Tim and Sid | Friedman Breaks Down NHL Free Agency
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2019
- Elliotte Friedman joins Tim and Sid to discuss the moves made during NHL free agency, including Sergei Bobrovsky to the Florida Panthers, Artemi Panarin to the New York Rangers and others.
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I like me some Elliot Friedman. The guy speaks some calm with his analysis. He brought a good dynamic to Tim and Sid. One of the best in the business
he started with them way back
Incredible interview. Great analysis, casual enough. The dynamic is great entertainment. Thank you, well done. Happy Canada Day gentlemen.
Lmao Friedge always looking like he came from the bar and enjoyed himself during happy hour
Saw him years ago when he was still working with The Score. Was eating chicken wings at a bar while waiting for his car to get serviced. Cool, and approachable guy.
Lmaooooo
What Elliotte said about the Jackets is spot-on.
They hadn't won a playoff series prior to this season, and needed to do something extra. I don't think they ever had the Cup in mind; they just wanted to win a playoff round or two, and make some noise. They did exactly that by sweeping Tampa, and putting up a good fight with the Bruins.
Jarmo easily could've said "nope" and traded Panarin + Bob at the deadline instead. He had every right to do so. He would've gotten something for nothing. Only issue is that if that happens - they're pretty much a guarantee to miss the playoffs, and Jarmo could've been out of a job. Now that we've seen the Metro get better this offseason, who knows if the Jackets will even make the playoffs next season, or the season after that.
Jarmo took a massive gamble - something any GM should do if they're in this situation. He might've lost 3 key players (Panarin, Bob, Duchene) when it's all said and done, but in my eyes he's a winner because he was willing to be gutsy.
Agreed 100%. Columbus pulled off the greatest upset in NHL history that absolutely no one saw coming. Tampa was essentially pencilled in to win the Cup, and they were embarrassed in historic fashion by the Jackets. Columbus was four goalposts away from forcing a Game 7 against the Bruins. Jarmo Kekkalainen may look like a loser today, but his fanbase shouldn't hate him. He gave that city something to cheer about for the first time in 20 years.
If you're a season ticket holder (or a prospective one) are you motivated to buy this year based on what happened last year or are you considering cancelling based on the lack of prospects this year's team has?
I have to think losing their best player, their starting star goalie, this year's first rounder, the player they got for that first rounder all outweigh the benefit of winning a round. I like the "no guts, no glory" attitude, but I always felt it was mistimed and I'm surprised he still has a job tbh.
@@rivahkillah If I was a season ticket holder I would still buy. Like Elliotte said in the video the fanbase was rewarded when Jarmo went all-in; he sent a strong message to fans essentially saying he's going to put them first. It's that kind of attitude that would make me feel confident in management despite losing key players this offseason.
Remember that the Jackets aren't completely depleted; they still have Dubois, Atkinson, Jenner, Jones and Werenski to build around. They signed Nyquist yesterday, and they might not be done just yet.
After seeing how excited Columbus has gotten excited about hockey after this season, I 100% agree with Friedman. It was a great move for the organization, even thought it didn'twin them the cup this year. Tim and Sid have always been against the Jackets so I'm glad Friedman went against them on this.
clearly you're not a columbus fan.
I mean they sold out a practice scrimmage
well it was crazy fun and entertaining for all the league (minus Tampa). now I don't think it was worth it, cause they lost all those great players for nothing and they have no picks so.. we will see how much time it takes them to get back on track, time will tell.
@@GSonDunn they also packed the Ice Haus for the development camp scrimmage. Columbus is becoming a hockey town.
Whether the trade deadline moves are a great thing depends on your perspective. I see it as foolhardy. It's like gambling a year's salary on a longshot horse. But we'll see, maybe the Jackets can be competitive quickly, but if they lose 40+ games for the next 3 or 4 years (which I think is likely), it is time to spend that season ticket money on something else.
I liked everything Elliotte Said about CBJ. It forever changed their franchise. Kind of reminds me of the 1988 New Jersey Devils
As a Diehard Jackets fan thank you Elliott for actually knowing something about our franchise, yeah it sucks to lose those guys but Columbus is an incredible city with great fans and this place was INSANE during the playoffs. No one is asking for Jarmo’s Job
Go Jackets
Elliott Friedman is someone who I think just keeps getting better.
*keeps getting higher (hence his name: fried
As a Jackets fan, being at the arena when we finished off Tampa, I wouldn't trade that feeling for anything. Having followed the Jackets since the beginning, it was the best feeling ever. So as Blue Jackets fans we need to be real, we knew today was gonna suck. But let’s look at the positives. We got a solid signing in Gustav Nyquist, we still have Korpi who has shown real promise, Elvis Merzlikens is supposedly a monster in net, we still have Foligno, Werenski, Jones, Savard, Murray, Atkinson, PLD, and Boone. We still have the winningest American coach in NHL history. A bunch of European players coming in like Garikov and Texier to name a couple. There was a lot of bad today but I truly don’t think this is gonna be as bad as people think. We also have a ton of cap space left
As a Columbus fan I am 100% behind Jarmo. He gave us something that i never thought I would ever have a chance to experience. Unfortunate luck on our end but we keep marching.
What Kekaleinen did at the trade deadline was applauded , people are hypocrites, besides they might be in a better position then most teams rebuilding/ retooling, if Korpisalo and Merzinklis start firing this team can compete for 7th or 8th
plus the D core is insane already. Texier looks promising and if Dubois takes the next step, cbj can be dangerous
Enjoy the time off with your family Elliotte. Thanks for a great season of reporting!
Friedman is right when he says CBJ played it right. They got Duchene and went all in. They swept the best team in the NHL. If the stars had aligned properly and they kept that magic going they win a cup. I honestly think the time off after the sweep hurt them rather than helped them. They were too good and had too much expectation going into that 2nd round.
Do Tim and Sid have a podcast? If not why not I want to have a podcast with questions like the one near the start of the vid “who is your biggest re-tweet” I would love to listen to a podcast where they just chat and mess around a bit.
Basically this but on tsn. Its called overdrive and they mostly talk about randoms things but throw in some sports talk. Probably heard of it before not a secret!
They used to have the best podcast ever with Tim and Sid Uncut, it got cancelled when they left the score.
Stfu
That CBJ series win over Tampa was epic. If they didn’t gain any fans after that, they should just move the team. As a Leafs fan , no sympathy for the lack of success. Waited 25 years for the Raps to win and the celebration was worth the wait
Crazy day July 1st never disappoints! Happy with what the Bruins did grabbing some depth at a good price!
Gotta love Friedman! Always has some quality insight and opinions.
did they intentionally avoid talking about pavelski and the stars?
Where will Kawhi and Marner play next year?
Elliot: looks down at his phone...
Mad respect for Elliotte. Busts his ass all year and treats people right. Hockey's lucky to have him.
What wasn't mentioned about Columbus, and a huge part of the risk-reward at the trade deadline, is how improbable the 1st round sweep was against an other-worldly Lightning squad
Winning the round was improbable, let alone the sweep.
That sweep is now apart of franchise lore
They had Tampa's cup winning coach and the top Cup year forward St. Louis helping coach their players. I'd say that helped their team sweep. Tampa had no adversity all year, besides having our top two D men out for the first round of the playoffs. It still hurts in Tampa, believe me...
Haven't listened to it yet, already liked it, because, shorts and T-shirt and sandals. Reeelax.
I was surprised he never mentioned any of the Stars moves which was one of if not the biggest of the day.
Friedz is by far the greatest hockey analyst in the business, bar none
It's very weird seeing Elliot without a suit...
Friedge 'One guy can't change a game like in the NBA'
McDavid: 'Hold my beer'
b0ss Beer Reviews Edmonton is still terrible
As an Edmonton fan, gotta say Oilers are the worst team in the league. It’s like putting McDavid n Drai on a beer league team. Pitiful
Problem is, McD has delivered nothing really. Besides Talbot playing better than he will ever play again, he has delivered nothing.
Best player in the world right now, its not even close BUT hockey is a team game
Lmao, 13:30 the moment Sid realises he crunches too much
Does anyone know if he’s taking a break from 31 Thoughts too?
Where's Nashville?
I’m here, you can go now Elliotte
The boys from The Score all back together... goodtimes lol
My biggest re tweet was stone cold Steve Austin. No joke (because Elliot said cm punk) wrote a review of his DVD it’s still
Online wdvdnews and he retweeted it I was stunned no pun intended
"The Islanders had a certain magic last year ...". And then they ran into a certain Mrazek. And it all cascade-collapsed after that.
Mrazek had a great next round!
Agree with him on the Columbus thing. Sometime u just gotta take the risk, instead of sitting back and rebuilding for 20 straight years...
I would run from a CM Punk retweet lol
bro i know adderall when i see it my boy elliot is tweekin lol
#tweekinsince99
Columbus made great move. They weren’t even going to make the playoffs when they traded for Duchesne. Instead they when to second round, made playoff money, excited fans. They tried to go for it dammit. Now they lost the players but the team as more credibility to sign players and fans will buy season tickets because they are happy. That was the best move of the season other than Bennington.
Are you a CBJ fan? Because while I can half agree with this, the other half thinks that the pieces lost are a big deal and will lead to the team not even being playoff contenders this season, causing that excitement to completely dissipate.
rivahkillah they would have missed the playoffs next year because Panarin and Bobrovski had their mind set on leaving. Yes they will likely miss the playoffs (not by a lot) or maybe their playoff run will have inspired younger players. People buy season tickets based on the year before so it’ll be alright. Plus they might make a big move this summer. My only criticism is I thought they were going to try trading their players before July first for conditional picks. They could have tried that to get some picks this year.
if avs let rantanen go me as a avs fan will cry
I would say that any Jacket supporter who wants to abandon ship, I get it. It isn't just about the trade deadline fiasco. It is about almost 20 years of a generally failed franchise with no turning point in sight. Personally, I'll see how things stand next season and go from there.
Yep. I'm about there.
Come on seriously? This is a team that has to play the damn penguins every year. The lightning. Hockey is hard. JD did a good job there. Panarin wanted to play in New York.. It's happens. Duchene is overpaid and you
won't regret That one. Bob is badly overpaid..
That gm will get you guys back to success
@Seth Scholder This is going to sound strange but winning the Stanley Cup is too hard. It has to come every once in a while or anyone but a masochist or an idiot will see the futility of it. The Jackets came as close as they ever had in their 20 years, which was in reality not very close. And that effort may have cost them even respectability for years to come. I'm completely understanding to the Jacket fan who has decided to pull the plug.
@@threeofive9401 But why do you think the Blues fans and Raptors fans who were actually really there the whole time get to have this as a memory for life? All of the not winning is miserable until that moment you can look back on like it all made sense to stay with it. This is why people don't get the Giants fans who laugh at people who mock Eli Manning or say the giants are a joke. Those two championships stay there forever. Every single member of the 94 Rangers team is a God when they are shown in msg when they visit. Standing ovations. 20 years later
@Seth Scholder The Jackets may have the least amount of talent of any team in the league. They may have the fewest top prospects. Imagine how great it would be to win the Mega Millions jackpot. You would remember it your whole life. So do you routinely put in perhaps hundreds of your hard-earned dollars into buying lottery tickets? You do not because the chances of it paying off makes it a bad investment. Not coincidentally, that is also why the Jackets are not a preferred destination for the league's top free agents. Simply put: the Jackets are a bad bet whether you are a fan wanting that championship parade, or a player. It is too bad, I wish it weren't so, but that is the reality.
Friedge...right..#2 to the roof!!!!!!!!!
Everybody wants to be a leaf, nobody want to take a cut.
Everybody wants to be a Ranger and some are willing to take a "cut". The proof is that the New-York state is high on taxes but it doesn't matter. There is something about the Rangers and their power to attract big names. But now they have to win the Cup and the sooner the better.
what will the panthers do with spencer knight
Baked, It takes a goalie a while to develop. Give him 5 yrs and in 5 yrs, Bob doesn’t have a no trade clause anymore
Let him develop. he's gonna need 5 years or so. They rushed Markstrom years ago and ruined him. Bruins let Rask develop for years while Thomas played. Rask didn't become a starter til about 25 years old.
@@preythemouse i think hes ready in 2 years.
@@omgitsaidsyay hes ready in 2 mmw
C.M Punk sings with Blackhawks: 12 x 8. Bowman: "We expect an athlete with his pedigree will start as #1 Center or #1 D, which one? That's why we have training camp"
8:20 Panarin tied for 48th with 28 goals? lmao
Panarin's league ranks since coming to the NHL:
Points - 7th
Primary Points - 8th
5v5 Points - 5th
5v5 Primary Points - 4th
Since 1990-91, Artemi Panarin is one of only four NHL players who have tallied at least 74 points in each of their first four seasons in the league (along with Sergei Fedorov, Evgeni Malkin, and Alex Ovechkin).
@Sebastian Patriksson How was he ranked for assists? And assists means goals. I don't care who scores as a Rangers fan. Not to mention that there are plenty of studs in the pipeline to support Panarin in the coming years.Come back to us if Panarin sits on his contract. Then we'll talk. Let's go Rangers. We're back in the mix. Jeff Gorton did a wonderful job since he send the "letter" to the fans. This rebuild is one for the ages.
@@aryusure1943 I'm a Rangers fan too, we still got some work to do lol
@@theglitchedcontroller17 what do you have in mind
Has frieds underbite been working out
Is he wearing bowling shoes?
Wonder what kipper and doug maclean think about all this.
I know many Metro Division fans that would disagree with wanting the Rangers to be good. As a flyers fan I hope they dont win a single game this year.
Andrew Cicconi Here’s a unique situation where a Flyers and Penguins fan will be in total agreement! Pens won’t make the playoffs because Rutherford is a lousy GM!
@@tictok9972 rutherford got a steal on Kahun but yes the moves he is making now are kind of baffling. But every year I think you guys are finally going to stink you never do and that is why I'm saying now that you will still make the playoffs. probably 3rd in metro or wildcard
Back at ya. Nothing more amusing than the flyers yearly bed wetting and what the heck did you do with Kevin Hayes? You guys will absolutely become exhausted by his lack of physical play. He's like the biggest small finesse player ever. And yet you'll get glimpses of what he CAN do and it makes it worse.
@@SDSOne yeah not a big fan of that signing. Marcus Johanssen or Anders Lee seemed like better options for the same type of player.
@@andrewcicconi5703 Anders Lee is a better player for sure. Just by his impact on the Pp alone. But maybe he finds a way to get tougher with philly
all im saying is Ottawa won the trades with Columbus no doubt
Columbus is home of the football Buckeyes who are perennial winners. The Jackets winning one round in the playoffs was great... until they lost in the second round. At the time, there was some local support for the gamble Columbus took. I was not one of them. Now that the dust has settled, we'll see how much long-term damage was done and how big a mistake it was. But unless some talented prospects come out of the woodwork, it _was_ a mistake.
@@mikewalters3048 st Louis just won their first Cup ever. The Rangers have one Cup in 80 years. Toronto last won in who knows...the Islanders haven't won in almost 40 years... It's hard to win. Wasn't it nice to see the way they played the best team in the league? Wasn't there some thrill in that? Trust me now that they did that it's going to suck when they don't make the playoffs ever again
@Seth Scholder I have always said that there are a couple of different ways to look at these things. There isn't a wrong way. If you are a guy who goes to games with your pals, love the beer brats and popcorn, then winning the Cup doesn't too much matter. I have that perspective with a lot of things. On the other hand, if the objective is to win the Cup, and winning it is a big deal, then you don't want to _reduce_ your chances of winning it for the sake of modest, short-term success.
@@mikewalters3048it's not what I meant.... It's not black and white. All I mean is winning the trophy is difficult. Extremely. So for that team I don't think it's fair to try to predict what they could have done. No one knows who's going to win until they play. It happened with the Blues this year. I know no one wants to hear it but the Rangers played over 100 playoff games including a Final and a conf. Final. Everyone is so into Duchene and in the offseason he and Stepan both got traded, stepan played a seasons worth of playoff games more than Duchene. Those games all count.
Question.....does a RFA have the right to choose between the TWO offers, the one made by Montreal and almost certain match made by the hurricanes ?
There is some talk that he wants to play for the habs
U should start the aho talk with sating its 21M dollars in the 1st 12 months
Lets go Rangers Its been 25 years since the 1994 STANLEY CUP TROPHY.......New Yorkers are Impatient We Want it again!
Not a rangers fan (my best friend is, so I watch alot of their games). You guys def sped up the rebuild and made some good moves. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of for them is the amount of cap space used up for Panarin (granted hes a great player and probably worth it). After signing trouba, lemieux and the rest of their RFAs they'll be at the cap ceiling. That's the only thing I dont like about their current situation. However, if it gets Hank a cup in the next 3 years before Kappo and some of their other young guys need to have cap space cleared for their raises then it was all worth it for them.
Michael Mignone Gorton has been working magic he will trade and move around players to free up any space we need plus a lot of expensive unworthy contracts are expiring over the next few seasons for our young talent
#getbacktowork! fried-man
Last man standing friedman ,,,
Looks like Elliotte is ready to go on vacation.
Nothing on west coast teams like the Canucks? Oh right. TSN is the Toronto Sports Network and SN is owned by Rogers, as well. It's good to see them happy now that their Laffs are a decent team now. They've been miserable for over a decade with the exception of Ray Ferraro.
Yikes 🧂
Leafs free agent review
Kawhi will be a Laker I think!!
J O E P A V E L S K I
#Remember1967 lEAFS FANS ........
Savage under bite
I kinda hate that shirt. I kinda want that shirt
Why does Friedman sound like Jay Baurchel
are those pajamas?
I watched this to listen to hockey talk but everything was just compared to the NBA. You can't even compare NHL to NBA.
The Rangers are and always will be a bigger deal than the Nets
Lol imagine if the Sens hire Brian Burke as the President of Hockey Ops. Sens are basically a burkie team. Truculence and all. #PeskySens
Bobrovsky gets 10 mil lehner gets 5 mil. Hmmm
Sam bob is miles better lol
I’d much rather have lehner for 5 mil than Bobrovsky for 10 mil
How can he be miles better than a vezina finalist when he wasn’t even one?
Dah fuq shoes is Elliotte wearing xD
Isles are toast
Never realized how much of a underbite hes got
What the hell are the leafs doing? lol
Some good moves why?
AUSTON SPLATPOO no like i didn’t expect this many moves with some of these teams
Toronto can’t handle that
Barrie bud
Canucks are going to win the cup very soon.
Hope Aho stays in Carolina.
NES ADDICT hope he doesn’t
He left Carolina already.
Tristan Wright so Carolina cant match the offer, they don’t have enough mondy
@Chewy Ltd A team can go a max of 10% over the cap during the offseason, so Habs still have around $11.5 mil to work with, and at this point they wouldn't be interested in any UFA aside from Gardiner so there's no gamble on their end.
He will, don’t be ridiculous
What’s with the intro nobody gives a damn about elliots vacation they talk one minute about it
One minute? Wow! You in a hurry or something?
Hey Elliotte, stop texting while you're on SPORTSNET. It's rude and you're not that busy... it can wait
This show is cringe at its best