@@BensOutdoorBoys Have fun! You are making the right decisionwhen buying to new Yamaha YZ125’s. Best suspension and strong motor with carburetor and not FI shit. 😎👍 I’m so glad that Yamaha still make their 2024 YZ125’s equipped with carburetors and mechanical power valves. My son who is 13 years old now just started to ride KTM SX85 2022 big wheel version 19”/16”. I just told him that when he will move to 125’s when he gets taller/stronger/older we will get him YZ125 just because of the above mentioned reasons. I may even buy myself another one...I ride mostly my Husky TC250 2018 two stroke and it has still carburetor and mechanical power valve too. I have two classic restored old school two stroke 125’s too myself KX125 1992 and RM125 1992. Nice old bikes...Greetings from Finland! 🇫🇮
Been reading and watching Dirt Bike 125 shoutouts since I was a young teen in the early 70s. While far too old (and fat) to ride a 125 I still love to read about how far the bikes have come from the Suzuki TMs and Yamaha MXs of my youth.
Thanks for hanging with us. Unfortunatley right now there are only 4 available. TM, Fantic, Sherco etc would have been added if we could get our hands on em. Results really wouldn't have changed the order though
@MarcusSchumpert when I bought mine I was 230lbs I put a tsp high comp head and a few other goodies and now that I dropped 40lbs im telling you it feels faster then a 450😂😂😂
68 year old here. Only 125 that I ever had was a Hodaka. Went to bigger bikes after. Still ride an 02 KTM 520. Several years ago, I had a chance to ride a "modern" 125. Soooo much fun!!! And ya gotta love the sound!
I’ve been wondering since 2005 why I am just not as excited to ride motocross anymore, even tho I go to the track every weekend. This video showed me that I just miss 2 strokes plain and simple. 4 strokes just aren’t as fun to ride no matter what anyone says. Gonna go by a yz 125 tomorrow
Picked up my YZ125 about 2 weeks ago. Been on Husqvarna/KTM my whole life. Put a HGS exhaust system and an upgraded plug in Ignition on it. Doing just as good on the Yam, if not better. They’re a competitive bike once you get the jetting set up right! Love it ✊🏻
And Sherco, Take the lights off, change the primary gearing, stiffen shock and fork, expansion pipe and silencer upgrade, go race, Sherco won some MX racers a few years ago in Aus! 🤘
I started racing in about 2009 on 2007 yz125 after selling my 92 wr500. I felt I went heaps faster around track than on my 500 2stroke beast unless in straight lines. Since stopped I've had couple of ktm 300exc and currently on 18 husqvarna te300 which is last carburetor version before fuel injection. It is a weapon now but still feal I could rip around track and jump quicker on yz125. Nothing like rippin a whole shot and not even hearing gear changes because at perfect revs, then get nailed by pros on first corner as they hardly brake. Awesome fun.
My boys been riding a cr80, he’s physically too big for, I’m hesitant to move him to a 250 like all his buddies. I would much rather go with a 125 to advance his skills and confidence. We both love the 2 stoke action 👍 mixing gas and kicking ass all day
Sadly Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki have all abandoned the 125 2-strokes. Ya, Kawasaki still offers a KX100 (as far as I know) but it's not a 125. Either way, I'll be happy when I get my 1976 IT400 up and running. :)
Its hard to understand why honda, kawi. And Suzuki dont continue manufacturing their own 2 strokes without new development like yamaha does. They all produce big 4 strokes virtually unchanged since the 90s. The r&d and the tooling for the bikes has been paid for so even low volume sales would just be profit. Likewise, mx bikes dont have to be concerned about emissions like most models do.
Unless they can lobby to have professional racing rules changed reintroducing their old bikes is only going to cost them money and take away from the sales of what they already offer.
@@joevdenne1930 hey now I'm 44 and still love to moto and woods ride.... sometimes that lil button comes in handy... With that being said I also own a Suzuki rmz....lol
If you still have the 3 Austrian bikes, I think it would be interesting to send the ecu’s to different tuners to see if the bugs can be fixed with a tune. As well as get a little more power. Otherwise, good review. I started on a 2013 KTM 125 but maybe I should have went with the YZ instead as I could use the extra torque down low 😅.
I feel like a couple other smaller/major brands should be included too - such as TM Racing, the Italian?? Brand. I believe they still make 125 2t. As well as a few other brands but overall good video and good bike 👍
Thank you for watching. These are the bike available to us and the general public in the United States. The TM importer has gone back home so our access to those bike is very hard. We try to get as many as we can in the group as possible. In all honesty...the order still wouldn't be very different...just more bikes in the mix.
I do love the Austrian bikes, but now simplicity for me as a weekend warrior is all I care about so YZ for me. Add a GYTR kit for that thing and its rips! Carson Brown makes any bike look fast. So as a side note, there is big talk and more than rumor's that Formula 1 is considering a switch to two-stroke engines for 2025, according to the sport's chief technical officer, Pat Symonds. Also Two-stroke engines or motors running on hydrogen could be back in MotoGP by the middle of this decade if targets to make motorsport more ...There is now talk of Hydrogen Hyrbid technology and the obvious one I have been saying or years is Synthetic fuels, this is something that could not only keep our current bikes relevant but also still manufactured but it is also relevant to what KTM have been doing with TPI and now TBI other Euro manufacturers have TBI or EFI options ready they just aren't in production as its not required as yet, but not only can these be better for the sport again bringing back the sounds but they put out less emissions than current 4ts and have lower carbon footprint than 4t and EVs, this is huge and could be in force by 2026 MotoGP has been bought out and the new owners once they take over by end of 2024 have big plans from what I have seen, they want the riders to be focused with skill not the engineers F1 and MotogGP is so boring now its no longer about the racer its about the Engineers and frankly its been heading this way in Moto and SC, with bikes being too big for SX tracks power wise, its just wick the throttle, speeds are too high and the racing while good isn't as good broad as it was in the 2t era, because the bikes required more skill to ride, I'm not talking about whipping, scrubbing skills, I'm talking lines shifting, throttle race craft, the best riders will still be the best, they adapt but this is exciting and if it happens could change the sport massively and take it to a new level in professional sport, 3 class's again would be awesome outdoors and Id love to see 1 class indoors, with a futures class as development not a second premier class, that way the best race the best on 250s as it should be in SX.
You’re probably right. seeing how they preform on my local track, 125s from 2015 can easily hang with the newer bikes up our longest and steepest uphills.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why in the world a person would want an e start on a 125 mx bike..... it literally makes no sense.. my grandma could kick one over
I get it, but as a trail rider, if you stall on a hill or an awkward area, that button does make life nice, definitely don’t need it on the track, but I still like it
Not tryin to be mean but I didn't get into the sport to make life nice. If you know you'll be kickin this bitch on the side of a cliff if u stall it, that will make you try that much harder and you'll become a better rider... or just give it the old college try and then hit the button lol.
I'm 44 and I still love to moto... but it's no secret as I get older my body is just weaker, especially in the final laps... Having a button to push if I crash or stall my bike wouldn't be a bad thing sometimes...lol With that being said I ride a Suzuki rmz....lmao
Do a bonus 250 2 stroke shootout where you have the 07s kawasaki, Suzuki and honda vs the ”new” yamaha, ktm, Husqvarna and gasgas. Collab with Greg hitchko.
Having ridden these bikes now. I would say the review is pretty accurate from a rating perspective in my opinion as well. I think the 125’s and TBI are not well matched and take away from the allure of the 125 feel and power band. The KTM air fork is also still and likely will always never touch the performance of a KYB. Overall, new tech on these bikes is going to continue to be a work in progress, but the edge is still for sure going to the YZ125 package.
You cant really say it hasn't changed in 20 years. Yamaha redid the whole engine and carb a few years ago. It was aweful. Im glad to see they worked out the bugs.
Can anyone explain to me the logic of KTM to have 3 "diff brands" of the same freaking bike? Will Spaniards only buy GasGas? Swedes only Husky? Jerries only KTM? I really do not understand the logic in the KTM board room. It makes zero sense unless there are some market dynamic in Western/Northern Europe that I fail to recognize. It would be cooler if they offered diff colors and graphic schemes of the same bike. Is this just a hella expensive approach of doing just that? IDK. Someone help me out, I'm not very bright
The KTM board isn’t very bright either. It’s thinking like this that has led them into the massive financial problem they are in right now. Why market one brand of the same bike, when you can market three and compete against each other for sales. 🤦♂️
even though i you guys say the yz is better i think im still going to buy the sx just because right now i ride a 2022 yz and feel like i need a change. And i think i will have more fun with the electronics than just the standard yz. Im also still a c-class rider so i dont think the little boost in power will do me anything
What a joke 😂. 3 KTM s and a Yamaha. What about Beta 125 , TM 125 , Fantic 125 , Sherco 125 . Americans are so Biased. Obviously Dirtbike magazine is crept into KTMs assss
This situation with the Austrian bikes going backwards is totally predictable for anyone who has been around KTM long term. Sadly, KTM has a deserved reputation for introducing new tech without adequate development. I’ve been riding KTM for 25 years but have also owned a Yamaha YZ125 and a Honda CR125. But give KTM, and the after market, another year for development and then nothing will be able to match it.
@@DirtBikeMagazine Well, in my opinion, if the differences between them are significant enough for you to consider them not the same bike; if for instance, you tuned your personal bike (for sake of argument let's just say it's a Honda) by revalving the suspension, putting new plastics on it with your own graphics kit, rejet carb and or tune the ECU, and make changes to or replace the factory air box with an aftermarket unit.... is it not a Honda anymore?
Last year the YZ125 placed 4th now suddenly with no changes from last year it’s 1st? None of the brands really made changes. Last years shootout you guy said the YZ was underpowered despite Yamahas upgrades, now it’s the hardest hitting? I always enjoy a Dirt Bike Magazine video but these shootouts are becoming pointless
@@DirtBikeMagazineat 4:56 ,”most of the issues that surfaced in 2023 are still with us across all three lines” Nothing notably worth anything has been changed to majorly increase performance. Lets say the bikes were changed for the better, still doesn’t explain why the unchanged YAMAHA wins. I don’t mean to be that guy starting something in the comments. Just find bouncing from one extreme to the other disappointing.
Dirtbike magazine didn't do a 125 shootout last year, motocross magazine did. Also, I feel like motocross magazine didn't even ride the ktm and husky because they claimed it had 37hp when they have 31hp now, and they were talking about how fast and powerful they were which is absolute bs, I own a 23 125sx and it is slow as a snail comared to the yz125's. Last year's ktm/husky are the same as this year's ktm/husky. Motocross magazine got paid off or something haha
Hate to say this, but buying a KTM is the equivalent of making a major change to your dirt bike the night before the race. It's a risky move that could backfire on you.
Who could rationalize buying anything other than the Yamaha with most power, best suspension, great handling, known great reliability and lowest price? What am I missing?
Tudo Bem sanduíche tudo o mesmo motor igual só que carburador é melhor arrefecer mais depressa espetacular linda injecção é bom fazem daz duas maneiras ók ❤
Maybe...maybe not. Diff air box and suspension settings might have changed results. Not just the carb but diff frame , bars, suspension settings, and air box
Sorry you are upset. We shot all 4 bikes , a vlog, and the main shootout all in one day. Maybe some things fall through the cracks. But please tell us more =)
@@DirtBikeMagazineKeep watching it over and over, the YZ is faster now because the Gas Gas got slower? We all know the YZ is the same as last year. And the KTM didn't stay in second even though the Husky and KTM are the same bikes as last year. The Husky came second this year because it had the same seat height as last year Can't wait till next years shootout 😂
So pumped to see the YZ still going after all these years.
Chill breh
My son and I are going to buy 2 new Yz125’s and ride together! I’ve been waiting for this moment forever 😂🎉🎉 thanks for the video 😎
Have fun! Thats awesome to hear! Thanks!
Get the fuel injected!
@@SourCrouter definitely would be nice but I’m a Yamaha man 😀
@@BensOutdoorBoys Have fun! You are making the right decisionwhen buying to new Yamaha YZ125’s. Best suspension and strong motor with carburetor and not FI shit. 😎👍 I’m so glad that Yamaha still make their 2024 YZ125’s equipped with carburetors and mechanical power valves. My son who is 13 years old now just started to ride KTM SX85 2022 big wheel version 19”/16”. I just told him that when he will move to 125’s when he gets taller/stronger/older we will get him YZ125 just because of the above mentioned reasons. I may even buy myself another one...I ride mostly my Husky TC250 2018 two stroke and it has still carburetor and mechanical power valve too. I have two classic restored old school two stroke 125’s too myself KX125 1992 and RM125 1992. Nice old bikes...Greetings from Finland! 🇫🇮
Kick ass haha!
I could listen to those bikes all day!
😎 THANKS FOR KEEPING 2T ALIVE 👍
Been reading and watching Dirt Bike 125 shoutouts since I was a young teen in the early 70s. While far too old (and fat) to ride a 125 I still love to read about how far the bikes have come from the Suzuki TMs and Yamaha MXs of my youth.
Thanks for hanging with us. Unfortunatley right now there are only 4 available. TM, Fantic, Sherco etc would have been added if we could get our hands on em. Results really wouldn't have changed the order though
I’m 215lbs and 54. I still ride the GasGas 125
@@MarcusSchumpert Great stuff, keep it up. I’m 65 and more than a few pounds up on that weight😀
@MarcusSchumpert when I bought mine I was 230lbs I put a tsp high comp head and a few other goodies and now that I dropped 40lbs im telling you it feels faster then a 450😂😂😂
68 year old here.
Only 125 that I ever had was a Hodaka.
Went to bigger bikes after.
Still ride an 02 KTM 520.
Several years ago, I had a chance to ride a "modern" 125.
Soooo much fun!!!
And ya gotta love the sound!
I can feel the excitement in your voice!....
I’ve been wondering since 2005 why I am just not as excited to ride motocross anymore, even tho I go to the track every weekend. This video showed me that I just miss 2 strokes plain and simple. 4 strokes just aren’t as fun to ride no matter what anyone says. Gonna go by a yz 125 tomorrow
Selling my KTM 350sfx to buy a YZ125 too. Love them!
Picked up my YZ125 about 2 weeks ago. Been on Husqvarna/KTM my whole life. Put a HGS exhaust system and an upgraded plug in Ignition on it. Doing just as good on the Yam, if not better. They’re a competitive bike once you get the jetting set up right! Love it ✊🏻
Sounds great!
Looking fast on it aswell lol
I'm rebuilding a 1990 YZ125 from scratch....expensive but fun, and I cant wait to ride it!
Yz125 legend
So basically, KTM vs KTM vs KTM vs Yamaha.
And Yamaha wins lol
KTM vs Luxury KTM vs Tuned Old KTM vs Yamaha
Dfhdgdfegdfgrefegs💐❤️🩹
gas gas tuned ktm? @@nathanroberts8777
Wrong lol
Beta needs to dig into their parts bin and bring a 125 RX to market.
And Sherco, Take the lights off, change the primary gearing, stiffen shock and fork, expansion pipe and silencer upgrade, go race, Sherco won some MX racers a few years ago in Aus! 🤘
I started racing in about 2009 on 2007 yz125 after selling my 92 wr500. I felt I went heaps faster around track than on my 500 2stroke beast unless in straight lines. Since stopped I've had couple of ktm 300exc and currently on 18 husqvarna te300 which is last carburetor version before fuel injection. It is a weapon now but still feal I could rip around track and jump quicker on yz125. Nothing like rippin a whole shot and not even hearing gear changes because at perfect revs, then get nailed by pros on first corner as they hardly brake. Awesome fun.
That is because you never lost control on a 125 like on bigger bikes. The entering in corners is so fast.
I ride a 04 yz125 and it’s my favorite bike Iv ever owned. The 450 and 250 never leave the bike stands anymore
2004 has the slow engine,old steel frame and old open catridge fork!!
@@vwgtdturbono pretty sure it’s an aluminum frame
the raw sounds in this shootout make me feel happy :)
US TOO!
Yz getting the respect it deserves
My boys been riding a cr80, he’s physically too big for, I’m hesitant to move him to a 250 like all his buddies. I would much rather go with a 125 to advance his skills and confidence. We both love the 2 stoke action 👍 mixing gas and kicking ass all day
Yamaha is making bank on the YZ. They paid for the whole r&d 25 years ago and never changed. Too bad Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki gave up.
Did not predict the Yamaha to be in 1st place. Im no expert rider but im Yamaha guy. Definitely want to add a new yz125 to my collection
The EFI bikes have better low end than the older bikes though, good for trails if you do a mix of both.
2 strokes are sick! I wish they made a dual sport ( street legal) 2 stroke 250cc
Sadly Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki have all abandoned the 125 2-strokes. Ya, Kawasaki still offers a KX100 (as far as I know) but it's not a 125. Either way, I'll be happy when I get my 1976 IT400 up and running. :)
Love my YZ 💙
Crazy to call these bikes for beginners. Jeremy MC Grath still beats on his in races every year.
Its hard to understand why honda, kawi. And Suzuki dont continue manufacturing their own 2 strokes without new development like yamaha does.
They all produce big 4 strokes virtually unchanged since the 90s. The r&d and the tooling for the bikes has been paid for so even low volume sales would just be profit. Likewise, mx bikes dont have to be concerned about emissions like most models do.
Unless they can lobby to have professional racing rules changed reintroducing their old bikes is only going to cost them money and take away from the sales of what they already offer.
Killer bees 🐝 125 2 strokes sound awesome!!!!!!!
Agreed!
If there was ever a useless application of tech, it's electric start on a tiddler lol.
Seriously! If someone cannot kick start a 125 they should not riding a motocross bike.
I need to try starting my 23 with my hand 😅😂
Well that's not true if you're really short and can hardly get your leg high enough to kick it over.
@@joevdenne1930it's more to make it quicker to start when stalling during a race
@@joevdenne1930 hey now I'm 44 and still love to moto and woods ride.... sometimes that lil button comes in handy...
With that being said I also own a Suzuki rmz....lol
Yama Hammer time... you rock YZ
They are all great bikes. So hard to decide.
Brilliant video
So funny that the Husky beats the KTM this year with no change to the bikes, Flip a coin did ya 😂
We explain why. There are differences between the 3. Watch and listen again maybe?
@@DirtBikeMagazineSeat height? Like I said the bikes are the same as last year. You must've had shorter riders compared to last year 😂
😂😂 @@gregggiddens
Love Maxima Products !
Magnificent YZ still rules!
Thanks for watching!
loved my yz 125
Wish y’all could review the 125x and the 125xc!! I’m torn
which one is the best for switching from a 4T?
If you still have the 3 Austrian bikes, I think it would be interesting to send the ecu’s to different tuners to see if the bugs can be fixed with a tune. As well as get a little more power. Otherwise, good review. I started on a 2013 KTM 125 but maybe I should have went with the YZ instead as I could use the extra torque down low 😅.
Is that 910 Carson brown? Bad ass! Now I trust what they say
We saw the previews can’t wait for the full drop! Still love my 23 TC125 Heritage Edition! 🙏
Right on! Thanks for hanging with us!
better you sell this bike with fake engine and buy real mx yz 125
Thank you :)
Man, I wish Honda Kawasaki and Suzuki would still do 2 strokes.
Agreed. Parts are getting harder and harder to find for the old bikes too =/
What about a 250 enduro 2-stroke shootout, 40 years anniversary?
Beta,Sherco,Ktm,Rieju maybe throw in a Yz250x also.
It will be tough to choose between carb and EFI; They all seem tasty.
I feel like a couple other smaller/major brands should be included too - such as TM Racing, the Italian?? Brand. I believe they still make 125 2t. As well as a few other brands but overall good video and good bike 👍
Thank you for watching. These are the bike available to us and the general public in the United States. The TM importer has gone back home so our access to those bike is very hard. We try to get as many as we can in the group as possible. In all honesty...the order still wouldn't be very different...just more bikes in the mix.
2 stroke forever ❤
Great Vid !
Yamaha all day LESSS GOOOO!!!!😎
I do love the Austrian bikes, but now simplicity for me as a weekend warrior is all I care about so YZ for me. Add a GYTR kit for that thing and its rips!
Carson Brown makes any bike look fast.
So as a side note, there is big talk and more than rumor's that Formula 1 is considering a switch to two-stroke engines for 2025, according to the sport's chief technical officer, Pat Symonds.
Also Two-stroke engines or motors running on hydrogen could be back in MotoGP by the middle of this decade if targets to make motorsport more ...There is now talk of Hydrogen Hyrbid technology and the obvious one I have been saying or years is Synthetic fuels, this is something that could not only keep our current bikes relevant but also still manufactured but it is also relevant to what KTM have been doing with TPI and now TBI other Euro manufacturers have TBI or EFI options ready they just aren't in production as its not required as yet, but not only can these be better for the sport again bringing back the sounds but they put out less emissions than current 4ts and have lower carbon footprint than 4t and EVs, this is huge and could be in force by 2026 MotoGP has been bought out and the new owners once they take over by end of 2024 have big plans from what I have seen, they want the riders to be focused with skill not the engineers F1 and MotogGP is so boring now its no longer about the racer its about the Engineers and frankly its been heading this way in Moto and SC, with bikes being too big for SX tracks power wise, its just wick the throttle, speeds are too high and the racing while good isn't as good broad as it was in the 2t era, because the bikes required more skill to ride, I'm not talking about whipping, scrubbing skills, I'm talking lines shifting, throttle race craft, the best riders will still be the best, they adapt but this is exciting and if it happens could change the sport massively and take it to a new level in professional sport, 3 class's again would be awesome outdoors and Id love to see 1 class indoors, with a futures class as development not a second premier class, that way the best race the best on 250s as it should be in SX.
Put that crack pipe down lol
Excellent!
Many thanks!
What a pleasant surprise….go yz
Damn would be nice to see a Sherco , Beta , TM 125 since they still make modern two strokes😢
My 05 KX125 will easily keep up with these new bikes!
Lol
You’re probably right. seeing how they preform on my local track, 125s from 2015 can easily hang with the newer bikes up our longest and steepest uphills.
You guys should do one of these on 85cc
sounds like blowflies . i should buy a 50th anniversary edition YZ as I had one 50 years ago. But at 67 I think i will stick to my ts 185
music in my ears
Where's the Beta 125?
When xc 300 & xc 350 shootouts?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why in the world a person would want an e start on a 125 mx bike..... it literally makes no sense.. my grandma could kick one over
I get it, but as a trail rider, if you stall on a hill or an awkward area, that button does make life nice, definitely don’t need it on the track, but I still like it
Not tryin to be mean but I didn't get into the sport to make life nice. If you know you'll be kickin this bitch on the side of a cliff if u stall it, that will make you try that much harder and you'll become a better rider... or just give it the old college try and then hit the button lol.
I'm 44 and I still love to moto... but it's no secret as I get older my body is just weaker, especially in the final laps... Having a button to push if I crash or stall my bike wouldn't be a bad thing sometimes...lol
With that being said I ride a Suzuki rmz....lmao
Can you even buy a two stroke anything in 2024 California? What happened to superhunk?
Do a bonus 250 2 stroke shootout where you have the 07s kawasaki, Suzuki and honda vs the ”new” yamaha, ktm, Husqvarna and gasgas. Collab with Greg hitchko.
Ps amazing video im getting one of these from sam oates bideford and demi the dog
22’ KTM 125 is still king
no tm?
No TM importer in US for us to get one
No Fantic xx125?
You can't buy that in the United States
Having ridden these bikes now. I would say the review is pretty accurate from a rating perspective in my opinion as well. I think the 125’s and TBI are not well matched and take away from the allure of the 125 feel and power band. The KTM air fork is also still and likely will always never touch the performance of a KYB. Overall, new tech on these bikes is going to continue to be a work in progress, but the edge is still for sure going to the YZ125 package.
You cant really say it hasn't changed in 20 years. Yamaha redid the whole engine and carb a few years ago. It was aweful. Im glad to see they worked out the bugs.
Can anyone explain to me the logic of KTM to have 3 "diff brands" of the same freaking bike? Will Spaniards only buy GasGas? Swedes only Husky? Jerries only KTM? I really do not understand the logic in the KTM board room. It makes zero sense unless there are some market dynamic in Western/Northern Europe that I fail to recognize. It would be cooler if they offered diff colors and graphic schemes of the same bike. Is this just a hella expensive approach of doing just that? IDK. Someone help me out, I'm not very bright
The KTM board isn’t very bright either. It’s thinking like this that has led them into the massive financial problem they are in right now. Why market one brand of the same bike, when you can market three and compete against each other for sales. 🤦♂️
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for watching!
even though i you guys say the yz is better i think im still going to buy the sx just because right now i ride a 2022 yz and feel like i need a change. And i think i will have more fun with the electronics than just the standard yz. Im also still a c-class rider so i dont think the little boost in power will do me anything
What a joke 😂. 3 KTM s and a Yamaha. What about Beta 125 , TM 125 , Fantic 125 , Sherco 125 . Americans are so Biased. Obviously Dirtbike magazine is crept into KTMs assss
I could watch these guys rip all day long.
So fun to watch all these pro guys ride!
This situation with the Austrian bikes going backwards is totally predictable for anyone who has been around KTM long term. Sadly, KTM has a deserved reputation for introducing new tech without adequate development. I’ve been riding KTM for 25 years but have also owned a Yamaha YZ125 and a Honda CR125. But give KTM, and the after market, another year for development and then nothing will be able to match it.
It's funny that 3 of them are all KTM's.
We see a GASGAS , HUSQVARNA, and KTM. Diff suspension settings, air box, body work, components. But they are the same?
@@DirtBikeMagazine Well, in my opinion, if the differences between them are significant enough for you to consider them not the same bike; if for instance, you tuned your personal bike (for sake of argument let's just say it's a Honda) by revalving the suspension, putting new plastics on it with your own graphics kit, rejet carb and or tune the ECU, and make changes to or replace the factory air box with an aftermarket unit.... is it not a Honda anymore?
They are the same but different, essentially a Chevy, GMC and Buick...all of which are near identical.
Honda should bring back the. CR
Last year the YZ125 placed 4th now suddenly with no changes from last year it’s 1st? None of the brands really made changes. Last years shootout you guy said the YZ was underpowered despite Yamahas upgrades, now it’s the hardest hitting? I always enjoy a Dirt Bike Magazine video but these shootouts are becoming pointless
The bikes changed lol. Volume button up next time you watch it =)
The KTM a d Husqvarna haven't changed, the difference was the test riders must've been shorter this year 😂
@@DirtBikeMagazineat 4:56 ,”most of the issues that surfaced in 2023 are still with us across all three lines” Nothing notably worth anything has been changed to majorly increase performance. Lets say the bikes were changed for the better, still doesn’t explain why the unchanged YAMAHA wins. I don’t mean to be that guy starting something in the comments. Just find bouncing from one extreme to the other disappointing.
@@danebrownawell6063We get what you're saying, I guess they can't agree as it will look like the shootout was a waste of time
Dirtbike magazine didn't do a 125 shootout last year, motocross magazine did. Also, I feel like motocross magazine didn't even ride the ktm and husky because they claimed it had 37hp when they have 31hp now, and they were talking about how fast and powerful they were which is absolute bs, I own a 23 125sx and it is slow as a snail comared to the yz125's. Last year's ktm/husky are the same as this year's ktm/husky. Motocross magazine got paid off or something haha
A 125 does not need fuel injection and electric start lol I have a 23 KTM 125 and it feels so much more sluggish than the old carburetor models
its slower on the dyno as well
Hate to say this, but buying a KTM is the equivalent of making a major change to your dirt bike the night before the race. It's a risky move that could backfire on you.
Who could rationalize buying anything other than the Yamaha with most power, best suspension, great handling, known great reliability and lowest price? What am I missing?
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Yamaha reliability and value
250 two stroke shootout?
These bicycles are so expensive in my country that I have to pay half of my life's income to be able to buy one😢😢😢😢
Why would you need electric start for a 125 ?
You don't like it?
@DirtBikeMagazine Just more weight . A 125 doesnt need the extra pounds and is easy to kick..
Tudo Bem sanduíche tudo o mesmo motor igual só que carburador é melhor arrefecer mais depressa espetacular linda injecção é bom fazem daz duas maneiras ók ❤
cr 125 old school
No TM? No Beta? No Fantic? You only tested two bikes here.
Also, the pre-EFI and Estart euros would have all beat the YZ in this shootout.
They should have left the gas gas carbureted
Huska-warna 😂 it's Huusk-varna🇸🇪😀
Sorry you are upset
@@DirtBikeMagazine 😀👍
The best bike is a is a 2022 Austrian machine 😂
2023 mc125 gasgas, brembo parts and carb!
@@andrewpereira1117 yeah buddy...I wish I had bought one.
Universal Austrian Motorcycle vs. Yamaha
You mean chinese vs Japan
The way he said Husquarna 😂😂😂😂😂 HUSKA-WARNA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is a swedish company. Using the swedish pronunciation of the name would sound highly irregular in casual conversation.
nailed it
send us an audio clip of how you say it! We can't wait to hear how amazing it is!
@@DirtBikeMagazine dude, there is no need for all that shade, you were in the right. Wait like a couple minutes before you respond.
So last year gasgas with carburator should have won this year.. weird shootout
Maybe...maybe not. Diff air box and suspension settings might have changed results. Not just the carb but diff frame , bars, suspension settings, and air box
Were are suzuki and kawasaki
Interesting that the 125 TBI motors dont rip as hard as the 250/300 tbi’s.
RV still fast
Dude complains about the outdated gasgas models, but thinks the yamaha is great with just as old technology...
So basically KTM and Yamaha.. 😔 get the others back in board. 2 strokes are alive and well
We need a 250 f vs 250 t vid
How is it that such a big time magazine can put out such terrible first person riding video. That angle was horrific.
Sorry you are upset. We shot all 4 bikes , a vlog, and the main shootout all in one day. Maybe some things fall through the cracks. But please tell us more =)
Seems pointless. 3 bikes are the same and Yamaha hasn’t changed in years.
The point is that KTM has made a „massive improvement“ 😂 to the YZs performance
3 bikes are different. Maybe watch again?
@@DirtBikeMagazineKeep watching it over and over, the YZ is faster now because the Gas Gas got slower? We all know the YZ is the same as last year. And the KTM didn't stay in second even though the Husky and KTM are the same bikes as last year. The Husky came second this year because it had the same seat height as last year Can't wait till next years shootout 😂