It Took Sonic 2 Speedrunners 30 Years to Break The Game

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 210

  • @Abyssoft
    @Abyssoft  2 роки тому +44

    Huge thanks to Keeps for sponsoring the channel! Here’s the link if you want to check
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  • @Brown95P
    @Brown95P 2 роки тому +497

    I appreciate the use of debug mode to create playerless shots of the levels.

    • @AvsJoe
      @AvsJoe 2 роки тому +34

      Agreed, it reminded me of fun establishing shots in films, it adds flavour and personality to the introduction of a sequence or topic

    • @isocle
      @isocle 2 роки тому +21

      Agreed! It's a nice touch. I kept thinking that they were some wild warp tas gameplay though. Maybe having chapter text over it would be helpful 🙂

    • @Stwartistis
      @Stwartistis 2 роки тому +5

      You can do that in mania

    • @DR---
      @DR--- 2 роки тому +2

      I thought it was annoying.

  • @landkrabbis2718
    @landkrabbis2718 2 роки тому +141

    I love how the title makes you feel like its wierd to have an unbroken old game lol

    • @jozimastar95
      @jozimastar95 2 роки тому +16

      stuff without game engines are way to solid

  • @DBSMoonMaster
    @DBSMoonMaster 2 роки тому +55

    Poor tails, his only speedtech is death

  • @Null42x86
    @Null42x86 2 роки тому +43

    Sonic is going way faster than sega intended him to be

    • @vibinseal6416
      @vibinseal6416 2 роки тому +4

      He isn't only faster than the speed of sound he is faster than the poor eyesight of sega

  • @JoeyBaby69
    @JoeyBaby69 2 роки тому +63

    Was a pleasure to help out with this video!
    Sonic 2 is potentially hitting a new minute barrier soon (12:xx IGT) with all these RTA-Viable TAS strats.
    it's only a matter of time before that day comes. Just need most of these tricks strung together in one clean run.
    Great video Abyssoft!

    • @JustMenoYT
      @JustMenoYT 2 роки тому

      Nice

    • @mahadkhan5172
      @mahadkhan5172 2 роки тому

      wow a big pro

    • @JoshWiniberg
      @JoshWiniberg 10 місяців тому

      And only a year after this message was posted the sum of non-TAS IRs is already 11:59. Crazy to think how fast strats are developing for this game.

  • @shukterhousejive
    @shukterhousejive 2 роки тому +313

    "RAM Storage" might be the single worst speedrunning trick name, it's like calling your trick the "Button Push Method" or some equally redundant name

    • @eandis99
      @eandis99 2 роки тому +38

      its not a trick name its a technical term Lol

    • @jacobizhda2450
      @jacobizhda2450 2 роки тому +20

      RAM isn't storage. It's secondary memory. Things are copied from registers to RAM. Storage is tertiary memory, or ROM flash in this case.

    • @beesree39
      @beesree39 2 роки тому +19

      @@jacobizhda2450 it still stores

    • @luckyducky7819
      @luckyducky7819 2 роки тому +42

      ​@@jacobizhda2450 Ram is 100% a type of storage. Its so similar that you can use Hard Drives and SSDs as extra RAM.

    • @chrispo7610
      @chrispo7610 2 роки тому +17

      @@luckyducky7819 not actually how it works. Virtual RAM (the RAM on SSDs) is where the computer places memory in the RAM currently not in use when the RAM is full, in order to allocate space for needed data. When that data is needed it's moved back in but it is unusable while not in RAM

  • @SpringySpring04
    @SpringySpring04 2 роки тому +60

    It's amazing how people can break games with such crazy inputs on their controllers, I find it so shocking and awesome. Meanwhile I struggle for >30 minutes to do the rabbit-door glitch in Mario 64... I love speedrunning!!

  • @sumerhays
    @sumerhays 2 роки тому +31

    for my set up you have to press right after releasing the spindash before pressing left. this makes you "speed cap." in sonic 2 if you hold forward while rolling off of a ledge it slows you down, which is necessary here otherwise you fall through the floor. thanks so much for covering this abyssoft! a 30 year old game having so many discoveries in just the last 2 years is unheard of
    and there is more to come

  • @huds601
    @huds601 2 роки тому +42

    Really glad to see the Sonic 2 community, as well as Joey, eandis, Zax and Shore specifically getting the credit they deserve for such an incredible amount of progress made recently!

  • @BattleGh0stz
    @BattleGh0stz 2 роки тому +9

    Love this video, extremely well done and edited to extreme. (Also I like the syncing up at 8:16)

  • @StepBaum
    @StepBaum 2 роки тому +1

    The quality of your videoediting improved sooo much. Really good video :)

  • @JesusRobledo23
    @JesusRobledo23 2 роки тому +1

    I’m so glad I stumbled upon this channel I’ve been watching all your videos! Great job! 👏🏼

  • @FreddieFevens
    @FreddieFevens 2 роки тому +4

    Your video production is so damn good! Fantastic job!

  • @Bioburningk
    @Bioburningk 2 роки тому +7

    20 years to break it damn that shows how solid of a game sonic 2 is

  • @martymcfly88mph35
    @martymcfly88mph35 2 роки тому +2

    Yo you put out such good content homie. Every video is a banger

  • @matthewhoward8171
    @matthewhoward8171 2 роки тому +1

    i'm surprised you only have 53k subs with how many of your vids have gotten 100k+ more views. honestly ur one of few youtubers who i look forward to seeing new vids in my inbox from. keep up the awesome work dude

  • @boomermcboom8609
    @boomermcboom8609 2 роки тому +8

    a sunny Sunday, a new Abyssoft video, life's good

  • @NF_2066
    @NF_2066 2 роки тому +27

    Abyssoft collab with summoning salt

  • @PrincessYaura
    @PrincessYaura 2 роки тому +3

    Absolutely love your videos!!!!! Keep it up

  • @phillipcraig1120
    @phillipcraig1120 2 роки тому +2

    Sega: We have blast processing.
    Sonic: Hold my rings.

  • @kiersaltalt
    @kiersaltalt 2 роки тому +1

    "Eggman you may have pissed on the moon but I have broken into the matrix and become moon and will piss on you instead."- Sonic 6/9/69

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie 2 роки тому +9

    When I was 9 or 10, a sunday, I woke up at 6:00 and start playing Sonic 2. With some pause, mostly involving eating (breakfast, lunch, tea break), I was finally at flying Fortress at 18:00. With 83 lives and 9 continues. I finally beat the game after something like 10 hours of gameplay.

  • @Lady_Moonsong
    @Lady_Moonsong 2 роки тому +38

    Oh hey, it's that Sega video you promised me, and it didn't disappoint! I'm a huge Sonic fangirl 💖

  • @sSynclare
    @sSynclare 2 роки тому +4

    this was a treat to watch i forgot just how nostalgic this game is to me

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 2 роки тому +3

    0:47 Ah, the sonic we all know and love...

  • @jasongibson1225
    @jasongibson1225 2 роки тому +3

    Mashed doing a bit where tails is on an level with Sonic like he usually does, to see his buddy ol' pal suddenly get haunted, corrupted, and going through walls in strange and terrifying ways

  • @SampelMSM
    @SampelMSM 2 роки тому +3

    Man sonic really said "Gotta go fast"

  • @Nako3
    @Nako3 Рік тому

    This is one of the best 1372 videos I have ever seen!

  • @DrakodanSRL
    @DrakodanSRL 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video, thank you

  • @noblewine4976
    @noblewine4976 2 роки тому +1

    This is why I love gaming between the 80's & 90's.

  • @TrolleyMC
    @TrolleyMC 2 роки тому

    nice, can't wait for the Sonic 3 video

  • @ProjectRedfoot
    @ProjectRedfoot Рік тому

    That intro was just awesome

  • @dramallamaz
    @dramallamaz 2 роки тому +1

    Great video love all the technical aspects of speed running especially a game like Sonic! Would also love to learn what the intro song is! Tried looking it up but couldn't find it.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому

      The Kraken Rises by novadrome, alternatively my season 2 intro

    • @markmccall752
      @markmccall752 2 роки тому

      I looked it up and it doesn't seem to exist 😥

    • @dramallamaz
      @dramallamaz 2 роки тому

      @@markmccall752 took me forever to find but it's only found on their website under commissioned music.
      officialnovadrome.com/commissions

  • @noneofyourbusiness4133
    @noneofyourbusiness4133 2 роки тому

    0:07 **marketable plushie gaming** 😳😳

  • @innocenthedgehog8367
    @innocenthedgehog8367 2 роки тому +5

    Really happy to see the Sonic 2 community getting the showcase it deserves. Nothing against the Mario speedruns, but it's time the Sonic ones had the same attention.

  • @DoctorSwellman
    @DoctorSwellman 2 роки тому +10

    Sonic 2 speedruns are so cool. Glad to see you cover this 👌

    • @Lady_Moonsong
      @Lady_Moonsong 2 роки тому +3

      Oh hey you're my go-to JRPG channel o:

  • @j.s.8780
    @j.s.8780 Рік тому

    I love that Sonic looks PISSED whenever he isn't moving. Very thematic.👍

  • @nizeboigudboi1893
    @nizeboigudboi1893 2 роки тому +1

    16:21 why im always laughing when sonic suddenly glitches 😂😂

  • @camwyn256
    @camwyn256 2 роки тому +1

    I hope to see Lowbrow incorporate this into a skit

  • @JayJay-gh7or
    @JayJay-gh7or 2 роки тому +5

    Brilliant. Still to this day the best game ever made. I love seeing that people are still going hard body on this one. 11/10 would play again.

  • @darkmagician4697
    @darkmagician4697 2 роки тому +1

    Zips work like the clipping in the original Mario bros and happens do to the same thing.

  • @combineshowcases
    @combineshowcases 2 роки тому +1

    Finally, I learned how to do sv_cheats 1

  • @Water971
    @Water971 2 роки тому

    In sonic classic heroes wing fortress has a weird bug where you can clip through the fan as tails and discover an area

  • @ajtv_ag
    @ajtv_ag 2 роки тому

    That’s a real speed of sound

  • @TheMeditron
    @TheMeditron 2 роки тому

    Friend of summerhays, great to see him get a shoutout in one of your vids :)

  • @ElariaFlori
    @ElariaFlori 2 роки тому

    Could you give a link to the song used in the intro? I went to all of Novadrome's links, but couldn't find it.

  • @honord.1811
    @honord.1811 2 роки тому +2

    He doesn’t say “Gotta Go Fast!” for nothing.

  • @KloWnV
    @KloWnV 2 роки тому

    sonic using his speed from the boost games

  • @grimentity4959
    @grimentity4959 2 роки тому

    Tails: Sonic wtf are you doing?!?

  • @loser528
    @loser528 2 роки тому

    I remember accidently getting stuck in a wall in sonic 2 as a child and thothe it was the coolest shit ever

  • @takumifujiwara2073
    @takumifujiwara2073 2 роки тому

    the spin dash trick is also a thing in sonic generations

  • @slimgrim3607
    @slimgrim3607 2 роки тому +1

    its insane that the same year sonic 2 was broken was also the same year sonic 2 was released in theatres

  • @TheXenith
    @TheXenith Рік тому +1

    Speedrunners are just nightmares to SEGA

  • @somaricraftbros6283
    @somaricraftbros6283 2 роки тому +2

    Nut clip 😳

  • @TheMillardWoTT
    @TheMillardWoTT 2 роки тому

    I played so much of this game!

  • @MackenziiRivers
    @MackenziiRivers 2 роки тому +1

    idk why but seeing sonic becoming a glitchy mess at 0:44 made me burst out laughing

    • @KloWnV
      @KloWnV 2 роки тому

      man went so fast he broke the fabric of reality

  • @Lim95
    @Lim95 2 роки тому

    You could say they were… “Up 2 it”

  • @hiiiiiiii4969
    @hiiiiiiii4969 2 роки тому

    when sonic uses his actual speed

  • @cooltaylor1015
    @cooltaylor1015 2 роки тому

    Gotta go FAST!

  • @NeoJackBauer
    @NeoJackBauer 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video

  • @meme_master2019
    @meme_master2019 2 роки тому

    Sonic figures out how to go mach 10 and fucking exsplodes

  • @fireballferret8146
    @fireballferret8146 3 місяці тому

    Sonic 2, aww, that's... OH WAIT THAT IS THE ONE I GREW UP WITH!!!

  • @iTripleCrownedAmber
    @iTripleCrownedAmber 2 роки тому +1

    I pre order sonic origins just few more days untill its playable
    I wonder if i can do any of these wraps or zips on the ps4

  • @MINECRAFTERHARS
    @MINECRAFTERHARS 2 роки тому

    Sonic 2006: it took new players 30 secs to get gltiched

  • @panopticpunk
    @panopticpunk 2 роки тому +1

    It's amazing an entire speedrunning niche spawned from Sumerhays Nut. I'm impressed.
    Edit: I would try this, but i don't think i can master the "fast zip" method. I'd probably just brute force it.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 2 роки тому +1

      You should give it a go, you never know

  • @GreenTheGrape
    @GreenTheGrape Рік тому

    Lore accurate sonic speed

  • @DFloyd84
    @DFloyd84 2 роки тому +2

    That plush doll is a really good speedrunner!

  • @ninethetwotailedfox
    @ninethetwotailedfox 2 роки тому

    Sonic the Hedgehog, so fast he can break reality.

  • @2001DJ
    @2001DJ 2 роки тому +1

    Subbed

  • @an0therdimensi0n99
    @an0therdimensi0n99 2 роки тому +1

    as a part of gen x gamers, i appreciate the video and title.

  • @seba2366
    @seba2366 2 роки тому

    what's great about Sonic 2 Speedruns is that the timer literally stops while pausing so you can pause buffer as much as you want

  • @arcticcircle9178
    @arcticcircle9178 2 роки тому

    What's the song used at 14:30? ~Red

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому

      That's my season 1 intro by novadrome

  • @killthecat666
    @killthecat666 2 роки тому

    I need the intro song name plewae

  • @Rommythegeek
    @Rommythegeek 2 роки тому

    I’m kinda lost in the tas/old strats/new strats with all those tricks and techs, makes it hard to see what really improved in the RTA runs. Maybe you could’ve take a bit more time at the beginning to show what a run actually looks like before diving into tricks.
    But I don’t know better and I really enjoyed the video, so I’ll just watch it twice. Great content.

  • @kelly7997
    @kelly7997 Рік тому

    Gotta go fast

  • @ShignBright
    @ShignBright 2 роки тому +2

    When sonic goes too fast

  • @dr_tal
    @dr_tal 2 роки тому

    Is all the music by the same person on this video?or can we get a tracks used list?

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому +1

      It's all by novadrome

    • @dr_tal
      @dr_tal 2 роки тому

      @@Abyssoft snap wasn't expecting a reply that fast lol. Anyway to get a track list? The yt link in description is giving me issues when trying to open it in the app.

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому

      @@dr_tal he doesn't always upload the tracks he makes for me, his sound cloud or website are your best bets

    • @dr_tal
      @dr_tal 2 роки тому

      @@Abyssoft thanks I'll try there

  • @jagergerg9771
    @jagergerg9771 2 роки тому +3

    Cool video

  • @redstring1942
    @redstring1942 7 місяців тому

    I have accidentally done a screen warp before in this game but I didn’t say anything about it because I had no way to prove it

  • @MightyReeN
    @MightyReeN 2 роки тому +1

    Can you just like.. . Do a whole speedrun guide for the classic sonic games.
    I wanna speedrun s3&k bit can't find any really decent guides

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому +2

      Try joining the classic sonic discord linked on the speedrun. com page

  • @alcoyot
    @alcoyot Рік тому

    Nobody could have predicted speedrunning would have become such a legit subculture. But there’s something very fun and relaxing about it. And there will always need to be ways to bring fringe nerds together.

    • @turbo8628
      @turbo8628 Рік тому

      Disagree. Speedrunning has been around for decades. It has always been a niche. The internet allows people to find and connect with like-minded people.
      It didn't need predicting, it was inevitable... and it is still a niche.

  • @darisucc7749
    @darisucc7749 2 роки тому

    rosa jumpscare

  • @MitchPiotrowski
    @MitchPiotrowski 2 роки тому +1

    Gave this vid a like simply because of the messed up Sonic image.

  • @meepmeeepmeeeep
    @meepmeeepmeeeep Рік тому +1

    plushie speedrunner :0

  • @null_data
    @null_data 2 роки тому

    8:13 what song is this???

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому

      Anomalie by Novadrome, it's in his 2020 mix

  • @GreatGloves
    @GreatGloves 2 роки тому

    Greetings from Finland! Poika tuli kotiin🏆

  • @TehAwesomer
    @TehAwesomer 2 роки тому

    I watched this at 1.75x because I... gotta go fast.

  • @vibinseal6416
    @vibinseal6416 2 роки тому

    When Sonic has achieved noclip levels of speed:

    • @thelivingglitch307
      @thelivingglitch307 2 роки тому

      The price for quantum tunneling is that can't think about what you're doing.

    • @vibinseal6416
      @vibinseal6416 2 роки тому

      @@thelivingglitch307 Facts

  • @korpen2858
    @korpen2858 2 роки тому +2

    Damn, "if you're able to go past the left barrier you'll progress to the far right..." Powerfull.

  • @ben12355
    @ben12355 2 роки тому

    scor12e502c42550184.... yeah somethin is messed up with that score....

  • @SantosCastellanos-vr1by
    @SantosCastellanos-vr1by 4 місяці тому

    I thought it was sonic, 2 speedrunners

  • @padshardbank
    @padshardbank 2 роки тому

    This isn't the sonic I grew up playing!

  • @Thatonedrater
    @Thatonedrater 2 роки тому

    Couldn’t you just go debug and find the sign post and use that

  • @paninjin
    @paninjin 2 роки тому +1

    Is it just me or is "level/ screen WRAP" much less intuitive than if it were a "level/ screen WARP"
    Like what are we wrapping?!

    • @DaveMorley149
      @DaveMorley149 2 роки тому +5

      Co-ordinates are always assumed to be positive, so when you send Sonic past the left edge of the level, the level co-ordinate underflows from zero to a high positive value instead of becoming negative.
      To put it another way, it's like the level is wrapped around a cylinder, putting the end of the level right next to the start of the level.
      For levels that infinitely scroll vertically, like Metropolis Zone Acts 2 and 3, it's a similar concept, except it's the screen that's wrapped around the cylinder so the top and bottom are next to each other.

  • @TheT0nedude
    @TheT0nedude 2 роки тому

    Who were the 2 speed runners?

  • @RAMPKORV
    @RAMPKORV 2 роки тому +1

    NUT CLIP

  • @ph43draaa
    @ph43draaa 2 роки тому

    Actual content starts at 2:10

  • @timbomb374
    @timbomb374 2 роки тому

    Gotta go fast huh?

  • @Bladieblah
    @Bladieblah 2 роки тому +1

    If you took more time to explain how everything works this video would have been a lot more engaging. It's just too much information too quickly, by the time you're done explaining I've forgot half of what you said at the start. Having more visual graphs or text on screen to explain it could help. Summoning Salt does this really well, taking sometimes a bit too much time for my taste, but it does help with engagement I think.
    Love the content but I think if you take a bit more time for explaining tricks, and put effort into making your explanations easy to follow, catch on to you could do even better. Speaking a bit more slowly while explaining can also help

    • @Abyssoft
      @Abyssoft  2 роки тому

      Appreciate the feedback, I took the time at the beginning to explain the basic tricks since they're auxiliary to the skips being discussed later, there's not much else to explain about zips other than "clip into the wall and have force applied"
      Sonic tricks are more about what's going on under the hood than what you can see visually, so there's not much to be shown unfortunately.