The community is so creative and talented! I love this concept! I love these drawings! Gamefreak should definitely work together with the artists in the fanbase, be more present in the social media and closer to the community worldwide! It would be amazing if they worked these and so many others into 3D models to become official pokémon, and the most talented among us could even be selected and help make animated sprites of old and new pokémon. There's no excuse for the cut in the pokédex.
@@xavierperez6374 yea, don't hold your breath on that one. They like to make specific ones themselves. Plus they'd have to technically buy the rights to the drawings. But I doubt they want to spend the money.
Absolutely love the idea of past and future forms not only is it something new and unique but it ties in so well with the theme of the games and to be honest I truly hope this is what we will see in the games
Hisuian format are most likely getting retconned to "Ancient Forms". I think we'll get Ancient Johto, Unova, and Alola Starters exclusive to Scarlet, with Neo Sinnoh, Kalos, and, Galar starters exclusive to Violet.
Imagine if Ash’s Primeape transformed into that form. Although that would be too much for him. And my thoughts of him catching Skarmory, well he does catch bird Pokémon. Although maybe this one looks too much for him as well
I don’t think we’ll get these Neo and Proto forms after all we already have them…Mega evolved forms and Primal revised forms (aka Primal Groundon/Kyogre). Also I noticed there’s been a lot of talk about quantum crystals being involve in SV and I had to mention this. Did you ever notice that the Mega Evolution and Primal Reversion animation in past games have the Pokémon encased in crystal before being converted into their new forms; looks like they’re being placed in a quantum crystal.
If this is true .. this could explain Fuecoco's legs. Snakes are believed to have a common ancentor with four legged reptiles. Fuecoco being a "past" form.
I honestly thought earlier today that primeape in the past probably was part ground with dig, earthwuake and stomping tantrum. We ever had a vround fighting type? Any that neo remoraid and octillery is sick
a Proto Porygon wouldn't make sense tho as it was created/discovered sometime before pokemon Red/Green/Blue, though the concept is cool before the "oh you could catch them in Legends", yeah but only because they was sent there via time bubbles
I would love to see a neo Dragonite become fairy/dragon or water/dragon cause u can find Dratini in the water and for the fairy type cause Dragonite can be cute but it's badass in battle that'll be dope 🤔🤩🤩
I wonder how a fairy dragon would even work🤔? It would be pretty cool though. Based on what I know it would be weak to poison, steel, ice, and fairy. But dragon type moves wouldn't effect it at all.
@@Larka661 u do bring up a good point we did experienced it with mega altaira. maybe they can give it an new ability to cut down that steel or ice weakness like pure guard or something 🤔🤩🤩
Well if they are really keeping the concept of old fashion tradition and future living 🤔 then i can see them remaking Black and White, because of the whole truth and ide al. If the 3 typing gimmick is true than i can see Zekrom being Electric/Ice/ Dragon and Reshiram being Fire/Ice/Dragon 🤔
This was so cool dude! im a artist too and i tried my hand at my first proto form today proto Ditto! Bug Grass based on Fossil Amber from past times hopefully you would think it’s good.
I just finished saying on another UA-cam video Scarlett and Violet are gonna be decent games at best, leaving us missing more then we've gotten. The past and future gimmick is gonna come and be gone with having little to do but some involvement in the mythology of the two BOX LEGENDARIES, and then that's it. There will be nothing else involving past and future. I m sorry to say but that's just how I feel, its gonna kinda feel like mirror of X and Y I bet. If there is another eeveelotion, its just gonna be another reason why Game Freak thinks they're gonna be able to sell, a billion more games they put little effort into making, and they're right ! But if this is TRUE, about PROTO, and NEO Forms that you can maybe change into during battle, like Mega evolution... which was my first thought listening to this vids, so you probably wouldn't see proto/neo forms in first stage evolutions, like eevee, and Pichu, it would mostly just be final stages. Which to me sounds so unreal! I totally 100% recant my initial thoughts about this game. And I no longer feel like I'm preparing for let down. PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE ! Best thing I've heard all week, and watching this on a Sunday night !
may I correct you at the bit where you said “clefable is becoming an ultra beast that it always was” and then you mentioned it being from space or something, now this is a common misconception I see ALOT. The ultra beasts don’t come from space, they come from a different universe. Well maybe they do come from space but not the normal universes space I can’t remember it’s been a long time since SM/USUM
That’s fair. Imo, any Pokémon that doesn’t come from space COULD possibly be a UB with additional official lore. Like Pokémon like Starmie or Dialga could be retconned as a UB
Probably know this by now but Woobat and Swoobat are based on this creature in a book called 'After Man'. It's about how life evolved millions of years into the future. The nightstalker,a bat descendant,is flightless and uses its hands to walk;they WERE once used to support their ancestor's wings after all. The feet,meanwhile,were used to grab and helped secure prey
That would be a DOPE gimmick! Give me more Proto forms tho the franchise has already been on a "futuristic" trend on style. Tho maybe I just love dinos too much 😅
The Neo forms of Soowbat and Woobat are referencing The book After man. There are these bat creatures call Nightstalkers which are completely flightless, blind, walk on their hands, and use their feet for grabbing.
No if you study correctly Soo and Woo are ancient Blood gang fight challenge Calls and are thus forth references to said Reference..these Pokémon are Bloods..naturally opposed to the Crip Pokémon such as the blue squirtle or blue gyrados…
So do you guys think you’ll only get the neo forms in violet and the proto forms in scarlet? If so…I wanted scarlet but might switch to violet for the neo forms
The Neo Forms of Salamence and Metagross look like they are now Legendaries. Metagross, like DustyGogoat said in the video…looks like that Terminator, super computer gone rogue who tries to destroy humanity…and Salamence looks like the hero legendary who would save the day!
I mean, given that the Hisuian pokemon forms ARE CONFIRMED for Scarlet and Violet, this just HAS to be the gimmick it just lends further validity to it
Yooooo brooo has anyone wondered how they will implement BOTH professor In the ANIME??? AND at the least how these past and future forms of Pokemon will corelate in the anime will we have another insane anomaly like wormholes show up I'm curious to how they will explain something like this they did well making the gigantamax/dynamax phenomenon fit and be real in the show just time travel can be sensitive they should have just let ash grow up lmao for real tho
It really needs to stop this. One thing is regional forms but they are not evolutions or alternative forms like When you mega evolve or use Dynamax/gigantamax Pokémon. There never was, never will be a point in time when mega evolutions and dynamax/gigantamax features belong in Pokémon. It's stupid and out of place.
The design for Salamence makes me think that it gets rid of the Dragon typing to make it a pure Flying-type. Either that, or this form could just be a min-maxed version of current Salamence. Metagross is definitely Dark/Steel here.
Havent seen the video, but i can see the guys used art ive seen on Instagram from artists. This looks like the "proto and neo" form concept started by artists for an IDEA of what we can or hope to get in Scarlet and Violet. The dude's title is misleading.
My Neo Form wishlist: All Fossil Pokémon
Dusty have you seen khu's confirmation that Gogoat is back in SV
@@mikeolivetree_3151 I have ✨
If Genesect ends up on here I want to see his Primal Form
I would like to point out that Neo Garbodor has since been changed to steel/poison
@@marcusperkins1169 Seeing its primal form would be cool. It was supposedly strong before the cybernetic upgrades, IIRC.
Neo-Magnemite’s eyeball-pixel needs to bounce around its digital iris like a DVD screensaver. IT HAS TO, PLEASE
The community is so creative and talented!
I love this concept! I love these drawings!
Gamefreak should definitely work together with the artists in the fanbase, be more present in the social media and closer to the community worldwide! It would be amazing if they worked these and so many others into 3D models to become official pokémon, and the most talented among us could even be selected and help make animated sprites of old and new pokémon. There's no excuse for the cut in the pokédex.
True, the main problem is we won't get much info until August or September. I mean, at least reveal the starters final evolutions, at least!
Absolutely! Imagine an infinite number of fan made Pokémon becoming official Pokémon
Just amazing 🤩
@@xavierperez6374 yea, don't hold your breath on that one. They like to make specific ones themselves. Plus they'd have to technically buy the rights to the drawings. But I doubt they want to spend the money.
Absolutely love the idea of past and future forms not only is it something new and unique but it ties in so well with the theme of the games and to be honest I truly hope this is what we will see in the games
These leaks confirm that tho.
Hisuian format are most likely getting retconned to "Ancient Forms". I think we'll get Ancient Johto, Unova, and Alola Starters exclusive to Scarlet, with Neo Sinnoh, Kalos, and, Galar starters exclusive to Violet.
Don't forget neo kanto
You wish ! haha, that's funny. Good wish list, but also the funniest thing I've heard all day.
Would be pretty sick though, omg !
Imagine if Ash’s Primeape transformed into that form. Although that would be too much for him. And my thoughts of him catching Skarmory, well he does catch bird Pokémon. Although maybe this one looks too much for him as well
I have Skarmory
I don't think that ash will be in the new series... If his won the world championship
I don’t think we’ll get these Neo and Proto forms after all we already have them…Mega evolved forms and Primal revised forms (aka Primal Groundon/Kyogre).
Also I noticed there’s been a lot of talk about quantum crystals being involve in SV and I had to mention this. Did you ever notice that the Mega Evolution and Primal Reversion animation in past games have the Pokémon encased in crystal before being converted into their new forms; looks like they’re being placed in a quantum crystal.
neo clefable looks like it’ll be an awesome competitive pokemon with its steel typing.
That “Magnemite”, I honestly thought it was a new Rotom form.
If this is true .. this could explain Fuecoco's legs. Snakes are believed to have a common ancentor with four legged reptiles. Fuecoco being a "past" form.
I honestly thought earlier today that primeape in the past probably was part ground with dig, earthwuake and stomping tantrum. We ever had a vround fighting type? Any that neo remoraid and octillery is sick
My head cannon. You find a present day miridon/koridon and through your adventure you find a special game-exclusive stone to turn it into Miri/kori
Proto Nidoking and Nidoqueen would be poison/rock type.
a Proto Porygon wouldn't make sense tho as it was created/discovered sometime before pokemon Red/Green/Blue, though the concept is cool
before the "oh you could catch them in Legends", yeah but only because they was sent there via time bubbles
I think a could idea for Proto Forms would be restoring the fossil Pokémon back to their original forms when they still lived.
In the thumbnail, I saw a dragon evolution eevee and I freaked out
Magenmite is a futuristic computer that knows everything hints psychic
THE N IN MAGNEMITE SHOULD BE BEFORE BOTH E'S, NOT AFTER THE FIRST E!
Proto prygon is amazing love the concept soo much becoming a rock type is genius.
If this is real, I want to know if there will be a Proto Porygon2 and Proto PorygonZ.
@@MazoDragon I think that there would be new evolutions for it
@@shinyman250 That's a possibility.
Some serious amazing designs here! Crossing my fingers we get past and future forms
@@DustyGogoat I just hope Gen 1 and Gen 9 don't get the Pyroar's share of these new forms. Every gen needs at least one of them.
There is a future animal in a show called primeval, it was a walking bat the size of a human and it was a recurring problem
A wild Fidough appeared!
9:58 this is a reference to dougal dixon's ''after man''
M and J tv predicted sunflora getting a new form in his reaction to the second trailer
I would love to see a neo Dragonite become fairy/dragon or water/dragon cause u can find Dratini in the water and for the fairy type cause Dragonite can be cute but it's badass in battle that'll be dope 🤔🤩🤩
I wonder how a fairy dragon would even work🤔? It would be pretty cool though. Based on what I know it would be weak to poison, steel, ice, and fairy. But dragon type moves wouldn't effect it at all.
@@Larka661 u do bring up a good point we did experienced it with mega altaira. maybe they can give it an new ability to cut down that steel or ice weakness like pure guard or something 🤔🤩🤩
I liked proto forms that makes sense but no too sure about neo forms.
Kinda sad that the fans made better stuff than the actual company
Did not state the types so I'll state them here.
Metagross-Electric and Psychic
Salamence: Steel and Flying
Neo Garbodor looks like Poison/Steel
Well if they are really keeping the concept of old fashion tradition and future living 🤔 then i can see them remaking Black and White, because of the whole truth and ide al. If the 3 typing gimmick is true than i can see Zekrom being Electric/Ice/ Dragon and Reshiram being Fire/Ice/Dragon 🤔
Best time to give meganium extra design and fairy type
This was so cool dude! im a artist too and i tried my hand at my first proto form today proto Ditto! Bug Grass based on Fossil Amber from past times hopefully you would think it’s good.
I can definitely see that being a thing
Wait hold on… will proto voltorb zorua ect just be the hisuian variants?
I want a gimmick which applies in every Pokémon like dynamax
They should add 3 elementls charts
Cant wait for spamton neo
Proto porygon should have been a hisuian form for porygon
Are the neo forms real or fake? Someone please tell me.
I just finished saying on another UA-cam video
Scarlett and Violet are gonna be decent games at best, leaving us missing more then we've gotten. The past and future gimmick is gonna come and be gone with having little to do but some involvement in the mythology of the two BOX LEGENDARIES, and then that's it. There will be nothing else involving past and future. I m sorry to say but that's just how I feel, its gonna kinda feel like mirror of X and Y I bet. If there is another eeveelotion, its just gonna be another reason why Game Freak thinks they're gonna be able to sell, a billion more games they put little effort into making, and they're right !
But if this is TRUE, about PROTO, and NEO Forms that you can maybe change into during battle, like Mega evolution... which was my first thought listening to this vids, so you probably wouldn't see proto/neo forms in first stage evolutions, like eevee, and Pichu, it would mostly just be final stages. Which to me sounds so unreal! I totally 100% recant my initial thoughts about this game.
And I no longer feel like I'm preparing for let down. PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE ! Best thing I've heard all week, and watching this on a Sunday night !
Neo is cool but I think I’m gonna like the protos better
So will we see again the primal Groudon/Kyogre and Mega Rayquaza again?
please proto tyrantiar is a dragon that lost it wings and typing
The past and the future are together
may I correct you at the bit where you said “clefable is becoming an ultra beast that it always was” and then you mentioned it being from space or something, now this is a common misconception I see ALOT. The ultra beasts don’t come from space, they come from a different universe. Well maybe they do come from space but not the normal universes space I can’t remember it’s been a long time since SM/USUM
Pokémon nerd powers activated
That’s fair. Imo, any Pokémon that doesn’t come from space COULD possibly be a UB with additional official lore. Like Pokémon like Starmie or Dialga could be retconned as a UB
My form wishlist: jigglypuff
Proto or neo anything just give attention to my fav pokemon
*Neo Octillary*
*Electric/Psychic floating octopus*
Mommy, i don't want to be in the future anymore.
Malamar has a new rival
THE A IN OCTILLERY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A C!
Please please make this come out
Me from the future watching this 🥲
whats the future like? 🤓
I didn’t think u would respond- 💀
Can we please get proto Genesect?
you are awesome man !!! thank you...keep up the videos
I’d pay good money for Neo trubish
I am neo trubbish
Neo swoobat and woobats don't even look like bats anymore. 🤨 Proto Porygon looks like a kids toy.
Probably know this by now but Woobat and Swoobat are based on this creature in a book called 'After Man'. It's about how life evolved millions of years into the future. The nightstalker,a bat descendant,is flightless and uses its hands to walk;they WERE once used to support their ancestor's wings after all. The feet,meanwhile,were used to grab and helped secure prey
I was expecting primapee to look more like Spongebob BC 😂
THERE SHOULD BE 2 E'S IN PRIMEAPE!
@@Amelia4111 my bad! Good catch 😂
@@Amelia4111 fixed it 👌
These fan arts always look better than the actual designs
That would be a DOPE gimmick! Give me more Proto forms tho the franchise has already been on a "futuristic" trend on style. Tho maybe I just love dinos too much 😅
i love this pokemon vid
Thanks bro!
Are these Pokemon confirmed legit?
Unfortunately no! All the artists are linked in the description
@@DustyGogoat darn... That octillery looked awesome.😔
All of these fakomon lol
Why u lie
They are running out of ideas this isn't Pokemon no more It's Digimons
I want to see neo tyrantrum . And the bats look like the night stalker from afterman
The fan art fakes are better than the official game freak ones! It's amazing!
The Neo forms of Soowbat and Woobat are referencing The book After man. There are these bat creatures call Nightstalkers which are completely flightless, blind, walk on their hands, and use their feet for grabbing.
No if you study correctly Soo and Woo are ancient Blood gang fight challenge Calls and are thus forth references to said Reference..these Pokémon are Bloods..naturally opposed to the Crip Pokémon such as the blue squirtle or blue gyrados…
So do you guys think you’ll only get the neo forms in violet and the proto forms in scarlet? If so…I wanted scarlet but might switch to violet for the neo forms
The Neo Forms of Salamence and Metagross look like they are now Legendaries. Metagross, like DustyGogoat said in the video…looks like that Terminator, super computer gone rogue who tries to destroy humanity…and Salamence looks like the hero legendary who would save the day!
Great interpretation!
Total badass
Us primeape fans need some love, our boy hasn’t been around and he might not make the cut like in sword and shield 😭
I mean, given that the Hisuian pokemon forms ARE CONFIRMED for Scarlet and Violet, this just HAS to be the gimmick it just lends further validity to it
Yooooo brooo has anyone wondered how they will implement BOTH professor In the ANIME??? AND at the least how these past and future forms of Pokemon will corelate in the anime will we have another insane anomaly like wormholes show up I'm curious to how they will explain something like this they did well making the gigantamax/dynamax phenomenon fit and be real in the show just time travel can be sensitive they should have just let ash grow up lmao for real tho
This video sofar the best pokemon scarlet and violet video. That mankey im really looking forward to it... Ima name it CaveMon
After looking at these leaks, I want a refund for my pre order.
neo swoobat and woobat are Night stalkers from after man
Oh my god I love that octilery, it's one of my all time favorite pokemon. 😍
fake but cool
Wow I wasn’t expecting this but this is a good video and I agree I like this concept a lot better
Honestly, I wonder if the Pokemon franchise gets any "inspiration" from all the Pokemon fan art that people draw, and is all over the internet?🤔
Sunflora gives me the Pokestar Pokémon F-00 vibes, which should have been a real Pokémon.
It really needs to stop this. One thing is regional forms but they are not evolutions or alternative forms like When you mega evolve or use Dynamax/gigantamax Pokémon. There never was, never will be a point in time when mega evolutions and dynamax/gigantamax features belong in Pokémon. It's stupid and out of place.
The design for Salamence makes me think that it gets rid of the Dragon typing to make it a pure Flying-type. Either that, or this form could just be a min-maxed version of current Salamence.
Metagross is definitely Dark/Steel here.
Imagine Neo Mantyne basically a blackbird plane Water/Dark or Flying/Dark.
Terrakion rock/fighting from the sword of justice
Everyone remember this is click bait nothing has leaked this possible any where
So what are the actual differences beside the legendary and professors
mmm ima have to see what the primal grass types looks like the future pokemon kinda throwin me off a bit
I want a charzard form
I want a charzard form
Neo Octillery & Neo Golurk 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pokémon keeps introducing these gimmicks but they aren't brave enough to create a complete rpg
HOT TAKE 🥵
@@DustyGogoat super hot fire 🔥 😄
I would hope not on the ultra beasts. I hated those.
Proto magikarp would be cool
Looking forward for CaveMon
Love you Dusty Bro☮
damn youre cute
Arbok form too
GUNDAM GOLLURK
TIME EVOLUTION PAST OR FUTURE FORM OR REVERT TO PRESENT FORM EXPLAINS THE TYPE CHANGE
Stop typing in all caps!
8889
Magnemite kinda looks like one of those antenna things you use when you can't afford cable 🤣
This game better have 150 new pokemon, not including forms. Also better added beta pokemon in this game .
Great video. I love all of these ideas. Nice work by the artists, really creative.
Golurk is my fav though
but not real right?
Havent seen the video, but i can see the guys used art ive seen on Instagram from artists. This looks like the "proto and neo" form concept started by artists for an IDEA of what we can or hope to get in Scarlet and Violet. The dude's title is misleading.
I predigt a neo chatizard Form that looks like the arm of the dragon regi
THE G IN PREDICT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A C! AND THERE IS NO T IN CHARIZARD!
@@Amelia4111 im german as long people are able to understand im ok 👌
Did y’all call magnemite a flying TV?!!.. is this not a satellite?