It's the 078s (espresso focused burrs and more granular adjustment dial for dialing in espresso) vs the 078 (oriented for pour overs). There's pro's and cons. For the price the 078 or 078s gives you MUCH larger burrs quieter motor and some RPM control. 078s Popcorns at higher RPM but there's hopper mods available to fix that. Zerno Z1 had no popcorning but mine had retention in the chute which I think Zerno has now addressed / fixed. 078s Also has some chute retention for espresso but has a knocker for that. Lots of good burr options in 64mm for the Zerno Z1 and similar grinders, right now there's just the 078s stock burr but SSP should come out with some options and for pourovers I hear good things about the 078 burrs. I think the 078s burrs are mostly seasoned and the profile seems to be a nice compromise between traditional lower clarity higher body and high clarity higher acidity. Good smooth coffees with a little blending of flavours but not enough to feel like I'm missing out that much on flavour clarity. With Zerno I had the SSP MP burrs and original moonshine treated Mizen Omni burrs in there both those were pretty high clarity and sharper and less forgiving, but with the Updated Mizen omni burrs maybe they'd be a closer match. They're like cast / lab sweet burrs and they updated them to have more body / sweetness at the expense of a little clarity but modifying the finish on them.
@@BensCoffeeRants thank you for the response. I have been thinking about getting the Zerno lately but I’m very hesitant because of the sound of the electric motor which I despise. Unfortunately I had cancelled my 078s from the initial kickstarter as I had doubts about it but seems I had made the wrong choice. 🥲
@@utiuandy99 Sculptor is alright but don't beat yourself up about not getting it for the early bird pricing (You can still get one if you wanted). But DF83v and DF64 gen2 are great budget options too and Gevi Grindmaster is another option a lot of people don't seem to know of. Too many grinder choices these days it seems lol
@@BensCoffeeRants yes there are a ton of them. I currently have a Ceado E37S with some 3D printed mods for a slight tilt and a single dose antipopcorning funnel but I had such a hard time with the alignment of the top burr carrier. It was sooo bad. I have not tried the stock burrs as I got SSP SWEET LAB burrs right away and while I sometimes wonder what the stock burrs are like I have no intention of doing the alignment again for it and maybe another time for the SSP burrs if the shims fall out. I had gotten both at nice price but if I were to do it again I would have gotten something else for sure. Right now there are some Honne by Hedone grinders for sale with a very appealing price but I have 2 DF64 which I have been trying to sell for some time and I think I should not buy anything else before I get rid of them. Unfortunately I am very curious by nature and I always wonder what other grinders are like. Anyway thank you for the reply.
+1 for gease :D
What do you think of the 078? How does it compare to the Zerno?
It's the 078s (espresso focused burrs and more granular adjustment dial for dialing in espresso) vs the 078 (oriented for pour overs).
There's pro's and cons. For the price the 078 or 078s gives you MUCH larger burrs quieter motor and some RPM control. 078s Popcorns at higher RPM but there's hopper mods available to fix that. Zerno Z1 had no popcorning but mine had retention in the chute which I think Zerno has now addressed / fixed. 078s Also has some chute retention for espresso but has a knocker for that. Lots of good burr options in 64mm for the Zerno Z1 and similar grinders, right now there's just the 078s stock burr but SSP should come out with some options and for pourovers I hear good things about the 078 burrs. I think the 078s burrs are mostly seasoned and the profile seems to be a nice compromise between traditional lower clarity higher body and high clarity higher acidity. Good smooth coffees with a little blending of flavours but not enough to feel like I'm missing out that much on flavour clarity. With Zerno I had the SSP MP burrs and original moonshine treated Mizen Omni burrs in there both those were pretty high clarity and sharper and less forgiving, but with the Updated Mizen omni burrs maybe they'd be a closer match. They're like cast / lab sweet burrs and they updated them to have more body / sweetness at the expense of a little clarity but modifying the finish on them.
@@BensCoffeeRants thank you for the response. I have been thinking about getting the Zerno lately but I’m very hesitant because of the sound of the electric motor which I despise. Unfortunately I had cancelled my 078s from the initial kickstarter as I had doubts about it but seems I had made the wrong choice. 🥲
@@utiuandy99 Sculptor is alright but don't beat yourself up about not getting it for the early bird pricing (You can still get one if you wanted). But DF83v and DF64 gen2 are great budget options too and Gevi Grindmaster is another option a lot of people don't seem to know of. Too many grinder choices these days it seems lol
@@BensCoffeeRants yes there are a ton of them. I currently have a Ceado E37S with some 3D printed mods for a slight tilt and a single dose antipopcorning funnel but I had such a hard time with the alignment of the top burr carrier. It was sooo bad. I have not tried the stock burrs as I got SSP SWEET LAB burrs right away and while I sometimes wonder what the stock burrs are like I have no intention of doing the alignment again for it and maybe another time for the SSP burrs if the shims fall out. I had gotten both at nice price but if I were to do it again I would have gotten something else for sure.
Right now there are some Honne by Hedone grinders for sale with a very appealing price but I have 2 DF64 which I have been trying to sell for some time and I think I should not buy anything else before I get rid of them.
Unfortunately I am very curious by nature and I always wonder what other grinders are like.
Anyway thank you for the reply.