your indifference; giving them negative feedback; being outshined by someone else’s success; lack of praise for their achievements; confronting them about their insecurities; when you don’t meet their expectations; when they realize they can’t control you; when you challenge their opinion; when they lose special privileges; rejection
10 things that crush the narcissist's ego 1-your indifference. narcs thrive on attention. 2-giving them negative feedback. it threatens their inflated self image. 3-being outshined by someone's success. 4-giving lack of praise for minor things. they will feel upset about not being admired. 5-confronting a narcissist their insecurities. 6-when you don't meet their ever-changing expectations. 7-when they can't control or manipulate you. 8-when you challenge their authority and prove them wrong. 9-when they lose special privileges. 10-experiencing rejection or abandonment. cheers from southern ontario, canada 🍁
They aren't. There is a current epidemic of misdiagnosis. I guess if you want to make a valid claim of this one could point to social media/onlyfans creating it, though I'd say it's more economically driven and not a true representation of these individuals' character behind closed doors.
Nobody can ever meet a Narcissist expectations. My Mom is a psychopathic Narcissist and have done numerous illegal horrific things yet has never been caught for what she has done. It took me years to educate myself, have been in therapy on and off for years from all the abuse, learning about this, learning to cope with all the trauma and so forth. Thank you for your video. Educating myself has helped me so so much. I got so use to being blamed and abused I still catch myself blaming myself for my Mom’s behavior.
The Narcissist: 1) All I do is amazing, 2) My pain hurts more than others, 3) I deserve everything because I simply exist in my perfection/superior state, 4) I have the right to to feel down sometimes. I am human... A sad existence that affects negatively everyone around.
That just sounds like anyone. I don't understand? Shouldn't everybody feel that they are amazing and that their pain matters and they are important and to feel down sometimes. Are you just attacking everyone for not acting like machines who constantly serve others?
When I first met her she was continually ending things, any petty disagreement, we were over. All part of the manipulation until you agree they're always right. 🤯
@toysandmore1368 it's awful isn't it, but it does get easier. These people just use us, they never really love us. We're better off without them, cos you can guarantee they'll be tormenting the person who's currently trying to help them.
Excellent video! As a child I didn't like or understand my mother's silent treatments. Now that I know what she's doing, I consider her silent treatments a nice vacation from her usual baiting, manipulating and criticism. 😊
The reason that I've stayed in my " relationship " is largely because I'm elderly and alone apart from having some grown up grandsons living hundreds of miles away. I walked away from her emotional abuse numerous times but always returned partly for having still feelings for her, partly feeling sorry for her and partly hoping things could get better. We've only been back together a month but nothing really changes. I changed by stopping calling her out on her dismissive, devaluing ways. I haven't as yet walked away this time. Trying to resolve things by talking only created more problems. I was blamed for everything plus got the passive aggression/ silent treatment etc. Recently I looked after her house and dog while she went on holiday with her family. She left the house with no heating on and no basic provisions in the fridge so I went shopping for them and boiled kettles for hot water to do the dishes and wash . She never text or rang for 4 days even to say she'd arrived and on the 5th day rang asking why I hadn't replied to the text she says she sent on day 1 ( there was no text! ) plus she could have rung me anyway. She explained the gas fire is not working and where the emersion heater controls are ( buried under clutter in the cupboard) I said nothing. Then last week I helped get her garden nice spent days at various jobs and was allowed to even stop over ( she usually complains I wake too early as she's not a morning person) Her family can stay anytime and her elderly brother often stays in the spare ) Yesterday she said her sister and brother in law are visiting today but I'm not invited over, she said she'll see me tomorrow. I guess she wants to show off her nice garden and all the work SHE'S done. She really doesn't like them knowing I'm actually kind to her. I again said nothing critical . Normally I'd have told her exactly where to go and then spent another month or two apart . I'd decided to take the Attitude of " take what's best and ignore the rest" but the best is quite minimal and the rest is crushing my self esteem and dignity . Being Mr.nice guy isn't working. I partly don't even enjoy her company these days and am better off alone without the drama and mind games and constant jobs she needs doing and the rewards like being ignored. I'm a fit healthy 70 year old but my future seems to be as a handyman/ carer for someone who really has no genuine interest in me as a person. I need help or a good kick.
Move on bro ...30 years later n every morning I say thank you ...I am free ...I am myself again ...I love my life ...try it ...works wonders ...life is the miracle please do not throw it away waste it on a n ungrateful wife ...remove the title wife ...ask yourself ...do I like this person ...the answer is no ...I don't hang out with people I don't like ...so why you allowing a nasty piece of work.. wife ...to destroy you ...and you destroying yourself as well ...wake up bro ...life is too short ...this is no dress rehersal ..you only get one life ...here n now ...go for it ...the force is with you ...❤😊
Why are you doing this to yourself? I'm sorry if that comes across as harsh - Lord knows I've had some poor experiences with narcs and placed myself in situations that enabled their abuse and disrespect. But I believe that we can control our thoughts, emotions and actions - and once we're educated about narcissism, etc and know better, then we should do better. It sounds like you're already physically healthy and fit, and financially & logistically independent - you just need to work on being emotionally healthy and independent. Don't spend your sunset years suffering this abuse and breaking your own heart. The companionship this woman is offering isn't worth the price of admission. Good luck!
The other night me and my girlfriend were talking about a video I sent to her to try and “effectively communicate” The tone her voice during our conversation was getting elevated. I very calmly was telling her to “calm down” and “relax” when she went into a rage screaming at the top of her lungs that she’s calm and to stop saying her f*ucking name like that. I simply hung up the phone and blocked her. I will no longer be disrespected and have my concerns minimized all the while maximizing hers. I am done and I’m never calling her again. No contact
Sounds a bit like you were invalidating her. Telling someone to calm down or relax when they are upset rarely does that. It just comes off condescending
@@healing344 I understand how it can sound that way to you. My reasoning for telling her to calm down was not about invalidating her at all. Are conversation turning into triangulation like it always does. I’ll try to have a constructive conversation with her….No cursing. Calm tone, nothing insulting. Just simply trying to have a mature conversation and express my concerns. And before you know it. She’s pissed! And receives constructive criticism as an attack to her personally….smh. Before you know it, I’m apologizing.
@@chefscj3082 I stuck with a person like that. She arranged a brutal betrayal and discard for me as revenge and to try to take away my peace. That's how it ends if you stay - in some bad way. Don't look back.
1 - Your indifference 2 - Giving them negative feedback 3 - Being outshined by someone else’s success 4 - Lack of praise for their achievements 5 - Confronting them about their insecurities 6 - When you don’t meet their expectations 7 - When they realize they can’t control you 8 - When you challenge their opinion 9 - When they lose special privileges 10 - Rejection
29 years of chaos and 1 year of learning about why. All the pieces fell into place and I am now moving on. Your words here are perfect timing. Thank you.
Described my ex to a T. She displayed all 10. Set boundaries, protect your peace and if you share a child, block out any petty noise, be the best parent you can be by giving your child time and love. Cheers!
I have been in recovery for four-years. Your videos are valued and appreciated. Your reminders and insight help me keep a healthy perspective when I start doubting myself or my logic. Thank you.
Your videos have been invaluable to me. I've joined today. 62 years with a family covert narc. It has effected my life very much. I set up my boundaries thanks to you & others plus SW I am now so aware. Connecting the dots has enlightened me. Thanks so much.
Well I find them valuable. And I am sure many others find them valuable. Next time you call someone else's work "invaluable," think about this... my mother taught me that if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing at all.
I'm sorry to hear that you've endured this covert narcissist for 62 years. I can empathize with the negative impacts this has had on your life. Thankfully you are now aware and setting healthy boundaries!
i’m so glad those days are over . i so wish i had heard this stuff 40 years ago .. Lise , you are helping so many .. God Bless you Girl 👧🏻 you kids … listen to this Lady. (kids meaning 50 and younger )😎
Absolutely I wish I knew all this many many years ago when my ex-wife was given divorce papers she was an absolute shock the reason why she was so shocked was that I gave her three months to make an effort to fix the relationship she was on the phone screaming at me I had two more days that was how little that woman thought of me she was going to spend 10 minutes with me and that was it everything was going to be fine
And they will never get over anything because they can't internalize their emotions it could be 10 years ago but it happened yesterday for them they can never truly move on or grow from any experience imagine living in that frame of thought for the rest of your life no wonder they're so angry and so bitter and so miserable all the time
Very solid list. And I do want to add we have a responsibility to emphasize, in each video like this, single traits do not confirm someone is a narcissist. For instance, a lot of people have a hard time dealing with negative feedback or being confronted by indifference. People matter and need to feel loved. A core need. So a (few) isolated trait(s) like poorly dealing with indifference or negative feedback is not a confirmation someone is a narcissist. It's a combination of multiple behavioral traits and behaviors.
Miles... agreed and these traits need to be present over a long, long period of time. The behavior will also be illogical and the resulting emotional response is childish.
You go deeper here in a way that really resonates to answer why I am never getting fairness with others especially when I complain! Thank you for the insightful details that are necessary when dealing with narcissists in ways other than just leaving. You can't just leave every situation in life where narcs raise their ugly head.... and I don't intend to do that where they reside in institutional structures raising havoc.
When a broken/damaged/immature/abusive man is using a woman, he’ll show these signs: - he avoids truly deep and emotionally vulnerable conversations - he's inconsistent - he only contacts you when he needs/wants something - he doesn't REALLY include you in his life (it's all an illusion/fantasy) - he avoids commitments/labels - he makes you feel guilty/crazy/needy - he doesn't truly support you or your goals (in any real and tangible way) So, If he pulls away, give him a push... Let him go! When he pulls away, he can stay away, it is over! It is complete. 1) Never EVER be afraid of losing him. You are the Divine feminine. Let him fear losing YOU! 2) Have an EXTREMELY low tolerance for ANY bad behavior... AVOIDANT or NARCISSIST? Let's be real. It's irrelevant. They both behave the same. The damage they do is the same. The trauma they cause is the same. FUCK THEM BOTH. So, When there’s a disagreement, an argument, a conflict, some bullying, disrespect, boundaries being crossed etc... someone will inevitably, most likely, be disappointed in me... So, I engage in each and every situation in a way that ensures, that the person disappointed in me, NEVER ENDS UP BEING ME! I aim to never repress, never suppress. I aim to never lose parts of myself. Radical honesty only: 100% of the time. Always, all ways. AND REMEMBER: to test if ANY relationship is healthy - you've got to judge the relationship on its bad days, not on its good ones!
Excellent insight into how Narcs respond to threats to their ego. I'm in process of finally getting rid of my Narc after 34 years of emotional manipulation and torment. Thank you so much for your guidance.
Man the negative feedback thing is so true. No matter how much you sugar-coat something, they take it the wrong way and blow it way out of proportion. My ex asked me how a dress looked on her. She had gained some weight (I didn't care she was still beautiful to me) and the dress wasn't the most flattering. I knew how sensitive she was to her looks so I said, "that dress doesn't highlight your best qualities"... and I might as well had called her fat the way she blew up.
Absolutely. It baffles me when a cousin shared that her mom was so insecure and comparing when she shared the good fortune of our childhood neighbors when she visited. I was like, "no she doesn't?" They can hear good news from other people without comparing
The court system has to be changed to prevent these things happening especially with young innocent children. The abuser should be held accountable and actions taken.
Thank you for exposing my own narcissistic characteristics behaviours. In my own personal life I can easily recall being all these things at one time or another in my life. Trying hard to no longer blame everybody else for my problems and taking responsibility for my own actions. Truly life freeing! No longer a victim but a victor. Thanks again!😊
She makes many valid points. The problem is without a diagnosis from a licensed professional many that watch these types of shorts or videos qualify their significant other as one. Many times a narc is projecting and calling their spouse a narc jnstee re as of realizing that they are. The list in the video describes many normal things that are found and needed in a healthy relationship and some that are straight out emotional abuse. 1) the silent treatment = emotional abuse. Trying to crush someone’s ego would be reactive emotional abuse. A therapist wouldn’t advise against this, but instead would give alternatives to this in a healthy, productive manner. On the opposite end of the ego lies the spirit. A healthy spirit that receives the silent treatment is emotional abuse. IMO keeping a silent treatment to an ego or spirit is bad advice. 2) negative feedback - healthy Relationships need this kind of discussion given in a healthy way. To believe that any negative feedback means that your significant other is a narcissist is misleading. How are you giving it? In a healthy way or an unhealthy way. There is a difference. 3) praised deprivation goes along with negative feedback or positive feedback both need to coexist in a healthy state in a healthy relationship. Healthy communication of needs and desires and expectations are key. 4) Needs, wants, desires and entitlements. One partner believes they need or want or desire may be considered an entitlement to the other if they are selfish. 5) draw a clear line between what is power and control vs.boundaries, balance and cooperation. There is so much of this type of “Narc Talk & Advice” being put on social media platforms that it is hard to determine what is what with each relationship. I see this as hurtful to society as it is helpful. Having your relationship evaluated and counseled by a licensed therapist where the couple can have proper diagnosis with therapy is paramount. Where many go to a channel like this and create more of a mess by having a do it yourself diagnoses and unguided therapy. PLEASE go to a therapist’s in person to discuss the state of your relationship. This type of “information”should be alarming to all therapist in the active professional field. It leaves so much to be misrepresented and misunderstood. Dr. Phil gives warnings to this type of self help and always urges those to seek out therapy from a licensed professional in person.
9:52 - Most important message right here. Even a narcissist is a human just like anyone else and doesn't deserve to be purposefully mistreated or manipulated. Thank you for saying this.
@toysandmore1368 I mean, isn't this entire channel already dedicated to helping those on the receiving end? The best advice from watching about a hundred of these is boundaries and learning to walk away.
I read your post, and you make a valid point. It's something that I didn't understand in the moment but now I do...wish I would of learned that sooner. Everyone deserves respect no matter how good or bad.
@@clintonnagy1662 I would say respect yourself first and foremost. And in the context of dealing with most everyone else plus potentially toxic individuals, it should be earned. What everyone deserves is decency.
I think this is my favourite video on the topic I’ve watched to date. It is so incredibly validating hearing all of the things that truly make my abuser mad and upset and spiral, and knowing that at every step of me reclaiming my space and boundaries and peace, I was taking the right actions to do right by me, and now I can revel in the satisfaction that it certainly upset them to their very core. So proud of staying strong and doing the work to heal. This makes me feel so empowered about my progress, instead of scared of whether or not they will try to come back.
6:58 Exacrly this - don’t give in! My ex was a narcissist, and she always expected me to comply by being “gentle” when we argue and to never talk back at her and just let her vent/be angry and throw tantrums without saying anything. Eventually, I pushed back, and outright refused to be “gentle”. A few weeks passed, and the discard eventually happened. And to be honest, it feels so liberating! Good riddance!! 👋
The negativity when you're alone is so draining. Then, when they get out in public they are charismatic which makes you feel like they despise you. I will say, i never gave silent treatment in previous relationships but when youre nade ro feel like your feelings dont matter...you begin to shutdown especially when they stonewall you in disagreements. So if you experience some of these 10 things...just know, its not you amd you are not a narcissist. I remember watching videos after the discard and i was like omg, im the narc which is what she was accusing me of being
I lived all of this 100%. I wish I knew/understood these things before I entered, or while I was in my last relationship. I spent months trying to be patient and understanding. Looking for a successful path to navigate the relationship. On a positive note. I did survive, and managed to remove myself from a horrible situation. I gained a better understanding of other people, situations, and relationships throughout my personal and professional life. So maybe I needed this lesson. Dear lord, I hope I've learned what I needed to, so the universe won't send me there again ahaha... Seriously, I think I'm a little wiser, and will be better at respecting the red flags and sidestepping something like this going forward. I hope my ex finds peace. But it's her journey, and her responsibility. I'm talking care of me... 🙏
This was really helpful. Thank you for the disclaimer at the end. I feel like it's easy for me to reject the people who have hurt me to the point of being callous in my mind. I don't want or need to do that. They're human. Their needs are too big for me and inappropriate because I'm not their parents who weren't able to meet their needs in the past. But that doesn't mean they don't deserve compassion. I'll try to keep my mind compassionate even during my permanent decision to go no contact ❤
I really appreciate your pointing out the black or white (people are all good/bad, all for them/against them) aka "Splitting" in NPD, which I was taught eons ago only with Borderline PD. My someday-soon ex-wife of 38 years never fit BPD, and only through learning here about Communal and Covert Narcissism learned the myriad of broken relationships in her /our life like a tornado path from Splitting. Finally, when I got hurt and couldn't fulfill her idealized future dreams and "ruined (her) life" - she then discarded me.
I just broke up with my narcissistic quote-unquote fiance which was just the long game after 3 and 1/2 years and more I watch your videos the more I realize how bad she was it is blowing my mind You know I think some of us all have a little bit of narcissist in them but I think she was premeditating and planned all of it...
Each one of your videos is a gem. I can’t thank you enough. Everything you said in the Phil video is bang on. Am dumbstruck how you can be so so accurate.
The woman that attempted to pretend to love me and then destroy my life has a very disturbing history that I uncovered . She literally moved from town to town in our central NJ county wreaking havoc along her path. What struck me as unbelievable was that if you follow her path she went directly west from town to the next town . She would stay in each town for 2 to 3 years and then move on to the next ...I hate to use this word because its one of the most abused words in modern english but the only description I can use to describe her as I now look back to all of the hurtful , calculated and heartless things that she did..the word ' creepy ' is the only appropriate adjective ....
My mom has been giving me the silent treatment for the better part of the last 5 years with spurts of her weird attempts at getting a reaction out of me. I live 2,000+ miles away and just don’t want to deal with it anymore 🙃
Wish I knew this during the 25 yrs of my marriage to a narc. I would have had stronger boundaries and emerged from the relationship less traumatized. Yes, the narc hates being discarded or reverse doscarded either. He moved on with new supply, a former divorce client he'd made very rich on alimony but not before rattling me to my core. And proceeded to announce on SM to his huge fan following that he had taken tough decision regarding his domestic issues, giving the impression that he'd broken up with me, 2nd wife, 2 kids in 25 yrs. Nobody has bought his lies and he has suffered huge narcissistic injury. I'm really bracing myself for the divorce or hoover, when it happens
@@Mockduck2020you are right, he wouldn't have respected my boundaries. The marriage lasted only because I did not have strong boundaries and put up with his terrible behavior, emotional, financial and sexual abuse. He was caught soliciting for sex on his mobile, and I moved out of the bedroom instead. He waited a decade before leaving, only after he found new supply. Before that he made a last ditch effort to get me to supply him sex. I had long ceased to assure him safety in the relationship
the narcissistic supervisor I dealt with was so insecure that he got mad when his bosses told him that I'm doing a great job, before I figured him out I used to be so confused and asked myself what is it that I need to do more to make him satisfied, until I caught him in a lie and we argue,then I knew something about him is wrong, I previously asked him for some uniforms and he wrote it down and promised me that It will there soon and I kept waiting until the big boss came to the job site and asked me why I don't have the proper uniforms on , he blatantly denied having any conversation with me about that but I used to remind him of that almost every day, there were too many situations I caught him trying to change the truth and pick on my job performances, I complained and provided evidence of all those situations, but I just felt like it didn't worth it so I decided to quit the job because he already ruined my reputation with the company
I told my ex Narc in a voice note that she has faults and isn't perfect like everyone else as we're all human. She immediately blocked me and calls and texts from anonymous phone numbers came to a halt.
These people are pathetic. Lisa your videos are the most accurate. I can’t believe I fell for those chick. I wasn’t even attracted to her. I felt bad for her and tried to save her.
I laughed heartily at my narc husband who chose to mock my tears - but he looked utterly ridiculous doing it, I had to laugh 😂. He’s been keeping distant from me for days, ah peace and quiet!
I can see my narcisstic traits from the dissolve of my last relationship and I ended up hurting myself unintentionally with alot of mistakes from being uneducated in narcism. Now I have to deal with wreckage of my words and actions. I'm sorry to the ones I hurt in the process. I'm slowly making changes to be better.
@@clintonnagy1662 Yes! People who become utterly narcissistic are often mistreated by narcissists themselves. Narcissists project their bad behaviors onto the people they manipulate. Its a terrible infectious plague. Break the cycle! Recover your true self and discard the poison they put in your mind. I applaud your efforts and I'm rooting for you to come through intact. Stay connected to your heart and listen to it. Narcissists have lost their connection with their own hearts because they don't want to feel pain. It might hurt, but if you stay connected with your heart, you can free yourself from narcissistic influence. 💪 ❤️
Spot on !!!!!!! I’ve read hundreds of two bob excuses people make on a narcs behalf . Just bolt away from them , there’s no way back . Break free from the self hate and go go go 😊
I wish I could tell whether my ex-wife was a covert, sadistic, narcissist, or borderline personality disorder, the traits are so similar. I watched your videos on both for quite a while, and they all seem to describe my experience with my ex. The wounded fear of abandonment, rejection, raging anger, silent treatment for weeks, etc., maybe she had both?
@@heinzii7834 It's not even real hair. We all know you paid a cow to have the black patches off it's back. Now that cow is dead of hypethermia. I hope you're proud.
Yes, one of the worse things I have done as a mother in law is not commenting on her Facebook posts. I would like them sometimes, but didn't say anything. Needless to say the posts were always bragging in nature. I got a ranting text from my son about it. He isn't on Facebook, but obviously was told how awful I was for not commenting.
Good advice. Once we understand that they cannot help what they are, we lose the desire for revenge. Our anger is rooted in the delusion that they have the ability to change. Unfortunately, this does not appear to be true. Corrective punishment by society as a whole, aimed at the bad behavior, however, may help to protect innocents from them in the future.
@@LiseLeblanc You are 100% correct. It is a moral error to take joy in the suffering of others. Even monsters. They cannot help what they are. We should have compassion for their suffering and seek to find a cure for the disease instead. I am sorry.
8 days is the longest he's gone. And the only reason he stopped was bc it was Vday! He bright me roses... i was so angry! Didn't want them. But didn't know what i was dealing with! When I praised his son in law for all he's crone from and accomplished... he said way too make me look bad John! 😮💔🥺🧐 8/29/24 my eyes were opened, scales removed, vail was torn! It was my "Dory" moment! All the things flooded in at once on a road trip alone! Now I'm learning what to do!
*_Finding out they're the big star of an upcoming book on Narcissists and ALL the damage they do with them in the leading role doesn't exactly "stroke" that ego._** But like DRAGNET "The Names Have Been Changed to Protect the Innocent." hahaha*
I love your descriptions of the typical narcissist. I had two (!) as parents, it took me years to realize and to somewhat heal. It is still a daily fight. Unbelievable but true. It gets even worse when they take cocaine, something they cannot do without. Probably the dopamine, true old maniacs. Without yoga and meditation I wouldn't live any more. By the way, after all I do think love in a Christian sense is simply wrong. Self-control and discernment is it, at least for me.
I will add another one. When you refuse to see them as a pure victim. When you listen to one of their sob stories and refuse to agree that they are completely blameless or powerless. For instance, a narc bully I recently walked away from told a story about how her daughters orthopedic specialist deliberately hurt her daughter at a recent appointment by being too rough while moving the knee. She spun a tale about this woman being rough, cruel, and dismissive of her objections to such treatment. Now, taking all this at face value (because I realize theres a good chance this was all BS because even her husband sitting next to me seemed surprised as if this was the first time he heard it too) I declared that was the last time I would be taking my kid to that doctor and the whole office would have overheard me giving that quack a piece of my mind. Because Im a momma bear and nobody gets away with treating my kids like that. I believe she was expecting quite a different reaction...comiserating instead of holding her accountable to her duty as a mom to defend and protect her child. But I figured out later that the N is just a mid level bully and takes her frustrations out on those she sees as a weaker target when she cant out bully a bigger bully, such as a learned doctor, a person in "authority" over her. Thats another thing about narcs. They grow up in toxic families that twist up what authority figures are about and confuse them into thinking they have authority over their peers and equals in life....when they dont.😂
Yeah negative feedback is like the biggest one I have witnessed. When I would try to talk to my girlfriend about something that bothers me or has hurt me. She would flip she would go right into oh you are just guilt tripping me you are jealous and then it was don’t come over tonight and she would ignore me the rest of the day. She just always said I was attacking her or I wanted to control her like it didn’t matter how I approached her I tried every way possible. Always the same reaction.
Mine would reply with, "So I'm just a piece of $hit" at least 90 percent of the time when nothing of the kind was said or even implied. Even saying something positive could elicit the same or similar reply from her occasionally. Dinner was really good tonight, could result in a statement from her, "So I cook like $hit all of the other times?"; it was really hard to know what to say to as sometimes anything could set her off. Then she would complain that I didn't tell her my feelings or opinions about anything. Heck, even saying anything about something that had absolutely nothing to do with her could set her off on a rage. I'm so glad that it is finally ending; there is not an egg left in the place that hasn't been walked on.
After watching your videos on people who have NPD...I just realized my ex- GF suffers from this disorder. I wonder how people are with NPD when their EX doesn't give them any attention anymore. She still calls me to this day. Not to say that she misses me or to say hi how are you *BUT* to ask me for something. Sad.
Doc, do you ever reach out to help people that are suffering from narcissistic abuse? I've been looking for serious help. I'm a good man, surrounded by a very supportive family and friends..yet, none can give me directions on my problem ( a soon to be x wife) whom I just married October 2023... She loved by me for the first 2 months of engagement.. the day we got married she was photobombing a man at the airport after we just got married.. when I told her it bothered me her answer was oh well.. That's when I thought I might be in trouble here. I was, in the first week of our marriage she raged on me for 9 days straight.. and this happened several times in the first 2 months, until one day at the end of a 9-day rage, she told me a story about some dumb guy she pretended to love, who bought her food and jewelry and clothes... When I asked her who was that? She blatantly said, it was you you idiot! I only married you for health coverage.. there's a lot more to the story but that's how it started off.. I am very forgiving to a false, because of the many hardships in life I've developed of nature of calmness and peace.. in fact I was accused of her of being two peaceful, too good, two loving!.. I wish I had somebody that was like that for me.. anyway I was going to end the marriage.. it was a lie, she did agree to go to the doctor where she was diagnosed bipolar, however now that we are separated and I look back at what happened, after listening to you and Dr Romani, and Dr zung, I've realized I am with a narcissist. In April of 2024 my wife told me the day before she filed a restraining order on medid she like looking at other men and liked when they looked at her.. I just thanked her for being honest and said I already know that, and I said we're Christians though we have to bounce our eyes right.. and she says I'm very close to committing adultery on you.. shocked I said you didn't did you? She said no but I'm very close to having an affair.. she had quitter job 2 months prior to this telling me that God was plaguing her because she didn't quit her job she told God she would quit her job when she got married.. there's two was a lie,. The day after she had told me she was going to commit adultery the next morning when we took her to her doctor's appointment she dismissed me to the waiting room.. 45 minutes later a police officer came out and said she was afraid to go home with me.. a couple hours later they serve me with the phony restraining order and took all my property out of the house such as firearms left me in a puddle of tears broken hearted because I actually loved her however she didn't love me it was just fake. When we got the court over the restraining order she tried to charge me $500 a week, that's a week not a month..500 hours a week to drop the restraining order, that is extortion.. I wound up negotiating it down to 2:50 because my attorney said the judge could give it to her. This is all over a lie in the stroke of a pen. I have had nothing but problems since trying to get her out of my life. I filed for divorce and she is making it as crazy as possible of course. My attorney is pretty good but he doesn't know anything about narcissism. I'm so much looking for somebody to tell me something positive. Thank you for your channel I did describe and hit the like button. I'd even pay for some friendly council.. I just feel stuck and hopeless, as the attorneys are not believing that she's going to do the things that I say she's going to do, and then she does it and they're surprised.. like a civil agreement to get her stuff and she broke every single rule... And it's almost like she's been planning this before we even got married which I think she did. Any help would be appreciated, and if you can't I understand you're busy. Thank you for your channel I'll keep watching
Now it all makes sense, my ex covert narc used to make some snide remarks about my parents succes, she used to try to make me feel horrible because my parents worked hard for what they had and gave me a great childhood. Yes i admit they did spoil me but i didnt turn out rotten, id rather give someone the last dollar i have than see someone hurt, sad, not able to eat, or whatever..one day on a phone call she tried humiliating me in front of if her bestie just because my parents worked hard and gave me a good childhood..yes I had a housekeeper, nanny, a chauffer, I went to a private school, etc but I grew up and got into a culinary arts school and she saw all that my parents did for me as somehow being bad and boy did she rip into me, her bestie had to tell her to stop now..now her bestie has kicked her out of her life and she has neither one, if us..funny thing is im now dating the woman ive loved for 11 years and my ex, if us..funny thing is im now dating the woman I've loved for 11 years and my ex has a huge crush in her..I didn't k know they were friends until after me and the demon got together.I wonder what kinda narc injury that's gonna cause when she finds out after all her snooping and stalking..i h8 my ex and i dont normally say i h8 ppl but she sent me to the mental hospital and all for what? Her own fcking fragile ego...
Question, Bipolar and BDP and NPD all have similar symptoms, my wife was diagnosed Bipolar in the late 80's, is it possible she could have been missed diagnose, because I've been reading the book, Stop being a Caretaker, and She seems to check the boxes more for BDP NPD tha. She eved did Bipolar, we've been married 20 years, and I don't even know who she is anymore, never know what im gonna get when she wakes up mist mornings, thanks in advance
Basically all cluster b personality disorders are comorbid, so don't get caught up in the label, they all have the same symptoms, extreme selfishness, emotional disregulation, anxiety/ depression. addicted to conflict and drama, some are just more violent and nasty then others
Shaun...there is a difference between a little envy of someone else's success and attacking their character in order to elevate your own low self esteem.
yeah there’s a little niggle of jealousy, a little “grr” somewhere in our mind.. but it’s just not as extreme. I think personality disorders are distortions of normal responses.. everything with them is exaggerated and out of whack, but a normal person could experience a similar reaction at times (esp if they were very unhappy for example)
You may be a narccist, lol. I don't rlly get triggered by others success I have a good for them how can I get that! Then I work towards steps to get it. When I go to the basketball court and see someone rlly good I'm like o shit that move was fire! How do I do that. When I was at the gym and seen this guy working hella hard I was like damn bro you got rlly good work ethic.
@@frcomet5009 yeah me too in general- i’m only saying that feeling something on certain limited occasions is something normal people also experience. But I’m glad you’re so evolved 😃 I’m also very much not a narcissist, not even close..
Moving on and never paying them any mind, ever again.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
0 contact. no contact = no control.
Unless there are kids involved. 😢
your indifference; giving them negative feedback; being outshined by someone else’s success; lack of praise for their achievements; confronting them about their insecurities; when you don’t meet their expectations; when they realize they can’t control you; when you challenge their opinion; when they lose special privileges; rejection
Yeah, but those behaviors could hurt anyone, narcissist or not. Those are pretty mean things to do to someone regardless of their personality type.
Most, if not all of those things listed could hurt anyone if done to them. That’s more like a list of how to be unloving to people in general.
Bingo
My coworker checks all of the boxes. 😢
Spot on 🎉
10 things that crush the narcissist's ego
1-your indifference. narcs thrive on attention.
2-giving them negative feedback. it threatens their inflated self image.
3-being outshined by someone's success.
4-giving lack of praise for minor things. they will feel upset about not being admired.
5-confronting a narcissist their insecurities.
6-when you don't meet their ever-changing expectations.
7-when they can't control or manipulate you.
8-when you challenge their authority and prove them wrong.
9-when they lose special privileges.
10-experiencing rejection or abandonment.
cheers from southern ontario, canada 🍁
I did all of this and got reverse discarded after 25 yrs. The relationship really is untenable.
Took me 1 year to plan the great escape 🙏💯🙏💯love peace and happiness
Thank You!
I guess I have this “gifting” down to a “T”….
Narcissism is a spectrum. Annoying when you claim it is 10 things only. Very superficial.
"not talking to you for days for reasons that don't match the situation at all"
This one especially resonates.
I’m going through that now why do they do this ?
exhausting. they're everwhere
We're obviously not alone..
Stand strong my friend
Eye love you
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They aren't. There is a current epidemic of misdiagnosis. I guess if you want to make a valid claim of this one could point to social media/onlyfans creating it, though I'd say it's more economically driven and not a true representation of these individuals' character behind closed doors.
Truthfully, I don't care what hurts them. I care about protecting myself from them. To do that, I educate myself. Nothing else is necessary.
Absolutely! Knowledge is power!
Its a dog eat dog world out there. You must protect yourself and do whats right for you at the end of rhe day.
There is no ego there. Only a false self. That is very well protected
Nobody can ever meet a Narcissist expectations. My Mom is a psychopathic Narcissist and have done numerous illegal horrific things yet has never been caught for what she has done. It took me years to educate myself, have been in therapy on and off for years from all the abuse, learning about this, learning to cope with all the trauma and so forth. Thank you for your video. Educating myself has helped me so so much. I got so use to being blamed and abused I still catch myself blaming myself for my Mom’s behavior.
Controlling people are just evil. That's all I have to say.
Your right it's evil.
The Narcissist: 1) All I do is amazing, 2) My pain hurts more than others, 3) I deserve everything because I simply exist in my perfection/superior state, 4) I have the right to to feel down sometimes. I am human... A sad existence that affects negatively everyone around.
That just sounds like anyone. I don't understand? Shouldn't everybody feel that they are amazing and that their pain matters and they are important and to feel down sometimes. Are you just attacking everyone for not acting like machines who constantly serve others?
You may be narssistic just judging from that response lol
@@frcomet5009 You never know who is on the other side of UA-cam...
Watching your videos helped me to break free from my narcissistic ex and now my life is so much better thank you 🙏🏿🙏🏿
When I first met her she was continually ending things, any petty disagreement, we were over. All part of the manipulation until you agree they're always right. 🤯
I kept hearing the narc say " do i need to find your replacement....." foreshadowing on their part, life saving on my part :)
@deb2319 she'd say to me "are you going to do this or do I need to find a man that will".
@toysandmore1368 it's awful isn't it, but it does get easier. These people just use us, they never really love us. We're better off without them, cos you can guarantee they'll be tormenting the person who's currently trying to help them.
@@JohnSmith-wo7ns
What if my gf tells me she’s gonna sleep with someone else tomorrow night unless I come to hers tonight?
(This happened last week)
Leave now
the best way to trigger a narc is to leave them, before they dump you, and never look back. 0 contact.
Excellent video! As a child I didn't like or understand my mother's silent treatments. Now that I know what she's doing, I consider her silent treatments a nice vacation from her usual baiting, manipulating and criticism. 😊
The reason that I've stayed in my " relationship " is largely because I'm elderly and alone apart from having some grown up grandsons living hundreds of miles away. I walked away from her emotional abuse numerous times but always returned partly for having still feelings for her, partly feeling sorry for her and partly hoping things could get better. We've only been back together a month but nothing really changes. I changed by stopping calling her out on her dismissive, devaluing ways. I haven't as yet walked away this time. Trying to resolve things by talking only created more problems. I was blamed for everything plus got the passive aggression/ silent treatment etc. Recently I looked after her house and dog while she went on holiday with her family. She left the house with no heating on and no basic provisions in the fridge so I went shopping for them and boiled kettles for hot water to do the dishes and wash . She never text or rang for 4 days even to say she'd arrived and on the 5th day rang asking why I hadn't replied to the text she says she sent on day 1 ( there was no text! ) plus she could have rung me anyway. She explained the gas fire is not working and where the emersion heater controls are ( buried under clutter in the cupboard) I said nothing. Then last week I helped get her garden nice spent days at various jobs and was allowed to even stop over ( she usually complains I wake too early as she's not a morning person)
Her family can stay anytime and her elderly brother often stays in the spare ) Yesterday she said her sister and brother in law are visiting today but I'm not invited over, she said she'll see me tomorrow. I guess she wants to show off her nice garden and all the work SHE'S done. She really doesn't like them knowing I'm actually kind to her. I again said nothing critical . Normally I'd have told her exactly where to go and then spent another month or two apart . I'd decided to take the Attitude of " take what's best and ignore the rest" but the best is quite minimal and the rest is crushing my self esteem and dignity . Being Mr.nice guy isn't working. I partly don't even enjoy her company these days and am better off alone without the drama and mind games and constant jobs she needs doing and the rewards like being ignored. I'm a fit healthy 70 year old but my future seems to be as a handyman/ carer for someone who really has no genuine interest in me as a person. I need help or a good kick.
Move on bro ...30 years later n every morning I say thank you ...I am free ...I am myself again ...I love my life ...try it ...works wonders ...life is the miracle please do not throw it away waste it on a n ungrateful wife ...remove the title wife ...ask yourself ...do I like this person ...the answer is no ...I don't hang out with people I don't like ...so why you allowing a nasty piece of work.. wife ...to destroy you ...and you destroying yourself as well ...wake up bro ...life is too short ...this is no dress rehersal ..you only get one life ...here n now ...go for it ...the force is with you ...❤😊
Why are you doing this to yourself? I'm sorry if that comes across as harsh - Lord knows I've had some poor experiences with narcs and placed myself in situations that enabled their abuse and disrespect. But I believe that we can control our thoughts, emotions and actions - and once we're educated about narcissism, etc and know better, then we should do better. It sounds like you're already physically healthy and fit, and financially & logistically independent - you just need to work on being emotionally healthy and independent. Don't spend your sunset years suffering this abuse and breaking your own heart. The companionship this woman is offering isn't worth the price of admission. Good luck!
The other night me and my girlfriend were talking about a video I sent to her to try and “effectively communicate” The tone her voice during our conversation was getting elevated. I very calmly was telling her to “calm down” and “relax” when she went into a rage screaming at the top of her lungs that she’s calm and to stop saying her f*ucking name like that. I simply hung up the phone and blocked her. I will no longer be disrespected and have my concerns minimized all the while maximizing hers. I am done and I’m never calling her again. No contact
Sounds a bit like you were invalidating her. Telling someone to calm down or relax when they are upset rarely does that. It just comes off condescending
Yikes
@@healing344 I understand how it can sound that way to you. My reasoning for telling her to calm down was not about invalidating her at all. Are conversation turning into triangulation like it always does. I’ll try to have a constructive conversation with her….No cursing. Calm tone, nothing insulting. Just simply trying to have a mature conversation and express my concerns. And before you know it. She’s pissed! And receives constructive criticism as an attack to her personally….smh. Before you know it, I’m apologizing.
@@chefscj3082 I stuck with a person like that. She arranged a brutal betrayal and discard for me as revenge and to try to take away my peace. That's how it ends if you stay - in some bad way. Don't look back.
@@healing344 yup. I was such a social imbecile that I couldnt see how counter-productive that kind of statement is.
1 - Your indifference
2 - Giving them negative feedback
3 - Being outshined by someone else’s success
4 - Lack of praise for their achievements
5 - Confronting them about their insecurities
6 - When you don’t meet their expectations
7 - When they realize they can’t control you
8 - When you challenge their opinion
9 - When they lose special privileges
10 - Rejection
29 years of chaos and 1 year of learning about why. All the pieces fell into place and I am now moving on. Your words here are perfect timing. Thank you.
Good Luck!!!
Described my ex to a T. She displayed all 10. Set boundaries, protect your peace and if you share a child, block out any petty noise, be the best parent you can be by giving your child time and love.
Cheers!
I have been in recovery for four-years. Your videos are valued and appreciated. Your reminders and insight help me keep a healthy perspective when I start doubting myself or my logic. Thank you.
Your videos have been
invaluable to me. I've joined today. 62 years
with a family covert
narc. It has effected
my life very much. I
set up my boundaries thanks to you & others
plus SW I am now so
aware. Connecting the
dots has enlightened
me. Thanks so much.
Well I find them valuable. And I am sure many others find them valuable. Next time you call someone else's work "invaluable," think about this... my mother taught me that if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing at all.
I'm sorry to hear that you've endured this covert narcissist for 62 years. I can empathize with the negative impacts this has had on your life. Thankfully you are now aware and setting healthy boundaries!
Calm down @@seanrobinson6407
It’s very important to recognise and control a desire to ‘payback’ in oneself after being in a friendship with a narcissist.
i’m so glad those days are over . i so wish i had heard this stuff 40 years ago .. Lise , you are helping so many .. God Bless you Girl 👧🏻 you kids … listen to this Lady. (kids meaning 50 and younger )😎
Absolutely I wish I knew all this many many years ago when my ex-wife was given divorce papers she was an absolute shock the reason why she was so shocked was that I gave her three months to make an effort to fix the relationship she was on the phone screaming at me I had two more days that was how little that woman thought of me she was going to spend 10 minutes with me and that was it everything was going to be fine
@@frankbujans5901 hang on man … here’s to better days ahead 🙏🏼
And they will never get over anything because they can't internalize their emotions it could be 10 years ago but it happened yesterday for them they can never truly move on or grow from any experience imagine living in that frame of thought for the rest of your life no wonder they're so angry and so bitter and so miserable all the time
Very solid list. And I do want to add we have a responsibility to emphasize, in each video like this, single traits do not confirm someone is a narcissist. For instance, a lot of people have a hard time dealing with negative feedback or being confronted by indifference. People matter and need to feel loved. A core need. So a (few) isolated trait(s) like poorly dealing with indifference or negative feedback is not a confirmation someone is a narcissist. It's a combination of multiple behavioral traits and behaviors.
Miles... agreed and these traits need to be present over a long, long period of time. The behavior will also be illogical and the resulting emotional response is childish.
Lise, your videos have helped me so much the past 2 years!! I’ve moved on from my narcissistic spouse after 25 years. Life is so much better now.
You go deeper here in a way that really resonates to answer why I am never getting fairness with others especially when I complain! Thank you for the insightful details that are necessary when dealing with narcissists in ways other than just leaving. You can't just leave every situation in life where narcs raise their ugly head.... and I don't intend to do that where they reside in institutional structures raising havoc.
When a broken/damaged/immature/abusive man
is using a woman, he’ll show these signs:
- he avoids truly deep and emotionally vulnerable conversations
- he's inconsistent
- he only contacts you when he needs/wants something
- he doesn't REALLY include you in his life (it's all an illusion/fantasy)
- he avoids commitments/labels
- he makes you feel guilty/crazy/needy
- he doesn't truly support you or your goals (in any real and tangible way)
So,
If he pulls away, give him a push...
Let him go!
When he pulls away,
he can stay away,
it is over!
It is complete.
1) Never EVER be afraid of losing him. You are the Divine feminine. Let him fear losing YOU!
2) Have an EXTREMELY low tolerance for ANY bad behavior...
AVOIDANT or NARCISSIST?
Let's be real.
It's irrelevant.
They both behave the same.
The damage they do is the same.
The trauma they cause is the same.
FUCK THEM BOTH.
So,
When there’s a disagreement,
an argument, a conflict, some bullying,
disrespect, boundaries being crossed etc...
someone will inevitably,
most likely,
be disappointed in me...
So,
I engage in each and every situation
in a way that ensures,
that the person disappointed in me,
NEVER ENDS UP BEING ME!
I aim to never repress,
never suppress.
I aim to never lose parts of myself.
Radical honesty only:
100% of the time.
Always,
all ways.
AND REMEMBER:
to test if ANY relationship is healthy -
you've got to judge the relationship on its bad days,
not on its good ones!
Excellent insight into how Narcs respond to threats to their ego. I'm in process of finally getting rid of my Narc after 34 years of emotional manipulation and torment. Thank you so much for your guidance.
They’re running from the truth of themselves being trash. I don’t like to describe anything as trash but narcs are trash
Man the negative feedback thing is so true. No matter how much you sugar-coat something, they take it the wrong way and blow it way out of proportion. My ex asked me how a dress looked on her. She had gained some weight (I didn't care she was still beautiful to me) and the dress wasn't the most flattering. I knew how sensitive she was to her looks so I said, "that dress doesn't highlight your best qualities"... and I might as well had called her fat the way she blew up.
Awesome video!
2:58 Positive remarks about another, triggers a negative comparison.
Spot
On
Every
Single
Time.
Thanks for this !!
Thank you!
Absolutely. It baffles me when a cousin shared that her mom was so insecure and comparing when she shared the good fortune of our childhood neighbors when she visited. I was like, "no she doesn't?" They can hear good news from other people without comparing
The court system has to be changed to prevent these things happening especially with young innocent children. The abuser should be held accountable and actions taken.
Your content is incredible ❤
Thank you for exposing my own narcissistic characteristics behaviours. In my own personal life I can easily recall being all these things at one time or another in my life. Trying hard to no longer blame everybody else for my problems and taking responsibility for my own actions. Truly life freeing! No longer a victim but a victor. Thanks again!😊
She makes many valid points. The problem is without a diagnosis from a licensed professional many that watch these types of shorts or videos qualify their significant other as one.
Many times a narc is projecting and calling their spouse a narc jnstee re as of realizing that they are.
The list in the video describes many normal things that are found and needed in a healthy relationship and some that are straight out emotional abuse.
1) the silent treatment = emotional abuse. Trying to crush someone’s ego would be reactive emotional abuse. A therapist wouldn’t advise against this, but instead would give alternatives to this in a healthy, productive manner. On the opposite end of the ego lies the spirit. A healthy spirit that receives the silent treatment is emotional abuse. IMO keeping a silent treatment to an ego or spirit is bad advice.
2) negative feedback - healthy Relationships need this kind of discussion given in a healthy way. To believe that any negative feedback means that your significant other is a narcissist is misleading. How are you giving it? In a healthy way or an unhealthy way. There is a difference.
3) praised deprivation goes along with negative feedback or positive feedback both need to coexist in a healthy state in a healthy relationship. Healthy communication of needs and desires and expectations are key.
4) Needs, wants, desires and entitlements. One partner believes they need or want or desire may be considered an entitlement to the other if they are selfish.
5) draw a clear line between what is power and control vs.boundaries, balance and cooperation.
There is so much of this type of “Narc Talk & Advice” being put on social media platforms that it is hard to determine what is what with each relationship. I see this as hurtful to society as it is helpful. Having your relationship evaluated and counseled by a licensed therapist where the couple can have proper diagnosis with therapy is paramount. Where many go to a channel like this and create more of a mess by having a do it yourself diagnoses and unguided therapy. PLEASE go to a therapist’s in person to discuss the state of your relationship.
This type of “information”should be alarming to all therapist in the active professional field. It leaves so much to be misrepresented and misunderstood.
Dr. Phil gives warnings to this type of self help and always urges those to seek out therapy from a licensed professional in person.
9:52 - Most important message right here. Even a narcissist is a human just like anyone else and doesn't deserve to be purposefully mistreated or manipulated.
Thank you for saying this.
@toysandmore1368 I mean, isn't this entire channel already dedicated to helping those on the receiving end? The best advice from watching about a hundred of these is boundaries and learning to walk away.
Narcissists were often abused by narcissistic people themselves. Don't become like them in reacting to them or you risk becoming them. Its a plague.
I read your post, and you make a valid point. It's something that I didn't understand in the moment but now I do...wish I would of learned that sooner. Everyone deserves respect no matter how good or bad.
@@clintonnagy1662 I would say respect yourself first and foremost. And in the context of dealing with most everyone else plus potentially toxic individuals, it should be earned. What everyone deserves is decency.
I think this is my favourite video on the topic I’ve watched to date. It is so incredibly validating hearing all of the things that truly make my abuser mad and upset and spiral, and knowing that at every step of me reclaiming my space and boundaries and peace, I was taking the right actions to do right by me, and now I can revel in the satisfaction that it certainly upset them to their very core. So proud of staying strong and doing the work to heal. This makes me feel so empowered about my progress, instead of scared of whether or not they will try to come back.
6:58 Exacrly this - don’t give in! My ex was a narcissist, and she always expected me to comply by being “gentle” when we argue and to never talk back at her and just let her vent/be angry and throw tantrums without saying anything. Eventually, I pushed back, and outright refused to be “gentle”.
A few weeks passed, and the discard eventually happened. And to be honest, it feels so liberating! Good riddance!! 👋
The negativity when you're alone is so draining. Then, when they get out in public they are charismatic which makes you feel like they despise you.
I will say, i never gave silent treatment in previous relationships but when youre nade ro feel like your feelings dont matter...you begin to shutdown especially when they stonewall you in disagreements.
So if you experience some of these 10 things...just know, its not you amd you are not a narcissist. I remember watching videos after the discard and i was like omg, im the narc which is what she was accusing me of being
Thank you Lise Leblanc! I also look into the Bible. 2 Timothy 3:1-17..
I lived all of this 100%. I wish I knew/understood these things before I entered, or while I was in my last relationship. I spent months trying to be patient and understanding. Looking for a successful path to navigate the relationship. On a positive note. I did survive, and managed to remove myself from a horrible situation. I gained a better understanding of other people, situations, and relationships throughout my personal and professional life. So maybe I needed this lesson. Dear lord, I hope I've learned what I needed to, so the universe won't send me there again ahaha... Seriously, I think I'm a little wiser, and will be better at respecting the red flags and sidestepping something like this going forward. I hope my ex finds peace. But it's her journey, and her responsibility. I'm talking care of me... 🙏
@@rogersjourney so glad you survived and gained wisdom from the experience. I wish you all the best!
This was really helpful. Thank you for the disclaimer at the end. I feel like it's easy for me to reject the people who have hurt me to the point of being callous in my mind. I don't want or need to do that. They're human. Their needs are too big for me and inappropriate because I'm not their parents who weren't able to meet their needs in the past. But that doesn't mean they don't deserve compassion. I'll try to keep my mind compassionate even during my permanent decision to go no contact ❤
I really appreciate your pointing out the black or white (people are all good/bad, all for them/against them) aka "Splitting" in NPD, which I was taught eons ago only with Borderline PD. My someday-soon ex-wife of 38 years never fit BPD, and only through learning here about Communal and Covert Narcissism learned the myriad of broken relationships in her /our life like a tornado path from Splitting. Finally, when I got hurt and couldn't fulfill her idealized future dreams and "ruined (her) life" - she then discarded me.
So, you got blamed for ruining her life also??? Me too....classic narc guilt trip. 😅
These are all 1000% accurate!!!!!
I just broke up with my narcissistic quote-unquote fiance which was just the long game after 3 and 1/2 years and more I watch your videos the more I realize how bad she was it is blowing my mind You know I think some of us all have a little bit of narcissist in them but I think she was premeditating and planned all of it...
Each one of your videos is a gem. I can’t thank you enough. Everything you said in the Phil video is bang on. Am dumbstruck how you can be so so accurate.
The woman that attempted to pretend to love me and then destroy my life has a very disturbing history that I uncovered . She literally moved from town to town in our central NJ county wreaking havoc along her path. What struck me as unbelievable was that if you follow her path she went directly west from town to the next town . She would stay in each town for 2 to 3 years and then move on to the next
...I hate to use this word because its one of the most abused words in modern english but the only description I can use to describe her as I now look back to all of the hurtful , calculated and heartless things that she did..the word ' creepy ' is the only appropriate adjective ....
Spot on in every way. You have a new subscriber 🎉
Thanks for ur content
My mom has been giving me the silent treatment for the better part of the last 5 years with spurts of her weird attempts at getting a reaction out of me.
I live 2,000+ miles away and just don’t want to deal with it anymore 🙃
Thankyou so much ma'am. This video helped me a lot to know about my narcissist friend. I choose to move on from my friend instead of taking revenge.
Excellent, as usual.
Thank you so much!
I really like your clear explanations and examples :)
Wish I knew this during the 25 yrs of my marriage to a narc. I would have had stronger boundaries and emerged from the relationship less traumatized. Yes, the narc hates being discarded or reverse doscarded either. He moved on with new supply, a former divorce client he'd made very rich on alimony but not before rattling me to my core. And proceeded to announce on SM to his huge fan following that he had taken tough decision regarding his domestic issues, giving the impression that he'd broken up with me, 2nd wife, 2 kids in 25 yrs. Nobody has bought his lies and he has suffered huge narcissistic injury. I'm really bracing myself for the divorce or hoover, when it happens
Do you really think he would have cared about your boundaries?
@@Mockduck2020you are right, he wouldn't have respected my boundaries. The marriage lasted only because I did not have strong boundaries and put up with his terrible behavior, emotional, financial and sexual abuse. He was caught soliciting for sex on his mobile, and I moved out of the bedroom instead. He waited a decade before leaving, only after he found new supply. Before that he made a last ditch effort to get me to supply him sex. I had long ceased to assure him safety in the relationship
Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOOOOUU!!!
Amasing, Thanks very much!
Blocking them for good!!!
Very helpful video
Tks Lise
the narcissistic supervisor I dealt with was so insecure that he got mad when his bosses told him that I'm doing a great job, before I figured him out I used to be so confused and asked myself what is it that I need to do more to make him satisfied, until I caught him in a lie and we argue,then I knew something about him is wrong, I previously asked him for some uniforms and he wrote it down and promised me that It will there soon and I kept waiting until the big boss came to the job site and asked me why I don't have the proper uniforms on , he blatantly denied having any conversation with me about that but I used to remind him of that almost every day, there were too many situations I caught him trying to change the truth and pick on my job performances, I complained and provided evidence of all those situations, but I just felt like it didn't worth it so I decided to quit the job because he already ruined my reputation with the company
I told my ex Narc in a voice note that she has faults and isn't perfect like everyone else as we're all human. She immediately blocked me and calls and texts from anonymous phone numbers came to a halt.
Count yourself lucky!
You are the best, the number 1! (this is probably the way a narcissist would put it)
Great video!
These people are pathetic. Lisa your videos are the most accurate. I can’t believe I fell for those chick. I wasn’t even attracted to her. I felt bad for her and tried to save her.
Your hair is looking good. 🔥🔥 Thank you for the invaluable information. It's a emotional war.
Well
It doesn’t look bad but ya gotta admit it’s a Karen
When in Rome…
Why do people comment on her hair ?
Thank you❤😊
Thanks for your superb help..
I laughed heartily at my narc husband who chose to mock my tears - but he looked utterly ridiculous doing it, I had to laugh 😂. He’s been keeping distant from me for days, ah peace and quiet!
Thank you
Narcissists already constantly hurt themselves. Just stay away from them.
I can see my narcisstic traits from the dissolve of my last relationship and I ended up hurting myself unintentionally with alot of mistakes from being uneducated in narcism. Now I have to deal with wreckage of my words and actions. I'm sorry to the
ones I hurt in the process. I'm slowly making changes to be better.
@@clintonnagy1662 Yes! People who become utterly narcissistic are often mistreated by narcissists themselves. Narcissists project their bad behaviors onto the people they manipulate. Its a terrible infectious plague. Break the cycle! Recover your true self and discard the poison they put in your mind. I applaud your efforts and I'm rooting for you to come through intact. Stay connected to your heart and listen to it. Narcissists have lost their connection with their own hearts because they don't want to feel pain. It might hurt, but if you stay connected with your heart, you can free yourself from narcissistic influence. 💪 ❤️
@@clintonnagy1662 I support your efforts to free yourself from narcissistic influence! 💪❤️
Spot on !!!!!!! I’ve read hundreds of two bob excuses people make on a narcs behalf . Just bolt away from them , there’s no way back . Break free from the self hate and go go go 😊
This is soooo 🎯 🤯
When ur with someone else or when you don’t care about them anymore
Thank you.
I wish I could tell whether my ex-wife was a covert, sadistic, narcissist, or borderline personality disorder, the traits are so similar. I watched your videos on both for quite a while, and they all seem to describe my experience with my ex. The wounded fear of abandonment, rejection, raging anger, silent treatment for weeks, etc., maybe she had both?
You've helped me loads thanks 🙏👍
This hairstyle suits you a lot, thank you again for another great video
So you're saying all our hairstyles are rubbish in comparison?
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@@SpotlessLeopard Just yours.
@@heinzii7834 So by wearing that cap, are you saying the top of your head is more important than mine?
@@SpotlessLeopard No. But yes by proxy. My hat hair is still better looking than yours.
@@heinzii7834 It's not even real hair.
We all know you paid a cow to have the black patches off it's back.
Now that cow is dead of hypethermia.
I hope you're proud.
Yes, one of the worse things I have done as a mother in law is not commenting on her Facebook posts. I would like them sometimes, but didn't say anything. Needless to say the posts were always bragging in nature. I got a ranting text from my son about it. He isn't on Facebook, but obviously was told how awful I was for not commenting.
Needs more context
@@spilledit ? I am not sure what you mean? 🤔
Thank you for all the information. It really helped me understand what I went through.
Me too ❤
Fantastic shirt Lise! You have both class and style. Thank you for the message!!
Wow. Makes so much sense
you are the best!
Nice 🤙🏾
Good advice.
Once we understand that they cannot help what they are, we lose the desire for revenge.
Our anger is rooted in the delusion that they have the ability to change.
Unfortunately, this does not appear to be true.
Corrective punishment by society as a whole, aimed at the bad behavior, however, may help to protect innocents from them in the future.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comment!
@@LiseLeblanc You are 100% correct.
It is a moral error to take joy in the suffering of others.
Even monsters.
They cannot help what they are.
We should have compassion for their suffering and seek to find a cure for the disease instead.
I am sorry.
This kind of relationship will leave you with nothing. Best thing to do is go
8 days is the longest he's gone. And the only reason he stopped was bc it was Vday! He bright me roses... i was so angry! Didn't want them. But didn't know what i was dealing with! When I praised his son in law for all he's crone from and accomplished... he said way too make me look bad John! 😮💔🥺🧐 8/29/24 my eyes were opened, scales removed, vail was torn! It was my "Dory" moment! All the things flooded in at once on a road trip alone! Now I'm learning what to do!
*_Finding out they're the big star of an upcoming book on Narcissists and ALL the damage they do with them in the leading role doesn't exactly "stroke" that ego._** But like DRAGNET "The Names Have Been Changed to Protect the Innocent." hahaha*
Diggin the hair!
I love your descriptions of the typical narcissist.
I had two (!) as parents, it took me years to realize and to somewhat heal. It is still a daily fight. Unbelievable but true. It gets even worse when they take cocaine, something they cannot do without. Probably the dopamine, true old maniacs. Without yoga and meditation I wouldn't live any more. By the way, after all I do think love in a Christian sense is simply wrong. Self-control and discernment is it, at least for me.
I will add another one. When you refuse to see them as a pure victim. When you listen to one of their sob stories and refuse to agree that they are completely blameless or powerless. For instance, a narc bully I recently walked away from told a story about how her daughters orthopedic specialist deliberately hurt her daughter at a recent appointment by being too rough while moving the knee. She spun a tale about this woman being rough, cruel, and dismissive of her objections to such treatment.
Now, taking all this at face value (because I realize theres a good chance this was all BS because even her husband sitting next to me seemed surprised as if this was the first time he heard it too)
I declared that was the last time I would be taking my kid to that doctor and the whole office would have overheard me giving that quack a piece of my mind. Because Im a momma bear and nobody gets away with treating my kids like that.
I believe she was expecting quite a different reaction...comiserating instead of holding her accountable to her duty as a mom to defend and protect her child.
But I figured out later that the N is just a mid level bully and takes her frustrations out on those she sees as a weaker target when she cant out bully a bigger bully, such as a learned doctor, a person in "authority" over her.
Thats another thing about narcs. They grow up in toxic families that twist up what authority figures are about and confuse them into thinking they have authority over their peers and equals in life....when they dont.😂
Yeah negative feedback is like the biggest one I have witnessed. When I would try to talk to my girlfriend about something that bothers me or has hurt me. She would flip she would go right into oh you are just guilt tripping me you are jealous and then it was don’t come over tonight and she would ignore me the rest of the day. She just always said I was attacking her or I wanted to control her like it didn’t matter how I approached her I tried every way possible. Always the same reaction.
Mine would reply with, "So I'm just a piece of $hit" at least 90 percent of the time when nothing of the kind was said or even implied. Even saying something positive could elicit the same or similar reply from her occasionally. Dinner was really good tonight, could result in a statement from her, "So I cook like $hit all of the other times?"; it was really hard to know what to say to as sometimes anything could set her off. Then she would complain that I didn't tell her my feelings or opinions about anything. Heck, even saying anything about something that had absolutely nothing to do with her could set her off on a rage. I'm so glad that it is finally ending; there is not an egg left in the place that hasn't been walked on.
@@rogerwhoareyou yeah that’s the victim playing shit been there.
I had many friends like that so i left them and keep to myself
Basically any communication that is not a*s licking probably will hurt narc's fragile ego
After watching your videos on people who have NPD...I just realized my ex- GF suffers from this disorder. I wonder how people are with NPD when their EX doesn't give them any attention anymore. She still calls me to this day. Not to say that she misses me or to say hi how are you *BUT* to ask me for something. Sad.
This explains why they omve on so fast to.the nexts person
Doc, do you ever reach out to help people that are suffering from narcissistic abuse? I've been looking for serious help. I'm a good man, surrounded by a very supportive family and friends..yet, none can give me directions on my problem ( a soon to be x wife) whom I just married October 2023... She loved by me for the first 2 months of engagement.. the day we got married she was photobombing a man at the airport after we just got married.. when I told her it bothered me her answer was oh well..
That's when I thought I might be in trouble here. I was, in the first week of our marriage she raged on me for 9 days straight.. and this happened several times in the first 2 months, until one day at the end of a 9-day rage, she told me a story about some dumb guy she pretended to love, who bought her food and jewelry and clothes... When I asked her who was that? She blatantly said, it was you you idiot! I only married you for health coverage.. there's a lot more to the story but that's how it started off.. I am very forgiving to a false, because of the many hardships in life I've developed of nature of calmness and peace.. in fact I was accused of her of being two peaceful, too good, two loving!.. I wish I had somebody that was like that for me.. anyway I was going to end the marriage.. it was a lie, she did agree to go to the doctor where she was diagnosed bipolar, however now that we are separated and I look back at what happened, after listening to you and Dr Romani, and Dr zung, I've realized I am with a narcissist. In April of 2024 my wife told me the day before she filed a restraining order on medid she like looking at other men and liked when they looked at her.. I just thanked her for being honest and said I already know that, and I said we're Christians though we have to bounce our eyes right.. and she says I'm very close to committing adultery on you.. shocked I said you didn't did you? She said no but I'm very close to having an affair.. she had quitter job 2 months prior to this telling me that God was plaguing her because she didn't quit her job she told God she would quit her job when she got married.. there's two was a lie,. The day after she had told me she was going to commit adultery the next morning when we took her to her doctor's appointment she dismissed me to the waiting room.. 45 minutes later a police officer came out and said she was afraid to go home with me.. a couple hours later they serve me with the phony restraining order and took all my property out of the house such as firearms left me in a puddle of tears broken hearted because I actually loved her however she didn't love me it was just fake. When we got the court over the restraining order she tried to charge me $500 a week, that's a week not a month..500 hours a week to drop the restraining order, that is extortion.. I wound up negotiating it down to 2:50 because my attorney said the judge could give it to her. This is all over a lie in the stroke of a pen. I have had nothing but problems since trying to get her out of my life. I filed for divorce and she is making it as crazy as possible of course. My attorney is pretty good but he doesn't know anything about narcissism. I'm so much looking for somebody to tell me something positive. Thank you for your channel I did describe and hit the like button. I'd even pay for some friendly council.. I just feel stuck and hopeless, as the attorneys are not believing that she's going to do the things that I say she's going to do, and then she does it and they're surprised.. like a civil agreement to get her stuff and she broke every single rule... And it's almost like she's been planning this before we even got married which I think she did. Any help would be appreciated, and if you can't I understand you're busy. Thank you for your channel I'll keep watching
Now it all makes sense, my ex covert narc used to make some snide remarks about my parents succes, she used to try to make me feel horrible because my parents worked hard for what they had and gave me a great childhood. Yes i admit they did spoil me but i didnt turn out rotten, id rather give someone the last dollar i have than see someone hurt, sad, not able to eat, or whatever..one day on a phone call she tried humiliating me in front of if her bestie just because my parents worked hard and gave me a good childhood..yes I had a housekeeper, nanny, a chauffer, I went to a private school, etc but I grew up and got into a culinary arts school and she saw all that my parents did for me as somehow being bad and boy did she rip into me, her bestie had to tell her to stop now..now her bestie has kicked her out of her life and she has neither one, if us..funny thing is im now dating the woman ive loved for 11 years and my ex, if us..funny thing is im now dating the woman I've loved for 11 years and my ex has a huge crush in her..I didn't k know they were friends until after me and the demon got together.I wonder what kinda narc injury that's gonna cause when she finds out after all her snooping and stalking..i h8 my ex and i dont normally say i h8 ppl but she sent me to the mental hospital and all for what? Her own fcking fragile ego...
Question, Bipolar and BDP and NPD all have similar symptoms, my wife was diagnosed Bipolar in the late 80's, is it possible she could have been missed diagnose, because I've been reading the book, Stop being a Caretaker, and She seems to check the boxes more for BDP NPD tha. She eved did Bipolar, we've been married 20 years, and I don't even know who she is anymore, never know what im gonna get when she wakes up mist mornings, thanks in advance
Basically all cluster b personality disorders are comorbid, so don't get caught up in the label, they all have the same symptoms, extreme selfishness, emotional disregulation, anxiety/ depression. addicted to conflict and drama, some are just more violent and nasty then others
Being outshined by someone else isn’t just triggering for narcissists. Anyone can feel triggered by someone elses success
Shaun...there is a difference between a little envy of someone else's success and attacking their character in order to elevate your own low self esteem.
yeah there’s a little niggle of jealousy, a little “grr” somewhere in our mind.. but it’s just not as extreme. I think personality disorders are distortions of normal responses.. everything with them is exaggerated and out of whack, but a normal person could experience a similar reaction at times (esp if they were very unhappy for example)
You may be a narccist, lol. I don't rlly get triggered by others success I have a good for them how can I get that! Then I work towards steps to get it. When I go to the basketball court and see someone rlly good I'm like o shit that move was fire! How do I do that. When I was at the gym and seen this guy working hella hard I was like damn bro you got rlly good work ethic.
@@frcomet5009 yeah me too in general- i’m only saying that feeling something on certain limited occasions is something normal people also experience. But I’m glad you’re so evolved 😃
I’m also very much not a narcissist, not even close..