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You missed the cliffhanger at the end of the last episode Caitlin is literally looking at Jinx' escape route, then we get a pan out scene where an airship flies into the horizon and jinx cuts the film
@Bricky You can never be "too preachy" in regards to classism and no it really wan't preachy at all, more lib-centrist if anything any anti preachy. Really strange take Bricky.
Im not prudish about smexy scenes, but that was just crammed in there in the only place they could find that remotely worked. And honestly it just didn't work. They could have used that time anywhere else and they chose the scene while jinx was going to blow herself up.
The producers at Riot said they left complete creative freedom to Fortiche for that scene "We thought was best to let the french be french". They went so far that Netflix didn't allow the publishing of the entire season for rating issues. So they downgraded it a bit. Sadly the original scene got deleted, so no directors cut.
Unfortunately it happens in the worst way possible. Having intercourse in a prison cell right after your sister locked you in so she could go unalive herself is one of the most confusing tonal decisions I've ever experienced but people seem to forgive it cuz it's "beautiful" I guess.
It's kinda funny when you realize that Ekko's main business in season 2 was originally figuring out why his treehouse was dying, leading him to getting dropped into an alternate timeline and finding a way back, to then immediately having to save the entire world. The escalation of Ekko's to-do list is pretty hilarious.
"why the fuck is my plant dying do I need different soil?" to "oh hey I invented time travel because why the fuck not, also I need to save the world let's go"
Heimdeiger: "C'mon, Ekko, a quick 20 minute Heist into Pilltover's Lab to save your tree! What could possibly go wrong?" - MONTHS LATER - Ekko: "Oh God... Oh God this really went out of control quick! WHY AM I DOING THAT TO MYSELF WHY? Oh God... I need a vacation..."
Don't forget how he had to talk down a suicidal nihilist who kept blowing herself up right after having a nice and heartfelt date with a healthier version of her, vs meeting a different her at an absolute lowest of lows.
Can we just acknowledge that Singed just won Arcane? This absolute madlad sacrificed nothing, never really lost, never failed, played every side, cured death and got his daughter back. As far as I can remember Singed is the only parent and the only major antagonist to survive Arcane and bro did it start to finish. While everyone else was having trauma and character development like nerds, Singed was just chilling. This entire thing was just a smooth operation for him. He just cant stop winning.
Singed always be winning, bro was just doing science in a cave for like 90% of the show, says like 15 lines, makes some of the worst creations to ever grace runeterra cause tonnes of death and destruction, teams up with Silco, other chembarons, piltover and noxus to just noxus and after all of it he gets his daughter back and wins, truly the singma male grindset
I wouldn't say sacrificed nothing. He willingly sacrificed his humanity to save his daughter. And I wouldn't say he got away either. Caitlyn and Vi are pretty much in charge now and they're gonna be gunning for his ass as he's the only original antagonist left.
He is pretty much a Nazi scientist that did the deeds for the German side in the way and after become a director at NASA for the US side without anything "bad" happening to them besides having like a boot on their neck for some time but no real threat
I'm not very knowledgeable about league champion lore, but from what I do know, Singed basically being responsible, directly or indirectly, for like 75-90% of all the bad things and misery in the series, leading to lots of people suffering, only for him to seemingly achieve all his goals and escape scot-free seems very in character for him
Spoilers for the end: And all of that to retcon him into being Orianna's father (instead of some random tinkerer) actually had me laughing. One of the few retcons that I didn't mind. Don't get me wrong, having Arcane as _a_ reality instead of _the_ reality of LoL had me super excited and loving the changes, but with them going 'this is the game now' made me just roll my eyes.
After the show's finale, Necrit had an interview with Christian Linke (Co-creator of Arcane) where he cleared up a lot of the ambiguities surrounding the finale and the story in general. Some of the biggest takeaways we got were: - Jayce and Viktor are dead, completely erased by the rune along with the Hextech Anomaly. (Edit: others corrected that that the part of the statement regarding Jayce and Viktor was later taken back, and their fates are once again left unclear) - Hextech is not gone, someone else will eventually pick up the torch. - Jinx is heavily implied to be alive (Caitlyn looking the the Hexgate blueprints in the epilogue + a pink shimmer trail going off-scene before her bomb explodes) and likely left Piltover on the airship in the final shot (that is also a nod to the first episode where Powder said "one day, i'm gonna ride in one of those things"), going who knows where. - Donger isn't fully dead, as explored in another Yordle's (Vex's) story, they're spirits and can't truly die, and even if something were to happen to them, they simply reappear in Bandle City (the extradimensional home of the Yordles) after an indeterminate amount of time. - the Sesbian Lex scene was originally made with 0 input from Riot (fucking French people) and was even longer MORE explicit, which Riot ended up cutting out parts of. - Season 2's script was finalized before season 1 aired and the whole thing was meant to be complimentary to League's lore as an alternate timeline of sorts. This plan was then undermined when Riot decided to make Arcane THE canon story for the characters involved (Thanks Riot). - The next show will take place in either Demacia, Noxus or Ionia. - The main theme of Viktor's design is chrysalis, he emerges from a cocoon (twice), and in his final transformation, the mask splits his face in two to symbolize him shedding his humanity and all emotion I'm sure i missed some things, but that's the main gist of it.
I think Christian Linke said "its the end of Viktors and Jayces story" but Riot told him to take that back (which is good, they shouldnt die like that)
Christian Linke has since said that the statement that Viktor and Jayce died was cut and edited and got taken out of context and he ment for it to be completely unknown what happened to them. Quoting a response he made on Twitter: "I'm sorry for speaking the way I speak. In an interview. That's cut together from all sorts of out-of-context moments." which was later followed by: "lmao - well it's fair. Sometimes you get hit with questions that you didn't think you'd have to answer in a recorded interview and in the moment things are a bit awkward. Neither did they show me any of this before it went out. Alas" Thirdly: "There are things on the horizon that would keep their story going, but these projects are huge in scope, budget and required head count. Plus subjective, momentary creative execution makes or breaks the endeavors. So I cannot say for sure. Maybe. Maybe not. I wish I knew"
Season 2's script being finalised before season 1 aired just lends further credence to my theory that Netflix forced them to downsize at some point in its development, because man is season 2 riddled with unresolved threads, rushed conclusions and really weird character moments that just don't make sense whatsoever.
Linke's exact words were that Viktor and Jayce were "disintegrated". Take that how you will. Also, it's heavily implied the humanity of Vander or Skye are what allows Orianna to be "alive". Pretty sure there's some memory removal shenanigans going on there as well if that'd be the case.
27:25 Not just only is Vi dead and Hextech hasn't been invented. Silco has also read the letter from Vander and forgives him, therefore he won't team up with Singed and create the Shimmer together.
also kinda implies that Jayce is gone so either he did get banished this time because somebody died, or Viktor wasn't there to save him from that step too far
Im not entirely sureif thats confirmed but it would make sense. Something else important to note is that heimer arrived roughly 3 years before ekko in the alternative timeline. Because of that we can assume that heimer (through the piltovian council) gets deeply involved with the undercity in a peacefull way. So in the end it took forgiveness and understanding to make the world a better place. Who wouldve thought?
Question though. Why would Silco forgive Vander after he tried to kill him? Do we remember why they were estranged in the first place? Vander and Silco have fundamental issues with each other as people. Vander believes Silco is a ruthless opportunist who will escalate the conflict too far, and Slico believes Vander is a cowardly traitor who gave up on Zaun's revolution because he was too weak to stomach the reality. These are not issues you resolve with a letter. It would take a fundamental change in their character, like how Jinx changed Slico, to get that across.
I rewatched that explosion again. There is 100% Jinxes purple streak just before explosion. I think creators pulled on on us. She still broke the cycle. Everyone thinks she is dead so all grudges can start to heal.
@@modisp Caitlyn was also looking at the plans of the tower where Jinx fell at the end and found that there was a secret ventilation shaft in it. She was also holding a piece of Jinx's bomb and looking at it, it really made the scene feel like they haven't found her body and the bomb was the only thing they found so they're wondering where she is. Powder also mentioned in season 1 episode 1 that she would like to ride an airship one day, and the last shot of the show is an airship. I think it's basically 100% she's alive
@@modispI loved the concept that jinx wants to die but the world and fate keep refusing to let her die and I hope they would just keep playing on that. I hope it was actually Ekko or something else who saved her.
Viktor's design is great. His face being a perfect symmetrical halfway point of human and a faceless machine really is the perfect way to communicate that he's the midway point between order and chaos, machines and humanity.
Faceless mask does that already though. The only cool thing it does is having his human eyes closed and third (and fourth) eyes open, which can still be done with his old-school mask and not be goofy looking.
I wonder if this is a reference to some previous LoL lore. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a thing where a BUNCH of people got sick and were dying. Viktor was just like 'There's no cure but if I turn them into cyborgs I can save them'. Jayce thought Viktor was doing something very EVIL (and you could argue in order to save them he was violating their bodily autonomy) and basically destroyed all his machines essentially killing everyone Viktor was trying to save. My favorite thing about that whole previous lore thing was Jayce at the end was like 'Man Viktor must really hate me for what I did, he's probably prepping his revenge as we speak.' and Viktor was like 'Well that sucked, oh well I have other shit to do that doesn't involve Jayce breaking things'.
I would also like to point out the anti-magic runes that Rictus and Ambessa uses is an actual item in the game called Kaenic Rookern, which is a strong magic resist item, so neat little detail there.
Noxians have the same logic as the Mandalorians, specially while dealing with the Jedi they said something like this: "Oh, you can block lasers? Ok, have fun with this buckshot dickweed"
Yeah, I also remembered the Mandalorians seeing the Noxians. But not the virgin Mandalorians from Clone Wars and beyond, but the chad Mandalorians from the old EU that whoop the Republic and the Jedi Order's asses and made them their bitches, and not those broken and corrupted Republic and Jedi Order from the prequels, but on their absolute prime. In the last chapter of Arcane I though "damn, this will be the closest of the Mandalorian Wars beyond the comics that we'll gonna see"
In case someone missed it, The rune that Ekko worked with to develop the Z-Drive was inversing the Acceleration Rune he saw with Jayce's notes. The Rune that was given to Jayce was also the Acceleration Rune from future Viktor. So with the final scene what i can guess is that the acceleration of time rune on jayce and the reversal of time collided against Viktor and Jayce, creating the paradox that both takes them out and also achieves what the future Vik wanted. There is also the whole thing about the anomaly being wild magic whereas hextech is controlled magic, putting a rune on ascended Viktor is putting control on wild and creating another paradox. Dunno which one is the inevitable undoing that happens, but its what some could gleam from the notes and science explained in the show
Hmmm... you are brigging good point, i didnt even think about what those runes meant, which is a huge oversight of my part in this story. Which means... there is a chance both Viktor and Jayce are alive... i know that last moment felt pretty conclusive and having characters come back is grating, but... their "death" isnt exactly a monolith. If future Vik intention was to make his past self remember what their ideology truly mean, and this was te collision of the same rune "upright' and "inverted"... this could have just taken both out of the time stream for a time, and maybe they will come back. There is the whole thing with the canon of the story being jumbled still but that is a good detail to keep in mind.
46:13 Viktor broke out of his Arcane cocoon when he got patched up by Singed, that's how the Noxian fakeout was possible afterall. It's not too far fetched to think Singed swiped a sample of Viktor before Viktor left Zaun...so Singed was quietly reviving his daughter while everyone else was losing their free will.
90% sure there's actually a tiny bit where we see Singed drawing fluid out of Viktor's cocoon using the same injector he uses on Orianna's coffin/stasis chamber/thing.
For the new Viktor's face, I believe the point is to show his pursuit of the arcane and progress literally destroy his humanity. I'm not sure if you noticed, I don't think you mentioned it, but the flat, angular 'mask' face is tearing through his original one.
Nah jinx is definitely alive. You can see a purple streak coming out of the explosion. As well as catlin looking at the vents and the ending shot of an air balloon that jinx said she wanted to ride in
Yeah I am 100% on the "No body no kill" train. I would say the streak would be a stretch, if you didnt also see Cait toying with the leftover nade Jinx used while looking at tower blue prints and zooming in on airducts vents. And then ending the show with the Airship that Powder said she wanted to ride in the future, alll the way back in episode 1. Its a lot of "nah thats just a coincidence/thats a stretch, bro" for it to not be basically 100% yeah Jinx is alive and "walking away" to "built something new" as Silco and Ekko told her to. Is this copium? Maybe, but I aint changing my mind on it, because I was feeling fucking depressed at the end of the show. I am too soft for this kinda dour ending, so I am taking my bitter sweet ending over that depression bomb, thanks.
8:20 Graham McNeil (same person who gave us the Daemonculaba) was the Principal Narrative writer for the World building team at Riot up until recently so it's not surprising Arcane has Warhammer strokes painted into it, basically Necromunda, i.e. 9:06 The Sump.
It's possible they can't do the Marvel respawn hack because it's a Quantum Leap deal, not just teleportation. Ekko and Hiem don't step out of the wild rune, they take over their alternate selves. It's probably why Jayce ended up in purgatory: he nearly took the sewer slide in the OG timeline because he got kicked out of school. In the alternate, he'd be looking at prison time, AND would have recently killed a kid (which he isn't thrilled about on a good day), so there's probably no living Jayce to drive around. Once you're dead, you can no longer show back up in your universe. Boring Powder can hop over to Jinx (who isn't dead, as others have pointed out) but you can't get Chill Silco coming in to make her feel better.
Seeing Powder (mostly) unburdened by trauma for a whole episode was so many things. Catharsis to see the character you love be safe and happy. To highlight the beaty still buried within Jinx. To curse the slowmotion trainwreck the show so beautifully paints.
s2 is the perfect example of a season that needed at least one more episode, if not a whole extra act, to properly tie all the loose threads together. i'm still really upset that the whole piltover vs zaun conflict just kinda ceased to exist after act1 of s2. also, it's *very* heavily implied that jinx survived the explosion at the end. you can see a purple streak rush away just a few frames before the detonation, caitlyn looking at the air ducts in the hexgate plans, and the airship being the very last scene, when powder's first proper sentence in s1e1 was "one day i'm gonna ride in one of these"
Something I wanna point out between Act 1 and Act 2 specifically: In Act 1 of season 2, there is little to no blood. Sure, Smeech gets murdered and Jayce bleeds at the memorial, but that’s about it. Season one had more blood than the entire first act of season 2. And I think the reason for this is Warwick, given his whole thing is smelling the scent of blood and going on a tear. So when we see him in episode 4, it is SHOCKING how much blood got spilled, as if the very presence of Warwick in the story upped the age rating for the season. It’s a great touch.
@@tenacityxl it's a shame Warwick was absolutely squandered by the second season. The first time we really see him he's accompanied by jarring metal music that undermines the abject terror the perspective characters are feeling in the scene. This creative decision was obviously done for external reasons - namely the writers feeding into the "clap for Warwick" fan hype. What's funny is that even the whole "isn't Warwick badass?" thing, and his characterization as a blood thirsty beast, are immediately undermined by him recognizing jinx and reasserting the Vander persona. Past that point both "cool" Warwick and bestial Warwick are both gone. Both are pretty much dropped so that the writers can regurgitate a worse version of the "daughters losing their father(s)" tragedy played out in the first season.
i think it may be important to tell you that what you said at 46:06 is just a misunderstanding, Singed was telling Ambessa that the cure for death would require Viktor to merge with Vander, the result of which would provide a cure for death--at the time Viktor wasn't necessarily going to live nor was necessarily going to merge with Vander/Warwick (more specifically Warwick as this was the point of all the "specimens"). That's why he clarified this to Ambessa with that statement, Viktor had to live and merge with Warwick without Viktor assimilating Warwick (which was what was actively going on). So, TL;DR Viktor didn't have to live, Viktor had to live long enough to cooperate, which he did. The result of that cooperation is what presumably cures Oriana, and also explains why she's a Arcane/Viktor style robot rather than the clockwork robot in the game.
@2:45 What are you talking about? The classism was a huge part of the show, and them not doing more with it, just kind of saying its fixed now, is part of what brought season 2 down for me.
It quite clearly wasn't fixed (a literal hostile take over of Zaun in act 1, destroying the hippie commune giving people hope in act 2, Zaun sacrificing as much blood as piltover and getting a single council seat for it in act 3). It just wasn't the main driver of conflict since bigger fish have come as a common enemy for piltover/zaun.
27:25 Considering Vi died from a hex crystal explosion, Jayce's sentence for tinkering with arcane was most likely much harsher, meaning what in this universe he is either exiled, imprisoned or dead. Yippie I guess?
Was I the only person to feel confused how caitlyn never seemed to have any consequences for using the equivalent of mustard gas during a exenteded special military policing operation in a population dense city? And that VI was perfectly okay with that?
@@patatequiroule There absolutely should be consequences. For example when they prepare for the big battle, Caitlin should be asked "Why would we help you, you gassed us".
Its more like teargas. They literally show the main short term side effect of it is tearing, eye redness, and snot pouring out of your nose. Long term consequences aren't as clear, but the zaunites being exposed to chronic low doses of the stuff all their lives probably means they get those regardless anyways.
The biggest thing that got me with this show was that there was barely a denumount. Like the final battle happens and then there's a slideshow with cait talking over it like some fallout out game. I would've like to see like an extra 5 or ten minutes of some good resolution and talking from the other characters as well as a the rebuilding effort.
really, my only gripe with the show is that it really needed a season 3. i know the producers said there was never a season 3 planned, but i think that was a mistake. because in the end, the biggest problem with season 2 is that there was too much plot for 9 episodes.and that led to arcs underdeveloped, moments tonally not landing, and on and on. it really just needed another season, so that they could end season 2 somehwere earlier and actually flesh it out more.
I disagree with there being a Season 3. However, I agree with everything else you said. Instead, I propose that they simply added 1 extra episode to each arc in the season. These extra three episodes would do a lot as a lot of what we are shown is done via quick recaps at the start of the episode (exp. The Chembaron War) when it could be a full episode and show what everyone in the under city is doing. Another example of where they could make another episode is the Zuan occupation and make it a bit more interesting. Just my thought about it
@@CaptainKillroy i can understand that. that would have also been a good idea. just anything to give more time to actually highlight the plot points that were made instead of rushing through them.
@@rudelwolf1591 Arcane Season 2 "The Slaughter of the Side Characters" (that were introduced this season). And what ticks me off is that other side characters like Huck (the first guy that got cured by Victor) got so much screen time. He got cured, became the greeter, and then was the Mannequin that attacked Jayce and Mel in the council room (notice the necklace and shoulder piece). Like, this one guy gets so much screen time and then we have Zander (VI's friend who's name I can't remember), all the Chembarons that could have been cool, and Cailtylns Strike Team. Tldr: any of the new side characters they introduced should have been shown more. (I wanted more Smeech. He was funny)
Just my humble thoughts. I wonder if there is a big risk of losing momentum and especially surprise effects by giving too many clues to a story (yes, I know film experts like to predict the story and want to be right). To me, it seems better to surprise and give the explanation afterward. Or just leave it to the audience's imagination (or fan stories). Not to mention the additional video of Ambessa that gives her a fascinating backstory. Or the 3 mini-games where you can fill in some of the "unwritten" scenes yourself. Also, there will be a novel about Ambessa in a few weeks. I would also like to mention that many - if not all - of the songs tell a story or give meaning to a scene. And there is a lot of "show, don't tell": gestures and facial expressions, things in the background, hidden frames. And of course they had to leave something to tell for the next show (Black Rose, Singed, Orianna, Mel, Swain, etc.?). The statement that everything is said and done with Arcane is of course not true. haha
@@mullworm i am gonna be honest, i don't really know what your point is, and i think you misunderstood what i was complaining about. i don't mind setting up other shows, and i definitely appreciate the show don't tell arcane manages sometimes. but my point was that the story arcane season 2 told was just not fleshed out enough in the actual episodes. my point is that ( SPOILERS) caitlyns descent into tyranny, while understandable, is still jarring, just as her seeing vi and suddenly deciding to backstab ambessa is too. in both of those cases, i can absolutely understand the intention behind it, but it seems too sudden, and not explained well enough, therefore not in character. additionally, as bricky pointed out, some parts are just glossed over for the sake of progressing the plot, but therefore missing out on cool moments and arcs that could have been there. the chem barons for example, but also caitlyn and vi's special gas squad. it is fine as it is, but it could have been more. And that is my biggest problem with season 2: it was absolutely "fine", "great" even, but it could have been more if they had taken the time to slow down. i mean, the season has like 6 time jumps? and almost none of them actually tell you how much time has passed, or even gave you a rough estimate. like, i don't need a perfect answer, but give me some rough estimate so i can understand how much time has passed.
Sorta yeah, I don't even remember if he ever considered himself a "redeemer" or whatever Jesus Viktor does. I think he was an inventor from Zaun that has a frienemy relationship with Jayce. Also Glorious Evolution! But I see why they added more to his character and I do absolutely adore the bromance between the two. I wish we got Dr.Doom Viktor and an army of half augmented cybernetic and shimmer boosted gangsters and underlings. All characters generally have been made to have a group of followers of some kind since then card game was released.
Viktor's character is a mess. Riot can't decide if he's a mecha-hitler techpriest or a misunderstood man who just wants to help the people. He flip-flops constantly. Here at least there's a continuous line of thought that actually touches upon both of those ideas, even if aesthetically it goes more into bio-mech/eldritch stuff.
@@totty5357 He always was a bit of tech jesus because of Glorious Evolution!, but it was less on the nose. He still thought that augmentation was the way of the future because of it being uplifting for everyone and really wanted to help, he just had that 'I know what's right, trust me.' mentality without Jayce's charisma. On the other hand, Jayce was more of a Jobs type character, all charisma next to no actual talent that annoyed Victor to no end, which _really_ tweaked Victor when Jayce stopped him every time with effectively his own inventions, slightly modified.
@@flailingdragoon1072 Riot has struggled to write the viktor/jayce conflict since the get go, they've tried so many different angles, but I think the Arcane one is the strongest. I'd argue that the hexcore was the reason for this path, in the sense that viktor's desire to heal, fix, unify, etc. zaun, was corrupted by the arcane. It could be that the hexcore has some form of sentience, (perhaps when it consumed skye, as she's the one that he's interacting with in that astral mindspace) and was using viktor as a puppet/vessel, putting viktor in a position where he can facilitate the hexcore's needs (human souls I guess) or its just caused viktor to transcend/change how he sees and interacts with the world, and sees this as the best and only way to use his "gift"/powers to make true of his ideals. Also giving Jayce's title of "Protector of Tomorrow" some actual weight and meaning, instead of being a superman reference, by showing him the "tomorrow" that would come if he doesn't stop Viktor. Its a shame more of the nuance gets lost from the stakes of their conflict being raised. yes both characters are flawed, but when you have to choose between robot apocalypse or everything being the same, Jayce gets to be the hero and viktor the villian. instead of just being able to agree they both kinda suck/are very childish
Bricky's takes are fascinating-- they come from a place that is so foreign to how I understand storytelling, but I can see his chain of reasoning. It's sort of the end point of the TV Tropes style of media criticism, combined with a kind of shonen battle anime power scaling, while shrugging at character developments that aren't directly plot advancing.
Ep7 is absolutely NOT filler and NOT "side quest" (personal bias) because it explains and validated motivations for Jayce and Ekko which pay off in the finale.
@@revolversnake126 I honestly think it would be poetic to not list ep 7 as ep 7 because it happens in a different universe, and having an extra episode in act 3 to help shore up the pacing could have been a great artistic touch. then have the finale release the following week with maybe like 10-15 mins more footage of the fight to really highlight the climax.
It was absolutely filler. The alternate time line has absolutely nothing to do with Ekko's motivations. And Jayce being trapped in a hole eating rats for weeks added absolutely nothing to his character in the long run.
@CannibalShinobi (1) Same Ekko who witnessed and learnt about forgiveness in ep.7 when he saw Silco and Vander together and witnessed the harmonic paradise Zaun + Piltover could be. A lesson Ekko learnt to forgive Jinx for k!ll!ng members if his Firelights crew. (2) You also COMPLETELY IGNORED the conversation between Ekko and alternate Jinx/ Powder where Ekko admitted he gave up on her and only saw the errors of Zaun to which alternate Jinx/ Powder responded she never seen him give up on anything. AND the statement "sometimes taking a step forward mean leaving some things behind". Another lesson that compliments and compounds on point (1). (3) You also COMPLETELY IGNORED the value of Ekko saving Jinx from offing herself multiple times using the TIME REWIND device. He kept trying many different conversations in each rewind to persuade Jinx, never giving up until he succeeded. A lesson about never giving up and inner strength. This also became VERY important when Ekko was able to resist Viktor's mindmeld just enough to make that last move which freed both Jayce and damaged Godmode Viktor giving Jayce the opportunity to make Viktor SEE, understand and change the error of his arcane ambitions. For all we know Ekko kept using that time device repeatedly in unite he successfully united Zaun to join the war. All these above 3 factors contributed greatly to Ekko's character development, motivations and his efforts. It is NOT difficult to deduce that Ekko used all the above 3 factors to persuade and unite Zaun towards joining the war which ultimately led to Piltover accepting Zaun to join the leadership council where both factions (Zaun and Piltover) can discuss all grievances towards amicable harmonic solutions for both sides. (4) Given all the above, the way i see it... Zaun joined the war BECAUSE OF EKKO not because of Jinx because Ekko is the idealist, optimist and LITERALLY a community manager NOT Jinx Jinx has NEVER should interest in power or leadership. The Jinxers adored Jinx's rebelliousness against Topside/ Piltover but none of them knew anything about Jinx offing Silco nit even Sevika who also developed a partnership with Jinx. As much as we wanted to see all this on screen, all were can very easily be sufficiently deduced and surmised from what is provided building on Ekko's journey in episode 7 and Ekko's efforts saving Jinx in the beginning of episode 9.
Immortal can mean many things. Immortal can mean they don't die of old age but can still be killed, or it can mean they cant die of any cause, i believe the case with yorldes is the former.
@@TheXientist In the "main canon" of league, which is very messy right now since they just kinda threw in the bomb of Arcane being canon and closed the door, Yordles are immortal in the sense that we don't know of a single instance of one dying from old age and in the way that they literally respawn when killed. Or "their spirit re-form" is the official description I think. They're more like spirits which have taken humanoid form or something along those lines. They also get heavily influenced by their surroundings due to their spirit nature which is why we got giga nerd Heimer at the Piltover academy and malicious creature looking guy on the chembaron council. There's even a super depressed yordle in league who keeps trying to end herself but keeps respawning which just makes her more depressed. Weirdly morbid in a way. But the lore is in a weird place rn, so I can't 100% guarantee that this is considered canon by all the writers at riot. There's also the fact that all of this can be true and Heimer can still be dead. It's not like he got stabbed or something, he was atomized in another dimension/timeline. His spirit could forever be lost in limbo between dimensions or something making him effectively permanently dead. Or he could "respawn" in that dimension, making him "dead" in the main universe. So I would consider him dead for now, no matter what the lore says about yordles.
Compared to this season which goes in circles and tries to show us the healing power of a random kid on a psychopath, I much preferred the first one. And not sure what he means by heavy handed when that's basically the story of Piltover and Zaun.
Jinx has proven that, mfers really complaining about the scene where Ekko talks her down "just for her to die anyway" got me genuinely tweaking. Media literacy's body is ice cold.
@@JowoeBunchaNumbers That scene was more destructive to who Ekko was, as he stops her, because he liked a mentally stable not filled with Shimmer version of her in a different dimension. Are we forgetting the painted wall of faces, most of which were put there because of Jinx?
@@JowoeBunchaNumbers My biggest problem with that Scene is that most of it happens off screen. The whole zhaun thung gets resolved off screen and the conflict with Piltover is just... Forgotten about? Nothing really changed after the battle ended, the differences and problems were still there.
Jinx lives, before the explosion you can see the purple line from the shimmer dash, also Caitlyn is looking at the schematics of vents where jinx fell and the final shot of the air blimp similar to the one kid jinx said she wanted to go on AND "the end" written in jinx style. And the whole idea of walking away from the cycle of violence
@@NotVeryUwUofYouunless they changed it I don't think himer died there cuz he's a yordel, because if I am remembering the lore right when a yordel's physical body dies they just go back to brandel city which is in the spirit relm, I think I am a little rusty on the lore
If it wasn't for episode 7 existing, I would have said that this whole season was a pretty notable downgrade from season 1 of Arcane. But episode 7 is such a beautiful piece of media, it's absolute perfection. From storytelling, editing, voice acting, character relations, imagery, cinematography, music, animation... EVERYTHING was just perfect. The juxtaposition of Jayce going through literal hell and both Ekko and Heimerdinger stepping into heaven are both sides of the same coin, a "what could've been" for both scenarios. And they are paced so well, both realities rip our hearts in different ways and give ultimate purpose for two of my favorite characters in Ekko and Jayce. One major gripe I have with the finale and overall second season is that I really hoped the show gave us as the audience, a moment for Ekko and Jinx to bond before the final battle or even at all. They didnt have a single normal conversation in the whole series despite being depicted close as kids. Why omit a moment like that? What a shame. All in all great video and review man! Keep up the great work.
Arcane and sensual scenes are so uncomfortable and funny when you think about em. The contrast of Jayce and Mel climaxing vs Viktor fucking dying and being reborn. Vi, the hot headed single minded gal that has been doing nothing but chase after Jinx/Powder in one way or another is let out of the jail said Jinx/Powder trapped her in and the first thing she does is smash Caitlyn. That cell probably smelled awful too, Jinx's crusty ass wasn't moving from the same spot and her greasy ass hair was all over the place and there was not a toilet in sight, oh and THAT'S THE CELL JINX WAS IN like idk it's a weird location to smash in, the same place your sister was locked in.
At least Jayce/Viktor scenes was in contrast. Like one is having good time and other is fucking dying. Prison cell is the stupidest place to "have a moment".
Jayce "When the Hextech core was born, it was a guided missile towards the newborn" Talis Jayce "Not just the men, but the women and children as well" Talis Jayce "It's not a chore when I do it with my hextech core" Talis Jayce "Hextech is the hammer, Zaun is the nail" Talis
20:30 but we do know why Mel's there, her "brother" tells her exactly why he was taken and why she was next. 48:00 Mel, they were after Mel. She was critical to both stop Ambessa and the calamity brewing from Viktor, and as a potential recruit. Mel turned the tables on them by using them to defeat her mother but also taking up Ambessa's mission because they are the ones responsible for her brother's death. As for Jinx, Cait is looking at ventilation shafts in the Hexgate chamber where Jinx was last seen. In the beginning of Ep 1 of Season 1, Powder looks at the airship and says "I'm gonna ride on one of those one day." You can look at that being foreshadowing for episode 4 of Season 1, but also at the very end with the Jinx style "end" card.
Animation: Yes 100 Story: What the? Why? What is happening? Did they forget half of the show? Season 1 had many story bits that were meh but Season 2 just breaks every 2 seconds. There aren't only 2 episodes mixing. There are like 6 to 12 episodes missing. The development of Fishman, Wallguy and Redhead. Strike Team hunting Jinx. The battle over Noxus. And so on and so on.
If you watch it with your eyes open and your hands out of your ears, the story is actually not that complicated! Maybe try it again, we all start somewhere bestie. You'll get to a kindergarten level of media literacy eventually, don't worry!
Bricky, there is a LOT of heavy hints that jinx isn't dead. Heimerdinger isn't dead either because canonically yordles can't die. They reappear at bandle city
To explain what happened to Jayce and Viktor at the end: They're on their honeymoon in the stone, the episode just wrapped up before they returned. Source: It was revealed to me in a vision
The few problems I have with S2 of Arcane are very similar to the ones I had coming from GoW18 to Ragnarok. The tight focus that just made it so immaculate made room for a more expansive yet lesser experience. Still good.
"Danm Jayce, does the hammer has a heat seeking missile or is their some prejudice we should know about ?" You're one to talk Mr. Roundhousing a poor kid in a mall
Don't forget the "Gray". It got the Zaunites freaked out beyond believe, was used by Cait to terrorise them and it's just completly abandoned by the plot.
The gray was never a threat, this problem has been solved by the vents a long time ago. Cait using it to chase after Jinx mostly serves to show how her hatred has made her willing to make life in Zaun even more difficult for the residents (and also gives us more cool scenes).
@@patatequiroule the gray was never "solved", it was simply bottled up on lower levels of zaun far lower than what we see on the show, every shot of zaun that Arcane depicted was the higher and "prettier" levels of zaun, the tip of the iceberg of sorts, that is the entire reason for zilco monologing with the chembarons about the luxury of fresh air that they have, the vents do help but there is still a constant stream of smog on pretty much 70% of zaun due to the chemtech factories underground
Thank you for calling out that ending. It felt extremely rushed and left a lot of open questions a little too much. As someone who has never played League Mel plot came out of nowhere and left a very bad taste of my mouth just dumping that fact about her out of nowhere. They don’t even care to explain exactly what happens to the under city. do they succeed or do they officially join the council? Overall, I really enjoyed the season, but this is definitely worse than season one just because of that ending dragged it down.
@ so you’re honestly telling me you didn’t think the ending wasnt rushed? I’m just saying, I think the show could’ve really benefited from an extra episode.
I don't think season 2 is a masterpiece like season 1 the last few episodes felt rushed it seems like the show needed an extra 2-3 episodes. but all in all i do think it was really great to borderline amazing. its just those last 2 episodes i wasn't that big of a fan of except for Vi and Cait of course.
Viktor's mask is supposed to be splitting his face apart (you can even see it tearing out of his head at the end of Episode 8). Quite literally shedding his humanity to become this stone cold, emotionless, inhuman face. I actually think it's a really cool design. I do agree they could've made him more cyborg-ish though. Specially now that they're adapting that design to League. You wouldn't even have to change that much, really. Just make it so that instead of the hexcore making his body all weird spacey purple it takes nearby metal and reshapes it to his body (which is kinda what he does to his followers). He goes through very similar plot points as lore Viktor, it's just the aesthetics that are completely different.
I 100% agree this Season needed and extra episode of time: -Add a Little bit more to Jinx and put the cut Jinx+Ekko scene and have them rally up Zaun in the end, with Sevika saying she's proud of Jinx finally being the symbol Zaun needed -Add a Little bit more to Cait's betrayal (tbh there was the "the things we do for love" line from Singed, but a Little bit more would have helped) -Explain Viktor's philosophy change a bit more -Make Ep.9 a Standalone Ending episode And Season 2 becomes a 10/10. It's SO CLOSE, all the pieces are there, the story just needed a Little bit more time.
In my head, I feel like the season would have done well if they added an extra episode to each of the arca to fill them out a bit more. Show the Chembaron Civil War or the Zuan occupation better then just... A song recap (don't get me wrong, I love "Sucker" and the visuals behind it are great, just wish I could have seen more of it).
When I saw it, I *immediatly* Google-search "RWBY Black Rose" in Image section... I found it fairly quickly. From "Description Sheet" it provided, apparently it's Ruby but her mother is Salem... and all of Team RWBY listed as sisters(I didn't look too deep, so seek it yourself if curios).
Why did it heal you? It happened so fast that any bit of actual tension of "can we bring him back" is gone. And Isha is an overly dramatised plot device that exists to make other characters do things, because they couldn't be bothered to give Jinx a motivation this season.
@@doxkowalski915 My man, take a chill pill. The vid's been out for an hour and you are all over the comments section. We get it, you are upset with season 2, but that clouds your judgement. Personally, I enjoyed S1 more than S2, yet that means I am all the more interested as to others opinions. As I said before, take a breath and enjoy someone else's viewpoint. It's much more enjoyable to ENJOY stuff.
@@latlatko No, you see, because they parroted the red letter media meme they've shown that their media literacy card is bigger than the people who enjoy the show.
17:45. There’s no way. The double meaning of the “powder that makes you say real” and the Powder character in arcane is too funny. Was that deliberate?
I was personally very disappointed with the season, Cait's turn into a dictator felt pointless, because we just jump straight to her doubting Ambessa's manipulation, Vander's ressurection was pointless because they just killed him again for good (peesonality-wise at least, I'm sure his mutated body still lives), Black Rose stuff was handled very awkwardly, Vi lost all agency, Viktor's storyline devolved into Marvel supervillain multiverse slop that is popular nowadays. But the one thing I can't forgive is the complete absense of the social themes that were driving the plot in season 1. Why did Zaun even fight for Piltover against the Noxians and Viktor at the end? Why did they even come to Jayce's meeting? The heart of what made season 1 great was sadly missing in this installement, and the whole thing felt super rushed. I am still interested in what Fortiche is going to do in the future, but I will now have to manage my expectations and not hope for anything.
The problem with Arcane 2 is that they are still trying to set up for the next project instead of giving out answer and closure, also they could have added 1 more episode after 8 to show the struggle between Zaun/ Piltover on learning how to forgive before joining hand for the big finally. Other than that the show is a solid 9.
Vi was on her knees in a jail cell eating out klukluxKiramann After spending years oppressing Zaun, literally gassing civilians, police brutality, and mass incarceration. What did piltover do to deserve their help? One single seat on the council? Outnumbered 5 to 1?
also, if anybody doesn't speak french: the song in the Episode 7 dance scene roughly translates to Runaway by Kanye West. Jokes aside the song's title translates literally to "My best enemy" and something like "My dearest enemy" as a more intended translations. The general theme of the lyrics is "you're the best thing to ever happen to me & you're the worst thing to ever happen to me." The idea that most of the audience probably doesn't understand the song actually works really nicely in the sense of "Jinx is having a really great night with his boyfriend? crush? and Ekko is having the most emotionally conflicting moment of his life". Even if it's not intended.
@@learningeveryday365 Yeah, I'm like 80% sure that's the case. The only thing that gives me pause is that Fortiche (the animation studio that made Arcane) is french, so it could be like "yeah we know the people for this".
I might be wrong about this but in some versions of Warwick's lore I think it's mentioned that he originally looked slightly more human before going full animal after being abandoned by Singed so his look in Arcane could be a nod to that
On the subject of episode 7, one of my FAVORITE things about that entire episode upon reflecting back on it was the realization of how well it worked with the ending. There was so much implicit story telling in the world. Vi died because of the hextech accident. Well, the implication is that Jayce and Viktor died. Which is WHY those two weren't seen there, or in Jayce's case, why he got whisked away on the timeline with Jayce. It REALLY highlights the beauty of what Viktor said to Jayce at the top of the tower in the timeline where he succeeded. ".... Only You." It ties into their story so well. There is no other way this could have gone for them. And in the case of Viktor seemingly being omnipotent, he's not, he can only see into the timelines where he's alive. Which means for the timeline that Ekko and Heimerdinger got sent to, he cannot see. It explains why 'our' Viktor we see in the moment of performing his "Great Evolution" ritual is so confident. So sure of this outcome, because there is no other timeline that he can see. And it ties into just how.... Human he is. Harking back to Jayce's line of "All of your flaws made you who you are," which ultimately led to his future self from stopping himself. I LOVE episode 7 so much. It does the whole "what if" narrative amazingly well. You can be certain that the writers spent a solid week just thinking about how this world would work. There's even the strong implication that without hextech, Piltover eventually started depending on Zaun for the inventors and genius talent that was there (probably because of Heimerdinger). It just KEEPS GOING
Idk how much league you play, but what's interesting is that anti-magic item was an item added to league sometime in the last couple years, Kaenic Rookern, the bane of my existence as a mage player.
Funny enough, back in season 1 episode 1 i asked myself "how did V just make it out of that room without a scratch after clearly getting blasted in the face?" and now we kinda know. Its pretty cool that the death of a child who tried to steal something in order to have slightly better living conditions for herself and family would be a convincing argument to both "ban hextech" and "ending the bad blood between the cities". Putting so much philosophical value on the death of a child is also a jab at our modern times in general, where not even a thousand dead children are enough to sway leaders towards peacefulness.
I actually chucked it up to Heimer being stuck there for years to fix shit top side, and Vi death being a catalyst to get Silko to talk to Vander and stabilize bottom, while having no Ambessa to come for hextech and aggravate conflict. Martyr children are never enough to affect change untill someone gets to benefit from their passing, after all.
To be honest the season two felt like a step down in narrative quality for me at the long run. I did like most of the story beats, if not all of them, but it felt rushed. It felt like the narrative board had all the ideas they wanted to end the show at, but writers that worked on episodes 1 and 2 were suddenly replaced with completely new people for 3 and 4, and that trend continued until episodes 6, 7, 8 and 9. We go from the existence of Piltover's Finest in Zaun creating terror by closing the air ducts and beating everyone, into the literal disbandment of that same squad so Vi and Caitlyn can fight Jinx in 30 minutes. That same episode ending with Jinx and Vi getting a falloff, and in the next Jinx is all about her love for Vi. I feel that season two could have been stretched into a Season 3 and gotten better for it, pacing was very weird.
I love Viktor's evolved form in Arcane. The way they show his face splitting shows how he's shedding his humanity figuratively and literally. His new face forms an arrow pointing up emerging from his human face now "dead". Its the ideology/obsession taking over him. He has become so obsessed with progress that he has discarded everything to become the literal embodiment of progress (arrow pointing up). And the final episode is him ascending Piltover's tower with Jayce, ending up with Jayce being dragged by force Viktor. Viktor's new form is absolute peak for me, the more I thunk about it the more I love it
I think the whole ending thing with Viktor and Jayce can be explained best by a paradox. Viktor never went through with it, so he couldn't have gone back to give Jayce his Hextech crystal. Likely, the world didn't want to implode because of this paradox, so instead, it localized its clean up to Jayce, Viktor, and the puppets.
I gotta say, even tho i enjoyed the video a lot, you missed a ton of personal feelings of the characters to give room to the big stuff that happened on the show. and in Arcane especially, those personal feelings are everything. they give meaning to every single act of every single character. it's a shame that more than half of the fanbase ignores these little but very much important details and say haha jinx go off herself but vi had sesbian lex. Even though, yes, those little details were sometimes too little for the majority of people to pick up on, and it's the showrunner's fault for cramming SO MUCH stuff into one season and not giving room to explain and explore it fully. lovely video tho Bricky as always.
Season 2 was such a fucking let down. The quality of writing, character work and pacing was tossed out the window for spectacle. I showed Season 1 to my wife and her sister, who are both normies, and they thought it was amazing. When we started to watch season 2 my sister-in-law said "wow, this is terrible. its like it was written by someone else." and my wife said "season one felt like a story. Season 2 feels like a commercial.". my wife also joked "watching you face during Season two, your expression was like that one time i said i wanted a divorce." and honestly season 2 was even more of a let down than that. And while my wife and i worked out our issues, Season 2 didn't. it was shit from the word go and never got better only worse. i have a feeling it will be used as an example in writing classes in the future. The Professor will have the class watch s1 and write an essay on what it did write and then an essay on S2 on how it did everything wrong. Besides the art there is nothing redeeming about it.
The fact that there are no meme of "Victor did nothing wrong or Jayce did nothing wrong" going around is a good confirmation for me that Arcane ss2 is not good enough like ss1. I really want to see moral dilemma of wanting create a better world between this ex-couple. Arcane 2 left me disappointed. Truly inglorious regression.
Because it fundamentally isn't an interesting question. We see the consequences of Viktor's plan and it's shit. Even if we didn't we'd still have reason to be against it. If it was a mix of "how far is too far" when pressed with a real threat, say the Noxians trying to conquer the city, that would have been interesting. Arcane's version of the NGE ending just isn't.
The appearance of the Black rose and the Commando under Caitlyn were moments that for me, as not-LoL player, felt like they were made specific for LoL fans. Characters appearing in Attires similar to their in-game representation and the appearance of the black rose, without naming them. Those scenes were good imo, just in different ways depending on if you know the lol lore and played the game or not.
I felt like the introduction of the black rose was too league player specific too. I had (and still have) NO IDEA what was going on with them besides some spooky sorcerer(s?) who Ambessa probably made a deal with at some point and are also maybe slightly less evil than Ambessa?
After the afterglow of recently watched show I got hit by post-watch clarity. The story was a mess. The show really needed a whole season, maybe more to flash out every plot point. As is now, it feels clipped and messy. And there is only so much you can tell storywise with hidden 25th frame, so there is not many reasons to dissect every scene. Arcane had everything, but its story needed time. Which is ironic when you think that the finale climax is solved with a goddamn time paradox.
@@GrooveBot766creators confirmed they always wanted to have it be 2 seasons. No clue how true that is in their hearts but seems to me like they just wanted to be done with it to get to Noxus.
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 There's internal rumors that say originally it was envisioned as a 5 season series, how true that is I can't say. What I can say is two seasons were clearly not close to enough needed to tell the story of just these characters.
Bricky you always bring ME BACK. I end up re-watching your videos every couple months, even though I'm not a fan of half the shit you talk about because you're just so entertaining.
I'm on lethal dose of copium, but Riot said that 'this is the end of Arcane story'. The show is called Arcane, not Sisters of the Undercity. Arcane storyline, as in, Viktor and Jayce dealing with the arcane magic and the anomaly beneath the city. They didn't say this is the end of Piltover and Zaun story, there is still soooo much more they can do, so maybe we will get some more in the future. New chem-barons in Zaun like Urgot and Renata, Ekko dealing with those new chem-barons that are hurting the city, maybe with the help of Zeri. Camille maybe discovers a new way to make and use hextech that is dangerous, but in a different way. Maybe Seraphine can sense something is wrong but nobody listens to her. Orianna dealing with the circumstances of her life and what had to happen for her to be alive. Vi and Cait can be used for many different sotrylines. And of course they can just introduce original characters and make a story around them. There is still stuff they can do
Bricky it's so relatable how prone you are to League of Legends gaming relapse just like we are. 52:31 I admire you for being so vulerable on camera like that
I have to say bricky, great vid, I do really prefer this style of video (like you on screen) rather than what you have been trying to do recently, I feel this style is a lot more dynamic and expressive as physical gesture and facial expression really help bring the viewer along. Perhaps if you still want to try the other style, I suggest you do not change the microphone as I often feel like the transition between the two is "ruff", best regard
Just a few things Bricky may have missed or didn't have time to go over, SPOILERS (duh) 1. Jinx is alive, over the series, contact with hextech, crystals and or shimmer have given her a sort of super speed and there is a big focus on it in Season 2 she uses it against Warwick and Rictus and it leaves behind a pink trail, we see one of these trails leave the explosion at the end of episode 9 and in the epilogue Caitlyn is looking at Jayce's schematics for the hex gate and it zooms into it's ventilation system, implying she escaped through there The final scene of Arcane is an airship flying into the horizon, an almost exact recreation of the first time we see one in season 1, in which Powder says, she'll ride one someday. 2. Pretty much everyone else is also probably still alive, I know, I'm sorry, muh consiquences, but not a single major death in season 2 was "clean" Ambessa collapses after Black Rose magic shenanigans, we don't really know what's happened to her, it wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly WHY Mel is off to Noxus now Warwick already survived a much bigger explosion in episode 6, and fell directly into a Hexgate, so, he's just out there somewhere now. Jayce and Viktor disappear into the Arcane, but again, that doesn't mean much, half the cast have disapeared in magic by this point and come back Similarly, Heimerdinger got "vaporised" but they were working specifically on a machine to trancend realities, and again, literally not the first time magic has made him disapear, maybe Heimerdinger founds Bandlecity in this new canon, which is the magical city of Yordles that exists between worlds As Brickdaddy said in his conclusion, this isn't really an ending, there's more shows to come, so while Arcane IS finished this world and it's characters are not, Mel WILL be in Noxus, Singed may be in Ionia, we just gotta wait a few more years for the next batch of misery 😅
Jayce and Viktor are confirmed dead as per Christian Linke. Also weord they'd have a funeral thing for Ambessa if she's just rose-coma'd. And don't say it's for Rictus because he already had a funeral.
writers did confirm that all of these are actual deaths after the ending. The only one that they leave as a "we will see" explicitly is Jinx. Watch ARCANE AFTERGLOW: ACT 3 in the stillwatchingnetflix channel
I will add to that with a bit of speculative lore for Ambessa, her champion teaser "blood sweat and tears" seems to imply that she is an Aspect of Kindred (translation : she is blessed and kinda inhabited by Death itself) which would allow her to realistically resurect lorewise even if she died.
Ambessa was genuinely fantastic. Her feelings for Cait and Mel as a mother figure was just so well done. It's almost easy to miss that Cait represents everything she wishes Mel was, and their scenes together are both of them replacing their missing family members. Her pride at Caitlyn taking the killshot against her. "Bold, little one." She's so fucking proud of the killer she made. Her accepting the challenge to shut up and fight with that proud little smile. It's funny that you mention Silco, because both of them meet their downfall the same way.
Fun little visual thing I’m 99% sure the creators did on purpose but I haven’t seen anything official confirming it the final battle the no name soldiers on both sides were literally red and blue minions!
Don’t worry about not remembering their names. Maddie is slightly less forgivable because she gets a few lines and is namedropped a few times. Loris is named as such in his subtitles, but he gets two lines until episode 8 when Vi names him Steb is not named throughout the entirety of the show, and has now lines for him to have his name appear in subtitles. We only know he’s called Steb because of teamfight tactics
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You missed the cliffhanger at the end of the last episode
Caitlin is literally looking at Jinx' escape route, then we get a pan out scene where an airship flies into the horizon and jinx cuts the film
*We never see who is on the airship, and they never show us*
@Bricky You can never be "too preachy" in regards to classism and no it really wan't preachy at all, more lib-centrist if anything any anti preachy.
Really strange take Bricky.
Edge runners in my opinion is better then arcane , but maybe I’m wrong
Im not prudish about smexy scenes, but that was just crammed in there in the only place they could find that remotely worked. And honestly it just didn't work. They could have used that time anywhere else and they chose the scene while jinx was going to blow herself up.
I remember watching the "Sesbian Lex" scene with my dad. His reply after it ended was:
"The French are good at this"
Sesbian Lex...really? couldnt just type lesbian sex? felt too dirty? wow smh...
lmao
insanely good at it, i watched it with the scorsese pose bc i didn't know fortiche would go that far
The producers at Riot said they left complete creative freedom to Fortiche for that scene "We thought was best to let the french be french". They went so far that Netflix didn't allow the publishing of the entire season for rating issues. So they downgraded it a bit. Sadly the original scene got deleted, so no directors cut.
Unfortunately it happens in the worst way possible.
Having intercourse in a prison cell right after your sister locked you in so she could go unalive herself is one of the most confusing tonal decisions I've ever experienced but people seem to forgive it cuz it's "beautiful" I guess.
It's kinda funny when you realize that Ekko's main business in season 2 was originally figuring out why his treehouse was dying, leading him to getting dropped into an alternate timeline and finding a way back, to then immediately having to save the entire world.
The escalation of Ekko's to-do list is pretty hilarious.
"why the fuck is my plant dying do I need different soil?"
to
"oh hey I invented time travel because why the fuck not, also I need to save the world let's go"
Heimdeiger: "C'mon, Ekko, a quick 20 minute Heist into Pilltover's Lab to save your tree! What could possibly go wrong?"
- MONTHS LATER -
Ekko: "Oh God... Oh God this really went out of control quick! WHY AM I DOING THAT TO MYSELF WHY? Oh God... I need a vacation..."
If only they time aged him out of existence.
Average episode of Regular Show
Don't forget how he had to talk down a suicidal nihilist who kept blowing herself up right after having a nice and heartfelt date with a healthier version of her, vs meeting a different her at an absolute lowest of lows.
rip brutus, gone too soon for bricky to realize your name is actually rictus😔
He does look like a brutus though. Maybe a jeremy on a good day.
I called him Tall Draven
@@Kaalia0202 Noxian Gangplank
@@Kaalia0202 Not enough ego on him to even come close to comparing to Draven.
Noxian marneus Calgar, the guy that voices calgar in sm2 is the same that voices rictus
Can we just acknowledge that Singed just won Arcane?
This absolute madlad sacrificed nothing, never really lost, never failed, played every side, cured death and got his daughter back.
As far as I can remember Singed is the only parent and the only major antagonist to survive Arcane and bro did it start to finish.
While everyone else was having trauma and character development like nerds, Singed was just chilling.
This entire thing was just a smooth operation for him.
He just cant stop winning.
Shit you are right, only just realised that
Singed always be winning, bro was just doing science in a cave for like 90% of the show, says like 15 lines, makes some of the worst creations to ever grace runeterra cause tonnes of death and destruction, teams up with Silco, other chembarons, piltover and noxus to just noxus and after all of it he gets his daughter back and wins, truly the singma male grindset
Just wait till you hear about what Noxus lets him do to Ionia
I wouldn't say sacrificed nothing. He willingly sacrificed his humanity to save his daughter. And I wouldn't say he got away either. Caitlyn and Vi are pretty much in charge now and they're gonna be gunning for his ass as he's the only original antagonist left.
He is pretty much a Nazi scientist that did the deeds for the German side in the way and after become a director at NASA for the US side without anything "bad" happening to them besides having like a boot on their neck for some time but no real threat
I'm not very knowledgeable about league champion lore, but from what I do know, Singed basically being responsible, directly or indirectly, for like 75-90% of all the bad things and misery in the series, leading to lots of people suffering, only for him to seemingly achieve all his goals and escape scot-free seems very in character for him
Yes this is exactly how you play Singed. You leave a trail of toxic death. But you are a tank and don't just die.
Number 1 rule of league is literally "Don't chase Singed". Epic reference
Spoilers for the end:
And all of that to retcon him into being Orianna's father (instead of some random tinkerer) actually had me laughing. One of the few retcons that I didn't mind. Don't get me wrong, having Arcane as _a_ reality instead of _the_ reality of LoL had me super excited and loving the changes, but with them going 'this is the game now' made me just roll my eyes.
Moral of the story, doing warcrimes pays off
Erebus: "Mood kindred?"
After the show's finale, Necrit had an interview with Christian Linke (Co-creator of Arcane) where he cleared up a lot of the ambiguities surrounding the finale and the story in general.
Some of the biggest takeaways we got were:
- Jayce and Viktor are dead, completely erased by the rune along with the Hextech Anomaly. (Edit: others corrected that that the part of the statement regarding Jayce and Viktor was later taken back, and their fates are once again left unclear)
- Hextech is not gone, someone else will eventually pick up the torch.
- Jinx is heavily implied to be alive (Caitlyn looking the the Hexgate blueprints in the epilogue + a pink shimmer trail going off-scene before her bomb explodes) and likely left Piltover on the airship in the final shot (that is also a nod to the first episode where Powder said "one day, i'm gonna ride in one of those things"), going who knows where.
- Donger isn't fully dead, as explored in another Yordle's (Vex's) story, they're spirits and can't truly die, and even if something were to happen to them, they simply reappear in Bandle City (the extradimensional home of the Yordles) after an indeterminate amount of time.
- the Sesbian Lex scene was originally made with 0 input from Riot (fucking French people) and was even longer MORE explicit, which Riot ended up cutting out parts of.
- Season 2's script was finalized before season 1 aired and the whole thing was meant to be complimentary to League's lore as an alternate timeline of sorts. This plan was then undermined when Riot decided to make Arcane THE canon story for the characters involved (Thanks Riot).
- The next show will take place in either Demacia, Noxus or Ionia.
- The main theme of Viktor's design is chrysalis, he emerges from a cocoon (twice), and in his final transformation, the mask splits his face in two to symbolize him shedding his humanity and all emotion
I'm sure i missed some things, but that's the main gist of it.
I think Christian Linke said "its the end of Viktors and Jayces story" but Riot told him to take that back (which is good, they shouldnt die like that)
viktor was symbolized by moths in season 1 so it was pretty obvious imo.
Christian Linke has since said that the statement that Viktor and Jayce died was cut and edited and got taken out of context and he ment for it to be completely unknown what happened to them.
Quoting a response he made on Twitter: "I'm sorry for speaking the way I speak. In an interview. That's cut together from all sorts of out-of-context moments."
which was later followed by:
"lmao - well it's fair. Sometimes you get hit with questions that you didn't think you'd have to answer in a recorded interview and in the moment things are a bit awkward. Neither did they show me any of this before it went out. Alas"
Thirdly:
"There are things on the horizon that would keep their story going, but these projects are huge in scope, budget and required head count. Plus subjective, momentary creative execution makes or breaks the endeavors. So I cannot say for sure. Maybe. Maybe not. I wish I knew"
Season 2's script being finalised before season 1 aired just lends further credence to my theory that Netflix forced them to downsize at some point in its development, because man is season 2 riddled with unresolved threads, rushed conclusions and really weird character moments that just don't make sense whatsoever.
Linke's exact words were that Viktor and Jayce were "disintegrated".
Take that how you will.
Also, it's heavily implied the humanity of Vander or Skye are what allows Orianna to be "alive".
Pretty sure there's some memory removal shenanigans going on there as well if that'd be the case.
27:25 Not just only is Vi dead and Hextech hasn't been invented. Silco has also read the letter from Vander and forgives him, therefore he won't team up with Singed and create the Shimmer together.
That entire universe basically revolved around the concept of forgiveness.
also kinda implies that Jayce is gone
so either he did get banished this time because somebody died, or Viktor wasn't there to save him from that step too far
Im not entirely sureif thats confirmed but it would make sense. Something else important to note is that heimer arrived roughly 3 years before ekko in the alternative timeline. Because of that we can assume that heimer (through the piltovian council) gets deeply involved with the undercity in a peacefull way. So in the end it took forgiveness and understanding to make the world a better place. Who wouldve thought?
Question though. Why would Silco forgive Vander after he tried to kill him? Do we remember why they were estranged in the first place? Vander and Silco have fundamental issues with each other as people. Vander believes Silco is a ruthless opportunist who will escalate the conflict too far, and Slico believes Vander is a cowardly traitor who gave up on Zaun's revolution because he was too weak to stomach the reality.
These are not issues you resolve with a letter. It would take a fundamental change in their character, like how Jinx changed Slico, to get that across.
@@JM-nothing-more
Well, since this time he managed to stay on form and get ANOTHER kid killed, he probably didn’t get off as lightly
"Powder's friend turns to powder". Damn Bricky
Never underestimate Bricky's lack of restraint to celebrate a child's death
Sorry to bust your buckle but i am 97% certain that jinx did not die, they wouldn't have teased so much at the end if it was the case.
I rewatched that explosion again. There is 100% Jinxes purple streak just before explosion. I think creators pulled on on us. She still broke the cycle. Everyone thinks she is dead so all grudges can start to heal.
@@modisp also the actors were asked if she was dead and they said we'll see and started covering up their smiles
@@modisp Caitlyn was also looking at the plans of the tower where Jinx fell at the end and found that there was a secret ventilation shaft in it. She was also holding a piece of Jinx's bomb and looking at it, it really made the scene feel like they haven't found her body and the bomb was the only thing they found so they're wondering where she is. Powder also mentioned in season 1 episode 1 that she would like to ride an airship one day, and the last shot of the show is an airship. I think it's basically 100% she's alive
In chat with necrit, co creator confirmed her death
@@modispI loved the concept that jinx wants to die but the world and fate keep refusing to let her die and I hope they would just keep playing on that. I hope it was actually Ekko or something else who saved her.
Viktor`s new face is absolutely PEAK story telling through design, it`s literally the arcane breaking Viktor`s humanity and superseeding it.
Im gonna super seed your face
UwU
Looks dumb
Viktor's design is great.
His face being a perfect symmetrical halfway point of human and a faceless machine really is the perfect way to communicate that he's the midway point between order and chaos, machines and humanity.
Faceless mask does that already though. The only cool thing it does is having his human eyes closed and third (and fourth) eyes open, which can still be done with his old-school mask and not be goofy looking.
It really aint
25:55 remember bricky:
Everyone in the colony died with Viktor
That includes the child
Jayce is 3/3
I wonder if this is a reference to some previous LoL lore. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a thing where a BUNCH of people got sick and were dying. Viktor was just like 'There's no cure but if I turn them into cyborgs I can save them'. Jayce thought Viktor was doing something very EVIL (and you could argue in order to save them he was violating their bodily autonomy) and basically destroyed all his machines essentially killing everyone Viktor was trying to save. My favorite thing about that whole previous lore thing was Jayce at the end was like 'Man Viktor must really hate me for what I did, he's probably prepping his revenge as we speak.' and Viktor was like 'Well that sucked, oh well I have other shit to do that doesn't involve Jayce breaking things'.
I dunno. Viktor already erased that kid and replaced them with a robot.
I'd call it an assist.
Man couldn't resist putting Balatro in the Ad
How could he not, when it has completely taken over every part of his life?
I would too, its game of the year
@@eylol2546 I SWEAR TO GOD if Elden Ring gets it I'm gonna be pissed, it already won and a DLC shouldn't be there
@@Armorion echoes of the eye was a dlc and it sure as hell deserved goty
I would also like to point out the anti-magic runes that Rictus and Ambessa uses is an actual item in the game called Kaenic Rookern, which is a strong magic resist item, so neat little detail there.
I found that out LAST NIGHT playing ARAM and lost my shit
The most realistic part of Arcane is Leblanc threatening Ambessa's entire bloodline after building an MR item against Caitlyn.
@@potatosummoner6296 can hear the lb player typing on why im bulding mr against 4 ad enemy
Fun fact btw, the dance between Powder and Ekko is rendered at 4 frames a second to reference Ekko only being able to rewind 4 seconds.
This is a reference to the fact that my eyes hurt
@@joeykeilholz925 I was thinking the same damn thing.
@@AWanderingSwordsman epilepsie is a bitch
@@joeykeilholz925i really hated that art decision. It probably was actually done to shorten render time or some kind of technical shit.
It also was to say that it was a memory and that most people see memories as snapshots of events @@PRubin-rh4sr
Episode 7 being the biggest way to troll the entire audience of "what if" was so fantastic
'What could have been' if you will
@@alexandersakellarakis9803 all it needed was Vi to die...
@@modisp Nah it was moreso the lack of hextech, no dangerous powerful magic means no Noxus showing up and a whole bunch of other good stuff
@@modispNah, Silco and Vander were still friends in that timeline, more things changed than just Vi
@@alexandersakellarakis9803i see what you did there. And it stings my heart…
Noxians have the same logic as the Mandalorians, specially while dealing with the Jedi they said something like this: "Oh, you can block lasers? Ok, have fun with this buckshot dickweed"
"OH? You use magic infused guns? Have fun with this anti magic item bitchboy!"
Yeah, I also remembered the Mandalorians seeing the Noxians. But not the virgin Mandalorians from Clone Wars and beyond, but the chad Mandalorians from the old EU that whoop the Republic and the Jedi Order's asses and made them their bitches, and not those broken and corrupted Republic and Jedi Order from the prequels, but on their absolute prime. In the last chapter of Arcane I though "damn, this will be the closest of the Mandalorian Wars beyond the comics that we'll gonna see"
In case someone missed it, The rune that Ekko worked with to develop the Z-Drive was inversing the Acceleration Rune he saw with Jayce's notes. The Rune that was given to Jayce was also the Acceleration Rune from future Viktor. So with the final scene what i can guess is that the acceleration of time rune on jayce and the reversal of time collided against Viktor and Jayce, creating the paradox that both takes them out and also achieves what the future Vik wanted. There is also the whole thing about the anomaly being wild magic whereas hextech is controlled magic, putting a rune on ascended Viktor is putting control on wild and creating another paradox. Dunno which one is the inevitable undoing that happens, but its what some could gleam from the notes and science explained in the show
damn, nice detail
Hmmm... you are brigging good point, i didnt even think about what those runes meant, which is a huge oversight of my part in this story.
Which means... there is a chance both Viktor and Jayce are alive... i know that last moment felt pretty conclusive and having characters come back is grating, but... their "death" isnt exactly a monolith.
If future Vik intention was to make his past self remember what their ideology truly mean, and this was te collision of the same rune "upright' and "inverted"... this could have just taken both out of the time stream for a time, and maybe they will come back.
There is the whole thing with the canon of the story being jumbled still but that is a good detail to keep in mind.
46:13 Viktor broke out of his Arcane cocoon when he got patched up by Singed, that's how the Noxian fakeout was possible afterall. It's not too far fetched to think Singed swiped a sample of Viktor before Viktor left Zaun...so Singed was quietly reviving his daughter while everyone else was losing their free will.
90% sure there's actually a tiny bit where we see Singed drawing fluid out of Viktor's cocoon using the same injector he uses on Orianna's coffin/stasis chamber/thing.
Oh yeah there was that too, I missed that
For the new Viktor's face, I believe the point is to show his pursuit of the arcane and progress literally destroy his humanity. I'm not sure if you noticed, I don't think you mentioned it, but the flat, angular 'mask' face is tearing through his original one.
Also, fallout is pretty gas, worth the watch
Bricky confused me cause don't we literally see in the show Viktors face splitting in half, and the New one emerging?
@@royaloreo1275yeah but it’s probably easy to forget
Okay but like, Viktor the champ is not about Arcane magic
@ONIMOT100
Times change. I'll also miss machine herald Viktors swag
Viktor Nation, how we feeling?
Lied to, bamboozled even.
Dissapointed
Bamboozled guy stole my comment but team Viktor ain’t eating so well recently.
gay
In Victor we trust
Nah jinx is definitely alive. You can see a purple streak coming out of the explosion. As well as catlin looking at the vents and the ending shot of an air balloon that jinx said she wanted to ride in
Also the end card is in jinx handwriting
Yeah I am 100% on the "No body no kill" train. I would say the streak would be a stretch, if you didnt also see Cait toying with the leftover nade Jinx used while looking at tower blue prints and zooming in on airducts vents. And then ending the show with the Airship that Powder said she wanted to ride in the future, alll the way back in episode 1.
Its a lot of "nah thats just a coincidence/thats a stretch, bro" for it to not be basically 100% yeah Jinx is alive and "walking away" to "built something new" as Silco and Ekko told her to.
Is this copium? Maybe, but I aint changing my mind on it, because I was feeling fucking depressed at the end of the show. I am too soft for this kinda dour ending, so I am taking my bitter sweet ending over that depression bomb, thanks.
Didn't a creator confirm her death or something? Heard about something like that on Twitter
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 he didnt
@@TowerofhellTrust me, you and I are in the same boat. The damn boat's overflowing at this point.
Remember in the alternate universe Vi died because of the gems Jayce had in his home. Jayce has another kid under his name
man trully have a neck for killing kids
"does the hammer has like a kid seeking function or something" LMFAOOO
8:20 Graham McNeil (same person who gave us the Daemonculaba) was the Principal Narrative writer for the World building team at Riot up until recently so it's not surprising Arcane has Warhammer strokes painted into it, basically Necromunda, i.e. 9:06 The Sump.
Yo fr? Damn , the eldritch elements was familliar .
No wonder.
I bet they put him on a leash to not overboard lol
I think that the masks/scene in particular is more inspired by jin-roh
I read and listen to so many of his books and didn’t realize i quite literally read dead sky black sun and storm of iron
Yeah... and then Riot they fired him :/
Yeah, every time there was something in the Undercity I thought "okay, this is pretty much just Necromunda"
It's possible they can't do the Marvel respawn hack because it's a Quantum Leap deal, not just teleportation. Ekko and Hiem don't step out of the wild rune, they take over their alternate selves. It's probably why Jayce ended up in purgatory: he nearly took the sewer slide in the OG timeline because he got kicked out of school. In the alternate, he'd be looking at prison time, AND would have recently killed a kid (which he isn't thrilled about on a good day), so there's probably no living Jayce to drive around.
Once you're dead, you can no longer show back up in your universe. Boring Powder can hop over to Jinx (who isn't dead, as others have pointed out) but you can't get Chill Silco coming in to make her feel better.
Seeing Powder (mostly) unburdened by trauma for a whole episode was so many things. Catharsis to see the character you love be safe and happy. To highlight the beaty still buried within Jinx. To curse the slowmotion trainwreck the show so beautifully paints.
s2 is the perfect example of a season that needed at least one more episode, if not a whole extra act, to properly tie all the loose threads together. i'm still really upset that the whole piltover vs zaun conflict just kinda ceased to exist after act1 of s2.
also, it's *very* heavily implied that jinx survived the explosion at the end. you can see a purple streak rush away just a few frames before the detonation, caitlyn looking at the air ducts in the hexgate plans, and the airship being the very last scene, when powder's first proper sentence in s1e1 was "one day i'm gonna ride in one of these"
Video starts at 1:29
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Something I wanna point out between Act 1 and Act 2 specifically:
In Act 1 of season 2, there is little to no blood. Sure, Smeech gets murdered and Jayce bleeds at the memorial, but that’s about it. Season one had more blood than the entire first act of season 2.
And I think the reason for this is Warwick, given his whole thing is smelling the scent of blood and going on a tear. So when we see him in episode 4, it is SHOCKING how much blood got spilled, as if the very presence of Warwick in the story upped the age rating for the season. It’s a great touch.
@@tenacityxl it's a shame Warwick was absolutely squandered by the second season. The first time we really see him he's accompanied by jarring metal music that undermines the abject terror the perspective characters are feeling in the scene. This creative decision was obviously done for external reasons - namely the writers feeding into the "clap for Warwick" fan hype. What's funny is that even the whole "isn't Warwick badass?" thing, and his characterization as a blood thirsty beast, are immediately undermined by him recognizing jinx and reasserting the Vander persona.
Past that point both "cool" Warwick and bestial Warwick are both gone. Both are pretty much dropped so that the writers can regurgitate a worse version of the "daughters losing their father(s)" tragedy played out in the first season.
i think it may be important to tell you that what you said at 46:06 is just a misunderstanding, Singed was telling Ambessa that the cure for death would require Viktor to merge with Vander, the result of which would provide a cure for death--at the time Viktor wasn't necessarily going to live nor was necessarily going to merge with Vander/Warwick (more specifically Warwick as this was the point of all the "specimens"). That's why he clarified this to Ambessa with that statement, Viktor had to live and merge with Warwick without Viktor assimilating Warwick (which was what was actively going on). So, TL;DR Viktor didn't have to live, Viktor had to live long enough to cooperate, which he did. The result of that cooperation is what presumably cures Oriana, and also explains why she's a Arcane/Viktor style robot rather than the clockwork robot in the game.
I know they're distorted because the scenes got claimed, but I feel like that's such a Bricky thing to do to have wide child when bringing up a clip.
@2:45 What are you talking about? The classism was a huge part of the show, and them not doing more with it, just kind of saying its fixed now, is part of what brought season 2 down for me.
It quite clearly wasn't fixed (a literal hostile take over of Zaun in act 1, destroying the hippie commune giving people hope in act 2, Zaun sacrificing as much blood as piltover and getting a single council seat for it in act 3). It just wasn't the main driver of conflict since bigger fish have come as a common enemy for piltover/zaun.
27:25 Considering Vi died from a hex crystal explosion, Jayce's sentence for tinkering with arcane was most likely much harsher, meaning what in this universe he is either exiled, imprisoned or dead.
Yippie I guess?
Season 2 was basically 2-3 season cramed in one.
Was I the only person to feel confused how caitlyn never seemed to have any consequences for using the equivalent of mustard gas during a exenteded special military policing operation in a population dense city? And that VI was perfectly okay with that?
No, you're not alone.
Her not receiving any consequence was pretty on par with the entire justice system of the city. Vi being okay with that was the most problematic part.
@@patatequiroule There absolutely should be consequences. For example when they prepare for the big battle, Caitlin should be asked "Why would we help you, you gassed us".
Its more like teargas. They literally show the main short term side effect of it is tearing, eye redness, and snot pouring out of your nose. Long term consequences aren't as clear, but the zaunites being exposed to chronic low doses of the stuff all their lives probably means they get those regardless anyways.
@@patatequiroule this doesnt address the issue at all. The problem is that Zaun and even Vi should be extremely unhappy with her
The biggest thing that got me with this show was that there was barely a denumount. Like the final battle happens and then there's a slideshow with cait talking over it like some fallout out game. I would've like to see like an extra 5 or ten minutes of some good resolution and talking from the other characters as well as a the rebuilding effort.
I hate feeling these feelings
really, my only gripe with the show is that it really needed a season 3. i know the producers said there was never a season 3 planned, but i think that was a mistake. because in the end, the biggest problem with season 2 is that there was too much plot for 9 episodes.and that led to arcs underdeveloped, moments tonally not landing, and on and on. it really just needed another season, so that they could end season 2 somehwere earlier and actually flesh it out more.
I disagree with there being a Season 3. However, I agree with everything else you said. Instead, I propose that they simply added 1 extra episode to each arc in the season. These extra three episodes would do a lot as a lot of what we are shown is done via quick recaps at the start of the episode (exp. The Chembaron War) when it could be a full episode and show what everyone in the under city is doing. Another example of where they could make another episode is the Zuan occupation and make it a bit more interesting. Just my thought about it
@@CaptainKillroy i can understand that. that would have also been a good idea. just anything to give more time to actually highlight the plot points that were made instead of rushing through them.
@@rudelwolf1591 Arcane Season 2 "The Slaughter of the Side Characters" (that were introduced this season). And what ticks me off is that other side characters like Huck (the first guy that got cured by Victor) got so much screen time. He got cured, became the greeter, and then was the Mannequin that attacked Jayce and Mel in the council room (notice the necklace and shoulder piece). Like, this one guy gets so much screen time and then we have Zander (VI's friend who's name I can't remember), all the Chembarons that could have been cool, and Cailtylns Strike Team.
Tldr: any of the new side characters they introduced should have been shown more. (I wanted more Smeech. He was funny)
Just my humble thoughts.
I wonder if there is a big risk of losing momentum and especially surprise effects by giving too many clues to a story (yes, I know film experts like to predict the story and want to be right). To me, it seems better to surprise and give the explanation afterward. Or just leave it to the audience's imagination (or fan stories).
Not to mention the additional video of Ambessa that gives her a fascinating backstory. Or the 3 mini-games where you can fill in some of the "unwritten" scenes yourself. Also, there will be a novel about Ambessa in a few weeks. I would also like to mention that many - if not all - of the songs tell a story or give meaning to a scene. And there is a lot of "show, don't tell": gestures and facial expressions, things in the background, hidden frames.
And of course they had to leave something to tell for the next show (Black Rose, Singed, Orianna, Mel, Swain, etc.?). The statement that everything is said and done with Arcane is of course not true. haha
@@mullworm i am gonna be honest, i don't really know what your point is, and i think you misunderstood what i was complaining about. i don't mind setting up other shows, and i definitely appreciate the show don't tell arcane manages sometimes. but my point was that the story arcane season 2 told was just not fleshed out enough in the actual episodes. my point is that ( SPOILERS) caitlyns descent into tyranny, while understandable, is still jarring, just as her seeing vi and suddenly deciding to backstab ambessa is too. in both of those cases, i can absolutely understand the intention behind it, but it seems too sudden, and not explained well enough, therefore not in character. additionally, as bricky pointed out, some parts are just glossed over for the sake of progressing the plot, but therefore missing out on cool moments and arcs that could have been there. the chem barons for example, but also caitlyn and vi's special gas squad. it is fine as it is, but it could have been more. And that is my biggest problem with season 2: it was absolutely "fine", "great" even, but it could have been more if they had taken the time to slow down. i mean, the season has like 6 time jumps? and almost none of them actually tell you how much time has passed, or even gave you a rough estimate. like, i don't need a perfect answer, but give me some rough estimate so i can understand how much time has passed.
Now i get why a lot of people weren't happy with Victor being cyborg Jesus.
Because he was supposed to Dr Doom instead.
Sorta yeah, I don't even remember if he ever considered himself a "redeemer" or whatever Jesus Viktor does.
I think he was an inventor from Zaun that has a frienemy relationship with Jayce. Also Glorious Evolution! But I see why they added more to his character and I do absolutely adore the bromance between the two.
I wish we got Dr.Doom Viktor and an army of half augmented cybernetic and shimmer boosted gangsters and underlings.
All characters generally have been made to have a group of followers of some kind since then card game was released.
Viktor's character is a mess. Riot can't decide if he's a mecha-hitler techpriest or a misunderstood man who just wants to help the people. He flip-flops constantly. Here at least there's a continuous line of thought that actually touches upon both of those ideas, even if aesthetically it goes more into bio-mech/eldritch stuff.
@@totty5357 He always was a bit of tech jesus because of Glorious Evolution!, but it was less on the nose. He still thought that augmentation was the way of the future because of it being uplifting for everyone and really wanted to help, he just had that 'I know what's right, trust me.' mentality without Jayce's charisma. On the other hand, Jayce was more of a Jobs type character, all charisma next to no actual talent that annoyed Victor to no end, which _really_ tweaked Victor when Jayce stopped him every time with effectively his own inventions, slightly modified.
@@flailingdragoon1072 Riot has struggled to write the viktor/jayce conflict since the get go, they've tried so many different angles, but I think the Arcane one is the strongest. I'd argue that the hexcore was the reason for this path, in the sense that viktor's desire to heal, fix, unify, etc. zaun, was corrupted by the arcane. It could be that the hexcore has some form of sentience, (perhaps when it consumed skye, as she's the one that he's interacting with in that astral mindspace) and was using viktor as a puppet/vessel, putting viktor in a position where he can facilitate the hexcore's needs (human souls I guess) or its just caused viktor to transcend/change how he sees and interacts with the world, and sees this as the best and only way to use his "gift"/powers to make true of his ideals. Also giving Jayce's title of "Protector of Tomorrow" some actual weight and meaning, instead of being a superman reference, by showing him the "tomorrow" that would come if he doesn't stop Viktor. Its a shame more of the nuance gets lost from the stakes of their conflict being raised. yes both characters are flawed, but when you have to choose between robot apocalypse or everything being the same, Jayce gets to be the hero and viktor the villian. instead of just being able to agree they both kinda suck/are very childish
@@flailingdragoon1072 Oh look, somebody parroting a twitter post word for word, showing from where they got their opinion
Bricky's takes are fascinating-- they come from a place that is so foreign to how I understand storytelling, but I can see his chain of reasoning. It's sort of the end point of the TV Tropes style of media criticism, combined with a kind of shonen battle anime power scaling, while shrugging at character developments that aren't directly plot advancing.
Ep7 is absolutely NOT filler and NOT "side quest" (personal bias) because it explains and validated motivations for Jayce and Ekko which pay off in the finale.
but did they really have to spend an whole episode on that when everything else was so rushed?
@@revolversnake126 I honestly think it would be poetic to not list ep 7 as ep 7 because it happens in a different universe, and having an extra episode in act 3 to help shore up the pacing could have been a great artistic touch. then have the finale release the following week with maybe like 10-15 mins more footage of the fight to really highlight the climax.
It was absolutely filler. The alternate time line has absolutely nothing to do with Ekko's motivations. And Jayce being trapped in a hole eating rats for weeks added absolutely nothing to his character in the long run.
@CannibalShinobi
(1) Same Ekko who witnessed and learnt about forgiveness in ep.7 when he saw Silco and Vander together and witnessed the harmonic paradise Zaun + Piltover could be. A lesson Ekko learnt to forgive Jinx for k!ll!ng members if his Firelights crew.
(2) You also COMPLETELY IGNORED the conversation between Ekko and alternate Jinx/ Powder where Ekko admitted he gave up on her and only saw the errors of Zaun to which alternate Jinx/ Powder responded she never seen him give up on anything. AND the statement "sometimes taking a step forward mean leaving some things behind". Another lesson that compliments and compounds on point (1).
(3) You also COMPLETELY IGNORED the value of Ekko saving Jinx from offing herself multiple times using the TIME REWIND device. He kept trying many different conversations in each rewind to persuade Jinx, never giving up until he succeeded. A lesson about never giving up and inner strength. This also became VERY important when Ekko was able to resist Viktor's mindmeld just enough to make that last move which freed both Jayce and damaged Godmode Viktor giving Jayce the opportunity to make Viktor SEE, understand and change the error of his arcane ambitions. For all we know Ekko kept using that time device repeatedly in unite he successfully united Zaun to join the war.
All these above 3 factors contributed greatly to Ekko's character development, motivations and his efforts. It is NOT difficult to deduce that Ekko used all the above 3 factors to persuade and unite Zaun towards joining the war which ultimately led to Piltover accepting Zaun to join the leadership council where both factions (Zaun and Piltover) can discuss all grievances towards amicable harmonic solutions for both sides.
(4) Given all the above, the way i see it... Zaun joined the war BECAUSE OF EKKO not because of Jinx because Ekko is the idealist, optimist and LITERALLY a community manager NOT Jinx Jinx has NEVER should interest in power or leadership. The Jinxers adored Jinx's rebelliousness against Topside/ Piltover but none of them knew anything about Jinx offing Silco nit even Sevika who also developed a partnership with Jinx.
As much as we wanted to see all this on screen, all were can very easily be sufficiently deduced and surmised from what is provided building on Ekko's journey in episode 7 and Ekko's efforts saving Jinx in the beginning of episode 9.
Episode 7 was the only one I really enjoyed.
But it wasn't worth them taking Ekko Jayce and Mel OUT OF THE SHOW for the majority of its run-time.
46:50
Cait looked at how jinx probably escaped and the air ship is probably jinx leaving
Also, Heimerdinger as a yordle is immortal
His species is called "yordle"? Oh my god that's so adorable
Not immortals, they just live for many many years
@@meffycodrin1853 they are immortal lol
Immortal can mean many things. Immortal can mean they don't die of old age but can still be killed, or it can mean they cant die of any cause, i believe the case with yorldes is the former.
@@TheXientist In the "main canon" of league, which is very messy right now since they just kinda threw in the bomb of Arcane being canon and closed the door, Yordles are immortal in the sense that we don't know of a single instance of one dying from old age and in the way that they literally respawn when killed. Or "their spirit re-form" is the official description I think.
They're more like spirits which have taken humanoid form or something along those lines. They also get heavily influenced by their surroundings due to their spirit nature which is why we got giga nerd Heimer at the Piltover academy and malicious creature looking guy on the chembaron council.
There's even a super depressed yordle in league who keeps trying to end herself but keeps respawning which just makes her more depressed. Weirdly morbid in a way.
But the lore is in a weird place rn, so I can't 100% guarantee that this is considered canon by all the writers at riot.
There's also the fact that all of this can be true and Heimer can still be dead. It's not like he got stabbed or something, he was atomized in another dimension/timeline. His spirit could forever be lost in limbo between dimensions or something making him effectively permanently dead. Or he could "respawn" in that dimension, making him "dead" in the main universe.
So I would consider him dead for now, no matter what the lore says about yordles.
they were heavy handed with the classism stuff because otherwise most people wouldnt friggin understand
Compared to this season which goes in circles and tries to show us the healing power of a random kid on a psychopath, I much preferred the first one. And not sure what he means by heavy handed when that's basically the story of Piltover and Zaun.
@@doxkowalski915yeah exactly lmao piltover v zaun
Jinx has proven that, mfers really complaining about the scene where Ekko talks her down "just for her to die anyway" got me genuinely tweaking. Media literacy's body is ice cold.
@@JowoeBunchaNumbers That scene was more destructive to who Ekko was, as he stops her, because he liked a mentally stable not filled with Shimmer version of her in a different dimension. Are we forgetting the painted wall of faces, most of which were put there because of Jinx?
@@JowoeBunchaNumbers My biggest problem with that Scene is that most of it happens off screen. The whole zhaun thung gets resolved off screen and the conflict with Piltover is just... Forgotten about? Nothing really changed after the battle ended, the differences and problems were still there.
S1 Jace - These edibles ain't shit
S2 Jace - bad trip
S3 Jace - Mel i'm sorry but i have a family now....Vikor the mother of my child
Remember people, no body no kill.
I wasn't in that tank
Jinx lives, before the explosion you can see the purple line from the shimmer dash, also Caitlyn is looking at the schematics of vents where jinx fell and the final shot of the air blimp similar to the one kid jinx said she wanted to go on AND "the end" written in jinx style. And the whole idea of walking away from the cycle of violence
Christian Linke confirmed the deaths.
"I wasn't in that timeline" - Heimerdinger... probably.
@@NotVeryUwUofYouunless they changed it I don't think himer died there cuz he's a yordel, because if I am remembering the lore right when a yordel's physical body dies they just go back to brandel city which is in the spirit relm, I think I am a little rusty on the lore
If it wasn't for episode 7 existing, I would have said that this whole season was a pretty notable downgrade from season 1 of Arcane. But episode 7 is such a beautiful piece of media, it's absolute perfection. From storytelling, editing, voice acting, character relations, imagery, cinematography, music, animation... EVERYTHING was just perfect.
The juxtaposition of Jayce going through literal hell and both Ekko and Heimerdinger stepping into heaven are both sides of the same coin, a "what could've been" for both scenarios. And they are paced so well, both realities rip our hearts in different ways and give ultimate purpose for two of my favorite characters in Ekko and Jayce.
One major gripe I have with the finale and overall second season is that I really hoped the show gave us as the audience, a moment for Ekko and Jinx to bond before the final battle or even at all. They didnt have a single normal conversation in the whole series despite being depicted close as kids. Why omit a moment like that? What a shame.
All in all great video and review man! Keep up the great work.
Arcane and sensual scenes are so uncomfortable and funny when you think about em. The contrast of Jayce and Mel climaxing vs Viktor fucking dying and being reborn. Vi, the hot headed single minded gal that has been doing nothing but chase after Jinx/Powder in one way or another is let out of the jail said Jinx/Powder trapped her in and the first thing she does is smash Caitlyn. That cell probably smelled awful too, Jinx's crusty ass wasn't moving from the same spot and her greasy ass hair was all over the place and there was not a toilet in sight, oh and THAT'S THE CELL JINX WAS IN like idk it's a weird location to smash in, the same place your sister was locked in.
At least Jayce/Viktor scenes was in contrast. Like one is having good time and other is fucking dying.
Prison cell is the stupidest place to "have a moment".
Jayce "When the Hextech core was born, it was a guided missile towards the newborn" Talis
Jayce "Not just the men, but the women and children as well" Talis
Jayce "It's not a chore when I do it with my hextech core" Talis
Jayce "Hextech is the hammer, Zaun is the nail" Talis
That last one is great
😂😂😂
Jayce "fuck them kids" talis
20:30 but we do know why Mel's there, her "brother" tells her exactly why he was taken and why she was next.
48:00 Mel, they were after Mel. She was critical to both stop Ambessa and the calamity brewing from Viktor, and as a potential recruit. Mel turned the tables on them by using them to defeat her mother but also taking up Ambessa's mission because they are the ones responsible for her brother's death.
As for Jinx, Cait is looking at ventilation shafts in the Hexgate chamber where Jinx was last seen. In the beginning of Ep 1 of Season 1, Powder looks at the airship and says "I'm gonna ride on one of those one day." You can look at that being foreshadowing for episode 4 of Season 1, but also at the very end with the Jinx style "end" card.
Animation: Yes 100
Story: What the? Why? What is happening? Did they forget half of the show?
Season 1 had many story bits that were meh but Season 2 just breaks every 2 seconds.
There aren't only 2 episodes mixing. There are like 6 to 12 episodes missing. The development of Fishman, Wallguy and Redhead.
Strike Team hunting Jinx.
The battle over Noxus.
And so on and so on.
If you watch it with your eyes open and your hands out of your ears, the story is actually not that complicated! Maybe try it again, we all start somewhere bestie. You'll get to a kindergarten level of media literacy eventually, don't worry!
Bricky, there is a LOT of heavy hints that jinx isn't dead. Heimerdinger isn't dead either because canonically yordles can't die. They reappear at bandle city
To explain what happened to Jayce and Viktor at the end:
They're on their honeymoon in the stone, the episode just wrapped up before they returned.
Source: It was revealed to me in a vision
The few problems I have with S2 of Arcane are very similar to the ones I had coming from GoW18 to Ragnarok.
The tight focus that just made it so immaculate made room for a more expansive yet lesser experience. Still good.
"Danm Jayce, does the hammer has a heat seeking missile or is their some prejudice we should know about ?"
You're one to talk Mr. Roundhousing a poor kid in a mall
Don't forget the "Gray". It got the Zaunites freaked out beyond believe, was used by Cait to terrorise them and it's just completly abandoned by the plot.
The gray was never a threat, this problem has been solved by the vents a long time ago. Cait using it to chase after Jinx mostly serves to show how her hatred has made her willing to make life in Zaun even more difficult for the residents (and also gives us more cool scenes).
@@patatequiroule the gray was never "solved", it was simply bottled up on lower levels of zaun far lower than what we see on the show, every shot of zaun that Arcane depicted was the higher and "prettier" levels of zaun, the tip of the iceberg of sorts, that is the entire reason for zilco monologing with the chembarons about the luxury of fresh air that they have, the vents do help but there is still a constant stream of smog on pretty much 70% of zaun due to the chemtech factories underground
Thank you for calling out that ending. It felt extremely rushed and left a lot of open questions a little too much. As someone who has never played League Mel plot came out of nowhere and left a very bad taste of my mouth just dumping that fact about her out of nowhere. They don’t even care to explain exactly what happens to the under city. do they succeed or do they officially join the council? Overall, I really enjoyed the season, but this is definitely worse than season one just because of that ending dragged it down.
Then you gotta pay attention to cues and details more
Mel being a mage, okay fair, a bit random
But the ending ? Nah, that is on you
@ so you’re honestly telling me you didn’t think the ending wasnt rushed? I’m just saying, I think the show could’ve really benefited from an extra episode.
Sevika is shown as a council member at the end.
22:41 please for now on keep using this kinda distortion every time a clip gets claimed you have no idea how much i laughed
I don't think season 2 is a masterpiece like season 1 the last few episodes felt rushed it seems like the show needed an extra 2-3 episodes. but all in all i do think it was really great to borderline amazing. its just those last 2 episodes i wasn't that big of a fan of except for Vi and Cait of course.
Viktor's mask is supposed to be splitting his face apart (you can even see it tearing out of his head at the end of Episode 8). Quite literally shedding his humanity to become this stone cold, emotionless, inhuman face. I actually think it's a really cool design.
I do agree they could've made him more cyborg-ish though. Specially now that they're adapting that design to League. You wouldn't even have to change that much, really. Just make it so that instead of the hexcore making his body all weird spacey purple it takes nearby metal and reshapes it to his body (which is kinda what he does to his followers). He goes through very similar plot points as lore Viktor, it's just the aesthetics that are completely different.
18:38 As a man who knows way too much about Chris Chan- i can confirm this.
I 100% agree this Season needed and extra episode of time:
-Add a Little bit more to Jinx and put the cut Jinx+Ekko scene and have them rally up Zaun in the end, with Sevika saying she's proud of Jinx finally being the symbol Zaun needed
-Add a Little bit more to Cait's betrayal (tbh there was the "the things we do for love" line from Singed, but a Little bit more would have helped)
-Explain Viktor's philosophy change a bit more
-Make Ep.9 a Standalone Ending episode
And Season 2 becomes a 10/10. It's SO CLOSE, all the pieces are there, the story just needed a Little bit more time.
In my head, I feel like the season would have done well if they added an extra episode to each of the arca to fill them out a bit more. Show the Chembaron Civil War or the Zuan occupation better then just... A song recap (don't get me wrong, I love "Sucker" and the visuals behind it are great, just wish I could have seen more of it).
RUBY ROSE 10:56
lmao
When I saw it, I *immediatly* Google-search "RWBY Black Rose" in Image section...
I found it fairly quickly.
From "Description Sheet" it provided, apparently it's Ruby but her mother is Salem... and all of Team RWBY listed as sisters(I didn't look too deep, so seek it yourself if curios).
Victor’s face is literally an arrow splitting out of his original face pointing upwards lmao
Love how in episode 5 that big heartwarming group hug healed me, then Ishas death in episode 6 broke me. Gotta love arcane 😂
Why did it heal you? It happened so fast that any bit of actual tension of "can we bring him back" is gone. And Isha is an overly dramatised plot device that exists to make other characters do things, because they couldn't be bothered to give Jinx a motivation this season.
@@doxkowalski915 My man, take a chill pill. The vid's been out for an hour and you are all over the comments section.
We get it, you are upset with season 2, but that clouds your judgement. Personally, I enjoyed S1 more than S2, yet that means I am all the more interested as to others opinions.
As I said before, take a breath and enjoy someone else's viewpoint. It's much more enjoyable to ENJOY stuff.
@@trenedyallen3578 Yeah mindlesslly enjoy stuff. DOn't question, just consume. Ignore problems. Just ENJOY....
@@TheRedGauntletmy brother in christ, you can enjoy things while engaging with it critically. it's not mutually exclusive
@@latlatko No, you see, because they parroted the red letter media meme they've shown that their media literacy card is bigger than the people who enjoy the show.
"Viktor! No, Viktor! You can't become the Omnissiah, i'm gay for you!"
-Jayce
48:39 I personally feel like Singed is just Joel but smart enough to let himself dodge others' attention, so nobody will force him to play golf.
17:45. There’s no way. The double meaning of the “powder that makes you say real” and the Powder character in arcane is too funny. Was that deliberate?
I was personally very disappointed with the season, Cait's turn into a dictator felt pointless, because we just jump straight to her doubting Ambessa's manipulation, Vander's ressurection was pointless because they just killed him again for good (peesonality-wise at least, I'm sure his mutated body still lives), Black Rose stuff was handled very awkwardly, Vi lost all agency, Viktor's storyline devolved into Marvel supervillain multiverse slop that is popular nowadays. But the one thing I can't forgive is the complete absense of the social themes that were driving the plot in season 1. Why did Zaun even fight for Piltover against the Noxians and Viktor at the end? Why did they even come to Jayce's meeting? The heart of what made season 1 great was sadly missing in this installement, and the whole thing felt super rushed. I am still interested in what Fortiche is going to do in the future, but I will now have to manage my expectations and not hope for anything.
The problem with Arcane 2 is that they are still trying to set up for the next project instead of giving out answer and closure, also they could have added 1 more episode after 8 to show the struggle between Zaun/ Piltover on learning how to forgive before joining hand for the big finally.
Other than that the show is a solid 9.
Now it's time to beg the french for the release of that extended Cell sequence cut
Vi was on her knees in a jail cell eating out klukluxKiramann
After spending years oppressing Zaun, literally gassing civilians, police brutality, and mass incarceration. What did piltover do to deserve their help? One single seat on the council? Outnumbered 5 to 1?
Change doesn't really come quick in the real world. It felt like a very grounded representation of actual geopolitics to me.
also, if anybody doesn't speak french: the song in the Episode 7 dance scene roughly translates to Runaway by Kanye West.
Jokes aside the song's title translates literally to "My best enemy" and something like "My dearest enemy" as a more intended translations. The general theme of the lyrics is "you're the best thing to ever happen to me & you're the worst thing to ever happen to me."
The idea that most of the audience probably doesn't understand the song actually works really nicely in the sense of "Jinx is having a really great night with his boyfriend? crush? and Ekko is having the most emotionally conflicting moment of his life". Even if it's not intended.
I think it is intended to do that.
@@learningeveryday365 Yeah, I'm like 80% sure that's the case. The only thing that gives me pause is that Fortiche (the animation studio that made Arcane) is french, so it could be like "yeah we know the people for this".
1:00 This man needs our help
I might be wrong about this but in some versions of Warwick's lore I think it's mentioned that he originally looked slightly more human before going full animal after being abandoned by Singed so his look in Arcane could be a nod to that
On the subject of episode 7, one of my FAVORITE things about that entire episode upon reflecting back on it was the realization of how well it worked with the ending.
There was so much implicit story telling in the world. Vi died because of the hextech accident. Well, the implication is that Jayce and Viktor died.
Which is WHY those two weren't seen there, or in Jayce's case, why he got whisked away on the timeline with Jayce. It REALLY highlights the beauty of what Viktor said to Jayce at the top of the tower in the timeline where he succeeded.
".... Only You." It ties into their story so well. There is no other way this could have gone for them. And in the case of Viktor seemingly being omnipotent, he's not, he can only see into the timelines where he's alive.
Which means for the timeline that Ekko and Heimerdinger got sent to, he cannot see. It explains why 'our' Viktor we see in the moment of performing his "Great Evolution" ritual is so confident. So sure of this outcome, because there is no other timeline that he can see. And it ties into just how.... Human he is. Harking back to Jayce's line of "All of your flaws made you who you are," which ultimately led to his future self from stopping himself.
I LOVE episode 7 so much. It does the whole "what if" narrative amazingly well. You can be certain that the writers spent a solid week just thinking about how this world would work. There's even the strong implication that without hextech, Piltover eventually started depending on Zaun for the inventors and genius talent that was there (probably because of Heimerdinger). It just KEEPS GOING
It gets a lil dark especially if think about Jayce jumping off the academy dorms and viktor dying from his sickness
Idk how much league you play, but what's interesting is that anti-magic item was an item added to league sometime in the last couple years, Kaenic Rookern, the bane of my existence as a mage player.
Funny enough, back in season 1 episode 1 i asked myself "how did V just make it out of that room without a scratch after clearly getting blasted in the face?" and now we kinda know. Its pretty cool that the death of a child who tried to steal something in order to have slightly better living conditions for herself and family would be a convincing argument to both "ban hextech" and "ending the bad blood between the cities". Putting so much philosophical value on the death of a child is also a jab at our modern times in general, where not even a thousand dead children are enough to sway leaders towards peacefulness.
I actually chucked it up to Heimer being stuck there for years to fix shit top side, and Vi death being a catalyst to get Silko to talk to Vander and stabilize bottom, while having no Ambessa to come for hextech and aggravate conflict. Martyr children are never enough to affect change untill someone gets to benefit from their passing, after all.
To be honest the season two felt like a step down in narrative quality for me at the long run.
I did like most of the story beats, if not all of them, but it felt rushed. It felt like the narrative board had all the ideas they wanted to end the show at, but writers that worked on episodes 1 and 2 were suddenly replaced with completely new people for 3 and 4, and that trend continued until episodes 6, 7, 8 and 9.
We go from the existence of Piltover's Finest in Zaun creating terror by closing the air ducts and beating everyone, into the literal disbandment of that same squad so Vi and Caitlyn can fight Jinx in 30 minutes. That same episode ending with Jinx and Vi getting a falloff, and in the next Jinx is all about her love for Vi. I feel that season two could have been stretched into a Season 3 and gotten better for it, pacing was very weird.
Ah yes, Brutus. That's his name
And the police people. Don't forget them (not like the show did)
I love Viktor's evolved form in Arcane. The way they show his face splitting shows how he's shedding his humanity figuratively and literally. His new face forms an arrow pointing up emerging from his human face now "dead". Its the ideology/obsession taking over him. He has become so obsessed with progress that he has discarded everything to become the literal embodiment of progress (arrow pointing up). And the final episode is him ascending Piltover's tower with Jayce, ending up with Jayce being dragged by force Viktor.
Viktor's new form is absolute peak for me, the more I thunk about it the more I love it
This feels like they were going to make three seasons but had to make it down to two seasons
Close enough actually, the season was supposed to be longer (by a large margin) than the first but was cut down by the Producers and Netflix.
@katelawyer3689 if we go off what Riot themselves said on reddit, they put aside the budget for 5 seasons but it was always written as 2 seasons.
I think the whole ending thing with Viktor and Jayce can be explained best by a paradox. Viktor never went through with it, so he couldn't have gone back to give Jayce his Hextech crystal.
Likely, the world didn't want to implode because of this paradox, so instead, it localized its clean up to Jayce, Viktor, and the puppets.
I gotta say, even tho i enjoyed the video a lot, you missed a ton of personal feelings of the characters to give room to the big stuff that happened on the show. and in Arcane especially, those personal feelings are everything. they give meaning to every single act of every single character. it's a shame that more than half of the fanbase ignores these little but very much important details and say haha jinx go off herself but vi had sesbian lex.
Even though, yes, those little details were sometimes too little for the majority of people to pick up on, and it's the showrunner's fault for cramming SO MUCH stuff into one season and not giving room to explain and explore it fully.
lovely video tho Bricky as always.
Worst flow of the show is making you listening to Imagine Dragons for 2 minutes every episodes
Season 2 was such a fucking let down. The quality of writing, character work and pacing was tossed out the window for spectacle. I showed Season 1 to my wife and her sister, who are both normies, and they thought it was amazing. When we started to watch season 2 my sister-in-law said "wow, this is terrible. its like it was written by someone else." and my wife said "season one felt like a story. Season 2 feels like a commercial.". my wife also joked "watching you face during Season two, your expression was like that one time i said i wanted a divorce." and honestly season 2 was even more of a let down than that. And while my wife and i worked out our issues, Season 2 didn't. it was shit from the word go and never got better only worse. i have a feeling it will be used as an example in writing classes in the future. The Professor will have the class watch s1 and write an essay on what it did write and then an essay on S2 on how it did everything wrong. Besides the art there is nothing redeeming about it.
The fact that there are no meme of "Victor did nothing wrong or Jayce did nothing wrong" going around is a good confirmation for me that Arcane ss2 is not good enough like ss1. I really want to see moral dilemma of wanting create a better world between this ex-couple. Arcane 2 left me disappointed. Truly inglorious regression.
Because it fundamentally isn't an interesting question. We see the consequences of Viktor's plan and it's shit. Even if we didn't we'd still have reason to be against it. If it was a mix of "how far is too far" when pressed with a real threat, say the Noxians trying to conquer the city, that would have been interesting. Arcane's version of the NGE ending just isn't.
The appearance of the Black rose and the Commando under Caitlyn were moments that for me, as not-LoL player, felt like they were made specific for LoL fans. Characters appearing in Attires similar to their in-game representation and the appearance of the black rose, without naming them. Those scenes were good imo, just in different ways depending on if you know the lol lore and played the game or not.
I felt like the introduction of the black rose was too league player specific too. I had (and still have) NO IDEA what was going on with them besides some spooky sorcerer(s?) who Ambessa probably made a deal with at some point and are also maybe slightly less evil than Ambessa?
After the afterglow of recently watched show I got hit by post-watch clarity. The story was a mess. The show really needed a whole season, maybe more to flash out every plot point. As is now, it feels clipped and messy. And there is only so much you can tell storywise with hidden 25th frame, so there is not many reasons to dissect every scene. Arcane had everything, but its story needed time. Which is ironic when you think that the finale climax is solved with a goddamn time paradox.
I have seen many mentions of like whole 60 minutes being cut for time, I cant begin to imagine what they wanted to put in but weren't able to
@@GrooveBot766creators confirmed they always wanted to have it be 2 seasons. No clue how true that is in their hearts but seems to me like they just wanted to be done with it to get to Noxus.
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 There's internal rumors that say originally it was envisioned as a 5 season series, how true that is I can't say. What I can say is two seasons were clearly not close to enough needed to tell the story of just these characters.
Bricky you always bring ME BACK. I end up re-watching your videos every couple months, even though I'm not a fan of half the shit you talk about because you're just so entertaining.
I'm on lethal dose of copium, but Riot said that 'this is the end of Arcane story'. The show is called Arcane, not Sisters of the Undercity. Arcane storyline, as in, Viktor and Jayce dealing with the arcane magic and the anomaly beneath the city. They didn't say this is the end of Piltover and Zaun story, there is still soooo much more they can do, so maybe we will get some more in the future.
New chem-barons in Zaun like Urgot and Renata, Ekko dealing with those new chem-barons that are hurting the city, maybe with the help of Zeri. Camille maybe discovers a new way to make and use hextech that is dangerous, but in a different way. Maybe Seraphine can sense something is wrong but nobody listens to her. Orianna dealing with the circumstances of her life and what had to happen for her to be alive. Vi and Cait can be used for many different sotrylines. And of course they can just introduce original characters and make a story around them. There is still stuff they can do
Bricky it's so relatable how prone you are to League of Legends gaming relapse just like we are. 52:31 I admire you for being so vulerable on camera like that
Yordles are Immortal, The Donger isn't dead. Unfortunately.
No dead Donger
Yeah, but us casuals who dont know the lore dont know that. So, as far as the majority is concerned, he is dead.
WDYM unfortunately? Heimerdinger was my favorite character.
“The Donger”😂😭🤣
I have to say bricky, great vid, I do really prefer this style of video (like you on screen) rather than what you have been trying to do recently, I feel this style is a lot more dynamic and expressive as physical gesture and facial expression really help bring the viewer along. Perhaps if you still want to try the other style, I suggest you do not change the microphone as I often feel like the transition between the two is "ruff", best regard
When you get recommended a Bricky vid the moment it drops. I guess UA-cam can do something right for once.
Smeech is the best character how dare you forget them
Just a few things Bricky may have missed or didn't have time to go over,
SPOILERS (duh)
1. Jinx is alive, over the series, contact with hextech, crystals and or shimmer have given her a sort of super speed and there is a big focus on it in Season 2 she uses it against Warwick and Rictus and it leaves behind a pink trail, we see one of these trails leave the explosion at the end of episode 9 and in the epilogue Caitlyn is looking at Jayce's schematics for the hex gate and it zooms into it's ventilation system, implying she escaped through there
The final scene of Arcane is an airship flying into the horizon, an almost exact recreation of the first time we see one in season 1, in which Powder says, she'll ride one someday.
2. Pretty much everyone else is also probably still alive, I know, I'm sorry, muh consiquences, but not a single major death in season 2 was "clean"
Ambessa collapses after Black Rose magic shenanigans, we don't really know what's happened to her, it wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly WHY Mel is off to Noxus now
Warwick already survived a much bigger explosion in episode 6, and fell directly into a Hexgate, so, he's just out there somewhere now.
Jayce and Viktor disappear into the Arcane, but again, that doesn't mean much, half the cast have disapeared in magic by this point and come back
Similarly, Heimerdinger got "vaporised" but they were working specifically on a machine to trancend realities, and again, literally not the first time magic has made him disapear, maybe Heimerdinger founds Bandlecity in this new canon, which is the magical city of Yordles that exists between worlds
As Brickdaddy said in his conclusion, this isn't really an ending, there's more shows to come, so while Arcane IS finished this world and it's characters are not, Mel WILL be in Noxus, Singed may be in Ionia, we just gotta wait a few more years for the next batch of misery 😅
Jayce and Viktor are confirmed dead as per Christian Linke.
Also weord they'd have a funeral thing for Ambessa if she's just rose-coma'd.
And don't say it's for Rictus because he already had a funeral.
writers did confirm that all of these are actual deaths after the ending. The only one that they leave as a "we will see" explicitly is Jinx. Watch ARCANE AFTERGLOW: ACT 3 in the stillwatchingnetflix channel
I will add to that with a bit of speculative lore for Ambessa, her champion teaser "blood sweat and tears" seems to imply that she is an Aspect of Kindred (translation : she is blessed and kinda inhabited by Death itself) which would allow her to realistically resurect lorewise even if she died.
Ambessa was genuinely fantastic. Her feelings for Cait and Mel as a mother figure was just so well done. It's almost easy to miss that Cait represents everything she wishes Mel was, and their scenes together are both of them replacing their missing family members. Her pride at Caitlyn taking the killshot against her. "Bold, little one." She's so fucking proud of the killer she made. Her accepting the challenge to shut up and fight with that proud little smile. It's funny that you mention Silco, because both of them meet their downfall the same way.
Fun little visual thing I’m 99% sure the creators did on purpose but I haven’t seen anything official confirming it the final battle the no name soldiers on both sides were literally red and blue minions!
Don’t worry about not remembering their names.
Maddie is slightly less forgivable because she gets a few lines and is namedropped a few times.
Loris is named as such in his subtitles, but he gets two lines until episode 8 when Vi names him
Steb is not named throughout the entirety of the show, and has now lines for him to have his name appear in subtitles. We only know he’s called Steb because of teamfight tactics