Suffering & Different Beast- EPIC: The Musical Animatic

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    Song: Suffering & Different Beast
    Epic: The Musical by Jorge Rivera-Herrans ‪@JayHerrans‬

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  • @whattwowhat
    @whattwowhat 5 місяців тому +4129

    This is the Odysseus that used the Trojan Horse to kill his enemies in their sleep. Lull your foes into a false sense of security, then strike.

    • @abc-zq8yt
      @abc-zq8yt 5 місяців тому +62

      Great observation!

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 5 місяців тому +44

      Oh my God, I just realized that😭😭😭

    • @simplysage3562
      @simplysage3562 5 місяців тому +46

      That is true but I don’t think it’s was a brutal I feel as if it was pragmatic
      This was needlessly cruel also take into accounts the sirens probably took the visage of women
      I like to think the sirens look like naked women until their lower section is severed then the fish appearance is shown while they writhe on the floor with their entrails spewing out its was prob grisly stuff

    • @revolrz22
      @revolrz22 5 місяців тому +77

      @@simplysage3562 Whether or not the sirens take on the visage of human women is irrelevant to the cruelty of the situation. As to the cruelty itself: If Odysseus begged for mercy, were the sirens going to spare him? No, absolutely not. There is no question. The sirens got caught in their own game and paid the price. The Odysseus expedition has dealt with being eaten alive, crushed, transmogrified, and drowned up to this point. Athena and Poseidon both impressed upon Odysseus that mercy isn't the way to go when you're in a world of bad actors.
      So, killing the sirens wasn't cruelty. It was the only thing that made sense to do.

    • @Darvyak_IX
      @Darvyak_IX 5 місяців тому +59

      ​@@revolrz22 the cruelty is not that he killed them but the way he had them killed was needlessly painful and drawn out

  • @Lukas-yt1mn
    @Lukas-yt1mn 5 місяців тому +2161

    I highly appriciate the mythically accurate Scylla

    • @emmawiley2452
      @emmawiley2452 5 місяців тому +228

      Naw cause this is the ONLY design that has the heads around her waist be wolves like they actually are supposed to be.
      We love a mythically accurate Scylla

    • @HEMRESSholymoly
      @HEMRESSholymoly 5 місяців тому +36

      YEAH, THIS IS A NEW LEVEL OF EPICNESS

    • @Nemial-l7i
      @Nemial-l7i 5 місяців тому +89

      I saw this Scylla and immediately felt repulsed in a good way. Sure, inaccurate Scylla is pretty spooky. But this Scylla is genuine nightmare fuel in comparison and I am so here for it.

    • @HEMRESSholymoly
      @HEMRESSholymoly 5 місяців тому +8

      @@Nemial-l7i YEAHHHH

    • @PointerNguyen
      @PointerNguyen 5 місяців тому +7

      SNOOT

  • @nivek367
    @nivek367 5 місяців тому +5345

    I like how you pointed out how incessantly ruthless Odysseus was here, he could have simply killed them by attacking their heart or head, but he decided to dismember them and throw them into the water, so the mermaids could die by pain, bleeding or lack of oxygen.

    • @Gonz_23
      @Gonz_23 5 місяців тому +167

      I always assumed that it was for eating the tails since are fish taild

    • @Coolkid99880
      @Coolkid99880 5 місяців тому +264

      @@Gonz_23 he still could’ve killed them before butchering. Keeping them alive is more brutal than some meat farm that at least kill their animals quickly before butchering them

    • @alexc2626
      @alexc2626 5 місяців тому +188

      also like how in this animatic he deliberately singles out the siren trying to protect and console the others to get thrown overboard first. really twists the knife

    • @travislyonsgary
      @travislyonsgary 5 місяців тому +37

      Mm not ruthless really, cruel certainly. Though I suppose if one means ruthless as in lacking efficiency or ruthless in lacking compassion.

    • @Schinak
      @Schinak 5 місяців тому +39

      Oh you mean letting them taste the kind of death they inflicted on every sailor unlucky enough to cross their path be they mere fishermen or Soldiers on their way to and from war?

  • @x_glitched
    @x_glitched 5 місяців тому +6976

    The unnecessary brutality directed towards the sirens, as well as the discomfort in some of the crew's faces, just shows how much Odysseus has changed. You conveyed that *so* well - it's amazing!

    • @everythingisvision
      @everythingisvision 5 місяців тому +178

      I mean, to be fair, they eat people on the regular.

    • @Phasmania
      @Phasmania 5 місяців тому +276

      @@everythingisvisionright, but there’s a difference between self-defense and cruelty/torture, let alone to a surrendering enemy (and possibly a child considering Siren Penelope points to a daughter)

    • @ian3523
      @ian3523 5 місяців тому +53

      @@Phasmania thats an illusion

    • @StarkKarstVT
      @StarkKarstVT 5 місяців тому +120

      ​@everythingisvision That is just their nature. Like humans eating other living things.
      Though the Sirens prey is often sentient people, at least we can fight back if prepared.
      Certainly is a tough dilemma...

    • @Phasmania
      @Phasmania 5 місяців тому +17

      @@ian3523 don’t think it’s confirmed either way, especially since Ody isn’t hearing the song

  • @Shageru47
    @Shageru47 4 місяці тому +271

    "When does a man become a monster?"
    Right here. It's right here he became a monster. He could've just killed them and it would've been fine. But he went out of his way to make sure they suffered. The lack of remorse in his eyes in that final shot shows that he's no longer a man trying to keep other men alive. He's simply a beast that's lashing out at anything he deems a threat.

    • @lefishe6611
      @lefishe6611 Місяць тому +9

      I mean, the sirens were a threat.

    • @thepineapplegal9099
      @thepineapplegal9099 5 днів тому

      @@lefishe6611 yeah, which doesn’t excuse the excess violence

  • @antoniotrivelloni8191
    @antoniotrivelloni8191 5 місяців тому +2015

    The shift from darkness into light was excellently done, and the background going red when the killing started is such a nice touch. Odysseus breaking the Siren's arm so she couldn't escape is a good detail as well. Amazing animatic

    • @konvex69
      @konvex69 5 місяців тому +58

      fun fact: The siren replied to odyseus "What?" when he reveals the other sirens got abducted. This is a call back to when the cyclops said "You will be the final one to die" and Odysseus replies "What?". Another connection is different beast motif was only ever used in the cyclops saga.

    • @alexislopez6027
      @alexislopez6027 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@konvex69In what song/part was it used?

  • @LilithJc
    @LilithJc 5 місяців тому +3651

    Excuse me?! The way you’re telling this story is insane-the perspective shifts, the siren’s desperate pleas?! It’s all so intense and brutal, I’m obsessed!

    • @firefly6882
      @firefly6882 5 місяців тому +19

      Right??? I was irl looking just.. shocked the entire time. Amazing!!

    • @silenteye9547
      @silenteye9547 5 місяців тому +35

      Brutal? Don't you mean... *Ruthless* ?

    • @konvex69
      @konvex69 5 місяців тому +35

      fun fact: The siren replied to odyseus "What?" when he reveals the other sirens got abducted. This is a call back to when the cyclops said "You will be the final one to die" and Odysseus replies "What?". Another connection is different beast motif was only ever used in the cyclops saga.

    • @addi-13-j3u
      @addi-13-j3u 5 місяців тому +3

      The musical is called epic :)

    • @NyehNyeh12
      @NyehNyeh12 4 місяці тому

      Complementing animation with an ai generated PFP is so...confusing 😅

  • @Phasmania
    @Phasmania 5 місяців тому +2385

    5:10 that transition was CRAZY. By far the most brutal and uncomfortable Different Beast animatic I’ve seen

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist 5 місяців тому +48

      YES!! That part went SO HARD

    • @MezoBear
      @MezoBear 5 місяців тому +23

      It gave me *chills*

    • @lilydevlin7608
      @lilydevlin7608 5 місяців тому +12

      OMG yes it was so beautiful and horrible!

  • @PhoenixAshesArt
    @PhoenixAshesArt 5 місяців тому +1038

    This is the best version of "Different Beast" I've seen yet. It perfectly encapsulates how Odysseus is taking that "ruthless" lesson to heart, along with a little madness in his desperation for home.

    • @spiderlily723
      @spiderlily723 5 місяців тому +9

      Nah, it points out how he learned nothing to me - he's cruel here, while ruthless would be, say, taking sirens as sacrifices to Scylla.

    • @duolingoowl920
      @duolingoowl920 5 місяців тому +19

      @@spiderlily723how exactly are you going to take sirens on a ship for weeks? They’d have to keep beeswax in their ears constantly

    • @spiderlily723
      @spiderlily723 5 місяців тому +3

      @@duolingoowl920 I'm gonna say the same way they keep anything, but you don't seem to know how gags work. ;)

    • @mochiandturtles5642
      @mochiandturtles5642 4 місяці тому +9

      ​​@@spiderlily723 What would the crew eat if the Sirens were kept alive?
      I will have to agree that Ody could have killed the Sirens before butchering (hence needlessly cruel)
      Then again, do you really expect an angst ridden man to think a bit clearer than pure warrior rage?

    • @spiderlily723
      @spiderlily723 4 місяці тому +6

      @@mochiandturtles5642 That's the point: that Odysseus is compromised and not thinking clearly.
      Also eating the tails is fan interpretation, it's not mentioned in the song.

  • @rebeccabrown3252
    @rebeccabrown3252 5 місяців тому +1379

    4:15 omg he broke her arm because she was crawling, with his foot on her stab wound and utter nonchalance on his face. If this was shown out of context you could easily believe he’s the villain in something! My god!

    • @rebeccabrown3252
      @rebeccabrown3252 5 місяців тому +103

      And personally killing the one who pretended to be Penelope AFTER doing all that to her. Wow that is sooooo dark ❤

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 5 місяців тому +18

      I FREAKING AGREE MAN😭😭

    • @koro9088
      @koro9088 5 місяців тому +48

      I mean, Odysseus is a complicated character. I wouldn't exactly say that he's the hero either.

    • @NaBa.O3O
      @NaBa.O3O 5 місяців тому +72

      Odysseus began his journey as just a man trying to go home. But as the song says, when does a man become a monster?
      The sirens aren't good by any means, but even if killing them was justified there were much quicker, cleaner and even easier deaths to inflict than dismemberment followed by drowning.

    • @Zagreo_DK
      @Zagreo_DK 5 місяців тому +33

      ​@@koro9088 It is because they are not like modern heroes but rather a Greek hero, who tend to be tragic or very human, that is why they are a mix of grays, they are justified but they are not innocent.
      Pd: If you see that my English is terrible, it's because I use the translator. :v

  • @mochiandturtles5642
    @mochiandturtles5642 5 місяців тому +1168

    WE ARE DROWNING WITH THE SIRENS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️❗❗‼️ 💯

    • @Blossom319-fx7tg
      @Blossom319-fx7tg 5 місяців тому +7

      W

    • @realdaggerman105
      @realdaggerman105 5 місяців тому +42

      We’re so getting back to Ithaca with this one!

    • @platinumgames1314
      @platinumgames1314 5 місяців тому +19

      ​@@realdaggerman105all of us, no more deaths!

    • @justabitsour3904
      @justabitsour3904 5 місяців тому +31

      @@platinumgames1314Yup! In fact lets grab 6 tourches and celebrate in that cave over there! It'll be a killer party 😎🔥🔥

    • @QueenCami_123
      @QueenCami_123 5 місяців тому +15

      @@justabitsour3904I also found these sick cows! BBQ‼️‼️

  • @cooler-ian
    @cooler-ian 3 місяці тому +322

    OH!!! 6:01 THIS IS SYILA SMELLING THE BLOOD IN THE WATER?? I JUST GOT THAT OMFG-

  • @SariyaJohnson-pr8vv
    @SariyaJohnson-pr8vv 5 місяців тому +594

    I’m so used to the sirens looking so monstrous and evil that seeing them genuinely look terrified and pleading makes Ody’s ruthlessness all the more powerful. 10/10 animatic, I’ll be recommending this to my friends. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

  • @vi.ncents_files
    @vi.ncents_files 5 місяців тому +553

    GUYS AT 5:17, THERE'S A TINY SIREN AMONG THEM AND SHE SEEMS SO YOUNG. I CANNOT. I WANNA CRY SO HARD. THE WAY THAT THE SIREN WAS DESPERATELY TRYING TO PROTECT THE GIRLS BEFORE SHE GOT DRAGGED AWAY IS SO. AUGHHH OH MY GOD THIS STORYBOARDING IS A GENIUS

    • @lincolnpatience6480
      @lincolnpatience6480 5 місяців тому +73

      You're RIGHT! Right before it cuts away you can see her looking absolutely helpless and terrified

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 5 місяців тому +38

      I am not OK😭😭😭😭 SOBBING FROM THIS

    • @renatoandrade3407
      @renatoandrade3407 5 місяців тому +68

      Yup, kid siren indeed was a thing. I can imagine the crew felt a little pity for them, but, hey, ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves

    • @martinvicentefabregas7240
      @martinvicentefabregas7240 4 місяці тому +56

      I appreciate the detail cause in Monster Odysseus mentioned that he didn't mind killing another infant. Now he can see he meant it

  • @chiarab8625
    @chiarab8625 5 місяців тому +193

    I love that Odysseus is not portrayed as cocky or cool in "different beast". He's a tired man, who has suffered so much hes had to become cruel in order to survive. I also like that, once captured, the sirens don't behave as monsters, but as frightened sisters who just don't want to die/see each other die. Odysseus' excessive cruelty towards them is a perfect depiction of his development as a character so far and really shows his anguish and desperation. Very well done!!!

  • @donnguyen1107
    @donnguyen1107 5 місяців тому +670

    Also interesting since later stories say that the sirens are destined to die by one who actually hears their songs and lives and after Odysseus survives by being tied to the mast they actually kill themselves by throwing themselves into the sea

    • @Goomsies
      @Goomsies 5 місяців тому +133

      The part that always gets ignored. I'm surprised anybody here mentioned it. The sirens off themselves when they fail to cause Odysseus to drown himself.

    • @HEMRESSholymoly
      @HEMRESSholymoly 5 місяців тому +34

      WHY LITERALLY EVERYONE IGNORES THIS PART

    • @loonelytoon6523
      @loonelytoon6523 5 місяців тому +50

      Probably because that's not in the Odyssey, just like the kids Ody had with Circe and Calypso

    • @loonelytoon6523
      @loonelytoon6523 5 місяців тому +59

      ​@@GoomsiesIt's for the best if people ignore what's not in the Odyssey, otherwise they'll expect Circe to marry Telemachus and Penelope to marry the son Ody had with Circe.

    • @Goomsies
      @Goomsies 5 місяців тому +40

      @@loonelytoon6523 The Telegony is about as close to fanfiction as you can get when it comes to mythology, but I get your point.

  • @star-wood
    @star-wood 5 місяців тому +844

    0:52 i just noticed..is that the signal for his men to start capturing the other sirens?

    • @kennethmorgan8795
      @kennethmorgan8795 5 місяців тому +130

      That's now my head canon for this animatic

    • @koro9088
      @koro9088 5 місяців тому +116

      Good catch. That might be intentional too. Jorge Rivera-Herrans laces these tiny little intentional changes into the music that only those with a keen ear can hear. For example, the second time Athena sings the "Warrior of the mind" line, she matches Odysseus' tone.

    • @star-wood
      @star-wood 5 місяців тому +9

      @@koro9088 true

    • @sevnin5432
      @sevnin5432 5 місяців тому +8

      And it's on beat

    • @el_rickz359
      @el_rickz359 4 місяці тому +16

      I mean, they were deaf at the time, so they either were paying INSANE attention or Ody didn’t come up with the best signal 😭

  • @Titanusrex1616
    @Titanusrex1616 5 місяців тому +445

    5:55 Odysseus: “Long live the King…”

    • @pinkjunepeanut
      @pinkjunepeanut 5 місяців тому +10

      🦁🦁🦁🧜🧜🧜

    • @Ace.t.
      @Ace.t. 4 місяці тому +10

      ik this is a simple joke but man that works so well for how the whole story goes and how many live were taken or that he took and yet he's still alive...

  • @UserMcUsyface
    @UserMcUsyface 5 місяців тому +291

    That was…uncomfortable. Like, in the best possible way. You really showed EXACTLY what he was doing. He IS ruthless now and this is the best animatic I’ve seen depicting that. Probably the best suffering and different beast animatic I’ve EVER seen. Wow.

  • @emileemonroe2739
    @emileemonroe2739 5 місяців тому +123

    "kill them allllll!" he says while yeeting her torso off the ship. i love how the color red becomes more obvious the more violent the scene and song gets. Amazing.

  • @Deiect97
    @Deiect97 5 місяців тому +168

    As brutal as it is, I can’t entirely blame Odysseus for being brutal towards them. He’s been through so much and away from his love for so long, just for some damned creature trying to block him again, and it takes the FORM OF HIS LOVED ONE. I can understand why he’d be so mad and vindictive in his actions

    • @Dolly.956.
      @Dolly.956. Місяць тому +5

      Same ... Like he said "you wouldn't have spared me" and they wouldn't have, Ruthlessness is Mercy for himself and others who will pass

  • @Bobbywhite98
    @Bobbywhite98 3 місяці тому +78

    2:59 Ody just looking at the camera man with a face of "You seeing this hoe?"

  • @dinosaurking8637
    @dinosaurking8637 5 місяців тому +123

    1:27 that oh no is cute

  • @MezoBear
    @MezoBear 5 місяців тому +207

    That was the most brutal rendition of 'Different Beast' and I am *living* for it. Odysseus stabbing and then slitting the throat of the siren who pretended to be his wife? The brutality with which he dispatched the others? 100/10

  • @ohmy-dooppyyy4923
    @ohmy-dooppyyy4923 5 місяців тому +262

    2:59 "Girl really trying to leave?"

    • @yuxeigoobrrr
      @yuxeigoobrrr 5 місяців тому +26

      HELP I LOVE THAT PART

    • @K20Ashiqin
      @K20Ashiqin 5 місяців тому +25

      It's almost sad, even hurt, she still reaches out to save them

    • @dulcecitarisitas3504
      @dulcecitarisitas3504 2 місяці тому +7

      No the side eye 💀

  • @codydrift1863
    @codydrift1863 5 місяців тому +241

    I like how when hes holding the knife and says "i cant take more risks of not seeing my wife" his grip tightens and hes like shaking with the rage at everything that stands in his way
    Edit: This is the most likes ive seen on one of my comments :)

  • @Munden04
    @Munden04 4 місяці тому +45

    The way the siren who was posing as Penelope gestured for the sirens that got caught not to provoke them, and was literally dragging herself over to them 😭😭

  • @kani841
    @kani841 4 місяці тому +53

    The casual cruelty in the way he handled the siren playing Penelope. the fury and aggression in him clenching the dagger and fully throwing the dismembered sirens off the ship compared to the almost timid push of his crew member. love how he's portrayed here, this was amazing.

  • @noneofurbesswax
    @noneofurbesswax 5 місяців тому +297

    my jaw DROPPED as soon as odysseus stabbed the mermaid, this is brutal and amazing. you definitely conveyed the monster odysseus has decided to become and i’m just in awe of how well you captured everything from the song

  • @aaronyastreb8357
    @aaronyastreb8357 5 місяців тому +107

    I think one of my favorite parts of this rendition is when he says the line "the things I do for you" it's still in his 'warm' tone as he plays along but the immediate danger vibes he gives off still make the siten twitch with the sudden realization that maybe she isnt the hunter here.

  • @Nina-ky8gx
    @Nina-ky8gx 3 місяці тому +32

    His face!! He looks like he feels so bad for the sirens. 5:40

  • @Musime_Illuani
    @Musime_Illuani 4 місяці тому +76

    5:25 this scene impacted me the most, seeing the sirens writhing in pain before they're thrown overboard is such a powerful moment

  • @tuttiflooti
    @tuttiflooti 4 місяці тому +47

    Did Scylla hear this? I swear she must have:
    5:05 Drown in your sorrow and fears
    5:47 choke on your blood and your tears
    5:19 bleed ‘till you’ve run out of tears
    2:33 give up your honor and faith
    5:10 live up your life as a wraith
    5:22 die in the blood where you bathe”

  • @JustNick612
    @JustNick612 3 місяці тому +33

    I love this, especially different beast. So many artists depict Odysseus as shooting the lead siren with an arrow. Having her actually having gotten on the ship and having him stab her just hits so different and its great. Also, the little bits of excessive force on the injured siren before they even start the full-blown violence is just... wow. And the blood red water. God, all of this is just so good.

  • @aflamingidiot4427
    @aflamingidiot4427 5 місяців тому +38

    I ADORE how you made the sirens sorta sympathetic, or at least pitiable. They are terrified and hurt. They so clearly care for one another and are as human as the sailors. Just the focus on the fear in their eyes, them trying to protect one another, begging for their lives, the one shivering in shock from the physical trauma of losing her tail. It's all so visceral and amazing. This disgusts me since I hate body horror but that makes it even better for the context of showing how far Odysseus has fallen.
    Early Odysseus would have spared these sirens, knowing they are doing nothing more than trying to survive in this unforgiving world. But not this Ody.

  • @Kexaru
    @Kexaru 2 місяці тому +25

    Odysseus attitude while beating and killing the first siren, he isn't angry or enjoying it, he's just... doing it, emotionless, total apathy over her suffering.
    Most animations show an angry Ody or show him with a cruel smile, but this apathy towards their suffering is actually... scarier...
    I loved it, absolutely loved your take on this part!

    • @piggy7800
      @piggy7800 2 місяці тому +3

      It's so true. He's just... Done with it at this point. He just wants to go home. No matter what it takes.

  • @yanac13
    @yanac13 5 місяців тому +326

    I really like that your scylla silluette is more like the myths, it looks amazing. Great expressions and designs, you're really amazing

  • @bcfb21
    @bcfb21 4 місяці тому +19

    Ody never tells the others that they’re sailing through scylla’s territory. He read the siren’s lips but that’s probably only a skill he has on the ship. The crew continued following him because none of them knew they were in danger. As soon as ody learned Scylla was the only way he had already made the plan which makes eury’s rage at ody not coming up with a plan in mutiny even worse. Ody did have a plan. His plan worked exactly how he wanted. But the plan was simply to sacrifice the crew and probably eury as well. I imagine eury was viewed as a threat by this point which is why ody orders eury to light the torches. He wanted eury to get taken out too.

  • @JimFaindel
    @JimFaindel 5 місяців тому +246

    You almost made me feel sorry for those man-eating monsters!

    • @lilydragon2129
      @lilydragon2129 5 місяців тому +14

      Almost?

    • @paperjamsans8010
      @paperjamsans8010 5 місяців тому +13

      @@lilydragon2129keep in mind odysseus is correct,they would of just killed more people. while he did kill them cruelly by drowning them. they do the same thing to sailors

    • @twofunnylittlefriends2454
      @twofunnylittlefriends2454 4 місяці тому +7

      @@paperjamsans8010 that’s true, but sirens eat humans; it’s their only food source. That’s like killing them for wanting to live. Plus, they would’ve killed themselves anyway (when a siren fails to capture a human, it will drown itself and turn into stones at the bottom of the ocean). They would’ve died anyway.

    • @paperjamsans8010
      @paperjamsans8010 4 місяці тому +1

      @@twofunnylittlefriends2454 Honestly thats fair enough. but in the end of the day its eat or be eaten. so odysseus is still in the right here but the sirens also have a great alibi. youre right. its like killing an ant eater for eating ants. but still it was more of a self defense situation,while he could of let them go there was most likely going to be punishment for doing that. maybe not by zeus but maybe by ares who seemed pretty angry that he ran from scylla,what do you think he would of done if he ran from the sirens/let them go aswell?
      its more of a morally grey situation. both had rights to do what they did (Also dont sirens brutally murder humans aswell or am i just stupid and cant remember lore(

    • @TanjiroReal
      @TanjiroReal 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@twofunnylittlefriends2454 imo I can't see any reason why people would feel bad for the Sirens. Yes, they're sentient, but they survive off of EATING humans. They were painted in a hugely sympathetic light in this song and in a lot of the animatics, but it feels as though people are forgetting that the Sirens trick sailors, who, mind you, have a life, aspirations, family of their own, and then rip them apart and eat them. And then they have the audacity to ask to be spared, for what? To eat more sailors? I think Odysseus is completely in the right and what he did to the Sirens was deserved- but I respect that others can feel bad for them, everyone has their own opinion.

  •  5 місяців тому +32

    Oh Gods, the way one of the sirens tried to protect her sisters and being the first massacred is heartbreaking😭

  • @Christian-o8t9n
    @Christian-o8t9n 5 місяців тому +58

    2:35 He looks like a freakin plague doctor with that face! So inhuman and cold.

  • @cosmicdust8571
    @cosmicdust8571 3 місяці тому +74

    everyone saying Odysseus was uneccessarily brutal clearly did not listen to the same thing as the rest of us. Like the sirens were literally going to kill them first. The sirens were just as brutal if not WORSE for disguising as Odysseus's wife to try and lure him to his death. Yall act like they didn't go to war and had to kill people there. It's literally life or death here. If he didn't kill them they would kill him and then more sailors. He gave them a taste of their own medicine.

    • @SonarTheBat
      @SonarTheBat 2 місяці тому +10

      They could've killed them more humanely. Cutting the tails off while they're still alive and throwing thrm in the ocean to drown was unnecessarily cruel. They could've killed them faster.

    • @cosmicdust8571
      @cosmicdust8571 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SonarTheBat Pretending to be somebody's wife so you can get to close to them and drown them or sink your fangs into their neck is cruel too. XOXO Play dirty games get dirty prizes. This is a WAR STORY this the ROMANS, by roman standards this is nothing. they live for the kill, just look at the colossuem. Saying they should've had a humane death when they're not humans and whole purpose is to kill the humans and consume them inhumanely is also funny. They got exactly what they dished out and putting these points together, no it was not unnecessarily cruel.

    • @jonathanmette8348
      @jonathanmette8348 2 місяці тому +9

      Ruthlessness isn’t just an awesome song. It is literally the overarching theme of Epic

    • @cosmicdust8571
      @cosmicdust8571 Місяць тому +1

      @@jonathanmette8348 Exactly!!

    • @TheCanonLord
      @TheCanonLord Місяць тому +1

      “Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves” implies doing what you need to do in order to keep your and loved ones safe.
      Odysseus is going overboard. He could have just killed them quickly but he doesn’t he’s torturing the sirens to death. There’s no reason to do that. He doesn’t gain anything. This doesn’t help himself get home any quicker. And he reaches the same result by quickly killing. It’s not even efficient since it’s probably easier to stab a siren in the heart or something.
      Odysseus is being unnecessarily sadistic in the way of killing the sirens.
      The sirens may be bad, we as an audience don’t know if the sirens are just doing this for survival or not but we can agree that the smart thing for Odysseus to do is kill them and be done with it.
      But he doesn’t just kill them, he tortures them to death for no reason and there’s no justification for that
      (And Poetic justice or “I love my wife” aren’t justifications.)
      Also the point of this song is to show that he’s become a monster. If an audience feels sad or conflicted for the sirens then the musical is doing a good job at showing Odysseus being a monster. We’re not supposed to be happy and Different Beasts isn’t a moment of triumph, it’s a moment of unnecessary brutality.

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. 4 місяці тому +25

    2:21 I love how Ody watches the sirens disappear as his crew sneak up on them, and only then does he break things off with Sirenelope.

  • @firefly6882
    @firefly6882 5 місяців тому +177

    The first time i heard this song i was already surprised by the cruelty of it, but this animatic really makes it even more gruesome and even the crew agrees apparently. Esp with Ody being a lot more hands on & leading the violence, while with most other animatics Ody just uses the bow and stuff. Him looking so annoyed w the sirens since the begining too, and the way the whole atmosfere changes from them circleling around the boat like a pack of hyenas to Ody being the big bad (and tbh boderline insane), just... Wow. Masterfully done. Not to mention the anatomy and perspectives!! Gskahdkahdkad im so shocked,, this is amazing 👏

  • @PandaCh1ll
    @PandaCh1ll 22 дні тому +8

    0:50 I love the detail of him snapping to tell his crew “go get them”

  • @SaffeeBear
    @SaffeeBear 5 місяців тому +235

    ive seen your suffering before bUT HOLY SHIT THE LEVELS YOU TOOK WITH DIFFERENT BEAST AAAAAAA ABSOLUTELY INSANE AND GORGEOUS WORK
    the scenes w the killing are so good ohmygod let me just pick up my jaw off the floor NFKFJKDKD the lighting change as soon as they came into light scratches my brain SOOOO GOOD

  • @Pheebasaur182
    @Pheebasaur182 5 місяців тому +118

    Ok woah! This is the first different beast animatic that actually made me super uncomfortable with Ody's brutality most others usually don't show the cutting tails part and they never show him killing Sirenolope outright. Also this is the first animatic to truly make me sympathetic for the sirens I was like "Wait no don't kill them!" for the first time seeing there faces at 4:49 I would also like to say that the fact you made all the sirens different helps with this because instead of copy paste monsters they seem kinda like different "people" in my mind as they all react differently and plead for their lives. Overall great job, great art, and great storytelling! I loved it!!

  • @ItzeltheGoddess
    @ItzeltheGoddess 5 місяців тому +54

    Your interpretation of Different Beast is possibly the most brutal I have seen yet. I absolutely loved it. The blood, the mutilation of the sirens, the red eyes. Odysseus looks so enraged and is being a lot more violent than necessary. I love how even the crew looks uncomfortable and how terrified the sirens look. Odysseus truly looks like a monster compared to the sirens. You can tell how all these years trying to get home is taking a toll on him, how much he is changing into a true beast. I myself felt very uncomfortable watching how he treated the siren.

  • @Winon-lover
    @Winon-lover 2 місяці тому +14

    4:25.. Sliting the siren's neck is probably the worst way someone could kill you with a dagger.

  • @readintimely2517
    @readintimely2517 4 місяці тому +11

    God I love the snap he does! It’s so subtle but it feels and looks like it’s a sign to his men to start casting nets and hunting those sirens!

  • @TheCoCAmbassador
    @TheCoCAmbassador 5 місяців тому +18

    Its amazing how him doing a pretty good thing (killing the sirens that prey on human sailors) is completely tainted by doing it in the most fucked up manner. It shows that he is not being pragmatic but entirely brutal, since the pragmatic thing to do would be to kill them quickly.

  • @----Skelly----
    @----Skelly---- 5 місяців тому +10

    Love how "Penelopes" dress always falls to look like a tail. Great detail

  • @Olivia-pj9wy
    @Olivia-pj9wy 5 місяців тому +25

    Small detail, but I love that “Penelope”’s skirt forms a tail shape before the bridge part

  • @shinypikagaming
    @shinypikagaming 5 місяців тому +47

    That overhead shot with the boat, spinning around and lowering to the water level, that was freakin crazy…

  • @ahsjdjsx
    @ahsjdjsx 5 місяців тому +43

    This is INSANE. This is the most I’ve ever felt like Odysseus is actually the monster through an animatic. Even when he’s pretending to be in love with Penelope in Suffering, it seems bitter. This whole video gives more of the crew’s perspective I feel like, because Odysseus seems entirely like the villain

  • @almond_jellii
    @almond_jellii 5 місяців тому +155

    Amazing! This was so brutal, but is really captures how monstrous Odysseus has become. Your perspectives and transitions are gorgeous!

    • @themelaninartist
      @themelaninartist 5 місяців тому +5

      Brutality? Don't you mean... Ruthlessness?

  • @danibear00
    @danibear00 5 місяців тому +44

    ODY WAS TWEAKING I WAS WATCHING THIS BEING LIKE “ODY LET THE GIRL GO” (Also I love the reverse sort of lighting between suffering and different beast!)

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze3092 5 місяців тому +44

    4:10 the way he nonchalantly breaks her arm gives me chills

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. 4 місяці тому +15

    2:56 OOH, her features change as soon as she leaves the light! That's why the other sirens had pure white eyes and blended into the black of the rocks--because they were in shadow!

  • @conedome6845
    @conedome6845 3 місяці тому +10

    Everything about this is amazing- but I just wanna say the boat being actually based on Greek boats is amazing. A small detail lots of people don’t keep is the scale and special bits

  • @danilynn114
    @danilynn114 5 місяців тому +10

    Now that was DARK. Exactly what it's supposed to be! Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves. And that is 100% what Ody is leading with now

    • @piggy7800
      @piggy7800 2 місяці тому +2

      "Take from you like you took from me" - A very definitely BLIND cyclops 😭😭🙏🙏🙏

    • @MimiWang-gh1ko
      @MimiWang-gh1ko День тому

      Poseidon did make a point about being ruthless…

  • @poro6873
    @poro6873 5 місяців тому +21

    Your expressions are phenomenal. The grief when he says, “I won’t take more risks of not seeing my wife” perfectly matches the song! This by far is the best match to these two songs

  • @Username-nullified
    @Username-nullified 5 місяців тому +122

    THE PERSPECTIVE WORK IS CRAZYYYY THIS IS GREAT

  • @gman7777777777777777
    @gman7777777777777777 5 місяців тому +42

    I love that at 5:32 you made Odysseus eyes red To symbolically and literally say that he was seeing red

  • @LenoraRigel
    @LenoraRigel 4 місяці тому +6

    FINALLY A SUFFERING ANIMATIC WHERE IT WASNT OBVIOUS THAT PENELOPE IS A SIREN!!!!!

  • @VivatheBallerina
    @VivatheBallerina 5 місяців тому +33

    HOLY CRAP THIS IS TERRIFYING. I never thought about how brutal this would be irl.

  • @headofathousandsheepswool
    @headofathousandsheepswool 4 місяці тому +19

    the bit at 5:25 has been haunting me ever since i saw it. i don't know what it is about your version that feels so much more brutal than all the other animatics i've seen, but something about a semi-calm moment where the sirens are not screaming or crying, but just so overwhelmed with pain that they're shaking and paralysed, hits so hard. most of us can't relate, of course, but i think this reaction is far more realistic than continuing to fight or try to get away. they must be bleeding out fast, and they probably can't breathe very well on land for long either. they probably _would_ be lying on the deck unmoving, waiting for death but terrified all the while.
    incredible work, i hated every bit of it /pos

  • @snrps
    @snrps 5 місяців тому +7

    HIS MOVEMENTS ARE PERFECT!!!! OMG!!! JUST THAT MOMENT WHEN HE’S HOLDING HER ARM AND TALKING TO HER SAYS SO. MUCH. you can really tell he’s completely unaffected by the cruelty he’s inflicted just by looking at his expressions and the nonchalant way in his which he acts!!!! this is so good!!!!

  • @SeerOfTime577
    @SeerOfTime577 5 місяців тому +17

    Every single transition here is INCREDIBLE, but the highlight for me, personally, has to be the blood effects--the sheer FLUIDITY of it. Like the stream of blood on the hull of the ship being washed away by the waves, Odysseus leaving a trail of bloody footprints, the blood dripping slowly from the blade. And then the red coming in to shade his face and color the screen-- GAH. It's absolutely phenomenal.

  • @SorraAzul
    @SorraAzul 5 місяців тому +10

    A lot of people in the comments in the comments seems to just be giving you props for different beast. However I think you deserve an even bigger round of applause for suffering. Most of the people currently animating suffering keep adding multiple scenes of Penelope being the siren. They don't understand that less is more and that these siren flashes are actually detracting from the shock value from the end of suffering. By keeping the siren consistently only looking like Penelope and adding your animation transitioning from suffering to different beasts You have visually created a moment that I feel all other animators have missed in the musical. when we finally see Odysseus stab Penelope we are not seeing a man killing a monster who looks like his wife. We see a monster Stabbing his wife. Which makes different beast hit much harder.

  • @meganmay5277
    @meganmay5277 5 місяців тому +119

    My God during the beginning of a different beast he looks so annoyed at the siren

    • @analyticofexistance7847
      @analyticofexistance7847 4 місяці тому +3

      Can you blame him? The siren pretended to be his wife, which is mockery enough, but they also tried to kill him and keep him from his real wife. These things combined? Yeah, it's no wonder Odysseus went extra harsh on them.

  • @irishspartanstudios
    @irishspartanstudios 5 місяців тому +32

    5:25 The siren going to one of her sisters...

  • @caseyandrew5930
    @caseyandrew5930 4 місяці тому +15

    The longer I thought about this scene and what it involves, the more I pictured shark finning-- and you captured that so scarily well. The added violence in the way Odysseus jerks the sirens around by their hair and hucks them off the boat is terrifying-- and I love that 5:39 you can see the regret and reluctance in his men's eyes in following this order. I can't wrap my head around how well this is done.

  • @Kaffo-mLm
    @Kaffo-mLm 3 місяці тому +11

    that "Oh no" at 1:26 is exactly how I imagine the Penelope siren saying that line. Amazing animatic, keep it up!!

  • @sugar-high_kitsune
    @sugar-high_kitsune 5 місяців тому +78

    So, that was *hot*. AND THEN THAT END CARD??? IS SOMEONE GOING TO PORTRAY SCYLLA WITH HER DOG-HEAD LEGS?!

  • @SlapHappyPants
    @SlapHappyPants 5 місяців тому +51

    absolutely obsessed with the brutality you were able to convey in different beast! the colors and style and lines are just so perfectly expressive i adore it

  • @HxwEKat
    @HxwEKat 5 місяців тому +12

    HOLY!! IM ABSOLUTELY CRYING FOR THE SIRENS HERE!
    The brutality!! The horror aspect, the sirens trying to reunite with each other, comforting each other by staying close and hugging only to be ripped apart.
    AHHHH
    YOU DID THESE SONGS JUSTICE
    SUFFERING WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL DANCE AND PLAYFUL BEAT TOWARDS DEATH! BUT THEN DIFFERENT BEAST WAS WHERE YOUR WORK TRULY SHINED THROUGH!!
    ILL MY CRYING FOR A WHILE AS I REPLAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • @Gearcubing
    @Gearcubing 2 місяці тому +6

    2:35 it portraying them dying in their own blood is so cool and true

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. 4 місяці тому +12

    There's so much to love about this animatic (like the eyes of the sirens hidden in the rocks, the physics of the hair ribbon and blood washing away), but I think my favorite is how nonchalant and physically brutal Odysseus is. He played along with this small smile, not even fully committing to it or hamming it up. And it's not like a switch flips; he yanks the ribbon out of the siren's hair, grabs her wrist, tosses her onto the deck, and explains his plans while looking tired and bored.
    Except at 5:05, which I just LOVE, when his front slips and he SNAPS.

  • @2dot72
    @2dot72 5 місяців тому +9

    idk how to explain it but this reminds me so much of that game "Slay the Princess." The way it's kind of uncertain who's really the monster, the art style, it just feels so similar.

  • @cesardeleon2060
    @cesardeleon2060 3 місяці тому +6

    This is the first animatic that I have seen Odysseus be an actual monster, instead of just a shadow figure
    plus mythically accurate Scylla seems more disturbing than other versions
    Guess I have to binge this yt channel now

  • @ethren3344
    @ethren3344 5 місяців тому +9

    The darkest Different Beast animatic I've seen. Awesome work

  • @arianna1786
    @arianna1786 5 місяців тому +22

    6:05 Wowie, seems like karma's about to get back at ya Odysseus

  • @ghostsurfer23
    @ghostsurfer23 5 місяців тому +13

    Just about every Epic animatic I love has one tiny detail in it that is just so perfect. I love the way you depicted Odysseus' face when he says "more than you know." A lot of animatics for that song have in just completely go along with it, because he's bluffing the Siren. Which is a fine way to do it and not at all invalid. But you gave him a certain graveness. It isn't a bluff; "yes, I DO miss Persephone more than YOU know." It really carries the foreshadowing of the massacre. Like, "how DARE you use the image of the most important person in the world to me." Well done.

  • @heavenlytoned5998
    @heavenlytoned5998 3 місяці тому +4

    I'll never get over how cinematic this is.

  • @miragriffin1173
    @miragriffin1173 3 місяці тому +6

    I got so used to seeing Odysseus as babygirl that I forgot that he is in fact a grown man

  • @integrahellsing27
    @integrahellsing27 5 місяців тому +10

    Seeing him so angry and cold gave me shivers, I love how he's just done with everything

  • @mer_acle8101
    @mer_acle8101 5 місяців тому +9

    I'm at a loss for words, this is amazing! Going from Chibi Penelope to "Kill them all" in under six minutes and it all feeling cohesive takes some mad skills!!

  • @Amber-WinterLover
    @Amber-WinterLover 2 місяці тому +2

    Ngl, this is the only animatic of this song I've seen that actually manages to capture how uncomfortable Ody's violence is in this ocassion, his look of just apathy and annoyance rather than straight up exaggerated anger sell that he really is a man made monster, specially with that last shot

  • @Yeonjuns_respect07
    @Yeonjuns_respect07 Місяць тому +2

    I love how it’s shown that some of the sirens still tried to protect and provide comfort to her other sisters despite the situation

  • @Broeckchen
    @Broeckchen 23 дні тому +1

    I love that the entire fandom has collectively decided that the sirens deserve some compassion.

  • @Humifiedalien
    @Humifiedalien 5 місяців тому +4

    Can I just mention that the thumbnail is BEAUTIFUL?!

  • @Gearcubing
    @Gearcubing 2 місяці тому +10

    2:21 i dont know if it was by accident but he said come on to the ship and then you see monsters hiding

    • @--Moondrop--
      @--Moondrop-- 7 днів тому +1

      Oh, I thought it was the guys snatching them at first

    • @Gearcubing
      @Gearcubing 7 днів тому +1

      @--Moondrop-- yeah and they are "monsters"

  • @Orion_44
    @Orion_44 5 місяців тому +5

    That thumbnail looks like it could be from Takehiko Inoue himself, and the animatic itself did not disappoint! One of my favorites, for sure

  • @theskrunklycalico
    @theskrunklycalico 5 місяців тому +24

    This is the most brutal Different Beast animatic I have seen and I love it >:)

  • @Hugzi13
    @Hugzi13 5 місяців тому +5

    This was so good! The only thing I wished was different was that at 4:45 I wish it showed them all with only 1 eye showing to allude to the cyclopses, because his interaction with them is what eventually convinces him to not only be ruthless, but to be cruel too

  • @SuperDidact
    @SuperDidact 3 місяці тому +15

    5:13 bro really saw red

  • @danieldaza2141
    @danieldaza2141 5 місяців тому +12

    That was amazing, loved every single second of the contrast in "Not wasting time in vocals, but might as well walk literally over you a couple of times"

  • @nami345
    @nami345 5 місяців тому +32

    Your Suffering is one of my favorites to watch and you didn't disappoint with Different Beasts either!

  • @madam-mint
    @madam-mint 2 місяці тому +3

    Odysseus is terrifying in this, but his face at 2:59 is mildly funny
    “Get a load of this guy”