I specially like how this version shows the extra struggle of having to row while around there are monster heads shaking the ship and eating your comrades
the headband that was left in the water outside of the cave broke me. He abandoned the Open arms ideals. He completely embraced the fact that there was no return for him
Poseidon referring to Odysseus and his crew as a pack of wolves and them now being slaughtered by that very thing feels very ironic, feels like Odysseus killing his own men
All the "Ithican soldiers as wolves" fits with Ody's style of combat too, as shown in Survive. Harrying, coordination, and so on: not as much pride and glory-seeking as other Greeks are implied to have thanks to all the Warrior Of The Mind training. Although, having said that, Achilles Myrmidons are compared to ants for their discipline in most other versions of this epic cycle...
I love how you timed the row for your lives with ody waiting for Charybdis to stop swallowing and throwing the water back up, rowing with the surge to get through as fast as possible
2:30 as much as i love the depiction of eurylochus handing the torch to someone else, seeing him get _pushed out of the way_ is so much more devastating. Especially because I also headcanon that Polites died to push someone else out of the way (probably Ody) since that would explain why his last thoughts were about kindness. idk it's just neat that your interpretation of events mirrored mine for extra suffering points all around.
Any depiction of Scylla with the dog-waist automatically gets a gold star from me. And the fact that you actually showed Charybdis across from Scylla in the strait automatically makes this my new favorite animatic. Especially because it’s exactly what Homer wanted to reflect in the Odyssey - Odysseus was forced to either sacrifice six of his crew or risk them all dying to Charybdis instead! There was no good option, so Odysseus ended up choosing the lesser evil. While it ended up destroying Eurylochus’s trust in his brother-in-law, he ultimately gave the crew another chance to survive by picking Scylla instead.
True, though if I remember correctly, in Epic: The Musical, Jay actually left the Charybdis out and instead puts them in another song in the Vengeance Saga. This means that Charybdis isn't near Scylla in Epic: The Musical's version of the story or at least not nearby enough to be recognized as an immediate threat. But still, it was cool seeing an interpretation that actually incorporated both monsters! Also, it was cool seeing HOW the boat traveled through the caves and such, especially when most animatics and animations tend to be more focused on Scylla herself and the crew being attacked. (Which isn't a bad thing, it's just cool to see the variety of how the situation is often depicted from a visual standpoint!) But yeah, that's all I have to say. :D
But Odysseus never told about Scylla to anyone in his crew. Neither in the Odyssey, neither in Epic. He keept to himself for obvious reasons (because had he warned them about Scylla, they would likely not even want to go, while Odysseus wanted to return).
@@kinghunter736-g2ois likely that she is close. Odysseus has to pass trough some danger to reach home. First he tried with Aeolus bag but he failed. Them he tried with Scylla but failed. Is likely that Charybdis is close enough to Scylla, and Odysseus was blow up far from Scylla by Zeus storm. So he has to go trough the same way again (and it makes sense if is Charybdis this time since she is only a danger to a ship entirely, but not a single man who can hold into the nearest tree and survive alone, while Scylla is inescapable).
I really like seeing Odysseus's back when he's told about the wind bag. We the audience can't see his face, so it communicates well Eurylochus being shut out after the betrayal.
I mean you cant blame Odysseus. They blame him for so much suffering, when had they just listened to him, they would have already been home, with most of their fleet.
@@1ULTRAKNIGHT If Odysseus kept his identity a secret then they wouldn’t of had to deal with the storm in the first place. Both Odysseus and Eurylochus messed up and it cost them nearly everything. In the end this is a tale of tragedy.
@@zenithstrikerz1720 however, Odysseus, was in a moment of insanity in this depiction of Epic, since Athena was leaving him and punishing him for his consquence of giving a monster "Mercy" to live on, I think he became veery dumb for that very moment... you know as consequence to his action. However, his final bit of luck had let him to the door of Aeolus's island right? so imo, Ody actually got a redeemable moment from his idiot action. but if a goddam king comes back from a Wind God's island with a wierd bag and says that the bag has the storm that was clouding their ship only seconds ago, I would think that the captain king is saying the truth.... and not the notorious wind sprites/ the winions that are often portrayed as playful beings saying it to be treasure. yeah if they said that it was food then it was another matter coz they would be hungry and all, but Ody's mistake was immediately redeemed so long he was keeping the bag closed. they would even have reached home. but for Eurylochus it is not redeemable, coz he broke the naval rules of following captain's orders and jeopardised crew life safety despite being told the truth. Ody was blamed for losing 558 men, but it was not his fault by Eurylochus, had he kept following the order, and he cant even say that "but Ody you never told us about the bag?!" coz he did. so Eurylochus and crew has no place for complaining. and I dont think Ody is at fault for letting his people get smite? smote? smotten? by Zeus's thunder. he was done with their bs never following simple orders. if you are hungry and you can see godly emblems around cattle and you are at shore, you go back to fishing... not cattle slaughtering. If anything, I think that Athena was not giving Ody the brain boost, but balancing the crew's stupidity to become intellectual enough to be at par with the dumbest reasonings that Ody can come up with. ....sorry for the para and thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Respectfully HOLY CRAP no words. Speechless. Scylla - terrifying Crew - terrified Shout out to the one crew dude who pushed Eury out of the way Ody - regretting his life choices Boat - taking damage Eury - has hair
I love how her mouth splits open her chest cavity. This being an animatic with minimal visuals almost adds to it, you gotta imagine what that'd look like. Ribs for teeth?
I'm in AWE. Not only is this more accurate to the mythological description of Scylla- it's also genially terrifying. The emotions presented for both the crew and Odysseus seem so realistic and genuine, which makes it SO conveying to watch! This is honestly my favorite Scylla animatic I've seen so far; can't wait to see more!!
i love your depiction of how eurylochus survives! it gives his anger in mutiny much more depth, not only does he feel the guilt of inadvertently killing his friends, but for one to sacrifice himself for eurylochus? it's just cruel! love love love it!!
I always like the idea that one of the thoughts buzzing around in his head before Mutiny is *"My brother tried to kill me!"* I have seen so many Animatics where Eurylochus is one of the Men Odysseus sets up as a Sacrifice to Scylla. Which would track i guess.
@asdrubalvect6328 i believe jorge has said somewhere that the plan was to have eury killed, but he was saved(?)! even that confirmation alone is enough to make mutiny feel like so much more, i really love this series haha, and I've never thought about what eury could've really been thinking during that moment, for him to be calling back to this moment in his head.. it's an amazing idea!!
i always really like seeing odysseus wrestle with himself in scylla animatics and in this one, he actually looks really scared when the heads of scylla reveal themselves and begin to inch closer, knowing what must be done to avoid the TOTAL loss and bloodshed of his crew, also wonderful work on the scylla design, frightening but fascinating!! anytime someone in the epic fandom remembers the dog heads, i get happy :)
This is the first time I've seen someone illustrate sylla as something other than serpantine. I really like the idea of wolf dragon things. That's so cool!
The descriptions of Scylla are pretty varied. Some talk about her having six heads on long necks that can reach down from her lair to snatch prey, others talk about her waist being adorn with the heads of baying hounds (sometimes interpreted as the hound heads replacing her legs). This is a particularly good blend of just about all the various versions into one monstrous form.
CHARYBDIS CAMEO!!! And ody timing the "row for your lives" around her mouth closing is so OUGHHHH i'm going feral. Scylla has such good doggies i love them :3
I love the idea that Odysseus is quiet in response to Eurylochus’ confession because he knows that he did out out of survival, and he is about to do the same.
In my personal opinion, Eurylochus did not do it for survival. He did it out of greed and mistrust, which is very different. Ody told everyone not to open the wing bag to avoid the storm, the "bag full of treasure" thing was a lie, and a tempting one at that. He spent a long time at war as well, maybe Eury thought it wasn't fair that Ody be the only one to get treasure in some part of his mind, which could have influenced his choice. And in his doubt, he opened the bag. Instead of trusting his brother in law and captain, he let the words of wind creatures sway him. That is not survival.
@@maple_chuuu That or he wanted to give some of the "Treasure" in the bag to his wife when they arrived back home. It's canon that they were within spitting distance of the Island when Eurylochus opened the bag like a big dumb-dumb after all.
I LOVE the buildup to Scylla in this, the skulls at the entrance from the shadows of the dog heads hiding in the rocks to the full reveal was so well done!
I love this song, Scyllas voice sounds so soft at the beginning like a friend comforting you, almost like she knows what he's about to do and she's coaxing him into accepting it. Then when the torches are light and she gets what she wants she still keeps that comforting tone as she rips them apart.
Oh this rocks so hard!!! LOVE that we don't get to see Odysseus' reaction to Eurylechus' confession, it adds so much tension to the whole thing! And the dog heads blending into the shadows, until the full reveal? It's damn incredible!!!!
i love this scylla design holy cow!! also the bit with scylla singing behind eurylochus and then bringing her hands together on "we both know what it takes to survive"? impeccable. absolutely horrifying.
This has to be one of the top versions of Scylla I’m down for!! This one being very accurate to Greek Mythology, & with the actual struggles it is to deal with this beast while maintaining a ship, as well as Odysseus actually being terrified knowing what has to be done. Gigi’s version of Scylla being horrifying eels as heads instead of the dogs her disguise as a woman before revealing her true self. It’s also interesting with different perspectives from the crew & her. With hers (theirs if I’m wrong) it’s clear to see the struggles of Odysseus & Eurylochus after he tells the truth about him opening the wind bag. Last but not least with the canon version from the livestream, beautiful yet horrifying as well with more gore-some moments but this animatic makes it even more terrifying when it comes to gore.
Holy the words I cannot begin to describe how amazing this is. Scylla looks so monstrous I love the addition though of the heads looking like dogs. You don't see much of those in the animatics
Lol I loved how i just watched all this blood and carnage men. Men were literally EATEn by these monsters and then you just see the dog heads like puppies at 2:42
God that shot of Eurylochus seeming in the grasp of Scylla at 1:00 is so good. Like those words put him on the chopping block in a sense in Ody's mind.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE SCYLLA EVER. She looks so monstrous, and she has DOG HEADS!!! The teeth, the eyes narrowing at the sight of her prey, the brutality, the rockiness of the waves, it’s all so perfect
Finally someone did the myth accurate take of the heads being wolves! I love the sea monster designs and all but the original concept was just sitting there untouched. Great take on it! Beautifully terrifying design and animation
I really like the detail that almost at the end the dog heads kinda leave an opening for the ship to get out. It's like saying "You payed your price, we require no more you may go"
Cool idea on making the heads wolf-like. Not only does it tie in with the continuous wolf comparison in the musical, it also looks rad as balls. Long necked fish and lizards? Been there done that. Long necked wolves? Terrifying
I loved the foreshadowing you did with Eurylochus when Scylla clapped her hands. It gives great weight to how much Odysseus regrets what will happen next. Great animatic! 💕
Finally someone added Charybdis on one side and Scylla on the other❤❤❤. Absolutely spot on. I love how Odysseus' beard looks like her fangs as he sings with her at the end. Brillant job.❤❤❤
1:07 Ooh, I love how you turned that into Ody envisioning Eurylochus's death. It pairs well with the lyrics, how Scylla is singing his thoughts. 1:22 Was that Odysseus steering the ship TOWARDS Scylla?? He took hold of the rudder...2:18 Ohh, actually, he's trying to save them....(or is he?) 1:29 Whirlpool...Charybdis reference? 1:58 NEVERMIND, that was of Scylla's mythologically-accurate wolf mouths! 2:30 Ouch...I like that this establishes the crew return Eurylochus's loyalty, so their mutiny to save him makes even more sense. 2:42 The heads are just good dogs?? Aw... 2:26 Love that one of the ropes came untied. Lovely detail.
I heard of a headcanon where Odysseus WAS planning on saving the crew but after Eurylochus admits he opened the bag Odysseus lost any care and let them take the torches
I think your animatic is the only one that actually shows Scylla freeing up the way out of her lair once she has feasted. Which I was missing so much in other interpretations! This is an exchange, the trade has been made, the cost paid, and it makes such a huge impact to see Scylla finalize things with such a clear gesture.
what i love about this song is how in the beginning we're led to believe that scylla singing about "breaking bonds" and "hiding secrets" is in reference to eurylochus opening the wind bag, but as the song goes on we realize she's talking about odysseus hiding the fact that he's about to sacrifice 6 men
YES YES THE DOG HEADS!! most people give her eels or like angler fish like heads (which I have no issue with, creative liberty!) but in the actual myth her six heads are dog heads!! I love this, thank you!!!
Man I fucking love seeing everyone’s different interpretations of Scylla. This is the only one I’ve seen where Scylla has her dogs instead of serpents.
Watching other animatics I keep having internal baby tantrums of "no, that's not accurate". Not only is this accurate, but probably my favorite depiction of Scylla ever. Lots of people struggle with the 'lady with a torso of six dogs' as a baseline, let alone make it terrifying. Amazing work.
All of the animatic is outstanding but my favourite moment is 2:19 to 2:33, scylla’s twirl and mouth opening, the dog faces ripping the body apart, the change of POV to the dogs mouth, the way he gets pushed out of the way UGH I love this
It's awesome that you've actually made her heads dog like as they're supposed to be, every version I've seen of schools makes them snakes but this is much more horrifying. It's also always struck me as strange that Odysseus never tries to fight scylla, it's made me think she must be one of the strongest monster in Greek myth, no hero ever slays her.
Imagine being so terrifyingly strong, that even God of Sea is afraid of you. I still think Poseidon would have won but it would take him many days to put Scylla down and even then barely.
Yes! Myth accurate Scylla with the wolf heads!! The design for her main body is amazing too, the way you animated all her teeth when she’s singing! And the movement of the ship, SO GOOD!!!
I’m obsessed with the section at 0:55 - 1:09 . I’ve never seen someone overlap Scylla and Eurylochus’ parts visually like that, and to have it reflect Odysseus’ realization of what he has to do and that he really WILL do all that it takes to survive is magical. It’s so well portrayed in just a few shots and I’m OBSESSED with it.
I mean this seriously, once you've got more practice and are more experienced than even now, you will be a legend within the Epic community. Perhaps even further than just Epic as well.
Lore Accurate Scylla! Watching them hunting and murdering the sailors like a pack of wolves and the adrenaline of trying to sail through that is amazing! I actually felt my heart racing as the men are trying their hardest to row out of the cave while their men are getting killed.
Finally someone depicts a myth-accurate Scylla! I get why more people go the more 'sea serpent' or eel route with the six heads; dogs aren't necessarily considered scary. But the way you portrayed them here is amazing and every bit as gruesome, if not more!
Oh my god the thumbnail alone has me entranced! This is so beautiful and detailed, I love your design of Scylla! And the part where Eurlyochus apologizes and we barely see Odyesseus’ expression is so chilling…
I love this one so much!! & that’s Daying something because this song probably has the most predictable yet unuiqe animatics. I like how at the end Scylla looks through the small crack in the cave as it kinda awnsers a question I’ve had: why can’t Scylla just leave her rock island? She used to be a nymph so she can swim. Atleast this one awnsers with “ itty bitty entrance & exit causes a cave enclosure type thing”. I love also how at this moment ( 2:21 ) she dances with joy, showcasing she is a full grown monster & she enjoys going for the kill. She’s hunting in her terrain & enjoying every bit of it
I think, in one depiction at least, she had twelve legs that were stuck to the rock somehow, and that's why she couldn't leave. Her heads and the forefront of her body were long as hell and could slither around to snatch sailors, but she couldn't actually escape the boundaries of her lair. Another explanation I heard was that Scylla being there was intentional on her part, and was just out of sadism.
Amazing character design. I can absolutely see Poseidon being wary of tangling with this lady. Also, kudos for referencing the original material and using doggies.
THE FIRST ONE I'VE SEEN USE CHARYBDIS IN ONE OF THEIR ANIMATICS FOR THIS SONG!!! EXCELLENT!!! Also LOVE the use of water to shove them FAST through what really *should* be a massive cave (otherwise how would it help them get home??? Wouldn't Poseidon just wait outside on the other side if it was a short trip through her cave??) Love it~ And love the idea of her helping to nudge Ody's decision about the men. As if he was on the fence and she gave him the last push.
THE FACT THEY START SCYLLA OFF AS STRAIGHT DEMONIC I CAN'T To be honest, if you're a seaman, especially in Ancient Greece, you'll expect to see some type of eel-like sea creature. I 100% guarantee NONE OF THEM expected snarling, demonic wolf-serpent hybrids. Someone needs to refine this Scylla and post it as its own thing, I honestly like this one better than Gigi's (Though hers is absolutely spectacular in its own right!)
Love the inclusion of what i assume is Charybdis and Odysseus having one final consideration of whether or not he will risk it or give up the morals he tried to keep before "Monster" Making this feel more like the final nail in the coffin for Odysseus' Ruthlessness to be fully realized
I'm speechless of how amazing this animatic is, like - SCYLLA'S DESIGN? YOU MADE HER CHILLING BUT IN SUCH AN ARTISTIC WAY THAT I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS! The stains of blood in the ship right after they get to leave, the whole "Scylla lunch time" sequence with her heads as wolves... YOU NAILED IT!
I reallu like how you went about doing the dog heads without compromising any of the sea-monster menace factor! Also props for showing off Charybdis as well!
This is so well done and absolutely terrifying. All amazing details from the starvation of the crew, Odysseus snapping after Eurylochus confesses and Scylla capturing the image of Eurylochus, the struggle to row the boat, a crew member saving Eurylochus rather than Eurylochus passing the torch to them, the blood dripping from the ship after the escape. This is all so incredible. Great work!
this is such a good set up for when he picks the crew to die instead of himself with Zeus. He's shown that he's willing to kill others to save himself, he has this rationale that it's only six lives instead of the whole crew, but there's definitely a reason as to why he didn't pick up a torch himself and instead told eurylochus to do it. it makes sense as to why when given the option, he choses himself over everyone else. it's selfish and horrible but also just *chefs kiss*
Aaaaand I have officially found the Scylla winner for my list of favorite Epic animatics! 🥳 That was incredible. And terrifying. I love the attention to detail. The representation of the myth. The pack of wolves being devoured by wolves. All of it. Top to bottom. Fantastic
I think this is my favorite Sylla design. And that considering she's like a siren with a beautiful voice like an angel but a terrifying appearance of a demon. And have her pets wolves hounds instead of being like a sea serpent.
First of all I love the dog/wolf heads!! And your artstyle and all the details are amazing this is definitely one of my favorite animatics Now for story commentary bc I noticed after re watching a lot of different animatics is that Odysseus doesn't respond to Eurylochus' confession and apology literally at all and instead there's a long silence before he gives him specifically the command to light up the torches. I know that's probably because he's the second in command, but Ody is doing that knowing that whoever is holding one of them is getting sacrificed to Scylla. Therefore it's fairly likely that Eurylochus will be one of them.
I love how gaunt everyone looks in your animatics. Even Eurylochus, who’s usually depicted as huge, is thin and sunken-cheeked. They’ve been on the sea for two years, and by this point they’re slowly starving! That design decision helps a lot with supporting their decisions in Mutiny.
THAT makes it so much better, because then when the Vengance Saga comes out, it throws the hint that Poseidon freed Charybdis from her prison much more than in the actual story of EPIC
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I specially like how this version shows the extra struggle of having to row while around there are monster heads shaking the ship and eating your comrades
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Plus you can _feel_ the currents of Charybdis fucking with them. Its inclusion absolutely multiplies the external struggle.
Suddenly its i love rowing duty 😁😄
So glad someone added the other monster in the strait. To show the perable between which path to pick between the two.
its literally 3 am and i just said out loud "by the way real" i think i woke someone up
Dog-headed Scylla, and CHARYBDIS INCLUDED OMG I'M IN LOVE
Seriously. So many of these animatics forget Charybdis even exists, much less that he's right next to Scylla.
OH THATS WHAT THAT WAS. Ok. That makes more sense now 😂
@@benjaminklaassen4722 well he is mentioned in a later song
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I thought Charybdis was meant to be female.
Where did Charybdis show up? What’s the time stamp for her arrival?
the headband that was left in the water outside of the cave broke me. He abandoned the Open arms ideals. He completely embraced the fact that there was no return for him
I think that specific on her grabbed off siren Penelope in ani’s different beast animatic
Poor Polities😢
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@zap4th368 It being the one from the false-Penelope was my reading too, but it wouldn't make as much sense for that to have happened so close.
@@Isaac-hm6ih I mean, the end stinger of different beast did show the blood reaching to one of scylla’s heads
“You’re quiet today.” “We’re trying to sneak past a Kaiju, STHU.”
To be fair he didn’t tell any of them about that
TBF, the distrust was brewing for a long time
@@RedFeralWolf No, you do have a valid point. It just seems like a messed up situation for everyone involved.
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@@RedFeralWolfhe wasn't even trying to sneak he was already fully ready to sacrifice 6 of his men. Hence him lighting the six tourches
Poseidon referring to Odysseus and his crew as a pack of wolves and them now being slaughtered by that very thing feels very ironic, feels like Odysseus killing his own men
Yeah! Plus all the "little wolf" imagery for Telemachus and the "dogs" of the suitors.
I believe they are dogs, not wolves. That’s what they are in mythology.
All the "Ithican soldiers as wolves" fits with Ody's style of combat too, as shown in Survive. Harrying, coordination, and so on: not as much pride and glory-seeking as other Greeks are implied to have thanks to all the Warrior Of The Mind training.
Although, having said that, Achilles Myrmidons are compared to ants for their discipline in most other versions of this epic cycle...
Scylla’s heads were always supposed to be wolves, really happy this thematic irony finally gets to be seen ^_^
@@AnkhAnanku *dogs
I love the depiction of Scylla and her heads as a pack of wolfs and their master
Actually they’re more like dog heads rather than wolf
fun fact scylla is greek for bitch, used in the same way as english
@@davidcarter9959yeah in the original i think, in addition to the other monstrous heads, she had dog heads at her base
The pack of wolves is swimming with the shark now
@@aweirdlookingcat3707 no, a pack of much bigger, scarier, more monstrous wolves
Me when the wolf heads are happily panting and being petted by Scylla at the end: AWE HE'S SO CUTE!!! Such a good boy!!
He don't know he did wrong leave him alone
I love how you timed the row for your lives with ody waiting for Charybdis to stop swallowing and throwing the water back up, rowing with the surge to get through as fast as possible
Omg I was *wondering* whose mouth that was that Ody was looking into at first. I thought it was one of the dogs. Just 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
2:30 as much as i love the depiction of eurylochus handing the torch to someone else, seeing him get _pushed out of the way_ is so much more devastating. Especially because I also headcanon that Polites died to push someone else out of the way (probably Ody) since that would explain why his last thoughts were about kindness.
idk it's just neat that your interpretation of events mirrored mine for extra suffering points all around.
RIGHT?? Like OH MY GOSH the extra tragedy :((((
Couldn't be Ody. Cyclops promised to kill him last. Could have went for him when they were all stunned.
Any depiction of Scylla with the dog-waist automatically gets a gold star from me.
And the fact that you actually showed Charybdis across from Scylla in the strait automatically makes this my new favorite animatic. Especially because it’s exactly what Homer wanted to reflect in the Odyssey - Odysseus was forced to either sacrifice six of his crew or risk them all dying to Charybdis instead! There was no good option, so Odysseus ended up choosing the lesser evil.
While it ended up destroying Eurylochus’s trust in his brother-in-law, he ultimately gave the crew another chance to survive by picking Scylla instead.
True, though if I remember correctly, in Epic: The Musical, Jay actually left the Charybdis out and instead puts them in another song in the Vengeance Saga. This means that Charybdis isn't near Scylla in Epic: The Musical's version of the story or at least not nearby enough to be recognized as an immediate threat. But still, it was cool seeing an interpretation that actually incorporated both monsters!
Also, it was cool seeing HOW the boat traveled through the caves and such, especially when most animatics and animations tend to be more focused on Scylla herself and the crew being attacked. (Which isn't a bad thing, it's just cool to see the variety of how the situation is often depicted from a visual standpoint!)
But yeah, that's all I have to say. :D
But Odysseus never told about Scylla to anyone in his crew. Neither in the Odyssey, neither in Epic. He keept to himself for obvious reasons (because had he warned them about Scylla, they would likely not even want to go, while Odysseus wanted to return).
@@kinghunter736-g2ois likely that she is close.
Odysseus has to pass trough some danger to reach home. First he tried with Aeolus bag but he failed. Them he tried with Scylla but failed. Is likely that Charybdis is close enough to Scylla, and Odysseus was blow up far from Scylla by Zeus storm. So he has to go trough the same way again (and it makes sense if is Charybdis this time since she is only a danger to a ship entirely, but not a single man who can hold into the nearest tree and survive alone, while Scylla is inescapable).
He also stayed close too long, thinking he could kill her, and lost a second batch of six. At least in a version I read.
Where do you see Charybdis, which minute? I can't see her...
FINALLY
A mythologically accurate Scylla :DDD
WHERE ARE THE 12 LEGS ARTISTS?? I WANT TO SEE A 12 LEGGED ABOMINATION!
@@yaboyospoons7570 She's in the water in a dark enviorment, you aren't seeing legs unless she walks onto shallow water.
Would
@sabertoothno34 I know dude, I was making a joke.
I really like seeing Odysseus's back when he's told about the wind bag. We the audience can't see his face, so it communicates well Eurylochus being shut out after the betrayal.
I mean you cant blame Odysseus. They blame him for so much suffering, when had they just listened to him, they would have already been home, with most of their fleet.
@@1ULTRAKNIGHT If Odysseus kept his identity a secret then they wouldn’t of had to deal with the storm in the first place. Both Odysseus and Eurylochus messed up and it cost them nearly everything. In the end this is a tale of tragedy.
@@zenithstrikerz1720 however, Odysseus, was in a moment of insanity in this depiction of Epic, since Athena was leaving him and punishing him for his consquence of giving a monster "Mercy" to live on, I think he became veery dumb for that very moment... you know as consequence to his action. However, his final bit of luck had let him to the door of Aeolus's island right? so imo, Ody actually got a redeemable moment from his idiot action. but if a goddam king comes back from a Wind God's island with a wierd bag and says that the bag has the storm that was clouding their ship only seconds ago, I would think that the captain king is saying the truth.... and not the notorious wind sprites/ the winions that are often portrayed as playful beings saying it to be treasure. yeah if they said that it was food then it was another matter coz they would be hungry and all, but Ody's mistake was immediately redeemed so long he was keeping the bag closed. they would even have reached home. but for Eurylochus it is not redeemable, coz he broke the naval rules of following captain's orders and jeopardised crew life safety despite being told the truth. Ody was blamed for losing 558 men, but it was not his fault by Eurylochus, had he kept following the order, and he cant even say that "but Ody you never told us about the bag?!" coz he did. so Eurylochus and crew has no place for complaining. and I dont think Ody is at fault for letting his people get smite? smote? smotten? by Zeus's thunder. he was done with their bs never following simple orders. if you are hungry and you can see godly emblems around cattle and you are at shore, you go back to fishing... not cattle slaughtering. If anything, I think that Athena was not giving Ody the brain boost, but balancing the crew's stupidity to become intellectual enough to be at par with the dumbest reasonings that Ody can come up with.
....sorry for the para and thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Respectfully HOLY CRAP no words. Speechless.
Scylla - terrifying
Crew - terrified
Shout out to the one crew dude who pushed Eury out of the way
Ody - regretting his life choices
Boat - taking damage
Eury - has hair
Hotel - Trivago
I love the myth accuracy AND THE HEADBAND FLOATING ON THE WATER
The headband💔
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I love how her mouth splits open her chest cavity. This being an animatic with minimal visuals almost adds to it, you gotta imagine what that'd look like. Ribs for teeth?
I'm in AWE. Not only is this more accurate to the mythological description of Scylla- it's also genially terrifying. The emotions presented for both the crew and Odysseus seem so realistic and genuine, which makes it SO conveying to watch! This is honestly my favorite Scylla animatic I've seen so far; can't wait to see more!!
i love your depiction of how eurylochus survives! it gives his anger in mutiny much more depth, not only does he feel the guilt of inadvertently killing his friends, but for one to sacrifice himself for eurylochus? it's just cruel! love love love it!!
I always like the idea that one of the thoughts buzzing around in his head before Mutiny is *"My brother tried to kill me!"*
I have seen so many Animatics where Eurylochus is one of the Men Odysseus sets up as a Sacrifice to Scylla.
Which would track i guess.
@asdrubalvect6328 i believe jorge has said somewhere that the plan was to have eury killed, but he was saved(?)! even that confirmation alone is enough to make mutiny feel like so much more, i really love this series haha, and I've never thought about what eury could've really been thinking during that moment, for him to be calling back to this moment in his head.. it's an amazing idea!!
i always really like seeing odysseus wrestle with himself in scylla animatics and in this one, he actually looks really scared when the heads of scylla reveal themselves and begin to inch closer, knowing what must be done to avoid the TOTAL loss and bloodshed of his crew, also wonderful work on the scylla design, frightening but fascinating!! anytime someone in the epic fandom remembers the dog heads, i get happy :)
This is the first time I've seen someone illustrate sylla as something other than serpantine. I really like the idea of wolf dragon things. That's so cool!
It's what she is in the myth. She has dog heads coming from her waist/thighs.
The descriptions of Scylla are pretty varied. Some talk about her having six heads on long necks that can reach down from her lair to snatch prey, others talk about her waist being adorn with the heads of baying hounds (sometimes interpreted as the hound heads replacing her legs). This is a particularly good blend of just about all the various versions into one monstrous form.
CHARYBDIS CAMEO!!! And ody timing the "row for your lives" around her mouth closing is so OUGHHHH i'm going feral. Scylla has such good doggies i love them :3
Yes! Dog heads! Shark teeth! Are there 12 legs? And at 1:29 we get Charybdis. I love a canon accurate portrayal.
I love the idea that Odysseus is quiet in response to Eurylochus’ confession because he knows that he did out out of survival, and he is about to do the same.
In my personal opinion, Eurylochus did not do it for survival. He did it out of greed and mistrust, which is very different. Ody told everyone not to open the wing bag to avoid the storm, the "bag full of treasure" thing was a lie, and a tempting one at that. He spent a long time at war as well, maybe Eury thought it wasn't fair that Ody be the only one to get treasure in some part of his mind, which could have influenced his choice. And in his doubt, he opened the bag. Instead of trusting his brother in law and captain, he let the words of wind creatures sway him. That is not survival.
@@maple_chuuu That or he wanted to give some of the "Treasure" in the bag to his wife when they arrived back home.
It's canon that they were within spitting distance of the Island when Eurylochus opened the bag like a big dumb-dumb after all.
@@asdrubalvect6328 Very true!! I love theorizing about character motivations like this. For all we know, we could both be right :D!
Pretty cool to see a mythologically accurate scylla
Nice work mate🩵✨️
I LOVE the buildup to Scylla in this, the skulls at the entrance from the shadows of the dog heads hiding in the rocks to the full reveal was so well done!
I like how at least one of canine heads look up at Scylla at the end like "did we do good? :D"
I love this song, Scyllas voice sounds so soft at the beginning like a friend comforting you, almost like she knows what he's about to do and she's coaxing him into accepting it. Then when the torches are light and she gets what she wants she still keeps that comforting tone as she rips them apart.
Oh this rocks so hard!!! LOVE that we don't get to see Odysseus' reaction to Eurylechus' confession, it adds so much tension to the whole thing! And the dog heads blending into the shadows, until the full reveal? It's damn incredible!!!!
i love this scylla design holy cow!! also the bit with scylla singing behind eurylochus and then bringing her hands together on "we both know what it takes to survive"? impeccable. absolutely horrifying.
2:43 the dog head: "Was I a good boy? Was I? Was I???"
2:26 you can’t tell me these two weren’t best friends
Its so sad.
This has to be one of the top versions of Scylla I’m down for!!
This one being very accurate to Greek Mythology, & with the actual struggles it is to deal with this beast while maintaining a ship, as well as Odysseus actually being terrified knowing what has to be done.
Gigi’s version of Scylla being horrifying eels as heads instead of the dogs her disguise as a woman before revealing her true self. It’s also interesting with different perspectives from the crew & her. With hers (theirs if I’m wrong) it’s clear to see the struggles of Odysseus & Eurylochus after he tells the truth about him opening the wind bag.
Last but not least with the canon version from the livestream, beautiful yet horrifying as well with more gore-some moments but this animatic makes it even more terrifying when it comes to gore.
Holy the words I cannot begin to describe how amazing this is. Scylla looks so monstrous I love the addition though of the heads looking like dogs. You don't see much of those in the animatics
Lol I loved how i just watched all this blood and carnage men. Men were literally EATEn by these monsters and then you just see the dog heads like puppies at 2:42
Did you just open this song with a shot of Polites' discarded headband finally getting caught and no longer able to follow them!?
... nice touch...
God that shot of Eurylochus seeming in the grasp of Scylla at 1:00 is so good. Like those words put him on the chopping block in a sense in Ody's mind.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE SCYLLA EVER. She looks so monstrous, and she has DOG HEADS!!! The teeth, the eyes narrowing at the sight of her prey, the brutality, the rockiness of the waves, it’s all so perfect
Finally someone did the myth accurate take of the heads being wolves! I love the sea monster designs and all but the original concept was just sitting there untouched. Great take on it! Beautifully terrifying design and animation
I really like the detail that almost at the end the dog heads kinda leave an opening for the ship to get out. It's like saying "You payed your price, we require no more you may go"
I love how they all look thin and half starved. Really shows how the years have worn them all down
Cool idea on making the heads wolf-like. Not only does it tie in with the continuous wolf comparison in the musical, it also looks rad as balls. Long necked fish and lizards? Been there done that. Long necked wolves? Terrifying
it’s also semi-mythologically accurate
I loved the foreshadowing you did with Eurylochus when Scylla clapped her hands. It gives great weight to how much Odysseus regrets what will happen next. Great animatic! 💕
SCYLLA SPINNING LIKE SHE IS ENJOYING THE BLOODSHED AT 2:19 IS SUCH A COOL SHOT
Finally someone added Charybdis on one side and Scylla on the other❤❤❤. Absolutely spot on. I love how Odysseus' beard looks like her fangs as he sings with her at the end.
Brillant job.❤❤❤
1:07 Ooh, I love how you turned that into Ody envisioning Eurylochus's death. It pairs well with the lyrics, how Scylla is singing his thoughts.
1:22 Was that Odysseus steering the ship TOWARDS Scylla?? He took hold of the rudder...2:18 Ohh, actually, he's trying to save them....(or is he?)
1:29 Whirlpool...Charybdis reference? 1:58 NEVERMIND, that was of Scylla's mythologically-accurate wolf mouths!
2:30 Ouch...I like that this establishes the crew return Eurylochus's loyalty, so their mutiny to save him makes even more sense.
2:42 The heads are just good dogs?? Aw...
2:26 Love that one of the ropes came untied. Lovely detail.
WRONG, charybdis cameo real
Technically he does steer closer to Scylla because he CANNOT get close to Charybdis or they all die.
I heard of a headcanon where Odysseus WAS planning on saving the crew but after Eurylochus admits he opened the bag Odysseus lost any care and let them take the torches
I think your animatic is the only one that actually shows Scylla freeing up the way out of her lair once she has feasted. Which I was missing so much in other interpretations! This is an exchange, the trade has been made, the cost paid, and it makes such a huge impact to see Scylla finalize things with such a clear gesture.
what i love about this song is how in the beginning we're led to believe that scylla singing about "breaking bonds" and "hiding secrets" is in reference to eurylochus opening the wind bag, but as the song goes on we realize she's talking about odysseus hiding the fact that he's about to sacrifice 6 men
Finally, a canon design of Scylla, I love it. This is the best version I've seen so far.
I think I've found my new favorite Scylla animatic.
I love how everyone who designs scylla either goes for runway model or junji ito monster. There is no other option
Scylla was feeling herself this whole time. Especially 2:21
0:42 the blood on the floor~
YES YES THE DOG HEADS!!
most people give her eels or like angler fish like heads (which I have no issue with, creative liberty!) but in the actual myth her six heads are dog heads!! I love this, thank you!!!
This is the most terrifying version of Scylla and I love it. Also the blood being the only visible color and so prominent is amazing.
Man I fucking love seeing everyone’s different interpretations of Scylla.
This is the only one I’ve seen where Scylla has her dogs instead of serpents.
Watching other animatics I keep having internal baby tantrums of "no, that's not accurate". Not only is this accurate, but probably my favorite depiction of Scylla ever. Lots of people struggle with the 'lady with a torso of six dogs' as a baseline, let alone make it terrifying. Amazing work.
All of the animatic is outstanding but my favourite moment is 2:19 to 2:33, scylla’s twirl and mouth opening, the dog faces ripping the body apart, the change of POV to the dogs mouth, the way he gets pushed out of the way UGH I love this
It's awesome that you've actually made her heads dog like as they're supposed to be, every version I've seen of schools makes them snakes but this is much more horrifying. It's also always struck me as strange that Odysseus never tries to fight scylla, it's made me think she must be one of the strongest monster in Greek myth, no hero ever slays her.
Imagine being so terrifyingly strong, that even God of Sea is afraid of you. I still think Poseidon would have won but it would take him many days to put Scylla down and even then barely.
Yes! Myth accurate Scylla with the wolf heads!!
The design for her main body is amazing too, the way you animated all her teeth when she’s singing!
And the movement of the ship, SO GOOD!!!
I’m obsessed with the section at 0:55 - 1:09 . I’ve never seen someone overlap Scylla and Eurylochus’ parts visually like that, and to have it reflect Odysseus’ realization of what he has to do and that he really WILL do all that it takes to survive is magical. It’s so well portrayed in just a few shots and I’m OBSESSED with it.
God, the detail of the bandana/headband/scarf from the end of different beast is such a great detail
BIBLICALLY ACCURATE SCYLLA LET’S GOOOOOOO🎉
I mean this seriously, once you've got more practice and are more experienced than even now, you will be a legend within the Epic community. Perhaps even further than just Epic as well.
Lore Accurate Scylla! Watching them hunting and murdering the sailors like a pack of wolves and the adrenaline of trying to sail through that is amazing! I actually felt my heart racing as the men are trying their hardest to row out of the cave while their men are getting killed.
I love all the genuinely terrifying scylla designs that are coming out with more animatic atm. Especially this one, wow!
Finally someone depicts a myth-accurate Scylla! I get why more people go the more 'sea serpent' or eel route with the six heads; dogs aren't necessarily considered scary. But the way you portrayed them here is amazing and every bit as gruesome, if not more!
Oh my god the thumbnail alone has me entranced! This is so beautiful and detailed, I love your design of Scylla! And the part where Eurlyochus apologizes and we barely see Odyesseus’ expression is so chilling…
OMFG POLITES’S HEADBAND IN THE BEGINNING!!! WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT?!?!?!
The inclusion of Charybdis is incredible, it really makes Odysseus's wit shine
Where was Charybdis? I heard multiple people mention it but I never saw it.
Nvm, I saw it after I watched it again
@@crazy4schleich852 Sorry I just saw your comment! In case anyone else reads this and is wondering, we saw it inhale and exhale at 1:58
This is mu favorite animation of scylla ive seen 10/10
I love the way this version shows Odysseus’ facial journey-his resignation turning to determination
I love this one so much!! & that’s Daying something because this song probably has the most predictable yet unuiqe animatics.
I like how at the end Scylla looks through the small crack in the cave as it kinda awnsers a question I’ve had: why can’t Scylla just leave her rock island? She used to be a nymph so she can swim. Atleast this one awnsers with “ itty bitty entrance & exit causes a cave enclosure type thing”.
I love also how at this moment ( 2:21 ) she dances with joy, showcasing she is a full grown monster & she enjoys going for the kill. She’s hunting in her terrain & enjoying every bit of it
I think, in one depiction at least, she had twelve legs that were stuck to the rock somehow, and that's why she couldn't leave. Her heads and the forefront of her body were long as hell and could slither around to snatch sailors, but she couldn't actually escape the boundaries of her lair. Another explanation I heard was that Scylla being there was intentional on her part, and was just out of sadism.
Amazing character design.
I can absolutely see Poseidon being wary of tangling with this lady.
Also, kudos for referencing the original material and using doggies.
THE FIRST ONE I'VE SEEN USE CHARYBDIS IN ONE OF THEIR ANIMATICS FOR THIS SONG!!! EXCELLENT!!! Also LOVE the use of water to shove them FAST through what really *should* be a massive cave (otherwise how would it help them get home??? Wouldn't Poseidon just wait outside on the other side if it was a short trip through her cave??) Love it~ And love the idea of her helping to nudge Ody's decision about the men. As if he was on the fence and she gave him the last push.
This is actually the coolest Scylla animation I’ve seen so far, so bad ass, love it.
THE FACT THEY START SCYLLA OFF AS STRAIGHT DEMONIC I CAN'T
To be honest, if you're a seaman, especially in Ancient Greece, you'll expect to see some type of eel-like sea creature.
I 100% guarantee NONE OF THEM expected snarling, demonic wolf-serpent hybrids.
Someone needs to refine this Scylla and post it as its own thing, I honestly like this one better than Gigi's (Though hers is absolutely spectacular in its own right!)
I absolutely love how Charybdis is making a cameo!
Love the inclusion of what i assume is Charybdis and Odysseus having one final consideration of whether or not he will risk it or give up the morals he tried to keep before "Monster"
Making this feel more like the final nail in the coffin for Odysseus' Ruthlessness to be fully realized
I'm speechless of how amazing this animatic is, like - SCYLLA'S DESIGN? YOU MADE HER CHILLING BUT IN SUCH AN ARTISTIC WAY THAT I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS! The stains of blood in the ship right after they get to leave, the whole "Scylla lunch time" sequence with her heads as wolves... YOU NAILED IT!
I reallu like how you went about doing the dog heads without compromising any of the sea-monster menace factor! Also props for showing off Charybdis as well!
This is so well done and absolutely terrifying. All amazing details from the starvation of the crew, Odysseus snapping after Eurylochus confesses and Scylla capturing the image of Eurylochus, the struggle to row the boat, a crew member saving Eurylochus rather than Eurylochus passing the torch to them, the blood dripping from the ship after the escape. This is all so incredible. Great work!
This is amazing! I adore your Scylla design, it reminds me of carnage/venom symbiotes with the long teeth
The second I saw it said it contains blood gore and horror I knew it was for me
When I see a new Epic animatic, I click faster than the Flash.
this is such a good set up for when he picks the crew to die instead of himself with Zeus. He's shown that he's willing to kill others to save himself, he has this rationale that it's only six lives instead of the whole crew, but there's definitely a reason as to why he didn't pick up a torch himself and instead told eurylochus to do it. it makes sense as to why when given the option, he choses himself over everyone else. it's selfish and horrible but also just *chefs kiss*
That is a terrifying design for Scylla, it's great
Scylla clapping Eurylacus out of existence and fading into Odysseus' tormented eyes is immaculate 💫
Aaaaand I have officially found the Scylla winner for my list of favorite Epic animatics! 🥳
That was incredible. And terrifying. I love the attention to detail. The representation of the myth. The pack of wolves being devoured by wolves. All of it. Top to bottom. Fantastic
I think this is my favorite Sylla design. And that considering she's like a siren with a beautiful voice like an angel but a terrifying appearance of a demon. And have her pets wolves hounds instead of being like a sea serpent.
the way you draw scylla is hella fine i can't lie
1:08 I FLINCHED that was so good!!!!
I know they’re eating Ody’s crew but the dogs still look like good boys
Your animations are always top notch Holy Moly.
First of all I love the dog/wolf heads!! And your artstyle and all the details are amazing this is definitely one of my favorite animatics
Now for story commentary bc I noticed after re watching a lot of different animatics is that Odysseus doesn't respond to Eurylochus' confession and apology literally at all and instead there's a long silence before he gives him specifically the command to light up the torches.
I know that's probably because he's the second in command, but Ody is doing that knowing that whoever is holding one of them is getting sacrificed to Scylla. Therefore it's fairly likely that Eurylochus will be one of them.
This is so amazing that I feel sick
Holy-
this might be my favorite Scylla design I've ever seen :V
I love how gaunt everyone looks in your animatics. Even Eurylochus, who’s usually depicted as huge, is thin and sunken-cheeked. They’ve been on the sea for two years, and by this point they’re slowly starving! That design decision helps a lot with supporting their decisions in Mutiny.
ABSOLUTELY BANGER SCYLLA DESIGN YESSSSS
THAT makes it so much better, because then when the Vengance Saga comes out, it throws the hint that Poseidon freed Charybdis from her prison much more than in the actual story of EPIC
i love how the boat was already bloody. so many sacrifices already had been made, and wood is hard to get the blood out of