definitely. it’s interesting to watch who production picks out as their bottoms & tops, they seem to have no problem ‘letting’ a queen flop, or giving a queen an extra hand or two when they’re clearly favourites. no hate to kylie or anything tho
The “If Your Not In The Top Your In The Bottom” thing needs to stop, it ruins queens tracks (like TKB’s) and it doesn’t seem fair especially when it’s clear who the bottom 2 are
@@villekarasen2487 mhm, the design challenge would’ve been TKB high, Ginger safe, Kylie and Eureka in the bottom, and that last challenge would’ve been, Kylie high, TKB safe, Ginger and Ra’Jah in the bottom
I’m glad akeria left on her terms, it’s clear she was over looked and was never going to win. she was one of the only ones that left with a smile on her face and that shows who she is it’s just a shame
she wasn't overlooked lol she failed in most of the challenges and was not getting better. i admire her for leaving on her terms and not beating a dead horse, but it was time for her to go whether she wanted to or not. before the season she was a front runner for me and quickly disproved that. she is the one queen that producers did not fuck over in rigging because she landed middle of the pack which reflects her performance in the challenges (not so good) and her runways (incredible)
@@pavgarbis9609 I do think she was over looked abit especially in the pink table talk episodes and she should of not been in the bottom in the half time episodes and her runways were always stunning but yes the episodes she left was her time but even out of the challenges we didn’t get much of her in the work room/confessionals I think she just checked out at this point as she has done really well in the acting challenges previously
The only thing I did not like about this season was how late the twist came and how it fucked TKB out of the top 4. If she was in the top 4 it would have been the strongest top 4 ever..
@@styles2535 ok but eureka wouldn’t have been able to win because she got eliminated before. So all they did was kick out a front runner and replace them with someone who couldn’t win based on their previous elimination alone. They should had someone come back mid-season, not at the end. Think about it this way, it was theoretically possible that someone who lost in the first episode could just lipsync their way straight into the final 5. How bullshit is that?
@@styles2535 I agree Eureka had a strong season overall but that last challenge made it seem like they let her win because a) she hadn’t won a challenge and b) if she didn’t win she’d be eliminated making the whole lip sync rudemtion pointless
The way no-one would even mention that Kylie was in the bottom as well and had less wins and Trinity's sad, unspoken acceptance just boiled my piss, tbh.
@@joshualuke7003it seems like trinity’s behavior was what sealed the deal. Especially in the lip sync smack down episode. If she had fought harder, who knows. Don’t get me wrong, she was absolutely my favorite that season. Broke my heart.
@@dino2064yeah, besides it's a game, if you don't get along with everyone else, they might send you home with or without a reason based on the competition. I love Trinity, I wish she would have made into the finale, but maybe she did not played the game as other contestants.
Oh and Jessica Wild LSA was CERTAINLY a trial run, just like Kylie on the Christmas special, and (maybe a reach) Mrs. Kasha Davis on the Pitstop, since fans have been requesting her a lot lately as well
I think Mrs. Kasha Davis was on Pit Stop because the maxi challenge that episode was about creating characters for a kids' show. Trixie mentioned that for this season of Pit Stop they've been trying to match the guests with the challenges, and given that MKD works with kids a lot her being the guest that episode makes sense.
Kyle sonique deserved to win, but it’s sad she couldn’t have won without something in the back of our minds saying “did she win because rupaul was seen as transphobic and this is the way producers wanted to make him look better?”
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 As much as the fans get upset for comments like this, it's true. This season was the perfect way for the show to rebrand itself and not lose money. This show doesn't care of about Trans people period. It actively is ruining local drag scenes and making invisible very serious issues the contestants and the community face at large on a daily basis. Drag race is just a reality TV show, but because it consistently tries to position itself as almost the sole representation of the community, then the community will talk on behalf of itself. This show does not represent queer culture appropriately nor does it represent it fully. Young folks if you all love drag there's more to it than this show.
I remember clearly how thousands of fans were saying "this season is gonna be a mess, so many meh queens or loud queens" well that season is now a masterpiece, such a beautiful group of episodes that made us fall in love with all stars in a way we haven't been able to since all stars 2 with an incredible Top 4 and an amazing winner
Let’s be honest. These girls came in being very careful of what they said and what choices they made because of the ruthless fan base. Silky and Eureka came in very aware of how they spoke and behave because of the hate they were going to get. Everyone was very aware of their actions because of the Fanbase reaction. There was no opportunity to make any villain edits because none of them would play that role. That would damage their careers or mental state. These Queens aren’t dumb. The production works with what they gave them. To sum it up...they all came in as Unproblematic queens who weren’t going to play up the villain role/edit like the earlier seasons. These were very smart queens.
Yup which is why Jan had that big upset/moment about not voting like everyone else bcos she could foresee the backlash. Just as Silky described in her interview
That's so true. Idk is this show ruining drag? Can we just go to see these queens, kings, and others in person forget about the way television exploits this fantastic art form?
My thing with wanting Silky to come back is, I firmly believe that she *also* would have slayed the Monologue challenge. Even if she would never have won the crown, neither would Eureka.
I feel like eureka actually had a chance tho, she had a good track record before getting eliminated and then won a challenge. she was the only one with one bottom placement.
My biggest problem with this season is the fact that the redemption thing didn’t happen after Jan or Pandora’s eliminations. It was just wayyy too late
a part of me thinks it's because silky was doing so well in the lip syncs that they wanted to milk it for good tv as much as possible. it's a twist made to get the person they didn't want to send home back in the competition and the fact that silky battled her way through was just a bonus for production
I also wanna mention that kylie played the game the best this season, better then anyone ever. and that is particularly why she won imo. Every single time she picked a lipstick, that queen went home, on top of her being up for elimination 3 times, and never once getting her lipstick selected. She was shea coulee, and miz cracker from last season, combined. And it showed when eureka asked kylie who she should eliminate in the monologue challenge. It is undeniable that Kylie dominated the social game this season to an unrivalled degree. exceptional winner.
yeah but getting every lipstick right isnt a reason to have her as a winner. I thinl if she was given fair wins and was less boring she would have deserved it.
@@alemonyoyo69420 You've commented a total of 14 times on this video and EVERY SINGLE comment has included something negative towards Kylie.. are you that bothered and obsessed with her? You genuinely need help because I'm smelling a strong scent of transphobia for someone to comment 14 times and shit on a contestant 14 times for no reason, if you think she doesn't deserve the crown that's your opinion, but to call her trash and discredit her 14 times not to mention the fact that you implied she won because she's trans.. please stop watching drag race and go get help
I think Kylie should have won snatch game and Ginger the acting challenge. The acting challenge did seem a little like a forced win for Kylie, when they could have easily given her a win for snatch game.
I agree. Kylie absolutely got fed that acting challenge win and the lipsync win as well, but the truth is probably that their eventual winner didn’t have one particular challenge they knew she’d win. The closest would be the dance challenge (since that’s Kylie’s strength), but she wasn’t even close to the win on the Super Bowl challenge or the Show-up queen. They just weren’t counting on Kylie to do as well as she did on Snatch Game, so they knew they had to give her something since she didn’t have one yet and they were starting to narrow down already. If they had just let it play out, she would’ve gotten the perfect rudemption by winning the challenge that sent her home and her being the very first victim of the Snatch game to top it off.
UNTIL NOW, SCARLET ENVY IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST RIGGED AND SNOBBED QUEEN ON RUPAUL's DRAG RACE!!! Her critiques from the judges are so over exaggerated, like how do you feel "uncomfortable" watching someone share their story with her two moms??! Some challenges where Scarlet could have won or even on the top, but still got snobbed... 😭☹️💀
So.. I am happy for Kylie, but the whole Ru-merican horror story was the most rigged decision in this season, they wanted her to win the season and they knew they have to give her a maxi challenge win! Michelle told her what to do, she showed her how to play it, in previous seasons queens would be sent to the bottom if they had to be produced like that!!!
I almost feel like Ginger and KSL's wins should've been reversed. Ginger could've gotten a win for that AHS parody (or maybe JAN or Pandora), and KSL could've won for Snatch Game. I said in another comment, KSL was the first girl to go home on Snatch Game back on Season 2. So a good bit of poetic justice could've been her winning Snatch Game on her All-Stars run. Ginger was good in that too, but it would've made a lot more sense in the end.
Btw, Scarlet is Pearl's drag daughter, so Ru was unlikely to ever give her a win. Denali positively mentioning Pearl in her "What'cha Packin'" surprised Michelle, so I can see those feelings against Pearl are still there (Pearl reacting to Ru and Michelle's podcast bit on her is art).
the only reason i was even slightly upset about the finale was because i had heard the rumor about double crownings being filmed so i kinda got my hopes up and expected both kylie and raja to win
While I’m not surprised that they were filmed, I’m kinda confused as to why people thought a double win would happen this season (or any recent season after AS4, really). It’s only been two years since the first one, and I don’t think they’d do a second one so soon. Plus, before the finale aired, there was tons of support for both Ra’Jah and Kylie, and Ginger, too. Many fans said they’d be fine with any finalist winning. I think we all know the reaction the All Stars 4 finalists was… not that. I didn’t expect a double win at all this season, I didn’t think (according to production, at least) that there’d be a “need” for one.
Allstars 6 seemed to consider it - but since then it's clear they're not doing it again. It just creates a scenario where both Queens are pitted against each other for who "deserved" the crown and who didn't. Fans have argued since AS4 about how the crowning was "rigged" because Monet destroyed Trinity in the ls, or how the crowning was "rigged" because Monet didn't have Trinity's track record. DR is not in the business of tearing down their winners, just look at AS7.
Akeria got screwed on AS6, and I'm glad she didn't return for that stupid lipsync challenge..Also, I hate that if you are not in the top you are in the bottom thing. I hate that it sent Alexis Mateo home the episode she did well along with Juju. The person who should have went home was Blair.
OMG Im gagged that someone else noticed that: 1. The lipsync assassins were paired against queens of their seasons, or sent them home, 2. The top 4 is suspiciously country 👀
Yes! I felt like they put her in the bottom when a front runner did bad and they didn't want to put them in the bottom. *cough cough* the halftime show *cough cough*
Whew, Season 13 was rigamorris central. This season was actually phenomenal. I'd also place it above Season 2. I think the pandemic changed people. Made them nicer...? More grateful? I dunno, but the queens all supported each other, this season was kind, the queens were all TOP TALENT, and it was just incredible to watch.
I actually agree. The pandemic has made people realise that who they were prior might not be all that great and has allowed some people time to stop and think
I think the queens were all very aware that if they don’t act congenial the entire time the fanbase is going to ruin their mental health and career. That’s why there was no villain edit, the queens edited themselves
@@Haittavero Some of them were VERY concerned with how they came across (Silky, Jan, and to a lesser extent Eureka), but I think a lot of them were really being real. And I think RU's mean ass even enjoyed the season!
I would've grabbed it before her 💀 But I saw someone say that the whole guitar break should've been Jan and Silky holding each end of the guitar trying to grab it from the other
!! The guitar wasn't even a reveal, it was just there on the stage. I would've thrown/kicked that guitar off-stage but production would probably cut that to stage another prop/gag moment for Silky.
@@Nadia-jk5jw I dont know how many times its had to be explained. Silky had the guitar under her coat and she placed it on the stage floor. it is just that part of it was edited out in the episode. Silky has verbally confirmed this. It was not and is not some conspiracy from production. Silky physically made that guitar from pizza boxes. Silky chose to come fighting every lipsync. Jan had plenty of time as well to make props but she just decided to have a wig reveal and break stage lights lol
@@starskreem8258 I read the backstory for how Silky improvised making props last minute for each of the lip syncs, including sewing the look for Barbie girl & making the guitar, but personally still found the reveals & prop use tired after the 1st 3 times. If she brought it under her coat, placed on the floor & picked it back up that still isn't a clean or shocking reveal. The camera breaking was more surprising and fitting the rock & roll theme. & For half of silky's last lip sync her leg was stuck in her inflatable costume. But for 4/6 lip syncs I think Silky did amazing
There was totally rigging this season but what helped this be one of the best seasons of them all is that the rigging wasn’t as obvious at it has been recently.
I think its the fact that riggory ussualy lead to a good thing. Like Ginger giving us "Phone" and Kylie giving us "Dirtty". And the season was so fun because the main point of this season wasn't winning the crown, like almost no one came only for the crown but because they wanted a rudemption which made it exiting. Also we had a lot of early season early outs and it was exiting to see how they all improved.
Idk the rigorry on the lipsync battle royale was kinda obvious to me. Like Silky, who is notoriously messy, beats Jan in a lipsync, on a 5+ girl streak, and THEN gets suspiciously messy again? 🧐🤔
For the Super Bowl challenge, Jiggly and Silky said at Roscoe’s that they had to pick musical acts that actually performed at the Super Bowl in some capacity. Silky originally picked Missy Elliott - which is why she had the fat suit in the ‘Since U Been’ lip sync. Jiggly also wanted Missy, but production told her that Missy was taken, so she picked Janet instead.
I see it kinda like season 6 snatch game, where Bianca was a bit funnier, but Dela saved Trinity's moments from becoming awful by saving her moments. Ginger played for both.
The way Michelle had to get up and show Kylie. AS IF THAT WOULD BE OK!! Like there’s no way! Any other contestant would’ve been in the bottom. So stupid. They literally forced her to be in the top and her goth runway was not GOTH! She was simply naked
Honestly if I was a producer I would’ve ended the game within a game at Silky v Jan, given them a double save, then had 8 queens for Snatch Game so it’s still balanced
I feel like unlike other all star ... The top 4 was balanced and the winner was worthy .... This was a truly wonderful season. .... And i hate that it ended .... Also Kylie winning loved it ❤️❤️
SO TRUE! The top 4 was so amazing and anyone could’ve won! And Kylie winning was just a cherry on top of the whole season. So sad it’s ended but so happy it happened.
Amazing! And I feel like the final episode was the example of ‘doesn’t matter what happened, this is a race, impress me on the final stretch’. And they all did so good, but it was like Kylie FULLY GOT SUPERPOWERS on the last episode, I was obsessed with her the entire episode and she deserves the crown. Such a talented cast 💅🏾
@@thekiiing2073 Girl kylie was not that impressive in the finale. Imo she did very well in the challenge but the runway was meh and she fell during the lip sync
I think Kylie should have got the Snatch Game win. She did so incredibly which nobody expected, and especially the fact that she left on a snatch game? The narrative of her win would have made so much sense and been such a clear redemption.
She didn't just leave on Snatch Game. She left on the very first Snatch Game on Season 2. Hence why giving her the win on Snatch Game would've made SO much more sense.
I never understood the Serena hate. She pretty much made season 5‘s Untucked very entertaining and keeping her longer in the competition could have really shaken things up :)
Let’s be honest, Eureka got her first win because they knew that (1) people have caught on to the returning queen always go home after coming back trope and (2) it would’ve been the easiest vote in the world if anyone else won because Eureka would’ve had 0 wins, safe, bottom 2 times and 1 elimination.
I love how in All Stars 5 they only had to rig one thing in the very first episode to make it a good season. Don’t send Derrick Barry home in episode 1 but they couldnt do it???
Thank God someone else agrees!! The fandom hated Derrick in S8 which I didn't understand because Derrick was funny and entertaining. Even Naomi, who fought with Derrick alot also, admitted it was a huge mistake because Derrick is good TV and I think it's him naturally like that which is even better!
hm i don't agree that kylie won the acting challenge. ginger, pandora and jan gave really great performances, while kylie actually did 60% of what michelle asked. when i was watching, i trully thought that kylie was going to be in the bottom because i felt that she was worse than rajah.
yeah i agree, kylie was hand held way too much in that acting challenge. if there was a challenge where she could’ve won was the monologue or the snatch game
i agree. i think that win of hers is very questionable, personally i would have put kylie in the top for the halftime challenge and probably give her the win for the snatch game, that would have made more sense for me
People said "the casts keep getting worse we don't need all stars every year" This season proved that yes we DO need it every, so many queens who weren't on yet and good queens keep on coming
While this casting is one of the bests, I think it's better to let all stars seasons have longer gaps in order to have a bigger pool of queens to choose from, tho it does come with the problem that the pool size will get bigger given how production pumps the main seasons like ru pumps oil from his fracking farm
i love kylie and i’m beyond happy that she won but honestly she shouldn’t have had the win in the rumerican horror story. like michelle was giving her a lot of notes before literally acting out her entire scene for her. there was just other girls that were better and more natural in their acting. i do stan kylie tho, just a bit of an unfair edit in this episode
honestly kylie was doing great before the notes and when michelle showed her how to do the scene I was cringeing because Michelle did 10x worse than everything Kylie was giving. It was obviously a stunt Michelle was pulling but it was unnecessary and has led to everyone questioning the win despite Kylie embodying Jessica Lange to a T.
@Sebastián Baeza I'm not talking about Jessica Lange, I'm talking about the personality of Fiona Goode and how she behave. Jessica Lange is my favorites actress and I know that top her is hard.
if jans runway broke the tie between her and tkb, akerias runway (which was arguably the best of the entire season imo) should have saved her from the bottom in the same episode
A’keria did so well in the halftime show and her runway was absolutely stunning, her bottom placement was one of the most riggamorris things from the show.
IMO A'Keria is the perfect example of why you don't want to come back on All Stars too soon. IMO the only person who actually redeemed themself after coming back soon on this season was Silky.
I think Yara winning the variety show was fair. Like it or not RuPaul was living. And there is a difference between a TALENT show and a VARIETY show. If it was presented as a talent show, shaking a breastplate is not a talent, no way she should win. But a variety show is just, “put on a short highly entertaining performance” and Yara did that. That also explains Silky’s placement (while I do think Jiggly was worse and should have been low instead). Silky’s performance was UNDENIABLY talented, but it wasn’t particularly entertaining, unlike her lipsyncs.
I don’t think Kylie deserved her horror story win. Michelle had to get up and physically show her what to do. Pandora did amazing without help (or screentime) and was only safe. I do think Kylie deserved a win for snatch game
Bob and Thorgy talking about Ginger's monologue had me dying lol. Thanks for the amazing video! A season like this really deserves all the in-depth content it's getting
heavy on the “idk what akeria did to production” cause she did a great job this season tbh. also there is something to be said about the lip sync smackdown stopping the week TRINITY goes home. could you imagine the fight she would’ve had to have a chance to come back!! kylie and rajah is the double crowning i needed
well i mean its all subjective, i disagree with a decent amount of this video i feel like a lot of the decisions were fair (not all of them examples being yara’s and kylie’s winning) and also the thing about all stars is the queens eliminate eachother so they pick whatever criteria they want when it comes to eliminating pther queens
The list of performers for the Half Time Show is already pretty short because the Half Time Show as we know it didn't even really start until probably the 90's. Until then, it was mostly marching bands and maybe sometimes a music artist would perform (such as Carol Channing). So there is really only about 25 years of performers to choose from. edit: And also, so many of the acts have been men and/or groups so that limits the options even further.
@@adolfoarias6857 I think so. The women or groups with female main singers who have headlined are: Diana Ross, Shania Twain, No Doubt, Jessica Simpson, Janet Jackson, Black Eyed Peas, Madonna, Beyoncé, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Shakira and JLo. The non-headliner female performers are: Carol Channing, Ella Fitzgerald, Gloria Estefan, Tanya Tucker, Patti Labelle, Martha Reeves, Queen Latifah, Christina Aguilera, Toni Braxton, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige, Nicki Minaj, and Missy Elliot. So there were still quite a few good options to choose from, but the complete list isn't really that long, and tbh most of the queens took roles that would be pretty likely for them to do really well in. There are quite a few that weren't chosen that I think weren't chosen for good reason. And of the list of men that performed, I think Prince, Steve Tyler, MJ, and maybe Bruno Mars are the only ones that are campy enough that you could really do for a drag show.
this was my favorite season ever. i love the winner but i do wish it was a double crowning tbh lol. but seriously this was a major step up from AS5, DRDU1 and DR13.
Nah, you're not gonna convince me that TKB didn't deserve the win on the half time show performance. Not only did she perform the choreo well, she WAS Beyonce. Jan performed great, but it didn't feel as seamless. I did not see Gaga, i saw Jan as Jan perfoming the house down and trying to evoke Gaga with her expressions. Basically, we could see her trying. Also, yes her runway look was good, but it wasn't the showstopper that overshadowed Trinity that everyone seems to make it out to be. TKBs look was stunning as well, I don't get the critiques at all. To be honest, i even prefer TKBs look, it's a great silhouette, it's just pure elegance but with a twist in the unconventional material and textures. Jan's felt costume-y and a bit boxy in comparison. The blonde hair didn't make sense either. And i say all this with just as much conviction as Jan was robbed in Episode 1.
I didn't like how Akeria and Scarlett were treated in the judging - I thought the critiques of them were often false, and they were unfairly overlooked when they did amazing. I didn't like the fan backlash against Jan. I thought TKB deserved to be in the top 4, and I thought Ginger didn't (the judging was rigged in her favor too often). But I'm happy with Kylie winning. I'd have been happy with Raja or TKB winning and with any double-crowning between the 3 of them. I totally understand why Akeria chose not to lip sync to get back in, and I hope her career goes great after this.
While i love kylie i and i was happy that she won i still dont thing that she shouldnt have won the rumerican horror story challenge plus the show didnt gave her an winner storyline its just doesnt fell right with me i dunno
she did get winner storyline she literally was a queen who was focus on a lot this season and her ultimate snatch game and runways rudemption were what made her stand out the most
Yes, I agree. I think her one win feels unnecessary pushed, because she was more deserving of winning other challenges that she didn't win. plus on the horror story challenge Ginger, Pandora, Eureka were way more memorable and funny.
@@jpmedina8328 well in ur opinion cause I thought they had pretty even amount of confessional screen time plus kylie’s presence in the entire competition gave me winner vibes since the moment she entered she didn’t need a direct storyline
with eurekas past actions, production had no choice but to push her a good edit so they (production) didnt get as much backlash for bringing her back....
Scarlet's elimination HURT me when it happened. I can't find the clip but I remember Ru called her performance "disturbing" or something along those lines, which felt like it came completely out of nowhere. As someone who might be on the autism spectrum I really related to Scarlet, how other queens and the judges often misread her body language thinking she was mean/rude/disinterested when that wasn't the case. Seeing her be criticized so harshly for her body language not fitting what the judges wanted, and being called disturbing for the way that she emoted while telling incredibly personal stories on television just felt so wrong to me. Like if you thought her stories were boring or she wasn't as entertaining as the other queens is one thing, but telling her that her genuine emotional expressions while telling personal stories were somehow 'incorrect' just felt so so wrong and cruel.
This is difficult because Ru Paul seems to like Eureka and Ginger more then Rajah. Id have to say if it based on Ru Pauls taste and not personal Id say Eureka was second, Rajah third and Ginger 4th. Personally for me i would also agree with this order.
@@faro8594 Yeah nah. Ru Paul saying that was obviously being done because Ru was never going to pick Ginger. Both gingers wins especially the first one was given to her so she could win a substantial amount of money. Ginger winning 60k was done so they could get away with not giving her the crown.
@@starskreem8258 neither was kylies only win was justified either her acting was monotoned like her runways. Anways like what you said Ginger had 60k that's basically the similar to what Kylie is gonna get after taxes.
Just some things: Madonna also sometimes does high kicks and it's not only a Eureka-thing And Scarlett is also originally from the South. So she could have also fit into the top four Country song
Im so tired of seeing big girls receives consistent hate. Its so toxic. A big girl will never win because the fans never get behind them. Interesting to say the table talk was riggory but that rumerican story wasnt? 🤔
i mean i agree with you that it is the fans' fault but I mean..... eureka was never going to win based on track record alone and people wanted to see ginger do *new* things and she just regurgitated what she has done on previous seasons, just my opinion tho
I love how when the fans collectively call for a robbed queen. UA-cam channels always defend that status for the white girls but never for the other girls. Wild.
I feel as if Ginger wasn’t put in the bottom with her team in episode 5 because ginger would be at relatively high risk of being sent home as I think Ginger had the worst track record up to that point of her team at least. Jan: Safe, Safe, Bottom, Win Ginger: Safe, Safe, Bottom, Low Pandora: High, Safe, High, Safe
This season felt like it went really quickly like we didn’t really get to see them much in the work room which I really enjoy them interacting like in uk especially s2 we get a lot of time with them but in as6 it would cut and got straight to the runway, and I didn’t really like the twist I think as2 and how the queens got back in was the best way and was a success as we didn’t get to see much of them such as the queens that were early out in as6. However i enjoyed this season and loved all the queens tho but some of the wins I am a bit iffy about like I think ginger should of won the rumerican horror story, Tkb could of won the half time but jan did do well so it’s was very close between them, Kylie should of won snatch and Tkb or akeria could of won the table talk but Eureka did well as well. And Scarlett was very over looked . But I’m glad for the top 4 and it was so close between Kylie and rajah.
The season did feel like it went quickly and we didn’t see a lot of personal interaction between them. Jan’s runway for the halftime show is why is won instead of TKB imo
I think the season would have been so much better if they did have Eureka win the Pink Table, Kylie win Snatch Game and Ginger won The Acting Challenge..it would have fit storyline better and it would have made the competition more even
at first by just looking at the cast, I really thought this season would have a lot of fights and drama (that I wouldve lived for) but I stand corrected, almost all of the queens were pretty congenial this season
Yara's elimination is still so funny to me because every other elimination was based on track record. Yara had a win while A'keria didn't. Essentially, the queens voted off the only person production could've given the villain edit to so early in the compettition.
I think this is the best all stars season because there wasn’t a clear production backed winner *that we could clock*. I love Kylies win and I think that she 100% deserved it. We all expected a double win since this was the first AS season where it was valid (besides AS3 if Ben hadn’t eliminated herself) but I don’t think that Kylie’s win is invalidated by anything besides the production not giving her enough airtime (if u wanna reach) and the “toxic” fandom
The Half Time Show Tea is The Queens picked three people out of a full list of Half Time Performers then The production picked the performer out of the three the queens gave them
38:42 - “It was the one misstep in challenges all season” Um chile, Drag Tots says hello. 👋🏽 That was an awful challenge tied in with a show that no one cared about, but that they needed to promote.
I think Kylie is a fine winner, but I feel like other queens did better. Product also needs to do better when writing these finally songs, but these are also just my opinions
For me the NUMBER ONE worst decision they made was not to send Trinity home first.... She did the worst. She should have went home. Serena was fodder and it was unfair. Even the cast agreed that it was just based off Trinity having more potential, fan reaction, etc. If they had chosen Yara to send Trinity home...... Then Trinity would have pulled the silky thing, she would have won every single lipsync and got brought back at a convenient time. Lipsyncing is her best best best skill and we were robbed of an entire episode of Trinity sending everyone home again.
No icky moments in All Stars 6? Scarlett was overlooked? A'keria shunned with a Chi Chi DeVayne edit? Silky worried about making the wrong choice? Michelle literally walking Kylie to win the challenge? Why did Kylie not win another challenge? TKB kicked out of the final four? Why make the biggest twist materialize at Top 5? Disservice to the season 11 queens (+ Trinity) with the exception of Rajah. Doesn't top All Stars 2. When you think you can celebrate more queens with a larger cast, only makes more room for more disservice.
Fun fact about the halftime performance - All the voice impersonators for the singers except for Steven Tyler and Prince were performed by the same person
I'm absolutely dying at the thought of Ru just shifting his glance to Ginger after a few moments of silence, then saying "Hey bitch, u won tho xoxo" 😂😂😂😂
Scarlet made a gown from fabric? Groundbreaking. She was already known for her gowns on S11. Ra'Jah and Eureka! used a freaking chair and tablecloths respectively. That's just more impressive, period.
UGH!!!! Finally someone with some sense! The part of unconventional challenges is to make garments out of unconventional materials! The gown was gorgeous but it was made out of sewing fabric!!!! UGH! It stresses me when fans don't understand basic things
Exactly! people thinking Scarlet was robbed are so delusional, if anything Jan was robbed of a top placement in the Ball but then again all three of the top 3 did really well so it wasn’t like they didn’t deserve it.
Everyone says they'd be fine with a double crowning, but I just don't get it. Drag race should be seen as entertainting tv show first, competition second, otherwise people in the fandom get too aggressive about their faves and non-faves. So entertaining show-wise it doesn't really make sense to have both favourites win, it's not a satisfying end to a journey, the fact that we have to guess which one will win up until the last second is the best part of the show in my opinion.
I think it’s because Kylie and Ra’jah were the underdogs. Winning the challenges they went home on. Being early outs. Not very memorable. Meanwhile Ginger and Eureka are both back for a third time after having been finalists. Another big part was Kylie and Ra’jah’s friendship. They grew pretty close over the season. And it just feels right. Monet won mostly because Ru was under fire for crowing three white queens on All Stars. And Trinity has now been cancelled, in part, due to being pretty transphobic. So to have a trans woman win alongside a black queen who actually did well would be such a treat. Almost like the show acknowledging it’s mistakes.
Im still sad of how ppl dont like ginger ? Like idk she's amazing and so multitalented to me she shouldve won tbh she was juste excellent almost Every where whereas others were only good in specific challenges
I rooted for Ginger on s7 and as6, she was always one of my favourites. I was really surprised to hear she wasn't a fan favourite. I don't understand what in her is supposedly unlikeable? She's amazing and I love her
I think it was one of the Roscoe's videos with Yara in it, but the queens got to pick any halftime performer pre-season. Because Yara wanted to do J-Lo but Serena already picked it. And when Serena left Yara asked if she could switch back to J-Lo and they said no lol.
The lip sync smack down is the best twist drag race has had for a while, and if they’re gonna give queens the opportunity to come back I hope they do it like this going forward. Mad props to Silky she frickin nailed every single lip sync and I applaud her resourcefulness and creativity in coming up with a new gag for each one.
I have a prediction. I feel like Jan was getting pushed to be a villain at the very beginning. When you touched on that the producers may have wanted to keep the safe storyline to Jan, I think that they wanted to Jan to get a little upset when she did well in the challenge and still end up at safe and then edit it as a villain arc. I feel like they almost did this with Trinity but Trinity did not let her frustrations get out to make her look evil. The main turn to make her a villain was when at the start of Episode 5 when they were discussing why Jan chose Akeria’s lip stick instead of Yara’s.
One more unmentioned riggory when it comes to lipsyncs during this season is the "convenience" of Kylie having to perform to Dirrty... against Manila... It seemed like a perfect way to make sure that Kylie won the lipsync. Not trying to diminish her winning the season. She was amazing, but in my eyes that was a very "lucky coincidence"
While the KSL had a great rudemption on the show, she still had to be given a lot of direction to get there. On a regular season this could work. NOT for all stars. Rajah on the other hand, and even TBK, Eureka and others CAME CORRECT
eureka was one note and wore a bodysuit every week and was not read for anything! production loves eureka that’s why she got the win so she could send home her best friend and get rid of the diversity in the finale
@@868tatj there are queens who have been read the house for wearing a bodysuit two weeks in a row. they were boring and unoriginal. Bianca Del Rio should’ve been read for wearing the same silhouette too but Rupaul would never. Eureka didn’t turn a single look, silky however, gave us something new and elevated from before.
@@kitgoolsby u missed the part about styling. Silhouettes can be the same but u can still mix it. You also missed where I mentioned AND OTHERS. But y’all just wanna hate who u wanna hate. Can’t help ya there
all stars 5 having no ticks on that table at 1:49 😭☠️ I forgot how bland that season was i really hope they look at how well this season was received and follow in its footsteps, this is the most entertained ive been with a season in a long long time
2:50 I just don’t agree that All Stars 6 has less “icky moments” and obvious riggery. As with any recent season, there are PLENTY of questionable moments which made it frustrating to watch for me. With your film degree and weaponised BFA, I’m surprised you didn’t acknowledge more of them. Here are some major examples: - Kylie was literally pushed through the “Rumerican Horror Story” acting challenge. Michelle *literally* stood up and acted out the scene for her, which I can’t remember ever happening before… and even after that, during the filming her and Ross still looked underwhelmed with Kylie’s performance. It felt more like “okay that’s acceptable” than a winning performance. Then suddenly, out of nowhere she wins and is told she “did it all by herself” etc. The final outcome just didn’t match with what we were shown throughout the episode. - Eureka 100% should have won the “Pink Table Talk” challenge. Ru literally said her team was the best, and Ginger’s team was mediocre at best. Ginger also seemed hammed up and not as natural/conversational as Eureka. There is NO good reason why Ginger should’ve won over Eureka. This went on to cause drama later, when Ginger was seen as more of a front runner and Eureka had no wins yet. This should’ve been her win. - Kylie Sonique Love should have won snatch game. I absolutely 100% believe this. Ginger got way too many undeserved wins this season. Kylie doing well was a lot more unexpected, and she absolutely killed it. She looked like Dolly and emodied her more than Ginger did for her character imo. For example, Phyllis Diller wasn’t overweight and some jokes Ginger said were more about Ginger, not the character. Her voice/personality was all just Ginger saying stale rehearsed jokes- whereas Kylie was organically bouncing off of things that other characters said, as well as saying lines that Dolly would say. It just would’ve felt more natural to me if Kylie won this episode over the acting one (which Ginger could’ve easily won!) - This one is slightly less black-and-white, but I believe Trinity should have won the “Halftime Headliners” episode, and Jan was given the win purely because it looked satisfying from a story perspective. They knew that not giving Jan a win would cause uproar with the fans, and this was their chance to give her it. Trinity absolutely slayed as Beyoncé and you cannot tell me she didn’t embody her perfectly. Due to these skewed factors, it also affected Trinity’s perception (I.e. She seemed to blindly follow what the judges stated, and thought she was doing worse than she was. The other queens also took that as an “easy out” and agreed with her.) That was one of the biggest “icky” and unfair feelings in the season for me. Without the whack win allocation, it might not have happened.
YES to everything. The wins were so weird this season. Trinity not winning the Half time Superbowl challenge made me so confused. She was Beyonce. From the stage presence, to the outfit, to the choreo, she was spot on. She allegedly lost because her runway was not as good as Jan (but Trinity's gown was beautiful so what do people mean when they say that her gown was the reason why she lost to Jan??). Then Akeria was in the bottom (and eliminated?) when her runway was one the best of AS6 (I think it was the flower outfit) and it should have given her a Safe card. The table talk was won as a group by Trinity, Eureka and Akeria BUT Ginger won ?? How does this make sense? It may be foolish thinking but imo the person who wins the challenge should be part of the group who won.
@@JoaoSilva-hy7bm agreed, she was robbed on the acting challenge, I'm saying this because that affected Akeria and Eureka's entire storyline about not winning a challenge
Please do not get me wrong I love Kylie so much and this isn't a critique on her but moreso the production but her winning didn't make sense to me like she only had 1 shaky win and she didn't appear as much as her other top 4 queen's it just felt like the last episode they tried as hard as could to push her to her win which had never been the point of her story it just felt strange to me and honestly very random and also alongside that she only had the third best track record of the season and rajah was clearly given a winners edit all season long as well as having a huge fan backing to win and yes I know Kylie got the most votes online but it seemed that so many people wanted a double crowning of both of them which I would have loved to see in my opinion it's just rupaul saying "I've changed look at me crowning a trans queen" which is sad because Kylie deserves much better
And I know this is going bto sound so dramatic but Kylie winning kindve ruined the season for me it was just so random and weird that it left a really bad taste in my mouth
i 100% agree. i love kylie, even more now that she's been on all stars, her winning reaction was the cutest thing i've seen in my life. but this finale just felt really over produced i mean.. they pretty much cut rajah out of the lip sync and she was giving! just makes me question the real intentions of the show. i know people can change and its wonderful that we have a trans winner after rupaul had those nasty transphobic statements, but at the same time it feels weird bc if we're being real, she wasnt the best in the competition, im not talking about track record bc that literally hasnt mattered since 2017, just overall i feel like we weren't able to see her giving 100% competing?? and i dont know if thats production fault or she just really wasnt giving enough material since she is more reserved, but idk.. it felt really weird. i just hope they gave her the win bc they really believe in her talent and not to push the "look rupaul is not transphobic anymoree cmon guys now give us the emmys!"
@@viquetoriaa yeah perfectly summed up and it's also like she didn't really have much of a storyline and didn't appear as much throughout the season it just felt out of the blue and overproduced
51:20 I absolutely agree with this whole video except for this point. I totally agree that Ra'jah was underrated and disliked coming into the season. She was easily one of the biggest villains since Phi Phi, along with Silky. However, to say Kylie was unpopular or not considered for the top is just not true. A lot of people were really rooting for Kylie because of her showcasing on the Christmas special, her stand out promo look, and the fact that we're getting more trans representation on all-stars. Sure, she's from an older season and a lot of newer fans might not know exactly who she is; but putting her on the same level as Ra'jah, a queen who was relentlessly harassed with an absolutely awful fan reception for the most part, is a stretch. Kylie was a clean slate for the most part while Ra'jah had to crawl her way up from the pits of hell with the fans. Don't get me wrong, I think Kylie is hugely deserving of the crown. She truly did redeem herself and showed her true star power. But there's just something super special about seeing Ra'jah, and Silky for that matter, completely turn around their reputation with the fans. For me, those are the three winners of this season.
channels like these don’t really help tho.. fans doing math to validate whoever should win, but that just ain’t how these shows work - it’s about so much more than that. I watch it because I like it and can comprehend it as just an opinion, but so many people in this toxic ass fandom are relying on this kinda stuff like it’s their bible. when did we stop to just enjoy this show for what it is and always has been?
i just thought of something about the assasin thing, do the lipsync assasins have to quarantine for 2 weeks? because if they do then they could just choose the assasin based on the winner of the challenge if that makes sense which would explain the thing with Jessica alledgedly having a different calender date. n e ways that was just my thought.
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Michelle was determined to make Kylie win that Acting challenge
definitely. it’s interesting to watch who production picks out as their bottoms & tops, they seem to have no problem ‘letting’ a queen flop, or giving a queen an extra hand or two when they’re clearly favourites. no hate to kylie or anything tho
Ginger did better on her own.
Yup. I've never seen her do that and that was her only win
And Kylie was still mediocre yet given the win
@@santiagonova8040 PERIODT
The “If Your Not In The Top Your In The Bottom” thing needs to stop, it ruins queens tracks (like TKB’s) and it doesn’t seem fair especially when it’s clear who the bottom 2 are
I just don’t count them as normal bottoms. If they got good critiques that would be high normally then I just count them as high+btm
True, TKB would've been high+safe on the last episodes with Kylie /Eureka and Ginger/Rajah being in the bottom 2 with Eureka and Ginger going home.
@@villekarasen2487 mhm, the design challenge would’ve been TKB high, Ginger safe, Kylie and Eureka in the bottom, and that last challenge would’ve been, Kylie high, TKB safe, Ginger and Ra’Jah in the bottom
@@benjamintic3653 tkb received more negative critics than rajah and ginger in the monologue
@@highonsugar6273 tkb received more negative critics than rajah and ginger in the monologue
I’m glad akeria left on her terms, it’s clear she was over looked and was never going to win. she was one of the only ones that left with a smile on her face and that shows who she is it’s just a shame
Because she already got her moment of glory this season focused on rudemption.
she wasn't overlooked lol she failed in most of the challenges and was not getting better. i admire her for leaving on her terms and not beating a dead horse, but it was time for her to go whether she wanted to or not. before the season she was a front runner for me and quickly disproved that. she is the one queen that producers did not fuck over in rigging because she landed middle of the pack which reflects her performance in the challenges (not so good) and her runways (incredible)
@@pavgarbis9609 I do think she was over looked abit especially in the pink table talk episodes and she should of not been in the bottom in the half time episodes and her runways were always stunning but yes the episodes she left was her time but even out of the challenges we didn’t get much of her in the work room/confessionals I think she just checked out at this point as she has done really well in the acting challenges previously
Agreed, even the top 4 didn't look that shocked by the twist bcos whoever came back wasn't going to win anyway.
she was amazing on season 11 but on as6 she was weak , cant belive the scared queens eliminated yara over her
The only thing I did not like about this season was how late the twist came and how it fucked TKB out of the top 4. If she was in the top 4 it would have been the strongest top 4 ever..
Yes I said whoever decided to do the twist so late in the game deserves to lose their job
If TKB had been in the top 4, then the winner would have been Raja 4 sure. And that would have made sense with my French vanilla fantasy!
I still think Eureka makes it one of the strongest, just maybe a little less than if TKB was there
@@styles2535 ok but eureka wouldn’t have been able to win because she got eliminated before. So all they did was kick out a front runner and replace them with someone who couldn’t win based on their previous elimination alone.
They should had someone come back mid-season, not at the end. Think about it this way, it was theoretically possible that someone who lost in the first episode could just lipsync their way straight into the final 5. How bullshit is that?
@@styles2535 I agree Eureka had a strong season overall but that last challenge made it seem like they let her win because a) she hadn’t won a challenge and b) if she didn’t win she’d be eliminated making the whole lip sync rudemtion pointless
honestly trinitys elimination gave me that icky feeling. i feel so bad for her. she deserved to be in the top four.
Yes!!
The way no-one would even mention that Kylie was in the bottom as well and had less wins and Trinity's sad, unspoken acceptance just boiled my piss, tbh.
@@joshualuke7003it seems like trinity’s behavior was what sealed the deal. Especially in the lip sync smack down episode. If she had fought harder, who knows. Don’t get me wrong, she was absolutely my favorite that season. Broke my heart.
@@dino2064yeah, besides it's a game, if you don't get along with everyone else, they might send you home with or without a reason based on the competition. I love Trinity, I wish she would have made into the finale, but maybe she did not played the game as other contestants.
Oh and Jessica Wild LSA was CERTAINLY a trial run, just like Kylie on the Christmas special, and (maybe a reach) Mrs. Kasha Davis on the Pitstop, since fans have been requesting her a lot lately as well
Agreed 100%
@@renzgeffrey429 oooohh I love it
i agree!!!! i didn't watch the Christmas special but I found out that Kylie was on it and i was like hmmm, a coincidence
I think Mrs. Kasha Davis was on Pit Stop because the maxi challenge that episode was about creating characters for a kids' show. Trixie mentioned that for this season of Pit Stop they've been trying to match the guests with the challenges, and given that MKD works with kids a lot her being the guest that episode makes sense.
@@mistraldespair but (playing devils advocate) it very well could have been nina west instead
Kyle sonique deserved to win, but it’s sad she couldn’t have won without something in the back of our minds saying “did she win because rupaul was seen as transphobic and this is the way producers wanted to make him look better?”
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 As much as the fans get upset for comments like this, it's true. This season was the perfect way for the show to rebrand itself and not lose money. This show doesn't care of about Trans people period.
It actively is ruining local drag scenes and making invisible very serious issues the contestants and the community face at large on a daily basis.
Drag race is just a reality TV show, but because it consistently tries to position itself as almost the sole representation of the community, then the community will talk on behalf of itself. This show does not represent queer culture appropriately nor does it represent it fully. Young folks if you all love drag there's more to it than this show.
I totally agree
@@vyvyan235 period
@@mariabuck3166 thanks just trying to spread some light on why producers picked her even tho she really did deserve it
@@boinggerss1560 I don't understand
I remember clearly how thousands of fans were saying "this season is gonna be a mess, so many meh queens or loud queens" well that season is now a masterpiece, such a beautiful group of episodes that made us fall in love with all stars in a way we haven't been able to since all stars 2 with an incredible Top 4 and an amazing winner
Kylie shouldn’t have won the one challenge that she won, though. And her American flag final look was so cheap and awful.
@@JakobTennisMB well guess what Mimi she did and you can’t do anything to change it but to stay bitter #KylieICON
Yup I admit it when I first saw the cast i was like "oh boy this is gonna be a loud season 😅"
@@JakobTennisMB Her final look shocked and disappointed me. Her choreo was also easier than the others; however, she did sound great in the song
@@JakobTennisMB But at the same time, she deserved the Snatch Game win, (and lowkey the monologue too)
ginger minj has been cast on the two best seasons of all stars
And Jan has been cast on the two best recent seasons of Drag Race.
And Juju/Alexis on the two worst seasons. :D
@@ifonlywemovedaway i feel so bad for them 😭
@@nako5329 i dont get the as5 hate its my second favourite as season, predictable or not. what didnt you like about it?
@@dylanc5835 i didn’t enjoy the challenges and the lipsync assassin twist… it just never rly worked for me altogether
Let’s be honest. These girls came in being very careful of what they said and what choices they made because of the ruthless fan base. Silky and Eureka came in very aware of how they spoke and behave because of the hate they were going to get. Everyone was very aware of their actions because of the Fanbase reaction. There was no opportunity to make any villain edits because none of them would play that role. That would damage their careers or mental state. These Queens aren’t dumb. The production works with what they gave them. To sum it up...they all came in as Unproblematic queens who weren’t going to play up the villain role/edit like the earlier seasons. These were very smart queens.
Yup which is why Jan had that big upset/moment about not voting like everyone else bcos she could foresee the backlash. Just as Silky described in her interview
That's so true. Idk is this show ruining drag? Can we just go to see these queens, kings, and others in person forget about the way television exploits this fantastic art form?
I think the fandom got the villain edit this season, and it deserved it.
which speaks to the level of immaturity this fandom displays towards queens who speak their minds and act like themselves.
My thing with wanting Silky to come back is, I firmly believe that she *also* would have slayed the Monologue challenge. Even if she would never have won the crown, neither would Eureka.
I feel like eureka actually had a chance tho, she had a good track record before getting eliminated and then won a challenge. she was the only one with one bottom placement.
Silky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eureka
@@dadoll7018 i agree with you. Eureka could have won had she been a fan favourite
@@dadoll7018 Yep. Crowning the queen who has been absent the majority of the competition wouldn't make a lot of sense in the end
i would’ve preferred silky all season compared to showboating over emotional eureka
My biggest problem with this season is the fact that the redemption thing didn’t happen after Jan or Pandora’s eliminations. It was just wayyy too late
a part of me thinks it's because silky was doing so well in the lip syncs that they wanted to milk it for good tv as much as possible. it's a twist made to get the person they didn't want to send home back in the competition and the fact that silky battled her way through was just a bonus for production
I also wanna mention that kylie played the game the best this season, better then anyone ever. and that is particularly why she won imo.
Every single time she picked a lipstick, that queen went home, on top of her being up for elimination 3 times, and never once getting her lipstick selected. She was shea coulee, and miz cracker from last season, combined. And it showed when eureka asked kylie who she should eliminate in the monologue challenge. It is undeniable that Kylie dominated the social game this season to an unrivalled degree. exceptional winner.
yeah but getting every lipstick right isnt a reason to have her as a winner. I thinl if she was given fair wins and was less boring she would have deserved it.
@@alemonyoyo69420 when i was watching the finale i couldn't help but think: "this is what happens when you pick vanilla over rocky road"
@@ZbJeeBies they had such a gold mine with the other three- Particularly Rajah who was so hated on her original season-
@@alemonyoyo69420 You've commented a total of 14 times on this video and EVERY SINGLE comment has included something negative towards Kylie.. are you that bothered and obsessed with her?
You genuinely need help because I'm smelling a strong scent of transphobia for someone to comment 14 times and shit on a contestant 14 times for no reason, if you think she doesn't deserve the crown that's your opinion, but to call her trash and discredit her 14 times not to mention the fact that you implied she won because she's trans.. please stop watching drag race and go get help
@@zaldigr863 Drag them! They even have the audacity to say that they don't like the crowning on S11 because they *HATE* Yvie.
I think Kylie should have won snatch game and Ginger the acting challenge. The acting challenge did seem a little like a forced win for Kylie, when they could have easily given her a win for snatch game.
I agree. Kylie absolutely got fed that acting challenge win and the lipsync win as well, but the truth is probably that their eventual winner didn’t have one particular challenge they knew she’d win. The closest would be the dance challenge (since that’s Kylie’s strength), but she wasn’t even close to the win on the Super Bowl challenge or the Show-up queen.
They just weren’t counting on Kylie to do as well as she did on Snatch Game, so they knew they had to give her something since she didn’t have one yet and they were starting to narrow down already. If they had just let it play out, she would’ve gotten the perfect rudemption by winning the challenge that sent her home and her being the very first victim of the Snatch game to top it off.
It would have been a good storyline, with her going home to snatch game originally then slaying her all stars snatch game and winning.
UNTIL NOW, SCARLET ENVY IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST RIGGED AND SNOBBED QUEEN ON RUPAUL's DRAG RACE!!! Her critiques from the judges are so over exaggerated, like how do you feel "uncomfortable" watching someone share their story with her two moms??! Some challenges where Scarlet could have won or even on the top, but still got snobbed... 😭☹️💀
So.. I am happy for Kylie, but the whole Ru-merican horror story was the most rigged decision in this season, they wanted her to win the season and they knew they have to give her a maxi challenge win! Michelle told her what to do, she showed her how to play it, in previous seasons queens would be sent to the bottom if they had to be produced like that!!!
I felt the same.
Yes. And form me, She didn't even deliver It.
I almost feel like Ginger and KSL's wins should've been reversed. Ginger could've gotten a win for that AHS parody (or maybe JAN or Pandora), and KSL could've won for Snatch Game. I said in another comment, KSL was the first girl to go home on Snatch Game back on Season 2. So a good bit of poetic justice could've been her winning Snatch Game on her All-Stars run. Ginger was good in that too, but it would've made a lot more sense in the end.
Btw, Scarlet is Pearl's drag daughter, so Ru was unlikely to ever give her a win. Denali positively mentioning Pearl in her "What'cha Packin'" surprised Michelle, so I can see those feelings against Pearl are still there (Pearl reacting to Ru and Michelle's podcast bit on her is art).
the only reason i was even slightly upset about the finale was because i had heard the rumor about double crownings being filmed so i kinda got my hopes up and expected both kylie and raja to win
The rumors were true. They had filmed everyone winning and many double crownings
While I’m not surprised that they were filmed, I’m kinda confused as to why people thought a double win would happen this season (or any recent season after AS4, really). It’s only been two years since the first one, and I don’t think they’d do a second one so soon. Plus, before the finale aired, there was tons of support for both Ra’Jah and Kylie, and Ginger, too. Many fans said they’d be fine with any finalist winning. I think we all know the reaction the All Stars 4 finalists was… not that. I didn’t expect a double win at all this season, I didn’t think (according to production, at least) that there’d be a “need” for one.
Why would you think another double crowning would ever happen?!
Allstars 6 seemed to consider it - but since then it's clear they're not doing it again. It just creates a scenario where both Queens are pitted against each other for who "deserved" the crown and who didn't. Fans have argued since AS4 about how the crowning was "rigged" because Monet destroyed Trinity in the ls, or how the crowning was "rigged" because Monet didn't have Trinity's track record. DR is not in the business of tearing down their winners, just look at AS7.
Akeria got screwed on AS6, and I'm glad she didn't return for that stupid lipsync challenge..Also, I hate that if you are not in the top you are in the bottom thing. I hate that it sent Alexis Mateo home the episode she did well along with Juju. The person who should have went home was Blair.
OMG Im gagged that someone else noticed that:
1. The lipsync assassins were paired against queens of their seasons, or sent them home,
2. The top 4 is suspiciously country 👀
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Didn’t ginger comment on the country thing or did I imagine that? Either way fr
Honestly Akeria was done the worst in this season in my opinion.
I agree!
Yes! I felt like they put her in the bottom when a front runner did bad and they didn't want to put them in the bottom. *cough cough* the halftime show *cough cough*
And i feel like she saw that... which led to her not agreeing to lipsync
@@amosbehavedcalm that was prolly cause everyone was eliminated after returning
@@blandface9957 wait who r u talkin about?
Whew, Season 13 was rigamorris central. This season was actually phenomenal. I'd also place it above Season 2. I think the pandemic changed people. Made them nicer...? More grateful? I dunno, but the queens all supported each other, this season was kind, the queens were all TOP TALENT, and it was just incredible to watch.
I actually agree. The pandemic has made people realise that who they were prior might not be all that great and has allowed some people time to stop and think
True! It made a lot of us more appreciative of human interaction and just the people we get to be around in general.
I think the queens were all very aware that if they don’t act congenial the entire time the fanbase is going to ruin their mental health and career. That’s why there was no villain edit, the queens edited themselves
@@Haittavero Some of them were VERY concerned with how they came across (Silky, Jan, and to a lesser extent Eureka), but I think a lot of them were really being real. And I think RU's mean ass even enjoyed the season!
“This video is a love letter to all stars 6”
Me: aw that’s lovely
*checks video length*
Me: ....okay let’s buckle up
honestly like.. idk if this is shady but if i was Jan, the second i saw Silkys guitar just sat there... i would've thrown it so far off the stage lmao
I would've grabbed it before her 💀
But I saw someone say that the whole guitar break should've been Jan and Silky holding each end of the guitar trying to grab it from the other
!! The guitar wasn't even a reveal, it was just there on the stage. I would've thrown/kicked that guitar off-stage but production would probably cut that to stage another prop/gag moment for Silky.
@@Nadia-jk5jw I dont know how many times its had to be explained. Silky had the guitar under her coat and she placed it on the stage floor. it is just that part of it was edited out in the episode. Silky has verbally confirmed this. It was not and is not some conspiracy from production. Silky physically made that guitar from pizza boxes. Silky chose to come fighting every lipsync. Jan had plenty of time as well to make props but she just decided to have a wig reveal and break stage lights lol
@@starskreem8258 I read the backstory for how Silky improvised making props last minute for each of the lip syncs, including sewing the look for Barbie girl & making the guitar, but personally still found the reveals & prop use tired after the 1st 3 times. If she brought it under her coat, placed on the floor & picked it back up that still isn't a clean or shocking reveal. The camera breaking was more surprising and fitting the rock & roll theme. & For half of silky's last lip sync her leg was stuck in her inflatable costume. But for 4/6 lip syncs I think Silky did amazing
Thats what I was thinking 🤣
There was totally rigging this season but what helped this be one of the best seasons of them all is that the rigging wasn’t as obvious at it has been recently.
I think its the fact that riggory ussualy lead to a good thing. Like Ginger giving us "Phone" and Kylie giving us "Dirtty". And the season was so fun because the main point of this season wasn't winning the crown, like almost no one came only for the crown but because they wanted a rudemption which made it exiting. Also we had a lot of early season early outs and it was exiting to see how they all improved.
I wouldnt say as obvious i would say that they hid it well bcs if u just stop and analyze it just a little u would see it clearly
I think we’re just getting used to it tbh. We let ourselves oversee it
Idk the rigorry on the lipsync battle royale was kinda obvious to me. Like Silky, who is notoriously messy, beats Jan in a lipsync, on a 5+ girl streak, and THEN gets suspiciously messy again? 🧐🤔
@@sigh824 she beat all the girls fair and square and was beaten fair and square
For the Super Bowl challenge, Jiggly and Silky said at Roscoe’s that they had to pick musical acts that actually performed at the Super Bowl in some capacity. Silky originally picked Missy Elliott - which is why she had the fat suit in the ‘Since U Been’ lip sync. Jiggly also wanted Missy, but production told her that Missy was taken, so she picked Janet instead.
Whoa! I wondered why she just happened to have a fat suit that looked exactly like the one Missy Elliott had.
Wait we got robbed of Janet Jackson and Missy Elliott production how dare you
Kylie’s acting in the RuMerican Horror Story was terrible, she should’ve been low. However I would argue she should’ve won Snatch Game over Ginger
It’s weird too because Ginger probably should’ve won the acting challenge. Ru got them reversed.
I see it kinda like season 6 snatch game, where Bianca was a bit funnier, but Dela saved Trinity's moments from becoming awful by saving her moments. Ginger played for both.
Nah Kylie ate🤨
The way Michelle had to get up and show Kylie. AS IF THAT WOULD BE OK!! Like there’s no way! Any other contestant would’ve been in the bottom. So stupid. They literally forced her to be in the top and her goth runway was not GOTH! She was simply naked
@@triasmchenry5742 Nudity and Goth aren't mutually exclusive.
Honestly if I was a producer I would’ve ended the game within a game at Silky v Jan, given them a double save, then had 8 queens for Snatch Game so it’s still balanced
Ah true. It would’ve been good to do it early so they have s chance and it feels legitimate
I wonder who Jan and Silky were planning to be for SG
I feel like unlike other all star ... The top 4 was balanced and the winner was worthy .... This was a truly wonderful season. .... And i hate that it ended .... Also Kylie winning loved it ❤️❤️
SO TRUE! The top 4 was so amazing and anyone could’ve won! And Kylie winning was just a cherry on top of the whole season. So sad it’s ended but so happy it happened.
Yeah trinity, Kylie, Ginger and Ra'Jah were perfect top 4s
Amazing! And I feel like the final episode was the example of ‘doesn’t matter what happened, this is a race, impress me on the final stretch’. And they all did so good, but it was like Kylie FULLY GOT SUPERPOWERS on the last episode, I was obsessed with her the entire episode and she deserves the crown. Such a talented cast 💅🏾
@@GwyndOwO eureka, kylie, Ginger and Ra’Jah*
@@thekiiing2073 Girl kylie was not that impressive in the finale. Imo she did very well in the challenge but the runway was meh and she fell during the lip sync
I think Kylie should have got the Snatch Game win. She did so incredibly which nobody expected, and especially the fact that she left on a snatch game? The narrative of her win would have made so much sense and been such a clear redemption.
agree
She didn't just leave on Snatch Game. She left on the very first Snatch Game on Season 2. Hence why giving her the win on Snatch Game would've made SO much more sense.
Serena was only brought back so people can laugh at her and that’s so lame.
Jokes on them, we all know Serena was done dirty the second walked in
She's a person who isn't socially aware. Just gross. No one deserves a lifelong of bullying
I never understood the Serena hate.
She pretty much made season 5‘s Untucked very entertaining and keeping her longer in the competition could have really shaken things up :)
@@kev7600 also, she’s not the same 21 year old person she was back in season 5. It wouldn’t hurt anyone if she stayed at least one more episode.
@@brayan_rioya Exactly!
Let’s be honest, Eureka got her first win because they knew that (1) people have caught on to the returning queen always go home after coming back trope and (2) it would’ve been the easiest vote in the world if anyone else won because Eureka would’ve had 0 wins, safe, bottom 2 times and 1 elimination.
I love how in All Stars 5 they only had to rig one thing in the very first episode to make it a good season. Don’t send Derrick Barry home in episode 1 but they couldnt do it???
LITERALLY
Thank God someone else agrees!! The fandom hated Derrick in S8 which I didn't understand because Derrick was funny and entertaining. Even Naomi, who fought with Derrick alot also, admitted it was a huge mistake because Derrick is good TV and I think it's him naturally like that which is even better!
hm i don't agree that kylie won the acting challenge. ginger, pandora and jan gave really great performances, while kylie actually did 60% of what michelle asked. when i was watching, i trully thought that kylie was going to be in the bottom because i felt that she was worse than rajah.
yeah i agree, kylie was hand held way too much in that acting challenge. if there was a challenge where she could’ve won was the monologue or the snatch game
Yeah they REALLY handed her that win. Twas weird
i agree. i think that win of hers is very questionable, personally i would have put kylie in the top for the halftime challenge and probably give her the win for the snatch game, that would have made more sense for me
Pandora was a more realistic winner for rumerican and high placement for Rusical
People said "the casts keep getting worse we don't need all stars every year"
This season proved that yes we DO need it every, so many queens who weren't on yet and good queens keep on coming
While this casting is one of the bests, I think it's better to let all stars seasons have longer gaps in order to have a bigger pool of queens to choose from, tho it does come with the problem that the pool size will get bigger given how production pumps the main seasons like ru pumps oil from his fracking farm
We dont....
There are 13 seasons, there are already Alot of queen's
@@santiagonova8040 gurl that last line had me dying lmao
I also think Kylie's win have something to do with rupaul transphobic controversy. Kind of to shut down that image of rupaul
i love kylie and i’m beyond happy that she won but honestly she shouldn’t have had the win in the rumerican horror story. like michelle was giving her a lot of notes before literally acting out her entire scene for her. there was just other girls that were better and more natural in their acting. i do stan kylie tho, just a bit of an unfair edit in this episode
also when she was acting production heavily edited it with effects and stuff to make it seen more funny while other queens didnt have that edit
As a AHS fan, Kylie acted exactly like Fiona Goode (doing comedy obviously)
honestly kylie was doing great before the notes and when michelle showed her how to do the scene I was cringeing because Michelle did 10x worse than everything Kylie was giving. It was obviously a stunt Michelle was pulling but it was unnecessary and has led to everyone questioning the win despite Kylie embodying Jessica Lange to a T.
@Sebastián Baeza I'm not talking about Jessica Lange, I'm talking about the personality of Fiona Goode and how she behave. Jessica Lange is my favorites actress and I know that top her is hard.
She should have won Snatch Game though
if jans runway broke the tie between her and tkb, akerias runway (which was arguably the best of the entire season imo) should have saved her from the bottom in the same episode
A’keria did so well in the halftime show and her runway was absolutely stunning, her bottom placement was one of the most riggamorris things from the show.
@@_.Idk._ absolutely, when they called tops and bottoms I was convinced she was in the top and that eureka was in the bottom, imagine my surprise lol
The Devil works hard, but not as hard as the Drag Detective works fast.
IMO A'Keria is the perfect example of why you don't want to come back on All Stars too soon. IMO the only person who actually redeemed themself after coming back soon on this season was Silky.
Rajah as well, though I think she was always great
@@Fatedwhims Rajah is amazing! I’d definitely count her as a redemption as well.
This happened with Jan too unfortunately
@@Nick867 100% Jan as well, unfortunately
Rajah
I think Yara winning the variety show was fair. Like it or not RuPaul was living. And there is a difference between a TALENT show and a VARIETY show. If it was presented as a talent show, shaking a breastplate is not a talent, no way she should win. But a variety show is just, “put on a short highly entertaining performance” and Yara did that. That also explains Silky’s placement (while I do think Jiggly was worse and should have been low instead). Silky’s performance was UNDENIABLY talented, but it wasn’t particularly entertaining, unlike her lipsyncs.
THISS!!
"We knew Trixie was gonna win ... Somehow" The shade. The shade of it all
I don’t think Kylie deserved her horror story win. Michelle had to get up and physically show her what to do. Pandora did amazing without help (or screentime) and was only safe. I do think Kylie deserved a win for snatch game
Bob and Thorgy talking about Ginger's monologue had me dying lol. Thanks for the amazing video! A season like this really deserves all the in-depth content it's getting
heavy on the “idk what akeria did to production” cause she did a great job this season tbh. also there is something to be said about the lip sync smackdown stopping the week TRINITY goes home. could you imagine the fight she would’ve had to have a chance to come back!! kylie and rajah is the double crowning i needed
Me the other day: this season has been the least rigged season in a while.
Me after seeing how long this video is: maybe not…
well i mean its all subjective, i disagree with a decent amount of this video i feel like a lot of the decisions were fair (not all of them examples being yara’s and kylie’s winning) and also the thing about all stars is the queens eliminate eachother so they pick whatever criteria they want when it comes to eliminating pther queens
The list of performers for the Half Time Show is already pretty short because the Half Time Show as we know it didn't even really start until probably the 90's. Until then, it was mostly marching bands and maybe sometimes a music artist would perform (such as Carol Channing). So there is really only about 25 years of performers to choose from. edit: And also, so many of the acts have been men and/or groups so that limits the options even further.
C’mon data
The only type of sports facts I’m interested in.
Does the data also include the artists that were not the main ones like Missy Elliot in the Superbowl that featured Katy Perry?
@@adolfoarias6857 I think so. The women or groups with female main singers who have headlined are: Diana Ross, Shania Twain, No Doubt, Jessica Simpson, Janet Jackson, Black Eyed Peas, Madonna, Beyoncé, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Shakira and JLo.
The non-headliner female performers are: Carol Channing, Ella Fitzgerald, Gloria Estefan, Tanya Tucker, Patti Labelle, Martha Reeves, Queen Latifah, Christina Aguilera, Toni Braxton, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige, Nicki Minaj, and Missy Elliot. So there were still quite a few good options to choose from, but the complete list isn't really that long, and tbh most of the queens took roles that would be pretty likely for them to do really well in. There are quite a few that weren't chosen that I think weren't chosen for good reason.
And of the list of men that performed, I think Prince, Steve Tyler, MJ, and maybe Bruno Mars are the only ones that are campy enough that you could really do for a drag show.
I see your point on "Why would Ginger pick Fergie?" but raise you "Why would production pick Carol Channing?"
Pandora did Carol Channing for her original snatch game and she did brilliant. Thats why.
Willam spilled the beans with his tell all when he was disqualified.
The producers told him if he stayed he would be top four. Of course its rigged!!
*coughs in art simone*
maybe they meant in a way that he was good enough to make it to top 4
this was my favorite season ever. i love the winner but i do wish it was a double crowning tbh lol. but seriously this was a major step up from AS5, DRDU1 and DR13.
Nah, you're not gonna convince me that TKB didn't deserve the win on the half time show performance. Not only did she perform the choreo well, she WAS Beyonce. Jan performed great, but it didn't feel as seamless. I did not see Gaga, i saw Jan as Jan perfoming the house down and trying to evoke Gaga with her expressions. Basically, we could see her trying.
Also, yes her runway look was good, but it wasn't the showstopper that overshadowed Trinity that everyone seems to make it out to be. TKBs look was stunning as well, I don't get the critiques at all. To be honest, i even prefer TKBs look, it's a great silhouette, it's just pure elegance but with a twist in the unconventional material and textures. Jan's felt costume-y and a bit boxy in comparison. The blonde hair didn't make sense either.
And i say all this with just as much conviction as Jan was robbed in Episode 1.
I didn't like how Akeria and Scarlett were treated in the judging - I thought the critiques of them were often false, and they were unfairly overlooked when they did amazing. I didn't like the fan backlash against Jan. I thought TKB deserved to be in the top 4, and I thought Ginger didn't (the judging was rigged in her favor too often). But I'm happy with Kylie winning. I'd have been happy with Raja or TKB winning and with any double-crowning between the 3 of them. I totally understand why Akeria chose not to lip sync to get back in, and I hope her career goes great after this.
I’m so sad TKB didn’t get into the top 4 😪 I agree with everything you have said!
I mean Scarlett was just annoying as hell, and Akeria should have gone in episode 2. Both very bad queens that shouldn't have been invited.
While i love kylie i and i was happy that she won i still dont thing that she shouldnt have won the rumerican horror story challenge plus the show didnt gave her an winner storyline its just doesnt fell right with me i dunno
she did get winner storyline she literally was a queen who was focus on a lot this season and her ultimate snatch game and runways rudemption were what made her stand out the most
Yes, I agree. I think her one win feels unnecessary pushed, because she was more deserving of winning other challenges that she didn't win. plus on the horror story challenge Ginger, Pandora, Eureka were way more memorable and funny.
@@missthangd4311 she has less confesionals than rajah in the ENTIRE season BY EPISODE 8
@@jpmedina8328 well in ur opinion cause I thought they had pretty even amount of confessional screen time plus kylie’s presence in the entire competition gave me winner vibes since the moment she entered she didn’t need a direct storyline
@@missthangd4311 and that is your opnion (i counted the confessionals girl)
I do agree that Eureka came off as more likable and genuine this season. But to say that they weren’t pushed by production this time. Chile…
with eurekas past actions, production had no choice but to push her a good edit so they (production) didnt get as much backlash for bringing her back....
Scarlet's elimination HURT me when it happened. I can't find the clip but I remember Ru called her performance "disturbing" or something along those lines, which felt like it came completely out of nowhere. As someone who might be on the autism spectrum I really related to Scarlet, how other queens and the judges often misread her body language thinking she was mean/rude/disinterested when that wasn't the case. Seeing her be criticized so harshly for her body language not fitting what the judges wanted, and being called disturbing for the way that she emoted while telling incredibly personal stories on television just felt so wrong to me. Like if you thought her stories were boring or she wasn't as entertaining as the other queens is one thing, but telling her that her genuine emotional expressions while telling personal stories were somehow 'incorrect' just felt so so wrong and cruel.
She has autism?
i agree! Ru said it made him 'uncomfortable'
okay but who do you think holds 2nd, 3rd and 4th place?
i think
ra’jah - 2nd
ginger - 3rd
eureka -4th
I agree
This is difficult because Ru Paul seems to like Eureka and Ginger more then Rajah. Id have to say if it based on Ru Pauls taste and not personal Id say Eureka was second, Rajah third and Ginger 4th. Personally for me i would also agree with this order.
Nope. The rupaul calling Ginger as the "biggest star" and " the total package", rupaul wanted her to win but the productions got the final say.
@@faro8594 Yeah nah. Ru Paul saying that was obviously being done because Ru was never going to pick Ginger. Both gingers wins especially the first one was given to her so she could win a substantial amount of money. Ginger winning 60k was done so they could get away with not giving her the crown.
@@starskreem8258 neither was kylies only win was justified either her acting was monotoned like her runways. Anways like what you said Ginger had 60k that's basically the similar to what Kylie is gonna get after taxes.
Just some things:
Madonna also sometimes does high kicks and it's not only a Eureka-thing
And Scarlett is also originally from the South. So she could have also fit into the top four Country song
The season in general skewed south. Akeria could’ve also been up there. RIP Jan tho, they def didn’t want her to have her pop star moment.
Honestly I kept forgetting that Pandora was in this season when I was watching, which sucks because I LOVE Pandora.
Im so tired of seeing big girls receives consistent hate. Its so toxic. A big girl will never win because the fans never get behind them.
Interesting to say the table talk was riggory but that rumerican story wasnt? 🤔
i mean i agree with you that it is the fans' fault but I mean..... eureka was never going to win based on track record alone and people wanted to see ginger do *new* things and she just regurgitated what she has done on previous seasons, just my opinion tho
I love how when the fans collectively call for a robbed queen. UA-cam channels always defend that status for the white girls but never for the other girls. Wild.
I feel as if Ginger wasn’t put in the bottom with her team in episode 5 because ginger would be at relatively high risk of being sent home as I think Ginger had the worst track record up to that point of her team at least.
Jan: Safe, Safe, Bottom, Win
Ginger: Safe, Safe, Bottom, Low
Pandora: High, Safe, High, Safe
ginger won that challenge? she was nowhere near the worst of the week
@@oliversmithlawrence She did awful....
@@oliversmithlawrence They say in the video that it should have been judged in teams completely, and Ginger did fail her job in preparing her team
This season felt like it went really quickly like we didn’t really get to see them much in the work room which I really enjoy them interacting like in uk especially s2 we get a lot of time with them but in as6 it would cut and got straight to the runway, and I didn’t really like the twist I think as2 and how the queens got back in was the best way and was a success as we didn’t get to see much of them such as the queens that were early out in as6. However i enjoyed this season and loved all the queens tho but some of the wins I am a bit iffy about like I think ginger should of won the rumerican horror story, Tkb could of won the half time but jan did do well so it’s was very close between them, Kylie should of won snatch and Tkb or akeria could of won the table talk but Eureka did well as well. And Scarlett was very over looked . But I’m glad for the top 4 and it was so close between Kylie and rajah.
The season did feel like it went quickly and we didn’t see a lot of personal interaction between them. Jan’s runway for the halftime show is why is won instead of TKB imo
I think the season would have been so much better if they did have Eureka win the Pink Table, Kylie win Snatch Game and Ginger won The Acting Challenge..it would have fit storyline better and it would have made the competition more even
@@sm8001 don’t u mean the half time episode
at first by just looking at the cast, I really thought this season would have a lot of fights and drama (that I wouldve lived for) but I stand corrected, almost all of the queens were pretty congenial this season
@@millieboon Yes! Thank you
Yara's elimination is still so funny to me because every other elimination was based on track record. Yara had a win while A'keria didn't. Essentially, the queens voted off the only person production could've given the villain edit to so early in the compettition.
idc if y’all call me bias but jan and scarlet was definitely robbed of the first 2 episodes. They both should’ve been high or won the challenge.
I think this is the best all stars season because there wasn’t a clear production backed winner *that we could clock*. I love Kylies win and I think that she 100% deserved it. We all expected a double win since this was the first AS season where it was valid (besides AS3 if Ben hadn’t eliminated herself) but I don’t think that Kylie’s win is invalidated by anything besides the production not giving her enough airtime (if u wanna reach) and the “toxic” fandom
I mean I think a double win would've been absolutely justified on AS1, but we often forget about her lol
@@ej2632 I would say that based on the top two. But a quick glance at Raven’s track record that season would turn anyone away from that idea.
@@furby9284It would've only made sense if it was between Chad and Shannel
I knew they were going to give it to Kylie it was obvious.
everyone keep saying "ohhh the top 4 is so balanced and everyone got One win" and shit. but that was what the production wanted.
The Half Time Show Tea is The Queens picked three people out of a full list of Half Time Performers then The production picked the performer out of the three the queens gave them
That actually makes a lot of sense. I remember being confused why Ginger was complaining about Fergie. Like sis... You got to choose.
38:42 - “It was the one misstep in challenges all season”
Um chile, Drag Tots says hello. 👋🏽 That was an awful challenge tied in with a show that no one cared about, but that they needed to promote.
I think Kylie is a fine winner, but I feel like other queens did better. Product also needs to do better when writing these finally songs, but these are also just my opinions
TKB deserved to win, everybody fell in love with her and she was the kindest everytime
For me the NUMBER ONE worst decision they made was not to send Trinity home first....
She did the worst. She should have went home. Serena was fodder and it was unfair. Even the cast agreed that it was just based off Trinity having more potential, fan reaction, etc.
If they had chosen Yara to send Trinity home...... Then Trinity would have pulled the silky thing, she would have won every single lipsync and got brought back at a convenient time. Lipsyncing is her best best best skill and we were robbed of an entire episode of Trinity sending everyone home again.
No icky moments in All Stars 6?
Scarlett was overlooked?
A'keria shunned with a Chi Chi DeVayne edit?
Silky worried about making the wrong choice?
Michelle literally walking Kylie to win the challenge?
Why did Kylie not win another challenge?
TKB kicked out of the final four?
Why make the biggest twist materialize at Top 5?
Disservice to the season 11 queens (+ Trinity) with the exception of Rajah. Doesn't top All Stars 2. When you think you can celebrate more queens with a larger cast, only makes more room for more disservice.
I think AS7 should be:
Tammie
Porkchop
Jessica Wild
Nicole Paige Brooks
Acid Betty
Nasha Lopez
Dont forget beetle juice queen laila mcqueen
Acid probs won’t come back bc during season 8, they told ru that he has no right to critique makeup bc ru doesn’t do his own
Kylie was slept on for “Steven Tyler”
I’m so over Eureka’s kicks
nah kylie got way more than she deserved in that challenge- i think the song she got let her down as is was a bit lack luster
@@alemonyoyo69420 nah she sold it especially with how feminine she is on the regular
@@sungexpression9093 i thought she was eh. just like in every other challenge-
@@alemonyoyo69420 that’s you
@@sungexpression9093 ?
Ginger Minj is one of the most talented queens in the franchise and it is a travesty that she doesn’t have a crown
The biggest rigorry was the evil producers removing eureka's fifth finger
Where?💀
STOP LMFAIYFHECV 😭
@@bryangonzalez321 her promo look 🐀
G U R L ☠☠☠
Fun fact about the halftime performance - All the voice impersonators for the singers except for Steven Tyler and Prince were performed by the same person
I'm absolutely dying at the thought of Ru just shifting his glance to Ginger after a few moments of silence, then saying "Hey bitch, u won tho xoxo" 😂😂😂😂
Scarlet made a gown from fabric? Groundbreaking. She was already known for her gowns on S11. Ra'Jah and Eureka! used a freaking chair and tablecloths respectively. That's just more impressive, period.
UGH!!!! Finally someone with some sense! The part of unconventional challenges is to make garments out of unconventional materials! The gown was gorgeous but it was made out of sewing fabric!!!!
UGH! It stresses me when fans don't understand basic things
Exactly! people thinking Scarlet was robbed are so delusional, if anything Jan was robbed of a top placement in the Ball but then again all three of the top 3 did really well so it wasn’t like they didn’t deserve it.
Everyone says they'd be fine with a double crowning, but I just don't get it. Drag race should be seen as entertainting tv show first, competition second, otherwise people in the fandom get too aggressive about their faves and non-faves. So entertaining show-wise it doesn't really make sense to have both favourites win, it's not a satisfying end to a journey, the fact that we have to guess which one will win up until the last second is the best part of the show in my opinion.
I think it’s because Kylie and Ra’jah were the underdogs. Winning the challenges they went home on. Being early outs. Not very memorable. Meanwhile Ginger and Eureka are both back for a third time after having been finalists. Another big part was Kylie and Ra’jah’s friendship. They grew pretty close over the season. And it just feels right. Monet won mostly because Ru was under fire for crowing three white queens on All Stars. And Trinity has now been cancelled, in part, due to being pretty transphobic. So to have a trans woman win alongside a black queen who actually did well would be such a treat. Almost like the show acknowledging it’s mistakes.
@@furby9284 Yea, a double crowning here would've been more justified than on AS4
Im still sad of how ppl dont like ginger ? Like idk she's amazing and so multitalented to me she shouldve won tbh she was juste excellent almost Every where whereas others were only good in specific challenges
I love ginger. Her talent is undeniable and she’s soooo polished. However I feel like her runway looks are what keep her for being the icon she is
I feel like she tries way too hard to seem funny, while hardly ever making me chuckle. Like a poor man's Trixie.
Thank you!
I rooted for Ginger on s7 and as6, she was always one of my favourites. I was really surprised to hear she wasn't a fan favourite. I don't understand what in her is supposedly unlikeable? She's amazing and I love her
I think it was one of the Roscoe's videos with Yara in it, but the queens got to pick any halftime performer pre-season. Because Yara wanted to do J-Lo but Serena already picked it. And when Serena left Yara asked if she could switch back to J-Lo and they said no lol.
i saw a kylie sonique interview where she told that they send her a list of all the superbowl performers and she chose steven
and she should have been in the top in that episode in my opinion! alongside trinity and jan :)
Fyi Ginger said that Fergie was her 3rd or 4th choice so I think it was a "first come first serve" kind of gig
Pandora's carol channing deserved better as well, couldve been high that epi tbh
The lip sync smack down is the best twist drag race has had for a while, and if they’re gonna give queens the opportunity to come back I hope they do it like this going forward. Mad props to Silky she frickin nailed every single lip sync and I applaud her resourcefulness and creativity in coming up with a new gag for each one.
I have a prediction. I feel like Jan was getting pushed to be a villain at the very beginning. When you touched on that the producers may have wanted to keep the safe storyline to Jan, I think that they wanted to Jan to get a little upset when she did well in the challenge and still end up at safe and then edit it as a villain arc. I feel like they almost did this with Trinity but Trinity did not let her frustrations get out to make her look evil. The main turn to make her a villain was when at the start of Episode 5 when they were discussing why Jan chose Akeria’s lip stick instead of Yara’s.
One more unmentioned riggory when it comes to lipsyncs during this season is the "convenience" of Kylie having to perform to Dirrty... against Manila... It seemed like a perfect way to make sure that Kylie won the lipsync.
Not trying to diminish her winning the season. She was amazing, but in my eyes that was a very "lucky coincidence"
fell in love with akeria this season. glad to see it wasn’t just me getting confused about her placements.
While the KSL had a great rudemption on the show, she still had to be given a lot of direction to get there. On a regular season this could work. NOT for all stars. Rajah on the other hand, and even TBK, Eureka and others CAME CORRECT
eureka was one note and wore a bodysuit every week and was not read for anything! production loves eureka that’s why she got the win so she could send home her best friend and get rid of the diversity in the finale
@@kitgoolsby and what's so wrong with a body suit? Were they all the same pattern color or all styled the same?? Smh
@@868tatj there are queens who have been read the house for wearing a bodysuit two weeks in a row. they were boring and unoriginal. Bianca Del Rio should’ve been read for wearing the same silhouette too but Rupaul would never. Eureka didn’t turn a single look, silky however, gave us something new and elevated from before.
@@kitgoolsby u missed the part about styling. Silhouettes can be the same but u can still mix it. You also missed where I mentioned AND OTHERS. But y’all just wanna hate who u wanna hate. Can’t help ya there
all stars 5 having no ticks on that table at 1:49 😭☠️ I forgot how bland that season was
i really hope they look at how well this season was received and follow in its footsteps, this is the most entertained ive been with a season in a long long time
2:50 I just don’t agree that All Stars 6 has less “icky moments” and obvious riggery. As with any recent season, there are PLENTY of questionable moments which made it frustrating to watch for me. With your film degree and weaponised BFA, I’m surprised you didn’t acknowledge more of them.
Here are some major examples:
- Kylie was literally pushed through the “Rumerican Horror Story” acting challenge. Michelle *literally* stood up and acted out the scene for her, which I can’t remember ever happening before… and even after that, during the filming her and Ross still looked underwhelmed with Kylie’s performance. It felt more like “okay that’s acceptable” than a winning performance. Then suddenly, out of nowhere she wins and is told she “did it all by herself” etc. The final outcome just didn’t match with what we were shown throughout the episode.
- Eureka 100% should have won the “Pink Table Talk” challenge. Ru literally said her team was the best, and Ginger’s team was mediocre at best. Ginger also seemed hammed up and not as natural/conversational as Eureka. There is NO good reason why Ginger should’ve won over Eureka. This went on to cause drama later, when Ginger was seen as more of a front runner and Eureka had no wins yet. This should’ve been her win.
- Kylie Sonique Love should have won snatch game. I absolutely 100% believe this. Ginger got way too many undeserved wins this season. Kylie doing well was a lot more unexpected, and she absolutely killed it. She looked like Dolly and emodied her more than Ginger did for her character imo. For example, Phyllis Diller wasn’t overweight and some jokes Ginger said were more about Ginger, not the character. Her voice/personality was all just Ginger saying stale rehearsed jokes- whereas Kylie was organically bouncing off of things that other characters said, as well as saying lines that Dolly would say. It just would’ve felt more natural to me if Kylie won this episode over the acting one (which Ginger could’ve easily won!)
- This one is slightly less black-and-white, but I believe Trinity should have won the “Halftime Headliners” episode, and Jan was given the win purely because it looked satisfying from a story perspective. They knew that not giving Jan a win would cause uproar with the fans, and this was their chance to give her it. Trinity absolutely slayed as Beyoncé and you cannot tell me she didn’t embody her perfectly.
Due to these skewed factors, it also affected Trinity’s perception (I.e. She seemed to blindly follow what the judges stated, and thought she was doing worse than she was. The other queens also took that as an “easy out” and agreed with her.) That was one of the biggest “icky” and unfair feelings in the season for me. Without the whack win allocation, it might not have happened.
YES to everything.
The wins were so weird this season.
Trinity not winning the Half time Superbowl challenge made me so confused. She was Beyonce.
From the stage presence, to the outfit, to the choreo, she was spot on.
She allegedly lost because her runway was not as good as Jan
(but Trinity's gown was beautiful so what do people mean when they say that her gown was the reason why she lost to Jan??).
Then Akeria was in the bottom (and eliminated?) when her runway was one the best of AS6 (I think it was the flower outfit) and it should have given her a Safe card.
The table talk was won as a group by Trinity, Eureka and Akeria BUT Ginger won ?? How does this make sense?
It may be foolish thinking but imo the person who wins the challenge should be part of the group who won.
Ginger deserved to be in the bottom for the halftime show and didn't deserve her pink table talk win. FACTS.
But she didn't deserve her other times in the bottom, and she should've won the acting challenge that Kylie won
@@JoaoSilva-hy7bm agreed, she was robbed on the acting challenge, I'm saying this because that affected Akeria and Eureka's entire storyline about not winning a challenge
@@isaacleoon I hated how Akeria and Scarlett were treated this season
True I can understand the acting challenge rob but she clearly was given a favored win for the table talk
thats true, eureka should have won the pink table talk
The fans doing a full 180 on Jan the moment she won a challenge is the reason I hate this fandom.
Please do not get me wrong I love Kylie so much and this isn't a critique on her but moreso the production but her winning didn't make sense to me like she only had 1 shaky win and she didn't appear as much as her other top 4 queen's it just felt like the last episode they tried as hard as could to push her to her win which had never been the point of her story it just felt strange to me and honestly very random and also alongside that she only had the third best track record of the season and rajah was clearly given a winners edit all season long as well as having a huge fan backing to win and yes I know Kylie got the most votes online but it seemed that so many people wanted a double crowning of both of them which I would have loved to see in my opinion it's just rupaul saying "I've changed look at me crowning a trans queen" which is sad because Kylie deserves much better
And I know this is going bto sound so dramatic but Kylie winning kindve ruined the season for me it was just so random and weird that it left a really bad taste in my mouth
i 100% agree. i love kylie, even more now that she's been on all stars, her winning reaction was the cutest thing i've seen in my life. but this finale just felt really over produced i mean.. they pretty much cut rajah out of the lip sync and she was giving! just makes me question the real intentions of the show. i know people can change and its wonderful that we have a trans winner after rupaul had those nasty transphobic statements, but at the same time it feels weird bc if we're being real, she wasnt the best in the competition, im not talking about track record bc that literally hasnt mattered since 2017, just overall i feel like we weren't able to see her giving 100% competing?? and i dont know if thats production fault or she just really wasnt giving enough material since she is more reserved, but idk.. it felt really weird. i just hope they gave her the win bc they really believe in her talent and not to push the "look rupaul is not transphobic anymoree cmon guys now give us the emmys!"
@@viquetoriaa yeah perfectly summed up and it's also like she didn't really have much of a storyline and didn't appear as much throughout the season it just felt out of the blue and overproduced
Scarlett was done dirty tho... I love her so much. Jan's full talent show song is amazing !
51:20 I absolutely agree with this whole video except for this point. I totally agree that Ra'jah was underrated and disliked coming into the season. She was easily one of the biggest villains since Phi Phi, along with Silky. However, to say Kylie was unpopular or not considered for the top is just not true. A lot of people were really rooting for Kylie because of her showcasing on the Christmas special, her stand out promo look, and the fact that we're getting more trans representation on all-stars. Sure, she's from an older season and a lot of newer fans might not know exactly who she is; but putting her on the same level as Ra'jah, a queen who was relentlessly harassed with an absolutely awful fan reception for the most part, is a stretch. Kylie was a clean slate for the most part while Ra'jah had to crawl her way up from the pits of hell with the fans.
Don't get me wrong, I think Kylie is hugely deserving of the crown. She truly did redeem herself and showed her true star power. But there's just something super special about seeing Ra'jah, and Silky for that matter, completely turn around their reputation with the fans. For me, those are the three winners of this season.
I barley knew who Kylie was, I don’t think I watched her season past ep 3
It really upsets me when someone wins, and people go out of their way to try and discredit it
literally, and it happens with every winner nowadays, like do we not learn?
Nooo people have critical opinions 😭😭
@Tweek Tweak damn, wishing you all the best
channels like these don’t really help tho.. fans doing math to validate whoever should win, but that just ain’t how these shows work - it’s about so much more than that. I watch it because I like it and can comprehend it as just an opinion, but so many people in this toxic ass fandom are relying on this kinda stuff like it’s their bible. when did we stop to just enjoy this show for what it is and always has been?
@Tweek Tweak oh I'm sorry about that babes, I hope things get better for you
Silky did the absolute most in those lipsyncs she deserves to be commended
i just thought of something about the assasin thing, do the lipsync assasins have to quarantine for 2 weeks? because if they do then they could just choose the assasin based on the winner of the challenge if that makes sense which would explain the thing with Jessica alledgedly having a different calender date. n e ways that was just my thought.