The Unrigging of Drag Race All Stars 3

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Drag Race All Stars 3 is known as one of the twistiest seasons of them all. The crazy self-elimination by frontrunner BenDeLaCreme, the last minute jury twist, and the return of a previous winner! Even Trixie Mattel coming off as the eventual winner rubbed a lot of fans the wrong way. Lots of aspects came together from producers to try and make this season bigger and better than All Stars 2. But based on the fan reception, it failed on that front.
    So where exactly did producers intervene to help move the season along? In a season that is notorious for its riggory, I go episode by episode, ranking the queens' performances in each challenge, and determining how the placements should have went if the season was judged fairly. How will this affect the final 4? Will fan favs like Trixie Mattel and BenDeLaCreme still make deep runs in the season?
    Let me know how you think the season should have went in the comments below!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 627

  • @makinglifecolourful
    @makinglifecolourful 2 роки тому +1276

    Chi Chi was dealing with a degenerative disease during the season. I agree she wasn’t at her best, I’m just letting you know because you mentioned you didn’t know what was going on with her. She mentioned in interviews that her mobility was limited and the cost to do AS3 because she know this was her last opportunity to showcase her drag before dancing became almost impossible. May she Rest In Peace.

    • @antoj.5119
      @antoj.5119 2 роки тому +53

      I had no idea. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @jakehanni
      @jakehanni 2 роки тому +20

      Rip ❤️

    • @bernardsoul5186
      @bernardsoul5186 Рік тому +22

      Exactly, I'm surprised everyone continues to judge her so harshly

    • @matthewlucas4990
      @matthewlucas4990 Рік тому +6

      This might be true, I'm sure she was feeling the effects by then... but All Stars 3 filmed in 2017. She was diagnosed in 2018 and didn't publicly speaking about losing her ability to dance until 2020. When she agreed to do All Stars 3, she had no reason to believe her ability to move was in jeopardy.

    • @quackaddict9810
      @quackaddict9810 Рік тому +84

      @@matthewlucas4990 what a ridiculous comment. So she couldn’t have been feeling the effects of a disease before a doctor told her she had the disease? Get out of here.

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +1726

    I’m sad that we’ll never get to see Aja given the praise she deserves on drag race

    • @DragDetective
      @DragDetective  2 роки тому +308

      screaming, crying, and throwing up just want her back

    • @Sleepylamb7
      @Sleepylamb7 2 роки тому +90

      Honestly I could see her coming back for an all stars in the future. She’s gone back to drag. Right now she obviously doesn’t need drag race but maybe in the future.

    • @Chittamama16
      @Chittamama16 2 роки тому +37

      Aja does drag, but in the ballroom scene only.

    • @tigernarwhallow1102
      @tigernarwhallow1102 2 роки тому +38

      @@Sleepylamb7 unfortunately i dont think Aja will ever be back, which of course hurts as she is probably one of my favorite queens from the show ever, but Aja was done dirty and deserves the best

    • @RamiroCuchoAvalos
      @RamiroCuchoAvalos 2 роки тому +8

      Aja deserves more, and her confessionals

  • @dixierae3442
    @dixierae3442 2 роки тому +445

    It breaks my heart to think that Chi Chi may have already been under the effects of the devastating illness that took her life. Rest in Perfection Chi Chi.

    • @lamejor615
      @lamejor615 2 роки тому +31

      I'm genuinely grateful that the viewers had one more opportunity to see her growth since season 8. Such a wonderfully charming and talented Queen.

  • @gabrielflores497
    @gabrielflores497 2 роки тому +909

    "There's not much riggory on this season..."
    * 50 minutes after watching the video *
    Literally everything changed except for episode 1...

    • @LM11116
      @LM11116 2 роки тому +139

      yeah but once there's one change it obviously butterfly effects throughout the rest of the season

    • @taylorgrimes4408
      @taylorgrimes4408 2 роки тому +44

      Also the talk of favoritism in the editing of the season, and I feel like there is a lot of favoritism toward Bebe and thorgy in this video.

    • @adolfoarias6857
      @adolfoarias6857 2 роки тому +6

      @@LM11116 Well... I think that depends on the situation. For example, if Dela would have sent ChiChi home instead of Morgan, AS3 would have played the season just with their placements switched

    • @NyanGiraffe
      @NyanGiraffe 2 роки тому +5

      @@taylorgrimes4408 I would actually say there's disfavoritism towards Shangela in this video. But at least she beat Trixie this time

    • @orangebiscuits3848
      @orangebiscuits3848 2 роки тому +1

      @@NyanGiraffe The only time I felt pure favoritism was for Shangela and Dela in the Divas Live challenge they got the parts with the most comedy and it was very unfair to the girls and Shangela didn't even get choreo

  • @charligan
    @charligan 2 роки тому +241

    funny how one rigged performance against thorgy changed her whole trajectory this season 😭

    • @paola53197
      @paola53197 Рік тому +7

      I'm latw to this video but it would have made the season soooo much better

    • @Mourne_S_E
      @Mourne_S_E Рік тому +14

      Just as production planned. They just didn’t see her for what she is

  • @nicoboggs1517
    @nicoboggs1517 2 роки тому +814

    Still think Bebe took off her Wig bc she said she hadn't kept up with Drag Race and from season 1, she associated taking off a Wig to be a show stopper and emotionally vulnerable move.

    • @jonathanunger9
      @jonathanunger9 2 роки тому +39

      I thought the same thing

    • @sana_fanboi
      @sana_fanboi 2 роки тому +8

      nah im not buying it

    • @nicoboggs1517
      @nicoboggs1517 2 роки тому +98

      @@sana_fanboi You're instead buying that there was a conspiracy involving several ppl who managed not to leak a word of it, when they could have just given Ben the win regardless of what happened?

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +147

      @@nicoboggs1517 Also Bebe took her wig off and won a lip sync on her original season, again removing it at the emotional peak of the song. And it was clear she had NOT kept up with Drag Race (and hey, she was working, good for her to be too busy for reality tv).

    • @tajidaartist
      @tajidaartist 2 роки тому +10

      She did that on purpose because she knew she had Shanglas name and didn’t want to reveal it

  • @insertaccountname4209
    @insertaccountname4209 2 роки тому +587

    So many queens like aja, and thorgy were done so dirty, so I'm curious how this will play out

  • @Jamieswiftie13
    @Jamieswiftie13 2 роки тому +766

    I think people say they like AS4 less because of the double win and the lack of good challenges after Manilla gets Manilled.

    • @daniel6678
      @daniel6678 2 роки тому +61

      There’s literally only one challenge after Manila leaves though? Don’t get me wrong it was an awful challenge but it’s literally that and then the finale

    • @Jamieswiftie13
      @Jamieswiftie13 2 роки тому +123

      @@daniel6678 and the finale was horrible too, especially after Read u Wrote u and Kitty Girl being so good, superqueen was just… crickets

    • @mynciee
      @mynciee 2 роки тому +5

      tea

    • @daniel6678
      @daniel6678 2 роки тому +19

      @@Jamieswiftie13 Fair, although I didn’t think Kitty Girl was that great either lol

    • @astrisperspecto4130
      @astrisperspecto4130 2 роки тому +35

      The double win was a mistake.

  • @ccdaly2561
    @ccdaly2561 2 роки тому +299

    I could see Thorgy coming into Snatch Game as Stevie Nicks just to rub it in that she was still there and absolutely killing it.

    • @DraperStan23
      @DraperStan23 11 місяців тому +4

      It would be tough, but I’m sure Thorgy could pull it off better then the producers.

  • @GabrielFelipe-ou1pp
    @GabrielFelipe-ou1pp 2 роки тому +900

    In the Kitty Girls challenge, they had to create characters and play them in performance. It wasn't a branding challenge, so Trixie and Bendela were the best.

    • @edendiangelo98
      @edendiangelo98 2 роки тому +127

      Indeed. It was Girl Group Challenge. I totally disagree with DeLa in the bottom. To my opinion, Top 2 was DeLa and Trixie or BeBe. But it's your season DragDetective and I respect it ! Condragulations for all this work ! It was a huge amount of time I guess !😘

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +16

      I mean it's a girl group challenge first and foremost. So I think top should go by performance. Aja and Bebe had the best performances with Trixie just below.

    • @GabrielFelipe-ou1pp
      @GabrielFelipe-ou1pp 2 роки тому +54

      @@c.k.8585 Creating a character was part of the challenge, mainly because it was a Spice Girls-inspired challenge, which had distinct and specific personas, so that should also be taken into consideration, not just the quality of the performance.

    • @thatfishguy4991
      @thatfishguy4991 2 роки тому +9

      I’d argue that it was Bendelacreme and Bebe at the top. Bebe’s verse was fucking hilarious.

    • @everydayLMK
      @everydayLMK 2 роки тому +10

      Idk not to be the bitch but I really thought Bebe deserved her top placement. The level of iconic is far too much with Jungle Kitty. Was it an original character? Nah. But it was done in a way that was impossible NOT to praise and give it a top placement (in my opinion)!

  • @anaismonchecourt3539
    @anaismonchecourt3539 2 роки тому +265

    The instrument Trixie is playing is an autoharp, an harpsichord basically looks like a small piano 😊

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 2 роки тому

      It’s a lyre

    • @ls-rk6hw
      @ls-rk6hw 2 роки тому +11

      @@CashelOConnolly girl no it's an autoharp

    • @supergrover17
      @supergrover17 Рік тому

      From Wiki: An autoharp or chord zither is a string instrument belonging to the zither family. It uses a series of bars individually configured to mute all strings other than those needed for the intended chord. The term autoharp was once a trademark of the Oscar Schmidt company, but has become a generic designation for all such instruments, regardless of manufacturer.[1][2]

  • @jpwest1669
    @jpwest1669 2 роки тому +255

    I think Bebe would've eliminated Thorgy rather than Trixie at the Girl Groups episode, but honestly Thorgy in a top 4 on AS would be a dream so I'm not mad lol

    • @AngryCandy89
      @AngryCandy89 2 роки тому +4

      I agree.

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +17

      And Trixie's performance on Kitty Girl was iconic. I don't think Thorgy would have given as good a performance there.

    • @herefortheshrimp1469
      @herefortheshrimp1469 2 роки тому +3

      I’m am THRILLED to see that drag race fans are finally really giving Thorgy her roses 🌹

  • @dariuswaka3490
    @dariuswaka3490 2 роки тому +326

    When duty calls, drag detective comes running

  • @BROProductionCompany
    @BROProductionCompany 2 роки тому +269

    I love how you said this season didn't have a ton of rigging, then proceeded to have a top 4 that only included 1 of the original 4.

    • @GiveMePopperz
      @GiveMePopperz 2 роки тому +38

      If you change 1 elimination it has a massive knock on effect on the rest of the season as it’s all speculation lol of course it wouldn’t play out like this exactly

    • @Seiomt
      @Seiomt 8 місяців тому

      2 of the original*

    • @BROProductionCompany
      @BROProductionCompany 8 місяців тому +3

      @@SeiomtOriginal Top 4: Shangela, Kennedy, Trixie and Bebe.
      Drag Detectives Top 4: Aja, Dela, Thorgy and Bebe.
      Bebe is the only person from the og top 4, that is in the drag detectives top 4.

    • @Seiomt
      @Seiomt 8 місяців тому +1

      @@BROProductionCompany in my delusion delas in the top 4

  • @Ry_J_Guts
    @Ry_J_Guts 2 роки тому +132

    What happened to Thorgy during Diva’s Live was a travesty. Beside Trixie who brought her own guitar and was asked to use it during the show, every queen with props were given those by the production.

  • @arttea5311
    @arttea5311 2 роки тому +48

    I should say that... Trixie at the talent show is SOOOOOOO underrated. Pure talent

    • @princesstarah2
      @princesstarah2 Рік тому +3

      Her performance made me check out her music, which I love

  • @richiemorgan8601
    @richiemorgan8601 2 роки тому +63

    knowing that we could have had trixie and thorgy together for the bitchelor but didn't is my villain origin story

    • @Genderanarchy
      @Genderanarchy Рік тому +4

      I can even imagine Thorgy as the role Milk had and literally it would change from tragic to iconic.

  • @thatgirlconnor
    @thatgirlconnor 2 роки тому +320

    Season 3 is hard because
    -the weird writing that they’re trying to make you think Trixie was failing in the start (she wasn’t)
    -the Aja of it all
    -the whole note issues with Shangie
    -Bebe truly coming back and somewhat harming her reputation

    • @papyrusted
      @papyrusted 2 роки тому +4

      Explain your last point plz

    • @thatgirlconnor
      @thatgirlconnor 2 роки тому +57

      @@papyrusted in her original season Bebe was regel, fabulous and a fair but her whole interaction with Aja and on the Runway about the sewing was dismissive and disrespectful

    • @fushidrashad9268
      @fushidrashad9268 2 роки тому +12

      @@thatgirlconnor dismissive and disrespectful? I dont think so. She just did not mentioned Aja when the judges praised her. The judges did not ask who helped you sew the garment.

    • @thatgirlconnor
      @thatgirlconnor 2 роки тому +45

      @@fushidrashad9268 i mean sure but the implications was that she made the outfit. And when Aja came back and asked about the judging she was dismissive and essentially it already happened you have no right to be upset.

    • @chrissy3875
      @chrissy3875 2 роки тому +4

      @@fushidrashad9268 thats disrepect..

  • @rimoi1458
    @rimoi1458 2 роки тому +88

    I always love seeing Aja getting the justice she deserved on that season, I think you hit all the marks with her placements, and her being top 2 with Dela is SUCH a good storyline specially when they were somehow rivals.

  • @eldarisss1613
    @eldarisss1613 2 роки тому +28

    5:00 Latrice Royale also dropped her flag in the variety show but they didn’t air it. The face Manila does when Farrah falls is actually from the time Latrice dropped her flag.

  • @katamareckova4926
    @katamareckova4926 2 роки тому +151

    living for that Thorgy and Aja in this imaginary season

  • @danjlp9155
    @danjlp9155 2 роки тому +71

    Okay sending Trixie home on an episode she should've won, I AM OFFENDED

  • @sydneykalt4032
    @sydneykalt4032 2 роки тому +64

    this legit just got me sad again that we won't witness Thorgy in any of these challenges

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +283

    I wouldn’t be surprised if you eventually do every season because none of them except maybe season 9 are judged completely fairly

    • @DragDetective
      @DragDetective  2 роки тому +76

      that's the plan!!

    • @noahsmall9026
      @noahsmall9026 2 роки тому +48

      Season 9 wasn’t judged completely fairly but it’s understandable because it’s mostly up to personal opinion and everyone did well in most challenge

    • @highonsugar6273
      @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +27

      @@noahsmall9026 yeah I would’ve probably changed the top placements for the snatch game but thats only because so many people did good

    • @idkicantthinkofanything8317
      @idkicantthinkofanything8317 2 роки тому +12

      i would change the makeover placements, sasha should’ve won and peppermint should’ve been low

    • @wardzonneveld9570
      @wardzonneveld9570 2 роки тому +5

      So far, Canada season 2 has been judged completely fair too imo

  • @user-bb4vx6tg5l
    @user-bb4vx6tg5l 2 роки тому +94

    I only agree about Aja. I think you gave extra credit to Thorgy (not that she doesn't deserve it), but I think that you were kinda biased with her. Bebe keeping Thorgy over Trixie? I don't think, especially when Trixie did that good. I agree that Aja was mistreated.

    • @AlmightlySaintGeko
      @AlmightlySaintGeko 2 роки тому +17

      I think there’s a tendency to discredit Trixie a little more than is deserved because she’s done so well and stans do overhype her to an extent. A lot of DDs critiques of her are very valid and I agree with them, but then they seems reluctant to really praise her when she did do well. Like she did so well in the girl group challenge and had a win, idk if at that point in the competition Bebe would eliminate her from that challenge when she’s against someone with no wins and a low placement. I liked Thorgys verse but I don’t think it would have been enough to save her over Trixie that episode. And in general they tended to place Thorgy in the higher ‘neutral’ positions (when she was in a middle placement) and Trixie lower ones. But it’s all personal opinions and we’ll never know what really happened bc editing, I enjoyed seeing how it played out (and honestly as soon as the decision was made that Dela didn’t eliminate herself then she was going to win regardless 😂)

    • @raulfranco3541
      @raulfranco3541 2 роки тому +7

      I knowwwww, to me the video stopped making sense when Thorgy was kept over Trixie. Also, Thorgy doing better than Dela on both the girl group thing and the soup design challenge felt more like wishful thinking from a fan rather than based on her actual abilities.
      It's still pretty fun to think about how the season could've gone, but I think the Top 4 would probably be Bebe, Aja, Shangela and Dela, not Thorgy (if the producers weren't trying so hard to rob Aja, of course).

  • @onefatpiggy
    @onefatpiggy 2 роки тому +62

    Trixie's verse and look is soooo iconic. Beauty and intelligence in one combined. She should have been on top that episode

    • @q-tarcana7610
      @q-tarcana7610 Рік тому +7

      It also makes sense with her Barbie doll aesthetic, since Barbie is in every professional field know to humanity.

    • @olly_lmao
      @olly_lmao Рік тому +5

      riggamorris girl, it was riggamorris

  • @michaeldevincentis5052
    @michaeldevincentis5052 2 роки тому +66

    I feel like Ben still would have offered herself up for elimination so somewhere she would have told Bebe to cut her and Bebe probably would have taken her out instead of Trixie. Then everything would play out the same probably with Trixie and Thorgy being in the top in the acting challenge. Thorgy would probably win the lipsync against Trixie but regardless it's just natural at this point to send home the returning queen. Then we end up with a top 4 of Trixie, Thorgy, Bebe, Aja and if we just take the two with the best top record then it would be Aja and Thorgy in the top 2 with the winner being... I guess the one with more wins since they're both tied in this scenario of points per episode, which is Aja. That's my take on it at least.

    • @narahoung264
      @narahoung264 2 роки тому +16

      I disagree. Ben didn’t have bottom placement originally, and kept winning consecutively, While in this scenario, not only does Ben not get consecutive wins, but also has bottom placement. So, I dont think we would get the Ben Delachrist moment.

  • @jamesconybeare9604
    @jamesconybeare9604 2 роки тому +39

    had a rough day and cannot wait to watch this for 50 and relax

  • @jakegrear
    @jakegrear 2 роки тому +30

    the only thing I disagree with is that I don't think Bebe would send Trixie home over Thorgy especially with Trixie doing better in that challenge and having a win

  • @felipemoreiradasilva4719
    @felipemoreiradasilva4719 2 роки тому +49

    girl was really fighting for her life to save aja and thorgy in this...

  • @DereBear
    @DereBear 2 роки тому +8

    I will never get over Aja unsheathing a sword, that matched her outfit mind you, and then just throwing it off the stage. She really was so chaotic

  • @noahsmall9026
    @noahsmall9026 2 роки тому +74

    Hear me out, Trixie would be number 2 to Kennedy for the bitchelor. What held her back was milk and now she has thorgy, Dela even said like she felt like she took trixies win. With a partner that’s better at acting and better in a duo I think she’d for sure be above dela because she wouldn’t be getting talked over and annoyed at the stalker girl.

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +9

      Also from comments from Trixie and Katya, the actual bitchelor shot was quite longer and we got a fairly edited cut. They said that Kennedy's full performance was EVEN BETTER than what we got to see. So perhaps we got to see the best parts of Ben? Trixie was struggling to get any joke in because of Milk.

  • @MrBboy3213
    @MrBboy3213 2 роки тому +75

    Assuming that Thorgy would do great in literally every improv/acting challenge is giving her way too much credit considering she went home on a improv/acting challenge on season 8

  • @jpmedina8328
    @jpmedina8328 2 роки тому +39

    All Stars 4 is such an underrated season, its only bad in the last 2 eps

    • @DragDetective
      @DragDetective  2 роки тому +9

      very that!!

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 2 роки тому +5

      The last two episodes are dreadful, but the first 7 episodes are honestly pretty good.

    • @jpmedina8328
      @jpmedina8328 2 роки тому +3

      @@DragDetective you should keep the ranking system, it feels more smooth

    • @moonlightbae6143
      @moonlightbae6143 2 роки тому

      Ye it has one of the best casts ever

  • @AngryCandy89
    @AngryCandy89 2 роки тому +13

    The issue I have with the Divas challenge is that probably Thorgy knows more about Stevie Nicks than Todrick, but they spinned It into Thorgy being difficult.

  • @ohshedead
    @ohshedead 2 роки тому +92

    I do want throw a wrench in the whole “Bebe threw the lipsync” thing that everyone assumes when Dela eliminated herself.
    Had Bebe done what she did at regular bar, everyone would’ve loved it. It was an emotional song and Bebe taking her wig off just added to it. Not to mention that Bebe did the same thing on Season 1 which won her the lipsync. While I can’t guarantee Bebe didn’t throw the lipsync, I do think that Bebe taking her wig off wasn’t her giving up.

    • @MadameApeFace
      @MadameApeFace 2 роки тому +12

      Not to mention the fact that Ru has made plenty of LSFYL calls that don't always make sense with the edit. They didn't need Bebe to "throw" the lip sync to call it for Ben.

    • @kayvonnavi2294
      @kayvonnavi2294 2 роки тому +7

      you can add this in with the fact that bebe likely hasnt been keeping up with drag race since she won (ORNACIAAAAA) and dewigging yourself being a faux pas is mostly a drag race thing, so she genuinely thought it was a good move

  • @heymistercarter.
    @heymistercarter. 2 роки тому +22

    In terms of MYLK as Celine Dion, I can say this: Celine was one of the last concerts I saw before the pandemic started. And I know for a fact that Celine does not over-accentuate herself and her movements when she's performing, unlike what MYLK did. Even when she's hitting the big notes, she keeps her body more natural and smooth. The most I think she does is hold her arms out or something, but she doesn't dance around or go crazy on-stage. What MYLK was doing, it was more like Lady GaGa, who actually gives a big and crazy performance on stage. But with her, even when she's doing her slower or mid-tempo songs, she goes over-the-top in a way because that's how she presents herself on stage. She has the big voice, she has the big costumes and productions, so it makes sense for her. Celine isn't like that. While she has the poppier songs sometimes (That's The Way It Is being an example), her physical performance isn't as loud or over-the-top as someone like GaGa. So no, MYLK did not give an accurate Celine performance by ANY stretch.

    • @andreacorbo2401
      @andreacorbo2401 2 роки тому +2

      Have you really seen her on stage?
      Celine is known for hitting her chest, living her music and doing crazy faces and sounds. She also throws her arms out frenetically. She's kinda funny and crazy, I've seen her concerts many times.

    • @nikkomax9721
      @nikkomax9721 11 місяців тому

      Now I don’t trust either of u

  • @smartcam8095
    @smartcam8095 2 роки тому +111

    Personally I hate that “whoever’s not in the top is in the bottom” stuff so I would love if they never did that again. Also, PEANUT BUTTER?! It was FREAKT MONEY!!! 🤣

    • @ItsJustJakieG
      @ItsJustJakieG 2 роки тому +16

      They literally sound the same so we can’t really blame them

    • @herefortheshrimp1469
      @herefortheshrimp1469 2 роки тому +6

      I’m so glad I’m not the only one that feels that way. It’s a cheap and unfair way to squeeze drama into the last few episodes AND TRINITY SHOULDVE BEEN IN THE TOP 4!

    • @MononymousM
      @MononymousM 2 роки тому

      @@herefortheshrimp1469 Trinity?

  • @ait8551
    @ait8551 2 роки тому +55

    I would probably still give Aja the top 2 spot in Snatch game. Obviously its hard not knowing what Thorgy would do but basically every queen bar Dela who did good in the snatch game before did bad so maybe she would follow that tradition

    • @styles2535
      @styles2535 2 роки тому +4

      I mean Thorgy wouldn’t have much competition for a top spot on snatch game. All she’d have to do was be better than Shangela(who literally only played herself), the queens under Dela, Shangela and Aja bombed

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +1

      @@styles2535 Better than Aja you mean. Shangela was nothing special in the Snatch Game, she had one prepared joke that got laughs that she forced in the game and that was really it. Aja did a solid job and had a superb runway. Still, I do think Thorgy would do well at Snatch Game. Heck I think she did as well as Bob in S8 but then kimonogate happened so neither Thorgy or Derrick even had a chance.

    • @styles2535
      @styles2535 2 роки тому +3

      @@c.k.8585 yeah, Aja would be the only competition for a top 2 spot, I was talking more top 3(so a high placement)

    • @c.k.8585
      @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +2

      @@styles2535 Oh yeah, Thorgy would easily be better than Shangela. And really Shangela seems to be best with a script. She was bad at the improv challenge this season she won the improv challenge in her season with a performance she had probably thoroughly scripted, if not already performed and was bad at her original Snatch Game as well. Her best skill is scripted acting and performance.

  • @dylantd9189
    @dylantd9189 2 роки тому +21

    So basically the only challenge thorgy would do bad on this season is the one she went home on?

  • @TroyZz16
    @TroyZz16 2 роки тому +4

    the format of this video, the ranking and basing placements and everything, is EVERYTHING. please continue using this

  • @fullmoonrazu
    @fullmoonrazu 2 роки тому +17

    Shocked that the riggery of CDR isn’t out yet

    • @peytonjames
      @peytonjames 2 роки тому

      same
      its honestly one of my favorite seasons and i really wanna see that video lol

  • @bp2159
    @bp2159 2 роки тому +12

    I love how biased these without riggery videos are hahahah

  • @sorchabelton8249
    @sorchabelton8249 2 роки тому +14

    Aja said she would have just made out with Ben during the kissed a girl lipsync, she was freaked the two missed out on what could have been a reaaly iconic moment

  • @Ja_00_25
    @Ja_00_25 2 роки тому +19

    Omg! Just realized Shangela is the comeback queen again haha, she’s back back back back again

  • @amer.1978
    @amer.1978 2 роки тому +14

    It’s so obvious you don’t favor shangela or dela when you place them lower or bottom for challenges they actually did over Thorgy in a make believe scenario. I almost stopped watching when I reached the Soup Can/Studio 54 episode, but continued till the end just to see the outcome. Yes, I agree that Dela would have won if she didn’t self eliminate herself. And don’t get me wrong, I love Thorgy and her career, but I believe that putting her in top in almost every challenge in a make believe scenario was weird. But was interesting to watch

    • @nyomifarentino7075
      @nyomifarentino7075 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly !!! Top two most certainly would have been Dela & Shangela like it was basically most of the season 😭

    • @senpaisally69
      @senpaisally69 2 роки тому

      Yeah I agree. I think even for snatch game they would of eliminated Trixie and not Kennedy. I think they both were playing a fair game and Thorgy is real

    • @senpaisally69
      @senpaisally69 2 роки тому

      For the soup can episode, I think Thorgy would of been in the bottom

  • @isaacmahoney5947
    @isaacmahoney5947 2 роки тому +66

    Finally someone who agrees that shangela did not 'kill' as3. Everybody talks about how shangela was robbes and she dominated the season, but the thing is, she basically performed at a solid 3/5 for the entire season and the girls around her bombed. The 9bly challenge she did really well in was the one set up for her to win and the talent show. Shangela should of done great in challenges such as the bitchellor, girl group, snatch game and the final acting challenge but instead just came off as okay in all of them, a competent performance while others floundered.

  • @cloudymay5600
    @cloudymay5600 Рік тому +5

    Dela was hands down the best winner of the Kitty girls challenge. Of all of them she had the clearest character, a good verse and great look to pair it with.

  • @yassqueenslay8730
    @yassqueenslay8730 Рік тому +4

    i love the drag detective, but I find it so funny that his unrigging of any season is just rigging it for his favorite queens😭😭😭😭

  • @katrad1936
    @katrad1936 2 роки тому +5

    I honestly think Trixie was a pretty solid winner but the production had not set her up to win in the beginning so she was severely unscored at time making her track record look much worse than it should be

  • @brycepulkinen4601
    @brycepulkinen4601 2 роки тому +4

    Wow...you really took some liberties with how well Thorgy was gonna do...

  • @coreygustavis5805
    @coreygustavis5805 2 роки тому +5

    The fact that you also robbed Shangela is the Rigga Morris of riggory I never knew could exist.

  • @orange742
    @orange742 2 роки тому +49

    Bebe's Talent Show is severely underrated. Personally the 3rd best of the week.
    Edit: AND Chi Chi's Patti LaBelle. Personally the 2nd best of the week.

    • @cathyurine2894
      @cathyurine2894 2 роки тому

      Is there any black queens left to butter up?

    • @hellothere4629
      @hellothere4629 2 роки тому +2

      @@cathyurine2894 Yes Eureka + Trinity The Tuck 😍

    • @hellothere4629
      @hellothere4629 2 роки тому

      @@cathyurine2894 + Bebe was the 3rd best of the week...

    • @orange742
      @orange742 2 роки тому +6

      @@cathyurine2894 Yikes.

    • @cathyurine2894
      @cathyurine2894 2 роки тому

      @@hellothere4629 bebe's talent show was 3rd of the week??? lmao except Aja, dela, thorgy and shangela bebe was winner of that ep exactly XD

  • @MisterPoro
    @MisterPoro 2 роки тому +22

    Hmm. I agree with most of this but I think you favor Aja a tad in this. Not in the way you place her in the challenges but in the way you talk about her. You said Aja’s look she made in the Warhol Ball was one of the best looks made in a design challenge. Choices.

    • @PureHoneyBoo
      @PureHoneyBoo 2 роки тому +3

      Trixie did so much better

    • @lennox.lettuce8615
      @lennox.lettuce8615 2 роки тому +2

      That's your opinion and it's his video.

    • @senpaisally69
      @senpaisally69 2 роки тому +2

      I agree! I think for the soup can Trixie and Bebe should of been top 2 while Thorgy/ Shangela bottom

  • @HectorMora_Sullivan
    @HectorMora_Sullivan 2 роки тому +8

    46:12 I think the song was Freaky Money, not Peanut Butter (that was AS4) but great video as always :)

  • @denise_the_economist
    @denise_the_economist 2 роки тому +1

    I love how chill your voice is, definitely could listen to you narrate drag race episodes all day.

  • @isaiahgarcia2680
    @isaiahgarcia2680 2 роки тому +9

    Honestly, I agree. Looking back, Shangela did meh in the challenges. I didn't think she was that great and if it wasn't for the heavy favoritism of her throughout the season then I believe this would be the result

  • @JuanMardson
    @JuanMardson 2 роки тому +1

    Seeing that the video was 49:37 long brought me joy. As always, thank you for the dissection, Detective

  • @AJH0118
    @AJH0118 2 роки тому +7

    Shangela coming back AGAIN is just so on brand 🤣

  • @raisjavi9285
    @raisjavi9285 2 роки тому +10

    I live for Aja and Thorgy as part of the top 4. Ignoring literaly everything, my ideal top 4 would have been Aja, Thorgy, Dela and Shangela, just based on personal preference.

  • @mattjones9843
    @mattjones9843 2 роки тому +20

    BeBe was actually my least favorite out of the kitty girls challenge. She didn’t really write a verse (when half of the verse is utter nonsense I call it a cop out) and her lip sync was off.
    Also the challenge didn’t ask queens to brand themselves to their drag personas. It was to create a Spice Girls style character. So to criticize Trixie for IQ Kitty not being “in the Trixie brand” I think is kind of a silly and unfair critique. Tbh out of the queens only really Trixie, Ben, Aja, Thorgy and sure BeBe actually accomplished what was asked of them in that regard.

  • @boogyuls
    @boogyuls 2 роки тому +4

    Aja said pretty recently that her two faves to win AS3 were herself and Dela so even if she didn't like her she'd definitely have kept her

  • @snintendosnaleb9874
    @snintendosnaleb9874 2 роки тому +2

    I disagree with 3 things. Trixie should have been in the top for the kitty girl group challenge. It’s not about branding yourself it’s about creating a character. She did that so well. I think while I do enjoy Aja they were given a little bit too much high treatment/praise. And I also think Ben would have still gone home the episode they did. I think she would have asked to go home because she wanted to be done or something like that.

  • @adolfoarias6857
    @adolfoarias6857 2 роки тому +6

    Truth be told, Milk almost fell because her heel got stuck in the tambourine when she was dancing in the back of Thorgy's performance so both Kennedy and her should have been in the bottom. I completely agreed with the video in that part.

  • @riceaaroni
    @riceaaroni 2 роки тому +4

    Season 3 had so many design challenges Shangela really said "Enough." with that Disco Ball.

  • @danielsimmich1858
    @danielsimmich1858 2 роки тому +7

    To me the best talent show performances are the ones where queens show something you normally wouldn’t see on Drag Race. Performances like Thorgy, Gia, Latrice etc stand out for me because of that. Seeing a queen just sing or dance or do comedy just doesn’t interest me as much because you see that on Drag Race normally

  • @Unintelligentful
    @Unintelligentful 2 роки тому +8

    Literally I want from a future all stars, is Thorgy getting the credit she deserves and being ATLEAST top 4.

  • @King.of.ur_dreams
    @King.of.ur_dreams 2 роки тому +6

    I know you really like her (same as Jan on both seasons) and that's why you weren't able to recognize their Meh performance on the season, but I think Milk should've been in the bottom every episode she was on

  • @adrian_hook
    @adrian_hook 2 роки тому +26

    AS3 is one of my all time least favorite seasons. I thought maybe I was just disappointed at the time because it was such a downgrade from AS2, but I rewatched all the AS seasons recently and it only reinforced my dislike for the season. There was just a lot of uncomfortable moments in the werk room plus Thorgy and Aja's eliminations were super frustrating. Not to mention the horrible twist and the fact that Trixie won without actually having a win the whole season. "Aw Jesus, gross" pretty much sums up the whole thing for me.

    • @wastingsun
      @wastingsun 2 роки тому +5

      I feel like they were able to justify Trixie winning without a lip sync win since just recently Sasha Velour had won without any form of main wins at all. Trixie had done pretty good throughout the season and it was evident a few times she was being held back by certain things. (Milk ruining the Bitchelor, Shangela's fat suit "comedy")

  • @lorenzidane15
    @lorenzidane15 2 роки тому +6

    Trixie deserved to be in the top3/4 for the first episodes, you ranked her very low idk why

  • @Lovefault
    @Lovefault 2 роки тому +13

    Kennedy wouldve def sent Aja home, I wouldn’t want her to but Kennedy would’ve never sent home Chichi, as we saw with Roxxy emotions play a big role and I doubt she’d take into account Aja’s slayage thus far since she did mediocre in the challenge

  • @moonlightbae6143
    @moonlightbae6143 2 роки тому +2

    No shangela was better than Aja in Snatch game. Aja just responded to the questions with famous Crystal Labeja jokes. Shangela was doing more improvisation by making jokes on the spot and volleyballing with Rub

  • @hebg1989
    @hebg1989 2 роки тому +27

    This is rigged for AJA & THORGY to be in the top 4 is worse than the actual reality

  • @adamtravis9380
    @adamtravis9380 2 роки тому +2

    Your thorgy/Aja preference is showing!

  • @racheldolezol7390
    @racheldolezol7390 2 роки тому +2

    This video has been haunting me all night.! I couldn't sleep... Thinking about the way you dragged Thorgy to the finale girl 😂😂😂

  • @fionadoyle867
    @fionadoyle867 2 роки тому +1

    You always put so much incredible thought into your videos, I always come RUNNING when you post!! Thank you for your amazing content

  • @Kitsune_F
    @Kitsune_F 2 роки тому +2

    Aja gets way to less credit for improving so much so quickly

  • @LeDameMarciana
    @LeDameMarciana 2 роки тому +17

    i do think this was spot on, much as i would still have liked to see Trixie make it to top 4. I was trying to predict your eliminations just based on your bottom 2/3 and got it right every single time. I think if all of this had happened, AS3 would be SOLIDLY better than AS4.
    also i love how you were basically like "fuck the voting, that was such unnecessary drama" and just glossed over not even having the voting in this lmaaao

  • @piro28
    @piro28 2 роки тому +2

    Im sorry, Aja…well, ok…. but Thorgy going that far out of your literal imagination? No.

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +7

    Waiting for uk season 3 to end so I can watch your video on it

    • @DragDetective
      @DragDetective  2 роки тому +6

      waiting for uk3 to end period 😩

    • @highonsugar6273
      @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +1

      @@DragDetective so true, just crown Ella already

    • @hansbauer5997
      @hansbauer5997 2 роки тому +2

      @@highonsugar6273 i want ella to win so badly, but since kitty now has a win i think she has it in the bag due to the whole "show as prize" thing. The only queen that could carry a show on their own would be kitty (at least in the BBCs eyes)

    • @highonsugar6273
      @highonsugar6273 2 роки тому +1

      @@hansbauer5997 Kitty didn’t really deserve that win though tbh Krystal did, like in less Kitty does really good in the next episode I don’t see her winning

  • @lavendulan_
    @lavendulan_ 2 роки тому +9

    I really wanted to see Thorgy slaying more the season!

  • @RonnieStewartJr
    @RonnieStewartJr 10 місяців тому +1

    I will never understand how Kennedy wasn’t able to learn the words “charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent”

  • @saul_silva
    @saul_silva 2 роки тому +3

    Nah, bendela won the kitty girls challenge, this uis more of your opinion than an actual real study of the season

  • @pielmao1963
    @pielmao1963 2 роки тому +3

    Really, girl? Bebe's look was good for you? I know Aja made it but please.

  • @hellaSwankkyToo
    @hellaSwankkyToo 2 роки тому +4

    wait. Milk not being #10 for the All-Star Variety show is _really_ telling. it screams bias. + i’m not being shady. just making a point, i guess? i mean to put the…paper doll…act(?) (again, not being shady, don’t know what to call it) above actual performances//displays of talent (singing, dancing, quintessential lip-syncing)?! really? seriously?
    i’m supposed to believe + accept that Milk’s velcro-ripping//paper doll thing is not only talent, but more talent//better than actual singing, dancing, gymnastics?! b|c Chi Chi’s wig was flat + her dance shoes were ugly?? i-huh??
    even worse, audience reactions//engagement should not be a factor _at all_ since we have absolutely no idea how the audience actually responded to each performer. we only know what the editors//producers want us to see. we already know since they mix up the footage of the audience to suit their narrative. it could have been silent in the studio, w| not a single audience member blinking or breathing during Milk’s time on stage.
    but….you know that. your channel is about the manipulation, the riggory, exposing the edit. so…why mention audience response as a factor to justify Milk’s placement? this video is supposed to be about what it would’ve been like w|o or despite the editing + the video starts by….ignoring that//using it to justify a wild decision//placement.
    i’m confused, i am. actually…no i’m not. Milk is the definition of privilege. walking, talking, breathing, velcro-ripping privilege. the problem is, it’s so insidious it shows up + is subconsciously (giving the benefit of the doubt here) upheld//perpetuated even in instances designed to call it out.
    wild. + disappointing. :0/
    RIPower, Chi Chi! you deserve better.🖤✊🏾

  • @iGuardians
    @iGuardians 2 роки тому +2

    Trixie at 7 is buffoonery honestly

  • @daniel_thestarx
    @daniel_thestarx 2 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for this video since AS3. Thank you doing this. ❤️💜

  • @Ssantguz
    @Ssantguz 2 роки тому +3

    Just say you hate Trixie you didn't have to make a 50 min video

  • @cohen5562
    @cohen5562 2 роки тому +3

    the fact you put kennedy 6th in the talent show is all i need to know about this video is gonna go✋🏼🙄

  • @psarizona
    @psarizona 2 роки тому +2

    I think you have Thievy going further than I would, mainly because Thorgy is a master at overthinking. I see her potentially going into analysis paralysis on the Warhol Ball.

  • @xoxoxoxo4483
    @xoxoxoxo4483 Рік тому +1

    I just Googled Dela’s birthday to discover she is a Libran, which is totally what I guessed. She’s pleasant (even congenial 😉), calculating, extremely talented, intelligent, very concerned about fairness, and hates confrontation. Interestingly, she has the same birthday as Chi Chi, who contrarily to Dela, is always on the bottom.

  • @amethystlove6164
    @amethystlove6164 2 роки тому +1

    this was such a good video i would’ve loved to see the season play out like this. i feel like dela would’ve asked the top two to eliminate her in the girl group challenge though, it would make sense with her whole story line as it’s the main reason she chose to do that character in the first place

  • @BiologyIsHot
    @BiologyIsHot 2 роки тому +2

    I was with you until the Dela sending Shangela home bit. I see her sending herself home again at that point.

  • @c.k.8585
    @c.k.8585 2 роки тому +3

    I honestly thought Shangela was horrible at the Bitchelor. Chichi at least got a laugh out of me. Also on Kennedy, I think Trixie and Katya have said that the full performance was even better than what we saw and a lot was cut. I would have had Bebe keep Trixie over Thorgy. The longer Thorgy stayed in that workroom, the less Bebe would like her:) If you kept Trixie there, then it would be Dela and Trixie top two on the next challenge, Dela would cut Shangela and then win the season. I think though that you should have tried to keep the jury twist.

  • @hannahjorasmussen1922
    @hannahjorasmussen1922 2 роки тому +4

    I’m sorry, but Aja, yes could’ve made it longer, but I think was given a few too many wins in this video. Wins that Trixie definitely deserved. I think Trixie was amazing in almost all of the challenges (obviously not snatch game) and during the actual season I think she earned more wins than she was given credit for.

  • @ltck0004
    @ltck0004 2 роки тому +3

    0:25
    'this season didnt have a ton of rigging'
    almost a fifty minute long video xx

  • @3v3rything3
    @3v3rything3 2 роки тому

    Thank you! Perfect thing to listen to as I finish my workday

  • @moonstoneuniverse8516
    @moonstoneuniverse8516 2 роки тому +2

    I would have never put Bebe in the top for Jungle kitty it’s just same old same old I would have put Trixie in the top the only reason she wasn’t in the top original was because of Addams lambert screaming ego.

  • @joshuar7722
    @joshuar7722 2 роки тому +2

    You had me onboard till the girl group challenge then lost me 🤣 your choices were… choices.

  • @oliversmithlawrence
    @oliversmithlawrence 2 роки тому +17

    just started but if Aja doesn't win I'm suing you, detective