This video is absolute gold. You're hitting such a ridiculously tiny niche it probably doesn't justify the awesome production value, but for those of us who happen to be in that niche... we salute you.
As the creator of Boards of Deluge I can only confirm - manufacturers are very slowly getting closer to what Deluge had to offer back in 2018. Thanks for this video. Subbed!
I have really loved your patches. I have Vols 1-4. Also for other devices. I haven't done alot of deluging in the past year or two, but really looking to get back into it with the CE firmware.
@@Synth-PatchesCom Bro, you’re a legend. I’ve purchased all of the Boards of Deluge. I didn’t even think the deluge synth sounded good until I heard your packs.
I think Synthstrom missed a great opportunity: buy/license your sounds and ship them with the Deluge. I sold mine because I'm not a sound design guy and didn't want to spend time in building sounds or collecting samples.
I have *all* your patches and love them dearly. You are absolutely a legend and you and the Community Firmware are the best thing to happen to the Deluge. Having said that, there definitely is a "Deluge sound" that it's a little hard to break out of without lots of multisampling. The TE synths -- from the OPZ to the OP1 to the OPXY -- I've just found to be much more straightforwardly usable.
M8 MK2 is more overpriced if you look at hardware/cost metric only. Both excel in programming though...And that is why Behringer does not invent but just steal and copy
At first I thought this was just another OP-XY fan-vid. Found out that you are just a normal, ever happy Deluge-user. I just adore mine. The best music gear I’ve ever bought. Peered with the Linnstrument it’s a beast of portable bring-on-the-work-trip beasts! ❤
Thanks for making this! Felt like everyone was saying XY is too expensive, but werent really breaking it down quite like this. EDIT: LOL Loved the Spoof at the end. 10/10
Haha! Unexpectable content! I was GASing about XY that's why I've opened this video. But thanks, dude! I was able to overcame that GAS, go back to my Deluge, play it, and write some new features for it (my new Piano keyboard layout for Deluge has just been approved to the Community FW). And I am completely happy.
True story I owned the OG op1 when it cost £600 to buy but ended up selling it when I saw the deluge at superbooth when they added the arranger mode and that was it the deluge was mine. The community firmware is absolutely astounding with features added and more importantly issues solved very quickly. My OG deluge has had it's oled to further future proof it. Great video!
Amazing vid, thanks for comparing them. The OP-XY will never be on my radar but the deluge has been. I then bought a polyend play and love it but, this vid has reinvigorated my interest in the deluge. Stay awesome and keep making content like this, fantastic.
One may think that a certain niche is already crowded, that there is nothing new to say or make, and then this guy appears with such refreshing and fun content.
In short- if something can bring joy to your life and it doesn’t hurt anyone- and you can afford it- get it. Op-z user here- I can’t afford the price of OPXY- so I went different route- got myself Polyend Tracker. Boy my assumptions about this device were sooo wrong. It’s super easy to use, logical and intuitive. If You have GAS - and OPXY is out of your price range- maybe try Trackers? Best wishes ❤
This is so well presented and such good content. I am pretty obsessed with op xy but the deluge seems to be a good addition lol. Op xy is a lot more portable, so it will still be a better travel companion. But I love the large pad grid on the deluge to make a the song a lot more visible. Can’t wait to try it. Thanks for creating this awesome and very entertaining video. Love your sense of humor.
What an excellent advert for the Deluge - I’ve been using the XY for a week now and you’re on the money with regards to the portability factor; there’s nothing else that can compete with it except for….the op-1 field! That said, the Deluge is my all time favourite groovebox and I’d certainly recommend it over the XY - It’s a jack of all trades. You’re right about sequencing sheet music: I’ve done this on the Deluge and it performed brilliantly.
@@LFOVoyagerExcellent but not for everybody - I think it’ll be better for a lot of people than the op-1 field: sequencing allows you to go back and tweak endlessly whereas recording to audio doesn’t. It also plays very well with external gear and thanks to the audio buffer you can affect external synths with all the glitchy effects. Resampling is very easy too. I think people look at it and think because it’s small it shouldn’t cost so much, but miniaturising technology is expensive, and this thing is so miniature.
Thanks for confirming my personal bias. I love my deluge. it is the absolute best musical investment i've made. Always deluge. Only deluge. Your video was as insightful as it was HILARIOUS! You have a new subscriber.
@@ItsMrMcFly hey, I was wondering if any diecast fans would find me here. I plan on showing some of the music I’ve made for the 3dbotmaker channel on here in the future.
Love this vid. Great job on showing Deluge's quick workflow, this is exactly why i like it so much. Deluge was actually the 1st thing that came to my mind when I saw the op-xy. I have to op-z, i love it, but there are not 2300$ worth of upgrades. If TE would make the op-z synth engine open, i could play with it endlessly....just like on the Deluge.
These are my EXACT thoughts every time TE comes out with a product! I have to slap myself and remember that my OP-1 sat around and did nothing for the last couple years while I recorded an album with the Deluge. Great vid
Interesting take! As someone that just makes music for a fun hobby, I just sold my Deluge to help fund my XY. It was super powerful but the workflow is just really bad to me, I shouldn’t need a notebook of shortcuts to use the thing. I’ve had more fun in 2 days on the XY than the 2 years I had the Deluge. I also have an M8 MK1 that I love and is way more powerful, but it’s kind of like working in excel. There’s just nothing else portable that’s quite so immediate and fun as the XY in my personal opinion. It sure was expensive though!
Deluge ❤ A really big plus for me with the deluge is how close it is to Ableton live conceptually. It’s so easy to translate daw knowledge to the Deluge. The way notes are showed on the big pad is just so sweet! Long story short, I love my deluge so so much.
Yes, the way the pads are used makes sequencing notes very intuitive. I especially like seeing all the drum triggers at once, instead of having to select the parts individually.
The Deluge sequencer for drums is the best I’ve ever seen. Not only swappable pieces in the kits, but infinite pieces and infinite length, plus zoom in for notes between the 1/16ths AND triplet mode. If they narrowed down the functionality of Deluge to just the sequencer and drum kits in a smaller format with punch in fx and better effects in general, I would have gotten it over XY.
Dude you are on another level. You trolled me and I was pleasantly surprised. Well done! This is a rare feat in any medium in any time period. Liked (loved) and subscribed. KPow! Knockout. Now I'm going to jump down into the Deluge rabbit hole on UA-cam for the next few hours. Thanks! I guess. ;)
I love the comparison. And yes. The Deluge is the only thing coming to mind. M8 is very close. But you forgot to factor in playability. Like playing chords and melodies. Also Deluge s workflow is a bit cryptic. Especially after the new awesome community firmware. On the other hand the XY has a better sequencer. Step components are awesome.
This was a really great video, I’m impressed! Very fair to narrow down the reasonable comparisons. I owned Deluge and had a blast, but sold it after a year. There were some things that I couldn’t get over. As you pointed out, workflow is huge, and Deluge felt tedious to me personally. I never felt like I could PERFORM with it, merely compose and press play, which I didn’t feel like I needed a $1,000 (at the time) device for. It also lacked features that my particular musical direction requires, and it lacked fx sends via hardware. I considered buying another Deluge, but the hardware limitations stopped me. I do appreciate the new screen and the open source aspect, though. XY came out and the more I dug into its features, the more it became clear that this was the groovebox I had been waiting for. Arrangeable, performable, portable, and very efficient, inspiring and creative workflow. There are still some software updates I can hope for it, but it truly is the most suitable device for my particular musical style (with sound design done externally and sampled in.) Again, great work on this video!
Every device has a purpose for someone. And Deluge is certainly feature rich. I’m glad it works for you! I really would buy a mkll if they streamlined the workflow and implemented some hardware features.
OP-XY is the only game in town for the sequencer component tricks and the performance effect tricks. OP-1 is the only game in town for the analog tape simulation. Nobody else has these things, not sure why.
Good video and good points. Deluge is a great device and being open source makes it very unique. The elephant in the room is the Sp404mk2. They just added a synth engine which makes it part of this category too. And it’s $900 less than the Deluge.
Nice video! I own a Deluge and have used it almost daily since 1,5 years. There is one feature on the OP XY that i would love on the Deluge: The 'brain'. I am no trained pianist, i cannot simply transpose a melody just like that. But then again: The Deluge is open source and a transpose-feature may potentially eventually come to the Deluge!
Great video and an unexpected turn. The Deluge actually shows how much of a scam the synth industry seems to be lately 😄, at least that's how I feel. Especially when looking at hardware synths that were analog 20 years ago but are now being re-released as digital versions with the same polyphony count as the analog ones, it's something I still don't understand to this day. My mobile phone can handle more polyphony and almost an entire DAW. Then, looking at the Elektron Digitakt / Syntakt... no polyphony at all. Only two effects for the master, at least for the Syntakt. They already got us to a point that we are celebrating an addition like a chorus to the digitakt 2. It feels pretty ridiculous. Next would be Ableton move .... 4 tracks... no more to say 😄.
@LFOVoyager isn't it also a sign of insanity!? Speaking of which you've convinced me to take time plunge on an OP-XY too so I can actually compare the workflows and how much I get out of them, if anything, as someone who prefers midi recorders and tape to programming sequencers...great to have 30/60 day returns on everything these days, you can actually make educated purchases and comparisons
I owned the original Deluge and the Deluge OLED. It was amazing, but the learning curve was just too steep for me as a casual user. I have an OP-1 Field and the interface, to me, is just easier to navigate. Hoping the OP-XY is similar, because I plan on getting one soon.
The OP-Z is pretty complicated, so I expect more or less the same from the XY. That said, the OP-Z is arguably the most creative and unique sequencer around. An expanded version of it in the XY with better synth engines will be well worth the investment of time required to master it. The XY will also unlock some cool workflows in the Field and vice versa. I’m saving up for an XY to use with my Field and Ableton Move (amazing device for the cost).
Honstely I got one and I have read half of the Manual and starting to get confortable with the device, but the fun to use it is soooo big it’s always a pleasure to go on it, personally composition on the xy is very very fluid and fast
I own all 3 (Deluge, OP-XY, OP-1F) and I’ve gotta say op-xy is super fun, but so many areas of quick workflow (copy a scene) are sorely missed. For me op-xy is a more refined version with workflows similar to both deluge and m8, although doing neither quite as efficiently, far more expensive, but a fun a different set of features. I’ve been on a quest to find something I like more than the deluge, but always and be up back there!
The battery life is way better on the OP-XY, 16 hours (vs 6 for deluge, which is still pretty good). Perhaps the energy efficiency is due to reasonable limitations. It is also a much smaller device, and this adds to costs. It is actually 9 times 4 bars (nine patterns per track), so way deeper than you said. The punch in effects and the step components can be quite helpful, can be recorded on the step sequencer, and are fun to play live. Super entertaining video. Good job. The deluge looks sick.
It's worth it if you can afford it and it inspires you. I've gotten more use out of it in two weeks for my purposes than any single piece of gear I've used in the last year of making a record. It's a Swiss Army knife, sounds great, and is portable and inspiring.
Deluge was actually among top choices when I was searching for a device which would solve Yamaha Seqtrak's shortcomings (mainly count of tracks and crappy piano roll). But then I found MPC and fell in love with it - just added Arturia Miinlab 3 to have a decent MIDI controller. I initially loved the portability idea, but then I figured that whenever I can squeeze some time to make music, I always have a desk and power outlet nearby anyway. And MPC has fantastic, easy to use piano roll, which I use most of the time. So in my case MPC it is. But I really hold a lot of respect towards Deluge, so maybe one day...
The MPC is a complete studio. Super powerful. I had the live 2. The workflow didn’t work out for how I like to make music, but it could pretty much do everything with great built in sounds.
I think it comes down to whether the particular abilities AND limitations of any device suit your approach to music. So, if money is no object and the OPXY fits your workflow - that's awesome. For everyone else, they can get way more features for way less money with the Deluge.
I have both: Deluge for over two years and OP XY for about a week. While Deluge is a great idea, its execution is severely flawed. I won't go into details, but it just doesn't sound good and is very easy to overload. (Yes, that included third-party patches; I've been programming synths for over 30 years.) While not perfect, XY sounds good out of the box, and the workflow is much cleaner. I use Deluge as a portable sequencer for external gear (Hapax in the studio). OP XY's form factor and battery are an excellent benefit for me. Slick design is a bonus :) Having said that, I'll be keeping both.
It's true that the Deluge CPU can sometimes get overloaded and drop voices, especially when you're throwing a lot of FX on your tracks. But it's a 2-second solve, just resample those FX-heavy clips into an audio clip and you've fixed it Like any groovebox there are limitations, there are also workarounds for a lot of them. And for fans of the Deluge, the few limitations that remain are often vectors for creativity and resourcefuness that improve the quality of the musical output. I think it comes down to whether the particular abilities AND limitations of any device suit your approach to music. So, if money is no object and the OPXY fits your workflow - that's awesome. For everyone else, they can get more features for less money with the Deluge.
The battery is also easily replaceable when it eventually stops holding a charge. I’m still on the original battery, but I’ve removed the side panel and you have easy access to swap it out.
@@wren23_bass-synths Plus, people often seem to miss this - Deluge has a piano roll sequencer. A piano roll sequencer. That you use with multiple fingers, not a mouse. I cannot stress enough how big of a deal this is. Entering notes and chords visually like this is a complete gamechanger. No matter how cool the OP-XY or anything else is, you’d still be creating/editing sequences using your memory, not your eyes.
beautifully done, man, bravo! I was not expecting what this video became and the comedic instinct was perfect. Much respect for playing it straight. I can afford the op-xy but am in no way compelled, neither for the op-1. sketch pads began the pro-toy pivot of music gear into mass market miniaturization. A good idea that in hindsight has mostly just preyed on gas. But i guess it's right there in the brand name. TE peaked with pocket operators. Please, someone, leak their sales figures!
@@LFOVoyager They are fun but yes, that's about it and honestly what most people these days are actually after. Which is cool, no foul in having synth collections or music hobbies. It's the endless restrictions on functionality and iterations on the same thing...watching people buy into the hype of music toys that gets annoying. Meanwhile very little music of interest is being made. Having learned my final lesson from buying the Syntakt I now see Hainbach videos proclaiming 'inspiration box' and it gives desperate marketing ploy for a chaotic uncontrollable synth. Soma is the only company making anything beautiful but even they fall prey to aleatoric engineering.
I enjoyed the video. I came here for the Deluge. Never had any of the machines you mention here, however I would say that - sizewise - the MPC is comparable to the Deluge.
lol this is like an ad for the Deluge, but dirtywave M8 + a cheap midi keyboard is the GOAATTTTT. Btw this is true and i am not biased, i am a youtube comment so you can trust me.
You had a perfect start with category and went completely “delusional” 😂 betraying your own point. Definitely not in the same category, OP-XY is way smaller (borderline what can be considered portable) and screen makes a big difference, incl synth engine interaction and perception. If you relax the rules you better compare Deluge to OP-Z, no screen, no velocity, and you can buy a whole bunch at price of Deluge … plus throw a punch to a peasant or how those ep-ko-ii-mthfcr they called LOL 🎉 Anyways, they all amazing devices! And your presentation fits right in into category of inspiring, entertaining, and too cool! ❤
Thanks for the comment. I bought the deluge to replace the original OP-1, so I’m familiar with the sizes and workflow. For me, someone looking for a device that I can pick up, go to a coffee shop, make full complete songs on with audio, midi, built in synth engines and tactile controls, they’re both in that category despite their differences.
@@LFOVoyager Just pulling your leg 😜It's a great trade-off between full size Maschine+/Push3 and M8/OP-Z size of a device! I never got to Deluge myself because trying to get smthg from a store with ability to return in 30-45 days because I know the guy I'm buying it for is too picky, unreasonable, and unpredicted what he'll like lol
If I remember correctly, I think I got an email a few months ago that the deluge was going to be available from certain retailers. When I got mine you had to order it direct.
How do you figure? I have both and love them both but it’s apples to grapes. That’s two machines instead of one. Both are bigger. They are heavier. About 400 euros more expensive. No battery. No polyphony unless you are willing to sacrifice multiple tracks. No synthesis on either machine (aside from single cycle waveforms), no punch in effects. Digitakt doesn’t even have proper slicing. Octatrack has many effects though only 2 per track (although they are sends which I appreciate).
@@ryanhursh6322 the octatrack and digitakt are 400e more expensive? where? The octatrack is a bit more difficult to move but the digi, c'mon! And for the rest i think you need to take some courses. i own the OT and man! What you can do with is crazy. Please, spend some time on the elektron forum if you really want to get deep. Did you try to explore the power a samples chain. Only 2 effects block but you have 16 crossfaders scenes. Do you realise how many effects you can do? Time 4 because of 4 parts. 3 LFO per tracks, i repeat 3 LFO per tracks. You can sample and play your sample with no lag. For a 12 years old sample, The OT is the KING. Do u realise we compare it with a brand new OPXY and it still the boss (at least for me). RESPECT If you have an OT why do you own a digitakt??
The Deluge is a really cool product, and I'd probably also rather have it than the XY. I'd put not only the Deluge but also the M8, Tracker+ and Tracker Mini above the XY too. I own all of them, and both the M8 and the Polyend devices have a much richer sequencer than the XY. I do think that the XY has the better sounding synths, but all of the other devices have better samplers. I'd say give me the better sampler and sequencer any day. And there's the price of course. And I didn't even mention the Akai lineup.
never been a huge fan of grid style devices like the deluge, its amazing what it can do but also it seems to sacrifice a bit on sound quality to push so much out. Perfect device for someone obsessed with features lists though 😄...I kid though it is an amazing device... I wish it was for me.
immediate sub just for the intro. I'm a self avowed TE hater (early OG-1 adopter), Deluge, and M8 user. While I will certainly never give TE a cent of my money bc of their absolute and unbridled hubris as well as their artificial scarcity schemes over the years, to each their own. (second hand market however 😬) Use what you want, spend your money how you like, do no harm. Just don't buy Behringer clones of devices that are already on the market. Also don't pay scalper prices for the M8. We got your backs when you decide to come wield the true DAWless DAW.
After watching the whole thing I have to chime in. It’s main strength is the workflow. Everything is very well laid via dedicated buttons and pages. I have never came up with great ideas so fast as with this one. Yes, it’s expensive af, but it’s a great device. I know because I owned almost every groovebox since the first one more than two decades ago.
Workflow is probably the most subjective aspect, and it really comes down to what works best for your style of making music. I liked the workflow of the OP-1 for the most part, and I could see myself enjoying the XY workflow as well.
@@LFOVoyager I have both and I think the OP-1 workflow is original and unique, but the OP-XY is just brilliant. It really is. That said I agree it's too expensive at first sight and the limitations (20 sec, really?) are ridiculous for that reason. In the end, it only boils down to one question. Are you willing to spend that amount of money on this? I really do, but I'm very fortunate to have a big budget.
For the price of the OP Balenciaga Edition, you could buy a Synthstrom Deluge, 2-Teenage Engineering EP133 K.O.2s, and a Roland Aira P-6 sampler. Thanks man!
I didn’t think it was 64 steps for an entire song, that would be an extreme limitation. It’s just on the deluge, you’re not locked into 64 step segments. You can work with 128 steps or 256, or however long you want, and then string those together into an arrangement. I should have made that point more clear in the video.
@@LFOVoyager that makes sense. I guess the way it is on the opxy it felt organizationally easier to work with chunks instead of one long chain, but I suppose it would be nice if I had the option in case I don’t want to use the scenes for whatever’s reason
I really want to love the Deluge, I even sent mine in back to NZ to have the screen installed, but it's really tough to make it sound great from first switch-on, especially when using the integrated speaker. I think it's really important for a digital notepad to have a preset palette that is optimised to jump into working on an idea and not having to do extended sound design or preset auditioning without getting put off by how low quality it sounds. I've purchased a few preset packs to try to ameliorate this but the workflow to get going is just too long. Compare this with the OP-Z, which has a much more limited sonic palette, but they're all ready to go, and the workflow of the OP-Z really urges you forward in a way the Deluge doesn't - put your drums here, bass here, chord here, lead here, and change to a different chord and I'll rewrite it so it sounds great. Have a play with a few filters and punch in effects. Boom. Song. IMO that is peak musical notebook. Ableton Move is similar in a lot of ways, trading the OP-Z's excellent chord stuff for the amazing capture button and an even better, exceptionally curated set of presets. The Deluge is like sitting at an American style diner with a huge menu, most things inedible, the chef not really doing the work of bringing you the best choices, at every step. You can order every course after every course and most things are not what you want but we're still going to offer them all to you all the time. Ultimately, making art is about inspiration and taste, not feature set. I'm delighted that Deluge is open source and hope that will result in a much more designed, supportive and opinionated workflow, but typically open source projects focus on adding features rather than shaping a vision.
I totally get what you’re saying. My main use for the deluge is to record and sequence my other synths, along with using the deluge for samples and drum sequencing, so the synth engine really wasn’t that important to me. I have however purchased all of the Boards of Deluge preset packs and absolutely love them. If I’m trying to get that BoC lofi pitch shifting vibe, those presets are amazing.
The Deluge is when you realize that with a little bit of initial effort and then subsequent moderation of effort, you don't ever have to go to the diner again, and you can invite your homies over for some fire af hash browns.
This video is absolute gold. You're hitting such a ridiculously tiny niche it probably doesn't justify the awesome production value, but for those of us who happen to be in that niche... we salute you.
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment.
As the creator of Boards of Deluge I can only confirm - manufacturers are very slowly getting closer to what Deluge had to offer back in 2018. Thanks for this video. Subbed!
I have really loved your patches. I have Vols 1-4. Also for other devices. I haven't done alot of deluging in the past year or two, but really looking to get back into it with the CE firmware.
@@Synth-PatchesCom Bro, you’re a legend. I’ve purchased all of the Boards of Deluge. I didn’t even think the deluge synth sounded good until I heard your packs.
@@LFOVoyager Thanks!!! Have fun and give us more vids! Your work with Polybrute 12 is outstanding. Big up!
I think Synthstrom missed a great opportunity: buy/license your sounds and ship them with the Deluge. I sold mine because I'm not a sound design guy and didn't want to spend time in building sounds or collecting samples.
I have *all* your patches and love them dearly. You are absolutely a legend and you and the Community Firmware are the best thing to happen to the Deluge. Having said that, there definitely is a "Deluge sound" that it's a little hard to break out of without lots of multisampling. The TE synths -- from the OPZ to the OP1 to the OPXY -- I've just found to be much more straightforwardly usable.
Did not expect this video from title. Props for that. Love my Deluge.
Subbed
Well, congratulations on your future success when this videos blows up. You deserve it.
Thank you!
Dirtywave M8, Polyend portable Tracker
Polyend Tracker has no battery. But I do carry mine portable with a usb power bank.
The Tracker Mini does, and it is awesome.
M8 MK2 is more overpriced if you look at hardware/cost metric only. Both excel in programming though...And that is why Behringer does not invent but just steal and copy
This is EXACTLY what I needed to watch this evening. Thank you friend.
Amazing video brother !!! Absolutely love it
@@synthsamuraiproductions thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
At first I thought this was just another OP-XY fan-vid. Found out that you are just a normal, ever happy Deluge-user. I just adore mine. The best music gear I’ve ever bought. Peered with the Linnstrument it’s a beast of portable bring-on-the-work-trip beasts! ❤
Thanks for making this! Felt like everyone was saying XY is too expensive, but werent really breaking it down quite like this. EDIT: LOL Loved the Spoof at the end. 10/10
Thanks. I think if outperformed everything else on the market and did it with that TE style, the reaction to the price would be a lot different.
Saw the ad with you dancing and subscribed xD Man keep the good work
And my wife said that was a bad idea 😂
Haha! Unexpectable content!
I was GASing about XY that's why I've opened this video. But thanks, dude! I was able to overcame that GAS, go back to my Deluge, play it, and write some new features for it (my new Piano keyboard layout for Deluge has just been approved to the Community FW).
And I am completely happy.
@@MyReasonToPlay glad I could be of service. I’m trying to overcome the same GAS. 🤣
@LFOVoyager btw, your thin sidewalls on Deluge looks sexy
I've heard amazing things about deluge. This might be the most capable unit in this category. Great video, earned my sub!
True story I owned the OG op1 when it cost £600 to buy but ended up selling it when I saw the deluge at superbooth when they added the arranger mode and that was it the deluge was mine. The community firmware is absolutely astounding with features added and more importantly issues solved very quickly. My OG deluge has had it's oled to further future proof it. Great video!
Amazing vid, thanks for comparing them. The OP-XY will never be on my radar but the deluge has been. I then bought a polyend play and love it but, this vid has reinvigorated my interest in the deluge. Stay awesome and keep making content like this, fantastic.
One may think that a certain niche is already crowded, that there is nothing new to say or make, and then this guy appears with such refreshing and fun content.
Thanks bro. I appreciate your comment.
Thanks for reminding me I have all I need with my deluge (especially now that I sent it overseas and back for the new OLED screen).
You recreating the OPXY ad had me 😂😂
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Best day I have had one UA-cam in a long time
Agreed!
In short- if something can bring joy to your life and it doesn’t hurt anyone- and you can afford it- get it.
Op-z user here- I can’t afford the price of OPXY- so I went different route- got myself Polyend Tracker. Boy my assumptions about this device were sooo wrong. It’s super easy to use, logical and intuitive. If You have GAS - and OPXY is out of your price range- maybe try Trackers?
Best wishes ❤
Polyend Play is also a great alternative to the Tracker. They have two completely different workflows, but both are enjoyable in their own way.
@@grunwald1 I completely agree. Great suggestion on the Polyend Tracker.
I recently got a Tracker Mini and it's been a game changer. Absolutely in love with it!
TRY TRACKERS (but actual trackers)
you NAILED it. Well executed on every level
Thank you
This is so well presented and such good content. I am pretty obsessed with op xy but the deluge seems to be a good addition lol. Op xy is a lot more portable, so it will still be a better travel companion. But I love the large pad grid on the deluge to make a the song a lot more visible. Can’t wait to try it. Thanks for creating this awesome and very entertaining video. Love your sense of humor.
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
What an excellent advert for the Deluge - I’ve been using the XY for a week now and you’re on the money with regards to the portability factor; there’s nothing else that can compete with it except for….the op-1 field! That said, the Deluge is my all time favourite groovebox and I’d certainly recommend it over the XY - It’s a jack of all trades. You’re right about sequencing sheet music: I’ve done this on the Deluge and it performed brilliantly.
How are you liking the XY?
@@LFOVoyagerExcellent but not for everybody - I think it’ll be better for a lot of people than the op-1 field: sequencing allows you to go back and tweak endlessly whereas recording to audio doesn’t. It also plays very well with external gear and thanks to the audio buffer you can affect external synths with all the glitchy effects. Resampling is very easy too. I think people look at it and think because it’s small it shouldn’t cost so much, but miniaturising technology is expensive, and this thing is so miniature.
Great video! Just found in the middle of scripting my comparison video 😁
Thanks for confirming my personal bias. I love my deluge. it is the absolute best musical investment i've made.
Always deluge. Only deluge.
Your video was as insightful as it was HILARIOUS! You have a new subscriber.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Deluge for life!
Yooo 3D!! So interesting to see you in this hobby as well! Love your other videos and look forward to what you have in store.
@@ItsMrMcFly hey, I was wondering if any diecast fans would find me here. I plan on showing some of the music I’ve made for the 3dbotmaker channel on here in the future.
Love this vid. Great job on showing Deluge's quick workflow, this is exactly why i like it so much. Deluge was actually the 1st thing that came to my mind when I saw the op-xy. I have to op-z, i love it, but there are not 2300$ worth of upgrades. If TE would make the op-z synth engine open, i could play with it endlessly....just like on the Deluge.
These are my EXACT thoughts every time TE comes out with a product! I have to slap myself and remember that my OP-1 sat around and did nothing for the last couple years while I recorded an album with the Deluge. Great vid
Yeah, after the initial “wow this is cool” phase, mine sat around too. I was using it as a basic midi controller at one point. 😂
Excellent video man! Keep on keeping on!
Thanks.
Interesting take! As someone that just makes music for a fun hobby, I just sold my Deluge to help fund my XY. It was super powerful but the workflow is just really bad to me, I shouldn’t need a notebook of shortcuts to use the thing. I’ve had more fun in 2 days on the XY than the 2 years I had the Deluge.
I also have an M8 MK1 that I love and is way more powerful, but it’s kind of like working in excel. There’s just nothing else portable that’s quite so immediate and fun as the XY in my personal opinion.
It sure was expensive though!
Hey I get it, I’ve had gear that other people swear by, and it just wasn’t for me. You gotta find what works for you and your workflow.
Deluge ❤
A really big plus for me with the deluge is how close it is to Ableton live conceptually. It’s so easy to translate daw knowledge to the Deluge. The way notes are showed on the big pad is just so sweet! Long story short, I love my deluge so so much.
Btw I just discovered your Channel, great stuff!
Yes, the way the pads are used makes sequencing notes very intuitive. I especially like seeing all the drum triggers at once, instead of having to select the parts individually.
The Deluge sequencer for drums is the best I’ve ever seen. Not only swappable pieces in the kits, but infinite pieces and infinite length, plus zoom in for notes between the 1/16ths AND triplet mode. If they narrowed down the functionality of Deluge to just the sequencer and drum kits in a smaller format with punch in fx and better effects in general, I would have gotten it over XY.
Great video dude! Couldn't agree more. ❤
Thanks!
Dude you are on another level. You trolled me and I was pleasantly surprised. Well done! This is a rare feat in any medium in any time period. Liked (loved) and subscribed. KPow! Knockout. Now I'm going to jump down into the Deluge rabbit hole on UA-cam for the next few hours. Thanks! I guess. ;)
Thanks. Enjoy the rabbit hole adventure. You never know where it will lead.
future self slap knocked some sense into me. awesome vid man. subbed
As a Deluge user who also has an OP-1F, I am curious how the XY synth engines compare?
i could not love this video more
This video was so well done
Thanks.
Incredible. A+
This video is excellent man! Nice work.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Wild review - exactly what my future-self needed ;)
I love the comparison. And yes. The Deluge is the only thing coming to mind.
M8 is very close. But you forgot to factor in playability. Like playing chords and melodies.
Also Deluge s workflow is a bit cryptic. Especially after the new awesome community firmware.
On the other hand the XY has a better sequencer. Step components are awesome.
@@alecsbuga glad it wasn't just me getting a bit lost with all those updates and hidden functions! Some overlays would be a huge help
@@Farold_Haltermeyeroverlays absolutely exist, one manufacturer makes a sticky one and another makes a magnetic one
@@evilrainbow awesome sauce, will dig 'em up if I take the dive again, cheers!
@Farold_Haltermeyer ya, just literally search "deluge overlay" and they'll pop up. can't remember the name of the companies off hand
You deserve more subs - great and funny work! (And I have ordered the XY!😂)
Thanks, this is me talking myself out of buying it. “You already have gear that can do that” 😂
OP-1's can be had for under 1K now. Great video btw....now i'm looking at the Deluge again!
This was a really great video, I’m impressed! Very fair to narrow down the reasonable comparisons. I owned Deluge and had a blast, but sold it after a year. There were some things that I couldn’t get over. As you pointed out, workflow is huge, and Deluge felt tedious to me personally. I never felt like I could PERFORM with it, merely compose and press play, which I didn’t feel like I needed a $1,000 (at the time) device for. It also lacked features that my particular musical direction requires, and it lacked fx sends via hardware. I considered buying another Deluge, but the hardware limitations stopped me. I do appreciate the new screen and the open source aspect, though.
XY came out and the more I dug into its features, the more it became clear that this was the groovebox I had been waiting for. Arrangeable, performable, portable, and very efficient, inspiring and creative workflow. There are still some software updates I can hope for it, but it truly is the most suitable device for my particular musical style (with sound design done externally and sampled in.)
Again, great work on this video!
Yes, I agree, the Deluge isn’t really a performance instrument. I pretty much use it as a DAW replacement to record and sequence my other synths.
Every device has a purpose for someone. And Deluge is certainly feature rich. I’m glad it works for you! I really would buy a mkll if they streamlined the workflow and implemented some hardware features.
Just when you mentioned that there is nothing like that out there, I was screaming DELUGE
OP-XY is the only game in town for the sequencer component tricks and the performance effect tricks. OP-1 is the only game in town for the analog tape simulation. Nobody else has these things, not sure why.
Good video and good points. Deluge is a great device and being open source makes it very unique. The elephant in the room is the Sp404mk2. They just added a synth engine which makes it part of this category too. And it’s $900 less than the Deluge.
Nice video! I own a Deluge and have used it almost daily since 1,5 years. There is one feature on the OP XY that i would love on the Deluge: The 'brain'. I am no trained pianist, i cannot simply transpose a melody just like that. But then again: The Deluge is open source and a transpose-feature may potentially eventually come to the Deluge!
Yeah, the brain feature looks pretty cool.
Great video and an unexpected turn. The Deluge actually shows how much of a scam the synth industry seems to be lately 😄, at least that's how I feel. Especially when looking at hardware synths that were analog 20 years ago but are now being re-released as digital versions with the same polyphony count as the analog ones, it's something I still don't understand to this day. My mobile phone can handle more polyphony and almost an entire DAW. Then, looking at the Elektron Digitakt / Syntakt... no polyphony at all. Only two effects for the master, at least for the Syntakt. They already got us to a point that we are celebrating an addition like a chorus to the digitakt 2. It feels pretty ridiculous. Next would be Ableton move .... 4 tracks... no more to say 😄.
Years ago people were probably saying “in the future we’re going to have so much polyphony” fast forward 40 years and it’s the same 😂
I’ve bought and sold the Deluge twice, not enjoying it much but you’re tempting me to give it the ol’ 3rd time around
If you sold it twice it may be time to move on. 😂 Although they do say third time’s a charm.
@LFOVoyager isn't it also a sign of insanity!? Speaking of which you've convinced me to take time plunge on an OP-XY too so I can actually compare the workflows and how much I get out of them, if anything, as someone who prefers midi recorders and tape to programming sequencers...great to have 30/60 day returns on everything these days, you can actually make educated purchases and comparisons
I owned the original Deluge and the Deluge OLED. It was amazing, but the learning curve was just too steep for me as a casual user. I have an OP-1 Field and the interface, to me, is just easier to navigate. Hoping the OP-XY is similar, because I plan on getting one soon.
The OP-Z is pretty complicated, so I expect more or less the same from the XY. That said, the OP-Z is arguably the most creative and unique sequencer around. An expanded version of it in the XY with better synth engines will be well worth the investment of time required to master it. The XY will also unlock some cool workflows in the Field and vice versa. I’m saving up for an XY to use with my Field and Ableton Move (amazing device for the cost).
Honstely I got one and I have read half of the Manual and starting to get confortable with the device, but the fun to use it is soooo big it’s always a pleasure to go on it, personally composition on the xy is very very fluid and fast
I own all 3 (Deluge, OP-XY, OP-1F) and I’ve gotta say op-xy is super fun, but so many areas of quick workflow (copy a scene) are sorely missed. For me op-xy is a more refined version with workflows similar to both deluge and m8, although doing neither quite as efficiently, far more expensive, but a fun a different set of features. I’ve been on a quest to find something I like more than the deluge, but always and be up back there!
The battery life is way better on the OP-XY, 16 hours (vs 6 for deluge, which is still pretty good). Perhaps the energy efficiency is due to reasonable limitations. It is also a much smaller device, and this adds to costs. It is actually 9 times 4 bars (nine patterns per track), so way deeper than you said. The punch in effects and the step components can be quite helpful, can be recorded on the step sequencer, and are fun to play live. Super entertaining video. Good job. The deluge looks sick.
My all-in-one contenders are the M8, Deluge and Akai Force.
It's worth it if you can afford it and it inspires you. I've gotten more use out of it in two weeks for my purposes than any single piece of gear I've used in the last year of making a record. It's a Swiss Army knife, sounds great, and is portable and inspiring.
Glad to hear it’s working out for you!
Omfg that recreation of the dance scene of their add ! 😂🤣😂
Deluge was actually among top choices when I was searching for a device which would solve Yamaha Seqtrak's shortcomings (mainly count of tracks and crappy piano roll). But then I found MPC and fell in love with it - just added Arturia Miinlab 3 to have a decent MIDI controller. I initially loved the portability idea, but then I figured that whenever I can squeeze some time to make music, I always have a desk and power outlet nearby anyway. And MPC has fantastic, easy to use piano roll, which I use most of the time. So in my case MPC it is. But I really hold a lot of respect towards Deluge, so maybe one day...
The MPC is a complete studio. Super powerful. I had the live 2. The workflow didn’t work out for how I like to make music, but it could pretty much do everything with great built in sounds.
Amazing video
Glad you liked it!
you had me at deluge
11:20 that dance. 😂 I agree. deluge is tough to beat in so many aspects
dude deserves more subscribers
This was awesome.
I think Teenage Engineering should put out a car next.
They have the teenage engineering grip car available for $250. 🤣 it’s some kind of toy car
@@LFOVoyager haha yes. I remember. Also existing among their product line- a table.
Can you see the wave on the deluge?
The waveform of a sample is displayed on the RGB pads (it’s like a big pixel display). You can zoom in and out of it to set start and end points.
Yes. On the pads, not on the screen.
WTF this dude is my new favourite dude! Avesome video!
Thanks bro!
I think it comes down to whether the particular abilities AND limitations of any device suit your approach to music. So, if money is no object and the OPXY fits your workflow - that's awesome.
For everyone else, they can get way more features for way less money with the Deluge.
Very well said.
I have both: Deluge for over two years and OP XY for about a week. While Deluge is a great idea, its execution is severely flawed. I won't go into details, but it just doesn't sound good and is very easy to overload. (Yes, that included third-party patches; I've been programming synths for over 30 years.) While not perfect, XY sounds good out of the box, and the workflow is much cleaner. I use Deluge as a portable sequencer for external gear (Hapax in the studio).
OP XY's form factor and battery are an excellent benefit for me. Slick design is a bonus :)
Having said that, I'll be keeping both.
It's true that the Deluge CPU can sometimes get overloaded and drop voices, especially when you're throwing a lot of FX on your tracks. But it's a 2-second solve, just resample those FX-heavy clips into an audio clip and you've fixed it
Like any groovebox there are limitations, there are also workarounds for a lot of them. And for fans of the Deluge, the few limitations that remain are often vectors for creativity and resourcefuness that improve the quality of the musical output.
I think it comes down to whether the particular abilities AND limitations of any device suit your approach to music. So, if money is no object and the OPXY fits your workflow - that's awesome.
For everyone else, they can get more features for less money with the Deluge.
this is awesome bruv, subscribing ❤
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I have never in my life seen anybody make music on the go.
I had no clue that the Deluge was battery operated and it samples. It's looking more promising for me now.
It does not last for 16 hours however. I think it's 6.
Still Pretty good
The battery is also easily replaceable when it eventually stops holding a charge. I’m still on the original battery, but I’ve removed the side panel and you have easy access to swap it out.
@NoiseCommander3DS that's about what I get out of my Live ll. I could live with that.
@@wren23_bass-synths Plus, people often seem to miss this - Deluge has a piano roll sequencer. A piano roll sequencer. That you use with multiple fingers, not a mouse. I cannot stress enough how big of a deal this is. Entering notes and chords visually like this is a complete gamechanger. No matter how cool the OP-XY or anything else is, you’d still be creating/editing sequences using your memory, not your eyes.
The piano sequencer that you can multi touch is huge. I think I take it for granted that it’s not on other similar devices.
great vid, yeah idk if they'll sell a lot of OP-XY units
Brilliant video! Brilliant! Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Nice vid! Subscribed!
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
This was a great video. Hilarious! Great info. Subbed. Thanks man!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
My mobile music production device is the polyend tracker mini and i love it. The cost is 25% of the op-xy.
2:09 I guess the M8 is comparable and in the same category
beautifully done, man, bravo! I was not expecting what this video became and the comedic instinct was perfect. Much respect for playing it straight. I can afford the op-xy but am in no way compelled, neither for the op-1. sketch pads began the pro-toy pivot of music gear into mass market miniaturization. A good idea that in hindsight has mostly just preyed on gas. But i guess it's right there in the brand name. TE peaked with pocket operators. Please, someone, leak their sales figures!
Thanks bro. The pro audio toys look like so much fun, but often times end up collecting dust on a shelf.
@@LFOVoyager They are fun but yes, that's about it and honestly what most people these days are actually after. Which is cool, no foul in having synth collections or music hobbies. It's the endless restrictions on functionality and iterations on the same thing...watching people buy into the hype of music toys that gets annoying. Meanwhile very little music of interest is being made. Having learned my final lesson from buying the Syntakt I now see Hainbach videos proclaiming 'inspiration box' and it gives desperate marketing ploy for a chaotic uncontrollable synth. Soma is the only company making anything beautiful but even they fall prey to aleatoric engineering.
Throughout the whole intro I was thinking “this guy hasn’t heard about the Deluge, just like everyone else 🙄” 😅
I enjoyed the video. I came here for the Deluge. Never had any of the machines you mention here, however I would say that - sizewise - the MPC is comparable to the Deluge.
Deluuuuuuge ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
lol this is like an ad for the Deluge, but dirtywave M8 + a cheap midi keyboard is the GOAATTTTT. Btw this is true and i am not biased, i am a youtube comment so you can trust me.
I always trust the UA-cam comments.
Dam that beat on the deluge came out sick though!
Thanks.
You had a perfect start with category and went completely “delusional” 😂 betraying your own point. Definitely not in the same category, OP-XY is way smaller (borderline what can be considered portable) and screen makes a big difference, incl synth engine interaction and perception. If you relax the rules you better compare Deluge to OP-Z, no screen, no velocity, and you can buy a whole bunch at price of Deluge … plus throw a punch to a peasant or how those ep-ko-ii-mthfcr they called LOL 🎉
Anyways, they all amazing devices! And your presentation fits right in into category of inspiring, entertaining, and too cool! ❤
Thanks for the comment. I bought the deluge to replace the original OP-1, so I’m familiar with the sizes and workflow. For me, someone looking for a device that I can pick up, go to a coffee shop, make full complete songs on with audio, midi, built in synth engines and tactile controls, they’re both in that category despite their differences.
@@LFOVoyager Just pulling your leg 😜It's a great trade-off between full size Maschine+/Push3 and M8/OP-Z size of a device!
I never got to Deluge myself because trying to get smthg from a store with ability to return in 30-45 days because I know the guy I'm buying it for is too picky, unreasonable, and unpredicted what he'll like lol
If I remember correctly, I think I got an email a few months ago that the deluge was going to be available from certain retailers. When I got mine you had to order it direct.
@@LFOVoyagerLast Christmas I traveled to Australia…… missed opportunity 😊
The Octatrack & Digitakt II beat the OPXY on every level. Just need a powerbank and you're set.
Yes, those would make a great portable setup.
which, all together, costs more than the op-xy, and is less portable
@@morgue502 Just one of them is enough and the digitakt size is small enough to travel with everywhere
How do you figure? I have both and love them both but it’s apples to grapes.
That’s two machines instead of one. Both are bigger. They are heavier. About 400 euros more expensive. No battery. No polyphony unless you are willing to sacrifice multiple tracks. No synthesis on either machine (aside from single cycle waveforms), no punch in effects. Digitakt doesn’t even have proper slicing. Octatrack has many effects though only 2 per track (although they are sends which I appreciate).
@@ryanhursh6322 the octatrack and digitakt are 400e more expensive? where? The octatrack is a bit more difficult to move but the digi, c'mon! And for the rest i think you need to take some courses. i own the OT and man! What you can do with is crazy. Please, spend some time on the elektron forum if you really want to get deep. Did you try to explore the power a samples chain. Only 2 effects block but you have 16 crossfaders scenes. Do you realise how many effects you can do? Time 4 because of 4 parts. 3 LFO per tracks, i repeat 3 LFO per tracks. You can sample and play your sample with no lag. For a 12 years old sample, The OT is the KING. Do u realise we compare it with a brand new OPXY and it still the boss (at least for me). RESPECT
If you have an OT why do you own a digitakt??
I gotta say I really liked this. Also, where’d you get those end cheeks for the Deluge? I dig it.
Hey, glad you enjoyed it. I custom made those end cheeks to make it fit in a storage area on my desk.
@@LFOVoyager Turned out great.
The Deluge is a really cool product, and I'd probably also rather have it than the XY. I'd put not only the Deluge but also the M8, Tracker+ and Tracker Mini above the XY too. I own all of them, and both the M8 and the Polyend devices have a much richer sequencer than the XY. I do think that the XY has the better sounding synths, but all of the other devices have better samplers. I'd say give me the better sampler and sequencer any day. And there's the price of course. And I didn't even mention the Akai lineup.
I had the MPC live 2 which is pretty much a complete DAW.
Of course you’re going to say those are better because that’s what you can afford
@phatplates you know my financial situation?
never been a huge fan of grid style devices like the deluge, its amazing what it can do but also it seems to sacrifice a bit on sound quality to push so much out. Perfect device for someone obsessed with features lists though 😄...I kid though it is an amazing device... I wish it was for me.
Great vid bro Funny😂 very helpful wow😮
immediate sub just for the intro. I'm a self avowed TE hater (early OG-1 adopter), Deluge, and M8 user.
While I will certainly never give TE a cent of my money bc of their absolute and unbridled hubris as well as their artificial scarcity schemes over the years, to each their own.
(second hand market however 😬)
Use what you want, spend your money how you like, do no harm.
Just don't buy Behringer clones of devices that are already on the market.
Also don't pay scalper prices for the M8. We got your backs when you decide to come wield the true DAWless DAW.
Great content! Keep it up.
Appreciate it!
After watching the whole thing I have to chime in. It’s main strength is the workflow. Everything is very well laid via dedicated buttons and pages. I have never came up with great ideas so fast as with this one. Yes, it’s expensive af, but it’s a great device. I know because I owned almost every groovebox since the first one more than two decades ago.
Workflow is probably the most subjective aspect, and it really comes down to what works best for your style of making music. I liked the workflow of the OP-1 for the most part, and I could see myself enjoying the XY workflow as well.
@@LFOVoyager I have both and I think the OP-1 workflow is original and unique, but the OP-XY is just brilliant. It really is. That said I agree it's too expensive at first sight and the limitations (20 sec, really?) are ridiculous for that reason. In the end, it only boils down to one question. Are you willing to spend that amount of money on this? I really do, but I'm very fortunate to have a big budget.
Yo! This channel needs more subs 💯🔥🙌
awesome video!!
Haha, from the thumbnail for a second I thought it was Benn Jordan but on a new channel!
lol, after I made it, I thought the same thing.
Wow, great job again. ☺️
Thanks!
Elektron you can plug into usb if you buy the usb to 12volts converter which is $45
I’ve been thinking about doing that for my digitone 2.
@@LFOVoyager I bought 2, they work great, now to test out the plane ride to Thailand and hope the usb on the seat in front of me works the same
Synthstrom deluge!!! Yes
For the price of the OP Balenciaga Edition, you could buy a Synthstrom Deluge, 2-Teenage Engineering EP133 K.O.2s, and a Roland Aira P-6 sampler.
Thanks man!
Thx dude 🙏✨
Damn you. Subscribed!
One correction, each “scene” is 64 steps but you can put 99 scenes together so for sequencing you aren’t limited to 64 at all
Thanks for the clarification.
I didn’t think it was 64 steps for an entire song, that would be an extreme limitation. It’s just on the deluge, you’re not locked into 64 step segments. You can work with 128 steps or 256, or however long you want, and then string those together into an arrangement. I should have made that point more clear in the video.
@@LFOVoyager Also each track with it's own length. Also, quantized launching of different projects.
@@LFOVoyager that makes sense. I guess the way it is on the opxy it felt organizationally easier to work with chunks instead of one long chain, but I suppose it would be nice if I had the option in case I don’t want to use the scenes for whatever’s reason
Title had me all gassed up and ready to pull the trigger on some TE salted licorice candy and now… I want a Deluge
Loved the video btw
We’re all trying to cope with that GAS. 😂
I really want to love the Deluge, I even sent mine in back to NZ to have the screen installed, but it's really tough to make it sound great from first switch-on, especially when using the integrated speaker. I think it's really important for a digital notepad to have a preset palette that is optimised to jump into working on an idea and not having to do extended sound design or preset auditioning without getting put off by how low quality it sounds. I've purchased a few preset packs to try to ameliorate this but the workflow to get going is just too long.
Compare this with the OP-Z, which has a much more limited sonic palette, but they're all ready to go, and the workflow of the OP-Z really urges you forward in a way the Deluge doesn't - put your drums here, bass here, chord here, lead here, and change to a different chord and I'll rewrite it so it sounds great. Have a play with a few filters and punch in effects. Boom. Song. IMO that is peak musical notebook. Ableton Move is similar in a lot of ways, trading the OP-Z's excellent chord stuff for the amazing capture button and an even better, exceptionally curated set of presets.
The Deluge is like sitting at an American style diner with a huge menu, most things inedible, the chef not really doing the work of bringing you the best choices, at every step. You can order every course after every course and most things are not what you want but we're still going to offer them all to you all the time. Ultimately, making art is about inspiration and taste, not feature set. I'm delighted that Deluge is open source and hope that will result in a much more designed, supportive and opinionated workflow, but typically open source projects focus on adding features rather than shaping a vision.
I totally get what you’re saying. My main use for the deluge is to record and sequence my other synths, along with using the deluge for samples and drum sequencing, so the synth engine really wasn’t that important to me. I have however purchased all of the Boards of Deluge preset packs and absolutely love them. If I’m trying to get that BoC lofi pitch shifting vibe, those presets are amazing.
The Deluge is when you realize that with a little bit of initial effort and then subsequent moderation of effort, you don't ever have to go to the diner again, and you can invite your homies over for some fire af hash browns.
I can’t hate. Subbed.