Dervish in Progress - Dans Gösterisi | Ziya Azazi | TEDxİKÜ

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Ziya Azazi'den muhteşem bir dans performansı
    Ziya Azazi was born in Antakya, Turkey. He studied at Mining Faculty in Istanbul Technical University between 1986 and 1991, when he also studied gymnastics.From 1990 to 1994, he created his first choreographic works in the State Theatre of Istanbul.
    He worked with Tanz Atelier Sebastian Prantl (TAW), Tanz Hotel, and Willi Dorner between 1994 and 1998.Having put on stage his solo performance, “Unterwegs Tabula Rasa”, in Vienna in 1999, he was awarded with a scholarship by Summer Dance Week Vienna (Dance Web), and he was entitled “The Most Outstanding Dancer of the Year in Austria” by the Ballet International Magazine.Azazi started to explore the traditional dance of the Sufis in 1999.
    Choreographing this dance with different interpretations, he created his solo performances “Work in Progress I” (2001), “Work in Progress II” (2003). He continued to work with Vienna Volksoper, Theaterhaus, Stuttgart, and Grand Théâtre de Genevre during those years.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 231

  • @bellaciao11
    @bellaciao11 3 роки тому +34

    All these people complaining don't understand that this is worship, this is god, forget what the books and prophets say, this connection where the human soul elevates to something divine is what it's all about. Beautiful, raw, magnificent.

  • @mohammedishtiaqali2253
    @mohammedishtiaqali2253 4 роки тому +51

    Sufism 😍 Proud to be born to a Sufi family.

    • @misterx5795
      @misterx5795 4 роки тому +10

      Sorry to say it doesn't matter
      What matters the most is our deeds.

    • @sufialiaquat6804
      @sufialiaquat6804 3 роки тому +1

      Can you suggest me a book to read? I really eant to knoe bout sufism

    • @ziya-ur-rahman3852
      @ziya-ur-rahman3852 3 роки тому +2

      @@sufialiaquat6804 40 rules of love

    • @sufyanahmed2263
      @sufyanahmed2263 3 роки тому +1

      SO sad

    • @hiperkinetico2011
      @hiperkinetico2011 Місяць тому

      hola, tengo una duda , siempre se gira hacia la izquierda?

  • @ramco_38
    @ramco_38 3 роки тому +60

    Kendi Anlatımıyla :
    Bahsi geçen Dervish In Progress (Gelişmekte olan Derviş) isimli performansımda bir arınma öyküsü anlatmaktayım. Hayatta giyindiğimiz kimliklerden kurtulmayı, kalbi ve ruhu arındırmayı; özetle kabuk içinde kabuk olan benliğin çıplaklaşma uğraşını sergileyen bir danstır bu.
    Şovun sonunda (ölümü temsilen) eteğin altında kalışım da, bu uğraşın mezara kadar sürmesi gerektiğini ima eder. “Düne ilişkin ne varsa dünde kaldı cancağzım, bugün yeni şeyler söylemek lâzım” der Celaleddin-i Rumi.
    Tabi ki Anlayana :/

    • @djangomango9555
      @djangomango9555 2 роки тому

      Siz kendi kafaniza Göre ist Mi yapiorsunuz

    • @handelibaral
      @handelibaral 2 роки тому

      Derin ve estetik, çok etkilendim. Büyüleyici.

    • @cucanedun
      @cucanedun 10 місяців тому

      Tabii ki, analyalayanlar için hikmetler var

  • @dearyful
    @dearyful 3 роки тому +21

    Bu gösteriye verilen olumsuz tepki ve linç konusunda ülkem adına utanç duyuyorum. Özür dileriz Ziya.

  • @Saminnik
    @Saminnik 4 роки тому +95

    He started neat, clean and in a very sane way, thoroughout his journey, he became mad, limitless and lost his mind which is the ultimatum of his way.
    Insane, free, wild
    Ride on human
    Ride on.

  • @sayagitude426
    @sayagitude426 5 років тому +109

    Omg it's so beautiful. It tell us story about how ego being stripped, until nothing left, the dead of Ego in progress. So deep, so sufism the music is awesome really fall in love in first sight (hear).

    • @MustaWizard
      @MustaWizard 5 років тому +3

      niggas spinning around is beautiful?

  • @hecermammadzade5938
    @hecermammadzade5938 3 роки тому +66

    There is a concept in Buddhism he is like riding on a wheel of samsara , suffering (dukha) and letting go of cravings ( tanha) and attachment ,detaching from material world and reaching Nirvana. Also i think making rounds can increase DMT in the brain which usually causes awakenings

    • @k03dz0n3
      @k03dz0n3 2 роки тому +3

      interesting contribution, thanks for sharing!

    • @bgirlsweetmuser
      @bgirlsweetmuser 2 роки тому

      So... there’s nothing Islamic about this?

    • @k03dz0n3
      @k03dz0n3 2 роки тому +5

      @@bgirlsweetmuser no… that’s just a spiritual parallel

    • @bgirlsweetmuser
      @bgirlsweetmuser 2 роки тому +1

      @@k03dz0n3 ahh interesting. Thank you. Any reliable source that you can recommend where I can know more about Sufism?

    • @k03dz0n3
      @k03dz0n3 2 роки тому +4

      @@bgirlsweetmuser sorry i think i misinterpreted your comment... sufism and this practice is a part of islam, but the buddhist conception is similar albeit different (non-islamic)

  • @jackmchammocklashing224
    @jackmchammocklashing224 Рік тому +8

    I was on a Costa cruise ship in EGYPT and they had these people on for a night on stage IT WAS AMAZING and I will never forget the scene I saw Bravo

  • @helentalia9923
    @helentalia9923 4 роки тому +66

    I realize this is a modern version of Sufism, but I am in an awe of a human practice dedicated to the longing to be closer to God almighty. Much respect and love.

    • @srejonb2544
      @srejonb2544 3 роки тому +1

      Why can’t you appreciate art without bringing religion into this?

    • @maodo-ma-Ngai
      @maodo-ma-Ngai 3 роки тому

      @Ganda Bacha same same

    • @NaViAgain-ts9lj
      @NaViAgain-ts9lj 3 роки тому +4

      @@srejonb2544 it's a religious practice

    • @TashaSewingTutorials
      @TashaSewingTutorials Рік тому +3

      Actually the whirling dervish dances have been a thing since the 13th century so ...

    • @TashaSewingTutorials
      @TashaSewingTutorials Рік тому +7

      @srejonb2544 probably because this is how sufi Muslims pray. You were literally watching this man pray and you didn't even know it.

  • @jaivkoltun4948
    @jaivkoltun4948 2 роки тому +8

    Wow, this is taking it to another level, and he got the god power from the inside. You can feel it !!!!! Beautiful to watch, sublime to feel. . .

  • @loriandrade5759
    @loriandrade5759 2 роки тому +6

    What a beautiful performance, and beautiful music. I wish you all the luck in the world. I'm just barely learning about this. This is the first video I watch.

  • @mohammadlalehrangi9346
    @mohammadlalehrangi9346 5 років тому +11

    Wow he is spot on , truly dance master

  • @tulaysinmaz9664
    @tulaysinmaz9664 2 роки тому +2

    Marvelous poem and music thank you the best dancer💯💯💯💯💯💯❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🤲🤲👍👏👏

  • @ineffable9567
    @ineffable9567 5 років тому +4

    ... your dance is magical because your Love is real ...

  • @h.h2610
    @h.h2610 2 місяці тому

    Ziya is the best dancer ever, no one can do it better!

  • @elyane8clementine
    @elyane8clementine 7 років тому +16

    Transcendent. ....En ne quittant pas le danseur des yeux,en entrant dans la musique, il est pratiquement possible de rejoindre l'esprit qui conduit la danse. ...

  • @mehyeddinahmad411
    @mehyeddinahmad411 6 років тому +4

    ابدااااع الموسيقى جميلة جداا وفنه ودورانه بطريقة جدا رائعة

  • @pheotus
    @pheotus 5 років тому +9

    Absolutely beautiful

  • @claudiamarengo9375
    @claudiamarengo9375 5 років тому +4

    Thanks Ziya, every time I look at you and listen, I discover something new. And I dance and sing Insan Insan with you.

  • @cruzmora8390
    @cruzmora8390 6 років тому +6

    Guau
    He forms a toroid, a warmhole. Beautifull dance.

  • @hisworkmanship7258
    @hisworkmanship7258 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful dance.

  • @caglarkarademir
    @caglarkarademir 3 роки тому +5

    Amazing performance, amazing music. The lighting is the opposite though.

  • @TarotEla
    @TarotEla 5 років тому +3

    You are Great Manifestor !!! and my inspiration !!! thank you. I would give thousands of likes for this video.

  • @rachaidriss3976
    @rachaidriss3976 4 роки тому +4

    La dance est superbe

  • @artSFCA
    @artSFCA 6 років тому +3

    Beautiful....Sublime!

  • @uliaona
    @uliaona 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing and great!!! 🙌

  • @queeng3475
    @queeng3475 3 роки тому +1

    Cok beyendim alkislar.... yolunundan sasmiz bir insanin hikayesini algiladim ben... 🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @nur14003
    @nur14003 2 роки тому +1

    Tek kelimeyle "MUHTEŞEM"👏👏👏

  • @claudiareginapedro8832
    @claudiareginapedro8832 2 роки тому +3

    LINDÍSSIMO !!!!!

  • @melissagLove
    @melissagLove Рік тому +1

    This is so beautiful 😍.. thinking about Rumi

  • @riverdweller5105
    @riverdweller5105 6 років тому +12

    Amazing! It looks like the skirts are alive!

  • @notisgarcia6086
    @notisgarcia6086 7 років тому +6

    we all love them. ;)

  • @lounagal2959
    @lounagal2959 6 років тому +4

    Magnifique !

  • @soeyehtet902
    @soeyehtet902 3 роки тому +1

    Mevlevi whirling is more than a show

  • @alessandradasilva7727
    @alessandradasilva7727 Рік тому

    Achei lindo!!! 👏👏👏🤩

  • @mariageraldiagallardo1201
    @mariageraldiagallardo1201 6 місяців тому

    Deeply BEAUTIFUL, DIVINE, MAGICAL...In Love!!❤❤❤

  • @jkul
    @jkul 7 років тому +5

    Bravo!!!

  • @iwonamaecka5798
    @iwonamaecka5798 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic ❤❤❤❤❤💖💖💖💖💖🌼🌼🌼🙏🙏🙏

  • @kanetsb
    @kanetsb Рік тому +1

    How are these guys not puking around the stage or just stumbling head first into some speakers... Insane. I get dizzy after 5 spins.

  • @DarknessBlossoms
    @DarknessBlossoms 7 років тому +40

    I think I'm going to become a Sufi
    Or more accurately a mystical dancer

    • @aestheticman2662
      @aestheticman2662 4 роки тому +3

      Nowadays-unfortunately-Sufi "dance" (in fact, it is NOT a form of dance) is equals to belly dance. Feel free to choose either or both since there is no difference between these two anymore. It's a shame!

    • @MasterSandeep-r3y
      @MasterSandeep-r3y 2 місяці тому +1

      Read rumi n observe Sufism n forget rest of the noice from others

  • @karinevalerie3482
    @karinevalerie3482 6 років тому +3

    Que C'est Beau!!!!

  • @simsekyuksek6096
    @simsekyuksek6096 3 роки тому +2

    Taklit ve Soytarılık

  • @Fogaata
    @Fogaata Рік тому

    Beautiful spiritual expression!

  • @Mehr-Bano
    @Mehr-Bano 7 років тому +4

    Beautiful

  • @hayrunisatokcan9871
    @hayrunisatokcan9871 2 роки тому +1

    Harika. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @anamakalatia3607
    @anamakalatia3607 3 місяці тому

    How beautiful

  • @domdom5964
    @domdom5964 6 років тому +4

    Très beau 👍

  • @candlemxi
    @candlemxi 2 роки тому +1

    Magnifique❤

  • @AziizaAbdulmalik6546
    @AziizaAbdulmalik6546 3 роки тому +5

    What form of dance is this? It's truly beautiful!💖

    • @nurcahyaningrum
      @nurcahyaningrum 3 роки тому +1

      turkey

    • @dcemp4623
      @dcemp4623 3 роки тому +1

      Sufism, Turkey, Mevlâna.

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому +1

      @@dcemp4623 Sufism and Mevlana comes from the Persian Iranian culture not Turkey or Turks. A simple google research will give you the right information.

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому +1

      This is Persian Sufism dance.

    • @dcemp4623
      @dcemp4623 2 роки тому +1

      @@LaNa-sz2gb Yes, Konya city is in Iran also, is it?

  • @genovevasotitrova2825
    @genovevasotitrova2825 5 років тому +3

    veri true , he speak abaut speretual roud , abaut this haw societe borken human speret, abaut escape to human in his mind deepley so deeply

  • @vicentezapataorozco6321
    @vicentezapataorozco6321 8 місяців тому

    Lo que es bello puede ser también hermoso y solo se consigue trabajando y esforzándose, excelente trabajo, enhorabuena y muchas felicidades.

  • @johneric040
    @johneric040 7 років тому +3

    speechless

  • @sabrikasik4971
    @sabrikasik4971 3 роки тому

    Adam Harbi dönmüş.

  • @k03dz0n3
    @k03dz0n3 2 роки тому

    incredible.

  • @whiteymcgee3597
    @whiteymcgee3597 2 роки тому +2

    This is no dervish. The dance is more about himself than it is about god.

  • @forkawaza2
    @forkawaza2 2 роки тому

    Amazing

  • @mariaantoniadifelippo9369
    @mariaantoniadifelippo9369 11 місяців тому

    Espetacular.

  • @renanyasaratalay1651
    @renanyasaratalay1651 Рік тому

    Muhteşem👏👏👏👏👏😍😍

  • @zuhalzorluoglu6112
    @zuhalzorluoglu6112 Рік тому

    Muhteşem 🙏

  • @ЮлияКолокольникова-н7ъ

    Спасибо очень красиво 6:36

  • @jakirshekh1935
    @jakirshekh1935 6 років тому +2

    masha Allah

  • @elaghs1504
    @elaghs1504 3 роки тому

    یار مرا غار مرا عشق جگرخوار مرا
    یار تویی غار تویی خواجه نگه دار مرا

  • @lisabaltzer4190
    @lisabaltzer4190 Рік тому

    Do any Dervishes turn in a clockwise direction.

  • @uliaona
    @uliaona 2 роки тому

    Endless...

  • @yasserhabbal174
    @yasserhabbal174 3 роки тому

    So beautiful

  • @gabrielar7705
    @gabrielar7705 2 роки тому

    Can somebody tell me who is performing the music? Is mesmerising beautiful

    • @hllecz
      @hllecz 2 роки тому

      Fazıl say- insan insan

  • @morcansk
    @morcansk 5 місяців тому

    Прелестно.только обьясните кто нибуть как правильно правая рука сверху или левая в начале ,у всех по разному.Или все равно?

  • @xSirenityx
    @xSirenityx 5 років тому

    Mevlana

  • @verstrahlt1907
    @verstrahlt1907 Рік тому

    interesting dance; I want to
    see another one with: pizza
    dough instead of two skirts

  • @mahaal_takrouri1486
    @mahaal_takrouri1486 5 років тому +1

    A.Z.Azizi ? Anyone ?

  • @artoflivingbybe8221
    @artoflivingbybe8221 2 роки тому

    Bu video Nefesimi aliyor? Baskasina oluyormu?

  • @christonaydenov6732
    @christonaydenov6732 2 роки тому

    She went there.

  • @zeenaeem1
    @zeenaeem1 4 роки тому +15

    I’m pretty sure these dances are in praise and amazement of Almighty God. Taking his shirt off and dancing the way he does brings a lot of attention to himself and his physical attributes. May God guide him.

    • @user-Dunarak
      @user-Dunarak 4 роки тому +4

      Couldn’t agree more. He took something so pure, so intimate, so precious like this type of direct connection with God and turned it into this commercialized, politicized BS!!!! All for money!

    • @croguy
      @croguy 3 роки тому +4

      That judgement comes from you. Not from him.
      Peace out!

    • @atamizindeyiz963
      @atamizindeyiz963 3 роки тому

      @lovelock 👏👏👏

  • @hannahmela3629
    @hannahmela3629 5 років тому

    Çok guzel

  • @MrMikamaki
    @MrMikamaki 3 роки тому

    This is exactomundo dervish style. What Burqa?

  • @jphmz
    @jphmz 11 місяців тому

  • @HajirahMahmood
    @HajirahMahmood 7 років тому +3

    what's the music about ? anyone tell please

    • @universitemedya
      @universitemedya 7 років тому +2

      Fazıl Say - insan insan / Muhyİddİn Abdal

    • @HajirahMahmood
      @HajirahMahmood 7 років тому

      EMEL KARAMAN I didn't get it . whether it's انسان ( in urdu) r some other language?

    • @DarknessBlossoms
      @DarknessBlossoms 7 років тому +3

      Hajirah Mahmood It's Turkish

    • @HajirahMahmood
      @HajirahMahmood 7 років тому

      Doc _ Code thanks

    • @HajirahMahmood
      @HajirahMahmood 7 років тому +1

      Bay Lagaam oh yeah !!! I knew that. But i didn't think over that .
      Thanks 😊

  • @LittleMatchGrrl
    @LittleMatchGrrl 6 років тому +6

    This took my breath away. Someone please tell me what this song is and where I can find it.

  • @Baskan2023
    @Baskan2023 3 роки тому

    Helal başkan!

  • @swaminijen
    @swaminijen 4 роки тому

    WOW

  • @fighter970
    @fighter970 3 роки тому

    Adam dönmekten başka bir şey yapmadı ama o da birşey!!!

    • @s.oztekin6032
      @s.oztekin6032 3 роки тому +2

      Güneş dönüyor, ay dönüyor, dünya dönüyor. Evrene bakın her şey dönüyor...Ve müslümanlar yönünü Kabe'ye dönüyor. Her şeyin bir dönüşümü var. Bütün sır bu dönüşümlerde galiba... Dönmeyince gezegenler yaşam bitiyor.İnsan da öyle döne döne, savrularak bitiyor hayatımız...
      Üzerimizi de bir avuç toprak örtüyor... 🥀

  • @El111geliyooo
    @El111geliyooo 3 роки тому

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @fatmaunal9342
    @fatmaunal9342 3 роки тому

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏♥️

  • @nerimanzerzavatci477
    @nerimanzerzavatci477 6 років тому +14

    dervish yes , but what is this? goster is? is this for tourists? not a realistic view of the real purpose of the dervish sufi,

    • @beatriceterrasse1122
      @beatriceterrasse1122 6 років тому +12

      Hello. I had a masterclass with this man, you're right, he's not a Sufi dancer, he's a contemporary dancer and uses the dervish principe to create. He has no mystical claim. The work with him was very interesting !! He doesn't dance for tourists, neither in religious places but for people interested by contempory dance.

    • @lujesus9345
      @lujesus9345 5 років тому

      @@beatriceterrasse1122 oh ok.he is very good

  • @schism206
    @schism206 6 років тому +2

    Must get dizzy

  • @latishabrown801
    @latishabrown801 7 років тому +1

    😢😢😍😍😍👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Ioana3311
    @Ioana3311 6 років тому +1

    I want this song pls. Later I will ask about dancer too... :)

  • @zekbay6492
    @zekbay6492 3 роки тому

    👍💖👏👏

  • @r.r.7800
    @r.r.7800 7 років тому +3

    wth why is he showing his arwa ?
    I gotta be lowering my gaze mA

    • @mohammadabd7474
      @mohammadabd7474 6 років тому +1

      Rhiannon Ritchie i didn’t get it also
      He break Maulana rules in the dance

    • @CtlinMunteanu
      @CtlinMunteanu 5 років тому +2

      can you explain more about arwa and Maulana rules please?

  • @alexagenon
    @alexagenon 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know what song this is?

    • @dcemp4623
      @dcemp4623 3 роки тому +1

      Insan Insan By Fazıl Say

  • @mohideenmeeran7002
    @mohideenmeeran7002 4 роки тому +1

    This song feels like out of Schindler's list

  • @lisabaltzer4190
    @lisabaltzer4190 Рік тому

    Isn’t this unique to Turkey? I could be wrong about that though.

  • @Mustafamustafa-vi4eg
    @Mustafamustafa-vi4eg 3 роки тому +3

    Tüm dünyanın övgü ile bahsettiği tasavvuf müziği eşliğinde yapılan semazen gösterisini maalesef bizim topraklarımıza has olanı bizim eleştirmemiz gerçekten çok saçma neymiş yarı çıplakmış böylesine geri kalmışlık bizi ileriye değil geriye götürür. Bu semazen gösterisi yeni olan birşey değil böylesine açıklama ve zamanlaması düşündürücü

    • @sulhakanzeren2350
      @sulhakanzeren2350 2 роки тому

      çıplak geldik dunyaya yine ciplak gideceğiz..

    • @EmircanH
      @EmircanH 2 роки тому +1

      Mevlana olsa alkışlıcak mıydı?

    • @aaaa_10
      @aaaa_10 Рік тому

      Bu gericilik değil o zaman İslam da gerici senin gözünde? İnsanlar semazen gösterisini hep İslami bir değer olarak benimsediği için bunun İslamda ZİNA günahıyla birleştirilmesini istemiyor. Gerçi erkeklere tesettür alt vücut içindir ama 🤔. Ben yaşadığımız dönem içinde sadece İslamı yaşamak için bile binbir eziyete aşağılamaya maruz kalan insanların böyle sert tepkiler vermesini o kadar iyi anlıyorum ki. Ama siz asla empati yapmayın hep siz haklısınız zaten. 👍 Böyle işiniz zor...

    • @aaaa_10
      @aaaa_10 Рік тому

      AYRICA BÜTÜN DÜNYA DEĞİL EVREN BEĞENSE KAÇ YAZAR? BU BİZİM DEĞERİMİZ ONLARIN DEĞİL! DEĞERİMİZİ BİZ NOTLARIZ ANCAK. BIRAKIN BİR ŞEY DE İÇİNİZE DÖNÜN BAŞKA KÜLTÜRLERİ TOPLULUKLARI MEMNUN ETMEYE ÇALIŞMAYIN BİR KEREDE!

    • @Mustafamustafa-vi4eg
      @Mustafamustafa-vi4eg Рік тому

      @@aaaa_10 şu yazdığın yazıyı tekrar okurmusun ben ne söylüyorum sen ne anlatıyorsun hemen din ile nasıl bağdaştırdın anlamadım bu toprkalarda hiç Bir Zaman dinini yaşayana Zorluk çıkarılmadı uzun uzun yazarım da anlayacağını sanmıyorum şimdi sen tesettüre getirirsin olayı tesettür hıristiyanlığın benimsediği olaydır dinimizde tesettür kavramı yoktur elinin altında İnternet diye yüz yılın mucizesi var açık kaynaklardan araştır ama yanlı yayın yapanların yazdıklarını değil diğer kaynaklara bak 😉

  • @sevimyldz4798
    @sevimyldz4798 3 роки тому

    👏👏👏👏👣❤

  • @snjezanavujnovac4959
    @snjezanavujnovac4959 6 років тому +1

    SAVRŠENSTVO

  • @artoflivingbybe8221
    @artoflivingbybe8221 2 роки тому

    Yani ne diyim anlatamam soz olamsi!

  • @baharsafari8653
    @baharsafari8653 4 роки тому +3

    It's a Persian dance

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому

      Yes it’s Persian Sufism dance

  • @thorboy666
    @thorboy666 4 роки тому +3

    True islam

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому

      This is Persian Sufism culture not “true Islam”

    • @EmircanH
      @EmircanH 2 роки тому

      @@LaNa-sz2gb this is not persian culture. Its written in Musnad by ibn hanbal, Tirmidhi(?) etc. that the sahabas whirled when they were happy

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому +1

      @@EmircanH This is Persian mysticism, go and educate yourself before you talk and stop stealing other peoples culture. It existed long before Islam and your ''Musnad by ibn hanbal, Tirmidhi'' and ''sahabas''. It started from the mystical Zoroastrian traditions of the Persian Empire and today also synonyms into Sufism bc of the Islamization of Perisa. It belongs to the Persian culture according to scholarly and history.

    • @EmircanH
      @EmircanH 2 роки тому

      @@LaNa-sz2gb can you say one source, where it says that zoroastrians did this? You can educate me

    • @LaNa-sz2gb
      @LaNa-sz2gb 2 роки тому

      @@EmircanH Lmao It's not my fault you are uneducated. It's not my responsible to educate you, i'm neither your teacher or your parents. You are free to educate yourself. Embarrassing

  • @الصمتلغةالعضماء-م1ي

    انا بهدي دروشتك كلها وبرميها علي اللي باعك انا هشام مهدي 🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🗽

  • @hmaljutaily
    @hmaljutaily 4 роки тому

    So graceful...but I felt dissy.