I think this is actually a pretty smart move from Canon. Especially in these times where it is SO difficult to get your hands on a camlink or pretty much any capture card, I think it was well strategically planned.
@@justkidd1980 I use Nikon for photography. They're not technically the best, but man they just make the best looking photos now days. I use Panasonic for content creation.
Nice video Harris, particularly the USB vs HDMi comparison with the same camera. I tried it with a UA-cam live stream on Friday night using an EOS R and RF 15-35mm f2.8 and wondered if it was the USB or my reduced internet bandwidth that was holding it back to 480p, but it still looked pretty good - AND of course was effectively free of charge. I've posted the live replay on my channel if you're interested.
I really like this channel mate, I have followed this channel for a long time now and you make really good tips for small and big streamers out there, GREAT JOB!
Just so you know, USB-C isn't automatically "better" than USB 2.0 C refers to the physical connector, and 2.0 refers to the speed/version of the protocol. There's plenty of devices out there that have a type-c connector but it still only supports USB 2.0 speeds. Folks make sure you do your homework and double check what you're getting.
@@Sebass_TV Yep the signal is super clean and autofocus works like a charm! The only problem is that since it's in beta, it isn't fully optimized and it can be a little choppy at times, which Harris already detailed.
@@Sebass_TV And about the battery life, it really depends on what camera model you have and how new your battery is, but my EOS Rebel T7 can last for several hours with no problem.
Hi Duff, Just a rapid question as I'm on a Mac and the software is not available yet (hope this will be very soon !!). Can you tell me if while you're using this new piece of software you have the ability to adjust the camera settings (ie. shutter speed, ISO and, aperture) in real time ? I'm using right now a Canon M50 as my webcam, using "Camera Live" and "CamTwist", and my main problem is to control the camera settings. Despite I'm on Manual mode on my camera, the flipscreen is turned off when activating "Camera live" and I can't adjust the settings if my light is changing (I got a large window next to me, and sometimes, the weather gets cloudy, and my picture turns to dark because of the camera setting beeing fixed by the manual mode !) If the Canon software give the ability to control the camera settings in real time .. that would be a HUUUUUGE deal !
RIP. Literally just got an EOSR and Camlink this past week 😩 I’m in the same boat - love my Canons and opted to stay in the family so opted for the Camlink route. But you know - silver lining - this means I can use my other cameras so -- multicam setup here I come?
No, the USB feed has poor quality. It’s a shame to reduce quality at the source like that. It’s ok if you don’t have a capture card. But if you do, you can even get 4K24
so this might solve issues with the lack of camlink availability for the time being, and give you a good vlog cam as well. Hopefully resolution and framerate issues are fixed, but this seems like a good step forward. Maybe Canon eventually moves into the straight webcam space now?
I purchased the Avermedia Lite a week ago to get my SL2 working as a webcam and now its come I'm going to send it back! The EOS Webcam utility has no latency using OBS where as the aver media had to be set to 700ms to match the audio. Also the quality is no different at all and much better than my C920 i had been using. This is brilliant!!
Downloaded this as soon as it came out to test on a Zoom call! Literally every call I have people comment on the quality and how I have a real microphone LMAO
I bought my Canon M50 on sale probably about the same time this video came out. I just started streaming last month and have been looking into streaming camera recommendations. This video was seriously encouraging.
I was only able to get the white version of the newly released Logitech webcam, brand new. I had to order directly from the Logitech website but I got it in about a week. That camera was not my first choice but it was the only one I could find new without price gouging. I already have Canon cameras but using a capture card and all the wiring, etc is a real hassle. I'm a teacher so I need to set up and tear down often right now. I NEEDED a webcam so I bought that one. Too bad they didn't roll this Canon beta out to Macs. I was a really excited about it when I read an article announcing this early this morning but then of course I read the fine print. 😬
@@extranosense9553 It's not just webcams... Dummy batteries, elgato cam links, any kind of capture card... Pretty much anything to do with broadcasting from home is hard to find or it's overpriced.
You can almost do this direct with newer Sony’s, via their software ‘Imaging Edge’. It is a window cap of their utility, which can be cropped, but nonetheless can connect with only USB. They have a list of compatible devices on the site.
When i saw my camera on there the canon 4000d/ Eos Rebel T100 i almost cried as ive been trying to connect it to the out-dated canon utilities which doesn't work in my case im so glad canon is finally taking action on this :D
But there’s a problem for continuous use on 4000d. BATTERY! Even if you go for a external power adapter, there is no way to close the battery door and thus, that can’t be used. You need to drill a hole for that. :(
Harris! Just swinging by to say THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I have a 550d and I've been running the usual EOS utility-obs window capture route to make it work, it was a HUGE pain, and took a solid 20- 25% of my CPU to run. Choked my single PC setup to a point where it was just not feasible for me. Lucky for me, your video popped up on my feed, and now I'm directly running my 550d straight to OBS. Love ya! Heads up to everyone who's running old Canon cameras: The beta software WORKS! Just download the driver closest to your model, and hope it turns on!
Ok I have a sl2. What I like is that you don’t have to remove the icons from the turn screen. The software makes it clean. Which means for my camera the auto focus can be used. Thanx for the info!
@@412foto Seems to actually be 64-bit Windows 10 only, if I saw the list correctly. Checked on a family member's Win 8 PC and the software download options didn't include the Webcam software at all.
Great info here! 9:15 - I can say from experience that the Canon M6 Mark II does overheat after about an hour of continuous recording. That’s the only canon camera I’ve ever experienced that with, though.
Some things to bear in mind; with a capture card/camlink the added hardware is doing the rendering. With an app it's your CPU and it can hit HARD. I used to simply screencapture the normal EOS app and it took up *20%* of my 6600k's CPU alone! So you would only want to go with a software solution if you have a beefy CPU and if you can afford a beefy CPU, chances are you can afford a camlink anyway. Another thing to bear in mind, because it's software based a lot more data is being pulled through the USB hub (a hub isn't always external, EG. the USB ports on the front of your PC is a separate hub to the ones at the back). A USB hub can only handle so much data - that's one of the reason you're frequently advised to have only one video device in one hub at a time otherwise they bottleneck and render the other ports useless (in laymen's terms) Source: me, I work in IT tech, i'm also a streamer using a Canon 80d and a camlink that has extensively tested this (to see if it was worth saving £120 on a camlink). Hope this helps with folks making purchase decisions! Oh and if you do go with a camlink by the way; still avoid canon. I love my 80d, but their "clean HDMI" is only clean in manual focus. If you put it into auto focus you'll get the focus reticle that can not be removed. Meaning you're limited to manual focus and have to set the focus every time you turn on the camera and depending on the lens you use you won't have much freedom to lean forward/back without becoming blurred.
@@nateman10 Not sure what region you're in but it's currently available on Amazon US and a few online stores in the UK. Depending on where you are it might be worth paying a lil' extra for international shipping. I'm in the UK and sometimes use German Amazon for example. As i said before I would avoid Canon for streaming. You can't use auto-focus through the HDMI out, unless you want your viewers to see a constant white box around your face. Being limited to manual focus on streams is a pain. When it comes to how much you spend on a camera, generally as long as it can do 1080 or 4k at 60fps you're fine. The *lens* is what is important. What lens you want varies from person to person, how much space you have to move the camera back/forward and the sort of look you want. Ultimately it depends on your budget, patience and what literal room you have to play with.
Harris - I appreciate all the info on your channel. It's been really helpful as I try to make up lost ground in figuring out all the tech stuff the quarantine's forced me to finally learn. I've been teaching drum lessons online for years as a side to my "live" teaching, but just started streaming (from absolute scratch) a month ago. Your tips and input are well-organized and right to the point. Keep up the good work, man!
Chris Rios closest thing I found was him discussing it being free but mentioning still working with UA-cam and Twitch to haven it not muted during playbacks...
I have terrible stutter with EOS M50 - either with the EOS Webcam BETA, or with EOS Utility live view - or with SparkoCam for that matter. Didn't quite figure out what the problem could be - checked it on various configurations of PCs. It must be the USB cable :D
Been using a Canon camera on my stream for about a year now. The work around without a camlink is to just buy a Sparkocam license and it let's you get a clean output at full 1080p 60fps inside of OBS. Really cool to hear about the software though!
@@jaykadlec I've seen it before, but it's basically doing the same thing that the new EOS webcam app does. Who needs a 3rd party (payed) app when we got a free one designed by the retailer?
I just want to say that your UA-cam videos are really good and inspired to do it. You have help me find the right equipment and hopefully I can put the work and grow. Trying to always improve everyday. Thank you harry
Okay so I just have one question. Can now the dslr camera be powered through USB? Cause that would be amazing since I want to start using my canon as my webcam but I don't have that stupid dummy battery yet.
i have the m50 as well. Do you get clean HDMI with it while streaming? i cant seem to. a lot of people are suggesting other software's to help with, it i think one was sparkocam.
I have a M50 as well with the 22mm. Since no Mac beta, what’s the solution to use autofocus “without” the focusing box on your face? Tired of going manual focus.
Thank You Harris! I was so thrilled to hear this...Testing on twitch and Facebook today on StreamYard. I workout/train on Twitch so tell you what it’s like with movement. Was so excited to get the Canon GX7 Mark III however ...ALL REVIEWS neglected to mention the 1,000 UA-cam subscriber limit! So no live-streaming with my Canon 🙁 (then to do that I had to buy a Camlink, cords etc etc... $400 extra later AUD🤯).
Have you heard or do you think that they might support a Canon 5d mark ii? Older camera but has usb. Or it would be great that they just unlock it for streaming with clean hdmi output.
Sony have this function a while back, it's called Imaging Edge Desktop. You can only use it on newer Sony Alpha cameras (A6300 and up) that support display live view. Just fyi for Sony users watching this video.
I thought this was just for remote shooting/tethering. Are you sure it can be use the camera as a webcam as well? (live view shooting is not the same as webcam support)
YO THE ALPHA GAMING CHANNEL IS THE BEST Harris has taught me everything I need to know he has help me grow so fast just by watching his videos, I never thought I would be where I’m at on twitch and UA-cam all thanks to this CHANNEL much love really!!!
Ikaika Lee I’m just starting out too. Even made a discord because I’m confident I’ll meet people who’ll become gaming buddies and hopeful enough to have a community that wants to be a part of my discord 😝
Sadly at this point the software does not work with Vixia cameras and definitely not with my Digital Rebel XT (350D). I don't think that one will even output video through the USB cable.
Make sure you're closed out of the EOS utility app - then because it will stay running in the background - open Activity monitor and quit the process. :) Cheers!
Thanks Harris, I haven't uploaded too many new stream setup videos for SteamLabs but I may need to setup my Canon T6I I have laying around and see how it works with this. Thanks again!
I looked to see if you did an update to this, to see if the quality got better, but I didn't see one. It would be cool to get a short update on the progress of the utility. No I don't have a DSLR at the moment, but I've been considering getting one.
I know everyone loves there DSLRs, but this would be an amazing thing for Gopro to do. Imagine being able to use your Gopro as a webcam. They are easy to mount and have buttery smooth video.
I use my Gopro Hero 7 Black as a secondary webcam (top down perspective) in my live DJ streams. The GoPro has to connect to my Elgato HD60S card first and then OBS Link has to be active and boom! Shows up in OBS Studio as an NDI source on my MAC!
I use a CamLink on an EOS-R and just the fact that this supports output from the USB-C port is enough for me. The HDMI-mini port is very touchy and I'm glad to see them come out with this. Hopefully they release it for Mac as I use my EOS-R for video calls and things outside of gaming on a PC.
Because camera companies make hardware, not software. If camera companies would boost r&d in software development or team with a good software company, things like this wouldn’t seem to take forever for camera companies to catch on to. I wouldn’t call it deliberate, more like “ignorance”. Holding out to charge more isn’t exclusive to just cameras though. That’s just market in general.
you can already use a lot of sony cameras as a webcam (I use rx100 and a7riii), you just need to use sony imaging remote app + obs studio + webcam plugin.
@@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh yup, I use it for google meet and hangouts. In the google settings, I select OBS camera 1 (or whatever your obs output is) for the camera source. I don't use the other messengers, but I'd assume that as long as they can find the OBS output source, you should be able to use the sony camera as a webcam. As far as I know, whatsapp-web doesn't let desktop users use voice and/or video calling... unless there is a way.
I’ve been using the weblink but it doesn’t seem to work on my Mac with any of my cameras, a friend is having the same issue. It does however work with windows. After watching this I did opt for the cam link which is back in stock and currently only £89 on Amazon prime. Just looks slightly better
I am using the software now. I bought myself for Mother's Day. My old camera is a Canon EOS Rebel T3 This gave me the incentive to upgrade for my stream from the webcam. I bought a Canon Rebel 7. So much clarity over the webcam.
Just getting into streaming, so I've been binge watching your content today. But I just so happened to have picked up a Canon m50 a few months ago, but WOW, to hear you say the set up I run is what you recommend...it's amazing. Thanks so much.
GREAT Video!! Just wanted to give you some info. I have been using my M50 for live streams with Sparko Cam (Paid app) It strips the info out of the video feed. One thing that annoyed me with it was the jerky video. I did a side by side comparison with the Canon utility an it is actually less jerky than the sparko cam app. I am excited to see where this goes! I have M6Markii and can now use BOTH for a multi cam live stream!! Game changer!! Might pick up a M200 as it looks really good too! Thanks for the info!! Not a gamer but still love all the info you provide!! 👍🍻
Have there been any updates on the software? Possibly post a video with the updated software if it’s out there. I’m currently looking at getting an M50.
My pops got an EOS 7D way back in college when doing his multimedia degree and needed it for filming and photography. Now it's collecting dust because my dad moved on to smartphones because apparently they 1upped the camera and the 7D is now collecting dust. Finding out about this makes me wanna bring back that hand-me-down mindset my dad gave me with pc builds when growing up and actually make use of this.
Tried this. Works! Thanks! One question - In your 5 hour test video was your camera display on? I can't get my to turn off. Not sure if that will damage the camera by overheating... to stay on a max of 2 hours for my stream? My Display does not flip out. Thanks again!
I like the idea, and kudos to Canon for doing this! I did a test to see how long my EOS M200 would run until the overheating warning, and it ran for 35 min in a room with 27C/80F ambient temp. Hopefully, there will be some optimisations in the driver that will enable it to run for longer, but the problem is as you mention in the video, that the camera has to do alot of processing to output the video via USB, and that will create extra heat to dissipate.
@Alpha Gaming I have a 6D Mark II and I can disable the automatic shut off that the camera does in the menu. I was able to turn off the overlays on the LCD screen by pressing INFO, turned off the grid lines from the menu and switched to manual focus. That might work with Cam Link so you can at least get the 1080p?
Thanks for this video! My wife and I just tested this with an EOS 5D Mk ii (6D Mk ii software as nothing for 5D ii yet) using A/V out (not HDMI) and it works great, even at 1080 60 FPS. Will be purchasing HDMI out cable for the camera to see how it goes.
Harris! Loving the music on Spotify! Great thinking! Great sound! Really helping keep my stream interesting! Today while listening I noticed a few songs that cut off about 1 minute before the end of the song! Just wanted to bring it to your attention! Thank you so much for making music and streaming mesh so well!
OMG, I can't thank you enough for this Harris. I've been using the Canon utility 3's remote live view window as window capture of my canon 77D and that was taking quite a bit of CPU. This thing is a game-changer for me. I tested this and it works perfectly on default settings of video device capture. No shutter no lag. And, thanks a ton for making such videos.
Is this enough to get you to choose canon? What do you want out of a camera?
I want a perfect quality on a camera.👌👌👌👌
Is this available to use in BETA currently? i didnt see a link in the description
I have an M50 and was really not looking forward to the CamLInk. Now I don't have to worry and that's such a relief.
Canon m50!
Bro,it can help me very much cause i was overbudget for my gaming setup.
I think this is actually a pretty smart move from Canon. Especially in these times where it is SO difficult to get your hands on a camlink or pretty much any capture card, I think it was well strategically planned.
This is awesome. Being a Canon user this is huge!
“Nikon doesn’t even know it exists” ded 🤣
I like nikon for the 1 reason that the lens mount hasn't changed from body to body.
@@justkidd1980 Yeah, I'm with you!
Would be nice if they could add webcam functionality, tho.
@@justkidd1980 I use Nikon for photography. They're not technically the best, but man they just make the best looking photos now days. I use Panasonic for content creation.
You can use sparkocam to do Nikon as USB webcam
@@EdwardDelaTorre thank you. I will give it a try.
Nice video Harris, particularly the USB vs HDMi comparison with the same camera. I tried it with a UA-cam live stream on Friday night using an EOS R and RF 15-35mm f2.8 and wondered if it was the USB or my reduced internet bandwidth that was holding it back to 480p, but it still looked pretty good - AND of course was effectively free of charge. I've posted the live replay on my channel if you're interested.
PUMPED someone finally did this, and double pumped it’s canon! I just picked up a used m50, can’t wait to test this out!
YuB it woks great.
I really like this channel mate, I have followed this channel for a long time now and you make really good tips for small and big streamers out there, GREAT JOB!
Past Harris: Nobodys innovating anymore. We need new stream stuff!
Canon: o rly?
Watched til the end and saw you are using the EF-M 22mm F2 lens. Thank you! (Sorry for all the comments)
Is that a good lans for m200
@Sweener i though sigma 16mm f1.4 was the best
Just so you know, USB-C isn't automatically "better" than USB 2.0
C refers to the physical connector, and 2.0 refers to the speed/version of the protocol.
There's plenty of devices out there that have a type-c connector but it still only supports USB 2.0 speeds. Folks make sure you do your homework and double check what you're getting.
The Wrong Button So many people don’t understand this really simple distinction.
So true. The Canon sl3 has a USB type-c port, but it is only USB 2.0 Compliant.
It was some great news and even better when I was able to use the Tool for an older model camera. 550d the T2i also works
do you know if the 700D works aswell?
Does the t3
@@Bruhhsama Yes a guy with a T3 left a comment on my video confirming it worked for him.
@@Yingdingdolk Yes it should. Its very easy to check download it and try be sure to come back and confirm for others
thanks for the advise, i have a T5 and it wasn't listed on the supported list
I already had a canon camera that didn't have clean HDMI, and as soon as I got the email from canon about this software I was SO HAPPY!
Duff so on the software the video output is clean and you can still use autofocus?
Duff also how long thill the battery dies
@@Sebass_TV Yep the signal is super clean and autofocus works like a charm! The only problem is that since it's in beta, it isn't fully optimized and it can be a little choppy at times, which Harris already detailed.
@@Sebass_TV And about the battery life, it really depends on what camera model you have and how new your battery is, but my EOS Rebel T7 can last for several hours with no problem.
Hi Duff, Just a rapid question as I'm on a Mac and the software is not available yet (hope this will be very soon !!). Can you tell me if while you're using this new piece of software you have the ability to adjust the camera settings (ie. shutter speed, ISO and, aperture) in real time ? I'm using right now a Canon M50 as my webcam, using "Camera Live" and "CamTwist", and my main problem is to control the camera settings. Despite I'm on Manual mode on my camera, the flipscreen is turned off when activating "Camera live" and I can't adjust the settings if my light is changing (I got a large window next to me, and sometimes, the weather gets cloudy, and my picture turns to dark because of the camera setting beeing fixed by the manual mode !)
If the Canon software give the ability to control the camera settings in real time .. that would be a HUUUUUGE deal !
RIP. Literally just got an EOSR and Camlink this past week 😩 I’m in the same boat - love my Canons and opted to stay in the family so opted for the Camlink route. But you know - silver lining - this means I can use my other cameras so -- multicam setup here I come?
No, the USB feed has poor quality. It’s a shame to reduce quality at the source like that. It’s ok if you don’t have a capture card. But if you do, you can even get 4K24
@@rafbass Yeah the canon webcam utility is 520p and disconnects every 10 seconds or so, it's bad.
so this might solve issues with the lack of camlink availability for the time being, and give you a good vlog cam as well. Hopefully resolution and framerate issues are fixed, but this seems like a good step forward. Maybe Canon eventually moves into the straight webcam space now?
I doubt it, since they have fairly cheap cameras with interchangeable lenses that can double as a webcam. Just get a nice lens with a cheap body.
I purchased the Avermedia Lite a week ago to get my SL2 working as a webcam and now its come I'm going to send it back! The EOS Webcam utility has no latency using OBS where as the aver media had to be set to 700ms to match the audio. Also the quality is no different at all and much better than my C920 i had been using. This is brilliant!!
i still can't get used to "every Monday, Wednesday, Saturday"
Pinstryp what you mean you can’t get used to it?
@@slickspidey Used to be Monday, Wednesday, Friday back in my day.
SAME "MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY"
Downloaded this as soon as it came out to test on a Zoom call! Literally every call I have people comment on the quality and how I have a real microphone LMAO
I bought my Canon M50 on sale probably about the same time this video came out. I just started streaming last month and have been looking into streaming camera recommendations. This video was seriously encouraging.
Literally was just today looking at a camcorder since this webcam shortage has people charging 200$ for a c920 or waiting over a month + to ship
A5100, dummy battery, and a camlink will run you a pretty penny compared to a $200 C920 and some wait time lol
@@FiSHY4D you are not the only one who wants a camlink. They are sold out everywere here in Europe.
i just checked and holy shit you're right
I was only able to get the white version of the newly released Logitech webcam, brand new. I had to order directly from the Logitech website but I got it in about a week. That camera was not my first choice but it was the only one I could find new without price gouging. I already have Canon cameras but using a capture card and all the wiring, etc is a real hassle. I'm a teacher so I need to set up and tear down often right now. I NEEDED a webcam so I bought that one. Too bad they didn't roll this Canon beta out to Macs. I was a really excited about it when I read an article announcing this early this morning but then of course I read the fine print. 😬
@@extranosense9553 It's not just webcams... Dummy batteries, elgato cam links, any kind of capture card... Pretty much anything to do with broadcasting from home is hard to find or it's overpriced.
damn...cant find my canon version there....EOS 4000D why is not there
I find it amazing when these companies are so open to you when trying to improve their products
Sir great video! May I ask, what is your audio setup in making this video? Are you using a lapel mic?
You can almost do this direct with newer Sony’s, via their software ‘Imaging Edge’. It is a window cap of their utility, which can be cropped, but nonetheless can connect with only USB. They have a list of compatible devices on the site.
But no sound at all....
@@toxotis70 webcam doesn't need sound
@@toxotis70 doesn't seem like a problem
@@ayflac6153 why ?
I love my Nikon DSLR for still images, but they do seem to be happily inept when it comes to video.
"Nikon doesn't even know it exists"
PENTAX: 'Am I a joke to you?'
Harris doesn't even know Pentax exists :D
Did you ever see the "quality" Pentax have in video? They don't exist in the video realm.
I Have a K5 BTW.
Can you do an Update on this please, now that it has been out a while.
I can confirm that my Canon 60D is showing same 1080p/30 quality as it does in normaly using. Even that its over a 10 years old.
Yes. I want an update on if they were able to up the quality
When i saw my camera on there the canon 4000d/ Eos Rebel T100 i almost cried as ive been trying to connect it to the out-dated canon utilities which doesn't work in my case im so glad canon is finally taking action on this :D
is the 4000d the same as the rebel T100. I am new to all this camera stuff btw but if it is does that mean i can use the rebel t100 on the list?
But there’s a problem for continuous use on 4000d. BATTERY! Even if you go for a external power adapter, there is no way to close the battery door and thus, that can’t be used. You need to drill a hole for that. :(
Harris! Just swinging by to say THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I have a 550d and I've been running the usual EOS utility-obs window capture route to make it work, it was a HUGE pain, and took a solid 20- 25% of my CPU to run. Choked my single PC setup to a point where it was just not feasible for me. Lucky for me, your video popped up on my feed, and now I'm directly running my 550d straight to OBS. Love ya!
Heads up to everyone who's running old Canon cameras: The beta software WORKS! Just download the driver closest to your model, and hope it turns on!
Canon G7X Mark iii still has some major overheating issues.
I heard video autofocus is the problem and the reason many people won't choose it.
Ok I have a sl2. What I like is that you don’t have to remove the icons from the turn screen. The software makes it clean. Which means for my camera the auto focus can be used. Thanx for the info!
Really hoping they'll have a MacOS version soon as well.
PC only? bummer
Probably next year.
@@412foto Seems to actually be 64-bit Windows 10 only, if I saw the list correctly.
Checked on a family member's Win 8 PC and the software download options didn't include the Webcam software at all.
Canon said they're definitely releasing a Mac version too... just surprised they didn't release both at the same time.
Yes, complete bullshit.
Yay!!!!! All my cameras are Canons!!!!!! Thanks for the information! Just found your channel!
I saw my Camera listed and all I am going to say is. game changer. Thank you so much for this amazing update.
Great info here! 9:15 - I can say from experience that the Canon M6 Mark II does overheat after about an hour of continuous recording. That’s the only canon camera I’ve ever experienced that with, though.
Some things to bear in mind; with a capture card/camlink the added hardware is doing the rendering. With an app it's your CPU and it can hit HARD. I used to simply screencapture the normal EOS app and it took up *20%* of my 6600k's CPU alone! So you would only want to go with a software solution if you have a beefy CPU and if you can afford a beefy CPU, chances are you can afford a camlink anyway.
Another thing to bear in mind, because it's software based a lot more data is being pulled through the USB hub (a hub isn't always external, EG. the USB ports on the front of your PC is a separate hub to the ones at the back). A USB hub can only handle so much data - that's one of the reason you're frequently advised to have only one video device in one hub at a time otherwise they bottleneck and render the other ports useless (in laymen's terms)
Source: me, I work in IT tech, i'm also a streamer using a Canon 80d and a camlink that has extensively tested this (to see if it was worth saving £120 on a camlink).
Hope this helps with folks making purchase decisions!
Oh and if you do go with a camlink by the way; still avoid canon. I love my 80d, but their "clean HDMI" is only clean in manual focus. If you put it into auto focus you'll get the focus reticle that can not be removed. Meaning you're limited to manual focus and have to set the focus every time you turn on the camera and depending on the lens you use you won't have much freedom to lean forward/back without becoming blurred.
@@nateman10 Not sure what region you're in but it's currently available on Amazon US and a few online stores in the UK. Depending on where you are it might be worth paying a lil' extra for international shipping. I'm in the UK and sometimes use German Amazon for example.
As i said before I would avoid Canon for streaming. You can't use auto-focus through the HDMI out, unless you want your viewers to see a constant white box around your face. Being limited to manual focus on streams is a pain.
When it comes to how much you spend on a camera, generally as long as it can do 1080 or 4k at 60fps you're fine. The *lens* is what is important. What lens you want varies from person to person, how much space you have to move the camera back/forward and the sort of look you want.
Ultimately it depends on your budget, patience and what literal room you have to play with.
@@nateman10 And don't be afraid to go used with cameras. Photographers take damn good care of their cameras and buying used saves a LOT of money.
Harris - I appreciate all the info on your channel. It's been really helpful as I try to make up lost ground in figuring out all the tech stuff the quarantine's forced me to finally learn. I've been teaching drum lessons online for years as a side to my "live" teaching, but just started streaming (from absolute scratch) a month ago. Your tips and input are well-organized and right to the point. Keep up the good work, man!
No one
Literally No one:
Harris testing the cam:✌️😗✌️
lmaoooo the perfect emoji combination for that joke
Harris, The link for the utility software is down, did they abandon it or just take it down until full release?
I am curious about this as well, did you find anything out about this?
Chris Rios closest thing I found was him discussing it being free but mentioning still working with UA-cam and Twitch to haven it not muted during playbacks...
I have an m50 and I love it! I would highly recommend the refurbished option available from canon. Picked mine up with a lens for 480
I also use the M50, but when ever I use the Capture Card, my camera seems to freeze after some time
How do you get around the 30 min Timer?
I have terrible stutter with EOS M50 - either with the EOS Webcam BETA, or with EOS Utility live view - or with SparkoCam for that matter. Didn't quite figure out what the problem could be - checked it on various configurations of PCs. It must be the USB cable :D
Haha Canon is my Jam! Glad to see them stepping up!
Been using a Canon camera on my stream for about a year now. The work around without a camlink is to just buy a Sparkocam license and it let's you get a clean output at full 1080p 60fps inside of OBS. Really cool to hear about the software though!
I am still waiting for Canon to release CLEAN HDMI for their Camera's like 80d so that I can start using with my ATEM Mini Pro or CamLink 4K...
the 250D (or SL3) has that clean HDMI output too
We all do bro! We all freaking do!
Checkout this app, it will solve non-clean hdmi issues - Sparkocam
@@pwolfarts Checkout this app, it will solve non-clean hdmi issues - Sparkocam
@@jaykadlec I've seen it before, but it's basically doing the same thing that the new EOS webcam app does. Who needs a 3rd party (payed) app when we got a free one designed by the retailer?
I just want to say that your UA-cam videos are really good and inspired to do it. You have help me find the right equipment and hopefully I can put the work and grow. Trying to always improve everyday. Thank you harry
Okay so I just have one question. Can now the dslr camera be powered through USB? Cause that would be amazing since I want to start using my canon as my webcam but I don't have that stupid dummy battery yet.
Nope. Was sad to see Harris missed this point completely. Unless you have a dummy battery you are limited to the battery.... so not very long
@@RexxReviews Thank you for the reply. I hope they can figure something out in the future
Bah. Of course it supports the g7x mark iii, but not the mark ii. :(
@@russelledgar9097 I have the cannon t6 which is supported but i just get the "EOS webcam utility" logo in OBS...
@@ughneyko same, I also left a comment to see if we can get some clarity. Will let you know.
Good video, on breaking down which specific lenses you use. Very much appreciated!
I have the m50, and it comes with a 15-45mm lens, and the 15mm is still pretty good
Same. Seems like a pretty great camera and this development is really exciting.
That camera is the bomb
i have the m50 as well. Do you get clean HDMI with it while streaming? i cant seem to. a lot of people are suggesting other software's to help with, it i think one was sparkocam.
forget i asked i just downloaded the beta and it give the m50 clean HDMI!!
I have a M50 as well with the 22mm. Since no Mac beta, what’s the solution to use autofocus “without” the focusing box on your face? Tired of going manual focus.
Thank You Harris! I was so thrilled to hear this...Testing on twitch and Facebook today on StreamYard. I workout/train on Twitch so tell you what it’s like with movement. Was so excited to get the Canon GX7 Mark III however ...ALL REVIEWS neglected to mention the 1,000 UA-cam subscriber limit! So no live-streaming with my Canon 🙁 (then to do that I had to buy a Camlink, cords etc etc... $400 extra later AUD🤯).
You said it worked with obs. Does that mean it can be used with streamlabs obs??
yes. It's a video source
Yes it does, I used it for recording! Canon just make life simple
Thanks a lot ! great news. Do you know if they have planned to make a Mac Os Release of this utility ?
Which lens do you use for your M200? I just picked one up for streaming.
Have you heard or do you think that they might support a Canon 5d mark ii? Older camera but has usb. Or it would be great that they just unlock it for streaming with clean hdmi output.
Sony have this function a while back, it's called Imaging Edge Desktop. You can only use it on newer Sony Alpha cameras (A6300 and up) that support display live view. Just fyi for Sony users watching this video.
What about the A5100?
I thought this was just for remote shooting/tethering. Are you sure it can be use the camera as a webcam as well? (live view shooting is not the same as webcam support)
I do not have a Canon but I love the implications that this may bring! Thanks for sharing!
Alpha Gaming - Canon cameras don’t over heat.
Canon R5 - watch this...
You need to do an update on how this software is going since this video as i would like to know if you can do 1080p 60 frames now.
Agree
YO THE ALPHA GAMING CHANNEL IS THE BEST Harris has taught me everything I need to know he has help me grow so fast just by watching his videos, I never thought I would be where I’m at on twitch and UA-cam all thanks to this CHANNEL much love really!!!
Just started out myself. Blessings on your journey !
Ikaika Lee I’m just starting out too. Even made a discord because I’m confident I’ll meet people who’ll become gaming buddies and hopeful enough to have a community that wants to be a part of my discord 😝
Sadly at this point the software does not work with Vixia cameras and definitely not with my Digital Rebel XT (350D). I don't think that one will even output video through the USB cable.
trying the app using my Mac, I cannot see it on OBS ... sad
Make sure you're closed out of the EOS utility app - then because it will stay running in the background - open Activity monitor and quit the process. :) Cheers!
Imagine using a mac
Thanks Harris, I haven't uploaded too many new stream setup videos for SteamLabs but I may need to setup my Canon T6I I have laying around and see how it works with this. Thanks again!
Sony has this now too. I haven't tried it yet but it's called Sony Imaging Edge Webcam.
How about a video comparing the two?
I use the sony software with my Sony A7II and I can confirm that it's really good. Definitely recommend it.
I looked to see if you did an update to this, to see if the quality got better, but I didn't see one. It would be cool to get a short update on the progress of the utility.
No I don't have a DSLR at the moment, but I've been considering getting one.
I know everyone loves there DSLRs, but this would be an amazing thing for Gopro to do. Imagine being able to use your Gopro as a webcam. They are easy to mount and have buttery smooth video.
Maybe someone can tell why they haven't done it yet? Knockoffs have done it from the start xD
I use my Gopro Hero 7 Black as a secondary webcam (top down perspective) in my live DJ streams. The GoPro has to connect to my Elgato HD60S card first and then OBS Link has to be active and boom! Shows up in OBS Studio as an NDI source on my MAC!
I use a CamLink on an EOS-R and just the fact that this supports output from the USB-C port is enough for me. The HDMI-mini port is very touchy and I'm glad to see them come out with this. Hopefully they release it for Mac as I use my EOS-R for video calls and things outside of gaming on a PC.
I'm surprised they didn't release the Mac version at the same time. A large number of creative people use Macs.
Because they really don't care about helping creatives, they just want to call attention and sell more. Tha'ts just crap.
Joe Crescenzi - Learning UA-cam Audio / Video fantasy, pure fantasy
I love this progress but it seems quite shocking that the 1080p 30fps is so...bad!?
Its interesting how long they took to do this though? shows how these camera companies deliberately hold out on us and charge a lot for their items
Because camera companies make hardware, not software. If camera companies would boost r&d in software development or team with a good software company, things like this wouldn’t seem to take forever for camera companies to catch on to. I wouldn’t call it deliberate, more like “ignorance”.
Holding out to charge more isn’t exclusive to just cameras though. That’s just market in general.
does anyone else have a very slight audio lag when using this software through OBS?
Hope SONY does this too, imagine being a high end photographer and getting your A7IV to work as your skype/streaming camera, that would be LIT
you can already use a lot of sony cameras as a webcam (I use rx100 and a7riii), you just need to use sony imaging remote app + obs studio + webcam plugin.
@@jimz987 would that work for Skype, Whatsapp and other video conference call programs?
@@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh yup, I use it for google meet and hangouts. In the google settings, I select OBS camera 1 (or whatever your obs output is) for the camera source. I don't use the other messengers, but I'd assume that as long as they can find the OBS output source, you should be able to use the sony camera as a webcam. As far as I know, whatsapp-web doesn't let desktop users use voice and/or video calling... unless there is a way.
@@jimz987 Okay, thank you, i'll give it a look
Not sure if sparkocam works with sonys but it works with Nikons and canons. It's what I've been using
I’ve been using the weblink but it doesn’t seem to work on my Mac with any of my cameras, a friend is having the same issue.
It does however work with windows.
After watching this I did opt for the cam link which is back in stock and currently only £89 on Amazon prime. Just looks slightly better
hello brother, greetings from Italy in quarantine
ur in quarentine? for real?
Zenaxia why shouldn't I be? they are not above the law
@@LolloIMilanistiOfficial i was being sarcastic my bad my sarcasm is hard to understand over text
I am using the software now. I bought myself for Mother's Day. My old camera is a Canon EOS Rebel T3 This gave me the incentive to upgrade for my stream from the webcam. I bought a Canon Rebel 7. So much clarity over the webcam.
Hmmm surprised my Canon EOS 400D from 2006 isn't on the list 🤔
Its probably the DIGIC chip inside the camera thats the limiting factor. My 1300D (Rebel T6) has a DIGIC 4+ in it, yours has a DIGIC II
John Grundy And whats the difference between these chips? 😅
@@Vanutella They can process a lot faster, to put it shortly.
I didn't actually expect something from so many years ago to work 😂
@alpha Gaming Did you use a dummy adapter for that 5 hours test?
I have a rebel t3i and they dont support. 😤
Can you talk to them about mine. Lol
My 70d says it's not compatible but it works. Just try it anyway!
yeah its gonna be tough on the camera to run while being plugged in, its not recommended because it will burn out the camera
Oof I have a hand me down rebel t2i I feel you
bro, i have canon t3i and it works. i did a test like e hours ago and works nicely. give a try
@@pepepemariano cool, do you think mine would work?
Just getting into streaming, so I've been binge watching your content today. But I just so happened to have picked up a Canon m50 a few months ago, but WOW, to hear you say the set up I run is what you recommend...it's amazing. Thanks so much.
I'm rocking a logitech C615, I'm not jealous at all :P
PolyXeno haha! Me too!!!
GREAT Video!! Just wanted to give you some info. I have been using my M50 for live streams with Sparko Cam (Paid app) It strips the info out of the video feed. One thing that annoyed me with it was the jerky video. I did a side by side comparison with the Canon utility an it is actually less jerky than the sparko cam app. I am excited to see where this goes! I have M6Markii and can now use BOTH for a multi cam live stream!! Game changer!! Might pick up a M200 as it looks really good too! Thanks for the info!! Not a gamer but still love all the info you provide!! 👍🍻
Dang - I literally just way overpaid for a camlink for my EOS R.
Cody Hughes nah u didn’t look at diff bt the software vs camlink. You can tell
It's ok.... just look at the photo quality
Hey Hughes! Do you know how long the battery last when using through USB C?
@@auxide9623 he might have since Canon's is still a beta software. they rushed in developing this because the current market calls for it.
Have there been any updates on the software? Possibly post a video with the updated software if it’s out there. I’m currently looking at getting an M50.
I literally just bought a cam link for my Canon camera. So close.
Sell it on ebay lol
My pops got an EOS 7D way back in college when doing his multimedia degree and needed it for filming and photography. Now it's collecting dust because my dad moved on to smartphones because apparently they 1upped the camera and the 7D is now collecting dust. Finding out about this makes me wanna bring back that hand-me-down mindset my dad gave me with pc builds when growing up and actually make use of this.
I love how hard you nerd. This is 100% my vibe.
Tried this. Works! Thanks! One question - In your 5 hour test video was your camera display on? I can't get my to turn off. Not sure if that will damage the camera by overheating... to stay on a max of 2 hours for my stream? My Display does not flip out. Thanks again!
And soon, that ugly Sparkocam will be dead because of this. 😆
hi thats what iam trying to loose, was about to buy camlink hope mine gets a patch soon
Harris!!! This is such great news! I’ve been shopping for a Camlink (to no avail) so I can use my DSLR to stream with but this is such welcome news!
I wonder if Sony will follow suit :::fingers crossed:::
Imaging Edge Webcam
I like the idea, and kudos to Canon for doing this!
I did a test to see how long my EOS M200 would run until the overheating warning, and it ran for 35 min in a room with 27C/80F ambient temp.
Hopefully, there will be some optimisations in the driver that will enable it to run for longer, but the problem is as you mention in the video, that the camera has to do alot of processing to output the video via USB, and that will create extra heat to dissipate.
My boi still talking about his 60fps footage while exporting his vids in 30fps 💯
they still haven't updated it for discord compatibility :(
Just use OBS and the Virtual Cam plugin.
I hear the “fat lady” singing- literally!!! Oh, wait she is a windows lady
With the 6D Mark II not having clean HDMI, this is amazing for me who got this camera as a hand-me-down.
surely 540p is half the resolution of 1080p
Quarter, pretty much the comparison between 1080p and 2160p.
Can anyone confirm if this Canon EOS Webcam Utility will make the m50's output clean? I know other third party applications can do this. Thanks!
Chase Crossing yes it’s clean
Did you try hitting "info" to switch to clean HDMI?
This works so amazing!!!!! I just started using it yesterday and no complaints at all!!!!! Watch out sony!!!!!!!!!!
@Alpha Gaming I have a 6D Mark II and I can disable the automatic shut off that the camera does in the menu. I was able to turn off the overlays on the LCD screen by pressing INFO, turned off the grid lines from the menu and switched to manual focus. That might work with Cam Link so you can at least get the 1080p?
Thanks for this video! My wife and I just tested this with an EOS 5D Mk ii (6D Mk ii software as nothing for 5D ii yet) using A/V out (not HDMI) and it works great, even at 1080 60 FPS. Will be purchasing HDMI out cable for the camera to see how it goes.
Harris! Loving the music on Spotify! Great thinking! Great sound! Really helping keep my stream interesting! Today while listening I noticed a few songs that cut off about 1 minute before the end of the song! Just wanted to bring it to your attention! Thank you so much for making music and streaming mesh so well!
OMG, I can't thank you enough for this Harris. I've been using the Canon utility 3's remote live view window as window capture of my canon 77D and that was taking quite a bit of CPU. This thing is a game-changer for me. I tested this and it works perfectly on default settings of video device capture. No shutter no lag. And, thanks a ton for making such videos.
Thank you! This opened my eyes to the differences in resolution and frame rate between a USB connection and an HDMI capture card. Excellent.