Tbh you canoe hulls could easily transform into anything (quite versatile starting point). I would say if you wanted to easily change the appearance, the addition of small details like fore/aft castles, superstructure, masts or adding an elevated bridge could spice up your builds. Also, Even though some of your hulls are massive, small details like railings, lifeboats, and engine room air intakes (I usually make them all from decorations) is what can truly bring a build to life. I'd try this out with an existing build to see how you like decorating it: add a perimeter railing, a couple life boats (or RHIBs) and several air intakes on the deck.
6:00 looks like a chubby ironclad battleship hull, like that of HMS Inflexible. Might want to round-off the stern a little, but otherwize good-looking.
Start with something simple, get good at it, and then add some flair to it. All my ships are canoes, with straight-stemmed bows to minimize pitching when underway. I've also got a thing for transom sterns, mostly because it makes the bow look more pointy by comparison. Being obsessed with symmetry and patterns and order in general, I somehow decided that all my hulls would have a draught that's precisely 1/3 of the beam, and a waterline Length-to-Beam ratio of precisely 8:1. Thus I ended up with this: 072x09x03 120x15x05 168x21x07 216x27x09 264x33x11 Aaand those turned out weird, so I started mixing up the numbers, which resulted in some reasonably-proportioned stuff, like a 168x27x09 dreadnought battleship, a 72x15x07 tramp steamer, and a 168x15x05 light cruiser. Still can't build submarines worth a damn.
I have been trying semi-realistic builds using length, width, and armament from real warships, and it seems to have gone somewhat well, but I keep building armoured cruisers instead of anything with a decent armament. I did recently build something inspired by some early light cruiser/late protected cruiser designs, as well as a heavy cruiser based on the County class.
I do a modular attempt when creating ships. I build hulls with different amounts of space and then use the most suitable one for when I want to create a new ship. Even took my biggest hull and made it one giant LASER. :D
The whole cutting off weapons and armour thing works quite well for reducing cost. I have a battlecruiser/heavy cruiser that is quite expensive for its' firepower, cut off one of the turrets, aft superstructure, and some armour, and the cost went down by more than 50,000 and the speed even went up.
I kind of just pick random shapes and use breadboards to make them go straight. I would like to show off my awesome submarine, but I am still working out the kinks. I know transitions and mimics exist, but I have no idea how to be fashionable with them.
I'm starting to get back in to FtD. It's been a long time - I vaguely remember the missile rework and graphics update, but didn't really play them. I'm starting with re-learing engines, and boy is that an entirely different beast. I'm sure everything else has changed as well, as one thing the devs never seemed to do is small tweaks. I learned a lot from your videos back in the day, and I'm sure I will again this time around. I'm already learning that my typical armor is wholly inadequate - I usually only did 3-4 layers max.
With the flat deck and single turret, they definitely have a ironclad look like the Monitor ships. They definitely used the stubby canoe shape. A few railings and embellishments and they would look pretty realistic. You are the canoe master! No canoes is good canoes! Or something like that...
Why dont you begin the bow without slope stagger, and then add a stagger and increase it the closer you get to the middle, this way you get a nice curve to the hull without adding drag.
I always end up using a fairly tug/dinghy shaped main body (wide with a sloped tip and blunt back) with a pontoon on each side for stability and added horizontal armor (though its usually alloy, its another compartment to punch through) as well as a place to put deck guns and hydrofoils for when stuff gets too heavy. Because of the pontoons weight is rarely an issue until my boat runs out of air/speed, so i can make some superheavy cruisers with the only drawback being cost.
I myself prefer zeppelin shaped hulls, even though they are slightly painful to fit turrets into. *But I could very easily take a canoe slice and make a zeppelin out of it*
Loved the video @Borderwise! Can't wait for the next video man! I would love to see a Tournament in From The Depths on the Channel and some more of the "Ashes of the Empire" Campaign or some more Building Streams for any Other Campaigns ( #Round2 #FinestHour #BritishPacificFleet ). I'm looking at the King George V-class Battleships of the Royal Navy at the Moment in case you're wondering and I'm thinking that one of them might be able to Solo about 3 Crossbones easily, though with an Overall Length of 745 ft. 1 in. (229.256 meters), a Waterline Length of 700 ft. 1 in. (215.410 meters), a Beam of 103 ft. 2.5 in. (31.756 meters) and a Draught of 33 ft. 7.5 in. (10.346 meters) with a Main Battery of 10 14"/45 Caliber Guns in 2 Quad and 1 Twin Mounts with 16.461 meter long Barrels, that might be up to maybe 5-6 Crossbones getting scrapped by one ship.
I recently made a giant trimaran battlecruiser. It’s fun seeing that enormous speed demon zipping around at 44m/s turning a target in to the past tense with APFRAG railguns and huge HEAT missiles.
Could you ever do a video poking fun at "hard/godly" craft which can be curbstomped by vehicles a fraction of their cost without muxh effort? Example: The Exadyne losing to a 70k material Submarine.
@@DSIREX_ Oh my god yes. i was sending a submarine i built which cost 50k mats at the time and was armed with tiny medium EMP/frag missiles (2 frag warheads and one EMP) against an EXADYNE. and know what? IT WON! So i upgraded it to carry interceptors and large missiles too :>
@@lane9668 that is true, the candela and angstrom has a chance to fall into water and never go up again, the exajoule and impedance dont have this problem because they have propellers
@@BorderWise12 It doesn't protect at absolutely every angle, that's why a lot of people don't like them. There's around 20 degrees where it doesn't count as an airgap.
If anyone reads this, I'm experiencing a bug where my vessels pumps leak, but there are no openings. This only happens in gun wells, and the leak indicators are on the turret neck.
@@comradeivan3903 Only when I load certain vehicles, does it begin to leak randomly. I can remove the pumps, save the vehicle, reload it, reinstall the pumps, and it works fine. Just an annoyance I'd like to remedy. When searching online for help with this problem, I find many responses idential to yours, "subobjects don't seal compartments". I know for a fact they do, dispite whatever anyone, even the developer says. All of my vehicles would sink if subobjects didn't seal!
make an imperial star destroyer no more words needed stop looking through this i said stop stop STOP ' ok fine build a space canoe that looks like an imperial star destroyer ya happy now? go eat snickers if your still not happy
Tbh you canoe hulls could easily transform into anything (quite versatile starting point). I would say if you wanted to easily change the appearance, the addition of small details like fore/aft castles, superstructure, masts or adding an elevated bridge could spice up your builds. Also, Even though some of your hulls are massive, small details like railings, lifeboats, and engine room air intakes (I usually make them all from decorations) is what can truly bring a build to life. I'd try this out with an existing build to see how you like decorating it: add a perimeter railing, a couple life boats (or RHIBs) and several air intakes on the deck.
6:00 looks like a chubby ironclad battleship hull, like that of HMS Inflexible. Might want to round-off the stern a little, but otherwize good-looking.
16:53 I actually love the look of the stubby canoes!
Start with something simple, get good at it, and then add some flair to it.
All my ships are canoes, with straight-stemmed bows to minimize pitching when underway.
I've also got a thing for transom sterns, mostly because it makes the bow look more pointy by comparison.
Being obsessed with symmetry and patterns and order in general, I somehow decided that all my hulls would have a draught that's precisely 1/3 of the beam, and a waterline Length-to-Beam ratio of precisely 8:1. Thus I ended up with this:
072x09x03
120x15x05
168x21x07
216x27x09
264x33x11
Aaand those turned out weird, so I started mixing up the numbers, which resulted in some reasonably-proportioned stuff, like a 168x27x09 dreadnought battleship, a 72x15x07 tramp steamer, and a 168x15x05 light cruiser.
Still can't build submarines worth a damn.
I have been trying semi-realistic builds using length, width, and armament from real warships, and it seems to have gone somewhat well, but I keep building armoured cruisers instead of anything with a decent armament. I did recently build something inspired by some early light cruiser/late protected cruiser designs, as well as a heavy cruiser based on the County class.
I do a modular attempt when creating ships. I build hulls with different amounts of space and then use the most suitable one for when I want to create a new ship. Even took my biggest hull and made it one giant LASER. :D
The whole cutting off weapons and armour thing works quite well for reducing cost. I have a battlecruiser/heavy cruiser that is quite expensive for its' firepower, cut off one of the turrets, aft superstructure, and some armour, and the cost went down by more than 50,000 and the speed even went up.
borderwhise goes on cannoe benders. I can relate as a man who gose in tank benders
I kind of just pick random shapes and use breadboards to make them go straight. I would like to show off my awesome submarine, but I am still working out the kinks.
I know transitions and mimics exist, but I have no idea how to be fashionable with them.
I'm starting to get back in to FtD. It's been a long time - I vaguely remember the missile rework and graphics update, but didn't really play them.
I'm starting with re-learing engines, and boy is that an entirely different beast. I'm sure everything else has changed as well, as one thing the devs never seemed to do is small tweaks.
I learned a lot from your videos back in the day, and I'm sure I will again this time around. I'm already learning that my typical armor is wholly inadequate - I usually only did 3-4 layers max.
Welcome back! Hope my videos will help, a lot has changed over the years. 😁
With the flat deck and single turret, they definitely have a ironclad look like the Monitor ships. They definitely used the stubby canoe shape. A few railings and embellishments and they would look pretty realistic.
You are the canoe master! No canoes is good canoes! Or something like that...
Why dont you begin the bow without slope stagger, and then add a stagger and increase it the closer you get to the middle, this way you get a nice curve to the hull without adding drag.
Hmm, might try that. Cheers!
I always end up using a fairly tug/dinghy shaped main body (wide with a sloped tip and blunt back) with a pontoon on each side for stability and added horizontal armor (though its usually alloy, its another compartment to punch through) as well as a place to put deck guns and hydrofoils for when stuff gets too heavy.
Because of the pontoons weight is rarely an issue until my boat runs out of air/speed, so i can make some superheavy cruisers with the only drawback being cost.
I myself prefer zeppelin shaped hulls, even though they are slightly painful to fit turrets into.
*But I could very easily take a canoe slice and make a zeppelin out of it*
Loved the video @Borderwise! Can't wait for the next video man! I would love to see a Tournament in From The Depths on the Channel and some more of the "Ashes of the Empire" Campaign or some more Building Streams for any Other Campaigns ( #Round2 #FinestHour #BritishPacificFleet ). I'm looking at the King George V-class Battleships of the Royal Navy at the Moment in case you're wondering and I'm thinking that one of them might be able to Solo about 3 Crossbones easily, though with an Overall Length of 745 ft. 1 in. (229.256 meters), a Waterline Length of 700 ft. 1 in. (215.410 meters), a Beam of 103 ft. 2.5 in. (31.756 meters) and a Draught of 33 ft. 7.5 in. (10.346 meters) with a Main Battery of 10 14"/45 Caliber Guns in 2 Quad and 1 Twin Mounts with 16.461 meter long Barrels, that might be up to maybe 5-6 Crossbones getting scrapped by one ship.
Personally, I like spending half the build time of a craft making the bow look realistic
A compete waste of time
DX
If the results make you happy, then it's not a waste of time. 😉
somehow youtube thought this was trending. Always fun to see odd engineering!
a mock tourney would be amusing to see with these bare bone ships
You ever think about making a catamaran or even a triple? Would be interested in your take on the concept.
I've made that, actually!
ua-cam.com/video/aHhZr3evYhI/v-deo.html
I recently made a giant trimaran battlecruiser. It’s fun seeing that enormous speed demon zipping around at 44m/s turning a target in to the past tense with APFRAG railguns and huge HEAT missiles.
With only having one turret they are like tanks on the sea. Heck make one in the future that also has tracks so it can move on land and sea!
I think that the mini tournament would be an interesting idea.
Could you ever do a video poking fun at "hard/godly" craft which can be curbstomped by vehicles a fraction of their cost without muxh effort? Example: The Exadyne losing to a 70k material Submarine.
Wait know what thats not a good content idea lol. Sorryyy! Brain no work good sometimes Xd
I object, a funny 500mm with flak thats atleast fast enought with timed fuse can decimate lighning hoods speedy triangles
@@DSIREX_ Oh my god yes. i was sending a submarine i built which cost 50k mats at the time and was armed with tiny medium EMP/frag missiles (2 frag warheads and one EMP) against an EXADYNE. and know what? IT WON!
So i upgraded it to carry interceptors and large missiles too :>
most of the time it's because they're outdated or broken in some way
@@lane9668 that is true, the candela and angstrom has a chance to fall into water and never go up again, the exajoule and impedance dont have this problem because they have propellers
Im 100% sure if the canoe with two cannons turned both cannons to one side and shot, it would flip over.
It's wide and stable enough so that it doesn't, thankfully. 😁
Canoe tounament!
I kind of wanna fight these ships you made right now, I hope you put them in the workshop.
Also they look cute like drones
Using poles for heat protection 💀
You just made me test it again, and yup it still works. 😛
@@BorderWise12 It doesn't protect at absolutely every angle, that's why a lot of people don't like them. There's around 20 degrees where it doesn't count as an airgap.
@@BorderWise12 it works for 2/3 of the hitbox… 1/3 chance for each HEAT/HESH shell to get through.
Do you have a mod that changes the CRAM's sound effect?
Yes, and I keep forgetting to mention it!
I've used it ever since this video: ua-cam.com/video/WVwr8_MsPro/v-deo.html
@@BorderWise12 thanks
If anyone reads this, I'm experiencing a bug where my vessels pumps leak, but there are no openings. This only happens in gun wells, and the leak indicators are on the turret neck.
Are you using helium pumps? Because those need to be in a fully enclosed compartment.
It's not a bug. Your subobject does not 'seal' the compartment.
@@comradeivan3903 Only when I load certain vehicles, does it begin to leak randomly. I can remove the pumps, save the vehicle, reload it, reinstall the pumps, and it works fine. Just an annoyance I'd like to remedy.
When searching online for help with this problem, I find many responses idential to yours, "subobjects don't seal compartments".
I know for a fact they do, dispite whatever anyone, even the developer says. All of my vehicles would sink if subobjects didn't seal!
@@dreadpiratelenny1348 no youre wrong
What if air burst cram mortars
make an imperial star destroyer
no more words needed
stop looking through this
i said stop
stop
STOP
'
ok fine build a space canoe that looks like an imperial star destroyer ya happy now?
go eat snickers if your still not happy
Canu spot the differences? lol