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Dr. C. Baxter Kruger - Session 1 - REthink GoD
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Dr. C. Baxter Kruger, author of The Shack Revisited, speaks in Richmond, VA at the REthink GoD Conference (held June 17-19, 2016).
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What if God were more loving, more generous, more caring, more king, more forgiving, and more accepting than we’ve ever dared to dream? We invite you to come hear our special guests as they challenge us to “rethink God”.
For more information, visit www.richmondgrace.com
Special Guests & Speakers:
Wm. Paul Young | best-selling author of “The Shack”
Dr. C. Baxter Kruger | world renowned theologian & author
John MacMurray | Hebrew scholar, theologian & author
Featuring music from Australian singer & songwriter Vanessa Kersting
For more on Dr. C. Baxter Kruger:
www.perichoresis.org
I'm so glad God keeps directing me to good ministers - thank you!
This sermon was sent me by the Lord .In time, when I haven't answers and being angry with Lord, I'm somehow found this video. I'ts realy saved my faith and improve my understanding. So grateful for Baxter and his guys!
The church needs this. I’m glad you found this.
This is the most profound sermon I've ever heard! I had no idea that being included in the Trinity meant all of these wonderful things. This is like discovering a chest full of precious stones, and gold. I love the whole sermon but my favorite part is when you said, "This is where we're heading! This is what Holy Spirit is doing on planet Earth 🌏, He's changing the way we see Jesus, Father, ourselves, and everyone else. We begin to see our relationship & union. NOW, we begin to see what it IS! ...Holy Spirit revealing the Godhead in us, and others, how we are ALREADY! participators in this union, how our burdens, interests, our concerns, our passion, our hopes, and gifts (originate) from sharing with THEM, in this Trinitarian Relationship. WE, are included in the circle of the Trinity through Jesus". What I've learned is that I don't have to come barging in with my grandiose ideas, in an attempt to "fix things", because I am loved and cared for by Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Everything I feel or experience is NOT outside of their attention, affection or love, and They're doing something about it! WOW! Jesus didn't need help to turn the water into wine at Cana, but He allowed the servant to be included by asking for water to be brought to Him...this is so awesomely cool, I just wanna cry.....absolutely brilliant👌🏾...Thank you Holy Spirit, we will have more please 🤗🤗🤗❤️
Nollie Mccain, easy to get sucked in by this teaching, especially if you are not grounded in the thorough, balanced teaching of the Bible.
Study the Bible more carefully, many errors & mistakes in Baxter Kruger's teaching.
So sweet & fluffy, but sadly not Biblical!
Dangerous teaching to use statements like all humanity is included in the Trinity. This simply is not true! Why? Because this statement is NEVER used in the Bible! Because God knows the arrogance & disobedience of humanity & our original sin, which was our pride of wanting to be as God, without Him! WE ARE NOT THE TRINITY, WE ARE NOT GOD !!!
Only believers who want Jesus Christ's forgiveness & want to be reconciled with Him & come back under His loving Lordship again, who then are sealed with the Holy Spirit, (Ephesians 1 : 13 - 14) will be WITH the Trinity for all eternity in Heaven, through the finished work of Jesus Christ.
Christians, ( meaning - followers of Jesus Christ, which is in the Bible) are His sons & daughters, but we are not God !!!
Baxter's wrong & unbalanced teaching, elevates man & demotes God !!!
Jesus Christ died for all of humanity, but we have to choose to be included in the finished work of Christ !!!
JC Sunshine youre not understandin what it means to be like god in your idiocy you actually deny what it means to be god which is the same as what makes us humane..theres nothing fluffy about baxters teachings..take your western blood thirsty false western gospel somewhere else.
matrixlone, I can see very clearly from what you have written, what a Godly, Christian man you are, believe you me I am no idiot !!!
JC Sunshine ..oh yes you are sunshine...dear baby jesus please open this unbelieving heathen eyes to your true gospel so they can repent..in baby jesus name...Aaaaaaaaaamen.😌
Just so you know - your version of the "good news" destroyed my life and left me crushed and suicidal. Baxter Kruger sharing of the real good news pulled me back from the brink and allowed me to understand that the Father that Jesus revealed in the Prodigal Son is the real Father, not the vile caricature that western churches push to manipulate and crush unsuspecting people. Thank you Father, Son and Spirit of Truth that you really do love us with pure and perfect love and do not want us in cruel bondage to "churchianity".
Religion is nothing more than paganism, dualism, Gnosticism and appeasing the distant gods. The gospel is really good news!
This is really good! Seeing with NEW EYES just as Trinity sees!
Я хочу слышать это постоянно!
Amen:)
JC Sunshine you can spout all your knowledge and logic but God and His Love and Grace aren't logical, they are spiritual! God talking to my spirit!! Showing me what is right and wrong and what is darkness and what is light! George MacDonald said, "Many souls will one day be horrified by what they now think God is and who He is!" Your blustering is just noise that we need to shut out and listen to the Spirit within us because She knows Papa/God and Jesus! The peace I've enjoyed since I found Paul Young and Baxter Kruger cannot be taken away or diminished by you and your noise!
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit - Ephesians 1:13
Loved it
Why isn’t this the way of the church in the uk? Not the traditional stuff.
I'm sorry But this sermon is all over the place. I don't want to be someone that takes the sermon out of context as I feel that is sadly how so many people get Christianity wrong. But honestly I don't follow what exactly what your end point to this sermon was. As I said I don't wish to take any point out of context I would just like to come away from this getting what you truly want people to understand in your own words. Thank you for the sermon I mean no disrespect God bless and I hope to hear from you.
I appreciate your ministry but one thing caught my attention that confuses me. If Jesus gave us clear instruction on how to pray to the Father why do you pray to the Holy Spirit. I find no place in the Bible where anyone does this. 2nd question: Are we free to create new things like this and speaking in tongues without scripture to back up what we do?
Billy about praying to HS, We can not separate the trinity and accurately define God, remember God IS Spirit.
Oh dear people.. Where to begin, this is such a theological mess. The scripture is our authority not man. Do not be deceived, this is heresy.
Shane Haffey, Speaking of the time after his ascension when the Holy Spirit is poured out, Jesus promises: "In that day, you will see I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you." (Jn 14:20)
niu motu'u, Yes, absolutely does the Bible back up what Shane Haffey said !!!
Todd Norquist, Jesus was speaking to His disciples in John 14 : 20, not to non-believers! Really, if you read & studied your Bible properly, you should know this !!!
Shane Haffey, completely correct !!!
Shane Haffey plz explain
WRONG TEACHING BAXTER, AGAIN! ONLY CHRISTIANS ARE INDWELT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT !!!
How about John 14:20,...."In that day you will know" Who put Jesus and the Holy Spirit in Christians? He did, but in that day you will know. Knowing doesn't put Him there, He is already there(in you). Truth doesn't become Truth by popular vote, it is already True!
Albert Stankavage, in John 14 : 20, Jesus was talking to His disciples, He was not talking to non-believers!
Ephesians 1 : 13 - 14
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in Him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession--to the praise of His glory.
The Holy Spirit given to believers, is the enabling, empowering by God to live the Christian life, for His Glory !!!
Ephesians 4 : 30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
"In that day you will know..." Who put Him the disciples then? Did they do something to get Jesus in them, or was He there and they just didn't realize it or just weren't awakened to it? God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD to Himself....not just the disciples!(2 Corinthians 5:19) And, Paul a murder, a "non-believer"- 'But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son In Me', that I might preach him IN(GReek word "en"-which means in!) the nations...It pleased God to reveal His Son in me, says Paul. Then, Who put Jesus in Saul, who was a murderer, a Pharisee, a persecuter of Christians(believers)?
He rescued the integrity of our original design and revealed that WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HIS OWN from the beginning, even before time was. This has nothing to do with anything we did to qualify or disqualify ourselves. We are not talking religious good works or karma here. Jesus unveils grace to be the eternal intent of God! Grace celebrates our pre-creation innocence and now declares our redeemed union with God in Christ Jesus.(2 Timothy 1:9)
Albert Stankavage, cannot you see, that Jesus Christ made a way for all of humanity to be reconciled & forgiven by Him.
Do you understand that humanity needs to want His forgiveness & reconciliation? We have to respond to His gracious offer!
What is the unforgiveable sin? To not want God, to stay in our pride & our autonomy from Him! To be like Satan, unrepentant, staying in disobedience, not wanting to be forgiven, not wanting any relationship with God.
It is our choice, we have to choose Him!
This is nothing about good works, this is about God's amazing grace, will people respond to Him in utter gratitude?
All of humanity has to be like the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He first of all acknowledged his wrong doing & that he deserved his punishment. Then he acknowledged that Jesus was a King with a Kingdom & he wanted to be with Him!
John 14 : 20, Jesus had 12 disciples that He was intensely with teaching them, who were to be the Apostles. He was specifically talking to them in this verse.
Obviously, Jesus Christ came & died for all of humanity & bore our sins & death on the cross & rose again victorious.
Do we want His finished work that He graciously accomplished for us?
Or do we keep in our fallen, unrepentant state & say no thanks, not interested?
Romans 2 : 4 - 10
Or do you show contempt for the riches of His kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
But because of your stubbornness and you unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when His righteous judgment will be revealed.
God "will give to each person according to what He has done."
To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life.
But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;
but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
You never answered...Who put Jesus in Saul on his way to Damascus? Where in Acts did Luke write that Paul said a "Sinner's prayer" and asked for forgiveness? So in Acts 17 Paul addressing a bunch of idol worshiping pagan philosophers: " Yet he(God) is not far from each one of us, for ‘In him we live and move and have our being’;
as even some of your poets have said, ‘For we are indeed his offspring.’ Being then God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the Deity is like gold, or silver, or stone, a representation by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all men everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will JUDGE the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and of this he has given assurance to ALL MEN by raising him from the dead.” In the the Greek ALL MEANS "ALL".
Repent isn't even in the original text, the word is Metanoia which means Meta-together, Nous-mind-"Align your thoughts with God's thoughts concerning your True identity"...agree with God who He created you to be! 2 Corinthians 4:2 but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. Conscience here in Greek is Suneido which means: See as God sees or: "From sun and eido; to see completely; used (like its primary) only in two past tenses, respectively meaning to understand or become aware, and to be conscious or (clandestinely) informed of -- consider, know, be privy, be ware of." It is an awakening to the Truth concerning your True identity, that is what "repent" means!!
God is not a stranger to anyone; whatever can be known of God is evident in every human life.(Romans 1:19) Herein lies the secret of the power of the Gospel; there is no good news in it until the righteousness of God is revealed! The dynamic of the gospel is the revelation of God’s faith as the only valid basis for our belief. The prophets wrote in advance about the fact that God believes that righteousness reveals the life of our design. “Righteousness by his (God’s) faith defines life.”(Romans 1:17) Theology is simple: "God's Logic" God's Word and in His logic- "One died for all therefore all died!!(2 Corinthians 5:14) All means all!.... The love of Christ resonates within us and leaves us with only one conclusion: Jesus died humanity’s death; therefore, in God’s logic every individual simultaneously died. (The word, sunecho, from sun, meaning together with and echo, meaning to echo, to embrace, to hold, and thus translated, to resonate. Jesus didn’t die 99% or for 99%. He died humanity’s death 100%! Now the Gospel is to make mankind see themselves as God sees them. "To know as they have always been known"- or co-know with God- the latin word for Conscience. The Gospel is simple and profound!
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