Foundation Velvet: The Drumming Of Maureen 'Moe' Tucker - A Documentary By Cam Forrester

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  • @CAMFORRESTER
    @CAMFORRESTER  4 місяці тому +4

    *Have you seen my new three-part documentary, 'Sterling. The Velvet Warrior' yet? If not, check it it out now!*
    ua-cam.com/video/obQ0x22GIVE/v-deo.html

  • @mikulka1
    @mikulka1 3 роки тому +1206

    Hi, Mr. Forrester. A friend sent me a link to this documentary today. I was hesitant to watch an hour long documentary about my mom but I really enjoyed it. You did a great job with focusing on her playing style and talking about her actual drum kit itself, the iterations of her kit and providing video of what it looked like to see her play on studio recordings with your performances. Well done!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +314

      Hi Mr. Mikulka,
      Thank you so much for your praise; I can’t believe that my little project has managed to work it’s way over to your family!
      Your Mom has been an inspiration to me for so many years, and I’ve always wanted to see something that really spotlighted her vital role and gave her the credit she deserves…so finally I decided to make something myself!
      The response so far has been wonderful, and I’m so happy it seems to have accomplished what I set out to do.
      I did make attempts to reach out to Moe through the official VU forum a few months ago, to invite her to be the first to see it, and ask for her blessing to release it online, but was unable to - a member of the forum who used to be in regular contact with her (Alfredo Garcia; rare VU photo book producer), advised me that she is hesitant to have direct contact with fans these days…which at her time of life is completely understandable, so I decided to let it sail unmanned and just hope for the best!
      Please do send her my warmest and most sincere regards, and let her know that she has been one of my most idolised heroes in music since I was just twelve years old.
      I hope she and the rest of your family are all in good health and happiness, and are reminded all the time, just how damn cool and inspirational their Mom/Grandma is 😎 x

    • @sunkingsuk
      @sunkingsuk 3 роки тому +21

      Great documentary, that I came across on my reccomended list. Superb detail,and the breakdown of Moe's drumming parts, techniques and influneces was exremely illuminating!
      Perhaps in the future you could look into the tunings that some of the Vlevet Underground used etc.
      Thanks for your hard work that went into this!!!!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +22

      @@sunkingsuk Thanks for your support! I actually did a demonstration of alternate tunings The Velvets used just before the tutorial section of my 'How To Play Venus In Furs' video, which can be viewed here: ua-cam.com/video/P8tb8elvKY8/v-deo.html

    • @TowerofGuitars
      @TowerofGuitars 3 роки тому +16

      It’s funny; I was watching a video of Elvin Jones the other day, and his son commented as well.

    • @san5a89
      @san5a89 3 роки тому +15

      as time goes by I realize more and more how important each member of this band have been for music. everything is apparently simple. then you realize that you can use virtuosism or minimalism but the most important thing is there is a concept. and here there is a great meaning in every detail...

  • @dubkebab6307
    @dubkebab6307 3 роки тому +84

    This film made my day! Years ago I put a piece of tape on my drums-"what would Maureen do?" reminding me to simplify,keep the pulse and aim steady.She is a heroine.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +6

      That's a great idea! Thanks for watching ;)

    • @stephenfiore9960
      @stephenfiore9960 3 роки тому +1

      Lou has a song called Heroin

    • @julietsilver2033
      @julietsilver2033 3 роки тому +1

      @@stephenfiore9960 ...if you don't know the song you can't really consider yourself a fan of the VU or Lou Reed..lol..🤷‍♀️maybe you were joking???...

    • @talbotsplace7316
      @talbotsplace7316 3 роки тому +2

      As a bass player, I used to staple a picture of John Entwhistle on the side of my amp.

    • @kirby711
      @kirby711 3 роки тому +1

      @@stephenfiore9960 what does that have to do with calling Moe Tucker a heroine?

  • @deaconlight
    @deaconlight 3 роки тому +203

    This is amongst the best analytical documentaries I’ve ever seen. You brought Mo out of the shadows and showed with you illustrious examples the WHAT, HOW, and WHY Mo should be recognized as an innovative-groundbreaking drummer.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +9

      Sincerest thanks for your feedback! I’m very happy to hear that; you are right-on about Moe being somewhat in the shadows previously…spotlighting her was exactly what I set out to achieve!

    • @randalclarke5487
      @randalclarke5487 3 роки тому +7

      @@CAMFORRESTER you did an exceptional job!!

    • @lilise3965
      @lilise3965 3 роки тому +10

      She's never been in the shadows for those who have listened to the VU, but her revolutionary, inspiring drumming style has never been recognized or emphasised enough.

    • @mifolfree6683
      @mifolfree6683 3 роки тому +4

      True. I did not know the VU's drummer was a woman. She needs to write a book . She's an inspiration to all who just want to play music the way we want. A book that needs to be part of every member of a rock bands library.

    • @mavjimbo
      @mavjimbo 3 роки тому +1

      She was jawdropping

  • @BurningPandama
    @BurningPandama 11 місяців тому +5

    It is said that all 7700 people who liked this video went on to records drumming documentaries of their own.

  • @samajax
    @samajax 3 роки тому +166

    What a great film, obviously filled with love. I'm not an overly emotional person, but parts of this made me tear up a bit. Beautiful selections of vintage pictures and film, and the narrative was on point. I especially liked the inclusion of her early exposure to African drumming. This film goes way beyond the usual UA-cam production values and you've done her and yourself proud.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +14

      Thank you so much! I tried my best to find the right balance between giving it that personal touch that traditional documentaries don’t have, whilst still remaining objective and factual. So far it seems that come across really well!

    • @markhall42
      @markhall42 3 роки тому +2

      yeah have to admit my eyes got a bit watery at times there dedication song to sterling, the live reunion version of heroin etc...

    • @ronroffel1462
      @ronroffel1462 3 роки тому

      That last photo of Lou in black and white. His eyes...rips me apart just thinking about them.

  • @thecrossmethod6192
    @thecrossmethod6192 3 роки тому +66

    An hour long documentary on Moe Tucker = subscribed!

  • @matildesquillante3147
    @matildesquillante3147 Рік тому +4

    i wish there was such an accurate doc about every music hero. thanks!!!!!

  • @rickg8015
    @rickg8015 3 роки тому +17

    “A humble yet powerful grace..” Succinctly put.. It’s about time Maureen Tucker gets some solid acknowledgement.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment!
      I completely agree and am so pleased with the response so far to the documentary, and all the love & respect being expressed for Moe!

  • @marin4311
    @marin4311 Рік тому +3

    Nice idea to put the focus on Moe Tucker. A very attaching and genuine figure indeed.

  • @djadequate
    @djadequate 3 роки тому +30

    This is actually more insightful than the Apple TV documentary. I never realized how much Mimi Parker from the band Low was influenced by Mo Tucker, and how many other bands I love also use her sound.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +8

      I was a bit disappointed with how little Haynes' documentary looked into the actual musicianship of not just Moe, but all of the members (with the exception of John) in more depth too, but I did immensely enjoy it overall, especially considering the previously unseen footage that was included.
      I'm glad to hear you found my documentary informative!

    • @balletbabe52
      @balletbabe52 3 роки тому +2

      @@CAMFORRESTER I agree that there was too much focus on John and Lou to the detriment of Sterling and Moe's contribution to the bands unique sound.

    • @wescarter2891
      @wescarter2891 3 роки тому +1

      @@balletbabe52 Absolutely! I enjoyed it, but it quickly dawned on me that this is going to be the "Lou and John show". I wish it had showcased both Sterling and Moe much more.

  • @KyOte13
    @KyOte13 3 роки тому +15

    It absolutely warms my heart to see Moe finally getting her due. She completely revolutionized popular drumming in the 60s, & in true Velvets-style, continues to make music accessible and individual to all players looking for their own voice. She is a legend, and the Velvet Underground is the most important band in history.
    Thank You for this, Cam.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Nice words...couldn't agree more! You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    • @timacann
      @timacann Рік тому

      Warms the heart indeed. I think I’ve got something stuck in my eye.

  • @DrJohnPollard
    @DrJohnPollard 3 роки тому +20

    The best part for me. 21:22. I never realized how important the drumming was for this possibly my favorite album.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      I'm glad you liked the demonstrations!

  • @chriswareham
    @chriswareham 3 роки тому +70

    Sometimes the UA-cam algorithm recommends some total gems, and this is one of them. I'm not even much of a VU fan, although I'm aware of how much they influence the bands I love, but this was a fascinating insight into the life and technique of a unique musician.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +3

      I'm glad it reached you! Thanks for watching!

  • @BruceWalther-s2l
    @BruceWalther-s2l 7 місяців тому +3

    I can't believe I never saw The Trio of Lou, John, and Mo paying tribute to Sterling at the RHOF induction ceremony. That last shot of John Cale "(Saying) goodbye to my friend..." brought a tear to my eye. I went back after the conclusion of the doc to view and listen to "Last night ...", again, and remind how young 'Sterl' was and the ducts swelled again. Lou sweetly smiles at Mo's lyric and her heartfelt pounding drum. Cale exhales and rises from his piano. Goodbye dear friends. Sterling Morrison 1942-1995; Lou Reed 1942-2013

  • @lawrencefeldman7744
    @lawrencefeldman7744 3 роки тому +46

    Sir, I am scraping myself off the floor where I've been stationary for the last hour or so. This was such a godsend for VU fans world wide. Your love,soul, and attention to detail make this one of the best music docs I've seen. I am subscribing for sure!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much for your support, and for staying the whole hour! I'm really glad you liked the documentary!

  • @WilliamPhelpsIII
    @WilliamPhelpsIII 6 місяців тому +2

    After a second look, the brilliance of this doc is even more clear. Cam Forrester is the top archivist, historian and interpreter of the VELVET Underground in the world.

  • @slefend2799
    @slefend2799 3 роки тому +28

    Everybody knows that the VU would not have sounded as they did without Maureen Tucker's drumming. But in spite of the emotional power of their music, there lingers the widespread opinion that they 'couldn't play' and that she, in particular, wasn't a 'proper drummer'. A serious critical study of her work as a practising musician is therefore overdue and really valuable. Thank you.
    In the book 'up-tight' by Malanga and Bockris, she comes across as a really nice person. Laughably, her androgynous appearance seemed, at the time, quite threatening to a lot of people. In fact she used to go to church every Sunday, one of at least two people from the Factory who did. The other? Andy Warhol.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +14

      You’re absolutely right my friend; I remember reading a quote of Ray Manzarek from The Doors saying exactly that in an interview once…who personally I don’t rate particularly highly as a rock keyboardist of that era, with people like Steve Winwood, Vincent Crane and Keith Emerson around.
      He slammed the VU members’ technical abilities, feeling his own band were superior simply because they were influenced by jazz musicians, when all the while both John Cale and Lou Reed were classically trained in Viola/Piano respectively, and Sterling Morrison’s guitar playing was in a league of its own. Lou Reeds dissonant guitar solos were often influenced by free-jazz players too.
      Maureen was the only member of the band who was untrained, but she was not a novice - she practiced regularly for three years before joining the Velvets.
      The fact that she had no training meant that she wasn’t bound or limited by traditional rules - that’s why I compared her playing against that of Keith Moon, since both drummers had the freedom and ability to naturally flirt with time, and often played notes and/or fills in places that trained drummers simply would not - they were doing what sounded good to the ear, rather than what made sense on paper.
      Every member of the Velvet Underground knew exactly what they were doing, and the multitude of unusual sounds they created were totally deliberate. Some people perceived it as unpleasant noise created by incompetent musicians, while others appreciated it for what it really was - totally original, avant-garde rock, played by very intelligent, innovative musicians.

    • @JMarinelli
      @JMarinelli 3 роки тому +3

      They sound pretty good with Billy Yule on Live at Max’s, but Moe is on another level entirely.

  • @realwhoopysnorp
    @realwhoopysnorp 3 роки тому +117

    This documentary is just fantastic. It perfectly balances the history of the band with analysis of Moe's playing and clearly demonstrates why she is so important to the sound of the Velvet Underground. She can never get enough praise as far as I am concerned. I mean to be the backbone of one of the most influential bands ever is an accomplishment in itself but to create a style all her own in a band that redefined what rock music was is just extraordinary. Thanks for putting this together. I think it is important for her legacy as well as being tremendously entertaining. Cheers!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +9

      Thanks so much for your feedback! And I completely agree...she was and is one of a kind! I only wish I could have been in the audience being hypnotised by the sound of them all together!

  • @velvetfan
    @velvetfan 3 роки тому +38

    I still have not seen the new VU documentary, but this could be called one of the best sources on the VU history in existence! Very nice!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +7

      Wow thank you so much my friend, I’m so glad you found it interesting/informative. A lot of love went into this so it’s great to get such wonderful feedback. I’m also looking forward to seeing the new one, and hoping it will contain some new information and more importantly new/unseen footage of the band!

    • @velvetfan
      @velvetfan 3 роки тому +4

      @@CAMFORRESTER very professional looking! If you could put on DVD, I guarantee it would sell many! Not dvr's, pressed DVD's! fans are always looking for something new, not just repackaging the same few bits. You have a new angle and it's edited and compiled so that even footage we have seen before has a whole new feel. I used my youTube app on my Dish and watched it on 65" screen with nice sound system. It is quality at a big size and audio not muddy or lacking. I love how the drummer helps us hear and understand her drumming in the less that audiophile quality. I just cannot tell you how much I enjoyed it! Usually I play VU videos while I answer emails; I stopped, went to the big screen and actually watched it twice! My son "likes" the VU (tired of hearing me rant, I guess) but I called him in for 2nd watch since he is a drummer. I always told him about Moe's style but me not being a musician, I never conveyed it fully. He watched the whole thing and told me, "Pop, NOW I get what you have been telling me over the years!" you should be proud. You are very talented.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +6

      That’s amazing, I’m thrilled to hear it looks and sounds good on a big screen/sound system…I wondered how it would stand up, since I currently I do not own a TV to reference it on - the first draft was produced entirely on a 2010 13” MacBook Pro 🤣 It’s so old I had to put the thing in the fridge while exporting the film as it would overheat and fail to export otherwise! It couldn’t handle adding the revisions I made, so I transferred everything and did the final export on my parents’ iMac!
      I’m also thrilled to hear that it’s helped convey Moe’s importance over to your son! That’s exactly what I set out to achieve when I decided to make the film! She has influenced my own playing massively. 🙏🏼

    • @BeesWaxMinder
      @BeesWaxMinder 3 роки тому +2

      @@velvetfan that’s lovely!

  • @ignatiusj.reilly5632
    @ignatiusj.reilly5632 Рік тому +4

    As a mad Velvet Underground fan, l absolutely loved this documentary on my most favourite female drummer. Well put together & in such a professional fashion too, kudos to you, sir. Thanks, thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @rallemauz
    @rallemauz 3 роки тому +67

    Wow, this documentary was incredibly well put together. One of the best VU documentaries I've ever seen! Excellent, Cam 👏

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much! Please give it a share if you’re able! ;)

  • @spybot6697
    @spybot6697 3 роки тому +16

    As a drummer, this was a real gem. Thank you.

  • @RakkaRakkaRecords
    @RakkaRakkaRecords 3 роки тому +22

    The best Velvet Underground documentary I have ever seen! I won't repeat what has already been said, but needed to thank you for making such a wonderful film. Cheers, from everyone at Rakka Rakka Records!

  • @1971bdott
    @1971bdott 3 роки тому +9

    Great work excellent documentary thank you for making it.
    I had the privilege of meeting Moe Tucker three times the first time I was 19 years old it was quite a long time ago but I’ll tell you she’s the sweetest most loveable lady you’ll ever meet.
    One of the first thing she said to me was don’t you ever do drugs you’ll wast a beautiful life. It always brings a tear to Mayeye when I think about Moe I really love her a lot she’s sweet

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks very much!
      How wonderful that you were able to meet her…thank you for sharing. She always comes across as the most loveable and down to earth person in interviews.

  • @tommyjonsson3154
    @tommyjonsson3154 3 роки тому +52

    This is absolutely brilliant! Probably the best VU related documentary I've seen and I have probably seen if not all but most of them. Thank you very much Cam for creating this documentary.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much for saying so! 🙏🏼 Please give it a share if you’re able to! :)

  • @gogarrio
    @gogarrio 17 днів тому +1

    Wow, this is a miracle. I can’t believe how well done it is and the dissection of an incredibly unique drum style. Now I know why I’ve always loved Run Run Ron so much - just one drum on it. Thank you for this incredibly insightful look at one of the world’s most influential drummers.

  • @chardinetaylor-stone2533
    @chardinetaylor-stone2533 3 роки тому +18

    As another stand up drummer influenced my Moe just wanna say this was an incredible documentary! Well done! Just goes to show that being yourself and finding your own style is the most important thing. An Icon! x

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! And you're absolutely right...she's an icon indeed!

    • @randallalton6310
      @randallalton6310 3 роки тому +1

      Mimi from Low is another inspired by Moe, now inspiring others.
      Stand up drummers, particularly women, are a beautiful and unique part of music.

  • @gobeco
    @gobeco 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you very much to focus on the great Moe Tucker!!!

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 3 роки тому +26

    This is totally amazing. Love how you show how Moe played her drum parts.

  • @weirdie54
    @weirdie54 3 роки тому +13

    An excellent documentary and a well-deserved tribute to a unique musician, I especially loved the analysis of her drumming on White Light/White Heat, never realized it was that powerful

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you. And yes her playing on WL/WH was brilliant...just primitive power!

  • @davidwentworth1250
    @davidwentworth1250 3 роки тому +36

    One of the best music documentaries I've seen... and being that it's self produced makes it that much more incredible. The Velvets should/would be proud. Great to see you passing along the inspiration. (Almost thought that the JAMC would be left out at the end, but no!)
    Bravo!

  • @owenwilberforce6138
    @owenwilberforce6138 3 роки тому +8

    I was just listening to live What Goes On today and absolutely am thrilled to see a film dedicated to the finer points of the Velvets. What made them unique was how Reed took rhythm playing to such intense levels. Moe’s anchor playing allowed for long jams to hover while the solos floated on top. The effect was hypnotic jamming but with complex guitar rhythms dancing on a rock solid beat. No bands at that time from the Dead to the 13th Floor Elevators brought such fundamental power to their sound. With the Velvets you could say Less is Moe but it’s more satisfying because the drumming is supporting rather than trying to stand out over everything else. The ensemble was about energy over egotistical chops.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +3

      Less is Moe...you could give my title a run for it's money! Mine was a spin on Warhol 'superstar' Susan Bottomly's alias; 'International Velvet'.

  • @nitemareman1
    @nitemareman1 3 роки тому +14

    This is a wonderful film. Only someone with a great appreciation for Mo's unique skills could have created this. You did a great job balancing explaining Mo's technical skills and set up with simply being an entertaining film about some incredible rock n' roll heroes. GREAT JOB!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks very much for your feedback, I really appreciate it, and am very happy to hear you liked the film!

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen1391 3 роки тому +25

    Amazing documentary! I'm amazed by how accurately you emulated Moe's drum parts, including the ones that often fall behind in the mix. Thanks very much for this!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      You’re very welcome mate, thanks a lot for the feedback! 🙏🏼

  • @NOWtheband
    @NOWtheband 3 роки тому +17

    Usually I'm not that impressed by home-made documentaries but this one was really good and informative, especially for a musician like me.
    Thanks!
    :-)

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much for saying so. I’m glad to hear you found it informative! :)

  • @dynjarren8355
    @dynjarren8355 3 роки тому +2

    Finally! Maureen Tucker, the drummer for the Velvet Underground gets the attention, respect and recognition she deserves after all these years.
    I always enjoyed her drumming or percussion if you like. She had a unique approach and style that was all her own which fit in perfectly with the innovative and unique style of the Velvet Underground band. She made a huge contribution to the bands sound and therefore to rock music in general.
    Thank you so much for this great documentary!
    I am forever grateful.
    Go Moe Go!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your support! Glad you enjoyed the documentary!

  • @drearyvintage42
    @drearyvintage42 3 роки тому +19

    This is fantastic! I'm a longtime VU fan, but not a drummer (keyboards). I learned so much from this. Thank you!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you for watching! I'm glad you found it insightful!

    • @kevmac1230
      @kevmac1230 3 роки тому +1

      I'm wondering if any of the "greats" of drumming have acknowledged Mos' influence?

  • @poisonbird70
    @poisonbird70 Рік тому +2

    Superb. Thank you for spotlighting this monumental artist, who has been a musical hero of mine ever since I discovered VU in high school during the 80s. She was the rock that allowed all of the beautiful chaos around her to exist. I will only disagree with you on one small point: none of the 17+ minutes of "Sister Ray" is disposable!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  Рік тому

      *Only in exchange for a completed, and blistering version of GIFIL was my argument; most definitely not otherwise!

  • @TK-fk4po
    @TK-fk4po 2 роки тому +4

    10/10!! I’ve watched a few velvet documentaries, but this one easily is the best one I’ve ever seen. Mainly because it focuses on Moe, who is usually overlooked in favour of Lou and Cale in most discussions of the band. I remember when I first heard them back in college I could not wrap my head around the drums. It was only years later, I realized she was playing in a completely unconventional manner. The 1993 performance is absolutely incredible. The versions of heroin and rock ‘n’ roll and sweet Jane are just chart topping. And of course it’s here where I finally got to actually see what the heck she’s been doing all this time!

  • @BenCDaugherty
    @BenCDaugherty Рік тому +1

    Moe never overthought it! She instinctively served the song. What a legend. Thanks Cam for this documentary dude!

  • @andrewvarley9093
    @andrewvarley9093 3 роки тому +12

    Fascinating for Velvet fans. This is a great find and hope more people see it. Love it.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the support! Glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @johnweyers2685
    @johnweyers2685 3 роки тому +24

    Mo Tucker and Charlie Watts - rock steady and totally unique. As a drummer myself, they are my favorites hands down.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +4

      Both of them and Ringo were three of a kind!

    • @dantean
      @dantean 3 роки тому

      Try Aynsley Dunbar.

    • @raysmith1630
      @raysmith1630 3 роки тому +2

      Rest in peace Charlie Watts.

    • @berndjenter4005
      @berndjenter4005 3 роки тому +1

      Jaki Liebezeit of the german band 'Can' did a really good job too !

    • @jameshafner1442
      @jameshafner1442 3 роки тому

      R.I.P Charlie Watts.

  • @scottsteele7109
    @scottsteele7109 3 роки тому +31

    Magnificent effort, can see from the other comments how this resonated with the core audience of VU lovers. You really did a great job and the pacing is smooth, so many unseen pictures, and at the top a supportive comment from her son! High praise indeed.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +4

      Absolutely! I couldn’t be more thrilled with how well it has been received. Thanks for your feedback and support! I hope to bring you more similar content soon!

    • @johnsluggett1822
      @johnsluggett1822 3 роки тому +1

      @@CAMFORRESTER Really great!

  • @snakefinger
    @snakefinger 3 роки тому +2

    Beautifully Executed ! Thank you. Thank You Mo ! 🤍🤍🤍

  • @petershim5900
    @petershim5900 3 роки тому +3

    Moe singing 'I'm Sticking With You'... I suddenly started crying with great joy. Up to now I can't understand why. I was just struck. 😭😭 It's so unpretentious and so different? All Hail Moe Tucker!!! 🤩🤩🤩❤🙏🏼

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Those 1993 performances really were magical! The crowd were with her all the way! What an amazing feeling that must have been...

  • @sekil75
    @sekil75 Рік тому +2

    I adore VU since childhood many moons ago. This is not only great doc about Moe, but a detailed overview of VU starting gigs, Warhol days, presented with so much affection and love. Moe is really unique musician and she couldn't have found a better band to fit into. Great work.

  • @renafielding945
    @renafielding945 3 роки тому +6

    I love this. Every minute is riveting. Listening to this, I realized I knew every lick by heart. Country come to town in 1969 in New York, petrified and mesmerized by the East Village. How many other bumpkins had this experience?
    Thank you for showing me one more big reason why it drilled into my soul.

  • @birdmanmojo7101
    @birdmanmojo7101 3 роки тому +1

    WELL DONE MR FORRESTER, YOU CORRECTLY ACKNOWLEDGE HER HUGE CONTRIBUTION TO THE MAGIC, THAT IS "ROCK AND ROLL !

  • @snakefinger
    @snakefinger 3 роки тому +4

    The way you laid out Mo’s approach, growth, and type of gear she was using on the drums makes this very easy to watch for someone with no clue who Mo was before this. Besides just tremendously enjoyable to watch.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thank you, I'm very glad to hear that!

  • @ndogg20
    @ndogg20 Рік тому +1

    Never really picked up on the Velvet Underground but after this very engaging documentary I think its time I did.

  • @petermorris3312
    @petermorris3312 3 роки тому +7

    Exactly. We've heard every opinion on the Velvets, but very few people understand what they do and why they did it...

  • @MrThinwiteduke
    @MrThinwiteduke 3 роки тому +3

    Fantastic documentary! It’s it the first time I realize why listening to ‘I’m set free’ always makes me cry. It’s because Moe’s drum sound

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      It really is a beautiful recording. Thanks for watching!

  • @yesnomaybe1220
    @yesnomaybe1220 3 роки тому +7

    I just paused the beginning. After reading the comments this seems worthy of a fresh coffee and a joint. Hope to learn some new stuff about my 3rd favourite band.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Haha, indulge yourself ;) Peel slowly and see!

    • @yesnomaybe1220
      @yesnomaybe1220 3 роки тому +1

      that was amazing.

    • @yesnomaybe1220
      @yesnomaybe1220 3 роки тому +1

      @@CAMFORRESTER that was a really good run down. I have told everyone about it

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thanks mate I’m glad to hear that you enjoyed it! :) And thanks for sharing it also; much appreciated! 🙏🏼

    • @aratneerg1375
      @aratneerg1375 3 роки тому

      Love your comment.

  • @lukeheywood7334
    @lukeheywood7334 5 місяців тому +1

    One of the all time great rock drummers.. thankyou terrific doco

  • @klaustoth6982
    @klaustoth6982 3 роки тому +6

    thanks for this enjoyable documentary. moe's wild and driving "african-style" drumming was absolutely essential to the velvets's overall sound. love her sweet vocals on after hours.

  • @arnoldplotnick
    @arnoldplotnick 3 роки тому +3

    Wow. I can't believe I stumbled upon such a fabulous documentary. A perfect balance of concise and detailed, with lots of great photos and clips from interviews with Moe herself. I'm a huge Velvets fan, and have always lamented that her drumming skill and style has been sadly overlooked. With your track by track analysis, your documentary not only shows us what she did, but also how she did it. It really shows just how innovative she was. Well done.
    Back in the late '80s, I had the great pleasure of meeting and spending a little time with Moe. While studying for my Master's degree at the University of Florida, I became good friends with Kate Messer. Her boyfriend at the time, Mike Kostek, ran the Velvet Underground Appreciation Society. A few years later, Kate joined Moe's band. They came to Gainesville to rehearse and Moe needed a place to stay for the night. I had a spare room in my mobile home and offered to let her stay, and she accepted. We hung out and chatted late into the evening. The next morning, we all went out for breakfast. She gave me an 8 x 10 photo, which she autographed for me, and she also autographed all of my Velvets albums.
    Anyway, thanks again for this totally brilliant documentary.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for your comment, and what a wonderful story! I'm very glad you enjoyed the film, thanks for your support!

  • @russellurwin7396
    @russellurwin7396 3 роки тому +17

    Absolutley fantastic. i have been a VU fan since 1972 and in those days the only information available were the LP covers and liner notes. In the eighties a number of decent books appeared and when the internet grew a lot of bootlegs and footage emerged with recently a few seconds here and there colour film of the VU live courtesy of A. Warhol (i wish he had filmed it straight). There is quite a lot of photographs and a few clips i havent seen before. i can honestly say i have enjoyed this more and this includes offical TV documentaries etc well done. U2 have based their entire career on I'm set free (slight exaggeration). You must have ears of a bat to hear Moes drumming from the original recordings. hope you do a full breakdown of There she goes again at some point.Thanks again for doing this and i hope it is seen by Moe and reaches wide aclaim.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +7

      Thank you so much for your wonderful review Russell; it means so much, and especially so, coming from someone who has been a fan of the band's music for as long as you have. A lot of love went into making this, and it's great to receive it back in turn from fellow fans! I too hope it reaches Moe ♥.
      It's difficult to imagine how different my life would be now, if I'd never picked up that drumming book in my school library with the little Moe segment in it...I still can't explain exactly why I was so intrigued by it either, but she and the band really did change my life after that.
      Like yourself, I too was frustrated at the lack of available documentaries etc., since all there was at the time was Live MCMXCIII, which though visually fantastic, was at times actually quite frustrating (Lou did have a tendency to take the "never play [or sing] the same thing twice" phrase a bit too literally sometimes lol). The 1986 Southbank Show documentary didn't surface on UA-cam until sometime in the last decade, and other than the unofficial 'Under Review' documentary, it's literally just scraps here and there otherwise - and regardless, in anything I ever read or saw, I always felt that Moe's role was somewhat passed over, so for me it was time to put that right!
      It will be interesting to see what the new Todd Haynes documentary brings to light... =)

    • @baronsaturday9529
      @baronsaturday9529 3 роки тому +2

      Her son made a comment above and loved the docu, so he probably already send it to her!

  • @ilias4156
    @ilias4156 3 роки тому +4

    This answers so many baffling questions I have had, started listening in 1990, age 12. Makes so much sense, the sound and feel, so unique. Very nice. I believe I am more stoked on the drums in these recordings than ever. Cheers

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      I'm glad you found it informative! Indeed I'm sure I had many of the same questions as you over the years of listening since I was 12...thankfully all the obscure answers I was able to learn finally formed themselves into this documentary!

  • @ethanmanning938
    @ethanmanning938 Рік тому +3

    Her ability to masterfully keep the Velvet songs from spiraling out on tangents of madness without putting them in a cage was incredible!

  • @dominicking8089
    @dominicking8089 3 роки тому +7

    really wonderful stuff. have always thought Moe's drumming was perfect for the Velvets but this thoughtful, affection film really showed how adaptable and nuanced she was.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      It was indeed a match made in heaven! Thanks so much for your support 🙏🏼

    • @dominicking8089
      @dominicking8089 3 роки тому +1

      @@CAMFORRESTER all good my g, excited to see where you take this channel

  • @stevedocherty6240
    @stevedocherty6240 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for this there's something very moving about someone who seems quite genuine and unassuming ending up as this rock'n'roll legend. I have loved the Velvet Underground for most of my life and Moe was so important to their sound.

  • @kidbear8449
    @kidbear8449 3 роки тому +1

    One of the best film I have watched on youtube. Always loved Mo Tuckers drumming

  • @classic_joke
    @classic_joke Рік тому +6

    This video is truly a gift for all the velvet fans and music fans in general. Thank you very much. It was so insightful and the demonstrations were very interesting to see. I also appreciate that you know when to allow the music to speak for itself by showing us the most important parts of the recordings or shows and not cutting them out. I can imagine this might cause some copyright problems, so I'm extremely grateful to you for doing that, despite those issues. Your video truly made me appreciate Moe on a deeper and more understanding level.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  Рік тому +3

      I appreciate your comments - thank you. And yes you are correct, there were several copyright claims (I cannot monetise the video whatsoever) but it was worth the sacrifice to include said music/video, to ensure the film was as comprehensive as it could be, and thankfully it is still able to remain on here despite all the claims.
      I'm glad it was insightful and you enjoyed watching!

  • @derekparker8647
    @derekparker8647 4 місяці тому +1

    Cam Forrester!
    Thank You So much
    I was moved to tears
    The velvet underground changed my life
    Your film was amazing
    Touching
    And
    Well
    I’m gonna check out all your films ❤️

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  4 місяці тому

      It's very heartwarming to know the film has touched you in this way - thanks for taking the time to write your comment. I think if you liked this film, you will LOVE my Sterling Morrison documentary - ua-cam.com/play/PLXFuVjTBILlgbL7vPV_j8aZiZ2njZTpoY.html&si=T268WbU4IJzTLnsd

  • @haresbreathtarot
    @haresbreathtarot 3 роки тому +16

    Cam, this is a seriously WONDERFUL creation. Technical, Insightful, thoughtful, tender filmmaking with passion and integrity. Thank you so much x my partner and I are sharing it like mad with everyone we know who loves the Velvets like we do

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +3

      Wow that’s such wonderful feedback, I couldn’t be happier that it has come across so well…thank you so much! And thank you for sharing also! 🥰

  • @francoisescaig3517
    @francoisescaig3517 2 роки тому +1

    Dear sir, what's better : writing an average essay on Marcel Proust or producing the perfect, definitive documentary on a perhaps less-universal subject ? Certainly it is the second option. You've crafted a learned, precise, sensitive production with incredible images this lifelong fan had never seen before. Your extremely well-written commentary, which doesn't fall into any of the usual pitfalls of the documentary genre, is an an absolute gold standard. I personally usually deal with the written word moreso than with the Internet, being a Parisian bibliographer who specializes in rare books, and as such, I cannot stress enough how much I admire the precise and comprehensive quality of your work, for which you deserve the highest praise.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for your thoughtful words, it really means a lot. I'm so happy to hear of the impression this has made.
      Please make sure you're subscribed for notifications and keep an eye out for what's next - I have more Moe/VU-related material in progress right now, and should be uploaded within the next few weeks!

  • @loadedgunatx
    @loadedgunatx 2 роки тому +3

    I've been obsessed with Moe's drum style since the first time I heard the first album. This is a very in depth doc, I'm glad UA-cam recommended it.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  2 роки тому

      I'm glad it reached you! Thanks so much for your comment

  • @aredbee
    @aredbee 3 місяці тому +1

    Cam, this doc is incredibly excellent! As one who was thrilled and enchanted to be young at the birth of punk, and who had grown up on jazz, world, folk and classical, i've always loved to think and learn about influences and cross-polination in music. I love listening to older songs sometimes, now in my 60s, and hearing the roots of punk here and there in hindsight. Had a hunch VU were in the lineage, but it's cool to hear you pinpoint the moment "where punk begins"!
    Joy Division are one of my all-time cherished bands and until your doc i had no idea there was a connection between them and the Velvets. Also loved your comparison of Moe and Keith Moon.
    Have watched this twice so far and forwarded to friends. Thanks so, so very much for this brilliant and layered work!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 місяці тому

      @@aredbee Thank you so much! Since you enjoyed this I highly recommend you watch my new documentary 'STERLING. The Velvet Warrior', which goes into a whole new level of depth into the story of the band - ua-cam.com/video/obQ0x22GIVE/v-deo.htmlsi=7qwEGG0zdZhdzUm3

  • @guswanner3247
    @guswanner3247 3 роки тому +5

    Well Done Sir. Thank you for this work.

  • @ozsuncoast
    @ozsuncoast Рік тому +2

    Thanks Cam - I really enjoyed your video. Big fan of the Velvet Underground. I was 15 when I saw Lou in Brisbane, Australia. I can remember then being exposed to the back catalogue - especially Max's Live at Kansa City - I'm embarrassed to say that I assumed that 'Mo' Tucker was guy (sorry Mo). I was pleased to find out I was wrong. Mo rocks the drums mate so hard.

  • @psychinthevalleys5324
    @psychinthevalleys5324 3 роки тому +6

    This is a wonderful piece of work. I’ve loved the Velvets since I was 16 but you’ve made me love them even more. I know nothing about drumming but this was fascinating. I’m glad that Moe’s son has contacted you. It is really quite moving in places. I was lucky to see the Velvets during their reunion, at Glastonbury of all places. Moe was awesome. All the best to you for all your time and effort in making this. Cheers, Steve.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your comment, I'm glad the drumming aspect was of interest. And yes I've had quite a few people say that they found the film moving towards the end, which is wonderful as Moe's story moved me of course - which is why I wanted to make the film in the first place - so I'm so glad that's come across in the way I constructed and narrated the film.
      Hearing from Moe's son (and Moe herself since then) has been one of my proudest moments...very humbling, and incredibly rewarding for a life-long fan!

  • @DodgeDartSongs
    @DodgeDartSongs 6 місяців тому

    This is a revelation. It gives me a new appreciation for Mo’s musical contributions. And as a music maker, I see how much power can be generated with just a bass an snare. Who needs cymbals?

  • @dominiclewington
    @dominiclewington 3 роки тому +18

    I think it’s fair to say there were plenty of female drummers in the sixties, but none were as enigmatic as Mo!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +6

      Now that my friend is a word that I should’ve used in the documentary conclusion! ;)

  • @BenCDaugherty
    @BenCDaugherty Рік тому +2

    Hey Cam! Have you thought about making one of these videos about Lou, John, Doug, and Sterling’s gear? As always, I love what you are doing here!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  Рік тому +1

      It's on the list! I shall get to it at some point 😉

    • @ForARide
      @ForARide 10 місяців тому

      ​@@CAMFORRESTERI'm quite curious what you have to say about the Reed/Cale relationship, most observers having a very superficial viewpoint of the band, and making it all about Lou Reed.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  10 місяців тому

      ​@@ForARide My research findings on all of that will be revealed in the coming months ;)

  • @dk7934
    @dk7934 3 роки тому +7

    This is long overdue. And I particularly enjoyed the brilliant drum recreations you performed so that we can really see and hear what Moe was doing. Well done!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked the demonstrations! Thanks for watching!

  • @user-zx8de8op9l
    @user-zx8de8op9l 5 місяців тому

    Well done, I have been playing mostly self taught since 1990. I used to listen to my uncle play. I discovered this band in 1999 or 2000, when my dad read something about the band. My cousins 3 kids have all taken drum lessons, her oldest son wants to be a music teacher.

  • @MikeySKA
    @MikeySKA 3 роки тому +6

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
    Thank you for this, Cam! Cannot recommend this walkthrough of Moe's influence and style more highly. Just superb!!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thanks very much for saying so my friend! Please do share it out in any way you're able to!

    • @MikeySKA
      @MikeySKA 3 роки тому

      @@CAMFORRESTER Already done! My Twitter followers got a nice heads up! 👍

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks mate, gotta spread the word on Moe! She's too often overlooked as a figure in drumming history.

    • @MikeySKA
      @MikeySKA 3 роки тому

      @@CAMFORRESTER Absolutely. There's no VU sound without Moe. And if there's no VU sound, then 40+ years of bands afterwards don't sound the same either.

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 3 роки тому +2

    Well made, superb. Eclectic Moe. John Cale pops in to his hometown area here now and then, always under the radar, as usual. Peace and love from Wales.

  • @theuncoolbird
    @theuncoolbird 3 роки тому +7

    Beautiful documentary. It deserves more views.

    • @baronsaturday9529
      @baronsaturday9529 3 роки тому +1

      It's gonna get more views, the cult ones mostly take a bit of time, and when people realise how well done this one is, more people will take notice... Sharing will help too of course.

  • @catbwoy
    @catbwoy 3 місяці тому

    It occurred to me today that I'd like to find out more about Moe Tucker. I then found this documentary. It fill the bill bill perfectly. Thank you.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 місяці тому

      I'm glad it reached you - thanks for you comment! If you're interested in something more in-depth on the band, I recommend you watch my new documentary: 'Sterling. The Velvet Warrior' - ua-cam.com/video/obQ0x22GIVE/v-deo.html

  • @ergbudster3333
    @ergbudster3333 3 роки тому +11

    Amazing detail. Perhaps this is the way music production docs should be done? Full of details that music production oriented people would like to know. Music production and show business in general although I guess we don't call show business show business any more; now I guess it's media. Well, these people were doing media before most people even heard of the thing.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      I definitely concur! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼

  • @bletemita1
    @bletemita1 8 місяців тому

    I drummed for 25 years and after a 4 years hiatus I am trying to find my light and start again.Thank you, you helped me find myself again!

  • @saltrock2002
    @saltrock2002 3 роки тому +3

    VU Live at the Matrix. Mo's drumming really stands out. And that's why I gave this doc a try. Glad I did. Good doc, good work. Thanks

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      It was a powerful performance indeed! Thank you for taking the time to watch!

  • @jeffdixon847
    @jeffdixon847 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for unpacking Mo’s great work with the VU. Loved the drum demos. The VU have been hugely influential on Yo La Tengo as well. And another drummer who adopted Mo’s standing position is Mimi Parker from Low.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Just watched a video of her...she's even using mallets!

    • @ambientfairchild
      @ambientfairchild 3 роки тому

      Mimi and Low are also more modern legends

  • @GIBKEL
    @GIBKEL 3 роки тому +6

    Seeing your passion for The Velvet…have you ever listened to The Feelies? When I was getting into the Velvet Underground it was alongside The Feelies and Yo La Tengo. I so loved my youth and discovering music in the 80’s and early 90’s. There was some really great bands and they always name checked there roots so finding connections was easy, even before the internet. It was such intimate discovery as I worked in a record store, alongside older clerks who schooled me in 86’. Still one of the best jobs I ever had even though it was the lowest pay. On top of that, I seems to lose a quarter of my wages every two weeks.
    Enjoyed it immensely!
    Keep it up!

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      I haven't so far...but I will add them to my check-out list! Thanks so much for your comment!

    • @tomscholte603
      @tomscholte603 3 роки тому

      I was lucky enough to see The Feelies open for REM in 1987. Great gig!

  • @dougboczulak5896
    @dougboczulak5896 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the showcasing Mo.
    I have looked to see more of her play to no avail, until today

  • @reavsey1
    @reavsey1 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you very much for sharing this. Always been a big VU fan and they have been with me for most of my life influencing my own meanderings. So unique in many respects and Mo was an integral part of their sound. Thank you for breaking down her contribution and the insights. Wishing you luck with all you do. You are the man. :)

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +2

      You’re entirely welcome! Glad you enjoyed the documentary and thanks so much for the support! 🙏🏼

  • @thomaskauser8978
    @thomaskauser8978 Рік тому +1

    Cameo of Karen Carpenter added a classy touch to an excellent video filled doc. Never knew much about Warhol but can understand why he is considered a visionary.

  • @3340steve
    @3340steve 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent lesson on Moe Tucker's unique style. Thank you for posting this Mr. Forrester.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      You’re more than welcome, thanks for the support! 😉

  • @QBert996
    @QBert996 3 роки тому +1

    As a drummer and more importantly a life long V.U. fan...
    .Great Job, and Thank you!

  • @julius2790
    @julius2790 3 роки тому +4

    This is an amazing documentary! I have always loved her drumming and she seemed like the coolest person in interviews. Thanks so much for this.

  • @WilliamPhelpsIII
    @WilliamPhelpsIII Рік тому

    You are the #1 Velvet authority, the scholar who gets it absolutely right. Thanks.

  • @OffMyShelves
    @OffMyShelves 3 роки тому +13

    I absolutely loved every second of this! Top class video, great research, production and insights 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for the comment! 🙏🏼

  • @judithwilson9644
    @judithwilson9644 Рік тому +1

    Love her as she is unique but seems so down to earth thanks for the music I could not live without the velvet underground ❤

  • @cryco9897
    @cryco9897 3 роки тому +5

    I think I've seen everything there is to see on the VU and this was just brilliant, well done sir and thankyou

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thank you for such wonderful feedback! I’m so glad you liked it! :)

  • @seymoreklopps4524
    @seymoreklopps4524 2 роки тому

    Moe is great. With my nearly 70 years of lifetime, greetings from Germany. Have all their vinyls, thumbs up, thumbs up, thumbs up

  • @nilesspindrift1934
    @nilesspindrift1934 3 роки тому +4

    Really enjoyed this - I like your no nonsense presentation too. It only struck me tonight how Motorik some of her playing was, not just the patterns but also the way it pushes the song along. Anyway, thank you.

  • @xfreedwillx
    @xfreedwillx 3 роки тому +1

    Killer!!!! Fantastic Labor of Love Thank you

  • @smop
    @smop 3 роки тому +6

    This is incredible! I love the way you analyzed the drum parts for the different songs, a whole new perspective to the music for me, and I’ve loved the music for decades now.

    • @CAMFORRESTER
      @CAMFORRESTER  3 роки тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you found it informative!