How The Velvet Underground became the most influential band in history
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2024
- While they were a band, The Velvet Underground got almost no attention. But, since then, The Velvet Underground has become one of the most influential bands in the history of rock. This mini documentary tells their story.
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that first album has gotten me through so many bad times
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Ditto!👍
A very good, accessible, not too heady documentary of the band. Thanks for your effort producing it. Very much enjoyed.
Thank you!
a great job of research! thank you!
“The first Velvet Underground album sold only 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it formed a band.” Music is an extremely subjective medium, allowing room for a heap full of disagreements and criticisms to take place. With this in mind the most reliable measurement for artistic criticism is influence. love it or hate it, it is undeniable that the VU is one of - if not the most - influential bands of all time.
Excellent video! A lot of new info discovered here.
thank you for this one🙏
Thanks for watching!
I love how The Velvet Underground are shaping 2024 for me personally
Loved your Minutemen episode, back for the velvets.
Thanks for coming back!
Very good, bother!. Learned some new things about the individual members of the VU.
Man you’re doing really strong work and I appreciate it,
Thank you!
David Bowie: 'To me, the sound of the band was John Cale. That was confirmed a few years later when I worked with Lou on Transformer. John was the subversive element of the band, one of the most underrated musicians in rock history. That guy is a danger, a true character.'
Thanks for an objective and balanced review of the Velvets, not falling for the usual superficial and badly researched ones, claiming Lou Reed was the only relevant force within the band. Warhol and Nico would get a little attention, but the rest would be diliginty overlooked, especially John Cale, who should have been co-credited for the music on those two seminal lps! But unfortunately Reed's enormous ego would stand in the way.
excellent band history story telling with lots of interesting details
great video, this could be the best yet (although I still really like the Devo one!)
Thank you! I spent a long time on the research so that's nice to hear
I'm 62, grew up in the far south of the South island of New Zealand. Middle of nowhere. Can't remember now where or when I first heard the Velvet's first album, but I know "my life was changed by rock and roll".
Cheers Lou.
Love that!
awesome video, thank you! you should consider making a video over the strokes… which was heavily inspired by the vu :)
Definitely on the list - thank you!
Well done, great
Great show thank you! Don't worry about the pronunciation of Paffgen it's virtually unpronounceable in english due to the double accents or dots over the a, called Umlaut in German. It modifies the vowel sound. Some German users of an english keyboard add an e after the a and other vowels to get a near similar sound - try saying Paeffgen and you'll be close!!
Thank you!
Great work! You summed up their career perfectly. Lou Reed was talented and influential, but I have a hard time getting passed his prickly attitude.
You're definitely not alone in that opinion
If he’s good enough for a goddess like Laurie Anderson*, then he’s good enough for me. Her “PSA”s are here somewhere in a playlist and need to be backed up for preservation!
(*There are at least 16 ways I can have misspelled her name, but still a way better shot than me ever getting Kristin Hirsch right)
I have no room to ever criticize anyone for misspelling or mispronouncing names, that's like the trademark of my videos
love your videos, can you make one on The Smashing Pumpkins???? 🤩
The Velvets have long been one of my favourite band, took some getting used to initially but I have an affinity for TVU that will last my whole life
I've owned a copy of 'Andy Warhol' since the early 90's, back when I was at Uni. I got it at a used record store & when I first pulled the sleeve out, I was amazed to find a load of newspaper clippings about the 'Exploding Plastic Inevitable' & live reviews from US papers from the time. I've played that album so many times now that when the crackles start as it leads in to Sunday Morning, it's like welcoming an old friend. Personally, I think it's more ground breaking than Sgt Pepper.
At time 14:58 that is Eastman School of Music in Rochester NY, not Massachusetts. Excellent overview of the Velvets overall!
I discovered the VU back in 1983 when a co-worker gave me a mix cassette with "All Tomorrow's Parties" on it
Remember reading somewhere that was Andy Warhol's favourite song as well.
YESSSSSS
Good video on a great band. One thing I thought. Lou got Hepatitis at college and that maybe played a part in his liver problems later in life (not just the liquor).
As a native Pittsburgher, the Warhol connection meant I always knew about this band - Lou and Nico of course - but never took the time to dig. Thanks for making this, awesome watch.
Thanks for watching!
Rather bold statement
Pretty good documentary! Needs more footage of the band and less footage of the narrator 😉
Agreed. Unfortunately being not well loved at that time means there’s not a ton of footage of them
YES
also, you mentioned how the musical sound of the group changed from time to time. I think it would be helpful if you played excerpts from some of those songs so we could see how the changes happened.
It would be. Unfortunately, UA-cam doesn't allow that with its Copyright system.
You missed one very important detail on why the first album flopped. It wasn't the lyrics or the loudness, what killed the sales momentum was a legal delay. The album came out in mid-March, but had to be pulled out of stores after a few days because some actor named Eric Emerson sued the band and label for using his image without permission. Apparently his face appeared projected on the lightshow on the back cover. The album was pulled from circulation, and they had to airbrush the image out of the back cover. This delayed the album by 3 months, and by then the hype of Sgt. Pepper & the summer of love totally overshadowed them, and the album bombed commercially. It still wouldn't have been a smash hit, but if its release hadn't been delayed because of the lawsuit, it may have at least made the top 100, maybe even scraped the top 40. Unfortunately the publicity had slowed down by the time V.U. & Nico returned to the stores. The lyrics didn't help by then, but 3 months earlier would've made a big difference, by June the whole scene had shifted to the west coast and San Francisco, and their commercial downward spiral began....
flopped well whatever i heared it in ´77 i was 7 but i remember i heared sounds coming from the attic i was intriged went up and sat myself on a cupboard and listened i only ask my brother ´what is this´ he said ´this is the velvet underground´
i was blown away it was in the same time i discovered hendrix
it was quite something for me i was 7 not a rookie but those two hehh
"He didn't know Lou Reed from Doug Yule"
28:34- Colombia hired Norman Dolph (in the caption is read he was born in Oklahoma, in 1939). Norman is the town I was born in, in the state of Oklahoma, 1978. What town was Norman Dolph born in?
He was born in Tulsa
I do love the Velvets. Over 40 years ago, I saw Lou, Nico and John live (seperately). Cale even three times. They were extremely influentual. Massively underrated, all true. Yet, to this day, they're only known to a small minority of the people in the western world (14% of the world population) and virtually unknown in the rest of the world. The Velvet Underground did not change the world. The Beatles, however, did. ua-cam.com/video/z4ED8AU9XxQ/v-deo.html Your statement "The Velvet Underground became the most influential band in history" is more informative about the limitations of your perspective, than about any kind of reality. Duke Ellington's band was more influentual. Miles Davis LP Kind of Blue was more influentual. The Motown house band was more influentual. Franco from Zaire, his band was more influentual, all over sub-Saharan Africa, an area much larger than the combined western world, with about half a billion more people living there. Are any of these at all on your radar?
It’s a UA-cam title, it’s designed to get you to click
@@soundofhistory_ If you want to be trusted, be as truthful as you can.
Do one of these on Mclusky. Or Billy Childish.
yes
I wish you would spend a few minutes showing us the lineup of songs on each of their albums. You’re assuming we’re more familiar with their music then we really are.
after decades of absorbing VU, i realize now that its absolutely about the experience , rather than the form...
Got it right with the 2nd pronunciation at 25:00 -- it's pronounced PEFF-gen, harg 'g' :) That said though; I've never heard anyone say "Phagen" :P :P :P :P
I'm pretty sure when I heard "phagen" was when I gave up on trying to do it right haha
Not trying to be argumentative but saying they are the MOST influential band in history is rather bold. It's just such a definitive statement. I won't disagree that they can be considered very influential but it can easily be argued that The Beatles or Kraftwerk deserve this designation.
Well, the main point of the title is to get you to click on the video. Most UA-cam titles are hyperbolic, it's just kinda the way it goes now
They are
@@TR-oj1bu they could be. but by what criteria do you make that judgement? Because like I said, it's a very definitive statement. Simply saying they are the MOST influential doesn't make it so.
The VU were cool...but more influential than the Beatles???
Can we get a video on Deep Purple ane the early 1970s hard rock scene prior to the Punk/Metal movement. I think bands like Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Black Sabbath all completely changed music forever because of the progressive rock movement. Thanks!
Don't get me wrong...I love Lou Reed and The Velvet Underground,but most influential band ever!? Like moreso than The Beatles!? A band that Lou Reed famously hated as it happens,though that's quite beside the point.
It's hyperbolic because it's a UA-cam video and the titles are there to get you to click
@@soundofhistory_ fair enough.
Nah, it's correct. VU smokes the Beatles as well imo, at least they brought up Yoko Ono. Love Plastic Ono Band and Fly
@@jackreeder215 that is a reply designed for the sole purpose of eliciting a reaction if I have ever read one. You'd be extremely hard pressed to convince me otherwise. Had you brought up The Claypool/Lennon Delirium,I may have been inclined to believe you.
"At least they brought up Yoko Ono"
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I believe that it was Edie Sedgwick who recorded "Live at Max's"--confirm, someone, if you would.
Every source I’ve ever seen says it was Brigid Polk with Danny Fields being the one to suggest turning them into an album. In the summer of 1970, Edie was in California and going in and out of psychiatric hospitalization
Janes Addiction and Perry Farrel even more so.
Lou was right. Niko sucked. They sound way better with just Lou singing
Oh please…stop gushing. They were a good band, sure. As for subtleties and nuances, give us a break. It’s rock music and attempts to hipstfy and intellectualize it are pretty silly.
Sure, but they were still important.
Time for you to read a book.
Allowing people to perceive and interpret media how they want would be a much cooler thing for you to do.
I love this band! I didn’t know they where immigrants. Interesting how much immigrants can influence music, my favorite new genre ironically comes from Miami, and is a Cuban immigrant, hope you enjoy ua-cam.com/video/ZBKIUi1eG1A/v-deo.htmlsi=MQvz9jXcVG5XsGCP CC is English, and thanks for putting this together, super informative! I had no idea about a lot of this!