MYbe for Rooney. As it exposed him as he never trained or created a quality fighter ever. He still has a gym He sounds like a bitter woman. Just as he took mike to court over “ mike said inwould be his lifetime trainer” There was no contract at all. Just some bullshit wanting more money as Rooney made 2 million for the spinks. You guys are parrots. And didn’t follow or ever hear the facts of the story
He tried to sue tyson and get a cut off everyone if mikes fights until he retired. Rooney a case. “ mike told me I would be his trainer for his entire career” What a compassionate trainer. No contract either just a leech. Name another not even good but just anybody Rooney has ever trained in the last 35 years
@@oldironsides4107 Tyson's career and life could've been all the better with Rooney at his corner EVEN AT THE EXPENSE of Rooney getting a considerable cut...Tyson with King et al. not only worsened him professionally, but also personally
The sad thing is, the only one who wouldve followed in Cus footsteps was Rooney. He learned Cus style of Peekaboo and was enhancing mike as a pro as Cus would have wanted. These Leaches dragged mike away. King pure brainwashed Mike into not needing Rooney anymore and that he will make more money under Cus and Tyson was an emotional young man who was easy to manipulate... its sad because as soon as Mike went with King’s trainers he was no longer Mike. He stopped slipping his head, he would only occasionly do an inside slip which he oponents started to read.. he completely stopped bobbing n weaving.. Cus used to tell him always “move your head Mike” and most importantly Mike stopped using both hands. He tried looking for that KO punch all the time which was the opposite style of the Young mike who threw ferocious combination on the inside punches in bunches and shifting using footwork for angles... he stopped all of that and just tried landing a leaping left hook in all his fights.. its sad because we look at a “prime” tyson now as the one who beat Berbick n spinks but Mike shouldve evovled from that and turned into a different breed of boxer from mastering the Peekaboo and gaining knowledge from previous fights. I honestly beleive if he stayed with Rooney and rooney was motivated and they continued to work hard together, Mike couldve been the best boxer of all time or at least levelling the best of all time... but life had other plans for Mike.... either way im just happy for Mike that he sorted himself out now and left that toxic enerrgy behind.. mike is a beautiful man now and i think Cus would be proud of where Mike is now in life.. he has found his peace and just wants to grow his soul.
I agree Rooney would have been the only one to keep Mike on track . Although Teddy Atlas knew the style , just as well as Rooney . And could have done the same . But his relationship was damaged with more than Rooney .
Rooney was the last to try protect Tyson from girls, drugs, alcohol and the evil don King.. it's so sad how It turned out. Mike never spoke about Kevin in 32 years, sign of guiltiness and remorse.
@@Xavi-TenisHe knows he fucked up those situations so I doubt it. To be young and rich and than old and a little bit wiser, you live with a little resentment towards yourself for pass decisions.
It's so sad although I don't know the full situation I've always liked Kevin Rooney he seems like such a genuine guy, and it's a also upsetting Tyson never speaks about him publicly. The wisdom of boxing this guy has it is such a shame for it never to be spoken about. I hope they meet and sort it out in the future.
I would say quick downfall, only a few fights later he took his 1st loss. But losing cus d amato was the real problem, if he lived 10 years longer, mikes whole life probably wouldve been different.
@@spamham964 He may not speak publicly about Kevin, but in his book, Iron Mike, he talks about Kevin quite a bit and clearly says how he respects him and loved the guy. He never has bad things to say about Kevin. They both looked at each other as brothers.
Every good trainer tries to sue you and take you to court because you claim “ mike said inwould be his trainer for life” He’s totally full of shit and you can see how bitter how bitter and money hungry he is
Yes Kevin was a boxer trained by the legendary Cus D’Amato. Cus “discovered” Tyson & died at age 77, 9 months into Tyson’s pro career. Rooney trained Tyson, loved him & protected him. Don King resented that relationship & destroyed it because neither Rooney nor Tyson were sophisticated enough to prevent it. After firing Rooney, Tyson had friends & actors training him & working his corner & this Bruno fight showed it. Although Tyson won, his undisciplined training from this point forward became more evident & led to him getting knocked out by Buster Douglas.
@jallal Kevin Rooney hasn't spoken with Tyson since 1989. When he was training Vinny he'd see Tyson at fights, but they never spoke. There is another clip on here where he talks about all this at his gym upstate but who really cares anyway.
Seems like Tyson is most ashamed of how badly he screwed this man over. I also have never heard him speak about Rooney in 3 decades of interviews and media.
I'm so gutted that these two split... Kevin obviously trained mike the right way and it worked.. Tyson got hit so much in the ring since leaving Rooney...
Went from the best prime heavyweight of all time, to a good fighter, to an average joe. If you understand boxing you know that no heavyweight in history could have beaten Mike Tyson under Rooney and Cus. It's almost like Cus just needed an extra 3 years to guide mike before passing.
They were able to adjust him in the corner very well too. He was having issues with Tucker and Kevin advised to start going to the body. Mike gained ground little by little and by round 4 was dominant.
Most people don't know who became Mike Tyson's trainer after Rooney.. it was Aaron Snowell and Jay Bright. Snowell was from a small Pennsylvania town and had never fought and never trained a fighter by himself. Jay Bright was Mike's friend from the Catskill gym. That was the set up for a couple fights before he went to prison. AFRER he got locked up his trainer was Stacey Mckinley. He was out of Detroit, a disciple of Emanuel Steward who trained James Toney and Gerald McClellan. He was a good trainer but didn't have the same style and Mike didn't have the same focus. He stayed with Mike pretty much till the end... you'll see him in the corner in every fight from McNeely at least to Lewis fight. He's a great trainer and knows boxing like an encyclopedia.
Mike was never the same after this. We never once saw him in peak form again. The era of Iron Mike was over, and yet, even a diminished version of Mike Tyson still proved to be formidable, but far from that ideal fighter Kevin Rooney and Cus created.
Tyson was never the same after Rooney was let go. This was Tyson's worst mistake, worse than Robin Givens, Don King, all of it. If Tyson had just kept Rooney as his trainer he would have never lost. Rooney was, in my opinion, the best trainer in boxing during his era and Mike listened to him. It didn't take long after Rooney was let go for Mike to end up losing it all. SAD
It wasn't just keeping Rooney as a trainer. It was the lifestyle that got to Tyson. Maybe Rooney could have controlled Mike, but I believe that only Cus could truly control him. Once Tyson became super famous around 1987/1988 he got caught up in all the glamour and fame, then became a drug addict. Even today he's still an addict, you wont see him sober, and if you do I bet he'd be in an agitated mood
@@GoGetYourShinebox You're forgetting Teddy Atlas. He could've definitely controlled Mike and that was another very stupid mistake that Tyson made, namely screwing things up with Teddy Atlas.
@@TemurTheConqeuror He did a lot of coke in the 90s and smoked a lot of weed. You not heard Steve O’s story of Mike packing a emptied cigarette with blow?
The scene in King Kong, in which Jack Black’s character says, “Love killed the beast,” is paradigmatic of Tyson’s downfall: Robin Givens beat him before Buster Douglass ever did.
Supposedly givens and her mother helped to break Tyson down and weaken him within his household. I don't know if this was all master planned by someone bigger, but it may have been.
He's still the greatest fighter I've ever seen at the peak of his abilities which was when he was on his way to the title. Tyson at 18-19 would've challenged anyone in the world. A year later and he was at the top. This is when he ate and breathed boxing when Jimmy Jacobs was still around.
As good as Rooney was for Mike, there’s one thing he never got Mike to do, and that’s to stop putting his hands behind the opponents backs and give them a free ride. They were able to survive the distance because Mike would put his hands behind their backs and let them hold him so he could rest.
Tyson still not man enough or smart enough to publicly apologize to Rooney and Cayton for what he did. Maybe bc that one decision screwed up his life badly.
@@elitecasting5391 Funny you mention that. I just watched a 2012 interview with Rooney and he was clearly struggling with speech. Are you sure it's dementia or the effects of boxing?
Jimmy Jacobs was the man after Cus who kept Tyson on track. Once he died it was all over, he was just too good too soon. He matured in the ring a lot sooner than he matured out of it.
This man, right here, is the very crux of Mike Tyson's career. He's the hinge with which Tyson's all-time status rests as one of the top ten greatest heavyweights vs. one of the TWO greatest ever. An absolute modern-day tragedy of the lure of money and fame over the discipline and focus that got him to the pinnacle of the sport in the first place. Once Rooney and Bill Cayton lost his focus to Don King (the Donald Trump of boxing) it was all lost. Again, the definitive American tragedy.
@@kid--presentable what would you like to know. I'm from catskil trained at the gym started when I was 14 rooney ran the gym with a lady cus D'Amato was real sick when I started never met him. He passed away shortly after I started training wish I would have met him
He is right if he had of stayed with cayton he would of made 300 million more.cayton was already independently rich and always got the best deals for mike.they actually set up a retirement fund for Tyson.not sure if that is still around
i feel that cus and rooney felt so confident with the superiority of tyson that it must have resembled like the manhattan project in ww2. they knew that what they had in theyere hands was so powerfull and overwhelming that it could change the whole game totaly. It must have been a special feeling and a rare event that you have the answer in a game where everybody is just guessing. Man only to wish for such power. Many think they have it but only few realy do.
Jay Bright was worthless. He didnt have an Enswell for the fight with Buster Douglas. So they put cold water in a rubber glove that looked like a condom. Tyson was a real tough boxer to corral in his younger days. I bet if Iron Mike got real, he would admit Cayton and Rooney had a higher regard for him as a human being than Don King.....
When Tyson departures from Kevin Rooney that was the end of No Tomorrow because Custom Auto would not want have had that done but at that point might Isis mind was filled with confusion and disappointment
I feel that if Rooney would train Tyson NOW ... for these League of Legends fights ... Mike would be beautiful in the ring again. He is great in the ring vs Roy Jones. But with Rooney training him ... Beautiful.
Hey folks ! Good book to read is Fire and Fear by Jose Torres. Talks about the fraternity of Cus Damato acolytes. Cayton and Jimmy Jacobs were part of the inner group. Tyson was destined for greatness if he stayed with the original group!
Probably would have gone undefeated if he kept the original corner. They were constantly adding more moves to Mike's Arsenal. Ray Leonard said through the 80's that he's constantly improving
Kevin Rooney is like the last of a few OLD SCHOOl respectful ,stand up guys that give Mad Respect to CUS and if you notice he doesn't say " MY " training he says keeping and training what "CUS" taught! That says it all
Mike Tyson made peace with everyone, even apologized to Teddy Atlas, why the fuck hasn't he talked to Kevin Rooney yet? There will come a time when it's too late. Besides, Rooney was right when saying people throw Cus' name around and don't know what it really means to "do it for Cus".
Mike said i didnt want kevin to go i like kevin & his style of fighting but king an givens & mother did a good job & in this fight mike was sliping inside & not throwing the punch so it was fast to see mike go down hill shame
Love Kevin Rooney. Wish they would have Tyson do a full breakdown of all his trainers in his career; strengths and weaknesses. I’d love to have mike compare guys like Teddy and Kevin and then later managers like Roach and Snowell, and who’s the guy with him when he fought Ruddock?? He was pretty well know I just forget his name
@@Red-rp4ks yeah Giachetti was with mike for some of the biggest fights of his career. Would love to hear a serious breakdown from Mike comparing his trainers through the years but I don't think we will get one. The closest we might get is someone like Teddy Atlas giving some analysis on Mikes different trainers through the years. Like Roach for example, sounds like a retard in interviews, but is a genius trainer?"
@@Infinite0396 Kevin Rooney, Aaron Snowell, Jay bright, Richie Giachetti, Stacey Mckinley, Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach, Jeff Fenech were the coaches of Mike Tyson in his whole Professional career. But for me Kevin Rooney was the best for Mike. ✌️✌️
not sure. probably marrying robin was worse. and hiring king. reason I say this is tyson was looking decent under trainer giachetti after Douglas loss.
These peoples influenced mike so much. Tyson's hand movements when he speaks are exactly the same as rooney.. the worst thing they both did was splitting ways, don king has a special place reserved in hell
The thing people ignore is that Tyson was just a kid. Who is there that can say they were still hanging with the same group from when they were 14 ? EVERYONE gets bored and goes in different directions growing up. Just saying
bigdaddy4069 Good point. And also worth mentioning is the huge fame/spotlight put on Tyson at a very tender age. Hard for a lot of people to deal with, especially an angry kid from the streets who had a crap upbringing like Tyson.
Mike Tyson should have never got rid of Kenneth and Rooney he needed Kevin Rooney for that James buster Douglas fight and especially for holyfield he could have been much more Superior than holyfield if you would have stayed with Kevin Rooney Tyson could at least bought Kevin Rooney with him and let him tour with him but half the time Tyson wanted to do what he wanted to do I'll be thinking a lot about that with Tyson could have been something what I could have been
Tyson was on top in boxing but at the bottom in the real world. Deception and manipulation is what the real ruthless ppl have! Rooney was Great for tyson ....
Say Mike Honor"s The 3yrs Left In The Contract...He Was 38 - 0 !!!! Pretty Sure Mike Would Of Broke Marciano"s Record, Been Undefeated & Would Have Been Up To Him If Continued On !!!! His Fight"s $$$$ Wise Would Have Been Astronomical & Would Have Beaten Holyfield, Lennox, Bowe, Would Of Had All His Money !!!! , No Rape Charge, A Serious Shame All Around That Jacob"s At Such Young Age Had To Pass !!!!....
Tyson never had the discipline to handle to Women, Money & the likes of Don King. He was just kid, with the majority of society wanting to see his demise
Tyson definitely behaved like a traitor to the D'Amato team. He couldn't confront people who had right principles starting with Teddy Atlas, and then Rooney and Claiton. He chosed ex-criminal Don King.
@ Tyson could reconcile with Rooney and Bill before he died. He even asked Teddy Atlas for forgiveness occasionally when he met him on a boxing event. Tyson was young and etc but he did what he did to Rooney, Bill and other guys who were his family. And Tyson understands that that's why he couldn't confront meet to Rooney, Bill. You may lesson to Steve Lott's opinion in his interviews who was in D'Amato team.
Dumbest decision Tyson made (on top of screwing things up with Teddy Atlas). I freaking hate Don King so much. One of the most terrible human-beings to ever walk.
I can only imagine what Tyson would say to 90% of these comments, which seem to suggest that Kevin Rooney contributed to some of Mike's success. Kevin could've been replaced by anyone who goes on early morning runs. And they all fought the peep a boo style and Mike knew it better than them all and didn't need Rooney teaching him, Tyson actually connected better with Teddy Atlas than Kevin Rooney. Kevin was in the right place at the right time and became part of team Tyson because his own career sucked. Now Rooney carries the same air of entitlement that has our whole country going up in flames, Mike wasn't his boy and Tyson''s career would've been the same with or without him.
WRONG! His skills started to erode in the first Bruno fight. Compared to when they were starting to peak in the Tubbs fight. The Spinks fight should of never happened! There was a sincere bond within the original team. Tyson Read The Fire and the Fear by Jose Torres. The country is in flames because criminals who don't give a fuck about George Floyd ,you , me , or anyone else hijacked the protest.
So your trying to say tyson splitting with rooney and signing for king had no effect on his career. Catch yourself on you idiot. Everyone knows tyson went downhill big time as soon as he split with rooney. Tyson broke his contract with rooney , so he should have a sense of entitlement for the work he put in.
damn shame tyson let rooney go. even bigger shame associating with the wrong ppl ie givens & king. but tbh he had achieved everything in boxing by this stage. and at only the age of 22 ie become the champ, then undisputed, then beat the longstanding champ of the 80s Holmes, then beating the lineal champ spinks. nothing else to achieve & no one left to beat.
It's true that Tyson Is a great boxer...but he said Clearly that he was a bad person...all of us surfers abusement...in the third Worlds that Is not a good reason to participante in bad behaviour...he was in the Fisrt World at that point, so what was the problem??? Great boxer...Bad person???
Rooney was part of team D'mato, who never flourished as an independent trainer. He lost his job because he had no discipline with his mouth, he's an asshole. Tyson lost the belt cause he lost his hunger and determination, like most every champion eventually deals with. It doesn't make them failures, just not as rich as before. Rooney was along for the ride and has since shown his lack of relevance.
Worst thing Tyson ever did was leave Rooney
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True
x3 true!
Tyson has done much worse.
MYbe for Rooney. As it exposed him as he never trained or created a quality fighter ever.
He still has a gym
He sounds like a bitter woman. Just as he took mike to court over “ mike said inwould be his lifetime trainer”
There was no contract at all. Just some bullshit wanting more money as Rooney made 2 million for the spinks.
You guys are parrots. And didn’t follow or ever hear the facts of the story
Even after the separation of Rooney and Tyson ...Rooney was still rooting for Mike .....says it all.... Kevin is a stand up guy
He tried to sue tyson and get a cut off everyone if mikes fights until he retired.
Rooney a case. “ mike told me I would be his trainer for his entire career”
What a compassionate trainer. No contract either just a leech.
Name another not even good but just anybody Rooney has ever trained in the last 35 years
@@oldironsides4107 teddy is the better trainer
@@oldironsides4107 Tyson's career and life could've been all the better with Rooney at his corner EVEN AT THE EXPENSE of Rooney getting a considerable cut...Tyson with King et al. not only worsened him professionally, but also personally
@@cinesanti7 Facts
@@oldironsides4107 World champion Vinny Paz
Kevin Rooney is not just an amazing trainer but a truely honourable man.
I guess......isnt that just normal, to want to try to do the right thing and be a decent human being?
@@SA77888yeah...no one said otherwise
I would love to see Kevin Rooney on the Hotboxin' podcast
Same here my man
No cap
He has dimentia
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@@jamesben9589 Sad. So it's too late now. Mike Tyson is an asshole.
Kevin and Mike have the same high pitched voice. Amazing how they talk just alike.
The sad thing is, the only one who wouldve followed in Cus footsteps was Rooney. He learned Cus style of Peekaboo and was enhancing mike as a pro as Cus would have wanted. These Leaches dragged mike away. King pure brainwashed Mike into not needing Rooney anymore and that he will make more money under Cus and Tyson was an emotional young man who was easy to manipulate... its sad because as soon as Mike went with King’s trainers he was no longer Mike. He stopped slipping his head, he would only occasionly do an inside slip which he oponents started to read.. he completely stopped bobbing n weaving.. Cus used to tell him always “move your head Mike” and most importantly Mike stopped using both hands. He tried looking for that KO punch all the time which was the opposite style of the Young mike who threw ferocious combination on the inside punches in bunches and shifting using footwork for angles... he stopped all of that and just tried landing a leaping left hook in all his fights.. its sad because we look at a “prime” tyson now as the one who beat Berbick n spinks but Mike shouldve evovled from that and turned into a different breed of boxer from mastering the Peekaboo and gaining knowledge from previous fights. I honestly beleive if he stayed with Rooney and rooney was motivated and they continued to work hard together, Mike couldve been the best boxer of all time or at least levelling the best of all time... but life had other plans for Mike.... either way im just happy for Mike that he sorted himself out now and left that toxic enerrgy behind.. mike is a beautiful man now and i think Cus would be proud of where Mike is now in life.. he has found his peace and just wants to grow his soul.
Most of what you say is right. However there is still Tom Patti; Billy White and George Young continuing the legacy of Cus's system aka Peek A Boo !
💯 agree
Couldn't have said it better, well said
Well said and accurate.
I agree Rooney would have been the only one to keep Mike on track . Although Teddy Atlas knew the style , just as well as Rooney . And could have done the same . But his relationship was damaged with more than Rooney .
Rooney was the last to try protect Tyson from girls, drugs, alcohol and the evil don King.. it's so sad how It turned out. Mike never spoke about Kevin in 32 years, sign of guiltiness and remorse.
Yes that right, mike never again talk about kevin . Im just curious if someone asq to him
@@Xavi-TenisHe knows he fucked up those situations so I doubt it. To be young and rich and than old and a little bit wiser, you live with a little resentment towards yourself for pass decisions.
kevin was the last good man tyson lost from his side that contributed to his slow down fall
It's so sad although I don't know the full situation I've always liked Kevin Rooney he seems like such a genuine guy, and it's a also upsetting Tyson never speaks about him publicly. The wisdom of boxing this guy has it is such a shame for it never to be spoken about. I hope they meet and sort it out in the future.
I would say quick downfall, only a few fights later he took his 1st loss. But losing cus d amato was the real problem, if he lived 10 years longer, mikes whole life probably wouldve been different.
@@spamham964 He may not speak publicly about Kevin, but in his book, Iron Mike, he talks about Kevin quite a bit and clearly says how he respects him and loved the guy. He never has bad things to say about Kevin. They both looked at each other as brothers.
Every good trainer tries to sue you and take you to court because you claim “ mike said inwould be his trainer for life”
He’s totally full of shit and you can see how bitter how bitter and money hungry he is
@@anthonymatrone7970 Yep. It was already visible in that fight with Bruno.
He sounds like a white Tyson, lol
Yes Kevin was a boxer trained by the legendary Cus D’Amato. Cus “discovered” Tyson & died at age 77, 9 months into Tyson’s pro career. Rooney trained Tyson, loved him & protected him. Don King resented that relationship & destroyed it because neither Rooney nor Tyson were sophisticated enough to prevent it. After firing Rooney, Tyson had friends & actors training him & working his corner & this Bruno fight showed it. Although Tyson won, his undisciplined training from this point forward became more evident & led to him getting knocked out by Buster Douglas.
lol
Tbh cus sounded like that. It rubbed off
@@r.williamcomm7693 your comment is hella unnecessary to be a reply for “he sounds like a white Tyson” lol
I would love to see Mike and Rooney re unite
It's 35+ years later and the 2 haven't spoken a word to each other.
He apologized to atlas tho
@jallal Kevin Rooney hasn't spoken with Tyson since 1989. When he was training Vinny he'd see Tyson at fights, but they never spoke. There is another clip on here where he talks about all this at his gym upstate but who really cares anyway.
Seems like Tyson is most ashamed of how badly he screwed this man over. I also have never heard him speak about Rooney in 3 decades of interviews and media.
its a disgrace!
He did talk about Kevin briefly during his first Joe Rogan appearance. Check it out.
cus damato and Kevin Rooney are the man who made tyson
Jim Jacobs
@@whatever_it_takes6691jim jacobs wasnt a trainer he was a boxing manager
I'm so gutted that these two split... Kevin obviously trained mike the right way and it worked.. Tyson got hit so much in the ring since leaving Rooney...
Went from the best prime heavyweight of all time, to a good fighter, to an average joe. If you understand boxing you know that no heavyweight in history could have beaten Mike Tyson under Rooney and Cus. It's almost like Cus just needed an extra 3 years to guide mike before passing.
They were able to adjust him in the corner very well too. He was having issues with Tucker and Kevin advised to start going to the body. Mike gained ground little by little and by round 4 was dominant.
Most people don't know who became Mike Tyson's trainer after Rooney.. it was Aaron Snowell and Jay Bright. Snowell was from a small Pennsylvania town and had never fought and never trained a fighter by himself. Jay Bright was Mike's friend from the Catskill gym. That was the set up for a couple fights before he went to prison. AFRER he got locked up his trainer was Stacey Mckinley. He was out of Detroit, a disciple of Emanuel Steward who trained James Toney and Gerald McClellan. He was a good trainer but didn't have the same style and Mike didn't have the same focus. He stayed with Mike pretty much till the end... you'll see him in the corner in every fight from McNeely at least to Lewis fight. He's a great trainer and knows boxing like an encyclopedia.
Funny how Mike and Kevin have the same voice. 😂😂. Both legends. Thanks for the memories gentlemen. What a ride it was.
Only 1 man with a high pitched lisp is permitted in the Tyson camp
Mike was never the same after this. We never once saw him in peak form again.
The era of Iron Mike was over, and yet, even a diminished version of Mike Tyson still proved to be formidable, but far from that ideal fighter Kevin Rooney and Cus created.
Tyson was never the same after Rooney was let go. This was Tyson's worst mistake, worse than Robin Givens, Don King, all of it. If Tyson had just kept Rooney as his trainer he would have never lost. Rooney was, in my opinion, the best trainer in boxing during his era and Mike listened to him. It didn't take long after Rooney was let go for Mike to end up losing it all. SAD
It wasn't just keeping Rooney as a trainer. It was the lifestyle that got to Tyson. Maybe Rooney could have controlled Mike, but I believe that only Cus could truly control him. Once Tyson became super famous around 1987/1988 he got caught up in all the glamour and fame, then became a drug addict. Even today he's still an addict, you wont see him sober, and if you do I bet he'd be in an agitated mood
@@GoGetYourShinebox You're forgetting Teddy Atlas. He could've definitely controlled Mike and that was another very stupid mistake that Tyson made, namely screwing things up with Teddy Atlas.
@@GoGetYourShineboxhe isn’t drug addict bro tf are u talking about
@@truebeliever786Rooney is much better than atlas
@@TemurTheConqeuror He did a lot of coke in the 90s and smoked a lot of weed. You not heard Steve O’s story of Mike packing a emptied cigarette with blow?
The scene in King Kong, in which Jack Black’s character says, “Love killed the beast,” is paradigmatic of Tyson’s downfall: Robin Givens beat him before Buster Douglass ever did.
Supposedly givens and her mother helped to break Tyson down and weaken him within his household. I don't know if this was all master planned by someone bigger, but it may have been.
Damn cus rolled in grave after this atrocity
He did Kevin dirty . He paid for it though . One yr after that interview he would no longer be , Undisputed HW Champ of the world.
Mike needs to go and visit all his trainers and apologise what he did to them
If Tyson kept Rooney he would have been the GOAT!
With Kevin Rooney, maybe Mike Tyson would have been the greatest boxer of all time.
He would. He would've beaten Marciano's record. He could've been the best of all time.
I quite sure of that, 200%
He's still the greatest fighter I've ever seen at the peak of his abilities which was when he was on his way to the title. Tyson at 18-19 would've challenged anyone in the world. A year later and he was at the top. This is when he ate and breathed boxing when Jimmy Jacobs was still around.
As good as Rooney was for Mike, there’s one thing he never got Mike to do, and that’s to stop putting his hands behind the opponents backs and give them a free ride. They were able to survive the distance because Mike would put his hands behind their backs and let them hold him so he could rest.
yeah he is less active once inside the clinch
It΄s really disappointing the fact that these two men gone die having this great story, and this sad conclusion.
I agree w you 1000%... what could have been. Best they can do now is make amends
Tyson still not man enough or smart enough to publicly apologize to Rooney and Cayton for what he did. Maybe bc that one decision screwed up his life badly.
Ummm Bill Cayton passed away in 2003 and Rooney has dementia.
@@elitecasting5391 Is that true about Rooney having dementia now?
i saw it on wikipedia. But that's not a reliable source.
@@elitecasting5391
Funny you mention that. I just watched a 2012 interview with Rooney and he was clearly struggling with speech. Are you sure it's dementia or the effects of boxing?
Brothers lost ... sad for Kevin. They could’ve won for decades ... king is a serpent.
You can feel Kevin heartbroken, and a lot went downhill from here.
Kevin Rooney did the best Tyson impression ever. He sounds exactly like Tyson.
Jimmy Jacobs was the man after Cus who kept Tyson on track. Once he died it was all over, he was just too good too soon. He matured in the ring a lot sooner than he matured out of it.
Iron Mike was never the same after Kevin Rooney left.
Not the worst thing Mike ever did but 1 of em!!!
This man, right here, is the very crux of Mike Tyson's career. He's the hinge with which Tyson's all-time status rests as one of the top ten greatest heavyweights vs. one of the TWO greatest ever. An absolute modern-day tragedy of the lure of money and fame over the discipline and focus that got him to the pinnacle of the sport in the first place.
Once Rooney and Bill Cayton lost his focus to Don King (the Donald Trump of boxing) it was all lost. Again, the definitive American tragedy.
Donald Trump is a man of honor. Don king is not. You have drunk the stupidity cool aid. Trump did so much for boxing. Educate yourself fool.
The HBO music during this time period was fantastic
I love the 80s glamour
Rooney was my trainer when I was a kid
Really, tell me more sir
@@kid--presentable what would you like to know. I'm from catskil trained at the gym started when I was 14 rooney ran the gym with a lady cus D'Amato was real sick when I started never met him. He passed away shortly after I started training wish I would have met him
did you become a boxer? what do you do for living nowadays?
if you watch the press conference after the Spinks fight you'll see King trying to move in on Rooney and Cayton
Holmes and a couple of other boxers warned Tyson to avoid Don King. Too bad he didn't listen.
Cus put Cayton there for a reason, he had known him for years and trusted him.
He is right if he had of stayed with cayton he would of made 300 million more.cayton was already independently rich and always got the best deals for mike.they actually set up a retirement fund for Tyson.not sure if that is still around
How different mike Tyson's career would have went if he would have kept Kevin Rooney
The best trainer ever !!
The best trainer IRON Mike Tyson ever had!
Better than Teddy Atlas? He and Mike would have made a great duo for years to come, if that wasn't messed up before Tyson's career officially began.
If Mike stayed with Rooney he would have been 50-0 no doubt in my mind
legendary trainer without him mike wouldnt b were he was
No one can train Tyson but Rooney.
i feel that cus and rooney felt so confident with the superiority of tyson that it must have resembled like the manhattan project in ww2. they knew that what they had in theyere hands was so powerfull and overwhelming that it could change the whole game totaly. It must have been a special feeling and a rare event that you have the answer in a game where everybody is just guessing. Man only to wish for such power. Many think they have it but only few realy do.
In 2:00 he sounds like Mike Tyson when he says "Mike Tyson"
Kevin great!
Jay Bright was worthless. He didnt have an Enswell for the fight with Buster Douglas. So they put cold water in a rubber glove that looked like a condom. Tyson was a real tough boxer to corral in his younger days. I bet if Iron Mike got real, he would admit Cayton and Rooney had a higher regard for him as a human being than Don King.....
100% agree , Bright may have been around Cus , but he was not the trainer Rooney or Atlas was . Worthless to even have him .
Time can prove things, now everybody knows Kevin was right
Kevin was a hero and big part of Mike success, Tyson should make amends with him.
When Tyson departures from Kevin Rooney that was the end of No Tomorrow because Custom Auto would not want have had that done but at that point might Isis mind was filled with confusion and disappointment
I feel that if Rooney would train Tyson NOW ... for these League of Legends fights ... Mike would be beautiful in the ring again. He is great in the ring vs Roy Jones. But with Rooney training him ... Beautiful.
Hey folks ! Good book to read is Fire and Fear by Jose Torres. Talks about the fraternity of Cus Damato acolytes. Cayton and Jimmy Jacobs were part of the inner group. Tyson was destined for greatness if he stayed with the original group!
Probably would have gone undefeated if he kept the original corner. They were constantly adding more moves to Mike's Arsenal. Ray Leonard said through the 80's that he's constantly improving
I didn't expect his voice to sound like that.
Tyson's career dived after King got rid of Rooney.
I wonder if michael Tyson got his voice from Kevin rooney!
I didnt know Tony Soprano trained Mike Tyson
Kevin was “spot on” shame Mike didn’t listen!!! because Mike started slacking and his skills starting fading!! and of course came James Douglas.
No idea he made 2mil from a fight that lasted a minute
He looks like mark schultz and sounds like mike tyson
How did the thing between Tyson and Rooney go? Was it that Don King got in between?
Kevin Rooney is like the last of a few OLD SCHOOl respectful ,stand up guys that give Mad Respect to CUS and if you notice he doesn't say " MY " training he says keeping and training what "CUS" taught!
That says it all
Mike Tyson made peace with everyone, even apologized to Teddy Atlas, why the fuck hasn't he talked to Kevin Rooney yet? There will come a time when it's too late.
Besides, Rooney was right when saying people throw Cus' name around and don't know what it really means to "do it for Cus".
Tyson wanted to run wild....he didn't want anyone telling him what to do
Birth town. Go Rooney!
He fired all the guys that brought him to greatness everyone custom Auto had aroundhim is gone he put a cap on his ability when he fired Roony
Mike said i didnt want kevin to go i like kevin & his style of fighting but king an givens & mother did a good job & in this fight mike was sliping inside & not throwing the punch so it was fast to see mike go down hill shame
Kevin Rooney is right! End of story
Love Kevin Rooney. Wish they would have Tyson do a full breakdown of all his trainers in his career; strengths and weaknesses. I’d love to have mike compare guys like Teddy and Kevin and then later managers like Roach and Snowell, and who’s the guy with him when he fought Ruddock?? He was pretty well know I just forget his name
Don King?
lol😂
Richie Giachetti
@@Red-rp4ks yeah Giachetti was with mike for some of the biggest fights of his career. Would love to hear a serious
breakdown from Mike comparing his trainers through the years but I don't think we will get one. The closest we might get is someone like Teddy Atlas giving some analysis on Mikes different trainers through the years. Like Roach for example, sounds like a retard in interviews, but is a genius trainer?"
@@Infinite0396 Kevin Rooney, Aaron Snowell, Jay bright, Richie Giachetti, Stacey Mckinley, Tommy Brooks, Freddie Roach, Jeff Fenech were the coaches of Mike Tyson in his whole Professional career. But for me Kevin Rooney was the best for Mike. ✌️✌️
Biggest mistake mike ever made....
not sure. probably marrying robin was worse. and hiring king. reason I say this is tyson was looking decent under trainer giachetti after Douglas loss.
Kevin attributes it all to Cus. You dont hear humility like that anymore.
These peoples influenced mike so much. Tyson's hand movements when he speaks are exactly the same as rooney.. the worst thing they both did was splitting ways, don king has a special place reserved in hell
Mike should have stayed with Kevin
The thing people ignore is that Tyson was just a kid.
Who is there that can say they were still hanging with the same group from when they were 14 ?
EVERYONE gets bored and goes in different directions growing up. Just saying
bigdaddy4069
Good point. And also worth mentioning is the huge fame/spotlight put on Tyson at a very tender age. Hard for a lot of people to deal with, especially an angry kid from the streets who had a crap upbringing like Tyson.
Mike Tyson should have never got rid of Kenneth and Rooney he needed Kevin Rooney for that James buster Douglas fight and especially for holyfield he could have been much more Superior than holyfield if you would have stayed with Kevin Rooney Tyson could at least bought Kevin Rooney with him and let him tour with him but half the time Tyson wanted to do what he wanted to do I'll be thinking a lot about that with Tyson could have been something what I could have been
Michael Norton
Who's "Kenneth?"
@@cquilty1 I meant Teddy Atlas
@@michaelnorton920
Aaaaaah...got it.
Its cus decision to replace teddy with kevin rooney
Tyson was on top in boxing but at the bottom in the real world. Deception and manipulation is what the real ruthless ppl have! Rooney was Great for tyson ....
Say Mike Honor"s The 3yrs Left In The Contract...He Was 38 - 0 !!!! Pretty Sure Mike Would Of Broke Marciano"s Record, Been Undefeated & Would Have Been Up To Him If Continued On !!!! His Fight"s $$$$ Wise Would Have Been Astronomical & Would Have Beaten Holyfield, Lennox, Bowe, Would Of Had All His Money !!!! , No Rape Charge, A Serious Shame All Around That Jacob"s At Such Young Age Had To Pass !!!!....
I have a contract. I have a contract...
Kevin rooney looks similar like UFC DANA white.
Lol
Tyson never had the discipline to handle to Women, Money & the likes of Don King. He was just kid, with the majority of society wanting to see his demise
He talks like Mike lol
Tyson definitely behaved like a traitor to the D'Amato team. He couldn't confront people who had right principles starting with Teddy Atlas, and then Rooney and Claiton. He chosed ex-criminal Don King.
@ Tyson could reconcile with Rooney and Bill before he died. He even asked Teddy Atlas for forgiveness occasionally when he met him on a boxing event. Tyson was young and etc but he did what he did to Rooney, Bill and other guys who were his family. And Tyson understands that that's why he couldn't confront meet to Rooney, Bill. You may lesson to Steve Lott's opinion in his interviews who was in D'Amato team.
Dumbest decision Tyson made (on top of screwing things up with Teddy Atlas). I freaking hate Don King so much. One of the most terrible human-beings to ever walk.
Was only a matter of time, Tyson started moaning to his corner by round 4 in this fight
I can only imagine what Tyson would say to 90% of these comments, which seem to suggest that Kevin Rooney contributed to some of Mike's success. Kevin could've been replaced by anyone who goes on early morning runs. And they all fought the peep a boo style and Mike knew it better than them all and didn't need Rooney teaching him, Tyson actually connected better with Teddy Atlas than Kevin Rooney. Kevin was in the right place at the right time and became part of team Tyson because his own career sucked. Now Rooney carries the same air of entitlement that has our whole country going up in flames, Mike wasn't his boy and Tyson''s career would've been the same with or without him.
WRONG! His skills started to erode in the first Bruno fight. Compared to when they were starting to peak in the Tubbs fight. The Spinks fight should of never happened! There was a sincere bond within the original team. Tyson Read The Fire and the Fear by Jose Torres. The country is in flames because criminals who don't give a fuck about George Floyd ,you , me , or anyone else hijacked the protest.
So your trying to say tyson splitting with rooney and signing for king had no effect on his career. Catch yourself on you idiot. Everyone knows tyson went downhill big time as soon as he split with rooney. Tyson broke his contract with rooney , so he should have a sense of entitlement for the work he put in.
@@derryboyo must be white boy
@@perkinsvalentine is that your comeback?
@@perkinsvalentine Yeah his career worked out real good when he turned to "black boys"... You must be black xD
Mike Tyson ou l'homme qui avait détruit sa carrière.
Maybe Kevin shouldn't have filled lawsuit
Don stole his fighter, Mike left either way
Well Rooney won and was awarded $4.4 million
Tyson looked shit since he left Rooney
This was a very big mistake from Mike.
They were all like a family till the money came...
damn shame tyson let rooney go. even bigger shame associating with the wrong ppl ie givens & king. but tbh he had achieved everything in boxing by this stage. and at only the age of 22 ie become the champ, then undisputed, then beat the longstanding champ of the 80s Holmes, then beating the lineal champ spinks. nothing else to achieve & no one left to beat.
Don king manipulated Tyson's young mind at that time and destroyed his career
Tyson cut his own throat sacking Rooney … enter the road to destruction Tokyo Feb 11 90
Rooney was worth more money if he could keep mike winning
It's true that Tyson Is a great boxer...but he said Clearly that he was a bad person...all of us surfers abusement...in the third Worlds that Is not a good reason to participante in bad behaviour...he was in the Fisrt World at that point, so what was the problem???
Great boxer...Bad person???
Rooney was part of team D'mato, who never flourished as an independent trainer. He lost his job because he had no discipline with his mouth, he's an asshole. Tyson lost the belt cause he lost his hunger and determination, like most every champion eventually deals with. It doesn't make them failures, just not as rich as before. Rooney was along for the ride and has since shown his lack of relevance.
this arrangement to get rid of Rooney was the beginning of the downfall of Mike Tyson!!! Shame.