Connecting Luther and Protestantism with Ancient Heresies
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- Connecting Protestantism with Ancient Heresies. This is a short clip of a much longer talk showing the theology of Luther, Calvin, and other Protestants come from ancient heresies.
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Since converting from Calvinism to Catholicism, I’ve found the protestant/gnostic connection especially in American evangelicalism fascinating. Take the sinners prayer: it’s secret knowledge that supposedly saves you, it’s not in the Bible, but people think it’s necessary to be “saved”, when the Bible says repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins.
Fantastic! So Protestant converts have been checking in. Thank you for your testimony. God bless you.
@wildwest89, I have wondered if Gnosticism began with the Greek Orthodox Churches, in the 4th Century?
@@Cube_Ernator1077 No. Gnosticism was active in the second century and is hinted at in the New Testament.
@@stueve Thank you.
@@Cube_Ernator1077 also, the Greek Orthodox Churches didn't exist until the eleventh century. They broke away from the Catholic church in the 11th century.
Just another brilliant video Bryan and Gary. Thank you from an ex Protestant who is now a Catholic as of 2019.
Praise God, and welcome home!🙌🙏
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Many protestants are not Christians as they reject the gospel of Christ and follow the teachings of men . Christening is not the gospel .You are still nota Christian as you are not following the Apostles teaching but another false church.
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxycan you translate that?
@@uncle_Samssubjects 🤦
The sad thing is most Christians who are Protestant loves a God that serves them and not a God they are supposed to serve. That’s why Hillsong is growing. That’s why Pentecostal is growing. People don’t want to connect to faith - they want to churches that look like them, sound like them, and feel like them. I’ve been there. I completely understand. Latin America is bleeding Catholics at an alarming rate. People want to be motivated and inspired like a motivational video. People want to hear music that worships their desires and not worshipping Christ. That’s why Christian rock bands are a billon dollar business. I really want Catholics like our beloved Bryan here to be more popular! We need more people like Bryan speaking the faith. Even in England 🏴 it’s a TRAVESTY. Thank you Bryan I am able to speak to my faith much more and stop myself from being Evangelized by the Church of England. They count on us not knowing our faith. It’s a shame that England has lost its Catholicism when Catholics was the dominant church for centuries. Besides hillsong/soul church dominating England 🏴 and Church of England 🏴 being the official church of the royal family; Catholics are becoming endangered here and leaving faith. Now Latin America is following suit?! How can the Pope not pay attention to this and forgot the Latin Mass suppression.
Well said! Bryan would gladly come speak in England. :) He spoke in Northern Ireland once.
But yes, it's sad that many Protestants do travel around until they find a church that goes according to their standards and what they feel is true. Not how it's supposed to be.
The Catholic church grew by 15 million members in 2021.
I was in London, England yesterday.
Most of the closed church buildings and there were A LOT, were of protestant denominations.
If people want to leave the church, fine.. Its their soul they are losing. The church of England want to place more bishops on the House of Lords. ..FOR THE SALARY! because there is now such pressure on lack of funds.
Btw, the Bishop has ultimate say on whether the Latin mass can be celebrated in his diocese.
Most Christians who study would not accept the leadership of the Pentecostal movement as Christian but fake. There may be some followers who are 'educationally challenged' but sincere.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Many are leaving the Anglican church because of its stand on same sex marriage .Some Anglo Catholics are joining the R.C'.s. others the free church of England etc. The same thing happened in the church of Scotland .
Great video Bryan you did your research blessings from 🇨🇦
I have been working on a brochure hope to be finished with it soon comparing how Calvinism and Islam are essentially identical in doctrine, predestination, justification total depravity limited attoinment Sola scriptoria.. God is the author of sin etc ... This video is . absolutely correct..
Jennifer have you considered the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification (JDDJ) that is a document created and agreed to by the Catholic Church's, perhaps you should and see and check on your failed studies 😬
Interesting info.
@@arkofthecovenant6235 the video is a complete failure on this basis alone as Catholicism has already embraced ecumenism.
This of course only upsets the trads 😆
@@andrewdrew677 Um, there is nothing wrong with ecumenism. Proper ecumenism is a teaching of the Catholic church, and the goal is evangelization to bring people back to the Catholic Church. It's finding common ground where you can, and creating discussion among differences, but the goal is still to bring the world back to the true church that Jesus started.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial No the true Catholic church that Jesus founded was the Eastern Orthodox Church. Roman Catholics are innovators. Papal primacy and infallability are wrong. That Greek priest was right. The pope is a heretic
As a former Reformed Calvinist of fifteen adult years of my life, I am happily a confirmed Roman Catholic today since 2015. In my youth I earned a bachelor's degree in biblical studies from a very anti-Catholic Protestant institution. My journey into Reformed Christianity from my upbringing in an evangelical Pentecostal/Baptist type of faith was a learning experience on many levels. I was privileged to know many fine Christians on my pilgrimage into the truth. The "Bible Alone" crowd have always been a disgruntled sect of disconnected Protestants without the rock of the Church which our Lord provided here on earth: Matthew 16: 18-19. Why? Because the Bible itself is an incomplete (though divinely inspired) resource which originated from the Catholic Church. In fact, the Bible, as we know it today, is the Book of the Catholic Church. Oddly, neither Luther or Calvin disputed this fact. They simply made themselves the official interpreters respectively of Sacred Scripture rather than submit to the infallible guidance of the Catholic Church. In doing so, they began calling themselves "reformers." However, John Calvin actually 'deformed' his Catholicism into something like it without it being Catholic anymore. Calvin himself was never an ordained cleric of any type, unlike the excommunicated Luther. But Calvin was a far more hateful and schismatic opponent of the legitimate Catholic Church. With his pen he disseminated rational poison against the Church zealously, even though he had been raised a Roman Catholic. After his death, Calvin's supporters fractured into competing groups based on national origin and their ethnic identity. Before being confirmed in the Catholic Church, I had nearly lost all faith in the legitimacy of Christian ecclesiastical claims. Why would God establish a religion like Christianity which was so divided, often hateful toward others they disagreed with, frequently plagued by racism, and always quarrelsome? The answer is that God never established any such religion. Protestants have created their own messes.... and they have maintained such schism today! Jesus did not leave us a Book. He left us the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3: 15)- His Bride the Church. Matthew 28: 19-20. And Jesus did not leave us alone either. Schismatics have left Jesus and His Church to pursue their own brand of religion instead. The Catholic Church is the one true Church established by Jesus here on earth. It really is that simple!
Thank you so much for sharing! Welcome home, and I'm so glad you found your way back to the church! Praise be to God!
I thought i saw a schismatic hiding behind a tree .
Peter . There are many with degrees these days who know little of Biblical Christianity. . You are just repeating all the errors you have been taught by the Roman church, don't you realise you all say exactly the same thing almost word for word, just like the cults. . You have not looked at real history . I am not surprised to find you have a Pentecostal type background ,as they are bordering on heresy with their false prophecies .Genuine churches do not tolerate racism. Many protestant churches are no more Christian than the Roman catholic.
@@wendymitchell8245 Its called bewitched. The CC says the bible is divinely inspired but incomplete. God either forgot some important stuff or he is asleep at the wheel. The CC boasts that it made the bible, and now they say its incomplete. The CC has nothing but contempt for the bible. i dont blame them, really. The bible takes dead square aim at their idolatry and their church. Dressed in purple and scarlet.
@@wendymitchell8245 The issue is not about having a degree, as you say. The real issue is about having the courage to follow the facts where ever they lead. Biblical Christianity is Catholicism. That is real history. For more information, I recommend “Upon This Rock” by Steve Ray. My ancestors came from Europe, but my wife and her family came from the Philippines. Christ calls all races, ethnicities, and cultures into communion in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. Sadly, most Evangelical Protestant churches today remain racially segregated by choice. In my home parish we have English (ingles) and Spanish (espanol) Masses every week. En el nombre Padre, del Hiyo y del Espiritu Santo. Amen.
Ooh… I hope it’s alright… I shared this to an anti-Catholic page, and they’re bigly mad! 😯🤔😁
It's fine. Feel free to share any of our videos. :-)
Maybe because they do not like lies.
Thank you for your channel brother 👍
I was originally Church of England [aka Anglican or Episcopalian]. I had been partially observant from age 11. due to going to a C of E school, got confirmed at 12 but my level of observance varied at first. I became more interested and more strictly observant at 16. I believed at the time that the Anglican Church was part of the catholic church, a common belief, but a little study of church history proves this wrong. After a lot of soul searching I realised that The [Roman] Catholic is the true Church and in the autumn of 1977I approached the local Catholic Church and was received the following spring [age 19].
The error that the Anglican Church is 'catholic' in nature is due to a movement within it in Oxford in the 19th century. Followers of the Oxford Movement came to be known as 'High Church Anglicans' or even 'Anglo Catholics'. They claimed that the Anglican Church had retained Apostolic Succession and Sacraments. This is easily disproved, the Anglicans broke the succession in the later 16th century under Queen Elizabeth 1. This was explained and defined by Pope Leo X111 in 1896. The Oxford Movement took place at about the same time that the Catholic Church, after suffering centuries of discrimination and persecution in England was finally allowed to worship here openly and many anti Catholic laws had been repealed. The Catholic Church re-established the hierarchy in England in 1850 although Scotland followed much later. The Oxford movement was an attempt to keep some who were attracted to Catholic-type worship in the C of E. It cannot be denied that some found it a way into the true Church, one high profile example is John Henry Newman. I had the privilege of attending Newman's beatification by Pope Benedict XV1 near Birmingham in 2010.
Well said. Thank you for sharing! Good points. We recently interviewed a top Anglican Bishop who had converted to the Catholic Church.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I guess you mean Michael Nazir Ali who was received into the Catholic Church in the autumn of 2021. I think he may have also been ordained a Catholic priest, as had a former Anglican Bishop of London [whose name I have forgotten] who converted some years earlier.
The church grieves for the stolen heritage of Catholic England.
Our Lady of Willesden, pray for us.
My mother and grandmother were both converts from the spiritually dead Anglican church . It tries to be all things to all men ,from Anglo-Catholic to Pentecostal ,most are nominal ,traditionalists . There are a few believers who mistakenly think they will convert the unbelieving traditionalists .The Roman church of course is where their false gospel of baptismal regeneration came from , this is why they find it easy to convert back to more error.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Yes, when will you Anglo-Saxons start reclaiming you Roman heritage, before the coming of the antichrist Martin Lucifer
Excellent video guys
Thank you for sharing this video. I am going to watch now.
Very interesting discussion on nominalism and Luthers influences, have you Marci one of zell’s minions not considered that the Joint Declaration between Lutherism on the Doctrine of Justification by the Church of Rome has been agreed, Luthers little seed becoming a Roman fig tree called(JDDJ) which makes the entire video on here meaningless, and silly indeed..😬grow a brain dude before it’s too late.
@@andrewdrew677you are mad at the truth, have some integrity, and try to pay attention.. It's a simple truth, the servant can never exercise judgement over their master, nor can the Church make, that which is wrong, right..
Sensei🥋Gary doesn’t play….Full contact 🥊Catholicism! 🙏🏼💪🏼
Fantastic video
Like many others, I am a Protestant who converted to Catholicism. The reason for this, is not at least theological. I do not believe in the rather limited theology that Martin Luther created, compared to the full theology of our Catholic Church. To strip off the sacrament of confession for instance, I think is a horrible mistake, because it more or less says goodbye to the value of good actions and the rejection of bad actions. Furthermore, it seems that Luther mainly focused on some aspects of the Christian life, like the importance of Christians reading the bible and Christians having the faith, but Luther seemingly missed the big picture regarding the priceless value of the church. If it is true that we Christians are okay just with focusing on bible alone and faith alone - sola scriptura and sola fidelity - what the heck should we do if we interpret the bible wrong and are losing our faith, in the same time as our church do not seem to have a real, substantial, supporting role in our lives? For some reasons, these highly important matters did not seem to have any central role in the theological thinking of Martin Luther. Because of this, I do not believe in the protestantic, Christan, approach. I just don't.
Very well said!
@@Isaacskilling Thank you very much, sir! God bless you!
@@tomprice3487 I'm not sure how anyone can be protestant. Catholics can trace their line and same doctrine back right to the apostles. Why would your denomination be the correct one all of a sudden, after thousands of years of the Catholic church teaching the same doctrines?
@@tomprice3487 I take it you are a messianic Jew. We are not under their law 1 Corinthians 9:20. Jesus came to fulfill the law. Not to come down and check in on us and die a death. It is evident and clear in both scripture and the writings of the early church before even 100AD
@@tomprice3487 You appear to use a lot of old testament verses. We are in the time of the new covenant as Jesus said at the last supper. Do you not believe we should have one church with one head, that being Christ? Jesus is the new Adam. He made all things new.
I used to be a Protestant and was a marcionite, donatist, montanist, and Nestorian without realizing it
Thank you catholic truth
Fascinating interview! Now I can begin to understand the philosophical underpinnings of Protestantism. How embarrassing for Protestants that their thoughts are influenced by Islam, which despised Christianity even though it borrowed heavily from it, and Judaism. This talk seems truncated - no intro of the speaker or his subject. Do you have a whole interview with him somewhere?
At min 19:40 Gary says “you end up with a kind of gnostic world view”. I submit this does not “end up” but actually shows the trajectory to further extremes to this degree. Enter Jehovah’s Witness who take this ideology and to the degree not only to the non-Christian extreme but they will change the wording of the bible to help justify their position.
S. R . They follow Arius ,which shows what happens if you follow teachers other than the Apostles, who were chosen by Jesus.
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I have a request. Please, write the name of the person you do your programme with and the title of their book underneath the video , together with the title.
Okay, I am a Protestant evangelical and have been my whole life. However, I started studying Thomas Aquinas about 18 years ago. In studying him I also looked at Duns Scotus and William of Ockham. I came to the same conclusion as expressed here; namely, that Ockham's nominalism broke with antiquity and led to Luther and Protestantism (and ultimately, secularism). I cannot say I disagree with anything stated in the Vlog. I especially see that in the Restoration Movement there was a move to extreme subjectivism that plagues Evangelicalism today.
Wow! It's great that you came to the same conclusion, and separately on your own. Well said. God bless. Thanks for watching.
There are so many Protestant churches against the subjectivism that you mentioned . Very solid do finally sound churches
You’re on your way. Keep studying history. May I suggest Hillaire Belloc “How the Protestant Reformation Happened?”
YOU NEED TO FIRST STUDY THE GOSPEL OF THE N.T. . and become a Christian ,not join a church ,which will not lead you to conversion to Jesus Christ.
@@wendymitchell8245 If the New Testament directly states that the church IS the body of Christ (of which he is the head) and, yet, you deny Christ's holy body and refuse to affiliate with it, then one might ask, "What gospel are you believing" is it the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ or your own made-up gospel?
God DO NOT want Heresy but because of His Permissive Will, He ALLOWED it.
Exactly.
Brother Brian I am Catholic from India u didn't gave me the answer is want to know how can Church keep female pope known as Joan?pls do answer
The Catholic Church never had a female pope. That is a Protestant claim that is not true. Look at a list of popes in the encyclopedia. You will not see Pope Joan.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial o i see but when I asked the Google he gave me Joan's name
@@astutik8909 Catholicism never killed Christians smart guy. Papal Romans killed Catholics. You are clearly only regurgitating the same lies someone else fed you. 🙄
@@astutik8909 what are you to say that?🙄
@@astutik8909 apology for what?
Careful now.
This is very good. What is the name of the guest’s book? Don’t quite understand the ins and outs of nominalism.
Thank you. It's: Revolt Against Reality by Gary Michuta.
What’s this man’s book called?
Revolt Against Reality, by Gary Michuta
Hey there Brian! Can you give some explanation on the reserved sins in the Catholic Church?
Not sure what you mean by that.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I've heard that there are some sins that only the Holy See can give absolution to, like physically attacking the Pope.
@@angelo1064 We are not sure about that and have never heard that. Sorry.
@@angelo1064 Reserved sins are sins that are also considered canonical "crimes". Here's a link to Catholic answers that touches on the basics.
www.catholic.com/qa/reserved-sins
Hope this helps,
God Bless
@@Matt-1926 Thank you!
You are doing a great job brother. And I like the quote on your T shirt: ONLY ONE TRUTH, CATHOLIC TRUTH ❤️. GOD bless you all more 🙏🏻
SCRIPTURE ALONE ANOTHER CHURCH FATHER this will touch any Catholics HEART .
Hippolytus (d. 235)
There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source. For just as a man if he wishes to be skilled in the wisdom of this world will find himself unable to get at it in any other way than by mastering the dogmas of philosophers, so all of us who wish to practice piety will be unable to learn its practice from any quarter than the oracles of God. Whatever things then the Holy Scriptures declare, at these let us look; and whatsoever things they teach these let us learn. (Against Heresies, 9)
Great quote!
Again, you were trying to make a Catholic a Protestant LOL. A Catholic who believed in the true presence of the Eucharist, and baptismal regeneration, and in other Catholic distinctives like _tradition._ That's right, he believed in the Bible and tradition. As you will see below.
The reality is this wonderful Catholic is teaching the importance of scripture, but not scriptural alone. He is talking to heretics saying we get the knowledge from scripture and no other source (i.e. their own heretical so called prophets or even their own imaginations.) We know truth comes from different sources. Paul received quite a large amount of revelation from God directly. So did Peter. So did the prophets.
Like the early church fathers, Hippolytus argues by the material sufficiency of scripture but not the formal sufficiency of scripture. As do Catholics. The Catholic Church Jesus scripture to refute Heretics, just as he did. But neither believed that it was the sole ruler of Faith or the final Authority on all matters.
Hippolytus: "We have arrived at the essence of the tradition which is proper for the churches. This is so that those who are well-informed may keep the tradition which has lasted until now according to the explanation we give of it, and so that others by taking note of it may be strengthened, with the Holy Spirit, conferring perfect rice on those who have a correct faith, and so that they will know that those were at the head of the church must teach and guard all of these things.... or if all who hear the Apostolic tradition follow and keep it, no heretic will be able to induce ever, nor will any person at all. It is in this manner that many heresies have grown, for those who are leaders adductors to inform of cells of the opinion of the Apostles, but they did what they wanted according to their own pleasure, and not what was appropriate." From: _The Apostolic Tradition_
*So we see that Hippolytus believes in Tradition and in the authority of the church, and that God guides the church* if you read the rest of the quote in full. Hence Hippolytus does NOT believe in scripture alone. It's shameful for Protestants to keep taking these people out of context and using them in an intellectually dishonest way.
Great video. Makes me even more glad I am a Catholic
You have nothing to be glad about ,as you follow the false teaching of men and not he word of God. Therefore lost.
Fundamentalists seem to bare a very puritanical brand of Gnosticism, Manichaeism in particular
You would be shocked at how many of them don’t know that our bodies will be resurrected. They actually don’t know that it’s a Christian doctrine that all Christians have always believed.
@@heartofjesusdjTo whom are you referring
@@nzbrotrev9028 Protestants
I think this same critique could be leveled at the foundations of Roman Catholicism.
No such thing as Roman Catholicism though. Only Catholicism. One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial You’re right. It was one Church until one of the 5 (Rome, Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, Constantinople) decided to innovate with the papacy and split the Church. The innovations have continued throughout the ages. The Orthodox Church is the true Church.
I do like traditional Roman Catholic services and it is tragic the split between the East and West occurred. Would love for the two groups to reunite but don’t see it ever happening, one can only pray. There are numerous issues between the two groups that would be difficult to reconcile. I like your show, am going to subscribe.
Jesus innovated the papacy. He was the one who built the Church on the Rock of Peter and gave Peter alone the Keys of the Kingdom of heaven. And Peter was the head of this one Church which has different locations. My town has five Catholic churches, but they are not separate, but all part of the one same church, just as the early churches were all part of the one same church under the head of Peter who was the first pope. He had the Primacy and the authority, which is even acknowledged by the writings of the earliest christians, because he alone received the Keys of the Kingdom of heaven. Among many other reasons.
Sadly we agree with you. We would like reunification as well. And we respect our Orthodox brothers and love them. Fun fact, the Orthodox churches reunited with the Catholic Church at least twice in history before breaking away again at later dates. So it shows that they were the ones who actually broke away in the first place because they kept coming back. But we do pray for a once and for all reunification and for one body in Christ. Thanks for subscribing, and thanks for the respectful discussion. God bless you.
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Only The Holy Spirit can change ❤ hearts. We can live and teach as example. 🙏
Woman at the well! 100%
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The same line of thought, because the same Evil One was behind it.
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Lovely picture of the sun behind it, which you still find all over the R.C. churches. Since the days of Constantine's sun worship. In Roman times they even portrayed Jesus as the sun god in his chariot going across the sky .
The Catholic Church has nothing to do with sun worship, but it doesn't like sound like you've actually studied anything, so you probably wouldn't know better.
😅 Jesus the sun God? Can you show us even one, single, solitary, teaching in the Catholic Church which says this? No, you cant. But we will wait.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Because I have, I know better. Did you study Roman history? Have you been to the Vatican and St. Peters. I taught religious education with a Roman Catholic . She was the one who told me to study the terrible lives of the Popes., as they were more like the Mafia than Christians. The Mafia started as the Popes guard ,which I am sure you know.
All you have to do is search for early wall art of Jesus as the sun god.
@@wendymitchell8245 What you taught is clearly some sort of bubble gum conspiracy theory. To "Teach" you should be educated in the field you are supposedly teaching. Just like being a Doctor of Medicine, you are required to actually have a real PhD in medicine. Your friends can't certify you as a doctor. Same here, if you teach religious education, you should be qualified on the subject and not just make stuff up as you go and call that religious studies.
@@wendymitchell8245 There may be Catholics who do evil just like there are protestants do things that their church says are wrong. There are Catholics who are faithful to what the Church teaches and Catholics who choose to sin. As Jesus said, there are both wheat and tares in the Church. We don't judge anyone to be guilty by association. We don't judge the truth of the Church by the people who don't follow what the Church teaches. We don't judge Jesus as a traitor because of what Judas did. We don't say all teachers are bad because of the few bad teachers who have molested their students. This post isn't making excuses, it is explaining what the Church teaches. All Catholics who are faithful to Church teaching are growing in love.
I'm confused. William of Ockham, who pioneered Nominalism, was a Roman Catholic, no?
Yes. Many people break away from the pure teaching with fancies of their own or even good intentions. Arius what's a Catholic priest in the third Century who said that Jesus was created. Obviously that's not Orthodox. The Catholic Church condemned him. Nestorius was a Catholic in the 5th Century who created a heresy about Jesus also. He was also condemned. Many men and women have broken away from what the church teaches which always leads to error and usually other religions being made. Nominalism and William were condemned also.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial luther is a also a catholic monk.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thanks for the thoughtful response as always. I agree that Roman Catholicism isn't invalidated because Catholics in the past held heretical beliefs. This video seems to be suggesting that Protestants holding heretical beliefs does somehow invalidate Protestantism. What nuance am I missing?
@@stueve because the Catholics who taught false beliefs were considered Heretics, rightly so. But yet, instead of treating the Protestants who departed from the purity of the faith as Heretics, they are revered as religious leaders who started their own churches and their own religions. Can you see the difference? Christ never wanted Schism in his body, and yet they created Schism and celebrate it. They appeal to themselves as their own authority, as did former heretical Catholics who left the faith, are you at the Catholic church has been there for 2,000 years with the truth whether people accept it or not. Does that make sense?
That's right, a Catholic who allowed himself to be politically manipulated. ( It's Catholic btw, Roman Catholics live only in the Diocese of Rome).
Luther was a Catholic also.
2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. The use of the sign of the cross traces back to early Christianity, with the second century Apostolic Tradition directing that it be used during the minor exorcism of baptism, during ablutions before praying at fixed prayer times, and in times of temptation. A gesture of ancient Christian origin by which people bless themselves, others, or objects. St. Cyprian explained the ritual in the 3rd century by reference to Christ's redemptive death on the cross. When we do the sign of the cross we acknowledge the Divinity of Trinity of God by saying In the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Philippians 3:18 For, as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. The Sola fide and Sola scriptura doctrine are Half Truth.
Sola fide and sola scriptura are complete falsehoods due to the word sola.
@@ClergetMusic Why all the contempt for the bible?
@@bobdobbs943 No contempt, but authority given to Scripture in its proper place as one, not the sole, but one of the pillars of Christianity.
@@DakkogiRauru23 OK, so where are the other pillars of christianity?
@@bobdobbs943 The pillars of the church are Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium (teaching authority).
Are you sure it was Luther, and not Melancthon, who affirmed the doctrine of imputed justification?
Yes, Luther did. But in fact, they probably both did. Luther talks about it in his writings.
Protestantism (sunk in Sodom and Divorce) out of a rebellion, in Christian names underscored in Gnosticism (1 John 2:19) unto its many thousands of sects, where one does not agree with the other denotes the many parts that the body of Jezebel ended up torn by dogs, incidentally the source of the prophesied Apostasy theologically in the leavens of the Faith.
This is true from a retrospective point of view. From today's point of view, Protestantism is the halfway point between secularism and authentic Christianity. Lol a distinction without a difference other than the way you look at it I suppose.
@@astutik8909 they have everything backwards it seems.
The Catholic Church is not against evolution but does not take an official stance either way. Unlike most Protestants, Catholics are not against Science.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial ah again you don’t know what your talking about . Most Protestant’s aren’t against science . Are you drunk
@@tamaraanderson5717 The only reason the pope didnt burn Galileo to death is because they were childhood friends.
@@tamaraanderson5717 I’m not too sure about that it the majority globally, but in the US, Evangelicalism is right alongside biblical literalism, so yes.
Very interesting discussion on nominalism and Luthers influences, have you not considered that the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification by the Church of Rome, Luthers little seed becoming a Roman tree called(JDDJ) makes your entire video meaningless, and silly indeed..😬
I hope not to have upset the trads especially when considering Denzinger😬
@@andrewdrew677 Brother when you are SAVED you will NATURALLY do GOOD Works. So it is Faith WORKING THROUGH Love 💕.
@@Darth_Vader258 yes bro most definitely all of the Father by His Spirit working in you and through you, happy 2022👍
@@andrewdrew677 God BLESS you Brother. PLEASE PRAY for me for I am currently sick 😷 🤢.
@@Darth_Vader258 I want you to open your bible up to psalms 91 and pray this psalm over yourself and believe that the Father keeps His word and be healed bro, do it now 💪😁
What about the non-Catholic, non-Protestant Christians like the Donatists, Novationists, Paulicians, Cathars, Albigensens, Waldenses, Bogomils, and Arnoldists?
What about them? (I believe the term is heresies). They are even Christians. Several of those groups were Gnostic and believed in multiple gods
@@CatholicTruthOfficial The information on theses groups would be credible if they did not from their enemies. For example, why would I believe any information on the Jewish people from a Nazi? Did not the Catholic Church burn their books as well as the believers themselves? And the Protestants that left the Catholic Church, they did not abandon their hatred for those groups, correct? So did their writings survive or are we forced to look at them through biased eyes? Not all of them were Gnostics.
When Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, the Christians went north to Antioch while the Gnostics went to the great intellectual center of the world at that time being Alexandria, Egypt. The Gnostics, who believed that everything of the flesh was evil and that everything of the spirit was good, when translating the Bible, they ran into trouble with 1 Timothy 3:16 where it says that God was manifest in the flesh. How could God, being good, be manifest in the flesh which was evil? So instead of changing their beliefs, they changed the Bible to "he was manifest in the flesh.". That was the beginning of the false Bible. The true Bible were copied in Antioch.
I heard that Luther told his mother to stay in the Catholic church.
I've always thought protestantism was very similar to Islam.
what a strange conclusion...
NPC-gl8xp . You mean -protestants believe Jesus is god ,the creator of all things -
Muslims do not.
Protestants believe he is the only way to God .
Muslims do not.
Protestants believe he died for our sins .
Muslims do not .
Protestants believe he rose from the grave .
Muslims do not. etc.
HOW
FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE THROUGH SCRIPTURE ALONE😁
Saved sealed and sanctified.💪
Faith alone is condemned in the Bible. Jms. 2:24. Scripture alone is unbiblical. Protestants Have not proven it in five hundred years.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial The doctrine of faith alone is a living faith so James goes together with the doctrine perfectly.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial scripture alone goes together perfectly with Galatians 1 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
See also Corinthians 11
@@andrewdrew677 *_scripture alone goes together perfectly with Galatians 1 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed._*
This verse has nothing to do with scripture alone. The whole context of Galatians was Paul is dealing with fellow Christians (Judiaziers) in Galatia that were insisting that Gentile converts had to follow the Mosaic law, that they had to circumcise their children, eat kosher, etc... So Paul tells them no this is not part of the Gospel message and even if you claim to have heard this from a church leader this is contrary to the gospel of Christ.
Scripture alone is no where in Paul's mind here, he's speaking about oral tradition here, what him and the other apostles preached orally. How do we know this? Because this was the first book he wrote and he wrote this before a single gospel was penned.
Think about it. When Paul wrote this the only scripture available to the Galatians would have been the Old Testament, no other New testament book was written yet. If he was telling them to believe scripture alone then the Judiaziers would have been able to point to the Old Testament writings and tell him see right here we are right and you are wrong.
You can't pull verses out of context and make Paul say what you want him to say. You need to read them within the context they were written in order to fully understand what the Sacred Author is trying to convey.
God Bless
@@Matt-1926 Paul was preaching saving and living faith with new traditions and nullifying old, yes this we understand.
St Paul wasn’t teaching for example condign and congruent merit that hold absolution and remove punishment.
The gospel message of saving grace was being obscured through other means, salvation bearing additions so to speak.
Reformed theology rests its understanding regards scripture alone as a means of illustrating additional grace outside of apostolic teaching .
Let me just sum this up real quick- correlation=causation.
This is some serious Ancient Aliens style “scholarship.”
Christianity was reduced to propositions….so true. Protestantism treats human beings as if they are just a walking brain. Not a soul and a body.
The church fathers agreed with SCRIPTURE ALONE I have many examples here is just one please share and study
Gregory of Nyssa makes that point explicit in a letter to Eustathius. The Arians claimed that their tradition (or “custom”) did not allow for the Trinitarian position. Gregory responded with the following:
What then is our reply? We do not think that it is right to make their prevailing custom the law and rule of sound doctrine. For if custom is to avail for proof of soundness, we too, surely, may advance our prevailing custom; and if they reject this, we are surely not bound to follow theirs. Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words. (Dogmatic Treatises, Book 12. On the Trinity, To Eustathius.)
None of the Church fathers believed in Scripture alone or faith alone. They were all Catholic, believed in the authority of the Church, primacy of Peter, Baptismal regeneration, the true presence of the Eucharist and more. You have to love when Protestants try to make the earliest Christians Protestant.
The earliest Christians believed in the MATERIAL sufficiency of Scripture but not the FORMAL sufficiency of Scripture. They also believed in Tradition and the role of the church. We have no doubt the appeal to the Scriptures, just as the Catholic Church does, but not the Scriptures alone.
Gregory (who you quote) was a Catholic bishop by the way. So you are being intellectually dishonest. He believed in the Eucharist, being born again through baptism, and other things which most Protestants would never except.
_Gregory on Baptism:_ "In the birth by water and the Spirit, Jesus himself led the way in this birth, drawing down upon the water, by his own baptism, the Holy Spirit; so that in all things he became the firstborn of those who are spiritually born again, and gave the name of brethren to those who partook in a birth like to his own by water and the Spirit” (Against Eunomius 2:8 [A.D. 382]).
_On the Eucharist:_ He offered Himself for us, Victim and Sacrifice, and Priest as well, and 'Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.' When did He do this? When He made His own Body food and His own Blood drink for His disciples; for this much is clear enough to anyone, that a sheep cannot be eaten by a man unless its being eaten be preceded by its being slaughtered. This giving of His own Body to His disciples for eating clearly indicates that the sacrifice of the Lamb has now been completed." -Orations and Sermons, Jaeger: Vol 9, p. 287 [ca. 383 A.D.])
@@CatholicTruthOfficial How about Irenaeus of Lyons (d. 202) on SCRIPTURE ALONE INSPIRED
We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. (Against Heresies, 3.1.1)
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Who said I don’t believe in the body and blood ?
More great quotes! Thanks!
*_What then is our reply? We do not think that it is right to make their prevailing custom the law and rule of sound doctrine. For if custom is to avail for proof of soundness, we too, surely, may advance our prevailing custom; and if they reject this, we are surely not bound to follow theirs. Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words. (Dogmatic Treatises, Book 12. On the Trinity, To Eustathius.)_*
You can't just pull one sentence out of an entire document and go see. You need to read in context. First of all this Treatises has nothing to do with SCRIPTURE ALONE. It has to deal with the Trinity, which is not fully spelled out in scripture, and how we are to understand it. Read carefully the verses you point to don't even say what you think they say,
"Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and *_the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree_* with the Divine words."
All he is saying here is the dogma can't contradict scripture. Where as you think he said.... "the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found in "SCRIPTURE ALONE".
Nothing in this treatises preaches SCRIPTURE ALONE, unless you read it into his writings.
*_We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. (Against Heresies, 3.1.1)_*
This has nothing to do with SCRIPTURE ALONE. Against Heresies was written against the Gnostics who believed they had secret knowledge of salvation. This particular response is in regards to the claim the Apostles messed up because they started preaching and writing before they were endowed with the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Just because he says... "the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith." Doesn't mean he said SCRIPTURE ALONE is the totality of our faith,
You are once again pulling one sentence out of context and reading into it what you want it to say.
We need to read the entire book in context. For instance in Chapter 3 he speaks about the succession of Bishops.
"1. It is within the power of all, therefore, in every Church, who may wish to see the truth, to contemplate clearly the tradition of the apostles manifested throughout the whole world; and we are in a position to reckon up those who were by the apostles instituted bishops in the Churches, and [to demonstrate] the succession of these men to our own times; those who neither taught nor knew of anything like what these [heretics] rave about. For if the apostles had known hidden mysteries, which they were in the habit of imparting to the perfect apart and privily from the rest, they would have delivered them especially to those to whom they were also committing the Churches themselves. For they were desirous that these men should be very perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they were leaving behind as their successors, delivering up their own place of government to these men; which men, if they discharged their functions honestly, would be a great boon [to the Church], but if they should fall away, the direst calamity."
Right here he states if we want to know the truth follow the successors of the Apostles, the Bishops. Nothing in here about SCRIPTURE ALONE. In fact right here he goes on to tell us that not everything was written down when he says if there are any hidden mysteries they would have been given to the successors. Notice he doesn't say there aren't any hidden mysteries because everything was written down. Basically, he is letting us know that there is sacred tradition that wasn't written down and the only way to know and understand said traditions is to follow the Bishops.
Hope this helps,
God Bless
I am a Lutheran and could not more proud of my tradition for it's destruction and disenchantment, it's cleaving and severing of Catholicism from primitive Christianity. You guys are correct, the rallying cry of justification by faith alone birthed the modern individual, the interior consciousness, separation of church and state and democracy. Luther followed Turchillian, believing that Jerusalem should have nothing to do with Athens. Sola Fide!
faith does not mean belief, it means faithfulness. read the bible.
So you are happy that your man-made religion by a guy who is only so-so mentally they're divided the body of Christ and created Schism which the Bible strongly condemns? We just want to make sure that we have this correct. And you are okay with the invention of false doctrines like faith alone which is specifically condemned in the Bible in James 2:24.
Luther followed William of ockham and his faults heresy of nominalism. That's why I Luther accepted so many heretical views, and was even willing to throw books out of the Bible, even the New Testament. The person you follow didn't even think Revelation or Hebrews was inspired scripture. That should say it all.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial the dude was a lot further along mentally than you hahah
Uh oh I hope Trent Horn isn't watching this
I would like to know more on reformation in the Church. Can you please share this to me.
I was watching a video by a Seventh Day Adventist Apologist. He starts with the Waldensians and talks about how they had the true Gospel and that they had to sacrifice their comfort to "preach the gospel" as if everybody could read back in the 1100s. He then links the "Protestants" to the Cathars or Albigensians. I don't know if he actually knows what the Cathars taught, but it was CLEARLY heretical and gnostic. That totally shows how desperate to go before the 16th century they'll accept anything.
John MacArthur and all uninformed anti-catholics do the same thing. We talked about this in a related video on John macarthur. Clearly, they don't even know who the Waldensians were or what they taught.
Fascinating deconstruction of the Protestant project.
By protestant project you mean valuing bible truths over superstitions?
@@geordiewishart1683 protestant heresy.
And besides, what, are you to write that,?
As a former Freemason who left Freemasonry. I never in my opinion left the Roman Catholic Faith. But I have confessed to my Parish Priest of being at one time a Freemason. Mostly a card carrier. But still a mortal sin. I confessed receiving the Euvhariat whole being a Freemason. I was truly lost while I was a Freemason. I thank the Lord for bringing me out of darkness and Into the Light. A Catholic cannot be a Freemasons. Best thing I can tell any catholics who are freemasons. Get your demit and never look back. There are many organizations within the Catholic faith in which you can indeed help your fellow man. 1. Knights of Columbus founded by soon to Saint McGivney. 2. The Catholic Worker House founded by Dorothy Day. 3. Opus Dei.
In addition Protestants are lost. 10s of thousands of different denominations. Protestants led to the legalization of abortion as well as the complete moral decay you see in the west. Some Protestants believe you can't lose your salvation. You can lose it. But you can also gain it back. Once saved always saved has to be a belief that Satan really appreciates. It's nothing more then a license to sin and be evil. One of my acquaintances goes to a united methodist church. No church during covid and the idiot who runs this particular gathering place went on vacation during Christmas lol. I want nothing to do with the heretics Martin Luther, Calvin and Weseley. Those three are probably in the deepest and darkest portion of hell. Along with their idiot followers. Protestants do not worship Christ. They worship Martin Luther and Calvin. Also most Protestants have no faith.
I will pray for your conversion Protestant heretics. I won't hold my breath however.
Thank you so much for sharing your testimony! Praise be to God! And God bless you.
You are talking rubbish
@@CatholicTruthOfficial thank you. God Bless you as well. I appreciate your kind words.
@@JuanRodriguez-js6uh How you can judge and condemn people to hell, are you told not to judge others lest you be judged ?
@@michaelwhite8031 Six popes have condemned freemasonry.
Tell me why I am sitting here looking at a picture of Pope John Paul the 2nd kissing the Quran?
Why DID he do it?
They're not as old as the heresy of making the gods of Catholicism in the image of Caesar's triumvirate.
It took like 400 years to create the triumvirate gods "one" by just throwing up their hands and saying, three gods are one god because we say so.
Holy Roman Catholic Church more than 2,000 years of Traditions!
Traditions, such as?
I value bible truths over man made traditions
Yes, 2,000 years of apostolic traditions - both WRITTEN (the Scripture) and ORAL ( holy or sacred tradition).
2 THESSALONIANS 2:15 SAYS IT ALL: “Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which you have been taught by us, whether by word of mouth or by our letter.”
@@geordiewishart1683 i value traditions taught by the Apostles and not man-made traditions like protestantism
@@justsomevids4541, yes, that's right!
Fascinating video that youtube recommended for me. You guys are wrong, of course, but still interesting.
Thank you for the comment. What specifically was wrong? Or guest quoted countless sources from their own writings to prove his points. Ths KS.
Half Truth and human secularism =Protestantism. I learn this from a traditionalist:Protestantism leads to modernism leads atheism.
The Catholic Church sold out when it allowed remarriage other than a widow and other non-biblical sins into the church.
THE Gospel was written in simple terms for simple people, there are no covered or hidden meanings in the word. Therefore man should not interpret as he thinks fit or rewrite or translate it as he wishes it to be!
Matthew 10. 26. Therefore fear them not; for nothing is covered that shall not be revealed; nor hid that shall not be known.
This is a simple mans view. There is only one faith, Rome!
Rome says that only its holymen know what the bible really means.
Christianity is Catholicism
HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN,, PROTECTRESS OF THE HOLY CATHOLIC FAITH
Amen
Maybe you can get Mary to join McCarricks legal defense team.
Mary's dead in the ground , waiting for
The Rapture.
@@nzbrotrev9028 the Blessed Virgin Mary is the PROTECTRESS OF THE HOLY CATHOLIC FAITH,,,,, and not of the psychopathic Half Truth and Half Lies doctrines of your psychopathic business church
@@bobdobbs943 McCarrick is not the founder of the Holy Catholic Church,,,,,, and,,,, the Holy Catholic Church will never tolerate any wrongdoings of its Clergies,,,,
I'm writing this at the 4:40 point and I'm thinking, "Wealth is good because of the OT patriarchs? Didn't God also 'change his mind' regarding polygamy, war and the death penalty? And doesn't the Church in this very day recommend holy poverty in the evangelical counsels that bind us all (CCC 915)? " But we're Americans, mind you. So I can easily see why one has to toss the teaching of Christ in Luke 14:33 (& it's fulfillment in Acts 2:44 & 4:32) into the trash before one goes on a bloody, fascist rampage against communists.
"Fascist?" you might ask. Yes. Mussolini coined the word 'fascist' in 1919 to describe his anti-communist party. So historians at the time called Hitler a fascist because of his invasion of the USSR that killed roughly 25 million and destroyed one third of the country. In any event, you have to toss a ton of scriptures against greed and its normal manifestation of wealth (cf. I Tim. 6:6-10) into the trash before you bomb other countries into dust.
Some day, the Church's nasty habit of denouncing its economic roots in Acts and eternally portraying communists in the worst possible light will be a far bigger disgrace than the Spanish Inquisition. How many millions of deaths, both through murder and neglect, did this cause? Far more than abortion, that's for sure. "Take heed that the 'light' that is in you isn't darkness!" Jesus warned the willfully blind weeds who are deceived by wealth (Sower parable) and continue to lay up treasures on earth.
Col. 2:8
luther seperated from catholic because he found errors and false teachings.he nailed his 95thesis and the papacy cannot refute his thesis.the 7 sacraments is notfound in the bible confession to the priest is not God teaching.we should confess our sins directly to Christ.the ticket to paradise is living a life pleasing in His sight and not by confession,confirmation,penance,this are not base in the bible but on creed and tradditions.catholism change the law of God.they change the sabbath saturday to sunday.God said do not make graven images nor worship them but the catholic teach to worrship idols.we should base our belief in the bible not to creed or traditions and man made doctrines.luther was right .the just shall live by faith and not by gaining salvation by works
Willie, I fear that Catholics place too much trust in their church that they have become blind to bible truths.
It doesn't seem to matter to them that the bible prohibit s behaviour which is allowed by so called tradition.
The more I read about Simon Magus being the first actual Roman pontiff, the more I see it makes sense.
Willie, the papacy cannot refute the theses?? (It's Theses not thesis) and yes the Catholic Church did refute them. In fact John Eck wrote 135 theses back to Luther correcting his errors who admitted later that he didn't understand all of these things in-depth. Luther was very mistaken on many things. He was right about some of the corruption in the church, but theologically he was a disaster. Hence the video where we showed how he received some of his beliefs which came from ancient heresies that we're not Christian.
Also, you said the sacraments aren't biblical. That's not correct. Just for example. Baptism: Mark 16:16, John 3:5, 1 Peter 3:21. The Eucharist: Matthew 26 26:26, John 6:51-55. Confession: Jn. 20:21-23. Anointing of the Sick. James 5:14.
Also the Catholic church does not keep idle worship. This is the ignorance of some Protestants like yourself. Show us just one place in any Catholic teaching where the Catholic Church says for Catholics to worship idols as you claim. There were statues made throughout the Old Testament. And yet God did not condemn them because they were not worshipped. So the prohibition was not to worship idols, it wasn't don't make any statues. We have statues of Babe Ruth and George Washington, and that's not idolatry because nobody worships them. Same thing in the Catholic church where statues are just pictures, not Idols. Idols are something you worship as God or in place of God, and statues in the Catholic church are neither.
You also mentioned to the Sabbath. Show us one place in the entire New Testament where Jesus tells us to keep the Sabbath. Show us some place where the apostles tell us to keep the Sabbath. Or anyone in the entire New Testament. We will be waiting. The fact is that all Ten Commandments are reiterated in the New Testament, several times, all except the Sabbath which is never enjoined on anyone, and in fact, the Bible says don't let people judge you about holy days and Sabbath. What you are doing. All of the earliest Christians for the first three hundred years worshipped on Sunday.
Protestantism and Evangicalism are other forms of heresy.
Papacy is the whore of babylon, that mother of harlots.
What heresy do they commit
Luther is from the richest part of Germany right now.LOL
If that is the case, does it mean anything to you?
Is God rewarding German Lutherans with riches do you think?
We catholics bow down befor images. God wants us to do that.
False. The Catholic Church condemns that. You should probably pick up a book about Catholics and find out what they really believe. Please don't remain in ignorance. We will pray for you.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Hi Brian, ive seen the light now. We catholics never bow befor images or statues. Never have and never will. I was mistaken. Forgive me.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial do you kiss the paintings like the Eastern Orthodox?
Luther was insane and appears he was possessed. He consumed worms and claimed the devil lived in his bowels. he's the reason we have megachurches with superstar preachers plus 40,000 denominations & growing, everything's been watered down and split off so much it hardly means anything anymore. 1 Maccabees 3:48-50 “And laid open the the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.” Luther was a heathen and he changed Scriptures just like the other heathens. Luther was the first Christian editor of the Bible.. If you are a Nouveau low church "Christian" you have lived through too many Bible Editions. These cannot be true Christian Bibles. The Bible of the Catholic Church is the only true Bible and the actual word of God. For instance, scholars later found that he had changed a female name from the original Greek version into a male one: Junia, a woman apostle mentioned in the New Testament in Paul's letter to the Romans. That figure was turned into a male "Junias," a name that did not exist at all in ancient times. This has been meanwhile corrected in order to reflect the significant role played by women in preaching and spreading early Christianity. The translation of the Luther Bible is constantly being revised. In 2017, the year that marked the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, a modified version was published by the German Bible Society. Antisemitic passages that had been inserted by Luther and his colleagues were changed.
Yes Luther is a spawn from the Catholic Church don’t forget he was a catholic priest 😬
@@andrewdrew677
It’s called free will. Does not matter if he was a priest. Still, either he was insane or he was evil possessed. Similar to Pedo-Moh of Islam.
@@Justas399
The gates of hell will/shall never prevail against the Catholic Church. The true church established by Jesus Christ through his apostles. There were bad popes, bad priests, bad lay people, etc.,; still the church solidly withstand for two thousand years and shall continue to remain strong. The Catholic Church is the church established by Jesus Christ and He is the only one who can dismantle it.
@@Justas399
The Protestants keeps splitting amongst themselves (40K and growing like rabbits). Those are the ones spawning. Try putting 12 Protestants from different denominations/non-denominations in one room. Give them 12 bible verses to interpret. You’ll be surprised, they’ll have more than 24 different interpretations. Let them argue amongst themselves. Soon, everyone disagrees, end results; they’ll create more denominations triplexes the numbers..
@@HG-zm2dx have you not concluded that this entire video is a farce as Rome has already embraced ecumenism in so many ways, one striking example that cuts to the heart of a Roman trad such as yourself😬 is on the Doctrine of Justification (JDDJ) a document created and agreed to by the Catholic Church's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU) and the Lutheran World Federation in 1999 as a result of extensive ecumenical dialogue. .
Go and do a little study time dude before regurgitation of nonsense re Luther and worms written by some beaten up old ani baptist 😂
Nominalism is actually not a heresy and it started in the late-medieval Catholic seminaries and monasteries. There actually are far more clear examples of the ancient heresies-Protestant connection. 1) Evangelicalism ("Saving souls for Jesus!")=Gnosticism (Jesus saves and will redeem entire humans, not just their disembodied souls!). 2) Pentecostalism=Montanism (Montanists were charismatics who believed in private revelation of the Spirit and apparently believed in the gifts of the Spirit, such as speaking in tongues, and also had female prophets). JWs=Arianism (Jesus is a god, but not God!). 4) Churches or Disciples of Christ ("Campbellites")=Donatism (both affirm post-baptismal "sinless perfection"!). 5) Non-Denominational Protestants=Nestorianism (both deny that Mary is the "Mother of God" who gave birth to the complete Godman, not just the human Jesus). All of these (and more) are truly ancient heresies present in modern Protestantism!
As someone who was baptized into the Catholic church as an infant and has explored different protestant denominations since I was teenager, I'd have to say that I'm just a Christian at this point.
You say that non-denominational Christians are like gnostics.
I don't think I have any secret knowledge that others can't attain. I just don't think that any one particular denomination is the only way to heaven. They all seem flawed in different ways and ALL of them have had bad things in their histories. All of them have had good examples of Christ as well as very bad.
I believe that only Christ is the way to heaven, not denominations or creeds. Jesus said that He is the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the Father except through Him.
We don't think anyone's denomination has the only way to Heaven either. However, Jesus started the Catholic Church, and the Catholic church is not a denomination and existed for 1500 years before man-made denominations were invented. Why would you be part of a man-made denomination versus the church that Jesus started? We would ask you to look into the Catholic Church deeper and read what the earliest Christians from the first 3 centuries taught. They did not teach denominational theology which is a man-made invention.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I agree that there shouldn't be denominations. I am currently reading through the early church fathers writings. Thanks for your informational videos. They have helped clear up a lot of misinformation on the doctrine of the Catholic church.
Please, please debunk Joel Osteen.
We will look into him at some point. :)
@@CatholicTruthOfficialEven We , Protestants reject Joel Olsteens .
If a man denies the doctrine of justification by faith alone, he denies that he is saved by Christ alone and is therefore NOT saved .
False. If a man accepts the doctrine of faith alone, he accepts a false doctrine that was not taught by Christ and contradicts the Bible (James 2:24; Mt. 25:41-46; Mt. 19:16-17, etc).
@@CatholicTruthOfficial the doctrine of faith alone is a living faith one which holds to Christ alone , so all those scriptures you gave me are in complete harmony Brian just saying 😁
@@andrewdrew677 If you are SAVED you will DO Good Works.
@@AJ_Jingco Agree. Ephesians 2:8-9. Amen to those verses. Also, usually Protestants skipped or ignored verse 10. Thank God I kept those 3 verses in my heart!
What is it with protestants and "SAVED" 😂 ....it's like a preoccupation with this sect .....if you have faith obviously you will do good works ......seems to me like protestants want to believe in an easy way to heaven .....where everyone is "saved " by just believing that Jesus died for you 😂 come on people you got to do the hard yards too ,....otherwise it's too easy .....you got to suffer ....why do you think Jesus suffered and died on the cross .....to show you that you got to suffer too to get into heaven .....no one gets an easy pass into heaven by just believing Jesus died for me so I'm saved by his death so I'm ok 😂 and just relax and do what you normally do ☺️
Islamic Allah is so confused, must have influenced, and still influencing Protestants in different disguise.
Jesus prayed "UT unum sint" there they are, our protestant brethren.
First time watching your videos, I just wanted to say, you don’t have to keep interjecting to tell us to “stick with you” and assume we’re all just confused and scratching our heads. I’m interested to hear what your guest has to say, and I feel like these interruptions are unnecessary and distracting.
Lutherans are not gnostics, the book of Concord is available for everyone to read, Christ saves body & soul, we are righteous passively in our standing with God on account of Christ that's why we are confident in our salvation thar's not merely a name calling & that assurance of righteous imputation to those who believe on these is the work of the Holy Spirit, which you Catholics rejects by virtue of your fond of sophistry & went to further asserts that "whoever says or claims sureness in salvation, let him be an anatehema"made your flock just like the Israelites in the Old Testament their faces' covered with the veil of Moses. Lutherans are not gnostics because we recognized our vocations in these life e.g. as a parent, a child, a co-worker & etc. we don't have monks like you in your Church's history. You who called yourself Christ's church were the once permeated with gnostic ideas before. We Lutherans recognized whatever resources are gifts for use to benfit neighbors as a prelude to lead them to God's goodnews or gospel. (active righteousness "good works needed by neighbors) We acknowledge we are saved by Christ body & soul & we confessed that we will be ressurected body & soul just like Christ's ressurection.
Church Fathers on SCRIPTURE ALONE using the understanding against heretics just like we are today😁
. Tertullian of Carthage (c. 160-235) [in defending the truth of the Trinity against the heretic Praxeas:]
It will be your duty, however, to adduce your proofs out of the Scriptures as plainly as we do, when we prove that He made His Word a Son to Himself. . . . All the Scriptures attest the clear existence of, and distinction in (the Persons of) the Trinity, and indeed furnish us with our Rule of faith. (Against Praxeas, 11)
DIRECT APPEAL TO SCRIPTURE NOT TRADITIONAL plain as daylight
Eye roll. You are attempting foolishly to use another Catholic, and trying to force him to believe a Protestant doctrine that was never believed for over a thousand years after Christ. Tertullian believed in the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration, the authority of the church, the church of Rome and of the Primacy of Peter, and many other Catholic distinctives. He also believed in Tradition. Bible and tradition. I bet you're not willing to accept all of these other things that tertullian believes, and you would rather just quote him out of context to try to prove something that you can't prove. It's really shameful.
Here what Tertullian says about Tradition and the authority of the Catholic Church. He's talking to her a text and how they have departed from the tradition of the Catholic Church to make up their own tradition and their own faulty interpretations of the Bible: "Where was the heretic Marcion, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago-in the reign of Antonius for the most part-and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the *Catholic Church,* in the *church of Rome* under the episcopate (papacy) of the blessed Eleutherius, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled. ... But if you are near Italy, you have Rome from where our authority derives. How happy is that Church, on which apostles poured out their whole doctrine along with their blood, where Peter endured a passion like that of our Lord, where Paul was crowned with a death like John’s.
Tertullian: "If there be any (heresies) which are bold enough to plant themselves in the midst of the apostolic age, that they may thereby seem to have been handed down by the apostles, because they existed in the time of the apostles, we can say: Let them produce the original records of their churches; let them unfold the roll of their bishops, running down in due succession from the beginning in such a manner that [that first bishop of theirs] bishop shall be able to show for his ordainer and predecessor some one of the apostles or of apostolic men,-a man, moreover, who continued stedfast with the apostles. For this is the manner in which the apostolic churches transmit their registers: as the church of Smyrna, which records that Polycarp was placed therein by John; as also the church of Rome, which makes Clement to have been ordained in like manner by Peter. In exactly the same way the other churches likewise exhibit (their several worthies), whom, as having been appointed to their episcopal places by apostles, they regard as transmitters of the apostolic seed. Let the heretics contrive something of the same kind. For after their blasphemy, what is there that is unlawful for them (to attempt)? But should they even effect the contrivance, they will not advance a step. For their very doctrine, after comparison with that of the apostles, will declare, by its own diversity and contrariety, that it had for its author neither an apostle nor an apostolic man; because, as the apostles would never have taught things which were self-contradictory, so the apostolic men would not have inculcated teaching different from the apostles, unless they who received their instruction from the apostles went and preached in a contrary manner. To this test, therefore will they be submitted for proof by those churches, who, although they derive not their founder from apostles or apostolic men (as being of much later date, for they are in fact being founded daily), yet, since they agree in the same faith, they are accounted as not less apostolic because they are akin in doctrine. Then let all the heresies, when challenged to these two tests by our apostolic church, offer their proof of how they deem themselves to be apostolic. But in truth they neither are so, nor are they able to prove themselves to be what they are not. Nor are they admitted to peaceful relations and communion by such churches as are in any way connected with apostles, inasmuch as they are in no sense themselves apostolic because of their diversity as to the mysteries of the faith."
@@CatholicTruthOfficial one can clearly see that the scriptures were always used as a means to find truth especially concerning teachings .
When one takes into consideration the term “ tradition” we can without doubt see that it was in the making during this early time period.
Scripture alone does encompass tradition however tradition that was made manifest by divine inspiration ie practiced by the apostles.
As the ECFs were universal/Christians they are a representation of all believers in truth not just Roman Catholics.
We shouldn’t be frightened to illustrate details concerning certain matters, especially regarding reformed theology and reasoning behind its following.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Heresies we’re prolific during the time period of my quote re “scripture alone” as most never had a complete collective compendium and of course there were writings un inspired circulating, some that infiltrated the church regarding mariology where through unchecked analogies grew into doctrine not practiced by the Nicean church.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It’s good practice to go through such matters as it illustrates that scripture by divine inspiration were recognized prior to the collective later on.
The term scripture alone is not understood by many outside of reformed theology and is used as a means to illustrate denial of tradition rather than to compliment it, this is the condemnation.
Interesting video, Bryan, but you still haven`t answered my questions from your last video?? Why do Catholics and other churches observe Sunday worship, when Jesus clearly teaches " And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"Mark 2:27.......and secondly.......Give us, your viewers your definition of a Cult? We`re still very interested.......
We did answer it. Why didn't you answer ours. Where did Jesus or Peter or anyone say to keep the Sabbath? All 10 commandments were reaffirmed in the New Testament accept the Saabath.
no Christian says as long as you believe in Jesus it does not matter what you believe . The Christian is one who follows the New Testament teaching to the church .All false religions follow the teaching of men .,the Roman church stopped following the Bible and like all cults followed their leaders, followed the teaching of the Pope and later the Magisterium .The Apostles said check all teaching ,Paul said if we or an Angel teach any other gospel let them be accursed. The Roman church changed the gospel ,to you must join this church , then Christen a baby and that makes it an inheritor of the kingdom .
You are ignoring the years of persecution as fiction which is a lie . Trent said any who were not R.C.were heretics and could be tortured and killed . That is Anti -Christ in thinking. They did persecute and murder thousands of protestants in Europe. Some fought back ,then you call it war.
@@Mygoalwogel 1. Does the Christian God exist. - The O.T. claims to be written by prophets . Isaiah said. ch.46: 9,10 .
'for I am God ,and there is none like me .v10. Declaring the end from the beginning ,and from ancient times the things that are not yet done .
Get a book on O.T. prophecy ,and check the references. There might be videos .
2 The problem is understanding the N.T.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men ,
v16 I am not ashamed to preach the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVETH ,
Ch.5.:8 God commendeth His love for us ,in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Luke 24:47. Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations. beginning in Jerusalem .
Acts 3:19 Repent therefore that your sins may be blotted out.
2 Tim .2:19 Let everyone that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Catholic Truth?!
What an oxymoron.
Simon Magus founded papacy.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now WE have heard it all.
RUBBISH
What specifically was said that was rubbish?
@@CatholicTruthOfficial l was bought up a Catholic but rejected the worship of saints and Christ's mother. The Catholic Church worships Christ's mother more than him. Protestants don't put the founders of the churches above Christ, NO ONE comes to the father accept through Christ. Mary or any Saint cannot intercede for you. Christ offers you salvation as a free gift if you believe he came, died and was raised again for our sins. Salvation
based on works is like rags it can't save you either. I believe there are many good people who are Catholic, but you are judge and jury for those who don't follow what you believe. Don't judge lest you be judged.
I suggest you read a book called 'The Two Babalons'.
@@michaelwhite8031 That's strange. You said that you were brought up as a Catholic and that you were "worshipping" Mary while you were a Catholic? Well, well, if that is true, then you must have a misguided and confused Catholic back then. I am a Catholic and I don't worship Mary, I haven't seen any of my fellow Catholics worshipping Mary, neither have I seen any official teaching document of the Catholic Church that approves the practice of worshipping Mary
@@jerome8950 l.was a child at the time and did not know any better. The fact that catholics pray to Mary is a form of worship. Don't bandy and twist my words, what are you a Jesuit ?
@@michaelwhite8031 Sorry, I am not trying to twist your words. "Prayer" and "worship" are not synonymous. The word "prayer" can be used to describe the process of making a request for GOD, and ALSO from MAN. For example, When Bathsheba came before Solomon to make a request, she said: "I have a small petition of thee, I PRAY thee..." (1 Kings 2:20 KJV)
Cool. Now let's talk about Pope Francis
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sunday keeping is not what the bible teaches.in gen.3 you will find that God sanctified rested and bless the 7th day sabbath.in ex.20.in the 4th commandment God said,remember the sabbath day to keep it holy and the 7thday is not sunday.where in the bible you can find that God command to keep sunday?it is only a command made by man.in luke 4:16 jesus keep the sabbath.so who change the sabbath?emperor constantine in 321 ad change the sabbath to sunday and was accepted by the roman church.infant baptism is not also what jesus taught.jesus was baptized when he was 30 years old by john in the jordan river.baptizo means to immerse the whole body not pouring or just sprinkling.we are looking here for the truth not hurting individuals because the truth will set us free.
Nowhere in the entire New Testament does Jesus, or the apostles, or anyone tell us to keep the Sabbath. Every one of the Ten Commandments is reiterated in the New Testament all except the Sabbath. We have a whole video on this. ua-cam.com/video/aMHL8BgFVKk/v-deo.html
@@CatholicTruthOfficial luke 4:16 jesus keep the sabbath.john 14:15 if you love me keep my commandments
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Jesus also doesn't say to not put tattoos on a body in the New Testament. He also doesn't say to keep Sunday. He also doesn't say that rape isn't okay in the New Testament. But, yeah. Your argument is flawed on that one
The Didache shows that in the first century Christians worshipped on Sundays.
The concept of a Pope is heretical and so is praying to Mary or ANY human being like Saint this or that.
Neither are heretical. Popenis biblical. The word pray has several definitions. One of those definitions according to the dictionary, is to implore, intercede, beseech, to ask. And so on. And so when we pray, so-called, to the same, we are just asking them to pray for us to Jesus. There's nothing in the Bible that condemns that.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Popenis biblical?
Yes, Luther was a heretic. He, like the church of Rome, taught and practiced much that the Bible does not teach. A true Christian is neither Catholic nor Protestant but one with a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ whose doctrine is based not upon man or a manmade institution or "church" but is based upon the Word of God.
That's what protestants claim. To have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and just go by The Bible. So you are a protestant.
Your other straw man argument is that both catholics and protestants base their arguments and beliefs on the word of God. So again, you're a protestant, but you hold to a false doctrine, sola scriptura.
Christianity is based on the Apostolic teaching ,as they were chosen by Jesus . This is nothing to do with Islam, or Luther .The Roman church Is not the historic church ,it broke away gradually ,but finally through Theodosius making it the only religion and telling everyone to join . That is not the gospel of Christ .
The Roman church then labeled all others heretics and condemned them to death for centuries.
You do not understand what non denominationalism means , a denomination is a church organised by a group of men, who lead a group of churches ,like your magisterium. If they go wrong so do their followers . Those who only follow God's word are united , I have found this when meeting other Christians from all over the world .When they ignore what the Bible teaches and follow a teacher, that is what leads to problems . You would not understand this .The true church is led by the Holy Spirit through the word of God. He gives the gifts of teacher etc. because He said so.
The Catholic church was around long before a theodosius. There were over thirty Catholic Popes before that Emperor. So I think you and your history are a bit confused. The pups go all the way back to Saint Peter himself who was made the head of the church and alone received the Keys of the Kingdom. As you said, the Church of Jesus Christ was built on the apostles and the authority that he gave them which was passed on to other men and has come down to the Catholic Church two thousand years later today.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Your problem is all your teaching comes from the Roman church .Of course the Popes do not go back to Peter and he was never the head of the church . The head of the church is Jesus Christ not a man . Each church had its own bishops ,there was no head bishop over all the others .
The first to claim some of the powers attributed to Peter was BISHOP Stephanus 254. Stephens invocation of Matt. 16. was the first instance of a bishop attempting to elevate himself above the other bishops. Others built on this.Leo 440 . called himself Pontifex Maximus ,the title of the pagan chief priest. and his decisions were final.
At the start of the 7th cent. the British church refused to submit to Papal authority, saying ''We know nothing of the bishop of Rome in his new character of the Pope .We are the British church ,the Archbishop of which is is accountable to God alone .,having no superior on earth.' '
The authority given to the Apostles could not be passed on, as the qualifications to be an Apostle meant they were personally taught by Jesus and lived in the first cent.They appointed elders in the new churches but there is no mention of passing on authority. Peter was the Apostle to the Jews not the Gentiles ,that was Paul.
This does not mean the British church was as Biblical as it was when it started ,but does suggest that the Pope was not recognised and was putting pressure on nations to accept Rome as the leading church.
The keys - Keys unlock doors. Matt. 23::13.Jesus addressing the Jewish leaders said 'Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites that SHUT the door of the kingdom in men's faces.' At Pentecost Peter was the first to open the door of the kingdom by preaching the first gospel message ,that Christ was crucified and had risen ,meaning if they believed he had died for their sins and repented ,they could be forgiven and have everlasting life .This message is no more to do with the Roman church than any other.
Peter could not be the head Apostle as Paul said in 2 Cor. 12 :12.' for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest Apostles'. They were equal.
@@wendymitchell8245 *_The first to claim some of the powers attributed to Peter was BISHOP Stephanus 254. Stephens invocation of Matt. 16. was the first instance of a bishop attempting to elevate himself above the other bishops._*
Actually the first claim was in Clements letter to the Corinthians in 80AD, this would have been while the Apostle John was still alive.
Ignatius of Antioch also speaks of the primacy of the Church of Rome in 110AD.
Iranaeus wrote of the primacy of Rome in Against Heresies in 189 AD
*_The authority given to the Apostles could not be passed on, as the qualifications to be an Apostle meant they were personally taught by Jesus and lived in the first cent._*
Luke and Mark weren't taught by Jesus and I'm sure you would agree that they the authority to write scripture. Timothy and Titus had authority and they were personally taught by Paul not by Jesus. Luke was a follower of Paul and Mark was a follower of Peter.
*_They appointed elders in the new churches but there is no mention of passing on authority._*
I would read 1 and 2 Timothy. Paul speaks repeatedly of the authority he handed on to Timothy and explains to Timothy how he is to hand on that authority to other faithful men.
*_Peter could not be the head Apostle as Paul said in 2 Cor. 12 :12.' for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest Apostles'. They were equal._*
I would say Paul disagrees with you in this very verse. Paul is just trying to defend the fact that he is an apostle here. He is not claiming equality. We can see this by the fact that he used the words "very chiefest". The plain and straightforward definition of this term tells us that Paul believed there was a chiefest defined as "First or foremost; chief; principal" among the Apostles. Not trying to claim that this proves it was Peter, just pointing out that it proves Paul didn't consider himself equal to the others and there was one who was the chiefest among them.
If you include *_1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, unfit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God._* in your interpretation of this verse you will see even more evidence that Paul did not think himself equal to the other Apostles.
God Bless
@@Matt-1926 Clements letter to the Corinthians was nothing to do with Matt. 16 .The church there was a constant problem ,and the leaders were unsuitable so Clement was asked to sort it . He was not saying he was head over all bishops.
@@wendymitchell8245 What's Matthew 16 have to do with anything? It seemed to me that your were claiming all apostles were equal and no one Bishop had any authority over another.
*_The church there was a constant problem ,and the leaders were unsuitable so Clement was asked to sort it ._*
Sure but why was he asked? Why didn't they go to John instead? After all he was an Apostle and was closer to Corinth than Clement was. Especially, when you take into account that Clements letter apologizes for the Church in Rome being somewhat tardy in turning their attention to the matters in dispute. I mean why would they keep wait for Clement to settle the matter and not turn elsewhere?
Also, if no leader has authority over another than how can anyone say the leaders were unsuitable?
Clement also tells them if they accept the counsel/authority of the Church of Rome they will regret nothing?
He also informs them to be obedient to what he has written to them.
Sure seems to me like Clement put his foot down and settle the matter. Not just asked to "sort it" like it was a minor disagreement.
At the end of the day this is about authority. It is easy to see in the Bible that Jesus did not consider all of the Apostles to be equal. Why would we think this would change after He ascended?
God Bless
I hate how judgemental protestants are
I am quite frankly shocked and saddened by your lack of understanding and hard heartedness. You are blind in your casting of stones. I spent this entire video laughing and cringing at the weak attempts and misconstrueal you made to prove this supposed link. It is honestly quite sad that this level of thinking is enough to convince any Catholic of the supremacy of their own beliefs. One would think that a true Catholic would want to study our beliefs in good faith, so that by refuting it they could bring glory to God. Instead, you have made yourselves a clear mockery of a Christian.
People who have no education about Christianity and its origins, would indeed think that. This is why you should not invent you own religion.
Early Christians were Catholic. You laugh at them.
What nonsense ,all Christians I know only use the inspired word of God . R.C.'s also use philosophy. Luther retained much of R.C. teaching as he wanted to reform the church.
Show us one passage where it says to only go by the bible and we will leave the Catholic Church. But of course, this is a man-made protestant teaching. That's not from God and has never been heard of in the history of Christianity before the 1400s. At that late date, it's not much better than mormons.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Oh ,dear . have you ever studied the N.T. or only the few verses selected by the Roman church. What do you think inspiration means ? and who were the Apostles ? What job were they given? When I was young I went through the N.T. noting down all verses relevant to the subject of inspiration and prophecy. I suggest you do the same if you are serious.
You seem to think inspiration is a man made idea ,of course it is not, it comes from GOD'S Word .You should have found this in the 'fathers' writings.
@wendymitchell8245 the New Testament didn't even exist until AD 382. What did Bible Alonesters do before then?
"Do Protestants lie about Catholics?" Why yes! All the time!
@@fantasia55 Pick their nose.
Just shaking my head! You guys you are really confused and are now confusing others ~ the guy has just said the Church is the incarnation ~ extent of incarnation ~ whatever that means. Ouch!
Yes an ancient heretical Church, Roman Catholic the mother who call them back home.
It's just the Catholic church, not the Roman Catholic church, and the Catholic church is the church that was started by Jesus Christ. Every other church is man-made.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial sorry, your emperor Charlemagne wanted to distinguish his church from those in the east. You are Roman Catholic till the schism is healed.
@@Dlee-eo5vv Yes. We need a way to distinguish Papists from other true Catholics such as Union of Utrecht Catholic Church, Union of Catholic Apostolic Churches, Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church, Genuine Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox Old-Rite Church, Russian Old-Orthodox Church, ‘Nikonite’ Russian Patriarchate, Pomeranian Old-Orthodox Church, Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia, Old Calendar Orthodox Church, ‘New Calendar’ Church of Greece, Oriental Orthodox Church, Syrian Church of the East, Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East, Chaldean Church of the East, Ancient Church of the East.
@@Mygoalwogel I never said all Orthodox were Orthodox. Unity secures truth is true but your Church caused this great separation which as seen with the protestants multiples error.
@@Dlee-eo5vv None of the churches above are protestant.
Luther and other protestants do hold to a view of imputed righteousness that is alien to man by grace through faith. However, this is not by name only. The righteousness is Jesus' righteousness. Thus it would not be like if God wanted to crucify a donkey or whatever interesting analogies that were given.
Also you have Protestant's view of the sufficiency of the Bible wrong. Actually for most protestants people do not necessarily need a minister to help them know God through the Bible. It helps but could they know God if they were alone on a desert island with a bible? Yes. So the church and tradition is important but not necessary per protestants. Tradition and especially hte church IS necessary in RC.
Also correlation is not causation. you have to actually show how Luther, Calvin , and other reformers actually used these other philosophies. Maybe it is in the book but iti s not in the video. And just because there are things that are the same it does not mean Luther was wrong. Both Muslim and Christians worship a monotehistic God. Okay. Does that make Christians wrong since it is the same as Islam? No, of course not.
Also one has to remember the church was already split at the time of Luther. there was not one church I would argue that Rome overstepped its bounds with adding the filioque into the Nicene Creed. Rome seemed to do this a lot as it was the only important see in the West. The East had many (Jerusleum, Constaniople, Antcioch, etc) But in the end there was already a split because two sides of the church thought they had the correct doctrine. Also there were a lot of other people who held different views. Luther was just the first to split with RC without getting killed before his movement took off.
I do not have time to read the book but after watching this video I think it would be a waste of time.A lot of what he ends up saying most protestants reject. The gnosticism argument is one of those.
Luther's teaching comes mainly from the Roman church .In Islam from the clerics ,and the same in the Roman church . In Christianity it is from God's inspired word through the APOSTLES WHO JESUS CHOSE Telling John in Rev.1. to write it in a book.
Paul said 2 Tim. 2:15. Study to show thyself approved God ,a workman that - - rightly dividing the word of God.
The Roman church says only we can do this.-wrong .
It is not study that divides it is the lack of it .and the desire to make a God that suits ones self.
To study Islam one finds more in common with THE ROMAN CHURCH . They say only we interpret the Word of God. and we have our traditions to add to it. Islam also say if you leave our religion we should kill you.
The Roman church had fallen into heresy and was not any longer the historic church. That is why many wanted to reform it ,not just Luther . The Roman churches answer was we must kill them , showing they were wrong , and more like Islam. .
What's the Roman church?
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 The church started in Rome, who Paul wrote to and visited twice and was murdered in a nearby location. It is controlled today by the Vatican in Rome.
@@wendymitchell8245 Wendy, these people are bewitched. They see the complete corruption and perversion in their church but still think its gods true church. Dont even pray for them.
@@bobdobbs943 We have two converted R.C.'s. in my small church . I worked with one who in her 50's , told me she had doubts for years about their claims ,she also left. Pray for them.
@@wendymitchell8245 if one opens a bible, that one will right away have doubts about the cc doctrine.
You have a good example of sun worship there with your wafer in the sun. You can see more in early Roman wall paintings on UA-cam, of Christ in a chariot pictured as the sun God . The confusion mainly started by Constantine who added Christianity to his list of Roman Gods.
Nothing to do with sun worship anywhere. You really don't care about truth. You just want to prove something no matter how lame the arguments are. Or you have been just that deceived. That's really sad.
It's called the Eucharist! And it's the true Son who we worship, Jesus Christ!
@@CatholicTruthOfficial It is because I do care about the truth I examine things more carefully than you. Have you bothered to look up the early Roman wall pictures of Jesus as the Sun god in a chariot. crossing the sky. What you say applies to you not me. There is no genuine reason for the sun symbol to appear in all the R.C. churches. Your false system does not compare with Biblical Christianity . Study the Bible and be open to the truth or you will be without excuse on judgement day. .
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I am not saying you worship the sun ,but it shows the origins of the Roman church became a mixture of Christian and pagan .
@@wendymitchell8245 It’s funny how Catholics want to make comparisons for Protestantism relating to ancient religions even though Catholicism is in literal danger of being compared to paganism.
The Catholics ENTIRE doctrine of Mary comes from ancient religions .
Really? The entire set of Christian beliefs about Mary comes from non-Christian religions?
Why don't you back that up with actual facts and not conspiracy theories?
@@javierpalos5035 They can't protestants make their own religions (plural) from their owns version of "facts". When historical facts don't align with their made up religions, they just make "facts" up.
All of "Protestantism" is Heresy, no matter what the Flavour, some will choose. It Saddens me.
I'm still NOT a "Fan" of the Novus Ordo and I will continue with the TLM until it "goes away". The Home Missa Sicca is Catholicism, just in a Home setting.
Great Video, btw. :-)
The mass of all ages will not go away as long as there are faithful Christians.
If you are willing in anyway to except the freemasonic , protestant influenced Novus ordo - I’m afraid you’re not part of that faithful Catholic group.
Christians cannot except some thing that is non-Christian.
Sigh. It's not the Mass of all ages. It's not even the original Mass and there are other Catholic Rites older than the Roman Rite. The Catholic Mass which is the TLM and the NO are both Catholic and neither are Protestsnt. The only thing that is Protestant is this comment which is the same Rebellion against the authority of the church that the Protestants have.
Owl Eminator your comment is ridiculous as you illustrate being a trad in your comment especially regards the mass but alsot know nothing of the joint declaration between Rome and the Lutheran church on JUSTIFICATION, so how the heck can you be saddened 🧐
@@CatholicTruthOfficial "Sigh". Since WHEN is the Novus Ordo 'The Mass of the Ages'? Oh, since 1965!
Did the ANYONE from the Vatican II Council meet with any of the Living Apostles or Jesus Himself, to set the agenda of the 'Novus Ordo' Mass, in the mid 1960's?
The TLM has a Longer history within the Church, than the N.O, which is WHY so Many flock to it!
@Catholic Truth, despite the current Pope restricting the TLM, more people convert to Catholicism because of the Latin Mass. Last Sunday, the Novus Ordo Mass attracted 22 people but the TLM attracted over 150-which Mass reaches more people, in your estimation?
@@andrewdrew677 Who is 'Owl Eminator'?