$1,000 Water pump? On a Chevy Equinox? CAR WIZARD show how much this repair is like working on a BMW
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- How can the water pump on this 2012 Chevy Equinox really cost $1,000 to repair? Let the CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ show you and you will understand how this repair reminds him of working on BMWs.
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Some folks wanna diss Wizard for charging $1k for the job in sub comments. Look, the man invests money in tools knowledge and other overhead costs. If you dont like what he charges, dont watch.
The man does honest work, and gives honest prices. If you dont think so talk to the man dont be a punk and comment under others to hide your comment. Be a grown up and stand on your own .
Next on Hovies Garage: "I bought the cheapest Equinox in the USA and it needs a water pump"
thanks planned obsolescence that we can get such cheap used suv lol
I think the older ones came with the 3400 V6. The 2800/3100/3400/3500 engines have the world's easiest water pump to replace! Right at the top near the radiator, loosen belt, remove pulley bolts, remove water pump bolts, and its out.
bigpjohnson we have a 3900 impala and there fairly decent to replace the water pump to
I used to own a 95 Saturn SL1, hardest part about changing the water pump on it was getting the pully off because of the clearence between the frame and the pully bolts. Had to jack up the engine to be able to get them out, other then that fairly straight forward process.. Guess I couldn't complain though compared to this nightmare here.
someone needs to design an LS swap kit for these junk Chevys
Never done a water pump on an equinox for a no heat complaint but have done plenty of heater cores 😉
“Welcome back viewers to the South Main Auto channel, we have here a 2012 Chevrolet Equinox with the big 2.4”
Those suck balls to do. I've only done 2 I believe. Well, 1 was a heater core and the other an evaporator. We don't see a lot of those failures here in AZ
Hahaha. I have an 06 equinox w/ the 3.4 and the pump is simple but that heater core gives me nightmares
Chevys are junk
Exactly what I was thinking!
Last time I was this early, Car Wizard still loved BMW and Audi.
Last time i was that early, i was informed there wouldnt be a second date.
@CarWizard Bought a used 2013 Equinox a couple years ago. Oil was changed a few weeks before I bought it. Driving along a few weeks later my check engine light comes on. A friend of mine said check your oil. It was so low, it didnt read on the dip. This thing goes thru about a quart of oil every 500 or so miles. I kept up with it until the timing chain went. I decided to go with a re-manufactured engine instead of fighting the oil consumption war. I had come into the money to be able to do it. 7500 dollars for that engine. Installed. It has a 3 year 100k mile warranty. Its the best i could do. I love the Equinox when its running. But the engine has been a son of a gun. Just had this done a few weeks ago. And I hadnt had to put oil in it yet after 800 miles. I just got lucky with the money at the right time. Where else can you get a good used vehicle for 7500 dollars with a 3 year 100k mile warranty these days? You cant. Will see how this goes, lol. Wish me luck!!
If you have never taken off a catalytic converter/rusty exhaust parts before, you won't understand the pain and hassle
Heat and water over time on the studs and nuts tends to "fuse" the two together over time. I drilled out many head exhaust bolts and learned this the hard way also. It is not fun work in any way, shape, or form. Fred
Not if you live in Las Vegas. I was able to un bolt the factory exhaust on a 92' Jeep without breaking any studs. Things are a pleasure to work on when they're not Rusty.
My friend got one of those. It was soooo hard to hold my tongue and not ask, "Why do you hate yourself?"
This is why I highly encourage people to do thorough research on any vehicle you’re thinking of buying.
I followed this advice when I wanted to buy a ford edge.
Learned that it has the same water pump in timing chain situation.
Wised up and bought a Lexus RX.
Couldn't be happier.
If you did that, no one would buy a new car. They are all over-complicated with little concern to serviceability and attendant repair costs.
Car complaints is a website I constantly use. I'll also use reddit as a search for a car and see what the mechanic subreddit says. If you're lazy and don't want to do research just get a Toyota or Lexus and call it a day.
@@CeeZee001 car complaints does have a few flaws like no vin number is required for registering a complaint, also they seem to have an issue distinguishing an I-4 issue from a v6. I noticed most of the complaints were at random mileage and never followed up. Some cars get a pass when there is a known defect. With an unsecured site like that, I think Ford salesman or Buick salesman can write bad reviews all day. Recently a friend refused to buy a used car because of bad reviews on the site, bought a Kia instead because there were no complaints and had his engine implode (common Kia issue)
@@alskooper3319 That's the idea.
unfortunately, new car market is trying really hard to switch to a 3 year lease model, and anything past that is an after thought. Especially with European cars.
Car Wizard great video, as always. I had a 2003 BMW 330xi with a five speed and the only thing I had to repair in my 150 thousand miles of ownership was a window regulator and a water pump (I was on the original clutch when I sold it 12 years later as I didn’t want to find out how much that would be). It was a great car a fun car and based on all of your videos I consider myself extremely lucky that it didn’t cost me a lot more. When I bought it I went in knowing that routine maintenance and repairs would be costly. I did all of the routine maintenance and maintained it well. My philosophy is if you take care of your car it will take care of you. Keep the videos coming and again a great video!
Dude this guy exaggerates everything about bimmers, I’ve had mine for 2 years and it has not failed on me once. Just spent money on regular maintenance and flat tires pretty much.
Over here in Europe the older Vauxhall/ Opel Insignia ( Buick Regal) that has the 2.0 diesel (pre 2016) is the same. Over here they replace the pump at the same time as renewing the timing belt. The newer has the pump driven by the aux belt. Gets better the 1.6 diesel found in that car is chain driven but the chain is on the gearbox side so its engine out to change the chain if you have an issue. Thats a 15hr job
The Chevrolet Cruze and Equinox in the USA also gets the 1.6 diesel.
Usually the 2.4 doesn’t last long enough to need a water pump 😂
I always get a kick out of following these up on ramps and seeing them belch out blue smoke. Garbage
My 2011 equinox just turned 200k miles this week driving back from Florida to Massachussets for the 6th time and never had a problem with the water pump.
@@RodrRodr-tx5lq what number engine are you on?
@@SawyerSmoak he won't tell you he going to say problem free since he brought it but people know gm it's no way problem free
@@SawyerSmoak still original engine and transmission but replaced catalytic converter and O2 sensors and oil seal at 185k miles, intake VVT valve about 2 months, spark plugs and coils about 4 months ago. But the reason this car has gone for so long is I keep checking the oil and never let it get low since this engine has a reputation for burning oil. I have also used 10w40 instead of the recommended 5w30 to compensate for engine wear.
This is why I became a mechanic, I was always to poor to pay someone to fix my vehicles.
you became a mechanic because you are unable to spell the simplest of words… TO in this case - should be TOO
@@richardgrand9476 lol? Now off the top of your head, tell me the firing order for a c-15, 6CT and dd15 motors.
No kidding man. You never know people's situation. Not being able to pay 1k bill in the middle of a pandemic is apparently something to b be ashamed of? Anyways, good luck wrenching out there
EXACTLY! How Xan You Pay a Garage/Dealer $100 + an Hour when You Don't Make That??
@@richardgrand9476 Absolute dick. I'd like you to tell me how the PCV system works and creates a vacuum in the engine. Can you tell me how a simple oil filter screen can cause oil pressure issues. What about camshaft bridges and complex oiling systems. What about all the electrical systems in cars nowadays and how to diagnose failures? What about my suspension geometry? No? Guess you should leave it to the mechanics who are smart. Just because someone gets down and dirty on something mechanical and is "blue-collar" doesn't mean they are dumb by any stretch of the imagination.
Opel and Saab were heavily involved in designing to ecotec. This probably explains why the water pump is designed to be a pain in the ass
The water pumps never outlast the timing chain and guides on these 2.4.... I’m sure that one with 171k had it done already and they cheeped out on doing the water pump at the same time
Modern timing chains - if they aren't meant for the "Lifetime" of the engine - are usually rated for 200k miles. Some times the tensioner can easily be replaced from the side or whatnot, but rarely is the chain expected to ever be replaced before the vehicle is off the road.
@@Mis73rRand0m take a page from the book of BMW, Audi, or some MB engines and you will quickly realize that just because they are rated for 200k or lifetime does not mean they won't fail sooner.
@@masonburhoe2559 Oh i fully understand, hence why I said "expected to be replaced." The factory doesn't expect to do the job because they hope the part is actually engineered to last 200k... expectations often fail to meet reality in the German vehicle engineering world.
It’s on it’s second engine and transmission.
This man is honest and a hard worker. Great content, I enjoy the channel.
No car in my state NH looks like that under it. What a treat. EVERYTHING IS RUST AND A STRUGGLE IN THE SALT BELT.
Indeed
You want to see the things I see in the U.K. we surrounded buy salt air and the salt the roads for 4 months a year I’ve had to weld 6 year old fords over here 🤣
@@andrew1979ish Same shite here my friend. Freakin nuts
@@chrisdigital it breaks my heart every time I take my own out in winter crazy thing is u be luck we see a week of snow all winter 🤷♂️
@@andrew1979ish Yup that's New York. The roads are covered in rock salt literally 6 months of the year, Then the humidity in the summer accelerates the oxidation. Holes right through frames, bolts seized in place. It's the worst bro Check out a channel called South Main Auto he's in upstate NY and has prime examples of rotten ass NY cars and trucks
Guilty and apologize Wizard - I am in TX, my daughter was in Newton going to school. Found Wizards shop via YT a year or two back and had her bring her E46 3 series into the shop for a coolant light. Did not know that the Wizard did not like BMW's at that point in time. Ended up needing a new cap and some coolant is all (thank you for not messing us over). I also called in payed the bill :) She is in Wichita now so if the car needs worked on when not in TX (where I normally maintain the car) I will have her go over to the Ninja -LOL
It's really not his business or concern to be worried about how the work gets paid for. Different cultures have different family structures/traditions. It isn't his job to scrutinize familial dynamics. It's his job to fix the water pump and get paid for it.
He isn't a sociologist or family counselor. He's a mechanic. You owe him zero apology lol
And for the record, before anyone says anything, I've been on my own since 16, don't have a father and never got shit from any other family member. I've always paid for my own shit but who hasn't needed some help from time to time? I wish I had someone to help once in a while.
@@maquesim4296 I didn’t know what you were talking about as I hadn’t gotten to the end yet, but now I watched it all and heard what he said. I can’t say I really disagree with him, but he should have probably kept it to himself. Not because he can’t have an opinion, but because others are so easily offended.
I can't think of any "culture" whose family structure is proud of having an adult moocher to support. Good for you for not being a liability to your family or others. Hope you raise your kids to get things done themselves.
Somewhere on the internet, Scotty is shaking his head and says "I told you so."
Love the picture of the Chevy dealer he flashes when he talks of junkyards! 😂
There are very few GM vehicles like this, the majority of GM cars are some of the easiest to work on. Scotty is a bumbling idiot that is wayyy too brand loyal.
GM makes a attractive vehicles but what's the point if they won't last without constantly throwing money at them. Say what you will about Toyotas simple design but it works time after time.
@@JoshuasRecordings no they're mainly junk and I stupidly purchased a brand new one last December, no problems yet (fingers crossed)
@@tonebonebgky2 No, only the ones with eco tec engines are junk. GM V8s are some of the most reliable V8s on the planet. The eco tec ones are no worse than many engines from that time frame unless compared to Toyota. Go watch the Wizards videos on GM recommended vs. not.
I owned a 2013 Chevy Captiva. Wonderful car. Comfortable, well optioned and dependable. I got 168000 mile before selling it for nearly $5000.
My mom has a 2012, 145k miles no issues and she bought it used, but it's very well maintained
Next video : "Why Car Wizard won't work on Chevy Equinoxes"
He's a Range Rover fan, he loves working on unreliable pieces of crap...
Heck, thats one of those deals where you get all the work on that particular type engine/platform area wide. and even the crappiest job gets easier when you done it a few times.
@@M4rt_FX but owners of Range Rovers are more manageable for him. And they're luxury vehicles so there's a sense of respect to maintaining them. They are not a commuter car like this Equinox.
Both are junk, but one is more respected and desirable than the other.
@@aaryeshg.6526
BMW is also a luxury brand. No sense in picking it out as a brand. Just as many people by C class and A3s too for example, without the money to back it up. He’s trying to justify previous poorly made comments is all.
Im sure the dealer is much more expensive
At least he's honest . people are entitled to their own opinions but the way I see it he's a man trying to run a honest business and trying make a living I it's nice to learn the process of the mechanical work .
The guy is lucky he got 171,000 miles out of an Equinox
Mine is a 2011 and just turned 200k miles
@@HermannTheGreat I didn’t what?
I got 176,000 On Malibu....Same 2.4l
@@RodrRodr-tx5lq they probably meant you reaching 200K on your Equinox since that is almost unheard of on these engines.
What's the verdict on the v6 models? I have a '12 3.0V6 AWD
I agree I also felt like I was working on a BMW. I took this job from my C tech once I read the instructions. I started it a night with the intention of finishing it in the morning. When I came to work the next day I discovered I was now replacing the chain cover, sprockets and chain/chain guides. The sales man wanted to show the car to the customer and started it with the water pump sprocket tool bolted to the cover.
Lol Wizard with the roast at the end of Mommy and Daddy buying their grown children a BMW.
snowflake kids , daddy mommy buy me a car pay for the gas and pay to have the car fixed , i don't have a job and live in your house , ( IT'S MY RIGHT ) you owe me ....
Did one today at home garage, no lift. For sure the most uncomfortable water pump to replace but it was done.
I find it hilarious how BMW owners are getting their parents to pay for their repairs
Helicopter parents. And I bet it's not just BMW repairs but Chevy, Ford and that cute little Fiat 500 they bought for Princess. And if those kids have jobs, I bet Mommy calls in for them when they get sick or feel triggered.
They probably have to go & find a safe space when they get the bill
Nothing new about that. I experienced this 40 years ago at my family shop.
The same parents that bought their kid a nice car in high school that they didn't appreciate and just tore up. They then had college paid for, with a house rented for Princess or idiot son along with another car. Daddy knows a guy that owns a business that owes him a favor, so idiot son gets office job instead of guy that worked in the trenches for decades.
With those engines, it's better to replace the water pump when replacing the timing chain and vice versa because those are interference engines. That's if the timing chain hasn't already been changed. So when doing the estimation for the customer, give them two. One for replacing the water pump only and a second for replacement of the water pump, timing chain and related compnants. Also, if a customer asks for an estimate to replace the timing chain, give them two. One for the replacement of the timing chain and related componants . Then give them a second estimate for the replacement of the timing chain and water pump. Explain to them that if they replace the water pump and timing chain, it will prevent major engine damage and the repairs will more than likely out live the vehicle.
I imagine the Equinox would have taken even longer if it was AWD!
Yeah I'd stay away from anything AWD unless you live in the mountains. More crap to break and work around for every other repair
Yes you would have to remove the driveshaft
i would agree with AWD statement. However, i'm 80% sure AWD was only equipped on V6 version of this vehicle.
@@robertbell525 Very good point to make. Most don’t understand that AWD adds to maintenance cost, provided they even touch the transfer case or rear differential to change fluids. Then dealing with extra stuff to be removed for a repair like this one plus the lousy gas mileage!
@@canadatransistor lmao V6 and AWD is double kill.
They want you to buy a new one when the the water pump fails.
Exactly. Planned obsolescence. The problem with this "logic" is that sometimes the customer becomes outraged and boycotts the brand forever. This is the problem of the American Big 3.
@@kevinkeeney6693 so buy a Toyota Lexus.
This is absolutely on the level. On ANY of the 4 cylinder GM engines (design they got from SAAB and modified for VVT) you have to pull the crank pulley/harmonic balancer and remove the front cover from the engine just to get to the water pump. Same for the oil pump. I recently went through this drill on my 2.2L (on a Chevy). If you do this DYI you better know what you are doing. It is an all day job if you have a well equipped shop like "Wizard" has.
Let's not forget the lovely timing chains =)
Thanks for showing the special tool. I bought one for myself through your Amazon store. It's not that expensive and it's good to have just in case. I have a CobaltSS with the same type of water pump. If it ever goes out at least I have the tool.
I thought it seemed familiar, turns out it's a common rental part at some parts stores as well.
The cost of the tool is not really the focus. Shouldn't need a special tool that the average backyard mechanic will toss in his toolbox and never use again to do a simple job like a water pump on an American car. Those plastic clutch alignment tools that come with new clutch kits are more useful to have. At least they will most likely get used more than once.
On my Subaru, you have to remove the timing belt in order to access the water pump. I just change the water pump whenever the timing belt is due as well as the cam and crank shaft seals.
I called my dealer for a quote on just the labor, and he quoted $900. I just wanted to know how much money I was saving by doing it myself so I could justify the purchase of some new tools I probably don’t need.
Ecotech=Ecotrash
It's the truth
Ecowreck
Ecoshit Vauxhall crap is the same
Still better than the 3.6 V-6
I still want to mention that I'm not saying that the 2.4 is great either
As a friend of mine sais.... All cars are crap, but some are more crap than others.
None are more crap that equinox, terrain and acadia.
@@tonebonebgky2 We don`t have those here in Norway.
Ride ah Honda till the wheels fall off
@@Berven-gf9jq You aren't missing much.. Pure junk..
First there's poop. Then crap. The next is shit, but then there's defecation. Go by that instead. I got that from the Angry Video Game Nerd lol.
Love your reviews. You dont hold back and never sugarcoat bullshit engineering. U got my respect bro
For the record, I love my 3 series BMW. I am also addicted to maintenance.
A year later the shop I work for is charging 1,800 for this job. But that also includes a coolant flush, coolant resivor cap, and an hour of diag.
And you just know some beancounter patted himself on the back for mandating the waterpump be there instead of somewhere easily serviced as "a marvel of packaging"
I have a traverse. Water pump was $175 for OEM and took about 30 minutes. Timing chains only go bad in 3.5 V6 if you don’t regularly change the oil. Since you haven’t worked on domestic vehicle for a while perhaps you should brush up. Most new vehicles use timing water pump integration. The Equinox is a big POJ but don’t group the Traverse, Enclave and the Acadia into this group.
Thank you.
I had one done at my mechanic and was charged $700.00. Since I had already watched this video I knew that his price was good. My car had 105 thousand miles when it started leaking.
Me thinking to myself. thank God I own 90s Corolla that I can actually work on myself water pump and timing belt replace for under 100 bucks.
Yea but then again you have to drive around in a 25 year old corolla.
@@Tool0GT92 Hey, for some people it's all about point a to point b and nothing more...plus, it Beats walking!
@@Tool0GT92 an old Toyota does the job just as well as the poorly-designed minivan in this video.
@@dcan911 forget an equinox or old corolla id rather drive something fun
@@Tool0GT92 I can see where you're coming from. But really it doesn't bother me and hell what other people think. I payed 1200 bucks for that thing 12 years ago the total cost of repairs for it have cost me less then what i payed for it. I live in Southeastern Arizona I've taken it on road trips to Cali and up north multiple times and has never let me down. Would not hesitate to drive it cross country. I also own a motorcycle I don't need anything else. I'm sure the day will come when I do. But for now this car is doing it what I need it to.
The beard of knowledge
The water pump on a 2014 was around 100 dollars, it took me 3 hours doing it myself, on ramps it wasn't fun but I've seen alot worse, it wasn't worth all the mouthing you did about this car, get with it and get it done, you get paid well, all cars are not service friendly these days. And the customer pays dearly for the repairs and service on most makes and models.
I felt the same way about his BMW video ... a lot of complaining over easily removable obstacles that add only 20 or 30 minutes to the job.
Wizard that's a secondary timing chain that runs the pump and the balance shafts. If it slips it wont affect the engine timing, but may not be as smooth as before the service. The tensioner bracket for that chain is prone to breaking also.
The studs for that convertor like to strip the threads also, so you got lucky. Usually have to cut them and replace the studs.
Having done this and the timing on a 2.4 a few times, I'd say you could probably ask for more than $1k and sleep just fine at night.
The water pump on my 2009 Ford Taurus with 247,000 miles was $1800 but I had the car for 8 years very reliable only 2 issue was water pump and rack and pinion
2012 Ford Escape XLT with 2.5. To replace the heater core or AC evaporator you have to remove the dashboard. Crazy engineering.
2 options for this job.. use the tool or breakdown the timing system, if it pays 4hrs good luck ! Done one and luckily the customer approved the timing job as well
If you’re 40 years old and you drive a BMW and mummy has to pay for the repair bill you need to go back down to her basement you’re not ready to be on your own LOL
Wow.... I just purchased a Cloyes Timing Chain Kit with waterpump and replaced it all over the weekend. It was on a 2008 Saturn Vue 2.4 with is basically the same car. Wasn't difficult at all, and I'm not a mechanic or anything. Used a small Kobalt tool kit, torque wrench.
since when does changing a water pump throwing a engine out of time? I don't know how about millions of cars with a timing belt that runs the water pump.
Remember the days where you did your own water pump on 1960s-1988 Chevy 350 Water pump had 4 bolts and in front of engine. I replaced it in 1.5 hrs and drove to St. Louis from SW burb Chicago...replaced like 4 in lifetime easy!!!!!
Did that same type of work on my daughter's 03 saturn ion it took about 6hrs including changing the thermostat,shop gave me an estimate for $500. Thank God I don't have to mess with the exhaust system just like the wizard is doing here, yup might as well be a bmw, had one of those too.
2016 Equinox. 112,000 miles. Replaced cam solenoids. Water pump leaked. $371 to replace water pump. Then $8000 to replace motor. I was told that it was standard practice to replace the timing chain when replacing the water pump. That wasn't done.
What happens if the water pump locked up? Does that mean bye bye engine
Yep.
Yes, if it’s an interference engine.
Now a 2.5 ecotec’s water pump is the easiest to change. It’s on the complete outside of the engine. I also just did the timing chain myself and it was a pretty easy. I have a couple electrical quirks but engine transmission wise very happy with how easy it is to work on it.
GM hasn't made a halfway decent engine for their cars since they discontinued the 3800. I wouldn't buy anything from GM these days, even their newer LS are sketchy.
This is actually an Opel and not really a problem if you know what you are doing.
I agree displacement on demand = busted lifters in the oil pan.
Just wait untill the c8 start needing clutches. Your going to get Ferrari money for working on chevys. And the headaches that go with that.😂
The newer 3.6 isn’t THAT bad. Just change the oil religiously
5.3, 6.0 LS excellent I have over 300k on trucks vans
Gm has been using that style pump since the 90s on the quad4 and the 2.4twincam
My 2002 Honda Accord has a similar setup although it uses a rubber timing belt rather than a chain to drive the camshaft. It requires doing a complete timing belt job to replace the water pump. Mine failed suddenly and left me stranded fortunately where I could get a bus to take me back home but it still cost me over $1k to get it fixed.
Stay away from this GM junk!!! Scotty and the Wizard warned us!
There's the scotty comment. LoL
bUY a toYOtA!!!! lol scotty and his one track mind
@@Evil12monks LOL
@@AlvinBrinson he ain’t wrong!!
Iv never had to pull the exhaust off to do these water pumps. Pull the coolant temp sensor off and thermostat housing , pull the tube out , put the chain hold tool on ,then 2 bolts in front and 2 bolts in rear of pump . A tip is to use a longer bolt to align the water pump through the sprocket .
Dam, at least GM gives you an access cover, you don't have to pull the whole timing cover off🤣.
DIY! Dealers wanted $3k to replace timing belt on VW Pissant. Independents wanted $2.5k.
I bought a quality kit, new water pump, gasket thermostat, belt and cam/crank locking tools for $3-400ish. Very labor intensive, but driveway doable.
6:33 He sounds like a teacher lecturing a class😂
z-24 Cavalier was expensive if I remember!
Had a 1998 2.4L cavalier same thing. Water pump in same place. Only improvement over 20 years is they put an access plate in front. Back then had to redo complete timing chain for the water pump. Crazy stuff
Yeah I remember the Beretta being a nightmare or was it the Lumina/Z 28
@@jrb8303 Mine had the 2.2 in it. Much better designed engine. I also had an 89 z24 as well. Thing had over 300k on it and I ended up wrecking it before it ever broke. They just don't make them like that anymore.
I lived in Ingersol very near the Camy Plant & heard that the engines were order from China.
My wife’s from Ingersol and the family farm is west of the plant on that road.
Wish I knew this when I bought a 2011 chevy traverse...same thing, the dealer shop wanted 8,000 for the rear motor mount, leak near oil pan, so the oil pan suppose to be bad, one strut, and suppose timing chain...keep up with the good content 👍
"The General" at their best. In my experience, GM engineering had been overrated for a long time.
Designers of some of the most cost efficient V-8 engines and durable transmissions. Why GM transmissions were even used in Rolls Royce and Bentley vehicles (4L80e). I'm not the biggest fan of GM, but they have made some decent cars and trucks over the years.
@@phillipvansickle4220 and they still went spectacularly bust in 2008. Since 1972 they went from 50% market share to 17% today.
GM is really hit and miss. It’s kinda shocking that the same company that made the LS also dropped this 💩.
@@phillipvansickle4220 had a GM transmission in my old BMW 328i, pure junk. I'd take a ZF transmission over a GM one any day.
@@phillipvansickle4220 actually RR considered the TH-350 and 400 to be the worlds best automatic transmission. They never used the 4L80 cause RR was building their own transmissions prior to being sold to BMW and now they use BMW parts like all the order German cars
Don't look too close at the water pump on the Ford 3.5 V6 or the Honda V6 (I think the 3 liter?) they both have timing-chain driven waterpumps. The Ford engine in particular, when the water pump develops a leak, it drips into the oil pan.
I did a water pump on a vehicle with a similar engine (Saturn Ion) it wasn't that bad on that car, it was easier to reach the front of the engine.
I would of recommended the owner call the Dave Ramsey
show for advice.
Infinity wanted over 1,600 do a water pump on my sons Infinity G35s. The pump was $140 at Infinity, rest was labor. I did it myself
Burning oil is good because you are constantly circulating new oil into the enginge as long as keep on top of it thats the thing
Looks easier than the older version of the engine. They were driven directly off the timing chain. No gear to un bolt
- Since when does changing a water pump risk throwing the entire engine out of time and possibly damaging the engine?
- On every German car made from at least 1998 and forward on. 🤪
Welcome to European way of designing engines. 😂👍
I just did a water pump on a 2002 e46 and it's just belt driven, no messing with any timing, and the easiest bleeding procedure ever.
; / I would say that isn't the case on an e39 BMW and many more from the time period.
What that chain drives is the counter balancer for the crankshaft.
The water pump does bolt to a sprocket,but not on the timing chain. it bolts to a sprocket on the balance shafts chain. did many of these, replaced many timing chains and balance shaft chains.
Next up on Hoovie's Garage: I just bought the cheapest Chevy Equinox in America!
This is why he’s called the wizard.
At least there's a tool you can use to hold the sprocket. On the infamous chrysler 2.7, no tool, no access door, you had to remove the upper intake, the valve covers, the timing cover, and the timing chain. THEN you could change the water pump. Not to mention the fact that if the customer waited too long, the pump sprocket would become loose and jump the timing (or worse), and also dump a whole lot of antifreeze directly in the engine oil. Same story with the ford 3.5 duratec, the other day I did one and the customer got VERY lucky, the pump bearing was about to seize. I could barely turn it by hand. Good times...
I love this Guy .. please keep keeping it real Sir
What sadistic "engineer" thought this was a good design??
It's the bean counters stuffing old off the shelf parts into whatever they can.
An engineer who's wife cheated on him with a mechanic.
They can make the engine shorter, still stupid.
@@kevinthomas895 haha good one
An imagineer...
I completely agree Mr. Wizard, do not buy a BMW unless you have the ability to do the repairs yourself. I owned an ‘01 540 and kept this car going until it needed timing chain guides. That’s a tough job, so I gave the car away. Now I own a ‘13 535i. At 80K, I’m doing well and only replaced the oil filter housing gaskets and the valve cover gasket. The water pump will fail next, but I’m prepared. Keep good oil in these things and follow the preventative maintenance and you will love these cars.
That's the way it is on any of the 2.2 and 2.4 L ecotec 4 cylinder engines. From 2005 onwards at least. My Pontiac G5 and Cobalt are the same way and it sucks.
My mom had a 2011 Lincoln SUV. I think it was the mkt. Whatever it was it was the Ford flex but the Lincoln version and the car ran great. She put 160 thousand miles with little problems until the water pump gave out. The job was 3000 dollars! Because ford had the bright idea of making the water pump chain driven and the make matters worse the engine had to be removed to do it! Ill never forget my mom calling me crying wondering what shes gonna do.
Thank you for this video, I have a 2008 Saturn with this same engine and 135,000 miles. I am going to trade it in as soon as possible..
Which vehicle are you planning to buy next?
Old hondas (and others) having that bad boy running off the timing belt. Get in that argument with the client about changing the water pump at his 60,000 mile belt change. Cant remember who it was, but a few of them where clearance motors and made me cringe when they didn't want to do the $30 water pump
Someone (Ford?) has a wp that's completely internal and chain driven. So. When it fails the coolant leaks right into the crankcase and often destroys the engine.
For a daily driver, electric makes a lot of sense , I imagine their going to stick it to us for electronic controller gizmos
Brembos new braking system is called Synergy .
That’s insane! I’ll stick with my 2008 Honda CR-V exl with 172k miles and no issues
I drive a semi and took a detour off 135 the other day while on my way to Texas just to see your Shop. Like going to Mecca. Lol. It was a Saturday so unfortunately i didn't get to say hi. But hi!
The positive crankcase ventilation systems on the 2.4L engine
Oh God No! No! No! Noooooo!
Frickin' Equinox, crush them to cubes, all of them! Recycle them to fridges!
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Stop encouraging GM by buying these pieces of junk!
My sister just bought a 2020 acadia 🙄. It's done less than 10000kms and it's already had brake issues, something to do with the computer not being calibrated properly.
That sucks, too bad she bought one of those instead of a Toyota or Lexus. I've learned a lot by watching Scotty Kilmer and the Car Wizard and I tell people I would NEVER buy a GM product or an FCA product...unless it was a Ferrari of course! 😁😎
Keep up the great content, add the water pump on a tundra too. I heard it’s crazy expensive job
*Laugh in Ford 3.5L
And Chrysler 2.7L.
1400. MINIMUM of ford 3.5/3.7
@@JDMHaze $800 if you know a guy, since the 3.7L isn't a disaster like the 3.5L to get to. Plus another $500 to fix the falling apart radiator and hoses at the same time, since they eventually all slit/clog up after about ten years. Another $600 or so for the heater core, since the dash comes out on one piece. I bet you'd come in at $4-5K easy on a BMW to replace the entire cooling system. $2K every ten years is why I love my Mustang. You can replace entire sections of the car for almost nothing. Versus removing half the car to replace a clutch...
@@plektosgaming longitudinal engine helps lol
already knew from when he said 2.4 Ecotec that the water pump was driven by the chain cause i have a 2005 chevrolet classic with the 2.2 basically the same motor but without vvt but nonetheless i'll sell my car if the water pump goes
Remembering the time we had to drive the Equinox that barely ran from the buy here pay here repo pen to the shop across town, stalled at a redlight as it turned green and held up rush hour traffic behind us, we waited on the side of the road for an hour before it decided to start again, lovely cars
The stories about BMW owners really hits home. Just a few weeks back we had a sweet old lady bring her grandson's 3 series in. He'd just bought it, despite her stern warnings, and he spent all the money he had on the purchase. Anyway, of course it had oil leaks galore, totally failed front shocks, every tyre was a different size, plus a few more issues...
The stupid kid then blames his grandma for letting him buy it, then makes her pay for the repairs!! Never met the kid but someone needs to slap some sense in to him....
Told him to pay for it himself? Such entitlement...
Some years ago we almost bought a GMC Terrain. We were warned off of it's purchase by a trusted mechanic. I am glad we listened to him.
Just depends on the vehicle every brand has lemons.. My wife has drove our terrain for 5 years no issues 80k~ miles EDIT I did replace purge valve solenoid once 20$ did it myself in 30 min in 0 degree weather!
@@MrHadwiger 80k isn’t anything amazing. The 100k to 200k is the real test. If she hits 250-300k then that was a good car. Or if she ever sacrifices some or all of herself in accident to keep your family safe.
10-20 years ago Chevys were great cars. Now they're junk. Just buy a Toyota or a Honda.
194K on my 2010 Equinox AWD with the 2.4. Bought it new and I can’t remember any major issues. Wiper linkage had to be replaced 2x is all that comes to mind.
@@1337penguinman I call bullshit on that too. Everything Chevy made in the 2000s wouldn't look out of place rotting in a trailer park. Should have gone straight to the crusher from the factory and saved people time, money and headache. Honda & Toyota you're right though.
At this point in my life, I've come to realize that an honest mechanic is worth what he charges.
I moved and went to a local one and asked for maintenance and he told me to get lost- I didnt need it yet come back in 30k miles. I was over the moon.
I am not poor by any means but do my own work because of the mechanics that have screwed up my vehicles. I would love to find a good mechanic and pay what they are worth.
@@gregeoryl Mechanics also pick & choose which customers vehicle they'll follow the maint. schedule to a T. Other ppl like welfare queens, poor ppl, etc they'll spot serious problems & not say anything & let those customers vehicles have catastrophic failures. Or outright break all sorts of lines, hoses, sensors etc to drive up reassembly costs.
Sucker.