Update on ARRMA INFRACTION Thermal Shutdown and What That Means
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
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After experiencing short run times with the ARRMA Infraction and not fully know what was causing it, I took the time to do a test to see if I could replicate it again when I had a temp gun and LiPo checker available. I turned off the fans so that it would be as close to what I'd been experiencing and drove it how I have been. In about 3.5 minutes it happened and I was able to verify the ESC code and check the temps.
This video is not a critique of the RC, but rather to show how hot it will get if you stay on constant throttle and do too many burnouts which really tax the ESC.
This truck is my favorite on-road car I've driven and is currently one of my top 5 that I own. I want to pull it out all the time and run it. So you will be seeing a lot more of it. 😂
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I can't wait to get mine. All this great info and footage Tony, keep it coming.
Ready Set RC yeah man. They tear it up! Such a great rig
We experienced the same issue when we had our hands on a demo for our first run vid. Before we even ran it we noticed there was ZERO room under that body for natural air flow and were expecting it.
We were NOT expecting it to cut off as frequently as it did tho. We couldn't tell if it was the batteries or ESC since we didn't have a temp gun or battery checker that day.
Glad your actually trouble shooting it and showing the issue. We only had the demo for a few hours so your making my life much easier for when I get my own. Lol
Cheers!
Yeah, I think we all saw the burnouts and smoking tires and were overdoing it. 😂 When I ease up and do more straight driving, it definitely changes the temps. It's a very capable car. Just like any...we just need to watch how we drive because it does affect motor temps. I never ran my Losi Ten-SCTE for longer then 5-6 minutes at high speeds. It was geared to race and would get hot bashing it for too long
I ordered mine recently, I can’t wait to receive it. I appreciate the videos, they keep me occupied while I wait, lol.
Wow! That truck is flippin awesome!! Better have deep pockets to keep tires on that rig. Crazy how fast they wear out. Thanks for sharing some info on it!!!
Im just getting back into rc after almost 10 a year break. I was going to jump back in to traxxas cause that was all the rage back then. I saw people raving about arrma and then I saw this mamajamma lollol I've had it two months but still haven't run it, I immediately purchased a new radio/receiver, esc, motor and some ntf fans, I installed everything but the fans. Should be ripping up some hoons in about a week or so. Yours was one of the first infraction videos I saw and I was hooked on that resto-mod design!
I'm glad you got it all figured out
Good informative video. My infraction overheat 2 times and my ESC died on the second thermal shut down. Now i cut airwends into the body 2 in the rear sides and the entire front grill and the sides of the front bumper. I'm about to put a Hobbywing max 6 in it and curious how it performs. Can't wait to test it out and see what temps i get with my airwends in the body.
When rich and I were doing the demo run on the infraction we found that there is literally almost no air flow under that body. Also the heat of that motor is going to dissipate through the motor wires. If a vent was somehow implemented into that body so the fans were actually able to pull fresh air into the esc
Can you in the future when doing temps and speed can you put the comparison up for km/h and degC for us Aussies that watch your channel .
Keep up the great work on your content.
I can try to do that.
Excellent video, my friend.
😊 😎 👍
I can not wait to receive it.Thank you my friend. Yvan 😊
Good video. Temps look they dropped around 40F. Looking at twin fans now for arrma fireteam 6s.
ARRMA is killing it 👍
Nice runs! That truck is ridiculous! You’re making good commercials for it 😀
Cheers!
154 degrees at the rear tires. That’s stellar man. 👊😀
hence the crazy wear. Adjust the punch really took a toll on those tires. They are more worn on the rear after 2 runs then the others were from multiple runs.
CCxRC lol yeah that’s crazy fast but fun always. 👊😀
I've broken so many things after I said "1 more" 😂
oh man...ain't that the truth. Same here. I laughed when I heard it in the edit.
Hahaha that's so true.
I love the fact that ARRMA is LITERALLY smoking it.💪💪💪
Yes. I'm ready for a new set of these sweet tires
Nothing worse than a new gadget acting Normal😎💯🤣🤣
Super informative video for a rookie like me and anyone else honestly. I think we have the same temp gun. 😂. I think that my Granite BLX also had a thermal shut down yesterday, but it was like 20 minutes after almost non stop full speed running on dirt and grass. I noticed that my ESC also had the flashing green light. It didn't shut down completely, but it slowed down. I was done by then anyways. Motor was at like 186 F. I'm assuming that's too high right? Thanks!
Great test. Now we know what it is. 👍
Great video and great truck 👍🏻👍🏻 keeping coming Big Dawg 👊🏻👍🏻
Thanks for sharing Tony,,, and giving us some good info brother,,, That's what is all about sharing the info,,so we can take advantage of it ,,if we rub through the same problems,,,Good stuff brother
Do you have a video showing how to make those ducts in the hood?
Do you know if the ESC temps stay down with the body shell off? Curious if anyone has tried that.
Hello bro , what configuration do you have in the diff? I mean the diff oil front-center-Rear i am new in this and i just got this car 😅
This video is absolutely perfect I had the same problems where did u get the fans??
Awesome video,great info and a sweet truck.
Thinking of buying one, when it came out of the box, did it need adjustment for riding straight?
Won't be surprised if these and any of the newer edition arrma esc's don't shut down at the proper esc temperature. Temps can spike super fast at any givn moment. Still like to go over some older footage to refresh the memory.
Hey bud, does the esc on this motor beep at start up 🤔, glad uve sorted this out, major pain to be guessing so
I’m having the same issues with mine.. please keep us updated! What pinion are you thinking of running?
Probably will go down a few teeth in the pinion. However, I haven’t been having the issue as I just take it easier on it. I do some hard bashing and then back down for a bit. Just like my race trucks that I know I shouldn’t go hard with for more then 6-8 minutes. Even then I have to run it like it’s on a track and not just wide open all the time.
Venom Lipos are garbage....I'm suspecting these are 25c/50c rated? To do a proper test, use some 100+C rated lipos to see it's full potential. Great video man, that's a sick truck....And please stop unplugging wires with one hand lol that just kills me hahahaha cheers dude Big Like man :)
When will you come out for sale in Spain and how much will it cost?
Sorry for rambling , too hot outside to play😃
If you want to Hoon, tape your tires with electrical tape. It's the oldest trick in the book and it will preserve your expensive tires. Plus they'll keep your temps cool since there's zero resistance. 🤙 Nice vids
I think the tape will only last all of 10 seconds with this beast haha. Just need to order some spare wheels/tyres to burn. Hooning ain't cheap :D
@@tmmtmm nah, just keep applying tape. The stuff is pretty durable and WAY cheaper then tires. I'm speaking from experience. This is $1 tape vs $100 tires.
So what pinion you suggest for drifting and having fun
I went down to a 16T for street bashing
Did it cut off on hard bashing with 16t
Try the GRP belted radial's they are on 17mm wheel nuts.
I have the GRP slicks medium belted waiting to go on
Looks like a awesome truck to drive 👍
What other tires would you recommend that might hold up? And i ordered my fans for it! But i love mine! Thanks for the information and a great video!
I'm not the guy to recommend tires for onroad cars. I'm waiting for more of the DBOOTS becuase they handle great....just don't burnout too much :) I was told GRP. I bought the GRP GT - TO2 S5 Slick Belted tires (medium hardness). Going to try them next.
It looks like the dboots hold up at speed better than the grps, and handle better likely due to a softer compound.
@@brycecourtneymusic sweet! Will check them out! I just dont want to keep spending money on tires that cant hold up! I want something with grip and longevity! This truck rocks! But needs bettter traction so you can get more out of her! Its a mean machine!lol! And again thanks for the advice!
@@randyseaver8319 the dboots are the stocks, grps come in different compounds harder compound means less grip but more longevity, and vice versa.
@@brycecourtneymusic cool! Thanks for the info! This my first street r.c. ! I normally buy the off road bashers but this one looked like too much fun to pass up! Just when you think you know a litte about r.c.' s you realize you still dont know no Jack! Lol! Still so much to learn! Thanks for your time and info! It really helps!
Great vid Tony, I agree it definitely heats it up more when you bash it the way you do especially compared to just doing a couple simple speeds. Speaking of speed runs, have you tried the included optional pinion? I watched the Amain Infraction vid earlier and they were using the included optional pinion and they managed to hit 80mph even with it. I know it's not for bashing but may be interesting to see just for a quick speed test vid to see what you can get out of her with that other pinion. I'd love to see your reaction of hitting like 70-75mph with that bad boy!🤘😎🤘
The speed pinion went on yesterday 😁 I let the blue thread locker harden overnight. Plan to try it today
One more question ton, i was watching you bash the losi i too own 5t older one. i put 36cc and your might be faster its definitely running great i had mine running really fast with cheap tuned pipe and venturi on carb but too loud for the neighbors . plus i think leaving gas in carb messed up the diaphram try run it out if going sit the ethanol is horrible. How do you like the arrmas after playing with 5t vise versa i think both have there places litterly i always liked nitro gas better just came down to money places to play good nitro kit your over a g and been that way for 20 years actually more practical now but 5th scale once price came down was homerun for me compared to nitro
I love the 5ive-T. Everyone says get a pipe, but it would drive the neighbors crazy and I like running in my backyard...maybe if I only raced it...I really am liking the Arrmas I've driven. Totally different scale and feel. I'm looking at getting a Typhon as my next basher
Get an wild turbo fan on esc an motor on with external battery..trust me
I heard they are crazy. Just seems like overkill for use as a street basher.
They make a tire temp gauge too for racing so can adjust toe and camber irrelevant for rc i guess you be able tell how much of front tires meeting the ground on the turns
What fans are you using for the motor?
I have a video on them. I think they are hot racing
Are the motor fans easy to install?
They were very easy. I have a video showing it. You do need to get the JR to JST Y-Split cable (that doesn't come with it, but IMHO should come with it)
Great informative video 👍
What pinion did you have @ the start of this?
The stock 18T pinion that comes on it. That's all I've run so far. Have a video coming with the 27T speed pinion
Great video
Think its awesome T, love the smokin Tyres, Great speed, am having a speed run day, My JLB Cheetah 3speed should do a 100 kmh if I can on 4s 😁 fantastic video mate 👍😁👍
perhaps bigger ESC ?
Nice run did you turn up you break punch
Sorry I know could you show how to set the breaks on a video bro thanks
👍 O man You should listen to that Shen RC guy he's pretty good with this RC stuff 😜
😂 Well Played Steve
It’s a low end 8th scale brushless system with high gearing... sadly that’s what happens.
So is the traxxas xo-1 better quality then?
Oh virgina forget bout it , tony i took my kids there once by a waterpark , we were like lobsters wearing sunblock too i never experienced heat like that and after watchin yt with arrmas i wondering how in California guys gearing rigs up arrmas but on gravel sending in the air usually off the throttle .tony remember arrma European where cool all time and heat rises so if your on the hot ground with a low rider
Its 104 in Texas right now feel like 109. Just bought my infraction today but have not run it yet. Oh my I might be in for a suprise. This might end up being a fall/winter driving truck.
Rig is awsome!👍
Tony i just got new xt 90 plugs i dont know how many more rcs going buy , i like to bash daily easier keep 1 or 2 rigs going and gets expensive but question is you been hacking plugs sticking with one or do you use multiple my two new arrmas are ic5 but i need batteries anyway and i soldered adapters to use any battery any rig just seems wrong cut new wires off brand new rig 😄 next question you like new spectrum rtr remote ? Even with plastic wheel hows compare to tactic im ready buy futaba just arrma making me broke
I've been going with EC5, so I have to solder them on all my batteries. It's a pain, but so many cars coming from Horizon that their system makes sense. :) I like that the new Spektrum has a throttle limit switch for me to hand the controller to my kids and only let them have reduced power. I like the feel of the tactic, but performance wise they seem similar. I use Shen RCs rubber wheel grips on my transmitters. Cheap way to get a consistent feel
what is causing the over heating is the excessive rpms doing all those donuts
So 190° temp on he outside of the esc means those mosfest are cook'n at least 200° probably 220° which technically is major danger zone for electronics. That's not a good temp to he running at 4sure
...or fit external Cap Packs 😎
I have never used those before, but I’ve heard that is the next step for something like this.
@@CCxRC Quite easy to fit..just solder...or Soder as you guys say 😅 onto the esc battery cables as close to the esc as possible 👍
Ry Cullen RC more info im listening!?
Nice neighborhood haha
So, the lesson to be learned here is that motor cooling fans should be used?
And don’t do unending burnouts. 😂
Holy crap 180 is waayyyyyy too hot on the motor
You can gear it down but it just lasts a little while longer,,, your problem is you running a 1/8 scale system inside of a 1:6 scale car so I don't care what you do is going to get hot,, especially in the summer you'll get way more DriveTime in the winter,,, upgrade the motor 2 under 1600 Kv that should keep the ESC much cooler
Turn the punch down too
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NC 👍.. keep it Cool. COOL! CHECK IT!! ...TIMP GUN.. 👌 ..
Maybe contact Arrma and get the esc replaced.
Thermal Shutdown is in place to protect the ESC. It’s doing what it should in that case. I was just demanding too much from it.
So turn up the punch to get the temps under control? LMAO MORE POWER
JLP it was driving style for less temp. I was just going too speed
Uk i was thinking yes moving air would be good but talking about hot air and not moving fast wont do much , thats why those fans you have work good bc move so fast and like shen rc was saying you may have compromised the motor getting it over 200 on first few runs if thats the case send that sucker back im sure arrma will honor even lil your fault you did it advertising basically . try a motor esc out of one other arrmas just watch temps close as if it were a nitro
That's not good and don't look right 189 deg on the motor way way to hot! I think the motor may have gone bad the rotor weakened from to much heat will then cause the esc to try and give it more amperage to make it work properly then your ESC will run much hotter? I think arrma may have set this truck up wrong out of the box with much to large of a pinion gear so when guy's like you kind of just bash around and drive it like a normal RC and not just a quick speed run I think people may be blowing there motors like I stated above... To be honest if anyone gets one of these I would drop a crap load of teeth down on the pinion gear size. just looks like a classic case of over gearing the RC and components start failing, If people start complaining about problems I bet arrma will be using a much smaller pinion gear in later releases of these new cars.
Thats what i was thinking shen , and hoping tony just got defective motor , but more likley he was excitedly at festival and cooked motor they are durable so feels sounds like your right on problem is he already done the damage
I think the second run showed that normal running had the temps right in the range you'd want. The burnouts are probably the biggest culprit in the temps. IMHO
@@CCxRC exactly spinning tires uses alot of torque👍great vid
@@paulclancy2404 Even though my second run had much lower temps? Motor was in the 150s range and ESC 130s? I'll keep an eye on it.
@@CCxRC Yea but that was with 2 cooling fans in a big heat sink, It should run that cool without the heat sink fan on it. arrma should have had this RC set up with a much smaller pinion gear so they don't run into these heat problems. 👍 Definitely put a smaller pinion gear on it man.
I ran it with a 20c 2s standing on one foot with one eye closed and hit 67mph... just saying
yes...but did you take it off any sweet jumps? That's the real question
this is why Hobbywing is garbage, when you have a thermal shutdown, the esc will not reset, and it's done. I have not had this issue with any castle esc (XL or XLX2). I Did swell up my 9000 batteries with the spektrum 8s, but no shutdown.
360 p?
??? Its uploaded and already viewable as 4k60. Not sure why you are seeing it so low resolution.
@@CCxRC idk, I have a galaxy s9? Wierd, still good video