"we blindly believed you were guilty and disowned you and you were alone for 8 years, but now that we have new evidence, we're sorry... and how dare you be rude to us for not accepting our apology and immediately embracing us as family!" They're a special kind of stupid.
@@alexapatexa Nah, rest of the family believed without evidence. Not to mention no history of anything remotely close to that from OP. The only one who did nothing wrong is OP.
The brother beat him up, knowing that op isn’t at fault. Henry went out with two other women in order to get with Jenny. Henry needs to be destroyed and taken to court
@@ChudDin I agree, but he finally got his life together and has a job, loyal wife, a baby otw, and a good friend circle. With the past threat of prison, do you think he'd actually want that on his record?
I hate these stories because they remind me of people who use SA as a weapon to destroy someone's life. No morals, no qualms and no remorse. Just pure evil. Then plus the people who believe it without questions are even worse, especially those who are close yet they choose not to hear their friend/brother/husband/son/father denial.
It's even worse. Because of stories like this real victims of SA are often not believed and accused of lying. Henry AND Amanda need to go to jail for this. Imagine if OP actually went with his thoughts and actually k*lled himself. They'd have his blood on their hands.
Not to mention that it partially hinders actual victims of SA from coming forward and reporting it. Giving them a bad name and less credibility. People who weaponize SA are scum of the earth
It also hurts the real victims of SA. Every time someone does this it becomes more and more difficult for real victims to be believed. It used to be that the people who came forward were believed because "who would lie about something like that?", but now scrutiny is needed. Police have to determine if the alleged victim has any evidence. To that end it makes sense why the police didn't arrest him. The screenshots could have been anyone. I'm not personally familiar with that app, but if it's anything like Discord where the name you see isn't a username but rather a nickname there's absolutely no evidence to be had in that. The police probably used the report to get access to logs and with the logs probably determined that the evidence presented was false and then didn't go any further with it, but in that case why didn't the police notify anyone of such a finding? Or bring in the person behind the accusation for questioning? Now, I have mixed feelings about the cases where an accusation is recanted because in the present climate without a confession a life cannot begin to heal and I wouldn't want to discourage such behavior, and it does seem likely that she held back on confessing because she feared the consequences, but there should be some consequences for doing something like this. Unfortunately, even people who are caught lying rarely see more than a month of jail time and that's not much of a deterrant.
@@Elliandr" It used to be that the people who came forward were believed because "who would lie about something like that?"," If you think ANY accusation of SA should be blindly believed, you're the kind of person who ends up enabling malicious false accusations. Scrutiny was ALWAYS needed, just like any crime, whether or not false accusations exist.
I fucking hate those feminists and others who push the victims should be believed no matter what crap, they have no idea the effect it has in someone who is being falsely accused, like it makes sense that nobody should take any sides till the full story comes out. I almost got falsely accused of SA by my ex but luckily I’m around people who don’t just blindly believe that crap and questioned her she couldn’t keep up with the lies and quickly admitted I did nothing.
A huge, non-tactical, fifty-megaton dirty bomb nuke. Run, OP, find decent people in your life. Same happened to me, but I got slightly lucky. It was from a cousin who lied constantly about everything, so the fallout was...controllable. Somewhat. And in response to him trying to get out of a DUI charge where he didn't want to have his urine tested weekly. My own mother questioned me (she now wonders why I radiantly don't give a crap about her any longer). His parents instantly believed him until they needed stuff from me and can't seem to figure out why the word "No" is a knee-jerk reaction. The cousin offed himself when he went off his psych meds and figured more booze and drugs would do just as well. I do confess to sitting in the back of the funeral and thoroughly enjoying it. I am not a perfect person. My family's trash. Rich trash, but trash.
I wouldn't call it a dodge mate, your SO may be on your side in random accusations but when you have a SA case with visual proof damn right most of us would also jump to conclusion, the nuke that was dodged is from the bf of amanda
Family after so long: "we're disappointed how you reacted" Me if I were OP: "Well I'm disappointed that I was falsely accused of SA, my wife divorcing me and taking our children away, lost my job my friends, disowned by my very family for 8 years (I.E YOU), sending me into a depression where I thought about ending myself on a daily basis while I clutched onto the extremely few things I had going for me in my life...but YEAH your feelings of disappointment is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than mine"
Sue him for fraud, assault, and defamation. Under a plea deal get the lady to testify against him. You have proof via the layer's recordings more then enough to ruin him forever. tell the parents you have none, and that you hope they rot alone without knowing your daughter. Jenny is useless, ignore her unless it involves your daughters.
Talk to the lawyer about suing the parents. Do NOT settle with a plea, and if they are boomers that read the local newspaper, make sure an article ends up there. They created this problem with the older son, they should reap what they have sown.
Thats the worst part for me. That was your husband. The way tthe story. Is wrroten though it sounds like he might be from some developing country though so maybe they didnt understand pictures could be faked.
@@Distress.He did say that the law favors women so he is probably from North America or somewhere in europe though. Idk any developing countries that favor women lmao
The people in the best position to do that are Jenny in the divorce and the ExParents (great term that OP came up with) by disowning him in turn. As stated in the story they are already using their funds to keep his head above water. That would hurt him hard. As for suing him? He's broke. Blood from a stone.
There is an update in the story: Summary - He got in touch with his parents and made boundaries clear. Parents tried to get him to take care of them and meet his kid (Kim had his son by then) but he put up boundaries and cut them off when they crossed it. Mom cried and he let her have it. He got his brother's number, spoke to him, but his brother just laughed at him. His brother is now a bum and a leech with no job, only alive because the parents still give him an allowance
The parents want the op to take care of them? Let's check out the list here. The parents did not listen to him and kicked him out, lost his job and his kids. He was shauned by his friends, and he almost attempted suicide. The audacity to ask him if they could move in with him, no wonder his brother turned out messed up. Don't get me started on op's brother he is just pure evil and he just laughed at him. If I were op, I would've said keep laughing while being homeless and leeching off from mom and dad. You got no one that cares for you and your gonna stay single for the rest of your life due to your attitude, manipulation, and lying. Oh and I'll see you in court for defamation, and assault from when he was getting kicked out the house.
People in the comments: "WHY IS HE CONFUSED, HE SHOULD DESTROY HIS BROTHER" It's because he's a genuinely kind person. The only reason he's being this cold in the first place is because of all that was done to him. The fact that he can go through all of this and still speak civilly with not just his ex, but the woman who literally FRAMED him, AND go on a successful honeymoon, and keep it together the whole time, is a testament to his character. Edit: Wow, didn't know you all were pissed off enough to be breaking out scripture. Calm down, for goodness sake.
I can't even begin to imagine how heartbreaking that must be. To be ripped away from your life and family to the point your children don't even know who you are, and the one they call "daddy" is the very man who ruined your life. I don't even know what I'd do if that were me
I'm feeling second hand rage against jenny. How dare she. Honestly sitting here in tears because of what happened to this dude. So glad he got his happy ending with what seems to be a great woman.
@@Cafeallday222Not a good idea. A family member of mine was sexually abused by her stepfather for YEARS and her mother did nothing because she didn't believe her she had that same "you can't tell me anything about my man" mentality and it ruined people's lifes. Just be your own person and use your brain. Dont blindly believe ANYONE, even if you think you know them.
If your family and loved ones believe a random story from a person and believe it without a chance to defend yourself, they Do Not Deserve You at all in return
From the comments I reckon Jenny got involved with that demon after OP and her got divorced due to the SA accusation? Then that's all on her. I don't want to go through the whole video because 3 minutes in I already feel the secondhand heartache. Met a Narcissist once that destroyed my sister's marriage because of their jealousy and desire to monopolise and manipulate people... so I know that OP's brother is such a Narcissist and highly probably a Sociopath as well.
kim and dereck are the goat! a true asian and a true friend! you need nothing else!~ im glad you where able to stand up again and the person you are today!
@@sydneyps If I would find out that my GF/fiance had wrongfully accused another guy of rape, I would also run as fast as I can. I don't know if I would have thought in that situation about this other guy. So I see in Mark really an guardian angel for the OP. And I can't blame him for dumping such a piece of work.
This guy should definitely charge Henry, Amanda told him about how Henry had planned all that out, and faked evidence. That shit was straight up intentional, and pre-meditated. Henry should be forced to pay OP for his loss of wages from losing his job, + pain and suffering for losing his family, and likely having severe depression.
From the sounds of it Henry is a failure without pot to p155 in. What would be the point of a law suit? The POS could not cover legal costs let alone damages. All it would do is create a lot of drama. OP has found some peace in his new life. Leave the people who disowned him to their own guilt and turmoil. It is understandable that OP didn't want the problem 8 years ago but if he had rolled the dice and gone to the police himself this would have forced Amanda to perjure herself and risk prison. She might have cracked then. If she filed a false complaint then maybe he could have turned up evidence (security camera footage or similar) from the club carpark to exonerate him. Then he might have had Amanda and Henry on the hook for perjury or filing a false report. Even if they got to serve some time (probably not) it is unlikely that they would have suffered for 8 years but they would have criminal records. On the other hand OP may have a case against his former employer for forcing him out based on pretty much nothing. Could be a payday there.
@@McAnik-uo1ol re the old employer: I don't think so, but there might be a case there. A lot of legal recourse goes out the window when you "voluntarily" quit. He'd basically need to prove that it was a form of constructive dismissal. Plus after 8 years it might be past the statute of limitations, for a lot of employment laws those have fairly short statutes of limitations, like 2-5 years. But yeah, while in a mostly fair world this never would have happened, and in a slightly less fair world Henry would be paying him enough to retire, the fact is that you can't get blood from a stone.
Amanda honestly is the worst.....helping pos Henry destroy an innocent guy just cause she had a crush and in the end henry just wanted to bone guys wife.....
OP should definitely go full defamation suit. What happens to Henry's daughter is none of his concern and not his responsibility, if Henry loses everything the daughter will still have Jenny and while it will suck to not have a dad its no worse than what OP's daughters went through. As for the parents, they are strangers to OP now and they don't deserve to have OP as a son after everything.
Really? Think who the dad is in this situation. The kid would do better without this kind of dad in her life. Jesus Christ, could you imagine the damage this girl could do if she was raised by him and took after him?
This story just filled me with rage like how fucked up do you have to be to first form a plan to break up your brothers marriage just because you loved his wife and then in the process have your own brother excommunicated from the family and frame him as doing a sexual assault its so fucked up hes a horrible person
Narcisssists 101. And he's also most probably Sociopathic (no remorse, no guilt, no sense of morality, no bottom line in committing something law-breaking, charming and manipulative; like a serial killer).
The ex wife is a special kind of mentally incapacitated. She believed random people over her own husband just because she saw a few (probably badly photoshopped) pictures of “evidence.” I’ll never understand how people believe rumours without question and then proceed to go on a witch hunt. Then his family has the audacity to act like they were also the victims. I guess critical thinking is a dying trait. No one is entitled to forgiveness either. The ex wife getting together with his brother of all people is also disgusting and suspicious. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had been flirting/cheating.
Yeah, Jenny really did come across as a $lu+ in this story. Even if she didn't cheat with his *brother* the entire time they were dating / married / together, before the divorce, she did sleep with Henry, give birth to Henry's baby & end up marrying Henry. Her Ex's *brother* ... so yeah, she comes across as a $lu+.
@@spaghettiupseti9990it was specifically his WhatsApp account, which is technically "social media" I guess but also what a lot of people use as their texting app. Basically made it look real by using the new number, setting that phone number as a contact under OPs name and with the same pic he uses for the app, the app probably wouldn't show the number, so it likely looked really convincing, but like 5 minutes of critical thought should show the holes in the logic
Good on Amanda's bf: He heard the confession from her, and instead of simply standing by, he made her tell the truth to OP and everyone else which lead to them being proven innocent. As for the "brother" take him to court. He was willing to destroy your life with a lie in order to steal your spouse, manipulated the person making those claims, whom he was sleeping with in the first place. He physically assaulted you and got pretty much everyone you knew to excommunicate you from their lives. And in the end he acted like a spoiled rotten child who got the toy and threw it away after. He deserves to get absolutely rail-roaded in court for all the damages he caused and them some.
They literally sat there and watched my guy get the tar beaten out of him by a person that literally set him up. They have the literal audacity to want to talk when they should have eased into it and been on his time. Also couldn’t believe OP questioning if he should go after his brother legally. I would make that man destitute and unable to bounce back. The process of thinking all of that up and implemented damn near perfectly or at least good enough to have no one question things and have kids with his brothers ex is just solid proof of his treacherous nature and disregard for his own kin. Lastly wtf how does know one question things if 1. His previous marriage failed because he was too into Jenny 2. He was causing problems before with being into her Like that’s extremely weird how no one questioned a thing not even OP
It's an easily resolved situation. If the parents want to give a quick and easy proof they love him, they can bankroll the entire thing. No expense on OP's part, parents eat crow and Henry eats shit.
@@MacabreAfterpartyor not since the fabricated message will be found out fast thanks to digital forensics. And it is known that fake screenshots are easy to do
It really pisses me off at how people lie about stuff like SA so that things could go their way without realizing the consequences it leads to. This is also why many people don't believe REAL victims
Like my mom always said, all you need is a handful of true friends and never betray them in turn, this will lead your life to being one worth living. This guy has Kim and Dereck and that has made his life far better than I could have hoped for. Stay strong my man, and for the love of all you deem holy take that piece of shit brother to court and ruin him. However be careful, he might not take this laying down and might try to harm you two girls.
A couple years ago I was falsely accused of pedophillia and lost all of my friends. All of my friends blindly believed the minor who lied even though I had proof that nothing of the sort ever occurred but was dismissed and abandoned. I've often cringed at myself for having dreams about defending my innocence and those old situations but I saw a lot of myself in this guy and his story. I'm really glad that things worked out for him and sometimes wish that the liar in my story would do what Amanda did and admit she lied but somehow I don't think it ever will. It's hard sometimes having gone through that because it feels like you're completely alone and in a way you are, but seeing this story and others who have gone through something similar makes me feel in some fucked up way a lot less isolated, like there are others who know what it's like because they've lived it. Happy for him.
@@BoomboxMasterYT They were just far too angry and emotional to even consider looking at or listening to anything I had to say. I did have a couple friends who were more level headed who heard me out who I'm good with now but the vast majority refuse to speak to me even now. I'd go back and address this whole thing to them but anger turned to hatred and both those things make listening to someone hard.
Shred him. If Henry faces no consequences, he'll pass that kind of behavior on, and his behavior has already influenced OP's children. They need to see that actions have consequences.
As an older brother it drives me actually insane with rage seeing Henry’s actions. There’s nothing worth more in this life than a sibling, and to see someone be so cold, so vile, to theirs, wants me to make his head an internal organ. Between me and my brother I can’t even imagine either of us doing anything bad to each other, especially intentionally. He’s my baby brother and even though we’ve had our share of arguments the bottom line is and always will be that I would always have his back and be ready to die for him. Hell I wouldn’t even do that to anyone, no matter how attracted I am to a woman, if she’s in a relationship (MUCH LESS A HAPPY MARRIAGE WITH TWO KIDS), there are plenty of fish in the sea and I can and have to get over it. Sincerely, I hope Henry faces justice in this life or the next for everything he destroyed. The relationships, the futures, the YEARS OF LIFE he had taken away all for his own selfish, shallow obsession. And I hope OP’s parents face the same for having raised such a monster. Jenny is in the wrong too, there’s absolutely no way any sane, well-adjusted person could so quickly believe strangers over her own husband. Do you have any idea what a marriage is? It’s trust, it’s the absolute trust you need to put into a person, to love someone to the point of standing by them even if everyone else doesn’t.
As a victim of SA myself, I don't believe in any SA claim from the start. I've seen way too many people using It as an excuse, revenge plot, petty comeback, you name it. The only case I take It as true, 100% true, is with kids. The rest is a 'I can totally feel you, but you gotta show me some proof' and that is it
idk. there almost never is proof in cases of SA and false accusations are still way rarer i think the family of the abuser should support them (assuming they are not also family of the victim) because as much as i want to hate sexual abusers, if they are truly cut off from everything then it usually only gets worse ( imagine if OP actually was a sexual abuser, i wouldn't have felt bad for him but at the same time the situation he was in definitely was not a recipe for rehabilitation or even prevention) - as in, believe them to a point; don't cut them off but ask that they get help, don't help them slander a potential victim ect.. but imagine being married to someone accused of sexual assault; it largely depends on the relationship and the person's history. as a survivor, it would be very hard for me to be with someone accused of sexual assault regardless of their innocence if it was in question because the vase majority of the time they aren't innocent - it would have to be someone i truly trusted to not have done something like that. and if someone is coming to me as a victim I 100% believe them except in cases of obvious duplicity / or history of fabrication. I think you have a duty to someone who likely has no proof and is automatically disadvantaged in society in such a situation. This doesn't look like beating up the abuser or anything but simply if you want to be friends with the victim you must cut off the accused, if the victim needs support you provide it, ect. obviously this will be unpopular under the story of a fabricated claim but 1. I would not be ashamed of helping Amanda if it later came out because I still did the right thing 2. If I cut off OP as a friend then it was a poor action based on Amanda's duplicity but still the right action given my history 3. If I was family or close to OP then I would have helped him get help, specifically therapy which is still positive for a victim of fabricated SA claims, without removing full support for him unless it became too triggering for me, which is *still* the fault of Amanda IMO and, most importantly, almost every person I know personally (including myself) who has survived SA has next to no proof and also is desperate for support, and the facts given around false accusations are again that they are incredibly rare compared to the all too common case of SA.
@@bladesqueen5201i agree with you. I feel like the family was way too quick to react tho which is the main problem. They didnt let him defend himself. Like what if he had an alibi? What if the brother and amanda made a mistake along the way? nobody investigated the situation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty (unless the victim was a child) Im mostly just confused as to how you can be with someone for that long and believe something like that so quickly? Unless she already thought that he was capable of SA or like you said, she was SA’ed in the past and it was a trigger for her.
@@bladesqueen5201 _as a survivor, it would be very hard for me to be with someone accused of sexual assault regardless of their innocence if it was in question because the vase majority of the time they aren't innocent_ I'm afraid I'm going to have to tell you that your current partner sexually assaulted my niece a few years ago. I have no proof of this, other than my very reliable word as an internet stranger, but now you know so that you can take proper actions and never again be with them. _the facts given around false accusations are again that they are incredibly rare compared to the all too common case of SA._ No. False accusations are rife. Luckily, most of them are recognized as such at an early stage before they cause too many legal problems. But the ones making the accusations seldomly get any repercussions for their actions, despite the fact that they often do cause long-term issues for the accused even if the police never investigate them.
People truly do not underatand how much false accusations ruin lives. They ruin the lives of innocent people, destroy the bonds of friendship and familial ties. Its a disgusting thing to do to anyone, it also lowers the chance of actual SA survivors being believed. Truly just a horrible thing to do, people who falsely accuse are terrible and people who believe them without even checking the story or listening to the other side are just as bad.
The ex has no right to be upset that you’ve moved on if anything she should be grateful that she’s even being able to speak to you again. As if believing the lies weren’t bad enough she did you the greater disrespect of marrying your brother.
As a person who actually was assaulted, I feel like being assaulted and being falsely accused of SA is pretty much equally horrible. Im so sorry for people who have to go through either
@@cheerie9654 Not at all! It's just that (in my experience with reddit stories), the more deatailed they are the bigger the probability it is to be fake. In real life stories, when people publish them on reddit, they tend to not tell their whole life, just the crucial info others need to know, and they mostly just publish it for advice or to get it off their chest. Like, for example, horror stories on reddit (those that are fake) are written in a quality that could get them published. But real horror stories tend to not have that same amount of deatail (not sure why, just a pattern that i've noticed). Just to remark, that doesn't mean THIS story is fake, but it certaintly adds to the probability. There is another reason i belive THIS story MIGHT be fake, and i didn't mention it before because i wanted to recheck it... Usually, is SA cases (especially when it goes public), it's something that goes to court and that people get persecuted for. Like, if someone publicly tells their SA story (which will definitely ruin the reputation of the perpetrator), yet they don't ever mention going to court or TRYING to, that's a red flag. It means they just want to get their public reputation ruined, as there is no other reason to publicly tell it without involving the police (unless it's for protecting others, but going to court would also do that). Again, this doesn't mean the story is fake, there is really no way to know for sure if the comenter doesn't outright say it is. But i've learned it's best to take every story from stranger on the internet with a grain of salt. I've seen many times people accusing eachother of things, only to start a war between the followers of each one... it doesn't end well, especially when it comes to light that the side i supported was the one lying. So i always reccomend people to have a little skepticism, and limit themselves to only give support/advice if needed.
That story was disgusting but im glad OP got his life back together seeing his own daughters again and starting a new family with a good woman, also Derrick is a bro
OP got lucky in a lot of areas considering what happened, I know it’s really awful shitty I know I know but what I mean is because he wasn’t working when OP’s wife filed for divorce that allowed him to get out of paying child support and alimony. I’m usually one to say men should pay child support but if you’re kicked out of your own family, yeah that’s good enough reason to not be forced to pay. Also his boss informing him he should resign is what led the courts to determine he couldn’t pay the child support, thank that boss. That boss was right too, resign before he’s forced to fire you if/when the cops come around
I heard this story on other channels, and I remember a couple conversations speculating this might have happened in Asia, probably China or India (though there are other options). It could be that the country this happened in does not do child support.
@@TwilightMysts OP mentions himself that he got out of paying child support and alimony due to being unemployed 6:30 so OP definitely lives in a country where child support exists
@@ngndndOr India. Courts lean incredibly towards women in gender issues here. Well intentioned, no doubt, but that only makes the misuse of laws easier.
It has a lot of the elements of classic fiction mixed with the unrealistic holes that modern tech would fill. Shy man finds happiness. Jealous brother betrays him and bad family shun him. He falls to rock bottom by no fault of his own. Chance meeting leads to great results (even gets buff to the point of gaining 50 lbs!!!!! From stringbean to heavyweight athlete?), and the big one - bro marries ex-wife. The hole in the story? This happened in smartphone times. He could have proven he was elsewhere during the party. If he was at the party, there'd have been witnesses who hung out with him.
@@YoYo-gt5iq that assumes anyone would actually listen to him, which it sounds as if they were too angry to even hear a word in his own defense, much less tech that many boomers think can just be hacked. I'm with you in thinking the story is a work of fiction though.
theyre disappointed with how op reacted because they wanted to clear their own conscience and guilt through op's forgiveness. but thats something they will need to live with forever.
I will never understand how even after everything this individual wonders if they should ruin their brother. This situation demands vengeance, the defamation lawsuit should be just the start.
It would be a lot of time, money, and effort. He'd also put some blowback onto his ex and family, and it would pretty obviously screw up any chance of reconciliation.
Fuck reconciliation. You should never think so low of your ownself that you would ever need that kind of trash around you and in your life. He needs to grind his brother down to the smallest level of dirt that he is until he attempts self deleting because he deserves nothing less. As for the family they should never be allowed around the children and he needs full custody of his children from Jenny who is not capable of taking care of them by allowing them to be in a person like Henry’s life. But that is only in a perfect world. So none of that will happen sadly 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I'm not the vengeful type. Getting back at someone makes your life dramatic, too and I would rather live in peace. There are exceptions... I would consider it here but I would have to weigh it out
Yeah nah. Fuck reconciliation and everyone that was involved would deserve the blow back. Only innocent party besides the OP is the children. Ruin that fuckers life and walk away from the wreck without looking back.
That brother is most definitely a malignant Narcissist and also highly likely Sociopathic. He's able to influence and manipulate the people around him (probably charming and communicate very well because his one-sided words and acts alone can convince the stupid enablers around him) from a very young age, never feel guilt, almost has no bottom line in morality and sense of propriety, and has been isolating OP from his parents etc from early on as well. That's how these types of people work.
SA is not something that should be used as a false weapon I myself have been a victim of SA at 9 years old and it makes me sick to my stomach knowing people like henry exist, henry is a horrible human being if he can even be morally described as a human.
Ah yes. The favorite child is believed even despite everything he's done. The OP is somehow easily accused and almost everyone believes he's guilty. And the audacity of the family to be mad at OP for not being sure if he wanted contact with them even after what had happened. What a horrible family 😒. Hopefully OP doesn't have to deal with them ever again.
As someone whose worst fear is being rejected, abandoned and forgotten, this probably wasn’t the best thing to watch. Especially with it being the second thing I watched today
This man's practically a saint, i swear to God. After 8 years he basically gets *the golden ticket* to revenge. Then getting contacted again by everyone that abandoned you? When i heard that i could only think of one response, a quote that sprang to mind _immediately:_ "...So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly f***ing firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the f***ing United Nations and get a f***ing binding resolution to keep me from f***ing destroying you. I am talking scorched-earth, motherf***er! I will massacre you! I will f*** you up!" -Les Grossman, 2008
These stories always have these good people who say “I had a group discussion, called my parents, etc etc.” There’s not gonna be another meet up. It’s been 8 years and nobody believed me and everybody disowned me and not even nobody secretly checked in on me. Imma just tell them all to go fuck themselves. I’m so mad two kids got mixed up in it, cus that’s the only reason why he has to stay mixed up with those monsters.
It reminds me of the temple bombing story arc in Star Wars. Ahsoka was framed for the crime, expelled from the order, and was being tried for treason. Eventually, the true perpetrator was caught, but the damage was done. When the council wanted to restore her into the order, she just left, seeing how corrupted it truly was.
I mean it should irritate you more that it’s a victim fetish post and completely fake. There are several of these going around that are only slightly different.
Henry needs to be taken to court. It doesn't matter he has a child with Jenny. He caused his brother, his own blood to be disowned by the family and he also lost his both daughters. Its not something that happens and heals, 8 years he suffered from that. I would not forgive anyone that stabs you in the back that quick.
It’s amazing how much power a woman’s word can have with just two words she can ruin a man’s life. In most cases the law just side with the woman and the man if not cut out from his family would more than likely just go to jail the courts really need to take an account some men do this but most men don’t. In many cases these men are falsely imprisoned by women who feel they are wrong by them searches and breaking up or not going out with them and Coates will take this as much as in this man up to jail and if not that is name will be Tarnished and ruined forever
There was no police investigation here, it wasn't the law, it was his family and friends that sided with her. If a police investigation had been done then the fake texts would have been fund out
Anybody's word. They'll always believe the accuser, particularly if the victim was a golden child and the accusee was more of the scapegoat in the family. That happened to me. Later on, if proven false, they'll wonder why you don't just forgive everybody in sight and move on like nothing happened (some therapists will even pull that crap). I consider the remaining anger the reminder that one's family is trash and must never be trusted again.
There was actually a similar case on an RSpace video where a guy got assaulted because he exposed his SIL for cheating and even though there was security footage and he had scratch marks on his face,the police gave him that Futurama fry stare and asked "are you sure you want to press charges?" Talk about equality lmao
See, he’s much better than me. Because if someone, let alone my own sibling, really ruined my life that badly? I would’ve probably actually gone to jail for murder. Because fine, ruin my life.. Just means I’ve got nothing else to lose
@@Dustin81If OP didnt have Kim and Dereck he might not have made it to that point to even found out the truth. Amanda would have to live with the fact that she caused that which she was already afraid of revealing it so it might never have came out. Also OP's daughters would never have known their real dad and also everyone would still believe he was a bad person then.
Unfortunately the early 2000s was the start of this crazy girl power feminism. Actually, women falsely accusing men already existed for a very long time. Remember Emmett Till? It's just recently it has become mainstream as social media allowed crazy women to validate themselves and form echo chambers
I mean the parents had always favoured OP's brother so it actually makes sense they believed him first... But Jenny, Jenny the f*ck is wrong with you? How do you trust your husband's brother over him without proof and with the likely hood of knowing the fact he's always been favoured and OP and him likely don't have the BEST relationship (maybe not awful before this but there'd still be some resentment)
Pardon me for flat out copying my story from above. Same happened to me, but I got slightly lucky. It was from a cousin who lied constantly about everything, so the fallout was...controllable. Somewhat. And in response to him trying to get out of a DUI charge where he didn't want to have his urine tested weekly. My own mother questioned me (she now wonders why I radiantly don't give a crap about her any longer). His parents instantly believed him until they needed stuff from me and can't seem to figure out why the word "No" is a knee-jerk reaction. The cousin offed himself when he went off his psych meds and figured more booze and drugs would do just as well. I do confess to sitting in the back of the funeral and thoroughly enjoying it. I am not a perfect person. My family's trash. Rich trash, but trash. To expand a little with another concept I used, it's the case where the cousin was the golden boy of the narcissists. Why, I can't say. He was always in trouble, substance abuse problems, stole things, thrown out of high school in tenth grade, and so on. Never had a stable job. I was the scapegoat of the entire family. Again, no real reason. Model student, graduated Ivy League, good career, I currently do medical audits for a gigantic company and my job requires ridiculously high levels of ethics and attention to detail. My parents were/are both narcissists. My childhood was...let's not go there. At this point, I'm no contact with a lot of the family and very low contact with my mother. My husband does more of that by necessity. She really doesn't have anything nice to say to anybody. (Shrug) It is what it is. I won't meet her eventual death with anything but a shrug and a bit of mourning for what should have been, and none at all for what she actually was.
@@queerdeificeeli985What makes it even more baffling is the fact that she KNEW that Herry already had an obsession with her. She really didn't even think twice about it when his husband got framed, and then actually went on to marry his brother?! Like, at this point I feel like she just wanted to be with the brother so she just went along with the story without questioning it.
I love how the friend after getting the news basically went “does the government think your a criminal?” And that’s the only part he cares about because it seemed like he didn’t really believe the allegations that he was told about unless there was actual proof
I heard of this story before and I heard that it was faked. Two redditors posted the story. The first redditor deleted it and it seems that the other one did it as well. Though the first redditor could've been real, but I don't know.
Could be. It's not like these things don't happen IRL. One lady got a man sent to jail because she dreamt he raped her. She recanted decades later. Classy lady. Real classy.
@@coldermanSo not only did she falsely accuse and ruin a man's life.....but she also decided to make money off of his despair?! Wtf kinda hell are we living in?
one thing ive learned over the course of my life is that bad people need to be punished. if they arent they will destroy everything they come in contact with. sue his ass.
Scorched earth would be too kind for these kind of people. OP needs to go to the tabloids and just destroy them completely. Forgiveness is just a word in a fantasy story - Destroy, dismantle and decimate those who seek to do harm to you.
God this is awful. The thing that really makes me so angry is I guarantee they all knew he was innocent. They knew he was innocent yet they drove him out all the same. When SA ACTUALLY happens, the perpetrator is always favoured, but when it comes to a false accusation it magically gets believed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
He should most definitely go scorched earth on the brother. I would. The only reason Id spare Amanda is bc she came clean and did everything I asked her to do. Family can kiss my ass too. Every year id send a pic of my new family in a holiday card made out of the Letter of disownment
@@noobslayer6915 nah scorch earth her,if shes wasn't so spineless and morally corrupt this guys life wouldn't of been torched into nothing,glad her husband left her.
@@Dustin81 Well, he sent texts on his daughters birthdays, so they could tell he was still alive if they wanted to check. If it were me, I would not have done that. Bridge burned, zero contact. But in that situation I would leave the region, put hundreds of miles between us, change my name, new phone number, stop using any social media, put some work into changing my appearance (possibly even plastic surgery to change my face if I had the money). Everything I could to make sure that the person they knew no longer existed, and they could not find me. Probably work with a PI to make it as effective as possible. And as vindictive as I would probably feel in that situation, there is a good chance that I would try doing something to convince them I canceled my subscription to the mortal realm. I'd likely work with a lawyer (to make sure it was legal) and a PI (to make it convincing.) You burn me that badly and you don't get a second chance. If they did some how discover that I was innocent, they wouldn't be able to find me, and they would not even have a reason to try since they would think I was gone.
Honestly, no punishment is too severe for all of them, not just his brother but the ex-wife and his parents too. What they did is absolutely inexcusable when there was no proof of SA
Simple: go nuclear, take them for everything they have. OP has enough to press charges. Ghost them afterwards, they have no place in OP's life. Derek and James did more for OP than his own parents, brother, and ex-wife. Those dudes deserve to be called OP's family.
This is a great example of, “There is always two sides to a story.” I hate people who just make up some SA story about themselves and the other person is instantly blamed because people will always believe the “victim”.
My heart hurts for op. Loosing his family after trusting his brother despite knowing he shouldnt..the betrayal cuts deep. It mustve been hell for him to loose his girls like that. Im a bit happy that amanda got her karma, to think she wouldnt even consider coming out to tell the truth until her bf/ex forced it out of her.. i hope op gets the closure he needs and lives happily with his new family and friends.
Ruin him, ruin him so badly that his new name will be Sodom. He doesn't deserve any mercy. He's had more than enough. Karma's a bitch? Then let him feel that.
I hate to disappoint but also a little happy to say the story is fake. I went onto reddit to fins any updates and only found people discussing how the story is basically a copy paste with a few tweaks. One that is posted every other month.
You could sue him for blackmail and making a sexual harassment charge, which is a serious crime name, the girl and him in 60 years of jail time like I’m not even kidding that’s a serious crime like you could ruin him
This proves that karma will come. It may not be when you want it it may feel like forever, but it will. Im so happy for him and wish him and his family nothing but the best!
He needs to proceed with the lawsuit against his brother, that's way too much to just let go and if he was smart he would go through with it, otherwise he's no better than his ex-parents in this manner for dismissing the golden child. His actions should land him in jail, Skanky(jenny) can raise her unfortunate spawn of Henry alone like she did with his two daughters.
Bury your brother and ex wife with a defamation suit you lost everything because of their selfishness, the fact that they have a child together shouldn't dissuade you from seeking justice for the years of trauma that re still with you to this day. They turned your life upside down and cost you your family your children and your friends group your career and your mental health. They deserve to pay for what they have done
Nah I would’ve ruined his brother’s life without hesitation Like how do you just ruin a life and expect nothing bad to happen?! And how could you believe a fake accusation that fast about the man you married and had kids with?? Seriously it just sounds like he’s the only smart person in his family
The fact that she didn’t even think to question it. I’m not saying make excuses, but if someone accused my partner of SA, I’d take them to the police station. That way there was a full investigation. There are too many cases that aren’t resolved because of the fact they don’t go to the cops, and shit like this is the opposite end of it
The audacity of Jenny to think she is entitled to a hug from OP smh, it was very satisfying when OP held his hands up to stop her and then introduced Kim
they had no evidence he did anything and took another persons side anyway. They neglected and beat him, disowned him and helped ruin his life and they think themselves entitled to his politeness? His forgiveness? Worthless trash, at least OP didn't grow old with them; that's the silver lining to this tar black cloud.
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What do you mean, You just did a horror story video.
Where is the original post?
"we blindly believed you were guilty and disowned you and you were alone for 8 years, but now that we have new evidence, we're sorry... and how dare you be rude to us for not accepting our apology and immediately embracing us as family!"
They're a special kind of stupid.
At least OP doesn't have to waste time thinking of they should be forgiven with how easy they just made it.
It’s sad how many stories have parents with this kind of attitude
Theyre entitled as fuck
Or fake.
@@alexapatexa Nah, rest of the family believed without evidence. Not to mention no history of anything remotely close to that from OP. The only one who did nothing wrong is OP.
The brother beat him up, knowing that op isn’t at fault. Henry went out with two other women in order to get with Jenny. Henry needs to be destroyed and taken to court
henry is not his enemy henry is THE ENEMY
if op had any balls he would unalive him
@@ChudDin I agree, but he finally got his life together and has a job, loyal wife, a baby otw, and a good friend circle. With the past threat of prison, do you think he'd actually want that on his record?
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Hot take, i think henry needs to be eliminated.
How ironic is that a friend he met a long time ago was the one to save his life after his own parents and wife almost made him commit suicide.
Yeah, in other things that definitely never happened 😂
Sometimes family never lasts forever
Friend do ❤
Yeah
@@bel6891Can you not?? Wtf if wrong with you
@@strawberriesstarI didn't ask you aquestion so I've no idea what that illiterate clap trap is, I'm not versed in fucktard!
I hate these stories because they remind me of people who use SA as a weapon to destroy someone's life. No morals, no qualms and no remorse. Just pure evil. Then plus the people who believe it without questions are even worse, especially those who are close yet they choose not to hear their friend/brother/husband/son/father denial.
It's even worse. Because of stories like this real victims of SA are often not believed and accused of lying. Henry AND Amanda need to go to jail for this. Imagine if OP actually went with his thoughts and actually k*lled himself. They'd have his blood on their hands.
Not to mention that it partially hinders actual victims of SA from coming forward and reporting it. Giving them a bad name and less credibility.
People who weaponize SA are scum of the earth
It also hurts the real victims of SA. Every time someone does this it becomes more and more difficult for real victims to be believed. It used to be that the people who came forward were believed because "who would lie about something like that?", but now scrutiny is needed. Police have to determine if the alleged victim has any evidence. To that end it makes sense why the police didn't arrest him. The screenshots could have been anyone. I'm not personally familiar with that app, but if it's anything like Discord where the name you see isn't a username but rather a nickname there's absolutely no evidence to be had in that. The police probably used the report to get access to logs and with the logs probably determined that the evidence presented was false and then didn't go any further with it, but in that case why didn't the police notify anyone of such a finding? Or bring in the person behind the accusation for questioning?
Now, I have mixed feelings about the cases where an accusation is recanted because in the present climate without a confession a life cannot begin to heal and I wouldn't want to discourage such behavior, and it does seem likely that she held back on confessing because she feared the consequences, but there should be some consequences for doing something like this. Unfortunately, even people who are caught lying rarely see more than a month of jail time and that's not much of a deterrant.
@@Elliandr" It used to be that the people who came forward were believed because "who would lie about something like that?","
If you think ANY accusation of SA should be blindly believed, you're the kind of person who ends up enabling malicious false accusations. Scrutiny was ALWAYS needed, just like any crime, whether or not false accusations exist.
I fucking hate those feminists and others who push the victims should be believed no matter what crap, they have no idea the effect it has in someone who is being falsely accused, like it makes sense that nobody should take any sides till the full story comes out. I almost got falsely accused of SA by my ex but luckily I’m around people who don’t just blindly believe that crap and questioned her she couldn’t keep up with the lies and quickly admitted I did nothing.
OP actually dodged a nuke
Jenny believing someone she doesnt know instead of his husband
I hope OP takes this into court against Henry
A huge, non-tactical, fifty-megaton dirty bomb nuke. Run, OP, find decent people in your life.
Same happened to me, but I got slightly lucky. It was from a cousin who lied constantly about everything, so the fallout was...controllable. Somewhat. And in response to him trying to get out of a DUI charge where he didn't want to have his urine tested weekly. My own mother questioned me (she now wonders why I radiantly don't give a crap about her any longer). His parents instantly believed him until they needed stuff from me and can't seem to figure out why the word "No" is a knee-jerk reaction. The cousin offed himself when he went off his psych meds and figured more booze and drugs would do just as well.
I do confess to sitting in the back of the funeral and thoroughly enjoying it. I am not a perfect person.
My family's trash. Rich trash, but trash.
well.... he didn't dodge the nuke. His life was basically ruined.
I wouldn't call it a dodge mate, your SO may be on your side in random accusations but when you have a SA case with visual proof damn right most of us would also jump to conclusion, the nuke that was dodged is from the bf of amanda
@@tinokerkhof He didn't go to jail, so...
More like he got hit by the nuke and somehow survived.
Family after so long: "we're disappointed how you reacted"
Me if I were OP: "Well I'm disappointed that I was falsely accused of SA, my wife divorcing me and taking our children away, lost my job my friends, disowned by my very family for 8 years (I.E YOU), sending me into a depression where I thought about ending myself on a daily basis while I clutched onto the extremely few things I had going for me in my life...but YEAH your feelings of disappointment is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than mine"
The AUDACITY they had 😒
Not to mention the reoccurring nightmares and literal beating he took
Don’t forget getting absolutely battered by his own brother while his family did nothing while he was drunk
@@DragonTheButcher ah yes that too, thank you
Right? Such narcissism! Never admitting when they are wrong.
Sue him for fraud, assault, and defamation. Under a plea deal get the lady to testify against him. You have proof via the layer's recordings more then enough to ruin him forever.
tell the parents you have none, and that you hope they rot alone without knowing your daughter.
Jenny is useless, ignore her unless it involves your daughters.
Best advice here
Talk to the lawyer about suing the parents. Do NOT settle with a plea, and if they are boomers that read the local newspaper, make sure an article ends up there. They created this problem with the older son, they should reap what they have sown.
The brother needs to be destroyed. The ex-wife is scum for believing without verifying. Kim is the true wife for OP
“But he’s FAMILYYYYYY!” -Jenny, after learning her husband’s brother’s marriage failed because he was into her
@@dimsufferer9951💀
Thats the worst part for me. That was your husband. The way tthe story. Is wrroten though it sounds like he might be from some developing country though so maybe they didnt understand pictures could be faked.
@@Distress.He did say that the law favors women so he is probably from North America or somewhere in europe though. Idk any developing countries that favor women lmao
The people in the best position to do that are Jenny in the divorce and the ExParents (great term that OP came up with) by disowning him in turn. As stated in the story they are already using their funds to keep his head above water. That would hurt him hard. As for suing him? He's broke. Blood from a stone.
There is an update in the story:
Summary -
He got in touch with his parents and made boundaries clear. Parents tried to get him to take care of them and meet his kid (Kim had his son by then) but he put up boundaries and cut them off when they crossed it. Mom cried and he let her have it. He got his brother's number, spoke to him, but his brother just laughed at him. His brother is now a bum and a leech with no job, only alive because the parents still give him an allowance
The parents want the op to take care of them? Let's check out the list here. The parents did not listen to him and kicked him out, lost his job and his kids. He was shauned by his friends, and he almost attempted suicide. The audacity to ask him if they could move in with him, no wonder his brother turned out messed up. Don't get me started on op's brother he is just pure evil and he just laughed at him. If I were op, I would've said keep laughing while being homeless and leeching off from mom and dad. You got no one that cares for you and your gonna stay single for the rest of your life due to your attitude, manipulation, and lying. Oh and I'll see you in court for defamation, and assault from when he was getting kicked out the house.
@@eggboi955 assault and defamation could already be statute of limitation, depending on the country.
Is there a link
This is a disappointing update. I'm glad OP is no-contact with his ex-parents, but I wish he sued his ex-brother for defamation.
@@jamestown8398 right?
As someone who has been SA’d, and also been falsely accused of SA, this story wrenched my soul, but by god this was vindicating
I also have a wrong accusation ...
Oh my lord, you have been SA'd?!
I'm so sorry even tho is not my fault
@@_reddpaprika_It’s very common. Most disabled children are sexually abused, for example.
Yea same...
Damn, looks like me and you fill the same shoes.
People in the comments: "WHY IS HE CONFUSED, HE SHOULD DESTROY HIS BROTHER"
It's because he's a genuinely kind person. The only reason he's being this cold in the first place is because of all that was done to him. The fact that he can go through all of this and still speak civilly with not just his ex, but the woman who literally FRAMED him, AND go on a successful honeymoon, and keep it together the whole time, is a testament to his character.
Edit: Wow, didn't know you all were pissed off enough to be breaking out scripture. Calm down, for goodness sake.
Seriously. It sucks to know the world kept fucking over such a genuinely good person. I hope he's doing alright.
It's specifically because he's a good person that Henry needs to be destroyed. Without consequences, perps will act again.
Yeah, but if they can do that, what will they do next? They need to be punished. Not as a revenge, but just because they're dangers to others.
I will be honest he will go to hell.
There's being kind and then there's being a doormat.
I can't even begin to imagine how heartbreaking that must be. To be ripped away from your life and family to the point your children don't even know who you are, and the one they call "daddy" is the very man who ruined your life. I don't even know what I'd do if that were me
I'd find out just how well I can hide a body or 2
Same
Simple. Murder.
@@robertross45 facts
@@robertross45”I don’t enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it is just a chore. Like any other.”
- Joshua Graham
I'm feeling second hand rage against jenny. How dare she. Honestly sitting here in tears because of what happened to this dude. So glad he got his happy ending with what seems to be a great woman.
If someone said my husband did this I would take his side because I know my hubby would NEVER. She didn't even her him out.
@@Cafeallday222yeah till they show you the PROOF the girl showed proof no shit they belived her
i started laughing when he said she cried uncontrollably when he introduced kim as his wife lmaoooo
Sure jenny is wrong but she's not the main one to be mad at.
@@Cafeallday222Not a good idea. A family member of mine was sexually abused by her stepfather for YEARS and her mother did nothing because she didn't believe her she had that same "you can't tell me anything about my man" mentality and it ruined people's lifes. Just be your own person and use your brain. Dont blindly believe ANYONE, even if you think you know them.
If your family and loved ones believe a random story from a person and believe it without a chance to defend yourself, they Do Not Deserve You at all in return
They are no family at all ...
It's crazy how Jenny is crying like OP isn't allowed to move on and start a new family.
Jenny:" ahahahaha you weren't supposed to move on and wait for me until the day you expire " ....
@@thetruth1223 She was tainted man. Any woman doing this has no value. Glad he found a new one.
From the comments I reckon Jenny got involved with that demon after OP and her got divorced due to the SA accusation? Then that's all on her.
I don't want to go through the whole video because 3 minutes in I already feel the secondhand heartache. Met a Narcissist once that destroyed my sister's marriage because of their jealousy and desire to monopolise and manipulate people... so I know that OP's brother is such a Narcissist and highly probably a Sociopath as well.
The fact she believed Henry so easily just proves she wasn’t a good wife Jenny deserved everything she got and so did Amanda thank god for mark
@@MollyHJohnsshe married him after one fucking year lmao AND had a kid with him..
kim and dereck are the goat! a true asian and a true friend! you need nothing else!~ im glad you where able to stand up again and the person you are today!
Dont forget Mark. If he didnt make Amanda confess, the truth may never came out. He is also a good person.
@@uwetheiss970Respect to that guy, we don’t know much about him but any man able to unearth things buried deep like this is likely worth their salt.
@@boom-jr8vi Honestly, I hope he leaves her. I couldn't be with a woman who lied to destroy someone else's life, even if she's sorry.
@@uwetheiss970 And then Mark bailed on Amanda. He was like an angel who comes into your life to save you and then you never see them again lmao
@@sydneyps If I would find out that my GF/fiance had wrongfully accused another guy of rape, I would also run as fast as I can. I don't know if I would have thought in that situation about this other guy. So I see in Mark really an guardian angel for the OP. And I can't blame him for dumping such a piece of work.
This guy should definitely charge Henry, Amanda told him about how Henry had planned all that out, and faked evidence. That shit was straight up intentional, and pre-meditated. Henry should be forced to pay OP for his loss of wages from losing his job, + pain and suffering for losing his family, and likely having severe depression.
From the sounds of it Henry is a failure without pot to p155 in. What would be the point of a law suit? The POS could not cover legal costs let alone damages. All it would do is create a lot of drama. OP has found some peace in his new life. Leave the people who disowned him to their own guilt and turmoil.
It is understandable that OP didn't want the problem 8 years ago but if he had rolled the dice and gone to the police himself this would have forced Amanda to perjure herself and risk prison. She might have cracked then. If she filed a false complaint then maybe he could have turned up evidence (security camera footage or similar) from the club carpark to exonerate him. Then he might have had Amanda and Henry on the hook for perjury or filing a false report. Even if they got to serve some time (probably not) it is unlikely that they would have suffered for 8 years but they would have criminal records.
On the other hand OP may have a case against his former employer for forcing him out based on pretty much nothing. Could be a payday there.
@@McAnik-uo1ol re the old employer: I don't think so, but there might be a case there. A lot of legal recourse goes out the window when you "voluntarily" quit. He'd basically need to prove that it was a form of constructive dismissal. Plus after 8 years it might be past the statute of limitations, for a lot of employment laws those have fairly short statutes of limitations, like 2-5 years.
But yeah, while in a mostly fair world this never would have happened, and in a slightly less fair world Henry would be paying him enough to retire, the fact is that you can't get blood from a stone.
Amanda honestly is the worst.....helping pos Henry destroy an innocent guy just cause she had a crush and in the end henry just wanted to bone guys wife.....
OP should definitely go full defamation suit. What happens to Henry's daughter is none of his concern and not his responsibility, if Henry loses everything the daughter will still have Jenny and while it will suck to not have a dad its no worse than what OP's daughters went through. As for the parents, they are strangers to OP now and they don't deserve to have OP as a son after everything.
Really? Think who the dad is in this situation. The kid would do better without this kind of dad in her life.
Jesus Christ, could you imagine the damage this girl could do if she was raised by him and took after him?
This story just filled me with rage like how fucked up do you have to be to first form a plan to break up your brothers marriage just because you loved his wife and then in the process have your own brother excommunicated from the family and frame him as doing a sexual assault its so fucked up hes a horrible person
Yeah same literally same
It’s most likely a fake story
@@apun9307its better to treat it as if its a genuine story cause if it's actually a true story hearing scrutiny and insults could break the person
Narcisssists 101. And he's also most probably Sociopathic (no remorse, no guilt, no sense of morality, no bottom line in committing something law-breaking, charming and manipulative; like a serial killer).
@@apun9307I wqs sure of it when he said his brother beat him up in front of his family who did nothing 😂
The ex wife is a special kind of mentally incapacitated. She believed random people over her own husband just because she saw a few (probably badly photoshopped) pictures of “evidence.” I’ll never understand how people believe rumours without question and then proceed to go on a witch hunt. Then his family has the audacity to act like they were also the victims. I guess critical thinking is a dying trait. No one is entitled to forgiveness either. The ex wife getting together with his brother of all people is also disgusting and suspicious. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had been flirting/cheating.
They didn't photoshopped the screenshots. He wrote that they just made a new account with his picture and wrote the messages themselves.
@@qq84 I believe he said they were pulled him his social media, if everyone took the chance to validate the story it would have fallen apart
Yeah, Jenny really did come across as a $lu+ in this story. Even if she didn't cheat with his *brother* the entire time they were dating / married / together, before the divorce, she did sleep with Henry, give birth to Henry's baby & end up marrying Henry. Her Ex's *brother* ... so yeah, she comes across as a $lu+.
@@spaghettiupseti9990it was specifically his WhatsApp account, which is technically "social media" I guess but also what a lot of people use as their texting app. Basically made it look real by using the new number, setting that phone number as a contact under OPs name and with the same pic he uses for the app, the app probably wouldn't show the number, so it likely looked really convincing, but like 5 minutes of critical thought should show the holes in the logic
She needs the kids taken from her
They didn’t even hear out OP’s side of the story…and yet they are mad at him for not accepting their apology nor wanting anything to do with them.
Good on Amanda's bf: He heard the confession from her, and instead of simply standing by, he made her tell the truth to OP and everyone else which lead to them being proven innocent.
As for the "brother" take him to court. He was willing to destroy your life with a lie in order to steal your spouse, manipulated the person making those claims, whom he was sleeping with in the first place. He physically assaulted you and got pretty much everyone you knew to excommunicate you from their lives. And in the end he acted like a spoiled rotten child who got the toy and threw it away after. He deserves to get absolutely rail-roaded in court for all the damages he caused and them some.
To me it’s the fact that Mark made her tell the truth and then BAILED at the last minute when all was said and done. Applause to him 👏
Take the brother to court? I think you mean "take the brother out"
Woodchippers are highly underrated.
ex-wife is just as bad as the parents
Didn't listen to op and readily got with the guy who was making advances on her while with his brother. Just looks like she was cheating.
They literally sat there and watched my guy get the tar beaten out of him by a person that literally set him up. They have the literal audacity to want to talk when they should have eased into it and been on his time.
Also couldn’t believe OP questioning if he should go after his brother legally. I would make that man destitute and unable to bounce back. The process of thinking all of that up and implemented damn near perfectly or at least good enough to have no one question things and have kids with his brothers ex is just solid proof of his treacherous nature and disregard for his own kin.
Lastly wtf how does know one question things if
1. His previous marriage failed because he was too into Jenny
2. He was causing problems before with being into her
Like that’s extremely weird how no one questioned a thing not even OP
Lawsuits are expensive. In time, money, and effort. He's already stressed out enough about all this.
Say literally one more time. Say it one more fucking time. Please.
Some stress is worth it.
If I had a brother do that to me, he'd wake up with a knife buried in his sternum
It's an easily resolved situation. If the parents want to give a quick and easy proof they love him, they can bankroll the entire thing. No expense on OP's part, parents eat crow and Henry eats shit.
Op should have called the police right then and started an investigation. You don't wait for that stuff you go ahead and start pressing charges.
Nothing would have happened to the girl aside from maybe a fine, they get caught lying about SA but they get out hands free
That would've made things worse for OP
@@MacabreAfterpartyor not since the fabricated message will be found out fast thanks to digital forensics. And it is known that fake screenshots are easy to do
can't they just go to their service provider and check their activity?
@@m4x927 this, yea, it's actually insanely easy to prove this.
It really pisses me off at how people lie about stuff like SA so that things could go their way without realizing the consequences it leads to. This is also why many people don't believe REAL victims
Like my mom always said, all you need is a handful of true friends and never betray them in turn, this will lead your life to being one worth living. This guy has Kim and Dereck and that has made his life far better than I could have hoped for. Stay strong my man, and for the love of all you deem holy take that piece of shit brother to court and ruin him. However be careful, he might not take this laying down and might try to harm you two girls.
A couple years ago I was falsely accused of pedophillia and lost all of my friends. All of my friends blindly believed the minor who lied even though I had proof that nothing of the sort ever occurred but was dismissed and abandoned. I've often cringed at myself for having dreams about defending my innocence and those old situations but I saw a lot of myself in this guy and his story. I'm really glad that things worked out for him and sometimes wish that the liar in my story would do what Amanda did and admit she lied but somehow I don't think it ever will. It's hard sometimes having gone through that because it feels like you're completely alone and in a way you are, but seeing this story and others who have gone through something similar makes me feel in some fucked up way a lot less isolated, like there are others who know what it's like because they've lived it. Happy for him.
So you’re telling me no one, not even the closest people, were willing to let you prove yourself?
@@BoomboxMasterYT They were just far too angry and emotional to even consider looking at or listening to anything I had to say. I did have a couple friends who were more level headed who heard me out who I'm good with now but the vast majority refuse to speak to me even now. I'd go back and address this whole thing to them but anger turned to hatred and both those things make listening to someone hard.
@@TheHaxcast
Matters little but
Sorry for all of that
Humans tend to hate faster than love
Sorry mate
@@sbusisomanqele4318Still a sweet and much appreciated comment thank you
I genuinely hope all the best for you man
He should sue his brother and Amanda for defemation for everything they havr. Jenny is there to take care of Henry's daughter.
Just Henry, with Amandas testimony
Shred him. If Henry faces no consequences, he'll pass that kind of behavior on, and his behavior has already influenced OP's children. They need to see that actions have consequences.
As an older brother it drives me actually insane with rage seeing Henry’s actions.
There’s nothing worth more in this life than a sibling, and to see someone be so cold, so vile, to theirs, wants me to make his head an internal organ.
Between me and my brother I can’t even imagine either of us doing anything bad to each other, especially intentionally. He’s my baby brother and even though we’ve had our share of arguments the bottom line is and always will be that I would always have his back and be ready to die for him.
Hell I wouldn’t even do that to anyone, no matter how attracted I am to a woman, if she’s in a relationship (MUCH LESS A HAPPY MARRIAGE WITH TWO KIDS), there are plenty of fish in the sea and I can and have to get over it.
Sincerely, I hope Henry faces justice in this life or the next for everything he destroyed. The relationships, the futures, the YEARS OF LIFE he had taken away all for his own selfish, shallow obsession. And I hope OP’s parents face the same for having raised such a monster.
Jenny is in the wrong too, there’s absolutely no way any sane, well-adjusted person could so quickly believe strangers over her own husband.
Do you have any idea what a marriage is? It’s trust, it’s the absolute trust you need to put into a person, to love someone to the point of standing by them even if everyone else doesn’t.
As a victim of SA myself, I don't believe in any SA claim from the start. I've seen way too many people using It as an excuse, revenge plot, petty comeback, you name it. The only case I take It as true, 100% true, is with kids. The rest is a 'I can totally feel you, but you gotta show me some proof' and that is it
idk. there almost never is proof in cases of SA and false accusations are still way rarer
i think the family of the abuser should support them (assuming they are not also family of the victim) because as much as i want to hate sexual abusers, if they are truly cut off from everything then it usually only gets worse ( imagine if OP actually was a sexual abuser, i wouldn't have felt bad for him but at the same time the situation he was in definitely was not a recipe for rehabilitation or even prevention) - as in, believe them to a point; don't cut them off but ask that they get help, don't help them slander a potential victim ect..
but imagine being married to someone accused of sexual assault; it largely depends on the relationship and the person's history. as a survivor, it would be very hard for me to be with someone accused of sexual assault regardless of their innocence if it was in question because the vase majority of the time they aren't innocent - it would have to be someone i truly trusted to not have done something like that.
and if someone is coming to me as a victim I 100% believe them except in cases of obvious duplicity / or history of fabrication. I think you have a duty to someone who likely has no proof and is automatically disadvantaged in society in such a situation. This doesn't look like beating up the abuser or anything but simply if you want to be friends with the victim you must cut off the accused, if the victim needs support you provide it, ect.
obviously this will be unpopular under the story of a fabricated claim but
1. I would not be ashamed of helping Amanda if it later came out because I still did the right thing
2. If I cut off OP as a friend then it was a poor action based on Amanda's duplicity but still the right action given my history
3. If I was family or close to OP then I would have helped him get help, specifically therapy which is still positive for a victim of fabricated SA claims, without removing full support for him unless it became too triggering for me, which is *still* the fault of Amanda IMO
and, most importantly, almost every person I know personally (including myself) who has survived SA has next to no proof and also is desperate for support, and the facts given around false accusations are again that they are incredibly rare compared to the all too common case of SA.
even the text messages were fake so you can't trust those now. only way now is medical checks or video recordings.
@@bladesqueen5201i agree with you. I feel like the family was way too quick to react tho which is the main problem. They didnt let him defend himself. Like what if he had an alibi? What if the brother and amanda made a mistake along the way? nobody investigated the situation. I believe in innocent until proven guilty (unless the victim was a child)
Im mostly just confused as to how you can be with someone for that long and believe something like that so quickly? Unless she already thought that he was capable of SA or like you said, she was SA’ed in the past and it was a trigger for her.
@@bladesqueen5201
_as a survivor, it would be very hard for me to be with someone accused of sexual assault regardless of their innocence if it was in question because the vase majority of the time they aren't innocent_
I'm afraid I'm going to have to tell you that your current partner sexually assaulted my niece a few years ago. I have no proof of this, other than my very reliable word as an internet stranger, but now you know so that you can take proper actions and never again be with them.
_the facts given around false accusations are again that they are incredibly rare compared to the all too common case of SA._
No. False accusations are rife. Luckily, most of them are recognized as such at an early stage before they cause too many legal problems. But the ones making the accusations seldomly get any repercussions for their actions, despite the fact that they often do cause long-term issues for the accused even if the police never investigate them.
yea but I’m not gonna defend the person being accused of sa, either.
People truly do not underatand how much false accusations ruin lives. They ruin the lives of innocent people, destroy the bonds of friendship and familial ties. Its a disgusting thing to do to anyone, it also lowers the chance of actual SA survivors being believed. Truly just a horrible thing to do, people who falsely accuse are terrible and people who believe them without even checking the story or listening to the other side are just as bad.
The whole family can take a long walk off a short peer
With the OP as firing squad behind them.
The ex has no right to be upset that you’ve moved on if anything she should be grateful that she’s even being able to speak to you again. As if believing the lies weren’t bad enough she did you the greater disrespect of marrying your brother.
As a person who actually was assaulted, I feel like being assaulted and being falsely accused of SA is pretty much equally horrible. Im so sorry for people who have to go through either
Soooo..... Jenny only waited a year to get remarried? And to her ex's brother? Either the story is fake or Dear Jenny was cheating.
I think it's pretty clear the story is fake... I swear, the more details the story have, the more probable it is for it to be fake.
@@cheerie9654 Not at all! It's just that (in my experience with reddit stories), the more deatailed they are the bigger the probability it is to be fake. In real life stories, when people publish them on reddit, they tend to not tell their whole life, just the crucial info others need to know, and they mostly just publish it for advice or to get it off their chest. Like, for example, horror stories on reddit (those that are fake) are written in a quality that could get them published. But real horror stories tend to not have that same amount of deatail (not sure why, just a pattern that i've noticed). Just to remark, that doesn't mean THIS story is fake, but it certaintly adds to the probability. There is another reason i belive THIS story MIGHT be fake, and i didn't mention it before because i wanted to recheck it... Usually, is SA cases (especially when it goes public), it's something that goes to court and that people get persecuted for. Like, if someone publicly tells their SA story (which will definitely ruin the reputation of the perpetrator), yet they don't ever mention going to court or TRYING to, that's a red flag. It means they just want to get their public reputation ruined, as there is no other reason to publicly tell it without involving the police (unless it's for protecting others, but going to court would also do that). Again, this doesn't mean the story is fake, there is really no way to know for sure if the comenter doesn't outright say it is. But i've learned it's best to take every story from stranger on the internet with a grain of salt. I've seen many times people accusing eachother of things, only to start a war between the followers of each one... it doesn't end well, especially when it comes to light that the side i supported was the one lying. So i always reccomend people to have a little skepticism, and limit themselves to only give support/advice if needed.
@@cheerie9654 yeh, i tend to do those from time to time lol.
Story is hilariously fake
I had to scroll down way too far to find this comment. It is so fake.
That story was disgusting but im glad OP got his life back together seeing his own daughters again and starting a new family with a good woman, also Derrick is a bro
OP got lucky in a lot of areas considering what happened, I know it’s really awful shitty I know I know but what I mean is because he wasn’t working when OP’s wife filed for divorce that allowed him to get out of paying child support and alimony. I’m usually one to say men should pay child support but if you’re kicked out of your own family, yeah that’s good enough reason to not be forced to pay. Also his boss informing him he should resign is what led the courts to determine he couldn’t pay the child support, thank that boss. That boss was right too, resign before he’s forced to fire you if/when the cops come around
I heard this story on other channels, and I remember a couple conversations speculating this might have happened in Asia, probably China or India (though there are other options). It could be that the country this happened in does not do child support.
@@TwilightMysts OP mentions himself that he got out of paying child support and alimony due to being unemployed 6:30 so OP definitely lives in a country where child support exists
@@TwilightMysts op said his country had more of a lean towards woman
So it was def not china.
Men in china treat woman like actual shit
@@shoeskode136thats what i said in another comment. That he’s probably in north America
@@ngndndOr India. Courts lean incredibly towards women in gender issues here. Well intentioned, no doubt, but that only makes the misuse of laws easier.
If this story is real definitely sue the brother. The law siding with wymyn is a hell of a reach
It has a lot of the elements of classic fiction mixed with the unrealistic holes that modern tech would fill.
Shy man finds happiness. Jealous brother betrays him and bad family shun him. He falls to rock bottom by no fault of his own. Chance meeting leads to great results (even gets buff to the point of gaining 50 lbs!!!!! From stringbean to heavyweight athlete?), and the big one - bro marries ex-wife.
The hole in the story? This happened in smartphone times. He could have proven he was elsewhere during the party. If he was at the party, there'd have been witnesses who hung out with him.
"Wymyn". Dude's definitely an incel too.@@YoYo-gt5iq
@@YoYo-gt5iq you clearly haven’t experienced mob mentality. NO amount of actual proof would have convinced the parents nor Jenny.
@@YoYo-gt5iq that assumes anyone would actually listen to him, which it sounds as if they were too angry to even hear a word in his own defense, much less tech that many boomers think can just be hacked. I'm with you in thinking the story is a work of fiction though.
If someone believes you did such a thing because of a word of mouth then ditching them is the right thing to do
theyre disappointed with how op reacted because they wanted to clear their own conscience and guilt through op's forgiveness. but thats something they will need to live with forever.
I will never understand how even after everything this individual wonders if they should ruin their brother. This situation demands vengeance, the defamation lawsuit should be just the start.
It would be a lot of time, money, and effort. He'd also put some blowback onto his ex and family, and it would pretty obviously screw up any chance of reconciliation.
Fuck reconciliation. You should never think so low of your ownself that you would ever need that kind of trash around you and in your life. He needs to grind his brother down to the smallest level of dirt that he is until he attempts self deleting because he deserves nothing less. As for the family they should never be allowed around the children and he needs full custody of his children from Jenny who is not capable of taking care of them by allowing them to be in a person like Henry’s life. But that is only in a perfect world. So none of that will happen sadly 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I'm not the vengeful type. Getting back at someone makes your life dramatic, too and I would rather live in peace. There are exceptions... I would consider it here but I would have to weigh it out
Yeah nah. Fuck reconciliation and everyone that was involved would deserve the blow back. Only innocent party besides the OP is the children. Ruin that fuckers life and walk away from the wreck without looking back.
That brother is most definitely a malignant Narcissist and also highly likely Sociopathic. He's able to influence and manipulate the people around him (probably charming and communicate very well because his one-sided words and acts alone can convince the stupid enablers around him) from a very young age, never feel guilt, almost has no bottom line in morality and sense of propriety, and has been isolating OP from his parents etc from early on as well. That's how these types of people work.
SA is not something that should be used as a false weapon I myself have been a victim of SA at 9 years old and it makes me sick to my stomach knowing people like henry exist, henry is a horrible human being if he can even be morally described as a human.
Ah yes. The favorite child is believed even despite everything he's done. The OP is somehow easily accused and almost everyone believes he's guilty. And the audacity of the family to be mad at OP for not being sure if he wanted contact with them even after what had happened. What a horrible family 😒. Hopefully OP doesn't have to deal with them ever again.
As someone whose worst fear is being rejected, abandoned and forgotten, this probably wasn’t the best thing to watch. Especially with it being the second thing I watched today
Sue them blind. Take everything they have, and i mean EVERYTHING they have.
This man's practically a saint, i swear to God.
After 8 years he basically gets *the golden ticket* to revenge. Then getting contacted again by everyone that abandoned you? When i heard that i could only think of one response, a quote that sprang to mind _immediately:_
"...So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly f***ing firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the f***ing United Nations and get a f***ing binding resolution to keep me from f***ing destroying you. I am talking scorched-earth, motherf***er! I will massacre you! I will f*** you up!"
-Les Grossman, 2008
This brother has huge issues. Anything the protagonist makes, he must act taking it from him. There's no morality for what he has done.
Right. I know someone like him. He's very likely a malignant Narcissist and also Sociopathic.
The fact that the ex family has the b@lls to shame the OP for not forgiving them 💀
Mf censored balls 💀
These stories always have these good people who say “I had a group discussion, called my parents, etc etc.”
There’s not gonna be another meet up. It’s been 8 years and nobody believed me and everybody disowned me and not even nobody secretly checked in on me. Imma just tell them all to go fuck themselves.
I’m so mad two kids got mixed up in it, cus that’s the only reason why he has to stay mixed up with those monsters.
You this could be a fake as fuck story, right?
It reminds me of the temple bombing story arc in Star Wars.
Ahsoka was framed for the crime, expelled from the order, and was being tried for treason. Eventually, the true perpetrator was caught, but the damage was done.
When the council wanted to restore her into the order, she just left, seeing how corrupted it truly was.
as someone who was falsely accused of SA’ing someone this makes my blood fucking boil
As someone who was SA'd it makes my blood boil too
I hate those who lie about something so disgusting and traumatic
I mean it should irritate you more that it’s a victim fetish post and completely fake. There are several of these going around that are only slightly different.
Henry needs to be taken to court. It doesn't matter he has a child with Jenny. He caused his brother, his own blood to be disowned by the family and he also lost his both daughters. Its not something that happens and heals, 8 years he suffered from that. I would not forgive anyone that stabs you in the back that quick.
the boyfriend mark is the real mvp, sticking up for the homie he doesn't even know 😞
It’s amazing how much power a woman’s word can have with just two words she can ruin a man’s life. In most cases the law just side with the woman and the man if not cut out from his family would more than likely just go to jail the courts really need to take an account some men do this but most men don’t. In many cases these men are falsely imprisoned by women who feel they are wrong by them searches and breaking up or not going out with them and Coates will take this as much as in this man up to jail and if not that is name will be Tarnished and ruined forever
There was no police investigation here, it wasn't the law, it was his family and friends that sided with her. If a police investigation had been done then the fake texts would have been fund out
Anybody's word. They'll always believe the accuser, particularly if the victim was a golden child and the accusee was more of the scapegoat in the family. That happened to me.
Later on, if proven false, they'll wonder why you don't just forgive everybody in sight and move on like nothing happened (some therapists will even pull that crap). I consider the remaining anger the reminder that one's family is trash and must never be trusted again.
There was actually a similar case on an RSpace video where a guy got assaulted because he exposed his SIL for cheating and even though there was security footage and he had scratch marks on his face,the police gave him that Futurama fry stare and asked "are you sure you want to press charges?" Talk about equality lmao
@@BronzeDragon133 the golden child wasn't the accuser here though. It was a woman he used
@@dc3747 Pretty sure it's called the fluoride stare.
See, he’s much better than me. Because if someone, let alone my own sibling, really ruined my life that badly? I would’ve probably actually gone to jail for murder. Because fine, ruin my life.. Just means I’ve got nothing else to lose
Lucky for Henry OP had Kim and Dereck
@@Dustin81 Very
@@Dustin81If OP didnt have Kim and Dereck he might not have made it to that point to even found out the truth. Amanda would have to live with the fact that she caused that which she was already afraid of revealing it so it might never have came out. Also OP's daughters would never have known their real dad and also everyone would still believe he was a bad person then.
I mean. If I know someone his entire life, wouldnt it be wise to give him the benefit of the doubt??? Uhmm parents? No gut feeling???
Unfortunately the early 2000s was the start of this crazy girl power feminism.
Actually, women falsely accusing men already existed for a very long time. Remember Emmett Till?
It's just recently it has become mainstream as social media allowed crazy women to validate themselves and form echo chambers
I mean the parents had always favoured OP's brother so it actually makes sense they believed him first... But Jenny, Jenny the f*ck is wrong with you? How do you trust your husband's brother over him without proof and with the likely hood of knowing the fact he's always been favoured and OP and him likely don't have the BEST relationship (maybe not awful before this but there'd still be some resentment)
Pardon me for flat out copying my story from above. Same happened to me, but I got slightly lucky. It was from a cousin who lied constantly about everything, so the fallout was...controllable. Somewhat. And in response to him trying to get out of a DUI charge where he didn't want to have his urine tested weekly. My own mother questioned me (she now wonders why I radiantly don't give a crap about her any longer). His parents instantly believed him until they needed stuff from me and can't seem to figure out why the word "No" is a knee-jerk reaction. The cousin offed himself when he went off his psych meds and figured more booze and drugs would do just as well.
I do confess to sitting in the back of the funeral and thoroughly enjoying it. I am not a perfect person.
My family's trash. Rich trash, but trash.
To expand a little with another concept I used, it's the case where the cousin was the golden boy of the narcissists. Why, I can't say. He was always in trouble, substance abuse problems, stole things, thrown out of high school in tenth grade, and so on. Never had a stable job.
I was the scapegoat of the entire family. Again, no real reason. Model student, graduated Ivy League, good career, I currently do medical audits for a gigantic company and my job requires ridiculously high levels of ethics and attention to detail.
My parents were/are both narcissists. My childhood was...let's not go there. At this point, I'm no contact with a lot of the family and very low contact with my mother. My husband does more of that by necessity. She really doesn't have anything nice to say to anybody.
(Shrug) It is what it is. I won't meet her eventual death with anything but a shrug and a bit of mourning for what should have been, and none at all for what she actually was.
These people are def from ohio
@@queerdeificeeli985What makes it even more baffling is the fact that she KNEW that Herry already had an obsession with her. She really didn't even think twice about it when his husband got framed, and then actually went on to marry his brother?! Like, at this point I feel like she just wanted to be with the brother so she just went along with the story without questioning it.
I love how the friend after getting the news basically went “does the government think your a criminal?” And that’s the only part he cares about because it seemed like he didn’t really believe the allegations that he was told about unless there was actual proof
The way he refers to his parents as Henry's parents nearing the end shows how far above he had to rise to endure this betrayal
I heard of this story before and I heard that it was faked. Two redditors posted the story. The first redditor deleted it and it seems that the other one did it as well. Though the first redditor could've been real, but I don't know.
There are people who take original stories and write a better "update" which is sad. The first one may have been the real one
Could be. It's not like these things don't happen IRL. One lady got a man sent to jail because she dreamt he raped her.
She recanted decades later. Classy lady. Real classy.
@@BronzeDragon133I remember that one. She wrote a book about it.
@@coldermanSo not only did she falsely accuse and ruin a man's life.....but she also decided to make money off of his despair?! Wtf kinda hell are we living in?
@@noobslayer6915 Would you really like an answer to that particularly dystopic question? The world caters to the narcissistic and the loud.
one thing ive learned over the course of my life is that bad people need to be punished. if they arent they will destroy everything they come in contact with. sue his ass.
Scorched earth would be too kind for these kind of people.
OP needs to go to the tabloids and just destroy them completely.
Forgiveness is just a word in a fantasy story - Destroy, dismantle and decimate those who seek to do harm to you.
Destroy the brothers life. Give him exactly what he gave you. Show no mercy. Make sure no one hires him or even looks in his direction.
God this is awful. The thing that really makes me so angry is I guarantee they all knew he was innocent. They knew he was innocent yet they drove him out all the same. When SA ACTUALLY happens, the perpetrator is always favoured, but when it comes to a false accusation it magically gets believed. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
He should most definitely go scorched earth on the brother. I would. The only reason Id spare Amanda is bc she came clean and did everything I asked her to do. Family can kiss my ass too. Every year id send a pic of my new family in a holiday card made out of the Letter of disownment
Yeah, also the reason I would spare Amanda is because without her confession, you moat likely don't have a case.
@@noobslayer6915Kill her once all is said and done. She'd outlive her usefulness.
@@noobslayer6915 nah scorch earth her,if shes wasn't so spineless and morally corrupt this guys life wouldn't of been torched into nothing,glad her husband left her.
@@noobslayer6915 Nah she took too long to come clean. For all anyone knew, OP could have self deleted by the time she said anything.
@@Dustin81 Well, he sent texts on his daughters birthdays, so they could tell he was still alive if they wanted to check.
If it were me, I would not have done that. Bridge burned, zero contact. But in that situation I would leave the region, put hundreds of miles between us, change my name, new phone number, stop using any social media, put some work into changing my appearance (possibly even plastic surgery to change my face if I had the money). Everything I could to make sure that the person they knew no longer existed, and they could not find me. Probably work with a PI to make it as effective as possible. And as vindictive as I would probably feel in that situation, there is a good chance that I would try doing something to convince them I canceled my subscription to the mortal realm. I'd likely work with a lawyer (to make sure it was legal) and a PI (to make it convincing.) You burn me that badly and you don't get a second chance. If they did some how discover that I was innocent, they wouldn't be able to find me, and they would not even have a reason to try since they would think I was gone.
The first thing to do was to call cops on amanda at the moment when she said he SA'd her. She would have pissed her pants and told the truth.
@@cladaes9127I agree. Things turned out for the better. Ironically, Amanda demonstrated Jenny's lack of faith in her own husband.
Gotta give props to Amanda's ex-BF who convinced her to confess. Dude is a chad, helping another brother eventhough they're strangers.
Honestly, no punishment is too severe for all of them, not just his brother but the ex-wife and his parents too. What they did is absolutely inexcusable when there was no proof of SA
Simple: go nuclear, take them for everything they have. OP has enough to press charges. Ghost them afterwards, they have no place in OP's life.
Derek and James did more for OP than his own parents, brother, and ex-wife. Those dudes deserve to be called OP's family.
I have to give a hand to Amanda's boyfriend! He didn't know OP, but he held his girlfriend accountable and forced the truth to come out! 👏👏👏
This is a great example of, “There is always two sides to a story.”
I hate people who just make up some SA story about themselves and the other person is instantly blamed because people will always believe the “victim”.
Sue them for libal, defamation, character assassination and everything else you can.
My heart hurts for op. Loosing his family after trusting his brother despite knowing he shouldnt..the betrayal cuts deep. It mustve been hell for him to loose his girls like that. Im a bit happy that amanda got her karma, to think she wouldnt even consider coming out to tell the truth until her bf/ex forced it out of her.. i hope op gets the closure he needs and lives happily with his new family and friends.
Kim is by far the best woman I’ve heard of in this story ❤
Ruin him, ruin him so badly that his new name will be Sodom. He doesn't deserve any mercy. He's had more than enough. Karma's a bitch? Then let him feel that.
Why did nobody beat up the brother and amanda but only op? They clearly hate him
I hate to disappoint but also a little happy to say the story is fake. I went onto reddit to fins any updates and only found people discussing how the story is basically a copy paste with a few tweaks. One that is posted every other month.
That's a relief. But if it's been copy pasted, it might be true originally, with people reinventing it for clout.
Mark deserved better glad he left Amanda
Take them all to court and rip them off everything. Then go on with your life for the better.
You could sue him for blackmail and making a sexual harassment charge, which is a serious crime name, the girl and him in 60 years of jail time like I’m not even kidding that’s a serious crime like you could ruin him
This proves that karma will come. It may not be when you want it it may feel like forever, but it will. Im so happy for him and wish him and his family nothing but the best!
Battery, assualt, harrasment, criminal defamation AND false evidence? Lawyer up and take each and every single one of them to court
Kim is the real queen 👑
He needs to proceed with the lawsuit against his brother, that's way too much to just let go and if he was smart he would go through with it, otherwise he's no better than his ex-parents in this manner for dismissing the golden child.
His actions should land him in jail, Skanky(jenny) can raise her unfortunate spawn of Henry alone like she did with his two daughters.
Bury your brother and ex wife with a defamation suit you lost everything because of their selfishness, the fact that they have a child together shouldn't dissuade you from seeking justice for the years of trauma that re still with you to this day. They turned your life upside down and cost you your family your children and your friends group your career and your mental health. They deserve to pay for what they have done
With how readily the ex believed the lie, she was probably in on it. Might want to check if they are actually your daughters
I would have sued for defamation and false evidence
Nah I would’ve ruined his brother’s life without hesitation
Like how do you just ruin a life and expect nothing bad to happen?!
And how could you believe a fake accusation that fast about the man you married and had kids with?? Seriously it just sounds like he’s the only smart person in his family
The fact that she didn’t even think to question it. I’m not saying make excuses, but if someone accused my partner of SA, I’d take them to the police station. That way there was a full investigation. There are too many cases that aren’t resolved because of the fact they don’t go to the cops, and shit like this is the opposite end of it
This was so heartbreaking omg. This man is so strong because me personally I would be out for blood
The audacity of Jenny to think she is entitled to a hug from OP smh, it was very satisfying when OP held his hands up to stop her and then introduced Kim
And when she started to cry is if I was op I would started just laughing at her....
they had no evidence he did anything and took another persons side anyway. They neglected and beat him, disowned him and helped ruin his life and they think themselves entitled to his politeness? His forgiveness? Worthless trash, at least OP didn't grow old with them; that's the silver lining to this tar black cloud.
He needs to wait until jenny divorces henry and then go for a defamation suit. Screw. Him. Over.
Bro this is fake af 😂😂😂 I have seen at least 6 versions of this story from different guys
After hearing the whole story I'm surprised your mother did not sue with what the f****** hell out at daycare center.
“The Asian in her.” 😭😭 crying as a Korean American lmaooo
100% the OP should sue Henry, he deserves to rot in hell
How hard is it to remember innocent until proven guilty