After getting into an argument with my narcissistic mother and sustaining narcissistic abuse, the next day I had a severe panic attack. Following there after each day, I would have one severe panic attack a day. I couldn't seem to control my thoughts, I just had this fighting feeling inside me of holding my breath and not wanting to breathe. My therapist told me I was going into freeze mode, just as animals do when they're in danger around a predator. I thought she hit the nail on the head. I finally put together after all this time that it was my narc mother who caused me to have panic attacks over all these years.
@@KOOLBadger good. My mom is so unpleasant to talk to in so many ways. She always finds some way to stain the convo with her toxic, poisonous negativity. I just kind of don't have a choice now coz I'm living with her. Will be moving out soon for a job thankfully.
@paul9544, Jen here from Team Lyon. When we grow up with unkind, abusive, and unattained caregivers, our nervous system often learns to live in survival mode, and in anitipeation of threat. This can certainly cause feelings of panic and freeze, as you mentioned has been the case with you. I'll link to a few of Irene's related resources in case you'd like to learn more. What is an anxiety attack? - ua-cam.com/video/S2hT3Qp62mE/v-deo.html Functional Freeze Explained - ua-cam.com/video/-qPCzzn-uQA/v-deo.html DIY: Anxiety Anxiety Medicine (a practice you can try when feeling stressed or noticing the first signs of a panic attack) - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
I used to suffer from “acid reflux” for years (2001-2003) (2009-2019). It had gotten so bad at certain points that I had to be rushed to the hospital. When I found out that this was from me being in flight, fight, or freeze for years everything started making sense. I’m in therapy right now and it’s very intense as I have to dissect everything from childhood until recently. I’m at a point where I can notice my body getting tense, anxious, tired, etc. and identify the trigger (right now it’s my job) and can calm myself down. I’m still not out of the woods yet as I’m not where I want to be in life, but I’ll be there as long as I continue to do the work one step at a time.
Same here. The reflux so hard it is making me cough sometimes...taking omeprasol is not really helpful. And yes, previous traumas and abuse on the list...
I am 56, I started with stomachaches around 1989. Later, found out it was "acid reflux" and I suffered from it for many years. I went to hospital many times because the pain was unbearable! Had hair loss, fatigue, migraines very often. In 2010 colapsed, found a therapist and here I am, much better. Aggressive mother, made my childhood and youth a hell and my father was a covert narcissist. My body stored everything!!! Sad...but at last!
It showed up in my body as breast cancer. It took me two years to release my pent up hurt, anger, and feelings of being insignificant, but boy was it worth it. I could feel the complete change in My heart, soul and body once I let go and began seeing myself as amazing and having a new beautiful understanding of all life. I am now able to see the value in all life's lessons and have finally stopped punishing myself for my past and live in the present moment with anticipation instead of dread! My cancer disappeared completely. My tumors shrunk without treatment and are completely gone. I only received treatment for 6 months and decided to stop 18 months ago. My recent blood showed my cancer cell count below the normal range. Work on your head, heart and soul for the best results. Your Inner Source can take it from there💖
Thankyou for sharing your story.. I've recently recovered from bladder cancer and 100% feel it is due to years of suppressed emotions.. Can you share what you did to release those emotions? I always feel that I'm never quite doing enough and it is still inside me🙏🏼
@@finitobonito ....I had to start by educating myself on how we manifest anything which is always thru our beliefs supported by our emotions. Those beliefs and emotions can be changed to match what we actually desire in our lives. Two wonderful teachers for me are Tom Kearin, Be Something Wonderful; and Abraham thru Esther Hicks. They will help you to recognize emotions and responses that are negatively affecting you and how to release what you no longer need or want. Be patient, it can take a while for issues to come to the surface and when they do, thank them for teaching you lessons learned and decide to let them go. There are many wonderful teachers on Utube who understand the principles of shifting yourself into a new understanding about our beautiful 3D lives. I listen to their videos everyday to keep reaffirming what I have come to understand about the laws of assumption and attraction. It feels so great to understand how YOU create your own world. Dr. Joe Dispenza, MD, phD, explains the whole process by teaching how the mind and body react to everything we put into our consciousness. Have fun with it because it's easier to shift when you are happy with yourself! Enjoy the process!🥰
This is so true. I cannot necessarily say I was suffering from sone past trauma but my work environment was so toxic my stomach would be in knots every morning and I ended up developing piles from anxiety. A few months after I quit the job all the symptoms disappeared. I slept better, the piles healed themselves and the anxiety just melted away. It's incredible how my body reacted to how unhappy I was feeling.
For anyone who'se interested, I had the energy of shock stuck in my brainstem from early childhood abuse. It took a gifted cranio/sacral therapist to release it with her hands! Made a lot of difference. Also released shock from my bones.
I have shock too in musculoskeletal most certainly. I can lose conciousness stubbing my toe although i have a ridiculously high pain threshold. I feel my congenital brain malformation (chiari type) was due to shock trauma in the womb. A car accident led to premature birth at 7 months. I was seemingly OK outwardly if a little solemn and had a rich internal world. Docs thought I was a loon for raising it after devastating changes due to fall affecting sacrum ( I have had bladder, kidney, nerve issues all my life) and whiplash type neck injury. I understood the somatic elements and like you cranio sacral techniques and understanding cranial nerves and functions helped with the stress of misdiagnosis & medical gaslighting. Releasing the latter was harder than living with the "conditions "😅
I was born in a narcissistic cult-like family dynamic and I had a very narcissistic “best friend” as well. All parties involved drained me. I dealt with anxiety since 15 and developed ulcerative colitis in 2016. Thankfully, I recovered from from the UC in 2021. And I’m still working through anxiety, but I am in a very good place. I had to cut off my entire family system and friend group due to so much overwhelming stress. Thanks for making this video as very few are talking about this topic! All they want to do is give you predisone, which isn’t treating the cause.
Severe panic attacks while driving, conversing with a group of strangers or public speaking 😅. When your violent/mentally ill mother as a pre-teen (5 - 12) regularly knocks you hard on the head, regularly whips you or punches you hard like you’re an adult, fist punches or severely abuses you if you don’t do chores her way or speak out personal opinions. Either her way or you get beat up bad. Without realizing there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Childhood traumas definitely bubbles up & people react differently to similar circumstances.
@percubit10, Jen here from Team Lyon. This sounds really challenging. I did want to let you know that may of us who are drawn to Irene's work had some rough experiences growing up, and live with anxiety, depression, and other symptoms as a result. We do find that there is hope - when we learn to understand and work with the nervous system in this way that Irene teaches, in time we can create healing and new ways of being that open the doors to new and different possibilities. I hope you find some info here that helps you move in that direction, if that's something you want.
@@IreneLyon I stopped taking care of myself. Bad teeth and don't care about my grooming. Lost two brothers one to drugs and one to suicide. My mom belittles me all the time that I am not successful. I spent years in a career doing IT work. She expects so much and gives me guilt trips all the time. To add insult to injury, Our lifestyles are pretty fucked up. Never celebrate anything, Never have any fun or leisure it's all serious and all about work and money. I used to say what about play. Playtime. That is so foreign to her. I like to travel and adventure and explorations. These ideas are so strange to her, I never understand.
@@percubit10self love and discipline will help a lot, along with meditation and prayer. Don't take what she says seriously, it's only projections and stealing your energy. Take regular Epson salt baths ☯️
Hi percubit. I would check out anointed fire UA-cam channel on narcissistic people, like parents or relationships. Tiffany really goes into depth about why people choose to be this why and what you can do about it so that it doesn’t affect your life. It’s really a spiritual battle at the end. Stay strong and God bless!
I am totally stressed due to finacial abuse . I am totally broke and it is freaking me out … I never have been so in trouble financially. It has totally incapacitated me , making me even worse off!
I am with you I live with my mother in law after my sister died of cancer ,he had recurring cancer him self I am greatful heroes help with the major things but no money to do things I need to for myself.
@@lisaperkins7807, So many in the same boat now. Not enough for basic expenses, food or supplements/medicine...... Extreme stress !!!!! We all need to pray to make ends meet !!!
This is definitely true… AND…. not always the case. Some people have lyme disease , Crohns, EBV, allergies , hormonal issues, the list goes on. AND - the emotions part , if not the cause, can certainly exacerbate it
I spent 12 days suffering from a anal abcess and fistula that needed immediate treatment. The surgeon took it upon herself to say the severe pain I was experiencing was somaform illness. No cat scan nothing. I spent 11 days being ridiculed, ignored in my 4 ambulance visits to hospital until I started to bleed rectslly and they rushed me to OR. I'm guessing that surgeon decided to be a psychiatrist. And now I have her reported to the medical board. In addition reported 3 teams of paramedics who ridiculed me.
The last time I had to go to the hospital was the last time...they treated me like 💩. I'll never go back, unless I'm unconscious. They used to be compassionate and effective. I don't know if they're over worked, if covid had an affect on the system...but I do know that they didn't treat me like a human being. I would never put myself through that again.
@earthsign7568 the crazy part a *surgeon*suddenly has the expertise to dx a abcess and fistula as anxiety producing extreme pain and send me on my way with no referral to anxiety doctor. Yup someone is incompetent as heck.
You're lucky they didn't commit you and force you to become addicted to multiple medications against your will. That she reality for many women who "complain" about things like this. Heckin ridiculous. Sorry for what you went thru.
@@braverisingwithamanda pretty much. I had a bad neck injury as a kid that never got addressed, and it turned into it over time after multiple other injuries. I was completely cut off/unaware of my own body that added to mental dissociation when started smoking weed
Don't want to recommend anything controversial but I have found psilocybin helpful in breaking some mental & emotional barriers, processing etc. It is being studied more thoroughly & showing lots of promise for aiding in trauma healing..
Thanks had go dr get meds do not want take them but getting to point can not deal with journeys exhausted been 5 years just making me more angry then healing witch not good
I can concur. Before starting therapy, I attended medicine ceremonies with peyote and ayahuasca (among other things) to deal with what I recognized as trauma, but didn't understand was actually CPTSD. The peyote really helped me to see and love myself, which was the perfect foundation to do more heavy work. Psilocybin has been crucial in my therapy as I have an intention to see what my damaged ego is hiding from me and can't see it otherwise. Therapy is wrapping all this up for me and I feel it's crucial as well, because to navigate the subconscious and damaged aspects of the psyche requires a navigator who knows these realms well. I have a myriad of autoimmune diseases that started in childhood. As it stands now, I've completely eliminated symptoms from a few diseases while greatly diminishing symptoms of others. I look forward to total healing.
@@TheForestCrone Where is this kind of treatment in America? All shrinks have done for a decade thrown antidepressants at me, I'm standing on the edge of a cliff 😢
@@thewatchers5930 Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry! Step away from the edge! See if you're in a state where ONAC has a branch for ceremony (Oklevueha Native American Church) if you're interested in a different approach. Keep your mind open about AD's, I used Wellbutrin for 15 years tp get through the work that I needed to do psychologically. There really is an answer, it's just up to you to find it. Don't give your power away to others bc you're a badass and you can figure this out! Love to you.
I spent 4 years bedridden with fibromyalgia which I now understand as the mind's way of giving you physical pain so you wont have to deal with your emotional/mental/spiritual issues. Like some who wrote below, I now view pain as a messenger who helps me glean answers I need from my self. Thank you for talking about this.
I did an EFT zoom session last night with several students and practitioners. We focused on allergies. People were able to be free from life threatening allergies after treating their trauma 😊
I have experienced this myself. I have eczema brought on due to stress. 'Hay fever' is only brought on when I'm stressed. I have had eczema clear when avoiding certain people. I used to think I had issues with food. When in fact it was trauma based.
How can I join one of those sessions? I have multiple chronic health issues and food intolerances that I think were brought on by severe trauma in my childhood
I grew up in a very unpredictable household with an alcoholic father. I struggled with generalized anxiety disorder and panic disorder for 10 years before I believe that turned into Ulcerative Colitis (a disease of the bowel). Since getting diagnosed, I realized my symptoms get worse when dealing with stressful events that remind me of my childhood. And they relieve themself after sorting through and releasing my suppressed emotions in a healthy way (like crying).
It’s so hard😭I have this Stay away from toxic people, nobody will help you, they will run you around creating more trauma stress judging you work on calming yourself Even the medical industry
Don't forget adrenal glands. One they go "all-out" you can tap into rage or at least constant frustration whenever your natural cortisol rises. Like after coffee or when too hungry, or when obviously - you get triggered. Trauma and hormones are key, not only the nervous system. Depending on the severity of it ofc but if its really bad they id say the hormonal imba is worse than the nervous system side. "Luckily" i had a first hand experience. Trust me.
It’s a struggle being a single mom of 3 children 😢 I get no assistance no child support and no emotional support my job doesn’t even pay well to survive 😢glad I found this Chanel ❤
I had awful stomach aches almost daily from 4th grade all the way through 6th grade. We looked at allergies and I went through plenty of different procedures, but ultimately nothing was found that would have been causing them. It only just occurred to me a couple years ago that my stomach pains may have been a result of some sort of subconscious anxieties. 4th grade was the same year I developed a bad dermatillomania habit, which I hear can be a symptom of OCD (not that I think I have OCD, but that is an anxiety-related disorder). The pain also flared up anytime I went to sleepovers for some unknown reason. The stomach aches seemed to disappear as I got older and moved through puberty. Although to this day, if I am - for example- packing before a long stay somewhere, I may not feel all that stressed or anxious in my brain. But my stomach will start to churn and ache as I pack. Then I’ll think of how I should be packing instead of laying down from stomach pain - which only prolongs the aching! Our brain-body relationships are so strange.
@omgsicle, Jen here from Irene's team. It sounds like you're making some important connections between your symptoms and underlying nervous system responses. You mentioned, dermatillomania. It sounds like this may something in your past, and I'll share a link to a video Irene did on the (general) topic in case you want to further investigate the links between your nervous system and your experience. The connection between skin picking, OCD, and stored trauma - irenelyon.com/2021/07/11/the-connection-between-skin-picking-ocd-and-stored-trauma/
I'm adopted, and I don't know when I was told this, or my reaction to this; but I do know that as a child I was angry alot and felt alone. My adopted mum had another baby when I was 8 1/2 months old, and was in hospital for 3weeks after a difficult delivery. I didn't stop crying the whole time she was away, and until I started to walk, so I believe that alot of my illness is from my early start in life. Even though It didn't start until I became pregnant and became a T1 diabetic, then lots of other illnesses developed.
@amandapryar4675, Jen here from Irene's Team. Early developmental trauma, which includes things that happen to us in utero and as infants, can have a major impact on how we develop and go on to live our lives. The good news is that we now know that there's a lot we can to do grow nervous system regulation and support healing later in life. I'll link to a video out early developmental trauma in case that's of interest, and also to an interview Irene did with Seth Lyon, her husband and colleague, about his journey. Healing our resistance to making money, exercising, & living in the matrix with Seth Lyon - irenelyon.com/2023/02/08/healing-in-a-toxic-culture-with-seth-lyon/ Q&A w/ Irene, Seth, & Janice. Special focus on healing early & developmental trauma - ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
Wow. Let me start by saying ... me too. I was an unwanted pregnancy and a "bad" baby. I was fussy and cried a lot. I have had anxiety for as long as a remember, as a toddler. I would cry uncontrollably if I thought I did something wrong or got in trouble. Needless to say my mind and body are destroyed after 53 years and I have been in therapy for 33 years
Listening to your video reminds of my own trauma from an automobile crash and I use all of these tools to heal myself and facilitating ease in my body and help transmute my pain from my fractures and stuffering migraines from a healed neck injury. With medical interventions and using these tools of meditation and visualization to help me. I know that being Creative Arts Therapists,I'm so aware of shifting and help others to transmute both emotional & physical freezes that exists from within. Thank you for bringing in this 'footnote ' of how the trauma is stored in our bodies. ✨️
Irene I could have used this information 47 years ago to help stem and reverse what my wife was subjected to, I could have made better informed and wiser, more responsible decisions jointly with her. Her family was a den of narcissism and inequity.
For some reason this caught my eye and struck a nerve. I have been trying to figure out for years the chronic pain I have. It is mysterious. I have crippling pain that pops up in various parts of my body. The pains usually come and go every day. At barely 14, both of my parents drowned. I have systematically lost all of my extended family...just one loss after the other. Thank Jesus I have my 2 sons! Sometimes I feel like I've never fully grieved or healed, but hadn't heard of the possibility of stored trauma. It makes sense.
@lindahandley5267, Jen here from Irene's Team. I'm really sorry to hear about how much loss you've experienced in your life. It may definitely be worth exploring the connection between what you've been through and the chronic pain you experience. If you haven't yet watched Irene's free Healing Trauma video series, you might check it out as it can often be pretty illuminating. Here's a link: free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
@@indigokid7565 That's so sweet of you. It happened many decades ago and thanks to my mother's family, my brother and i were well-taken care of and loved. Hold onto your family. They're are so important. Take good care of yourself!🌹
I developed Rheumatoid Arthritis the same year I lost both parents and also learned my deceased husband had been unfaithful. I am sure it came on as a result of that high emotional stress.
@donnapatrick6793. sorry to hear about all the losses that you went through in a short span of time. That's a lot to hold. I hope you find some education and resources on Irene's channel that shead some light on the connection between your physical symptoms and what you went through, and that feels supportive to you. - Jen from Irene's Team
When I feel anxious around people I get pain on the lower left side of my back. When I would feel mad or stressed out I would get stomach aches. I agree that body pain is associated with my thoughts.
A few "puzzle pieces" just came together: our brain needs to have feelings be "activated"/accessed in order for it to "open" the "window of reconsolidation" (maybe not even memories, but at least the feeling), and also, I'm remembering the AMAZING book "In an Unspoken Voice" by Peter Levine (It's SO MUCH BETTER than "When the Body Keeps the Score") where he speaks of going through the same physical motions the body went through during the time of the shocking event/trauma. So, yeah, we need to integrate the body AND the feeling in order to integrate the shift in both the body AND the mind. Ideally, we'd be like an animal and tremble our trauma away (like an animal shakes when terrified, and which we sometimes do. It is to be ENCOURAGED and NOT stopped but we've trained ourselves out of it)
I used to be in a toxic relationship. I really always felt like subconsciously that I could not please the other person if I was just being "myself". So that's why I had to disconnect from myself and I didn't even know that I was doing that. After 6 years I still have chronic pain in my body because of this. It has kind of become normal, even though I know it's not normal. But I am trying to see the positive aspects in all of this, how this situation actually helps me to reconnect with myself and with my truth again.
@ninaduschek9267, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's uplifting to hear about the way you're finding ways that your situation is helpful you to reconnect with yourself and your truth again. Reconnecting with oneself is actually very aligned with this nervous system work as it has a lot to do with teaching us to connect with our authenticity and to live more from this place of alignment. I'll link to a related message from Irene in case you want to check it out. A 2023 message from Irene: RE-INVIGORATE YOUR BIRTHRIGHT!! - ua-cam.com/video/HJfZZB7mqQo/v-deo.html
Through a shift in focused awareness we can notice the connection between a thought and our experience of our nervous system (which we interpret as a feeling, emotion). I see this process in our energy fields.
Great video, and thank you. I learned over many years that my illnesses (fibro, systemic sclerosis, etc.) were from many past life traumas. The symptoms that were coming up were from stored, old energy that was ready to be cleared and healed once and for all. I have been consciously clearing this for over 16 years now. I have gotten better, slowly, over the years. I hope to write about my healing journey to help others in the future. God and the support of my husband has truly has gotten me through this.
Please pay attention with those chakras stuff. it is a dangerous spiritual practice connected to these "new age" spirituality which seems nice at the beginning but opens doors we should not open (sorry for my english)
I suffered with asthma, endometriosis, migraines and an underactive thyroid. The onlybthing i suffer with today as of July 2023 is a little bit of asthma. Thw migraines were healed when i received Holy Communion ON THE TONGUE at the Fr Joseph K Bill 6 Day Silent Retreat in Ireland in Newry in 2006 (on youtube). Long story but God heals
Someone made a comment about something I shared in a meeting at work and I felt angry and invalidated. That evening my left shoulder suddenly hurt enough I wondered if I was having a heart attack. My shoulder to my fingers and back were excruciatingly painful for four months. Multiple medical tests found nothing.
Do you think your body was upset because you didn’t share your thoughts right then and there, in the meeting? It sounds like you just absorbed the other person’s cruel comment, but didn’t feel able to respond in your own defense. That’s something I’m still working on myself: speaking up immediately, instead of just quietly internalizing rudeness from others. It’s not easy, but it’s much worse to keep taking people’s crap silently
This makes so much sense. I had a pelvic tumor the size of a cantaloupe I had no idea I had and my surgeon was like how was you in zero pain you should of been agonizing pain. Didn't feel a thing. But that was because I also went to reiki and my reiki master found it. And the fibromyalgia I think really disguised that I felt the fibromyalgia more than the tumor.
Severe brain fog, HS also can be a symptom of your body always being at fight or flight mode. So you body’s immune system is above what is normal to try and protect your whole self becuz you are constantly fearful.
@emmamonroe3311, Jen here from Irene's Team. Yes, for sure high sensitivity and other forms or chronic pain and illness can be symptoms of the body being in survival mode. This is the crux of Irene's teachings. I'll link to a few related resources in case you want to check them out. An Epidemic of Chronic Illness: How Stress, Trauma & Adversity Early in Life Impacts Our Capacity to Heal - irenelyon.com/2017/02/03/epidemic-chronic-illness-stress-trauma-adversity-early-life-impacts-capacity-heal/ A Field Guide to Your Nervous System - irenelyon.com/field-guide-to-your-nervous-system
I agree with this. I believe I had trauma as a child, and grew up with lots of conditions, which eventually became life threatening. I had systemic parasitic infection that nearly wiped out my white blood cells. The earliest emotional trauma I experienced was when I was about 4 years old. At 40 years old, I finally understood the nature of the conditions I had and started a long 10 year journey to clear out the parasites, normalise the functions of my body's organs and systems and clear out the trauma. I did all this with lots and lots of plants and plant derivatives like essential oils.
Thankyou, this is just rhe information I needed to read tonight I have been overwhelmed with stress for most of my life after early repetitve trauma, iits such a relief to be able to understand these were normal responses from my bpdy to percieved threat when I was a child. I am so grateful for you for your work Thankyou from my heart to yiurs❤️
I have MS and chronic hypersomnia, and some mental health issues. I saw working with a counsellor recently and she mentioned the link being explored between adverse childhood events/experiences (ACEs), of which I had many, and MS. I came across this video when I was looking up more information on it, and it was very interesting, thank you.
@trala8911, great to hear that you found this video to be helpful. Another video came to mind reading your post, so I'll share that too, along with a link to Irene's free Healing Trauma video training which might be of interest as well. Trouble losing weight? Got an addiction? (Origins of *The ACE Study*) - irenelyon.com/2015/10/14/origins-of-ace-study/ free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma - Jen from Team Lyon
I'm working on all of this now. My older sister has many autoimmune and digestive issues and keeps having surgeries which never help. When i try to speak with her about these issues she gets upset with me- "you're not a doc or therapist, stop being condescending, etc" i know i can't force it and when i have tiptoed toward the subject i have been incredibly gentle and only when she is bringing up the subject. Anyway, I'm so afraid of having info to point her toward (bc of my own severe issues and desperately searching for an answer) that could help or even save her and not getting it to her. I hope all of this becomes mainstream very very soon for our entire species. she did mention cptsd to her therapist who agreed so maybe that will fruit
I would like to point out... all of the illnesses she mentioned can and do occur WITHOUT traumatic issues. By not stating this... she is contributing to the "it is all in your head" problems many have to suffer through before getting REAL MEDICAL HELP. A patient trying to get medical help with a rare medical condition is hard enough without this type of theory being used to discredit the very real chronic illness and pain people are suffering with.
Why doesn't Gabor, or people like her mention Alice Miller's wonderful work which Gabor's stands on the shoulders of, including her book The Body Never Lies: the lingering effects of cruel parenting. All her other books are equally interesting and relevant.
@sekischro5093, Chronic fatigue syndrome, or CFS, and severe brain fog can often go hand in hand. Generally speaking, learning to work with the nervous system to heal trauma and grow regulation often helps with CFS symptoms over time. Irene has a video about Adrenal Fatigue, and what she discusses there also applies to CFS. The freeze response is also often in the picture with both CFS and brain fog, so I'll share some links to where you can learn more about that too. The 2 Little Known Stages of Adrenal Fatigue and What You Can Do to Fix It - irenelyon.com/2015/12/10/adrenal-fatigue/ How to come out of a chronic freeze response after repeated stress & trauma - irenelyon.com/2022/08/24/how-to-come-out-of-a-chronic-freeze-response-after-repeated-stress-trauma/ - Jen from Team Lyon
As a health coach, what I tell my clients is to start with the main pillars of health and then work outward. In other words, don't worry about whether or not gut issues, for example, are causing your symptoms if you have if don't have a solid foundation of health (i.e. the pillars). This method of getting rid of illness is quicker, essier, and less overwhelming. The pillars are water, sleep, food, stress reduction, exercise, good mental health, and social interaction. (I'm assuming you don't drink excessively or smoke.) So, when you ask about how to get rid of your symptoms, are you living a health lifestyle and don't not why you have the symptoms, or do some of the areas I mentioned need improvement?
Yoga Sutras refer to stored trauma as Latent Impressions. I do like this wording. It keeps objectivity at hand. Spending time in the witness state helps with discrimination. Be Well
I just subscribed to your channel! This is me all the way! I have chronic health problems due to 9 years of childhood trauma, sexual abuse by a stepfather. My mother is also a manipulative Narcissist, so there’s that… My health problems got way worse after getting Covid 2.5 years ago, but I can see a trend where I was sick for decades even before. Never clicked until recently that the root cause of my symptoms was from trauma! Gut issues,(leaky gut), Asthma diagnosed at age 40,(never had Asthma before!) food allergies/ histamine intolerance, brain fog, severe mood swings, anxiety, anger, stress. Thank you for this! I’ll be looking forward to watch your other videos. ❤
@leannshort2211, Jen here from Irene's Team. Great to hear that so much clicked when you found her channel! Since it sounds like you're new around here, you might check out Irene's New Here? page. Here's a link: irenelyon.com/new-here/
Yes! I’m finally coming to this conclusion re my core childhood mother wound is demanding I feel it process it abd then my chronic injury etc will dissipate. Thanks for your work!
Hi Irene! Great video - thank you for posting it. It helped clarify what I bump up with when helping myself and clients through energy healing. In some cases, when helping someone with underlying fear or doubt (or many other emotions), not only is that reduced, but then they tell me some medical symptom has disappeared. Thank you for all your videos and references!
I have body shakes like crazy these days. As I wake up I first have this feeling of falling down into blackness, then I get really scared and I start to shake. My neck makes my head shake. The trauma is stored in my upper back, or sometimes my stomach.
Wonderful topic, thank you! (fortuitous stumble upon your video - perfect continuation of my own recent thinking of mind-body connections) What you are discussing is a disconnection, a "not listening" to your own emotions as manifest in the energy of your body. And, in my view, it is not just your physical body and energy/emotions involved here -- but your subconscious thoughts and feelings. That is why these unpleasant conditions such as anxiety have a "viciously cyclical" nature to them: there is a dynamic process going on which can be triggered in various ways, e.g. - current circumstance in life queues established subconscious conceptual/thought pattern which starts to run, out of sight; then, energy/emotions react, and that energy begins to flow, which incites an established pattern of physical reaction in the body, which raises the systemic energy level at this particular frequency/pattern/color, which reinforces and further prompts the operative subconscious conceptual/thought pattern (subconscious sees physical/emotive reaction and believes there is a real danger...), which, in turn, strengthens energetic/emotional reaction, and...you have your "vicious cycle" off and running, all "subconsciously". This originally may well have all been subconscious (when young, you had no effective concepts and behaviours to deal with the particular circumstance), and has been kept there to protect you from further distress. It is very important to be able to listen to yourself, BUT...you still have to know what to do: how to provide yourself what you need to be balanced, at peace, whole, and, hopefully, joyful. ...particularly when the thoughts/emotions/physical reactions are so unpleasant and apparently disconnected from who and how you want to be in your life now, and appear to have a thread of "truth" connected to challenges in your current life's circumstances and underlying feeling of powerlessness (the original underlying feeling, still there). In other words - it is easy and likely to view these thoughts and emotional reactions as severely antagonistic. I ran across an insight years ago in a marvelous little book (Mastering Your Hidden Self) that has been great help to me: no matter how much it appears otherwise, your subconscious (a collection of "sub personalities") ALWAYS believes it is acting in your self interest -- it believes it is doing what is needed to protect and foster your life. The subconscious will continue doing what it has been unless you retrain it -- which literally means showing it that what it is doing is not needed or helpful anymore, and, as needed, giving it something else to do to help you.
Amazing explanation of what trauma does to the body! Thank you for sharing this. I hope this is okay to mention, however I've had many, many issues resolved by the Emotion Code and the Body Code. These modalities are all about releasing trapped emotions and energies to help the body heal. Developed by Dr Bradley Nelson.
Im now having seizures and chronic back pain . A lot of other nasty ailments i won't list here but im angry. The individual who did this to me as a child has stolen my health, wellbeing and entire quality of life. What a waste.
@rain7bow437, I'm sorry to hear about what you're going through. I hope you find some resources on Irene's channel that help to lessen your pain. I'll link to a resource that you might check out. - Jen from Irene's Team 4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
@juliej5917, yes, trauma can stem from a marriage, and it depends on the nature of the relationship and how it impacts you. Trauma is in the way an experience impacts us, and not in the event itself. If you want to dive into learning about trauma, where it stems from, and some steps involved in healing it, you might check out Irene's free video training. I'll share a link in case you'd like to learn more. - Jen from Team Lyon free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
Thanks for this. I often wonder if my disorder is the product of suppressed trauma o don't remember. It's a hemi facial spasm. Facial dystonia. I've been treating it with botox for 9 years until my insurance changed. Even with that, the botox freezes the left side of my face. Only thing that has helped tho. Neck is crooked from a wreck and was told my neck overcompensated. Thought it may be medication related but have only taken antidepressants in my life. Every now and then, and with a beer buzz...it is still. This has me thinking. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing your work Irene. I have a question: can we have the same somatic symptoms for having suffered "tsunamis of trauma" occurred in adulthood and we haven't managed yet to deal with those memories because are too overwhelming that prevent us from functioning in our daily life ? (Also, you look tired Irene. Please, take care and rest. You have done way too much and we are all grateful to have learned from you. Big hug from a burned-out sister).
@adoa77, Jen here from Team Lyon. If I understand your question, you're asking if the same somatic symptoms from trauma in adulthood can prevent you from functioning in daily life. If so, then yes, this can definitely be the case. The effects of trauma can show up in many different ways. What do you do when you have unresolved trauma? Two types of orienting - ua-cam.com/video/Tttzp6Oc3R4/v-deo.html
@eileenlocke7877, Jen here from Team Lyon. In case you're new around here, I wanted to let you know that Irene has a New Here? page. Here's a link in case you want to check it out: irenelyon.com/new-here/
Great explanation! Do you really think the body gives you a migraine/stomach ache/etc to signal that it needs attention? I feel more comfortable with my body thinking that it's the energy of the depressed emotion leaking out. The idea that my body is hurting me to get attention makes me feel a bit strange haha.
@joas162, pain does tell us that something needs attention. It's not so much that the body is intentionally hurting us, more that it's a way to tell us that something is happening - or wants to happen - that needs attention. In this nervous system work we learn how to listen and attune to what we feel, and also how to support what's happening and what's wanting to happen. Here's a link to a related video that might be of interest. Why post-traumatic stress and chronic pain lands in some people, and not others. - irenelyon.com/2016/02/05/why-post-traumatic-stress-and-chronic-pain-lands-in-some-people-and-not-others/ .
@paintedtorso, Jen here from Irene's Team. I'm really sorry to hear that you are trapped in an abusive marriage, hopefully finding this work will support you as you take steps to create change. It is more challenging to heal when we are being continually exposed to threat, and people do it. Creating safe havens for yourself where you feel even a little bit safer, a little less threatened, can be important. Knowing what your resources are - the things that feel at all settling or supportive, or that help you to deal with what you're doing through - can be important too. Finding practical supports and community might be something to consider exploring alongside engaging with this work. I'll link to a related video, to some of Irene's free resources, and to her self-study course called the 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up in case you want to check that out. Free Resource Center - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/ Can I Heal if I'm living in a Toxic Environment? - irenelyon.com/2020/06/07/can-i-heal-if-im-living-in-a-toxic-environment/ 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/
I had gotten to a point where I would freeze up, at 40 years old. And my eyes closed, my ears tensed up so all I could hear was blood rushing through them and my jaw clammed shut so tight I couldn't speak and then I couldn't move a muscle. Until I distracted my mind with "an ant on the sidewalk." To get my eyes to open and look for the last image I could remember seeing before freezing. I did not know what to think but know I do. 2:38 secoonds in, hard to go there again in my head. Lots of trauma, yikes.
Being a feeling I descended into my mind. Out of body near death experience. The first box is the third it has a open side. Coming into the second box a wall went up and the memory of the journey erased moving another wall went up and the physical came to life every single nerve in my body ignited. I kept trying to jump out of my mind. For 7 years after the smash what was erased pushed its way to my conscious mind. The symptoms were of ptsd nature 1000 yard stare ect
@Murphy.R, Jen here from Irene's Team. I hear you re your brain not being being able to do the multiple examples and elaboration. Many of us need to s-l-o-w the learning and practice way down as we come to this work. The freeze response in particular can really impact one's ability to learn and take in information, and is a major contributor to fatigue. You may already be doing this, and I invite you to go as slowly as you need to, pause a lot and come back, take in little chunks at a time, and perhaps turn on the "transcript" or close captioning features so you can read what's being said.
The only time that I had consistent migraines was when my mom and stepdad were married. From the age of 3-12. I have has anxiety ever since but have been working it for the majority of my life and it has reduced dramatically. But I do experience anxiety when triggered and feel it in my body.
@shiragoldberg7744, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's great to hear that your anxiety has reduced dramatically as you've worked with it over time. I wanted to make sure you knew that Irene has some resources related to anxiety. I'll share a few links in case they are of interest to you. 3 Things to know when healing anxiety - irenelyon.com/2022/08/17/3-things-to-know-when-healing-anxiety/ DIY: Anxiety Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
Fibromyalgia- chronic pain that goes UNTREATED and/or UNDERTREATED changes from a Symptom to the ILLNESS! They told me it was 'all in my head'. They put me on THREE DIFFERENT Antidepressants. I WASN'T DEPRESSED, I was in severe pain due to injuries & STRESS from my boss. That happened 23yrs ago. If they would have LISTENED to me, I wouldn't be in the horrible INCURABLE state I LIVE NOW!!🤬
I've had pain in my spine since I was young & was diagnosed with arthritis at age 15. I haven't worked since I was 39 due to chronic pain. Also, I've had surgery on 4 joints in both shoulders, one knee & one hip. I've always wondered if it was connected to the emotional meat grinder atmosphere I grew up in. Now I have been diagnosed with Hashimotos and may have to have it removed. Showing emotions wasn't allowed and we couldn't tell others.
@lindatshappat4973, Jen here from Irene's Team. It sounds like you have some ideas about what might have (and continue to) contributed to your chronic pain and physical symptoms. Irene has many resources where she talks more about this topic. I wasn't sure if you're new around here so will share a link to her "New here?" page just in case. New Here? - irenelyon.com/new-here/
After getting into an argument with my narcissistic mother and sustaining narcissistic abuse, the next day I had a severe panic attack. Following there after each day, I would have one severe panic attack a day. I couldn't seem to control my thoughts, I just had this fighting feeling inside me of holding my breath and not wanting to breathe. My therapist told me I was going into freeze mode, just as animals do when they're in danger around a predator. I thought she hit the nail on the head. I finally put together after all this time that it was my narc mother who caused me to have panic attacks over all these years.
I'm sorry and I'm glad you're getting Therapy 😊
I was three when I had my first attack. Im sorry you suffer from Mom. I do too. Can not and will not talk to her anymore..
I have a mentally ill mom who gas lights me and lied to my entire family and extended about me. Its like a dark cloud follows you around for ever
@@KOOLBadger good. My mom is so unpleasant to talk to in so many ways. She always finds some way to stain the convo with her toxic, poisonous negativity. I just kind of don't have a choice now coz I'm living with her. Will be moving out soon for a job thankfully.
@paul9544, Jen here from Team Lyon. When we grow up with unkind, abusive, and unattained caregivers, our nervous system often learns to live in survival mode, and in anitipeation of threat. This can certainly cause feelings of panic and freeze, as you mentioned has been the case with you. I'll link to a few of Irene's related resources in case you'd like to learn more.
What is an anxiety attack? - ua-cam.com/video/S2hT3Qp62mE/v-deo.html
Functional Freeze Explained - ua-cam.com/video/-qPCzzn-uQA/v-deo.html
DIY: Anxiety Anxiety Medicine (a practice you can try when feeling stressed or noticing the first signs of a panic attack) - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
Ive come to learn that pain is the messenger, and I no longer kill the messenger but listen deeply to it.
This is so true its sending you a message. Usually you're being inauthentic or youre boundaries are being stepped on 🫣
I used to suffer from “acid reflux” for years (2001-2003) (2009-2019). It had gotten so bad at certain points that I had to be rushed to the hospital. When I found out that this was from me being in flight, fight, or freeze for years everything started making sense. I’m in therapy right now and it’s very intense as I have to dissect everything from childhood until recently. I’m at a point where I can notice my body getting tense, anxious, tired, etc. and identify the trigger (right now it’s my job) and can calm myself down. I’m still not out of the woods yet as I’m not where I want to be in life, but I’ll be there as long as I continue to do the work one step at a time.
Life is all about balance and love. Daily meditation and prayer helps
Same here. The reflux so hard it is making me cough sometimes...taking omeprasol is not really helpful. And yes, previous traumas and abuse on the list...
Eat sauerkraut n say the rosary and go for Mass
@@Veronica-wi3tb eat sauerkraut n go for Mass
I am 56, I started with stomachaches around 1989. Later, found out it was "acid reflux" and I suffered from it for many years. I went to hospital many times because the pain was unbearable! Had hair loss, fatigue, migraines very often. In 2010 colapsed, found a therapist and here I am, much better. Aggressive mother, made my childhood and youth a hell and my father was a covert narcissist. My body stored everything!!! Sad...but at last!
It showed up in my body as breast cancer. It took me two years to release my pent up hurt, anger, and feelings of being insignificant, but boy was it worth it. I could feel the complete change in My heart, soul and body once I let go and began seeing myself as amazing and having a new beautiful understanding of all life. I am now able to see the value in all life's lessons and have finally stopped punishing myself for my past and live in the present moment with anticipation instead of dread! My cancer disappeared completely. My tumors shrunk without treatment and are completely gone. I only received treatment for 6 months and decided to stop 18 months ago. My recent blood showed my cancer cell count below the normal range. Work on your head, heart and soul for the best results. Your Inner Source can take it from there💖
Thankyou for sharing your story.. I've recently recovered from bladder cancer and 100% feel it is due to years of suppressed emotions.. Can you share what you did to release those emotions? I always feel that I'm never quite doing enough and it is still inside me🙏🏼
@@finitobonito ....I had to start by educating myself on how we manifest anything which is always thru our beliefs supported by our emotions. Those beliefs and emotions can be changed to match what we actually desire in our lives. Two wonderful teachers for me are Tom Kearin, Be Something Wonderful; and Abraham thru Esther Hicks. They will help you to recognize emotions and responses that are negatively affecting you and how to release what you no longer need or want. Be patient, it can take a while for issues to come to the surface and when they do, thank them for teaching you lessons learned and decide to let them go. There are many wonderful teachers on Utube who understand the principles of shifting yourself into a new understanding about our beautiful 3D lives. I listen to their videos everyday to keep reaffirming what I have come to understand about the laws of assumption and attraction. It feels so great to understand how YOU create your own world. Dr. Joe Dispenza, MD, phD, explains the whole process by teaching how the mind and body react to everything we put into our consciousness. Have fun with it because it's easier to shift when you are happy with yourself! Enjoy the process!🥰
This is so true. I cannot necessarily say I was suffering from sone past trauma but my work environment was so toxic my stomach would be in knots every morning and I ended up developing piles from anxiety. A few months after I quit the job all the symptoms disappeared. I slept better, the piles healed themselves and the anxiety just melted away. It's incredible how my body reacted to how unhappy I was feeling.
it’s amazing how our bodies can heal ❤️
I'm glad your symptoms disappeared. May I ask whether you changed your toxic career or not?
For anyone who'se interested, I had the energy of shock stuck in my brainstem from early childhood abuse. It took a gifted cranio/sacral therapist to release it with her hands! Made a lot of difference. Also released shock from my bones.
How was that done and can I learn to do it on myself ? Just asking.
Wow. Please share
Wow
I have shock too in musculoskeletal most certainly. I can lose conciousness stubbing my toe although i have a ridiculously high pain threshold. I feel my congenital brain malformation (chiari type) was due to shock trauma in the womb. A car accident led to premature birth at 7 months. I was seemingly OK outwardly if a little solemn and had a rich internal world. Docs thought I was a loon for raising it after devastating changes due to fall affecting sacrum ( I have had bladder, kidney, nerve issues all my life) and whiplash type neck injury. I understood the somatic elements and like you cranio sacral techniques and understanding cranial nerves and functions helped with the stress of misdiagnosis & medical gaslighting. Releasing the latter was harder than living with the "conditions "😅
@@donahboddamiif Covid and the side effects of the 💉showed us something, is that Doctors cannot be fully trusted.
I was born in a narcissistic cult-like family dynamic and I had a very narcissistic “best friend” as well. All parties involved drained me. I dealt with anxiety since 15 and developed ulcerative colitis in 2016. Thankfully, I recovered from from the UC in 2021.
And I’m still working through anxiety, but I am in a very good place. I had to cut off my entire family system and friend group due to so much overwhelming stress.
Thanks for making this video as very few are talking about this topic! All they want to do is give you predisone, which isn’t treating the cause.
Keep focusing on self love and discipline ☯️ 🧘♀️🙏 God bless you
Severe panic attacks while driving, conversing with a group of strangers or public speaking 😅. When your violent/mentally ill mother as a pre-teen (5 - 12) regularly knocks you hard on the head, regularly whips you or punches you hard like you’re an adult, fist punches or severely abuses you if you don’t do chores her way or speak out personal opinions. Either her way or you get beat up bad. Without realizing there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Childhood traumas definitely bubbles up & people react differently to similar circumstances.
I had a narcissistic father. Control freak. Ruined my life and the people around him. Now I have panic attacks and anxiety and depression .
@percubit10, Jen here from Team Lyon. This sounds really challenging. I did want to let you know that may of us who are drawn to Irene's work had some rough experiences growing up, and live with anxiety, depression, and other symptoms as a result.
We do find that there is hope - when we learn to understand and work with the nervous system in this way that Irene teaches, in time we can create healing and new ways of being that open the doors to new and different possibilities. I hope you find some info here that helps you move in that direction, if that's something you want.
@@IreneLyon I stopped taking care of myself. Bad teeth and don't care about my grooming. Lost two brothers one to drugs and one to suicide. My mom belittles me all the time that I am not successful. I spent years in a career doing IT work. She expects so much and gives me guilt trips all the time. To add insult to injury, Our lifestyles are pretty fucked up. Never celebrate anything, Never have any fun or leisure it's all serious and all about work and money. I used to say what about play. Playtime. That is so foreign to her. I like to travel and adventure and explorations. These ideas are so strange to her, I never understand.
That what we acquire, we can get rid off just as well ... (Louise Hay)
Have you tried Ho'oponopono ... ?
@@percubit10self love and discipline will help a lot, along with meditation and prayer. Don't take what she says seriously, it's only projections and stealing your energy. Take regular Epson salt baths ☯️
Hi percubit. I would check out anointed fire UA-cam channel on narcissistic people, like parents or relationships. Tiffany really goes into depth about why people choose to be this why and what you can do about it so that it doesn’t affect your life. It’s really a spiritual battle at the end. Stay strong and God bless!
I am totally stressed due to finacial abuse . I am totally broke and it is freaking me out …
I never have been so in trouble financially. It has totally incapacitated me , making me even worse off!
I am with you I live with my mother in law after my sister died of cancer ,he had recurring cancer him self I am greatful heroes help with the major things but no money to do things I need to for myself.
@@lisaperkins7807,
So many in the same boat now. Not enough for basic expenses, food or supplements/medicine......
Extreme stress !!!!!
We all need to pray to make ends meet !!!
I wish I could help u, even if it’s a small amount. What is your Cashapp?
@@theanonymoushelpline7248 do you still want my Cashapp?
In the meantime focus on self love and discipline ☯️ develop a closer relationship with God🧘♂️🙏
This is definitely true… AND…. not always the case. Some people have lyme disease , Crohns, EBV, allergies , hormonal issues, the list goes on. AND - the emotions part , if not the cause, can certainly exacerbate it
What do you think of PCOS ? What can be done?
I agree
I spent 12 days suffering from a anal abcess and fistula that needed immediate treatment. The surgeon took it upon herself to say the severe pain I was experiencing was somaform illness. No cat scan nothing. I spent 11 days being ridiculed, ignored in my 4 ambulance visits to hospital until I started to bleed rectslly and they rushed me to OR. I'm guessing that surgeon decided to be a psychiatrist. And now I have her reported to the medical board. In addition reported 3 teams of paramedics who ridiculed me.
The medical system is a complete gong show. If it's trendy to diagnose everyone with 'anxiety' they will do it. Glad you reported her.
The last time I had to go to the hospital was the last time...they treated me like 💩. I'll never go back, unless I'm unconscious. They used to be compassionate and effective. I don't know if they're over worked, if covid had an affect on the system...but I do know that they didn't treat me like a human being. I would never put myself through that again.
@earthsign7568 the crazy part a *surgeon*suddenly has the expertise to dx a abcess and fistula as anxiety producing extreme pain and send me on my way with no referral to anxiety doctor. Yup someone is incompetent as heck.
@miapdx503 they are ENTITLED. It's all about the money and every single one will moan they are underpaid. I agree with you btw.
You're lucky they didn't commit you and force you to become addicted to multiple medications against your will. That she reality for many women who "complain" about things like this. Heckin ridiculous. Sorry for what you went thru.
You have a beautiful demeanor. It is so compassionate, respectful, and intelligent. Thank you.
My soul healing has gone exactly hand in hand with my body healing. I was both literally and metaphorically twisted
Are you talking about scoliosis?
@@braverisingwithamanda pretty much. I had a bad neck injury as a kid that never got addressed, and it turned into it over time after multiple other injuries. I was completely cut off/unaware of my own body that added to mental dissociation when started smoking weed
@coreyroberts47 take Epson salt baths and burn Palo Santo incense with the window cracked just before bed🧘♂️🙏☯️
Don't want to recommend anything controversial but I have found psilocybin helpful in breaking some mental & emotional barriers, processing etc. It is being studied more thoroughly & showing lots of promise for aiding in trauma healing..
I concur!
Thanks had go dr get meds do not want take them but getting to point can not deal with journeys exhausted been 5 years just making me more angry then healing witch not good
I can concur. Before starting therapy, I attended medicine ceremonies with peyote and ayahuasca (among other things) to deal with what I recognized as trauma, but didn't understand was actually CPTSD. The peyote really helped me to see and love myself, which was the perfect foundation to do more heavy work. Psilocybin has been crucial in my therapy as I have an intention to see what my damaged ego is hiding from me and can't see it otherwise. Therapy is wrapping all this up for me and I feel it's crucial as well, because to navigate the subconscious and damaged aspects of the psyche requires a navigator who knows these realms well. I have a myriad of autoimmune diseases that started in childhood. As it stands now, I've completely eliminated symptoms from a few diseases while greatly diminishing symptoms of others. I look forward to total healing.
@@TheForestCrone
Where is this kind of treatment in America?
All shrinks have done for a decade thrown antidepressants at me, I'm standing on the edge of a cliff 😢
@@thewatchers5930 Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry! Step away from the edge! See if you're in a state where ONAC has a branch for ceremony (Oklevueha Native American Church) if you're interested in a different approach. Keep your mind open about AD's, I used Wellbutrin for 15 years tp get through the work that I needed to do psychologically. There really is an answer, it's just up to you to find it. Don't give your power away to others bc you're a badass and you can figure this out! Love to you.
I spent 4 years bedridden with fibromyalgia which I now understand as the mind's way of giving you physical pain so you wont have to deal with your emotional/mental/spiritual issues. Like some who wrote below, I now view pain as a messenger who helps me glean answers I need from my self. Thank you for talking about this.
I did an EFT zoom session last night with several students and practitioners. We focused on allergies. People were able to be free from life threatening allergies after treating their trauma 😊
I have experienced this myself. I have eczema brought on due to stress. 'Hay fever' is only brought on when I'm stressed. I have had eczema clear when avoiding certain people. I used to think I had issues with food. When in fact it was trauma based.
How can I join one of those sessions? I have multiple chronic health issues and food intolerances that I think were brought on by severe trauma in my childhood
@@pennym1056also try daily meditation and prayer
@5GBGone.ComProtectionDevice It has worked minor miracles in my circles, for sure. Like anything, it is not the answer for everything.
I grew up in a very unpredictable household with an alcoholic father. I struggled with generalized anxiety disorder and panic disorder for 10 years before I believe that turned into Ulcerative Colitis (a disease of the bowel). Since getting diagnosed, I realized my symptoms get worse when dealing with stressful events that remind me of my childhood. And they relieve themself after sorting through and releasing my suppressed emotions in a healthy way (like crying).
"Get in touch with your body...at your own pace". Will do.
It’s so hard😭I have this
Stay away from toxic people, nobody will help you, they will run you around creating more trauma stress judging you work on calming yourself
Even the medical industry
Don't forget adrenal glands. One they go "all-out" you can tap into rage or at least constant frustration whenever your natural cortisol rises. Like after coffee or when too hungry, or when obviously - you get triggered. Trauma and hormones are key, not only the nervous system. Depending on the severity of it ofc but if its really bad they id say the hormonal imba is worse than the nervous system side. "Luckily" i had a first hand experience. Trust me.
You got that right. I can totally relate.
Healing your feelings by feeling your healing
It’s a struggle being a single mom of 3 children 😢 I get no assistance no child support and no emotional support my job doesn’t even pay well to survive 😢glad I found this Chanel ❤
Beautiful things are ahead mama keep pushing sending you lots of love!
Praying for you, things will get better xx
Thank you 🙏🏾 everyone ❤️🫶🏾
This has plagued me my whole life, thank you. I pray for healing in the name of Jesus Christ!
I had awful stomach aches almost daily from 4th grade all the way through 6th grade. We looked at allergies and I went through plenty of different procedures, but ultimately nothing was found that would have been causing them.
It only just occurred to me a couple years ago that my stomach pains may have been a result of some sort of subconscious anxieties. 4th grade was the same year I developed a bad dermatillomania habit, which I hear can be a symptom of OCD (not that I think I have OCD, but that is an anxiety-related disorder). The pain also flared up anytime I went to sleepovers for some unknown reason. The stomach aches seemed to disappear as I got older and moved through puberty.
Although to this day, if I am - for example- packing before a long stay somewhere, I may not feel all that stressed or anxious in my brain. But my stomach will start to churn and ache as I pack. Then I’ll think of how I should be packing instead of laying down from stomach pain - which only prolongs the aching! Our brain-body relationships are so strange.
@omgsicle, Jen here from Irene's team. It sounds like you're making some important connections between your symptoms and underlying nervous system responses. You mentioned, dermatillomania. It sounds like this may something in your past, and I'll share a link to a video Irene did on the (general) topic in case you want to further investigate the links between your nervous system and your experience.
The connection between skin picking, OCD, and stored trauma - irenelyon.com/2021/07/11/the-connection-between-skin-picking-ocd-and-stored-trauma/
Did something bad happen to you during a sleepover?
@@paranoah1925 no, not that I remember!
@@omgsicle How about a trip or summer camp or something? Maybe a visit to a relative's place?
@@paranoah1925 Nothing I remember. I was always a shy kid though
I'm adopted, and I don't know when I was told this, or my reaction to this; but I do know that as a child I was angry alot and felt alone. My adopted mum had another baby when I was 8 1/2 months old, and was in hospital for 3weeks after a difficult delivery. I didn't stop crying the whole time she was away, and until I started to walk, so I believe that alot of my illness is from my early start in life. Even though It didn't start until I became pregnant and became a T1 diabetic, then lots of other illnesses developed.
@amandapryar4675, Jen here from Irene's Team. Early developmental trauma, which includes things that happen to us in utero and as infants, can have a major impact on how we develop and go on to live our lives. The good news is that we now know that there's a lot we can to do grow nervous system regulation and support healing later in life.
I'll link to a video out early developmental trauma in case that's of interest, and also to an interview Irene did with Seth Lyon, her husband and colleague, about his journey.
Healing our resistance to making money, exercising, & living in the matrix with Seth Lyon - irenelyon.com/2023/02/08/healing-in-a-toxic-culture-with-seth-lyon/
Q&A w/ Irene, Seth, & Janice. Special focus on healing early & developmental trauma - ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
Wow. Let me start by saying ... me too. I was an unwanted pregnancy and a "bad" baby. I was fussy and cried a lot. I have had anxiety for as long as a remember, as a toddler. I would cry uncontrollably if I thought I did something wrong or got in trouble. Needless to say my mind and body are destroyed after 53 years and I have been in therapy for 33 years
Listening to your video reminds of my own trauma from an automobile crash and I use all of these tools to heal myself and facilitating ease in my body and help transmute my pain from my fractures and stuffering migraines from a healed neck injury. With medical interventions and using these tools of meditation and visualization to help me.
I know that being Creative Arts Therapists,I'm so aware of shifting and help others to transmute both emotional & physical freezes that exists from within. Thank you for bringing in this 'footnote ' of how the trauma is stored in our bodies. ✨️
Irene I could have used this information 47 years ago to help stem and reverse what my wife was subjected to, I could have made better informed and wiser, more responsible decisions jointly with her.
Her family was a den of narcissism and inequity.
I appreciate you talking extensively on this subject. I developed fibro when I was around 10 yrs old and am now coming to have some clarity.
For some reason this caught my eye and struck a nerve. I have been trying to figure out for years the chronic pain I have. It is mysterious. I have crippling pain that pops up in various parts of my body. The pains usually come and go every day. At barely 14, both of my parents drowned. I have systematically lost all of my extended family...just one loss after the other. Thank Jesus I have my 2 sons! Sometimes I feel like I've never fully grieved or healed, but hadn't heard of the possibility of stored trauma. It makes sense.
@lindahandley5267, Jen here from Irene's Team. I'm really sorry to hear about how much loss you've experienced in your life. It may definitely be worth exploring the connection between what you've been through and the chronic pain you experience. If you haven't yet watched Irene's free Healing Trauma video series, you might check it out as it can often be pretty illuminating. Here's a link:
free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
@@IreneLyon Thank you so much. 💗
I'm sorry you had to go through this. I am your friend. You are never alone. Wish you all the blessings and love from earth and heaven. Stay strong💙😇
@@indigokid7565 That's so sweet of you. It happened many decades ago and thanks to my mother's family, my brother and i were well-taken care of and loved. Hold onto your family. They're are so important. Take good care of yourself!🌹
@@lindahandley5267 yes, that's true. My family loves me and they're the ones I can always rely on. All the best for you! ♡
Pain teachs us a lot of lessons......Let it pile up or fix it 🧘♂️🙏☯️
I developed Rheumatoid Arthritis the same year I lost both parents and also learned my deceased husband had been unfaithful. I am sure it came on as a result of that high emotional stress.
@donnapatrick6793. sorry to hear about all the losses that you went through in a short span of time. That's a lot to hold. I hope you find some education and resources on Irene's channel that shead some light on the connection between your physical symptoms and what you went through, and that feels supportive to you. - Jen from Irene's Team
So sorry for your loss and trauma x
When I feel anxious around people I get pain on the lower left side of my back.
When I would feel mad or stressed out I would get stomach aches. I agree that
body pain is associated with my thoughts.
I started to have instant itching after any nervousness post break down.
Someone is sending you negative energy, stay balanced and grounded as much as you can 🧘♂️🙏
A few "puzzle pieces" just came together: our brain needs to have feelings be "activated"/accessed in order for it to "open" the "window of reconsolidation" (maybe not even memories, but at least the feeling), and also, I'm remembering the AMAZING book "In an Unspoken Voice" by Peter Levine (It's SO MUCH BETTER than "When the Body Keeps the Score") where he speaks of going through the same physical motions the body went through during the time of the shocking event/trauma. So, yeah, we need to integrate the body AND the feeling in order to integrate the shift in both the body AND the mind. Ideally, we'd be like an animal and tremble our trauma away (like an animal shakes when terrified, and which we sometimes do. It is to be ENCOURAGED and NOT stopped but we've trained ourselves out of it)
I used to be in a toxic relationship. I really always felt like subconsciously that I could not please the other person if I was just being "myself". So that's why I had to disconnect from myself and I didn't even know that I was doing that. After 6 years I still have chronic pain in my body because of this. It has kind of become normal, even though I know it's not normal. But I am trying to see the positive aspects in all of this, how this situation actually helps me to reconnect with myself and with my truth again.
@ninaduschek9267, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's uplifting to hear about the way you're finding ways that your situation is helpful you to reconnect with yourself and your truth again. Reconnecting with oneself is actually very aligned with this nervous system work as it has a lot to do with teaching us to connect with our authenticity and to live more from this place of alignment. I'll link to a related message from Irene in case you want to check it out.
A 2023 message from Irene: RE-INVIGORATE YOUR BIRTHRIGHT!! - ua-cam.com/video/HJfZZB7mqQo/v-deo.html
At least you're self aware, some aren't. Daily meditation and prayer helps ☯️
I healed all my chronic illness through healing my gut and detoxing. I healed my CFS, MCAS, and several autoimmune conditions.
How did you heal your gut?
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@@littlebopeeps5852 I don't know what worked for this person, but many people look to Kefir to help.
@@littlebopeeps5852 Gaps Carnivore then transitioned into an intro Gaps diet.
Please share with us some of your resources. A lot of people need these answers.
That's one of the things we clear up with strenuous workouts. It gets us past traumatic experiences and clears and resets the mind.
Strenuous workouts are not good for people with adrenal fatigue.
@@mgn1621 That would be factored, and you would back up off of it for a while.
hard to do strenuous workouts with a rheumatic autoimmun disease that impacts your spine and big joint like the knees.
@@cliaclarke35 walking or moving in any way is a start. We have to move or we lose it.
Mindful movement is much better suited for people with trauma backgrounds
Through a shift in focused awareness we can notice the connection between a thought and our experience of our nervous system (which we interpret as a feeling, emotion). I see this process in our energy fields.
Great video, and thank you. I learned over many years that my illnesses (fibro, systemic sclerosis, etc.) were from many past life traumas. The symptoms that were coming up were from stored, old energy that was ready to be cleared and healed once and for all. I have been consciously clearing this for over 16 years now. I have gotten better, slowly, over the years. I hope to write about my healing journey to help others in the future. God and the support of my husband has truly has gotten me through this.
You’re explaining this really well. It’s short and to the point.
Thank you 🙏💖🕊
Studying chakras has helped me understand what core wounds need to be seen/ healed and how they manifest into the physical vessel 🕊
Please pay attention with those chakras stuff. it is a dangerous spiritual practice connected to these "new age" spirituality which seems nice at the beginning but opens doors we should not open (sorry for my english)
@@Seminaluce I totally agree!
Wow this is the best video i’ve seen in this topic
Thank you for genuinely and tirelessly doing these videos and perpetuating this understanding 🙏🙏🙏
Spot on! I love Maté. I did pelvic health pt and it helped me connected to my body. Thank you for the resources!
I suffered with asthma, endometriosis, migraines and an underactive thyroid. The onlybthing i suffer with today as of July 2023 is a little bit of asthma. Thw migraines were healed when i received Holy Communion ON THE TONGUE at the Fr Joseph K Bill 6 Day Silent Retreat in Ireland in Newry in 2006 (on youtube). Long story but God heals
Someone made a comment about something I shared in a meeting at work and I felt angry and invalidated. That evening my left shoulder suddenly hurt enough I wondered if I was having a heart attack. My shoulder to my fingers and back were excruciatingly painful for four months. Multiple medical tests found nothing.
Your energetic field is being interrupted. Wear selenite on the skin 🧘♂️🙏
Do you think your body was upset because you didn’t share your thoughts right then and there, in the meeting? It sounds like you just absorbed the other person’s cruel comment, but didn’t feel able to respond in your own defense. That’s something I’m still working on myself: speaking up immediately, instead of just quietly internalizing rudeness from others. It’s not easy, but it’s much worse to keep taking people’s crap silently
This makes so much sense. I had a pelvic tumor the size of a cantaloupe I had no idea I had and my surgeon was like how was you in zero pain you should of been agonizing pain. Didn't feel a thing. But that was because I also went to reiki and my reiki master found it. And the fibromyalgia I think really disguised that I felt the fibromyalgia more than the tumor.
Dr. John Sarno also spoke of this, especially how it related to back pain. He wrote several books on the subject. The mind is so powerful.
John Sarno saved my life, amazing man x
to experience a trauma is the purpose of human existence and understanding for oneself.
Severe brain fog, HS also can be a symptom of your body always being at fight or flight mode. So you body’s immune system is above what is normal to try and protect your whole self becuz you are constantly fearful.
@emmamonroe3311, Jen here from Irene's Team. Yes, for sure high sensitivity and other forms or chronic pain and illness can be symptoms of the body being in survival mode. This is the crux of Irene's teachings. I'll link to a few related resources in case you want to check them out.
An Epidemic of Chronic Illness: How Stress, Trauma & Adversity Early in Life Impacts Our Capacity to Heal - irenelyon.com/2017/02/03/epidemic-chronic-illness-stress-trauma-adversity-early-life-impacts-capacity-heal/
A Field Guide to Your Nervous System - irenelyon.com/field-guide-to-your-nervous-system
@@IreneLyon thank you.🙏🏻❤️
Stay balanced and grounded and keep your energy cleansed at all times 🙏 🧘♂️
I'm glad I found your channel. Another good book is Childhood Disrupted.
I appreciate your time and knowledge- I fully believe our physical and spiritual( mind) body go together. Thank you!!❤️❤️❤️
Totally moving forward at my own pace. Turning 58 soon. Great video!!
I tried to heal it with psychedelics and learned the hard way it does not work like that. It should be slow and careful.
I agree with this. I believe I had trauma as a child, and grew up with lots of conditions, which eventually became life threatening. I had systemic parasitic infection that nearly wiped out my white blood cells. The earliest emotional trauma I experienced was when I was about 4 years old. At 40 years old, I finally understood the nature of the conditions I had and started a long 10 year journey to clear out the parasites, normalise the functions of my body's organs and systems and clear out the trauma. I did all this with lots and lots of plants and plant derivatives like essential oils.
Thankyou, this is just rhe information I needed to read tonight I have been overwhelmed with stress for most of my life after early repetitve trauma, iits such a relief to be able to understand these were normal responses from my bpdy to percieved threat when I was a child. I am so grateful for you for your work
Thankyou from my heart to yiurs❤️
I have MS and chronic hypersomnia, and some mental health issues. I saw working with a counsellor recently and she mentioned the link being explored between adverse childhood events/experiences (ACEs), of which I had many, and MS. I came across this video when I was looking up more information on it, and it was very interesting, thank you.
@trala8911, great to hear that you found this video to be helpful. Another video came to mind reading your post, so I'll share that too, along with a link to Irene's free Healing Trauma video training which might be of interest as well.
Trouble losing weight? Got an addiction? (Origins of *The ACE Study*) - irenelyon.com/2015/10/14/origins-of-ace-study/
free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
- Jen from Team Lyon
I'm working on all of this now. My older sister has many autoimmune and digestive issues and keeps having surgeries which never help. When i try to speak with her about these issues she gets upset with me- "you're not a doc or therapist, stop being condescending, etc" i know i can't force it and when i have tiptoed toward the subject i have been incredibly gentle and only when she is bringing up the subject. Anyway, I'm so afraid of having info to point her toward (bc of my own severe issues and desperately searching for an answer) that could help or even save her and not getting it to her. I hope all of this becomes mainstream very very soon for our entire species. she did mention cptsd to her therapist who agreed so maybe that will fruit
I would like to point out... all of the illnesses she mentioned can and do occur WITHOUT traumatic issues. By not stating this... she is contributing to the "it is all in your head" problems many have to suffer through before getting REAL MEDICAL HELP. A patient trying to get medical help with a rare medical condition is hard enough without this type of theory being used to discredit the very real chronic illness and pain people are suffering with.
Your videos have been so helpful. Thank you for helping me understand what's going on with my bodv. I always believed they were two separate issues.
Great video! I learned a lot about this in massage therapy school! Great to see a video about it!
Why doesn't Gabor, or people like her mention Alice Miller's wonderful work which Gabor's stands on the shoulders of, including her book The Body Never Lies: the lingering effects of cruel parenting. All her other books are equally interesting and relevant.
You are amazing, thank you so much Irene! ❤
do you have any tips on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and severe brain fog?
I would go through her videos from top to bottom if I were you.
Good luck to you❤
Histamine intolerance is known to cause brain fog and fatigue for some people. So my tip would be to check that out... All the best!
Brain fog can be related to gut microbiome imbalances.
@sekischro5093, Chronic fatigue syndrome, or CFS, and severe brain fog can often go hand in hand. Generally speaking, learning to work with the nervous system to heal trauma and grow regulation often helps with CFS symptoms over time. Irene has a video about Adrenal Fatigue, and what she discusses there also applies to CFS. The freeze response is also often in the picture with both CFS and brain fog, so I'll share some links to where you can learn more about that too.
The 2 Little Known Stages of Adrenal Fatigue and What You Can Do to Fix It - irenelyon.com/2015/12/10/adrenal-fatigue/
How to come out of a chronic freeze response after repeated stress & trauma - irenelyon.com/2022/08/24/how-to-come-out-of-a-chronic-freeze-response-after-repeated-stress-trauma/
- Jen from Team Lyon
As a health coach, what I tell my clients is to start with the main pillars of health and then work outward. In other words, don't worry about whether or not gut issues, for example, are causing your symptoms if you have if don't have a solid foundation of health (i.e. the pillars). This method of getting rid of illness is quicker, essier, and less overwhelming. The pillars are water, sleep, food, stress reduction, exercise, good mental health, and social interaction. (I'm assuming you don't drink excessively or smoke.)
So, when you ask about how to get rid of your symptoms, are you living a health lifestyle and don't not why you have the symptoms, or do some of the areas I mentioned need improvement?
Yoga Sutras refer to stored trauma as Latent Impressions. I do like this wording. It keeps objectivity at hand. Spending time in the witness state helps with discrimination. Be Well
Thank you very much for your explanation! It's great and I totally can relate.
I just subscribed to your channel! This is me all the way! I have chronic health problems due to 9 years of childhood trauma, sexual abuse by a stepfather. My mother is also a manipulative Narcissist, so there’s that…
My health problems got way worse after getting Covid 2.5 years ago, but I can see a trend where I was sick for decades even before. Never clicked until recently that the root cause of my symptoms was from trauma! Gut issues,(leaky gut), Asthma diagnosed at age 40,(never had Asthma before!) food allergies/ histamine intolerance, brain fog, severe mood swings, anxiety, anger, stress.
Thank you for this! I’ll be looking forward to watch your other videos. ❤
@leannshort2211, Jen here from Irene's Team. Great to hear that so much clicked when you found her channel!
Since it sounds like you're new around here, you might check out Irene's New Here? page. Here's a link:
irenelyon.com/new-here/
Yes! I’m finally coming to this conclusion re my core childhood mother wound is demanding I feel it process it abd then my chronic injury etc will dissipate. Thanks for your work!
This is amazing. Thank you for sharing. I’m glad I clicked on this video. I’m starting to listen to my body a lot more.
Hi Irene! Great video - thank you for posting it. It helped clarify what I bump up with when helping myself and clients through energy healing. In some cases, when helping someone with underlying fear or doubt (or many other emotions), not only is that reduced, but then they tell me some medical symptom has disappeared. Thank you for all your videos and references!
I have body shakes like crazy these days. As I wake up I first have this feeling of falling down into blackness, then I get really scared and I start to shake. My neck makes my head shake. The trauma is stored in my upper back, or sometimes my stomach.
Wear selenite and burn frankincense daily with the window cracked just before bed ☯️🧘♂️🙏
This may be fnd..functional neurological disorder. Look into Julie Herchberg videos on FND.
I read Carolyn Myss yrs back. I believe as you say.
Thank you for the explanation, Irene.
Wonderful topic, thank you! (fortuitous stumble upon your video - perfect continuation of my own recent thinking of mind-body connections)
What you are discussing is a disconnection, a "not listening" to your own emotions as manifest in the energy of your body. And, in my view, it is not just your physical body and energy/emotions involved here -- but your subconscious thoughts and feelings.
That is why these unpleasant conditions such as anxiety have a "viciously cyclical" nature to them: there is a dynamic process going on which can be triggered in various ways, e.g. - current circumstance in life queues established subconscious conceptual/thought pattern which starts to run, out of sight; then, energy/emotions react, and that energy begins to flow, which incites an established pattern of physical reaction in the body, which raises the systemic energy level at this particular frequency/pattern/color, which reinforces and further prompts the operative subconscious conceptual/thought pattern (subconscious sees physical/emotive reaction and believes there is a real danger...), which, in turn, strengthens energetic/emotional reaction, and...you have your "vicious cycle" off and running, all "subconsciously".
This originally may well have all been subconscious (when young, you had no effective concepts and behaviours to deal with the particular circumstance), and has been kept there to protect you from further distress.
It is very important to be able to listen to yourself, BUT...you still have to know what to do: how to provide yourself what you need to be balanced, at peace, whole, and, hopefully, joyful.
...particularly when the thoughts/emotions/physical reactions are so unpleasant and apparently disconnected from who and how you want to be in your life now, and appear to have a thread of "truth" connected to challenges in your current life's circumstances and underlying feeling of powerlessness (the original underlying feeling, still there).
In other words - it is easy and likely to view these thoughts and emotional reactions as severely antagonistic.
I ran across an insight years ago in a marvelous little book (Mastering Your Hidden Self) that has been great help to me: no matter how much it appears otherwise, your subconscious (a collection of "sub personalities") ALWAYS believes it is acting in your self interest -- it believes it is doing what is needed to protect and foster your life.
The subconscious will continue doing what it has been unless you retrain it -- which literally means showing it that what it is doing is not needed or helpful anymore, and, as needed, giving it something else to do to help you.
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Amazing explanation of what trauma does to the body! Thank you for sharing this. I hope this is okay to mention, however I've had many, many issues resolved by the Emotion Code and the Body Code. These modalities are all about releasing trapped emotions and energies to help the body heal. Developed by Dr Bradley Nelson.
Trauma causes stomach and gut issues, chronic Inflammation which causes autoimmune issues, chronic pain and unending depression/anxiety.
you are brilliant
Im now having seizures and chronic back pain . A lot of other nasty ailments i won't list here but im angry. The individual who did this to me as a child has stolen my health, wellbeing and entire quality of life.
What a waste.
@rain7bow437, I'm sorry to hear about what you're going through. I hope you find some resources on Irene's channel that help to lessen your pain. I'll link to a resource that you might check out. - Jen from Irene's Team
4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
@@IreneLyon thank you so much x
This info is all included in Louisa Hay's book - "You can Heal your Life" published in 1984.
Yes, and being pissed off gets you a UTI. I am a living example of that.
Brilliant Video
First, love your presence and knowledge! Can the trauma/somatic experience be from/ continued from a long term marriage beginning at age 19? 💜
Of course it can. 👍 One’s partner or in-laws can definitely be the purveyors of stress to someone.
@juliej5917, yes, trauma can stem from a marriage, and it depends on the nature of the relationship and how it impacts you. Trauma is in the way an experience impacts us, and not in the event itself.
If you want to dive into learning about trauma, where it stems from, and some steps involved in healing it, you might check out Irene's free video training. I'll share a link in case you'd like to learn more. - Jen from Team Lyon
free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
You are great at explaining. Thank you!
Thanks for this. I often wonder if my disorder is the product of suppressed trauma o don't remember. It's a hemi facial spasm. Facial dystonia. I've been treating it with botox for 9 years until my insurance changed. Even with that, the botox freezes the left side of my face. Only thing that has helped tho. Neck is crooked from a wreck and was told my neck overcompensated. Thought it may be medication related but have only taken antidepressants in my life. Every now and then, and with a beer buzz...it is still. This has me thinking. Thank you.
Take Epson salt baths regularly and up your water intake 🧘♂️🙏
Thanks for sharing your work Irene. I have a question: can we have the same somatic symptoms for having suffered "tsunamis of trauma" occurred in adulthood and we haven't managed yet to deal with those memories because are too overwhelming that prevent us from functioning in our daily life ? (Also, you look tired Irene. Please, take care and rest. You have done way too much and we are all grateful to have learned from you. Big hug from a burned-out sister).
@adoa77, Jen here from Team Lyon. If I understand your question, you're asking if the same somatic symptoms from trauma in adulthood can prevent you from functioning in daily life. If so, then yes, this can definitely be the case. The effects of trauma can show up in many different ways.
What do you do when you have unresolved trauma? Two types of orienting - ua-cam.com/video/Tttzp6Oc3R4/v-deo.html
Does anyone know who does cranial/sacro therapy for trauma in the portland metro area?
Interesting this applies to me had trauma very early years suffer with deppression and cronic pain over th years wow very interesting thank u 🙏
@eileenlocke7877, Jen here from Team Lyon. In case you're new around here, I wanted to let you know that Irene has a New Here? page. Here's a link in case you want to check it out: irenelyon.com/new-here/
Great explanation! Do you really think the body gives you a migraine/stomach ache/etc to signal that it needs attention? I feel more comfortable with my body thinking that it's the energy of the depressed emotion leaking out. The idea that my body is hurting me to get attention makes me feel a bit strange haha.
@joas162, pain does tell us that something needs attention. It's not so much that the body is intentionally hurting us, more that it's a way to tell us that something is happening - or wants to happen - that needs attention.
In this nervous system work we learn how to listen and attune to what we feel, and also how to support what's happening and what's wanting to happen. Here's a link to a related video that might be of interest.
Why post-traumatic stress and chronic pain lands in some people, and not others. - irenelyon.com/2016/02/05/why-post-traumatic-stress-and-chronic-pain-lands-in-some-people-and-not-others/
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Very true! Great video! ❤
Im trying to heal while still in an abusive marriage. I am trapped. Can you address how to heal/cope while still exposed to trauma or abuse?
@paintedtorso, Jen here from Irene's Team. I'm really sorry to hear that you are trapped in an abusive marriage, hopefully finding this work will support you as you take steps to create change. It is more challenging to heal when we are being continually exposed to threat, and people do it.
Creating safe havens for yourself where you feel even a little bit safer, a little less threatened, can be important. Knowing what your resources are - the things that feel at all settling or supportive, or that help you to deal with what you're doing through - can be important too. Finding practical supports and community might be something to consider exploring alongside engaging with this work.
I'll link to a related video, to some of Irene's free resources, and to her self-study course called the 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up in case you want to check that out.
Free Resource Center - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Can I Heal if I'm living in a Toxic Environment? - irenelyon.com/2020/06/07/can-i-heal-if-im-living-in-a-toxic-environment/
21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/
Daily meditation and prayer helps. Also burn frankincense with the window cracked while your partner not there. Bless it be
I had gotten to a point where I would freeze up, at 40 years old. And my eyes closed, my ears tensed up so all I could hear was blood rushing through them and my jaw clammed shut so tight I couldn't speak and then I couldn't move a muscle. Until I distracted my mind with "an ant on the sidewalk." To get my eyes to open and look for the last image I could remember seeing before freezing. I did not know what to think but know I do. 2:38 secoonds in, hard to go there again in my head. Lots of trauma, yikes.
Would like to watch the long video you mentioned on Facebook, do you have a link please?
@rachelyoung7859, see if this is what you're looking for: facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=840920272995285
- Jen from Team Lyon
Being a feeling I descended into my mind. Out of body near death experience. The first box is the third it has a open side. Coming into the second box a wall went up and the memory of the journey erased moving another wall went up and the physical came to life every single nerve in my body ignited. I kept trying to jump out of my mind. For 7 years after the smash what was erased pushed its way to my conscious mind. The symptoms were of ptsd nature 1000 yard stare ect
I love what Irene has to teach but my brain can't do the multiple examples and elaboration she does every few statements. Fatigue
@Murphy.R, Jen here from Irene's Team. I hear you re your brain not being being able to do the multiple examples and elaboration. Many of us need to s-l-o-w the learning and practice way down as we come to this work. The freeze response in particular can really impact one's ability to learn and take in information, and is a major contributor to fatigue.
You may already be doing this, and I invite you to go as slowly as you need to, pause a lot and come back, take in little chunks at a time, and perhaps turn on the "transcript" or close captioning features so you can read what's being said.
Not listening to our bodies is the original sin of humanity
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The only time that I had consistent migraines was when my mom and stepdad were married. From the age of 3-12. I have has anxiety ever since but have been working it for the majority of my life and it has reduced dramatically. But I do experience anxiety when triggered and feel it in my body.
@shiragoldberg7744, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's great to hear that your anxiety has reduced dramatically as you've worked with it over time. I wanted to make sure you knew that Irene has some resources related to anxiety. I'll share a few links in case they are of interest to you.
3 Things to know when healing anxiety - irenelyon.com/2022/08/17/3-things-to-know-when-healing-anxiety/
DIY: Anxiety Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
@@IreneLyon Absolutely!
Very good caught. Stay balanced and grounded 🧘♀️🙏
Thank you very much! It makes sense!
Fibromyalgia- chronic pain that goes UNTREATED and/or UNDERTREATED changes from a Symptom to the ILLNESS! They told me it was 'all in my head'. They put me on THREE DIFFERENT Antidepressants. I WASN'T DEPRESSED, I was in severe pain due to injuries & STRESS from my boss. That happened 23yrs ago. If they would have LISTENED to me, I wouldn't be in the horrible INCURABLE state I LIVE NOW!!🤬
I've had pain in my spine since I was young & was diagnosed with arthritis at age 15. I haven't worked since I was 39 due to chronic pain. Also, I've had surgery on 4 joints in both shoulders, one knee & one hip. I've always wondered if it was connected to the emotional meat grinder atmosphere I grew up in. Now I have been diagnosed with Hashimotos and may have to have it removed. Showing emotions wasn't allowed and we couldn't tell others.
@lindatshappat4973, Jen here from Irene's Team. It sounds like you have some ideas about what might have (and continue to) contributed to your chronic pain and physical symptoms. Irene has many resources where she talks more about this topic. I wasn't sure if you're new around here so will share a link to her "New here?" page just in case.
New Here? - irenelyon.com/new-here/
Wow....that was either a narcissist/military family, not kid friendly at all. God bless you. Burn frankincense daily with the window cracked 🧘♀️🙏☯️