MTG Top 10: Sagas | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 589

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024

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  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому +53

    Sagas in its current form was Richard Garfield's contribution to RtD. It's such a fun, clean way to depict the MtG story in-game and the template does a lot to highlight the awesome art not limited to fantasy tropes.

    • @joelhaggis5054
      @joelhaggis5054 Рік тому +1

      Literally Magic as Richard Garfield intended.

  • @derekhiemforth
    @derekhiemforth Рік тому +129

    Honestly surprised that Kumano Faces Kakkazan didn't make the list.

    • @elnatanbitensky8314
      @elnatanbitensky8314 Рік тому +6

      I thought it sees play in multiple formats.

    • @derekhiemforth
      @derekhiemforth Рік тому +12

      @@elnatanbitensky8314 Even if it doesn't, I thought it would have earned enough points just from Standard.

    • @joelhaggis5054
      @joelhaggis5054 Рік тому +1

      I don't even remember what that card does

    • @edkolbe1850
      @edkolbe1850 Рік тому +11

      ​@Joel Haggis only costs one red:
      Chapter 1: deals 1 damage to target player and planeswalker
      Chapter 2: The next creature you play this turn enters with a +1/+1 counter Chapter 3: Turns into a 2/2 with haste and whenever a creature your opponent control dies Exile it instead

    • @markholzderber4384
      @markholzderber4384 Рік тому +1

      @@joelhaggis5054 1 Red, 1st: deal 1 damage to each opponent and each planeswalker, 2nd: your next creature comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it this turn, 3rd: gives you a 2/2 that exiles everything your sources kill. so yeah hell of a 1 drop. edit: oh yeah my bad just exiles creatures

  • @SgtCookie111
    @SgtCookie111 Рік тому +36

    8:28 Actually, you don't necessarilly need the card in your graveyard. You can, in fact, choose to _discard_ a land which the chapter ability would then be able to reanimate.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily Рік тому +4

      My favorite trick with Restoration is actually cracking a Roadside Reliquary and then bringing it back.

    • @picassodilly
      @picassodilly Рік тому +1

      Yeah- since you can discard the plains you just got from chapter 1, a ramp spell is kinda’ the fail case if you don’t happen to have a good two-drop in your graveyard or hand.

  • @c.jhamblin5759
    @c.jhamblin5759 Рік тому +8

    I am truly of the mind the sagas are in the top 5 additions to magic ever. They gave enchantments back a lot of the unique territory that they had lost to artifacts over the years, offer the perfect meld of story and gameplay, and feature a gorgeous graphic layout with some of magics best art since 2018. And they feel simultaneously fair and poweful because they do a lot but they give your opponent multiple avenues and chances to interact with them.
    Richard Garfield sure does know how to design

  • @Davisnacho
    @Davisnacho Рік тому +51

    Anyone else find it funny that the best card in an enchantment subtype is all about artifacts.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub Рік тому +15

      Just like the urza's saga block

    • @ceulgai2817
      @ceulgai2817 Рік тому

      No, because expecting that kind of parasitism is asking the game to become Yugioh.

    • @hi-i-am-atan
      @hi-i-am-atan Рік тому +4

      @@ceulgai2817 ... it's not funny because an evergreen card type supporting another evergreen card type is parasitic? or because an evergreen card type supporting _its own_ card type would be parasitic?
      either way, i feel like ygo has a fair few things that are a _bit_ more defining

    • @MakeVarahHappen
      @MakeVarahHappen Рік тому +7

      Fits given Urza's Saga the block was an enchantment focused block with some of the most broken artifacts of all time.

    • @HotBlasterBot
      @HotBlasterBot Рік тому +1

      @@MakeVarahHappen wait, really???

  • @SansGray
    @SansGray Рік тому +6

    Sagas are also #1 in my heart because they're almost universally blessed with great art.

  • @Shimatzu95
    @Shimatzu95 Рік тому +6

    I expected fable to be nr 1, I also forgot about urzas saga being a saga XD

  • @King-Bubel
    @King-Bubel Рік тому +6

    Sagas are such a cool addition to mtg. I was there when they were introduced and they’ve just continued to prove that they are worthwhile and interesting.

  • @Orcasgt22
    @Orcasgt22 Рік тому +4

    Only way Urza's Saga falls down this list is if it gets banned. Absolutely insane card

  • @eddievedderface
    @eddievedderface Рік тому +5

    History of Benalia

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Рік тому +11

    Sagas are definitely my favorite subtype of card in the game. Love blinking them and going straight down to value town
    Some of my favorites include: birth of meletis, restoration of eiganjo, the bloodsky massacre (art is beautiful on this one), binding of the old gods, and fall of the thran (its so degen but i have a historic brawl deck where this is my windcon when combined with tormod's crypt type effects, i get far too much joy when i get this to happen)

  • @mikenahmias7102
    @mikenahmias7102 Рік тому +2

    Love the choice for the thumbnail. I have those sleeves on my white Explorer deck on Arena.

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Рік тому +9

    I remember when mh2 first cane out in sealed i thought urza's saga was even more busted than it actually was because i didn't realize it meant an artifact with a mana value 0 or 1 printed on it. So when it was getting ready to expire on the third chapter i was fetching the artifact dual lands in the set. I apologize to my opponents now because apparently thats not how it works lol

    • @adamgoldreich1514
      @adamgoldreich1514 Рік тому +5

      Yeah the key distinction is that it says “mana cost”, not “mana value”. I also misinterpreted it when I first played with it.

    • @michaelcollins4534
      @michaelcollins4534 Рік тому +3

      @@adamgoldreich1514 my mind will never be able to remember the difference between mana value and mana cost

  • @Windowlick_
    @Windowlick_ Рік тому +33

    Kind of insane to me that Fable has only 10 points in Pioneer, since it's arguably the best card in the format. Is it just a lack of events?

    • @xxANBUxx
      @xxANBUxx Рік тому +9

      I would argue Nykthos is the best card in Pioneer.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub Рік тому +6

      ​@@xxANBUxxthen you'd be wrong

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 Рік тому

      ​@@xxANBUxxmono-green Devotion is T2 at best

  • @SirZapdos
    @SirZapdos Рік тому +2

    I'm pretty sure The Eldest Reborn and History of Benalia rotated out of standard in 2019, as that was when Eldraine was released and everything went to hell in a hand basket.

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 Рік тому +2

      Ironically also when Mtg got a big spike in New players

  • @taylorolson6228
    @taylorolson6228 Рік тому

    seeing #9 reminded me of all the games it singlehandedly won against my cycling deck in standard. So brutal in that matchup

  • @XYGamingRemedyG
    @XYGamingRemedyG Рік тому +1

    I bet Urza's Saga is gonna be here. Love that card. AAAAAYYYYYYY

  • @gerudo4sale861
    @gerudo4sale861 Рік тому +1

    I finally read an article of yours on card kingdom and for some reason I thought it ne written hiw you speak lol. Very well written articles. Good technique which isn't surprising since you have a PhD in history I suppose

  • @Jerry-zf3ip
    @Jerry-zf3ip Рік тому +1

    I'm glad history of benalia got on the list. That was a beater in GRN standard.

  • @herringway434
    @herringway434 Рік тому +2

    A cool idea for a top 10 I don’t think you’ve done is of cards that make unique tokens. According to scryfall there are over 250 cards that make unique tokens so I would imagine there have to be at least 10 with points

  • @darkagerush3098
    @darkagerush3098 Рік тому +2

    I love watching your vids nizzahon. I don't play magic ATM but have a lot in life and still like to keep up with the game and your media is most of how I do that thanks much

  • @salvulcano1049
    @salvulcano1049 Рік тому +9

    hmm i wonder what #1 is gonna be

  • @JasonFanelli
    @JasonFanelli Рік тому +2

    Fable of the Mirror-Breaker's chances to catch the number one spot have gone up with the new Standard changes, no?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  Рік тому +3

      Unless it gets banned, which I think is more likely with the new system.

  • @edkolbe1850
    @edkolbe1850 Рік тому +2

    I wonder where Kumano Faces Kakkazan is on the list, it is also a multiformat staple and is on the ladder just as much as Fable of the Mirror Breaker.

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider Рік тому +3

    With cards now being 1 year longer in Standart new cards will get slot more points

  • @bolassnowman7429
    @bolassnowman7429 Рік тому

    One of my most favorite Sagas is still The Eldest Reborn. Sagas have come such a long way in such a short time. Thank you sir

  • @leninade20
    @leninade20 Рік тому +1

    Oh, flashbacks to endless matches against White Weenie decks and the terror History of Benalia. Do not miss it, but heckuva card in its day.

  • @-ZH
    @-ZH Рік тому +2

    12:12
    Wait a minute, those scores add up to 49.
    Which one of those formats was mistyped?

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja Рік тому +1

    Fable is ridiculous, honestly. Also, i was kinda surprised none of the read ahead cards made the list, i thought they would see more play

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  Рік тому +1

      Cruelty of Gix will make the list in the long run.

  • @TrumpLester
    @TrumpLester Рік тому +1

    Just in time for Tom Bombadil's card too. Saga Tribal, here we come

  • @BloodDracolich
    @BloodDracolich Рік тому +1

    It may have just been me, but your eldest reborn section kind of blinked out there. I heard you talking about it, but I didn't see the card for a moment there.

  • @brianmcevoy1990
    @brianmcevoy1990 Рік тому +1

    I really should have bought a ton of Fable of the Mirror Breaker's when it was like 2 dollars. Knew it was gonna be a hit.

    • @henryzelman4541
      @henryzelman4541 Рік тому +1

      Yeah I took a break right before that set came out, but looked at the card and immediately realized that it was a standard legal seasoned pyromancer (there are some differences but the two cards are basically the same power level)

  • @TheKillerman3333
    @TheKillerman3333 Рік тому +1

    This seems a bit earlier given our newest sagas. Perhaps we will get a new list in two years

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 Рік тому +3

    For the 666-th video, will you do the best (or worst) Demons? It's not that much far

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Рік тому +1

    i am amazed Cruelty of Gix isn't top 3 and not even top 10. It's an amazing saga that literally does the three main things black wants to do. Remove a creature or planeswalker card from an opponents hand, search your library (grim tutor style losing three life), and then pull a creature from any graveyard onto your battlefield. Cruelty of Gix also has the saga breaking "READ AHEAD" so if you need to tutor RIGHT NOW you can, and still get the reanimation next turn. If you need to pull a creature onto the battlefield RIGHT NOW you can do that.

    • @tuubi2783
      @tuubi2783 Рік тому

      Its too slow, 5 mana reanimate something is not a good enough floor for older formats. I'd say a great way to think about this type of ranking is how excited you would be to pick the card in a cube draft. Showdown of the skalds is not exciting but its good in its archetype.

  • @nathannjh
    @nathannjh Рік тому +1

    How in the world will they ever power creep urzas saga. I’m scared for the future.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 Рік тому +1

    Calling Number 1: Urza’s Saga. 0:01

  • @notbot4525
    @notbot4525 Рік тому +1

    Surprised Reflection of Kiki Jiki didn't make the list.
    Seems like it is played occasionally and sideboarded in for grindier green and white based matchups
    Oh well.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  Рік тому

      So uh. Did you not watch the video or what?

    • @notbot4525
      @notbot4525 Рік тому

      @@NizzahonMagic I was just trolling
      Edit:
      Or maybe you just pulled the double-troll, by giving a trollish response to my troll comment
      If so, I like your style sir
      Either way I like your style and videos

  • @janvandeven906
    @janvandeven906 Рік тому +1

    Really thought mirror breaker would 1 before seeing the list

  • @joelhaggis5054
    @joelhaggis5054 Рік тому

    Between the first saga video and this one, the number of tournament legal sagas has exactly doubled, going from 44 to 88. It's fitting, then, that exactly half of the cards on the first list have fallen off.

  • @n.m5253
    @n.m5253 Рік тому +1

    Top Ten one mana sorceries leaving out discard spells? (Or grouping them together since otherwise they'd fill the entire list)

    • @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825
      @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 Рік тому

      Probably rift bolt, lava spike, glimpse of nature and Dark ritual will be somewhere there filling that list.

    • @n.m5253
      @n.m5253 Рік тому

      @@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 Ritual is an instant, the other cards most likely yes. But would be an interesting list, there's stuff like ancient stirrings, chain lightning, bloodchiefs thirst, claim the firstborn, gitaxian probe, ponder etc.

  • @authorinabox
    @authorinabox Рік тому +1

    Akroan war's points look like they add up to 49 to me unless I'm mistaken?

  • @jsum33
    @jsum33 Рік тому +2

    Does the fact that Fable is staying in Standard another year make the race to #1 a bit more interesting?
    Also, how likely do you think it is we'll see Urza's Saga banned? I dislike that card, it's nutters, but it's flavor and the tribute to Urza's Saga, which was my first booster box and favorite block, I can't hate it.

    • @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825
      @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 Рік тому +1

      By now, sadly, I doubt we are getting more modern horizons card banned. Personally I'll rather have them ban the freaking elementals than Saga.

  • @hungrybois5954
    @hungrybois5954 Рік тому +18

    I don't think any saga can be #1 since no saga grants +4/+4 rampage. Waiting for Teeka's saga until that day.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 Рік тому +1

      Teeka's Dragoncraft
      9
      Artifact Enchantment - Saga
      I: put a Flying counter on target creature.
      II: creatures with flying you control gain trample.
      III: target creature with flying gains rampage 4 until end of turn.

    • @cax1175
      @cax1175 Рік тому

      Don't forget Trample

  • @elementaleighteight
    @elementaleighteight Рік тому +1

    Showdown goldspan spell slinger.pump and protect otk

  • @Generic42
    @Generic42 Рік тому

    Lol “Timorette” “Best to See God” “Birth of Mites” “The Oldest Reborn” “Showdown of the Skulls” “Restoration of Igonjo” “Hidezugu Consumes all” “Beth Conkers Death” “Erza Saga”

  • @alienicecream
    @alienicecream 11 місяців тому

    Urzas Saga / Urzas Legacy / Urzas Destiny

  • @bigbonerecords.4080
    @bigbonerecords.4080 Рік тому +1

    Nah .. Best Saga to me in is The Kami War .. in a flexible mana Ramp card deck.

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 Рік тому +3

    Urza's Saga is good but it would be a lot better if you could search for an artifact creature with a mana cost of 9.

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому +2

      Preferably with flying and rampage

    • @davidlundquist1979
      @davidlundquist1979 Рік тому

      Ah, you mean Colossus of Sardia? Better include a way to tutor up Instill Energy too then.

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ Рік тому

    How long until you do top ten BATTLES?!?!

  • @StrawMan1235
    @StrawMan1235 Рік тому +3

    Fable doing so poorly in historic and pioneer seems pretty shocking to me considering how prevalent Rakdos is in those formats.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub Рік тому +1

      It's not doing poorly it's just not that many events

    • @yawg691
      @yawg691 Рік тому +1

      Oh trust me lmao its doin just fine. I just don't think there are enough events to show it yet.

  • @samuelvanetten4324
    @samuelvanetten4324 Рік тому

    Can someone please tell me what make saga's good?
    Because I never understand the appeal...

    • @arthurvandenbergh1881
      @arthurvandenbergh1881 Рік тому

      They usually give a lot of value for their cost. You have to wait a bit so that’s the downside but overall they tend to be pretty great

  • @hyoroemongaming569
    @hyoroemongaming569 Рік тому

    Saga of the Eyes of Blue

  • @vario6492
    @vario6492 Рік тому

    Jeez Urza's Saga is so broken

  • @martinithechobit
    @martinithechobit Рік тому

    YAAA!.

  • @caseywellington4761
    @caseywellington4761 Рік тому

    Hmm I wonder which saga is number one OH WAIT NO I DON'T BECAUSE IT'S IN LITERALLY EVERY DECK

  • @Arethusa01
    @Arethusa01 Рік тому +2

    I wonder if it's even possible to make a top 10 worst Sagas.

    • @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825
      @aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 Рік тому

      Probably only because technically "worst" doesn't mean necessarily "bad". If it was "top 10 bad sagas" I doubt he could....xD

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 Рік тому

      I mean, Dragon Kami Reborn definitely would be there for basically doing nothing.

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 Рік тому +1

    Wonder how many from LotR will belong here.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Рік тому +2

    I can't say I'm surprised at the #1. What's hilarious is that it's (I think) the newest Saga here and it already has completely dominated all the others. Maybe one day it'll make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", I'm not sure.

    • @blueredlover1060
      @blueredlover1060 Рік тому +1

      It came out before Fable did. That said, both are insane cards.

  • @andresperez7476
    @andresperez7476 Рік тому

    I dont have any of these 10 cards 🐗🐧🐢

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    @jaxexe9408 Рік тому

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  • @Lovuschka
    @Lovuschka Рік тому

    Of course the number 1 spot is a land.