Time Team S09-E05 Ironbridge.Gorge,.Shrops

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  • Опубліковано 11 кві 2013
  • This programme takes Time Team back to the earliest beginnings of the Industrial Revolution in the area now known as the Ironbridge Gorge, in Shropshire.
    In the village of Leighton the Team is investigating a particularly interesting cellar; the archaeology could take us back nearly 400 years. The cellar, based in a pub, contains the remains of a blast furnace - used for making iron.
    What more can be discovered about the story of Leighton's lost furnace?

КОМЕНТАРІ • 195

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому +14

    Something about Micks grand dad being a foundry man makes me inordinately happy.

  • @jamesheald7971
    @jamesheald7971 4 роки тому +44

    This program is a gem. It has been said that television is a "vast wasteland," but among all the rubble and clutter of typical programming, Time Team has proven its value over and over again.

  • @gaylec258
    @gaylec258 4 роки тому +116

    I don't think the guy that does the sketches gets enough credit. He has an awesome imagination. Being able to "see" the way it use to be, and bring it to life, for us, on paper. It takes talent to take a pencil and paper to create a scene just from viewing piles of stone, dirt, and rubble. I realize a computer can generate a more precise picture, but one that is less "human", and without character. Wonderful job. Thank You.

    • @mikenotmichael
      @mikenotmichael 4 роки тому +4

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Ambrus

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 3 роки тому +15

      In time team alone he's drawn painted carved wood and stone engraved a coin stamp and taken photos. Truly a renaissance man.

    • @corneliawissing7950
      @corneliawissing7950 3 роки тому +6

      Fully agree!

    • @tulips3967
      @tulips3967 3 роки тому +14

      @@joshschneider9766 He sculpted, too! R.I.P. Victor Ambrus

    • @seanmcgcostumes
      @seanmcgcostumes 2 роки тому +23

      I was so sad to hear about when he died this past February, but I'm so glad that the new episodes of Time Team are using his vast cache of drawing that he made for Time Team over the years (with his family's approval, of course). When something they're digging is the same period/item as something he drew before (i.e. an 11th century manor, a Roman road, etc.), Time Team can now use an old work of his as a visual aide for the audience. I love that his work will live on in the show like that! And Time Team's website also sells books of his art, too.

  • @Strigulino
    @Strigulino 3 роки тому +20

    "It's like trying to look at the oil industry by looking at a petrol pump" - that is such a good analogy for why you study what's going on around something.

  • @lisasargent2841
    @lisasargent2841 4 роки тому +18

    What a cutie the heavy equipment operators doggie is. He's very excited to go to work with his dad!!!

  • @thomasbell7033
    @thomasbell7033 11 місяців тому +3

    This is one of my favorite episodes, largely because from here in Brooklyn that Shropshire landscape looks awfully beautiful.

  • @speedbrake22
    @speedbrake22 4 роки тому +15

    Phil's enthusiasm at 27:00 is so awesome to see (and contagious)

  • @adamsjerome1839
    @adamsjerome1839 4 місяці тому +2

    Victor's artistic abilities were vast. He was a member of prestigious artistic societies.

  • @MeMommyEms
    @MeMommyEms 4 роки тому +12

    That dog is living the digger’s life! ❤️

  • @sweettart130
    @sweettart130 9 років тому +59

    I just had a mini freak out at timestamp 40:56 when she said "George Hartshorne"... that's one of my ancestors!

  • @mermeridian2041
    @mermeridian2041 3 роки тому +17

    Thank you for posting these - they've helped keep me somewhat sane during COVID 2020.

  • @roxnoil
    @roxnoil 8 років тому +28

    So enjoy these Time Team episodes, not stiff, formal like most American production. Tony perfect as a host to bring that mix of real science and rye humor.

    • @jantruitt9241
      @jantruitt9241 5 років тому +1

      Maybe he meant “dry humor”?

    • @mjrussell414
      @mjrussell414 4 роки тому +5

      Jan truitt No, wry would be more correct - he just doesn't know how to spell.

    • @brookscima
      @brookscima Рік тому +2

      Maybe not…my husband thinks he is humorous when he drinks rye.

  • @nancymills1884
    @nancymills1884 Рік тому +4

    I recall the first time I saw molten steel being poured- it was amazing to see the red steel glowing. It was also at night so it was stunning to see. How these men lived in that heat, especially in the 1700’s. Just amazing.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому +1

      As a modern foundry worker I went from 186 pounds to 156 the first six months I worked lol

  • @annk.8750
    @annk.8750 3 роки тому +8

    I visited the furnace in Quincy, Massachusetts, oldest in the USA, with mammoth reconstructed bellows. Impressive! Built in the 1640s.

    • @lizeggar2421
      @lizeggar2421 Рік тому

      Wow!! When did the Pilgrims arrive? Imagine carving something like that out of the wilderness. Pretty impressive, I would say.
      I live in Telford, very close to Ironbridge.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      ​@@lizeggar2421about twenty years prior but the Spanish had been here for over a century.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      The Brits were late to the colonizing game compared to the rest of Europe. Elizabeth was basically pressured into it by greedy speculator types

  • @tammydriver5759
    @tammydriver5759 5 років тому +17

    Cute puppy in the cab of the backhoe

    • @lorawiese5897
      @lorawiese5897 4 роки тому +2

      Smiles. .he is making sure they are doing it correctly. Such an adorable pup.

    • @cindydintn
      @cindydintn 3 роки тому

      @@lorawiese5897 iy in iiygyu. K. N. . J.g

    • @kevinmcneill468
      @kevinmcneill468 3 роки тому +1

      Border Terrier, we have one now and had one before, best little dog on the planet

  • @santoparfano1910
    @santoparfano1910 4 роки тому +5

    These are getting harder to find. You are one of two channels that have timeteam. Much appreciated!

  • @smeghed1025
    @smeghed1025 10 років тому +30

    Thanks so much for posting these! It must have been a big effort.

  • @patriciabracken7546
    @patriciabracken7546 4 роки тому +24

    I love the dog in digger..

  • @00BillyTorontoBill
    @00BillyTorontoBill 6 років тому +15

    The one clear thing I learned was the expression "useless git"
    now it really makes sense.

  • @firesongn
    @firesongn 3 роки тому +4

    Loved the dog in the digger!

  • @stannousflouride8372
    @stannousflouride8372 8 років тому +19

    The car park is here:
    52.646124°N, 2.577345°W
    The stone bridge is under these trees:
    52.644806ºN, 2.576458ºW
    And the dam was around here:
    52.649263ºN, 2.574832ºW

    • @markfox1545
      @markfox1545 3 роки тому

      Did anyone ask?

    • @corneliawissing7950
      @corneliawissing7950 3 роки тому +1

      @@markfox1545 , No, but being incurably inquisitive, we like to know.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 4 місяці тому

      ​@@markfox1545no and nobody asked you to snark for no reason. Any knowledge is good knowledge you useless git.

  • @BryonLape
    @BryonLape 9 років тому +69

    I do believe Phil would giggle himself to death if he uncovered a stoned crow.

    • @gaylec258
      @gaylec258 4 роки тому +4

      thanks for the laugh

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 3 роки тому +5

      Except he's saying "stone the croze". In Midland dialects the word for the cork on a barrel was croze. Stone the croze means smash the beer barrel cork with a rock

    • @alexhando8541
      @alexhando8541 3 роки тому +3

      @@joshschneider9766 Except, Phil's from Somerset

    • @corneliawissing7950
      @corneliawissing7950 3 роки тому +3

      @@joshschneider9766 , Fascinating! So Mr Phil actually says 'open the beer barrel!'

    • @sharimullinax3206
      @sharimullinax3206 Рік тому

      Thanks for the laugh!

  • @DanKetchum007
    @DanKetchum007 11 років тому +44

    It's every dog's dream to be able to dig like that.

  • @piotrnerka
    @piotrnerka 4 роки тому +11

    Is it just me, or does everyone see the phrase "I have a cunning plan, mylord" storming with ill-deserved confidence into the direction of the conversation whenever Baldr... I mean Tony opens his mouth. ;-)

  • @a.j.carter8975
    @a.j.carter8975 Рік тому +1

    ❤ thank you so much for uploading these. 😊😊😊

  • @lisatwitchell403
    @lisatwitchell403 3 роки тому +7

    I had to learn to sand cast, like where they are casting the actual cannon balls, in 1970 while I was getting a degree in Industrial Arts. I actually made a wooden mold and made a special tool to rebuilding motorcycle crankshafts. The more things change the more they stay the same.. LOL

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому +1

      I've sand cast metal as well as done open face castings of glass where we poured molten glass into impressions in sand rather than used a cope and drag. I miss molten material

  • @grannypantsification
    @grannypantsification 4 роки тому +6

    Phil usually has neat square trenches with perfectly vertical sides. To see him in a rubble filled pit is so strange.

  • @gailolson6324
    @gailolson6324 2 роки тому +1

    In Hopewell, PA, they have a couple furnaces and they made charcoal. The guys worked 24 hours a day taking turns feeding the charcoal fires, to make enough charcoal to feed the furnaces.

  • @heathen-greaser
    @heathen-greaser 5 років тому +2

    Really nice pub with friendly staff too

  • @vlg8482
    @vlg8482 3 роки тому +1

    I live in Telford by Ironbridge 😁 and still love to hear the history on where I live.

  • @ColleenJousma
    @ColleenJousma 5 років тому +4

    The dog deserves credit on IMDB.

  • @eboracum2012
    @eboracum2012 3 роки тому +5

    love to have a basement with a vaulted ceiling like that!!

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      Trust me the headache of having to consult federal officials for as little as deciding what color to paint the walls gets old. Yeah I guess it was worth it but it is a god awful headache dealing with county archaeologists and national heritage people. Im glad archaeology gets saved but there's a lot of headaches.

  • @colinboneham7387
    @colinboneham7387 2 роки тому +1

    I live only a couple of miles from this at the time it was filmed, but not many knew it was happening as it did, if it was done today thanks to Facebook and other such feeds you’d know in minutes of the team arriving it was going to happen.

  • @kuripangui
    @kuripangui 5 років тому +4

    The dog !!! 💖💖💖

  • @hildeelisepedersen4323
    @hildeelisepedersen4323 2 роки тому +1

    I still Gry when i see Mick ashton i did love him soo mutch rip

  • @heatherdickau5335
    @heatherdickau5335 Рік тому

    New bucket list destination.

  • @1101millie97
    @1101millie97 4 роки тому +2

    I love that dog....

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 3 роки тому +1

    I used to run a blast furnace, best job I ever had. Couldnt help notice there are never any calls for equality in the work place in that industry.......

  • @Swaggerlot
    @Swaggerlot 11 років тому +6

    Fortunately it looks like its been protected for renovation rather than demolition.

  • @judeirwin2222
    @judeirwin2222 2 роки тому +1

    Ah. Stewart revealed the answer to my question as to why the firing campaign stopped during the summer. It had to be because the water level of the stream dropped then, making its force insufficient to drive the wheel.

  • @deanmc178
    @deanmc178 Рік тому

    a lovely place to go .. i went to the bridge in 1984

  • @kevingouldrup9265
    @kevingouldrup9265 4 роки тому +5

    As an American i am always interested in anything from Shropshire! Thanks to the Shropshire slasher and Bugs Bunny.

    • @meeseification
      @meeseification 2 роки тому +3

      I usually don't comment on anything over a few weeks old, but I'm glad I'm not the only person to giggle when someone says "Shropshire" thanks to Daffy Duck

    • @cookiesshorts6118
      @cookiesshorts6118 2 роки тому +2

      Name?
      Shropshire Slasher
      Occupation?
      Shropshire Slasher

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 4 місяці тому

      I just googled the slasher and holy crap what a case!

  • @corneliawissing7950
    @corneliawissing7950 3 роки тому +1

    Prof. Mick's wearing a jumper with vertical stripes!

  • @nevyen149
    @nevyen149 8 років тому +7

    Google Earth still shows this pub as closed. It's all boarded up and the parking lot is closed off with cement blocks. Jan. 10, 2016

    • @johnnyveganite9141
      @johnnyveganite9141 8 років тому +4

      +nevyen It'll probably 'accidentally' get set on fire, then demolished and a block of flats put on it. Thats what has happened to most of the grade 2 listed buildings around here (essex).

    • @nevyen149
      @nevyen149 8 років тому +5

      NoMeatMe
      Sad. It's destroying history for an undoubtedly ugly set of Apts.

    • @MWGiesbrecht
      @MWGiesbrecht 7 років тому +5

      nevyen open now!

    • @nevyen149
      @nevyen149 7 років тому +6

      MWGiesbrecht
      Cool. Have one for me. Then have one for yourself. Then have one for me. Then have one...

    • @berthiltanke8377
      @berthiltanke8377 4 роки тому

      It is still closed, now during the corona crisis.. they are not very Lucky..

  • @keicbell
    @keicbell 3 роки тому +1

    I'm transfixed by that gorgeous ginger pony tail

  • @AndyMartin401
    @AndyMartin401 3 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @lauralake7430
    @lauralake7430 2 роки тому

    It must have been nice to be a charcoal makers family in the winter. Think how lovely and warm the house would be with that big earthen heap of fire in it. The children would be warm as toast.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 6 років тому +3

    That "trench" in the car park looks more like a crater by the end of the excavation.

  • @lizzy66125
    @lizzy66125 7 місяців тому

    Stuart always manages to make everything clear

  • @paulbriody297
    @paulbriody297 4 роки тому

    Interesting!

  • @themissouriwoodwaltzer7827
    @themissouriwoodwaltzer7827 3 роки тому +2

    The Team didn’t have far to travel to get to the Pub at the end of the day. lol

  • @gandalfthegay420
    @gandalfthegay420 3 роки тому

    Great pub that 👌

  • @Cohowarren
    @Cohowarren 9 місяців тому +1

    Pub dig,, Phil's dream.

  • @piotrnerka
    @piotrnerka 4 роки тому +9

    Shows like Time Team are a great example of the great programming on Discovery Channel (and other documentary themed channels) in the 90's and the beginnings of the '00 years. It al got awful afterwards with American [place your occupation here] shows afterwards. I hardly ever really watch Discovery, History or NatGeo anymore because of this abysmal change of content. I wish we could go back to the times in which program content was meant to intrigue and educate instead of being a fake sensation seeking theatre like its nowadays.

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 3 роки тому +3

      It isn't a Discovery made program though, it is just a repeat of a show made by Channel 4 in the UK.

    • @piotrnerka
      @piotrnerka 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rover200Power That's beside the point. Wether they produced TT themselves or not, Discovery channel gave it a spot in their programming back in those days. Compared to today's programming, imo things have gone downhill the last 20 years.

  • @andrewcornwell8347
    @andrewcornwell8347 4 місяці тому +1

    I love Time Team, so please don’t get upset… I always feel sorry for the archaeologists doing the work whilst they seem to be outnumbered 3:1 by people looking into the trench.

    • @user-hy7zb2vl3t
      @user-hy7zb2vl3t Місяць тому

      1000 to one looking we are looking as well 😊

  • @debbieboring3422
    @debbieboring3422 5 років тому

    Good thing they did it in the winter. WOW Hot more than Phoenix.

  • @garvikzukov5445
    @garvikzukov5445 4 роки тому

    Great

  • @brianvittachi6869
    @brianvittachi6869 5 років тому +1

    I like Stewart's job the best.

  • @maddog2771
    @maddog2771 4 роки тому

    Was here Nov 2019

  • @maddiethomas5892
    @maddiethomas5892 10 днів тому

    This episode feels different but i can figure out why.

  • @maddog2771
    @maddog2771 4 роки тому +1

    I was here in September 26 2019

  • @cjpenning
    @cjpenning 11 років тому +2

    'fettling' seems to be the word of the day

  • @joannamallory2823
    @joannamallory2823 6 років тому +1

    The industrial revolution is a bit of a snooze for me but I so love this team I watched all but the recreation bits.

    • @00BillyTorontoBill
      @00BillyTorontoBill 6 років тому +1

      think of the people working... ugh. life expectancy of ???

    • @cathjj840
      @cathjj840 5 років тому

      Maybe not much more than glassblowers - whadja think?

  • @DavidAndrewsPEC
    @DavidAndrewsPEC 7 років тому +32

    I love how, even though Phil's a prehistoricist, he can still get a brain-boner for an issue in industrial archaeology, too!
    Nice one, Phil!

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому +2

      He's been doing a bunch of work over the last two years on the battle of Waterloo and even though he's a flint man he always dips his cap to the men who died in the battle. He's a dear. There's actually a life like statue of him at the museum in Salisbury.

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC 11 місяців тому +1

      @@joshschneider9766 Warm glow time. :)

  • @Timeren2010
    @Timeren2010 6 років тому +9

    That guy has a horsetail attached to his neck.

  • @brentlichtenberg
    @brentlichtenberg 5 років тому +2

    38:14 sounds like Tony slipped into an after school special.

  • @blaggercoyote
    @blaggercoyote Рік тому

    They still make charcoal like that in many places.

  • @chrisphilhower6029
    @chrisphilhower6029 3 роки тому

    Ar 25:02, Did I see a Brake Rotor?? Didn't know they were around that long.

  • @julie7292
    @julie7292 7 місяців тому +1

    Its indiana stewart. Love tge hat!

  • @lilyjones9564
    @lilyjones9564 3 роки тому +1

    I live in ironbridge

  • @nopeyadayadayada1248
    @nopeyadayadayada1248 Рік тому

    That pub is dangerously close to the road. Or visa versa.

  • @wibbletthewobblet9558
    @wibbletthewobblet9558 3 роки тому

    "It's 8:30 in the morning and I'm looking for a pub" -Tony Robinson

  • @Biofilmz
    @Biofilmz 3 роки тому +1

    "Any joy yet?" ... blechhhhhh
    Otherwise a magnificent episode!

  • @anotherbrickoutthewall9237
    @anotherbrickoutthewall9237 2 роки тому

    Ohhh arrre Tony straight to the pub... Stone the crows!

  • @basstrammel1322
    @basstrammel1322 6 років тому +10

    38:09 "Ok, so the million $ quiestion: Did they experiment with coke?"

  • @NICOLAASARIE
    @NICOLAASARIE 11 років тому +2

    Moet je eens naar die pub kijken op google-earth, Failliet naar ik aanneem.
    Look for the pub on google-earth. It looks shut.

  • @DavidSmith-yx7kn
    @DavidSmith-yx7kn 2 роки тому

    Just goes to show you how good the folks were that did make the coal for the furnace.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      It was a generational skill same as carpentry or stone work or blacksmith. As time went on it became a standardized industry. All but dead and dusted now. Very few people on earth can make a good clamp.

  • @rustyreturns9754
    @rustyreturns9754 Рік тому

    I’ve been curious since I started this series over a month ago. Who replaces all that they dig out? Is it returned to the way they found it? Are some sites left exposed for history’s sake? I really, really want to know

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      Occasionally sites are preserved in an open pit state but in time teams case a guy named Kerry was the site supervisor and occasionally in episodes and typically he and a team of three or four folks would take detailed drawings and measurements and then rebury everything

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 11 місяців тому

      In this car park and other such cases relevant contractors were paid to repave stuff and so forth as I understand it

  • @rhoddryice5412
    @rhoddryice5412 2 роки тому

    40:38 that’s some nasty looking burns she got.

  • @hughgordon6435
    @hughgordon6435 Рік тому

    Did the pupper get a mention in the credits?

  • @LoneKharnivore
    @LoneKharnivore 7 місяців тому +1

    40:08 *fewer

  • @peanut71968
    @peanut71968 3 роки тому

    Proof no one ever rose above it sitting on their arse!

  • @iandarall4551
    @iandarall4551 Рік тому

    If yd used a big jet wash in the digging with a big extraction pump yd have found a he'll of a lot more in half the time

  • @judeirwin2222
    @judeirwin2222 2 роки тому +3

    I still think, having spent so much time showing how charcoal is made, that they skimped on the explanation of how coal becomes coke.

  • @alisterx8698
    @alisterx8698 2 роки тому

    11:40 I’d be looking at the mountain in the background kind a looking to see if any ancient ancient civilizations have dug into it Britain has a lot of ties with ceremonial mounds, Stonehedge to represent solstice of the years ext.

  • @adammullarkey4996
    @adammullarkey4996 Рік тому

    2:20 Wait, so, they're digging a trench against the wall to find out if it's safe to dig a trench against the wall?

  • @johnDukemaster
    @johnDukemaster 4 роки тому

    At 21 minutes reading the document, there's a chap called Mathias Gervais..I wonder if he's related to Ricky?

  • @cactus1202
    @cactus1202 7 років тому

    2:39

  • @HaulinWulf
    @HaulinWulf 4 роки тому +1

    The man made dam story don't confinces me. If you hold back the water, fed by a small, slow stream, you empty the "stored" water in no time, because you can't level up the dam fast enough. So I think, the creek was holding much more and faster moving water in the time back.
    But anyway, Time Team is still my favorite.

    • @michaelmccaffery2684
      @michaelmccaffery2684 4 роки тому +2

      You can temporarily reroute the stream channel so you can build dam, once dam is finished reinstitute the original stream channel. One option.

    • @boatfaceslim9005
      @boatfaceslim9005 3 роки тому +1

      @Graf: 1. The point of a dam is to create a reservoir to control flow. 2. Yes, through winter there would be a larger volume of water.

  • @shellythom7248
    @shellythom7248 4 роки тому

    Is it just me or did Ian look like John Lennon in the earlier videos? Still has his face just the hair is different now. LOL

  • @educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890
    @educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890 4 роки тому

    Born in a barn, Tony. Shut the fucking doors!

  • @patrickwentz8413
    @patrickwentz8413 5 років тому

    That was a lot of work for a cannon ball. You would have thought they would have made them like ball bearings.

  • @angelitabecerra
    @angelitabecerra 2 роки тому +1

    Anyone know what Tony means by "coke"?

    • @lizzy66125
      @lizzy66125 Рік тому

      coke is another fuel source,used instead of charcoal

    • @angelitabecerra
      @angelitabecerra Рік тому

      @@lizzy66125 I gathered that much. What *is* it? Like what is it made of?

    • @alanmorgan8647
      @alanmorgan8647 Рік тому +1

      @@angelitabecerra roughly speaking, coke is produced by 'cooking' coal to drive out impurities in a similar process to producing charcoal from wood.

    • @angelitabecerra
      @angelitabecerra Рік тому

      @@alanmorgan8647 Thank you for the explanation

  • @Automaticdeer
    @Automaticdeer 7 років тому +2

    unfortunately they weren't experimenting with coke haha

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 3 роки тому

      Theres a bigger rush running a blast furnace..... especially when it goes wrong.

  • @misslady0075
    @misslady0075 3 роки тому

    What you saying?

  • @shawnkelly2958
    @shawnkelly2958 6 років тому +1

    Wait... you need red hot charcoal to make charcoal? How does that work?

    • @mastrofnone8025
      @mastrofnone8025 6 років тому +1

      Heat is needed to burn off moisture and gasses out of wood . Charcoal can be made with a coal bucket with a top and a small hole in the bottom and set over a fire. Once the volatiles are gone you have charcoal.

  • @jonb6417
    @jonb6417 4 роки тому +3

    "You can't believe the palaver" said Tony. Oh yes I can! Many of these inefficient, bureaucratic parasites are the bane of British life.

  • @ronc7743
    @ronc7743 5 років тому +1

    I wouldnt mind climbing into Dr. Butterworth's trench!

  • @desslokbasileus571
    @desslokbasileus571 3 роки тому

    43:47   45:14  😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @vapingotter7518
    @vapingotter7518 2 роки тому +1

    Are you now....or have you ever been a Industrial Coke User 😑?