What Made Metallica Change Their Mind About Nirvana?
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0:00 - Intro
0:48 - James Hetfield
4:28 - Lars Ulrich
6:44 - Kirk Hammett
8:27 - Nirvana on Metallica
10:43 - Outro
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Metallica said some pretty shitty things from the stage about Kurt's death.. To me, that's pretty low.
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No I think the band r e m and the pixie's paved away for nirvana
Kirk Hammett is a dolt.
F••k no. Nirvana contributed towards Metallica getting grunge fans kinda like how Motorhead was a band that punk rockers and metalheads could both enjoy.
There's not a trace of Metallica in Nirvana's music and Metallica wasn't famous until Enter Sandman. Nirvana becoming famous had absolutely nothing to do with Metallica. Nirvana helped Metallica AND Megadeth stand apart from the garbage metal of the 80's and had some influence on why the early 90's Metallica and Megadeth music didn't fall to the wayside like Poison, Motley Crue, Winger, etc. did. Nirvana killed off hair metal while Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, etc. continued to thrive.
@nameless646
You, are 100% correct.
Those jokes were in very poor taste considering Metallica of all bands understands the pain of loosing a band member
Rest in peace Cliff ✌️
Exactly
Metallica members are a fkin joke, fake af
For real
So true
Ulrich joke exploded on his face when Dave Grohl dominated the rock scene ..
Dave Grohl is a million times the drummer Lars wished he could be.
Rock died in the 80s. Dave got no respect or acknowledgement just the kids of that generation that actually was dumb enough to buy what any celebrity at the time was selling.
@@godloveszazayou do realise that rock music still exists right? 😂 go see a local rock band 🎸 and be surprised that there’s more music than just the top ten 😊
@@godloveszaza even if you don’t like the music they make or say it’s just stale dad rock essentially, diluting his and the foos success to essentially what is the reason for every mainstream acts success ever is kinda silly/reductive don’t you think?
@@godloveszaza yo theres two people talking shit about your opinion man. I say fuck em
Respect to Kirk not being such embarrassing like his mates
And Rob, Cliff, and Jason!!
Kurt was the embarrassing one. If it turns out that James actually heard the things Kurt said in interviews, then I don't blame him for making those jokes. Kurt was bipolar and would be an utter dick in interviews on t.v.
Kirk is the most sane out of Lars and James
@@kurtcometa4818 psichologically speaking yes. James and Lars suffer from Narcissism. And their minds don't go much far away than from their own self. Egocentric human beings who are always seeking for pitty and attention. Goes from publically crying in a concert for an alcoholic problem (95% of rockstars do and there are fsr way worst scenarios) seeking attention and pitty to treating other human beings like they have no value of their own. To these kind of condition they are the center of the universe and don't care about the feelings of other human beings. Non empathic as well
@@kurtcometa4818ikr
I love the story about Kurt and Kirk at the concert when he was requesting "Whiplash"
Ikr wholesome fr💚
People say dumb and disrespectful shit sometimes. I love Nirvana and don't mind Metallica but even Kurt could say some pretty dumb things from time to time. The fact that mutual respect grew between the two bands is the best take from this.
Metallica had no right to mock Nirvana or Alice In Chains.
Lol why? Cobain opened his mouth a lot, but Metallica can't?
Yeah but Metallica said what they said not long after Cobain’s death
@@user-rv5di3gt2xthey went too far though. Kurt opened his mouth about feminism and rape and women’s rights. And openly voiced his opinion on bands who he saw as sexist, very different from mocking someone who just recently passed away or someone who had to drop out of a tour to address their mental health and drug addiction issues. They should’ve been supportive of Layne going to rehab and addressing his issues. And they should’ve kept their mouths shut about Kurt onstage like that
Cobain had two blew eyes....
@@FortessofShredthat joke isnt funny written down, its an out loud joke dependent on different spellings of blue/blew. It literally isnt funny to read
I found that disrespectful when Metallica made fun of Nirvana and Kurt Cobains Death.
Funny since Lars was so happy Kurt was in a concert front row and they were excited to talk about it in some mtv interview. Lars has no soul. Go Napster
Haha what color was Kurt Cobains eyes blue! one blew this way one blew that way 😂
@@jasonkav This guy
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@@jasonkavnot even accurate to what happened
The hilarious part is Axl Rose was the huge name rockstar who was a massive fan of Nirvana from the get go in '91 to the point of wearing their hat in a video and Kurt turned it into a massive feud while Metallica just mocked him after death and then only later on acted like "wow can't believe he died, what a talent" .
Frrrr
Their jokes were totally despicable.
Very very low words
Yeah, you could tell that they genuinely didn't like Nirvana. I don't count their interviews because they're putting their PR masks on.
Maybe they were butthurt over the fact that Nirvana refused to go on tour with them due to Guns N Roses during the early 90's. Maybe they were jealous of Nirvana.
Lars was outspoken about his contempt towards Kurt due to Kurt saying that he hated being famous once he was subjected to everything that came with it.
Then in the mid 90's you have Lars wearing guyliner and trying to appear edgy which pretty much says it all. And a dude who's mullet became more and more redneck to the point that he looked like a country band roadie talking s••t about Kurt suddenly cutting the mullet off to promote a new album.
Then several years later they do the same thing again by trying to imitate Korn.
I don't really care that James jammed on CAYA or that they played the intro to SLTS in 2003. It just goes to show how shameless they are when it comes to trying to get people to listen.
I love Metallica and Megadeth's music from the 80's but James, Dave, and Lars seem like incredibly petty, egotistical, narcissistic douchebags to be around overall. The whole thing with James, Jason, and Echobrain didn't have to happen. And there's no way that Dave getting fired from Metallica was solely because of his substance abuse issues. Dave was more popular and outspoken than James in Metallica too. They said the same stuff about Mustaine like when they would trash Nirvana and Alice in Chains.
They themselves are despicable. The fact that they have millions of fans with 30 years of irrlelevent stuff still blows my mind. Shows how bad and brainwashed this society is
@@JPR17 agree 100% The sheep public are force fed a steady diet of overblown digital garbage music to consume and gladly lap it up brainlessly with a zombiefied catatonic smile.
@@JPR17their last 3 albums are pretty good, unlike the entirety of nirvanas output
You left out that Kurt listed “The Thing That Should Not Be” as one of his favorite songs in his journals.
Interesting🤔
Never knew that. Just listened to it now, it wouldn’t have sounded out of place on Bleach.
I still love Metallica but I’ll never forget this…
It’s pretty simple: people mature as they get older and regret the stupid things they said in their youths. The fact that the members of Metallica went on Nikki Sixx’s show even though Metallica and Motley Crue beefed for years is also a reflection of that.
And as bad as those jokes were, There’s also the thought that you only roast the ones you love. And even at the time, Metallica expressed a lot of admiration and respect for Nirvana.
I think as Metallica got older they chilled out a bit
Agreed. James made fun of heroin addiction but then he went thru his sweet sixteen phase when he was trying kick alcohol for crying out loud.
Yeah they definitely did
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As they should be.
But I like Kirk a lot. Than Lars, LOL.
Even after Enter Sandman Lars Ulrich could walk around freely in public and not worry about things like Vanity Fair and his personal life being blasted anywhere and everywhere.
So could Kurt If he wanted
@@MusickopatH Not really, no.
People change. There are many artists I couldn't stand at one time and now I can respect them. Granted I'd never make fun of anyone's death or addiction but I know people are strange in the first place.
As a 55 year old guy who remembers those horrid insults to this day, this is one of those rare situations where lars to make amends for those comnents.
What do you call a pancake with arm and legs?... Cliff Burton. Not funny right?.. neither was that joke about Kurt and Lars you are the butt of everyone's joke.
Nah that was funny but a better addition is “what went bump then jump then splat..Cliffs head
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@@VicM-xc9zb exactly you laughed. I think the ban should not have said that about nirvana but still they were drunk and obviously highly intoxicated. Still no excuse.
pancakes go!
@@Sinfuldeathband I was actually laughing at your username 😂
James's growth as a person is really inspiring
that doesnt change the things that he said
@@enzopena1875 cry me a river
Kirk is actually the most humble one.
He was the one who'd appreciate other bands from other genres openly.
Remember Kirk headbanged to a Muse's song in a concert in early 2000, & called Matt Bellamy behind the staged after that.
Kirk 🤟❤
i can honestly see sir Hammett and Cobain becoming like best friends ever
and cobain been all Whiplashed by it like 'wow He is damn good'
best nirvana influencer ever thank you soundscapes!!
I'd always heard that Kirk Hammett in particular was a huge fan of Kurt's style,and was even influenced by it in his own playing going forward.
That’s just the 90s Gen X sense of humor. It could be your best friend that died an hour ago and you’d make a joke about it. That’s just how we coped.
AIC and Metallica were close. Friends rib each other. Friends don’t let friends get Friends haircuts.
I agree, a lot of people don’t know how close AIC and Metallica actually were
@@jakehodder2173and still are
Funny that Lars made that joke about the remaining members of Nirvana working at Mc Donalds. Specially when Lars' net woth is 350M y Dave Grohl´s is 330M. And I'm pretty sure that in some years, Dave's net worth will be more substantial than Mr. Ulrich's... And don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of both bands...
Kurt changed my mind about Metallica.
10:07 Please tell me where I can find the clip of Kurt talking about joining the Metallica tour.
10:19 wow it's the first time I saw image of James playing a BC Rich Guitar. Looks to be a warlock.
Kinda ironic the assumption many had that hair/ glam metal was gone forever when today there are so many newer bands that play that style and grunge is pretty much extinct.
We never went away
Also you styled like how we grew up ?
grunge is hardly extinct , it went on to influence tons and tons of different rock genres
Only thing I remember about Ulrich that he cried about money he didn't get because of internet, great man!
Dave Grohl was the link between metallica and nirvana, he was big into them see his probot project a few years ago.
Yes I agree
I definitely think Metallica helped bust the MTV bubble that was keeping edgy rock out. Amazing bands, historic bands were almost glossed over by MTV. Two titans, of the music industry, Metallica and the Grateful Dead are primary examples of bands MTV could have lived without but eventually they bith had a video and for many people, this was a first glimpse into anything beyond, the typical Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Madonna, U2, and Prince formula that MTV had partly relied on. There were some other ground breaking music videos but the under current of alternative music wouldn't be noticed by MTV until after, Metallica, One broke through with a disturbing video and amazing performance scene by the band. We're all fans, were all humans. Competition is so 30th century...
RIP Kurt❤
As a huge Nirvana Guy...
I hate anything who disrespect Kurt and Nirvana..
I wasn't before..
I just hate james now...
Whats that song at the end of the vidos the instrumental is their a full track
Band name and song name. Not sure what language it is. Very catchy. But unfortunately i will not be downloading it since it isn't English. Hope this helps!
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They were just very immature during the early 90s, I think judging by their later comments on Nirvana which seemed quite honest to me, it's pretty clear they have a lot of respect for the band so it's safe to say we can just forgive those jokes
I think was a combo of things; jealousy, Metallica was past its prime, bit immature still, grohl is and was a better drummer than Lars.
Jealous even though they were the better band?
I don't think Dave could play a 3h show like Metallica did and stuff like Battery in encore
While it doesn’t excuse the behavior (even if I have to admit it’s a pretty good joke, especially with what happened within the next couple years after with foo fighters) I think it’s at least a positive note to end on hearing Lars say as much about something he admits to not getting at first.
James Hetfield and Lars didn't seem to respect or like Kurt much, but Kirk remarked a story about Kurt at one of their shows and seemed to be cool with him
Cliff Burton introduced the guys to one of his favorite bands The Misfits back in 83 so Kurt exaggerated a little implying that it was new for Metallica to be into some punk rock. Even though Kurt wrote heavy songs he seemed to prefer light underground bands to bands that were heavy like him with a few exceptions. Nirvana & Metallica would have been great.G&R,meh.
Micheal Stipe inducted Nirvana in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Also, Metallica were friends with Alice in Chains. Metallica were at Their MTV Unplugged in 1996.
To me it seems like super jealousy and envy which they should not have been cause they were already well known by the time Nirvana started.
I remember being told Kurt was dead and i misheard it and thought they'd said Kirk. Have to admit i was relieved when i learned it was Kurt. Same thing happened with my dog and a friend of my parents 😳
Jokes are jokes. It's always fine. And Metallica were present in the crowd on AIC unplugged concert, so they knew each other and all was fine. Layne himself didn't hesitate to mock Mustayne
James Hetfield has a tendency for egomania, where he can respond to the situation and people around him with a 'one-up-manship' mentality. This would be beneficial for his practice and progression as a musician, but can get out of control in social situations.
Respect the dead... RIP ...kurt Cobain
Ill admit they were bad jokes and bad timing but theyve matured since then and im with metallica ride or die. No group ever will come out with a banger like those firdt 4 or 5 albums ever again
Nirvana’s Bleach album was very heavy and metal influenced. I liked both bands, Nirvana being my 1st influence on guitar and Metallica being very influential too. Metallica wasn’t a cock rock band and they gained more mainstream success in the early 90’s too. I think that could have sort of paved the way, but late 80’s bands like the Pixies, MBV and Sonic Youth, also did.
Everybody knows that Metallica was friends with the Aliice in chains They were in the front row the unplugged concert
*Lars jokes about Nirvana’s remaining members*
-Dave Grohl: Hold my beer
I think its disrespectful for their jokes when Kirk told a story about how excited Kurt was watching Metallica and asking him if they were going to play his favorite song of theirs, Whiplash.
As I know Nirvana was invited to go on tour with Metallica and Guns’n’Roses. They refused that…. They had an issue to becoming a big stadium band… and also Kurt and Axl weren’t nice with each other etc etc
I feel that Metallica had no right whatsoever making fun of Kurt. Especially with that what color was Kurt's eyes joke. In my opinion that would be the equivalent of someone asking "Did you like Cliff Burton?" And then someone replying "Yeah i did! But I always found him a little flat." And I'm not making fun of Cliff at all! He's literally one of my favorite bass players of all time! I'm just using what I said as an example because look how they acted about Cliffs death. Hell, they gave Jason so much sh*t and Jason literally loved Cliff and Metallica! So just imagine how they'd feel if Nirvana made that Cliff joke.
Works at McDonald's eh? That didn't age well.
That “What color is Kurt’s eyes” joke was in horrible taste! Like how would they feel if someone said “What does Cliff sound like on bass?” and then they said “He’s good, but he’s a little flat!”
Janes and Lars' jokes about Kurt and Nirvana, tasteless. But James was young and stupid. Janes in his Gran-Pa type state, he probably regrets saying what he said.
What has six arms, six legs, and wrote "My lifestyle determines my death style"? Not Kurt Cobain, that's for damn sure!
What made them change their minds about Nirvana? The money
You left singer and songwriter from James Hatfield's bip
All I'm gonna say is "St Anger" 😂
I love the Metalli-Brothers ❤ However that wasn't called for. Alice in Chains & Nirvana, Rock! 🎸🥁
They should of paid their respects for both bands that both lost their lead singers. 😢
Everyone one says something horribly stupid at one time or another Everybody is guilty They made amends
I feel like kurt would have found james joke funny not gonna lie
hetfield was out of pocket for that
James Hetfield made fun of Layne Staley because AIC supposed to tour with them, and they not because of Laynes addiction. Hetfield is a big fan of AIC and friends with Jerry. But Laynes addiction was threatned to destroy the band, one of the best bands in the 90s. Thats the reason of James behaviour and mocking Layne, which wasnt nice.
Lars Ulrich the dynamic drummer, known for his straight forward un-filtered opinion? I think they meant to say was opinion has it, that Lars Ulrich is sometimes known as a drummer, albeit straight forward and highly filtered through Pro-Tools cut and paste and drum triggering, otherwise known as skin filled meat and not much else.
Metallica is exactly what Kurt hated about men in general. Boastful. Arrogant. Machismo attitudes. Shallow. Whereas Kurt was deeply emotional and in touch with the world in a realistic way.
My rule of thumb if you’re going to grab everyone’s attention to tell a joke. You better make sure it’s actually funny. If not you’re just a jackass wasting everyone’s time.
Right 😂
AiC and Metallica were friends. You can see "friends dont let friends get hair cuts" written on an instrument on AiC unplugged. It was directed at Metallica for thier Load image. Load in itself was hugely inspired by AiC. The jokes on Nirvana were in bad taste.
When Metallica released their Load & Reload albums in the mid 1990's most of their fans felt absolutely disappointed because of such rock alternative sound Metallica compiled from different rock alternative bands. At least, the Metallica fans in my homeland couldn't believe that it was the same Metallica playing such themes. Even though Load & Reload albums were commercially successful; Metallica fans felt betrayed due to the fact that Metallica was selling itself to the alternative rock which was the most trending rock sound at the time.
The point of this is that even though the jokes on NIrvana members were quite offensive; Metallica members ended up releasing 2 albums which were completely opposite to their Trash Metal music.
Lars is like a shyster supervisor
That's why quit Metallica. The stuff they said about layne. That guy needed help.
Kurt had a loudmouth too!
Disrespected J and L after this crap , i understand situation with Dave , for my opinion D.Mustaine is a man! But I'm still understand their situation , but wth about Kurt ... They are acting like cheap nothings for real
Might been Cobain had to himself , you know as i grown person I'm trying analyzed every opinion , but Dave and Krist deserved shlt like they are said? Ffs they are (m) just commercial nothings
at that time,hetfield and ulrich were riding high on success and thought they could do and say anything and get away with it,two bastards.later,life had some lessons ahead for them.
I've always enjoyed both Metallica and Nirvana. Both for different reasons. Both offer great music and different vibes. Good music is not confined in one band or one style. Anything else, like this drama queen action and jabs, did not and does not interest me.
Ulrich is savage lol.
I was born in 92, and metallica was the first heavy band I herd. It took me until recently to fully appreciate nirvana. If they had toured together that would have been the most legendary tour of all time. Gnr sucks.
I think it’s inaccurate to say, based on a few public comments, that Kurt didn’t like Metallica early in his career and that his feelings evolved. Kurt probably always had mixed feelings about them. Nirvana’s sound was clearly influenced by metal and I am not surprised that he liked Whiplash. But he was also vehemently opposed to the sexism and machismo that accompanied metal music and wanted to distance himself from that. To complicate it further, he would often just trash things because he was in a particular mood or wanted to impress his punk rock friends. So he could easily have very different opinions depending on the context and day and I think it’s extremely reductionistic to talk as if he could only either like or dislike Metallica.
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who gives a damn about Douchy Lars's opinion anyway ?
That was f up but I'm not a metalicafan but I will say seeing nirvana live was genius and so electric for three guys look hypercritical on hell yes but when they fade in live what. Will you say to god
By the way for all that made of of a murder not sucide impossible I will say with experience drug addiction noes no bounds and colors money and family hope it's not one your kids that's coming from a clean heroin addict for if it were not for both tragic deaths they have no fn clew if you never lived it don't speak don't say shit understand .
O ya Kurt Donald Cobain the king of rock in roll the end passed on the wick to Alice in chains rock is dead , and dies in Seattle
0:23 Someone actually said Kurt cobain
What has more brains than Kurt cobain?
His wall
james and lars were complete idiots back in 80s n 90s. big respect for jason for his patience.
Ну все шутки были когда металлика были молодые. Дальше они буквально обо всех высказывались лестно. Ну кроме Бон Джови и Аксл Роуза
Cobain was much more of a music snob than the guys in Metallica in fact I first heard of Nirvana from Metallica, they have been instrumental in bringing lots of emerging music to wider attention , I first heard of Ghost through them too. Curt seemed to have this kind of "purist" attitude /persona that he tried to maintain at least publicly you can hear it when he makes the crack about Metallica wearing Misfits shirts as "giving permission" for metal heads to like them as if there is some lame un authentic "poser" intent involved instead of it just being support for cool music not a lot of people in their crowd may have been aware of yet. Cobain was kind of immature in that way.
Cobain didn’t give two fucks about Metallica. He had his own problems.
Making those jokes was horrid. Making them two months after he passed is despicable.
Kurt was a big fan of Metallica.
You can hear it in bleach.
Their netflix documentary shows metalica is stock. Full time stock. Their words
There not there when u need them and when u die they make money on it.
never liked metallica so much and to this day even more....
James is hilarious.😂😂
I didn't know Jason wrote that one.
😂😂
Fortunately, Nirvana never got the opportunity to suck.
Now that he's dead he's singing his music. Really don't sit well
Kurt would've laughed at those jokes
Who is an authentic friend with Metallica?
Lars Ulrich is not the cofounder he started the band
Ya that was fucked up James
What has four heads and hasn’t been relevant since the 1980’s? Metallica!
What band stole that Dave mustaine sound? Metallica! Har har har
They are still relevant to this day 😭
if you try to do a factual joke, at least try to make it believable.
I don’t know about since the 80’s, but they’re definitely a legacy band at this point.
If they aren’t relevant then they wouldn’t be playing for sold out stadium still