How to Set Planer Blades
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- I was asked by a subscriber to show the concept of setting the blade height in a planing machine. I show you how this is done using my HC260 and the same principle should apply to most machines. Please be sure to read and follow the instruction manual for your planer.
Thank you for making this extremely clearly explained and well shot instructional video. Although the blades in my machine are fitted entirely differently, the principle of the delightfully simple measuring procedure was the key which helped me out no end. Content of this quality is why UA-cam can be so fabulously helpful!
Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this so clearly and simply
Still relevant years on. Thank you for the attention to detail.
Thanks again for this, I have never been happy with how my new thicknesser Planer performs even after following the manufacturer’s instructions for blade setting. I used your method today and it’s like a new machine!
Great to hear!
8 years later, and still very helpful, thank you, invaluable knowlege, and a surface planer does not perform well without this correct setup, thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
7 Years later! I bought a version of the HC 260 from a friend. Mine was manufactured in 1983 according to the serial number plate. I was unsure of the method to set the blade height, and although mine works slightly different, this video gave me all the information I needed to set the blades. I've got the version with three set screws, but the test and method is similar enough. Thank you Peter.
Hi Anton, I bought mine new in 1990 and it was excellent value for money. Cheers. Peter
I inherited one of these some 30+ years ago. While I have used it on a few occasions, I have now made proper space for it and plumed the power in properly. Was always scared of adjusting or replacing the blades but now feel far more confident. Just going to order a new set of blades now I know how to fit them. Thanks for explaining everything.
Hi Dave, Excellent. Cheers. Peter
Got the exact same planer thicknesser a few months ago this is a fantastic instructional video thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic solution Peter. Simple and precise. Very much appreciated.
Hi Jon, Good luck with your woodwork. Cheers. Peter
Wow Peter thanks so much for such an informative lesson on blade strings and simple procedure. My machine is more than 30 old, but I was never explained how to do this function accurately. Especially setting the blades with the wood grid lines. I always stumbled along with my own method. Now I can measure my cuts for more accurate cuts on different woods. This makes so much more sense.
Glad it was helpful!
I have the identical planer, and always refer back to this video, before I change my blades.
Thanks Peter. A very easy to follow description on how to tune up my "just purchased" thicknesser planer. The 5mm and 10mm makes it very straightforward. Cheers.
David Handley Cheers David. Peter
Thank you sir, just bought a HC260 myself and need to switch blades. I now feel completely comfortable doing that. Well done.
Hi Martin, Good luck. Peter
Hi, I just signed in to say I bought a new (crappy) planer/jointer and the blades were so skewed that I was about to burn the machine or take it back to the store (whichever comes first) because I heard people say it's too difficult to tune a planer. Then I bumped into your video guide and now I am happy with my planer. Thank you very much!!
Excellent. Peter
hi Peter.
i was given the same model planer and was really worried about changing blades.
simple no nonsense instruction.
brilliant.
well done.
Hi Joe, Many thanks for the excellent feedback. Peter
Great video,very informative & precise, going into my workshop now to change the blades , a job I have been putting off for too long
Good luck!
Thank you for a very clear and precise explanation. I bought a DeWalt DW 1150 a few years back and have recently unearthed it and put it in my new workshop. It looks to be exactly the same set up as your machine and is probably of a similar age. I feel confident now to set it up. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant !!! Thanks very much. I'm a novice that has just bought a new but poorly adjusted cheep Triton machine, now I can set it up accurately. I love the system with the stick and pencil lines, at the start of the video I couldn't work out what they were for but as you used them, the beauty, accuracy and simplicity I found astounding. Thanks for sharing and very well explained.
Hi Ian, Thank you for the kind words. Peter
va multumesc, am reglat masina mea de rindeluit folosind explicatiile dumneavoastra, merge pefect. Va doresc multa sanatate .
Hi Dan, Excelent - multe mulțumiri. Cheers. Peter
Great video I'm getting my first jointer / planer. Tommorow and I was a bit nervous about setting up the blades but I'm alot more confident now.. Thank you
Hi Roy, Good luck tomorrow. Peter
Thank you Peter for a great blade set up video, i wonder can you please show how to adjust and set up the top tables. please?
Hi Gary, I am sorry but I sold that planer a very long time ago. However, try this video from Mitch Peacock:
ua-cam.com/video/3MV0mxVRZpc/v-deo.html
Peter
Mr Peter you are a STAR ⭐️ thanks I have exactly the same very well looking after
Glad to help. Peter
I've just taken delivery of and old DeWalt DW1150 from my brother-in-law. So looking forward to using it. He bought it new many years ago for only a couple of jobs. It's in really good condition. I will change the blades and give a little TLC. Love your explanation here. Thanks for sharing Peter :-)
Hope you enjoy it! If you are new to planing machines then take care and watch your safety. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Thanks for the advice Peter. I am new. I'm gonna re-watch your planner videos and read up the things appropriate to my machine.
Thanks for this video. I used the same principle to set the blades on an ancient Makita hand planer. It was a very tedious job because the location of the double sided blades in the setting block didn't have a screw adjustment feature. I had to set a protrusion using a micrometer and trial and error. It took several hours but I got there in the end. I would hope Makita have improved the design for their latest models.
Hi Trevor, Yes, that sort of blade fixing is a pain. Cheers. Peter
That is just awesome, Sir. I've bought a planer a few weeks ago and now when the new blades arrived I wanted to find a tutorial on how to set them right. The fun part is by accident I have now the same kind of machine like you have.
Thank you for sharing.
+h4z4rd42 Excellent. Peter
Thank you! This is genius! I was worried that I don't have the tools to position my blades, but this method is so simple, thank you!
Glad it helped!
Many thanks for posting this video Peter. It gave me the confidence to undertake a blade change - something I wasn't looking forward to. Although there are some differences in the way the blades are adjusted on my Metabo HC260 I managed to achieve successful outcome!
Hi Darrel, That is great - many thanks for letting me have this feedback. Peter
Thanks very much for sharing this, I have watched a few videos on setting up my planer blades and have just used your method with a piece of wood and lines across the table and it has worked great. This is the first time I have set up the blades and will definitely use this method in the future. Thanks again.
Hi Allan, Brilliant. Many thanks for letting me know. Peter
Very fine instruction. My HC-260 is also about 20 year old and in need of service. I'm hoping Metabo ( here in the States) can service this plow horse of a machine.
Metabo bailed on providing service...very disappointed. I did find Ideal Machine Repair in Phila who quickly resolved the issues. You dropped the ball Metabo...thought you were the cadillac of tools....no longer !
Thank you for your very prompt reply Peter what I will do is apply for a new fence plate and see if they come with it. I am thinking about the safety side of things as the fence need to be very tight when pushing any wood across it once again many thanks and keep up the brilliant work you do
Thank you so much for this! My instructions (scheppach hms1070) are poor, this has clarified them perfectly.
Glad it helped!
@@NewBritWorkshop as it happens, I discovered that the supplied strange looking item was intended to set the blades. I used it, perfect! My machine doesn't have the adjustment screws at either end and relies on the springs in the block to push the knife to against the supplied setting arms. Your video perfectly suited my last planer - wish I'd seen it before I struggled. Thanks again
Very useful video well presented. Thank you.
Hi Peter,
Watched this film last night and used it to set up my planer thicknesser perfectly today. Very simple and well presented video. Didn't have to refer back once which shows how easy it was to follow.
Thanks for the help.
Richard
***** Many thanks for the feedback Richard. Peter
A very thorough and instructional video, Peter.
I agree that this is fine for a stand-alone planer (jointer). But for a combined machine, there is a risk of mis-setting the knives in relation to the thicknesser bed, if the cutter block happens to be out of parallel with the top outfeed table.
Great video thank you, I set my planer up on the basis of what you have done and its working a treat. Cheers
Hi Lewis, That is great news, cheers. Peter
Very clear and instructive video- many thanks!
Miles Ashley Cheers Miles. Peter
no nonsense tutorial, sorted mine out, thanks!
Cheers. Peter
Thx mate, all it took was someone to explain the setup correctly to me, as this video does, I will now set up my own 240v hand held planer as my blades are to low going off what you say, and this is causing a bump and uneven cut in the wood, hard to explain! but I now know whats wrong in my setup, my blades are to low in relation to the fixed flat bed.
Thx Paul
Hi Paul, Many thanks for the feedback. Peter
Thanks a lot for this very well explained tutorial. I will try to install and adjust my new blades this weekend.
Hi Torsten, It should be easy using this method. Good luck. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Hi Peter, your blades can be adjusted with the allen key. But unfortunately my planing machine don't has this possibility, so it's a little more difficult for me.
Hi Torsten, Take care, especially to ensure that the blades are firmly held before you start the machine. Peter
Excellent tutorial Sir.
Many thanks
Excellent explanation, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your tips on blades sets all the best john.
Thanks very much for this video Peter, the time has come to change the blades on my SIP equivalent machine and this video will help me out immensely.
Excellent explanation Peter, clear and concise well done, big thumbs up.
Really well presented and very helpful thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop I was given an old Naerok Jointer/Planer which is probably as old if not older than your machine. I used your guidance to replace the blades and the results are fantastic I'm so chuffed I can't thank you enough
Exzellent Description, many thanks to you !
Hi Hein, Thank you so much. Cheers. Peter
Thank you for a very clear, informative and helpful video tutorial, Mr. Parfitt.
Hi John, Glad to help. Peter
My surface planer has recently developed some snipe on the trailing edge of the board.
Back to the video to check my setup is right. I suspect my knives are set too high / above my outfeed
Thanks Peter, very thorough explanation, thank you.
Excellent presentation. Thank you
Peter,
Ontzettend nuttige video! Ik heb vandaag een Electra beckum te leen gekregen waarvan de messen behoorlijk verkeerd staan. Zonder deze video zou het nooit gelukt zijn om ze correct te positioneren. Heel erg bedankt!
Gerard
gerard kiers Hi Gerard, Ik ben blij dat deze video die u zal helpen. Veel geluk. Cheers. Peter
New Brit Workshop Bedankt, met deze vlak/vandikte bank gaat dat zeker lukken!
Gerard
Thank you for the prompt reply. Much appreciated.
Thanks Peter, i have a record pt260 , looks very much the same machine , so ill try your method . You tutorials are great by the way .... thankyou
Hi Ted, The design is almost identical and I suspect some of parts would be interchangeable. Cheers. Peter
Excellent explanation - Thanks
Hi David, Cheers. Peter
Thank you for teaching us!
Hi Eugen, Many thanks. Cheers. Peter
Thanks Peter for your swift reply, I have just set up my new blades as per the video and tolerances are excellent, I am struggling with tear out on some white oak where I have undulating grain around knots etc even with taking off very little material but maybe it is hard to avoid
Hi Phil, I am afraid that some pieces of wood, and not just oak, can have alternating grain along the length of a piece. Taking very fine cuts will help. Really sharp planer blades are important too but you have just replaced yours - are you sure that the new blades are indeed sharp? If I am unable to get a good finish on a piece because of tear out I rely on the sanding phase to sort it out. Good luck. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop
I may remove them and sharpen them myself, make a jig or send them away. Many thanks again Peter
Kind regards
Phil
Great video, such a professional! 👍
Thank you! 👍
Excellent presentation Peter . Thank you very much
Many thanks. Peter
Thank you !
Thank you for this! Very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Dear, check this. I bought a nice clean hc260, and guess what, the measuring lines were already there marked by the previous owner. All the best for you, take care!!
Hi Gary, Yes I sometimes get snipe and it is usually when I am in a hurry. Try feeding in carefully keeping the wood flat against the bottom bed and then support it properly on the outfeed. Peter
Very good lesson
Thank you! 😃
I have the Metabo version of this planer and I set it up as instructed in this video and it's not planing perfectly. Thanks Peter
Chris L Hi Chris, In what way is it not working properly? Peter
I have no idea why I wrote "not"! It is in fact planing perfectly. I had a senior moment I think.
Chris L Thank goodness for that - glad it worked out well. Peter
Excellent,thank you.
Hi Seamus, Glad to be of help. Peter
Thank you for this video, I have the same machine myself and its great to see how you set the blades, I use much the same technique myself. I would love to see a similar video of how you adjust the fixed out feed and adjustable indeed beds to ensure they are aligned correctly.
Hi Bob, I am afraid that I sold this machine about 4 years ago and no longer have access to anything similar. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Hello, is this a good machine. I know someone who is selling it second hand as you don't get them anymore but are these machines dead accurate.
Hi Ziyaad, The machine cannot be described as dead accurate unless you make sure that it is set up properly. It is not a patch on the Jet 260 but that is well over double the price. I suggest that you ask to see the machine demonstrated in order to ensure that it is as good as you expect. Be prepared to replace or certainly sharpen the blades. Check for wear on the drive belt and also check the bearings on the various pulleys (see if they wobble). Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Hello, Thank you for your response. All in all is it a good machine to buy to get square stock?
Hi Ziyaad, I managed with mine for 15 years from new and it was really good. Peter
Really great tutorial. Thank you.
many thanks. Peter
Really usefully video, thanks. Why 5mm and why a specific length of wood? Is it something specific to the type of jointer and how much the blade should stand proud of the outfeed?
The 5 mm is pretty much the agreed distance and the length is about right. These dimensions should do for any jointer.
Thank you for the kind comments.
Peter
Thank you very much. This was great help.
Glad it helped!
That was very usefull advise thanks!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful video, nice and clear instructions, thank you.
Hi Seasend, Delighted to help. Peter
Thanks - great Video
Glad it was helpful!
Very clearly explained and extremely helpful. Thank you.
Hi Tim, I think that it is because the blade and its support are wedge shaped and as the cutter head is spinning it is being forced tight against the inside of the cutter block. Peter
was very anxious, thank u v much professor
I am glad to help. Peter
Thank you for this video. I own the same machine and I would like to know where you purchase these blades.
Regards.
Jean-François Lepeudry
I too have had pain in the financial nether regions since starting my Bessey and Festool passion. I also am fluent in trunks and hoods having spent 2 years in Canada and, what feels like, half my life visiting Washington DC. We Brits like to think that we are masters of the English language but that is not true. Some of the very best old English terminology still used in North America (sidewalk, faucet). I have also had my written English corrected several times by my (then) German boss! Peter
Great video nice and clear thanks
Thank you. Peter
Very clever
Thank you so much
You are welcome. Peter
Thanks a lot
Hi. I'm new to woodworking and found your channel a few weeks ago. This video has helped so much. I just bought my first cheap planer from screwfix and out of the box it was useless and the instructions didn't help. Watched your video and applied it to my Titan and its wonderful. The difference is night and day. Can't thank you enough for this guide. Great for newbies like me.
Hi Andrew, My aim is to help people, especially those that are just starting or who are stuck with something. I am so glad to have been able to help you. Cheers. Peter
Great video.. 1 question though.. When setting ur blades here what height is ur in feed table.. Is it at the highest or lowest or in the middle.. My planer cuts a maximum of 2mm..sud I set mine at 0mm..1mm..or 2mm
Hi Paul, I think it was close to or just over 1 mm - it was a long time ago !! Cheers. Peter
Een goede informatieve video!
Het instellen van de messen is lastig, maar in deze video prima verwoord en gedaan.
Goede handige tips! Bedankt!
Ik heb zelf een Powerplus 204 machine, maar ze komen allemaal het zelfde over.
willy w Hi Willy, Heel erg bedankt - ik ben blij dat de video nuttig is geweest . Mijn groeten aan iedereen in uw mooie land. Heb je mijn fietsen video gezien ? Peter
New Brit Workshop Nee! Maar dat ga ik wel zeker doen.
Keep up the good job
willy w Cheers Peter
New Brit Workshop Mensen zoals u die een ambacht beoefenen zijn helaas schaars aan het worden.
Het wordt in de toekomst een zeldzaamheid.
Cheers!
willy w Je bent erg aardig - ik doe mijn best om andere mensen te helpen . Peter
Thank You.
Thank you thank you and thank you....That's all I can say for you sir :) You helped me alot...Thank you once again.
You are most welcome. Cheers. Peter
perfect, this helps me a lot!
Glad to hear it!
Great video. Thank you very much. I also have a 20 year old HC260. Believe it or not I have not done anything to the blades in all that time, but they clearly need resharpening now. Do you have any advice regarding disposable or resharpenable blades?
Hi Steve, When I bought my 260 I also bought the tungsten blades. The disposable and normal steel blades are okay but need to be sharpened a lot more than tungsten (perhaps 10 times more often). For me it costs the same to sharpen steel and tungsten and so the tungsten pay for themselves in a very short time. If the disposable blades are less than the price of sharpening other blades then go for it. Otherwise try and get tungsten. I have now fitted tungsten blades to my Jet planer and the difference is amazing. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop It seems that no one sells "disposable" blades with the slots in them. I can understand why with the double sided ones. Where can you get tungsten these days? The only slotted blades I can see are HSS /w 18% Cobalt.
Very useful guide, thank you very much :-)
Last post for now, sorry, I'm new at these things. My request for the manual clearly is directed at anyone with a copy of same, and not just Peter the professor. Please, Thanks. BOZ
Hi peter I just recently brought myself a Electra Beckum HC260 I can't tighten the fence up so I referred to your video on how to set the blades up and I noticed that your Electra has two small bars under the fence sitting on the fence plate mine do not have these and my gut feeling is that's why I can't tighten mine I've been back to the seller and he does not have these please can you tell me where to get them and what they are called or what I can use as a alternative. I've watched so many of your videos now and there is still much more for me to watch I do hope you do many more
martin dickerson Hi Martin, Those bars were firmly attached to my old HC260 I am afraid and I do not believe that Elektra Beckum ever sold a machine without. If there is a recess where you think that they should go you could experiment with some metal bar material (take the fence with you when you go to buy it). When you have the right fit fix it in place by screws from underneath and that might work. If you are in doubt, and with safety in mind, do consult your dealer or an expert. I am sorry that I cannot be more helpful. My HC260 was sold a long time ago and so I can't look closely at mine to give you any better advice. Good luck. Peter
Seemed easy enough. Have you ever used magnetic jigs for blade set up?
Yes, I have two variations and neither are worth the money. Just trust your own judgement and follow the method that I have shown. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop reason I ask is because your method seems a lot easier than it would be to set up the jigs themselves. I’ll have to give this a go.
A+, thanks!
Thank you Peter I’ve just bought a second hand record machine and needs setting up properly. It appears to be a copy of that machine. Does yours have cast iron beds though or aluminium? My aluminium beds had a coating on them that was all flaking off and I’ve wondered if I can sand it off and oil it, or if it needs surfacing so it’s more accurate?
Hi Michael, I sold my machine a very long time ago but, yes, it did have aluminium beds. Mine were not coated at all. I cannot advise you how to clean off the flaking coating. Be careful using any form of abrasive. Try using a stiff plastic scraper and maybe experiment with various types of solvent. Take care not to risk a fire when running the machine afterwards and avoid getting any form of solvent on the gearing (oiled screw parts) or belts. Good luck. Peter
Hello Peter thanks for a wonderful video. I live near Toronto in Canada, have recently purchased an HC260 2nd (3rd?, 4th?) nade planer/thicknesser, and have been very happy with it so far. I have not been able to find replacement, sharpenable cutters/blades. I ordered disposable blades for it, but they do not fit the existing lock block I have (I assume because it is designed for replacement, not disposable, blades). Can you please suggest where I could find replacement sharpenable blades? Thanks for your help.
Hi Paul, I am way out of date with that planer but the company was bought out by Metabo who continue to make the machine. I am not sure what changes may have been made but start your research with Metabo. Good luck. Peter
Great video thank you. Any chance you can do a video on how to calibrate the thicknesser on this model?
I am sorry but I sold that machine 10 years ago. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Not a problem, thank you for the message. Have a good one.
Thanks.. smashing
Awesome video, thanks. I just purchased a HC 260 :) is this 5mm setting not dependent from the height of the adjustable metal plate (the infeed jointer plate)?
Hi Negao, Do it from the other side - I think ! peter
Thanks☺
You're welcome!
Hello Peter,
I have recently purchased a 20-something year old Elektra Beckum planer/thicknesser which appears to be in good condition although I have had to replace the cutter bolts that were rounded. My cutters are the thick ones with one cutting edge which looks very much like yours, and they are in good condition.. How often have you had to replace your cutters in the years that you have owned the machine?
Hi Patrick, When I bought mine the option was for either double sided disposable blades or single sided Tungsten and I opted for the latter. If yours are Tungsten then with average hobby use they will go for 4 years between sharpening unless you have a mishap with a nail or embedded stone. If they are HSS then you should get 6 months to a year from them. I used to pay about £20 to get them sharpened. Peter
Thanks for the clear demonstration Peter. I spent this Sunday trying to do the same thing to my Metabo version of the machine.! I've tried finessing the adjustment of the blades (as well as changing them!) and adjusting the roller tension but have never managed to remove snipe when thicknessing. For surface planing the machine works fine. I was wondering do you get snipe ( more wood planed off the start and ends of the piece than the rest) when using your machine as a thicknesser?
Thks
Thanks Peter...I have the same Machine. Never used one before, but have used a Bosch paner. The principle of feeding over the planer table I took as with the hand planer. No downward pressue at all on the end, to prevent Sniping. Alas this was the case each time , despite the dial setting saying less than a mm. I got it used. Could the blade be the issue? To high maybe. The snipe, despite no pressure is ca 1 mm. Violent slightly... Cheers for any advice...I will give your tip a go.
Hi Dave, Are you supporting the wood as it comes out of the planer? You should try to do this without exerting upward pressure but just enough support to keep it level as it finishes the thicknessing. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop the peices were only 45 cm long. I Slide them along over the blades and transfered the holding on the part that had past the blade, flat too the table. Each time it seemed to fall and cut a snipe... table was set to remove less than a mm. I have levelled the two tables useing a straight edge. Then I rolled the blade cylinder so that the blade reached its highest apex. The blade is 2 mm higher than the two levelled table sides.. The locking slide levers are tight. Nothing loose.
Try a longer piece of wood, say 600 mm long, and see if you can control the snipe that way. It sounds as though you have done all of the right things. I remember a long time ago watching a video on UA-cam that helped to cure snipe. Try doing a search and see what you find. Good luck. Peter