These Top 5 Cities DESERVE An NFL Expansion Team..Tell Me I'm Wrong!!

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  • @TrueFootballFan
    @TrueFootballFan 7 місяців тому +6

    Good list

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching, Glad you think so! Let me know what other videos you would like to see...I'm open for suggestions!

  • @robserrano8971
    @robserrano8971 7 місяців тому +6

    8 TEAMS ONE IN EACH DIVISION. PORTLAND LUMBERJAX, SACRAMENTO CONDORS, UTAH SWARM, SAN ANTONIO VALIANTS, OKLAHOMA OUTLAWS, OMAHA TWISTERS, VIRGINIA COLONIALS AND PUERTO RICO ISLANDERS. REALIGNMENT OF DIVISIONS MIGHT BE NEEDED TOO.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому +3

      @robserrano8971, I think you might have just cracked the code!!

    • @robserrano8971
      @robserrano8971 6 місяців тому +1

      @@NFLHardCountOfficial hopefully it happens

  • @MrJuanno42
    @MrJuanno42 7 місяців тому +7

    I wouldn’t be opposed to Mexico City or Toronto. I think the only thing with Mexico City is the elevation. It’s over 2,000ft higher than Denver!

  • @kejavu6403
    @kejavu6403 7 місяців тому +3

    Omaha is a quickly growing city. once it grows larger I think it could support Pro Sports, especially the NFL given how Nebraska has historically supported the Cornhuskers.

  • @jdredwine7224
    @jdredwine7224 6 місяців тому +5

    They should add 4 teams. 6 divisions of 6. NFC/AFC East or North, NFC/AFC Central or South, NFC/AFC West. My cities are San Antonio, St Louis, Toronto, Mexico City.

    • @adamevans998
      @adamevans998 4 місяці тому

      Adding four teams and going to six 6-team divisions is interesting. Some questions:
      1.) Do you keep seven teams advancing to the playoffs in each conference or drop back to a more natural six team playoff (the top two teams in each division OR three division winners and the teams with the next three best records)?
      2.) Do you keep the international teams in the same conference/division?
      3.) If/when the next expansion comes, most likely with 4 more teams to make an even 40 teams, would it make sense to go back to 8 divisions of 5 teams per division? Then, how many playoff teams would make sense?

    • @jdredwine7224
      @jdredwine7224 4 місяці тому +1

      @@adamevans998 I think with 36 teams 7 team playoff is still fine. I think If they ever go to 40 teams then they would need to expand the playoffs. If we ever have an international division it would be 4 European based teams that would most likely be teams 37-40 and it would make that early morning time slot a thing.

    • @adamevans998
      @adamevans998 4 місяці тому

      @@jdredwine7224 So, in keeping 7 playoff teams in each conference, what would your format be? Some choices would be:
      1.) 3 division winners, 3 second place teams, 1 wild card
      2.) 3 division winners, 4 wild cards based on record
      3.) 7 best records, regardless of division

    • @jdredwine7224
      @jdredwine7224 4 місяці тому

      @@adamevans998 I prefer 2, but they will probably go 1.

    • @sampicano
      @sampicano 4 місяці тому +2

      San Diego over Mexico City.
      - gives San Diego their team back (it's the largest US city without a team)
      - on border with Tijuana and still gives the Mexican market a team to cheer for

  • @WestCoastbro91
    @WestCoastbro91 7 місяців тому +5

    I feel like Utah should’ve been on this list

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah that’s a good one. Salt Lake City would be a good option for an expansion team!

  • @anncase8673
    @anncase8673 7 місяців тому +3

    Nice list, but another big one is Alabama because of how well the Birmingham Stallions are doing and how popular the college football scene is
    For a San Antonio team, something I've been tinkering with was the San Antonio Coyotes because Texas has the most coyotes in the U.S. density wise; I'd say their colors would be maybe tan-ish, black, and white. Besides San Antonio's football stadium, the Alamodome, was literally built to coax the NFL to the city

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      I like it! Might as well just have the NFL buy the Birmingham Stallions from the UFL. Then the UFL can get more west coast teams in their league. Everybody wins!

    • @anncase8673
      @anncase8673 7 місяців тому

      ​@NFLHardCountOfficial UFL doesn't even have any West coast teams though there are talks they're considering expansion to increase weekly revenue

  • @theprolificnetwork4670
    @theprolificnetwork4670 7 місяців тому +3

    One thing you're over looking is that the NFL has to expand 8 teams at once to keep the divisions balanced.
    They should use the UFL teams for expansion. Bring The
    1. SA Brahamas since Washington took the Commander name.
    2. St.L Battlehawks
    3. Omaha Nighthawks or Mammoths
    4. USFLs Outlaws
    5. London Monarchs
    6. Barcelona Dragons
    7. Breakers back in Portland
    to give the Seahawks a regional rival
    8. Stallions once and for all so springs leagues stop making it a pitstop.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for watching, glad you liked the video! I actually thought about the UFL concept and even considered the NFL adopt the Premier League rules where the bottom 2-3 teams are downgraded to the UFL and they are replaced by the team(s) who are in the UFL championship. I don't know, but I think it's possible that Birmingham could give the Carolina Panthers a close game, lol! Just a concept though, I don't think the NFL would ever consider it.

    • @skywalkerthom1733
      @skywalkerthom1733 7 місяців тому

      Portland lmaoo nobody is bringing anything to that dumpster fire liberal city

  • @Rogerland99
    @Rogerland99 3 місяці тому +1

    Agree with San Antonio and Mexico City. IMHO most of the other cities suggested are just in too small of a market to be viable, or have other issues (see Portland/politics). I see the NFL eventually expanding from 32 to 40 teams, add a whole 4 team division in Europe (London & Manchester from the UK, and Berlin and Frankfurt from Germany). Group travel for games in Europe into 4 week home-stands and 4 week away trips while in N. America. Then in N. America, add 4 more teams, along with San Antonio and Mexico City, add teams in Toronto, and San Diego. The modern NFL wants large markets, deep pockets for state of the art stadiums and travel destinations.

  • @colemichalski5361
    @colemichalski5361 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the short history lesson about Tulsa! I don't agree that the city should have a team but I enjoyed your take.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for watching! Much appreciated. More videos soon to come.

  • @H4Z3YT
    @H4Z3YT 7 місяців тому +3

    cali has 3 used to be 4 so texas with 3 would not be the most in the country

  • @fabianugalde3789
    @fabianugalde3789 2 місяці тому +1

    I would love to see the NFL expand to Toronto and Mexico City, but I think they need to first give teams to other cities like St. Louis, Omaha, San Antonio, San Juan, even Juneau or Hawaii first to allow the country to have more variety as there are certain regions that are largely ignored imo

    • @fabianugalde3789
      @fabianugalde3789 2 місяці тому +1

      The other thing is that I am from Mexico City, and I know there are some geographic and political issues that need to be addressed first

  • @matthewwears7610
    @matthewwears7610 5 місяців тому +1

    I think the NFL will eventually put a team in Mexico City, London and Frankfurt, cities they have already played games in. But I think Oklahoma City deserves a team, I think Mobile could also support a team

  • @johncOU812
    @johncOU812 7 місяців тому +5

    Toronto ,Canada? 5th largest city in North America/ Football is adored here!

    • @jibbjabb43
      @jibbjabb43 7 місяців тому +2

      Canada is hard unless it's a larger package.

  • @CurtisDavis-ok1eq
    @CurtisDavis-ok1eq 4 місяці тому

    So Much Feeling!

  • @JNewt-gq5lq
    @JNewt-gq5lq 7 місяців тому

    Glad one of these expansion conversations is FINALLY acknowledging the Hampton Roads area. Fan base could also be drawn from the Richmond metro area, as well. There is a plethora of mascot options that would be an ode to the military (particularly Navy) presence. The Admirals would be great but is already a minor league hockey team in the area. I'd prefer Hornets as a tribute to the squadrons of F-18s based in the region.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! That part of Virginia is prime location and just makes perfect sense. I like your name the Hornets. I also thought of the Warriors, Warthogs (for the USAF A-10s), or the Frogmen for the fellas working in Virginia Beach.

  • @GTcook15
    @GTcook15 3 місяці тому

    San Diego over Oakland imo. My list would be Virginia beach(area),Toronto, Omaha and either Austin or San Antonio. But feel st Louis and san Diego deserve a team first. Cool video and good list 👌

  • @Homedepotorange
    @Homedepotorange 5 місяців тому +2

    St. Louis deserves one. We dont want one. To hell with NFL

    • @nickmiller2065
      @nickmiller2065 Місяць тому

      Good cause we all know what happened the first two times you had an NFL team

  • @bryancocchiola9868
    @bryancocchiola9868 3 місяці тому

    Hmm. The games in London is understandable, but the Packer game in Brazil couldn’t be further from the truth. Then again, I do have 4 extended ones:
    1) San Juan Warriors
    2) Toronto Mountiees
    3) Portland Lumberjacks
    4) Mexico City Conquistadors.
    5) Albuquerque Coral Snakes
    6) Omaha Space Corns
    7) San Antonio Desperados
    And 8) Orlando Paladins

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 4 місяці тому +1

    Toronto, Canada

  • @martyreyes5010
    @martyreyes5010 7 місяців тому +3

    Mexico City and San Antonio are probably the best 2 in my opinion.

  • @michaelstallings5824
    @michaelstallings5824 7 місяців тому

    i /m kind of confused,in the beginning you said that you were not including cities that had past nfl teams? st.louis has had 2, the cardnials,and rams..i think most vities on the list are likely future ufl possabilities

    • @michaelstallings5824
      @michaelstallings5824 7 місяців тому

      i agree mexico city is a possability or even london i think the nfl will go international with their next expansions,,i could see them giving san diego another whirl.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      Exactly, which is why St. Louis is not on my list. St. Louis is easily a top choice for an NFL expansion but this video is for brand new cities that have NOT had an NFL team before.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      Yes, I agree. Toronto is a good option too!

    • @michaelstallings5824
      @michaelstallings5824 7 місяців тому

      @@NFLHardCountOfficial i don't think they would go into an established cfl market, windsor, may be better

  • @adamboal
    @adamboal 7 місяців тому +2

    Tulsa metro area is only 1 Million people, that and not city population is the relevant stat, as a whole metro or even statistical area support a team, not just the city. I think Jacksonville is about 50 percent larger than that and they have struggled. I am leaving out Green Bay because they literally pull from the whole state. I feel like if Oklahoma did get one, OKC is the more logical location

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for watching and I think that is a very fair take. OKC would make a more feasible option vs Tulsa. But, I picked Tulsa primarily on the history of that town and with the hopes of redeveloping Tulsa into another Black Wall Street. Might be wishful thinking though.

    • @chaseminter3773
      @chaseminter3773 7 місяців тому

      Okc is only an hour and half away, Roger’s ark is like 2 hours , they would sell out

  • @alexlarsen2464
    @alexlarsen2464 4 місяці тому

    Utah has been the fastest growing state since 2010. The wasatch front has 2.6 million people and growing every day. They have great support for their nba and mls teams. They also heavily support 2 big12 universities close to each other. They just got a nhl team as well. The nfl and mlb view Utah as a good investment with such growth and fan support. I don’t think the fan support for other pro football leagues translates to potential support for a nfl team.

  • @Huna98
    @Huna98 7 місяців тому

    st louis fan here. was broken when they left. we still are.
    half of us want and nfl team back the other half of us have sworn off the nfl (if they screwed us over twice, whats stopping the third?)

  • @adamdebord1897
    @adamdebord1897 5 місяців тому

    Since Houston didn’t revive the Oilers name, and Oil is a major part of the economy of Oklahoma, especially Tulsa, that could work. Or you could do a reference to the major weather of Oklahoma and go with a good alliterative name, calling it the Tulsa Twisters.

  • @haruspex1-50
    @haruspex1-50 3 місяці тому

    We need a team here in London.

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    Old UFL had the Virginia Destroyers there.

  • @sampicano
    @sampicano 7 місяців тому +1

    #1 Toronto, Canada - the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area has over 7,281,694 people...
    by comparison the second largest city in Canada Montreal only has (4,291,732 people) and the third largest city in Canada Vancouver only has (2,642,825 people).
    - Toronto (1st largest city in Canada/US without an NFL team)
    - Toronto already has NBA, MLB, NHL and MLS teams, and each one of them is top 10 in valuations.
    - the NFL is MUCH more popular in Toronto than CFL is...
    - an NFL team in Toronto would be instantly worth $5 Billion dollars...
    #2 San Antonio or Austin, Texas - there are over 30,503,301 million people in Texas...Texas can 100% support another NFL team, and NO Jerry Jones had no say in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL...and he will have NO SAY when San Antonio or Austin gets a team.
    - San Antonio is the 4th largest US city without an NFL team (2,703,999 people)
    - Austin is the 6th largest US city without an NFL team (2,473,275 people)
    - these cities are approximately 70 miles apart, the halfway point New Braunfels would be approximately 40-45 minute drive from either San Antonio or Austin
    - Texas is the most diehard football state...and two MAJOR markets without NFL teams are only 40 minutes apart...that's a no brainer.
    #3 San Diego, California - the Chargers should have never left California, that was a mistake, LA does not NEED or WANT two NFL teams, and they have demonstrated that they support the Rams, not the Chargers, the Chargers should go back the San Diego-Tijuana/Mexican market is SO MASSIVE to turn down...there are 3.2 million people in San Diego and 2.1 million people in Tijuana....I don't understand why the owner wants to be the second most popular football team in Los Angeles instead of the most popular in San Diego/Mexico
    - San Diego is the 1st largest US city without an NFL team (3,269,973 people)
    - Tijuana is across the boarder from San Diego and has an additional (2,157,853 people)
    - the NFL desperately wants to expand into Mexico, and a team in San Diego gives 2 million Mexicans in Tijuana a team to cheer for, this is the best way to gain interest in Mexico (Mexico City is too high altitude for an NFL team) San Diego would be the PERFECT way to introduce the game to Mexicans...what a missed opportunity
    #4 St. Louis, Missouri - poor St. Louis, they lost the Cardinals (1987) and the Rams in (2015), they did not deserve to lose the Rams, but Los Angeles was a better market than St. Louis, it doesn't mean St. Louis is a BAD market
    - St. Louis is the 3rd largest US city without an NFL team 2,796,999 people (only San Diego and Orlando have more people)
    - why does St. Louis deserve a third team? where else would you go? San Diego and Orlando are the ONLY larger markets in the US without NFL teams, and Florida and California already have 3 NFL teams each....
    - St. Louis battlehawks in the XFL averaged 35,104 attendance last year, and averaged 34,365 attendace this year...by comparison the next best attended XFL team only averaged 14,143 people....2.5 times less than St. Louis averages....they LOVE FOOTBALL and they are STARVED FOR PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL
    - Los Angeles deserves a football team, but San Diego and St. Louis should have never relocated...

  • @joeyvalentino7
    @joeyvalentino7 11 днів тому

    Keep NFL franchises in America. Sure, the overseas games do well but it’s a once, maybe twice a year novelty for the fans in those countries. I seriously doubt London, Berlin or Mexico City fans would support a team that hasn’t had a winning season in 5 years. They really don’t want football like we do, the same way Americans don’t really want soccer as much as the Europeans

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 4 місяці тому

    DAMN STRAIGHT, TULSA, OKLAHOMA! BRING BACK OUR OKLAHOMA OUTLAWS BABY!

  • @melvinpretlow7921
    @melvinpretlow7921 3 місяці тому

    San Antonio Outlaws. Red black and white

  • @RickyMatthews-b7h
    @RickyMatthews-b7h 6 місяців тому

    San Antonio - No too many teams in Texas, Portland, Oregon - Yes, Omaha, Nebraska- Yes, Hampton - No, Tulsa, Oklahoma- No , San Juan, Puerto Rico - No, Mexico City, Mexico - No. To do this right We’ve got to go far beyond normal, and bring in the New NFL : With 44 Teams : European Division- Amsterdam Admirals, Barcelona Dragons,Berlin Thunder, Cologne Centurions, England Monarchs, Frankfurt Galaxy, Hamburg Sea Devils, Rhein Fire, and then add in the St Louis Battlehawks, ,Omaha Knights Portland Sea Dragons, Oklahoma Outlaws . Now You’ve got a Global Team Framework and 4 new Cities to add into the mix of the New World NFL. Playing 44 Teams and could place another 6 to go to 50 Teams, Like Birmingham Stallions, Memphis Sounds,, New Mexico Golden Aztecs, Cheyenne Warriors, Arkansas Twisters, Montana Black Bears.

  • @DonaldMains
    @DonaldMains 9 днів тому

    Good April fools joke.

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    San Juan? Hurricanes, and I'm not naming the team.

  • @brianabaker2153
    @brianabaker2153 Місяць тому

    St. Louis is a baseball town. They have lost the Rams and the Cardinals.

  • @757CitiesReppa
    @757CitiesReppa 6 місяців тому

    Hampton Roads metro is 1.8million not 1.5. And we have been stuck with teams from Washington for decades. We were never Carolina fans…those people are from North Carolina..who also used to be fans of Washington…atleast half of their state.

  • @jameiremcconniughey5128
    @jameiremcconniughey5128 6 місяців тому

    NAH ROCHESTER, CANANDAIGUA, GENEVA, GREECE, AND FAIRPORT DEFINITELY NEEDS A NFL TEAM CAUSE IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE ATP SINCE NONE OF THESE CITIES HAVE A PRO SPORTS TEAM DUH LOL 💯💯.

  • @keeganbrown9967
    @keeganbrown9967 5 місяців тому

    SAN ANTONIO OUTLAWS
    Matte Black, Matte Gray, Ruby Red

  • @martyreyes5010
    @martyreyes5010 7 місяців тому +2

    San Antonio Rebels: Black and Red

  • @WMFilms25
    @WMFilms25 6 місяців тому

    San Antonio Marshals

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 4 місяці тому

    San Antonio "Defenders"

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    Mexico City Matadors

  • @SteveDMV
    @SteveDMV Місяць тому

    San Antonio Bounty Hunters

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    San Antonio Scorpions or Rattlers

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    YES! OKLAHOMA OUTLAWS! BRING THEM BACK TO TULSA!

  • @timboslice3755
    @timboslice3755 7 місяців тому

    Oklahoma City would make more sense. Larger population.

    • @NFLHardCountOfficial
      @NFLHardCountOfficial  7 місяців тому

      Yes, can't deny OKC having the larger population. But I chose Tulsa for the reasons mentioned in the video. They are less than 2 hours away from each other too, so maybe closer to the southern part of I-44, like Sapulpa would help the OKC fans.

  • @Joe-hb2ch
    @Joe-hb2ch 5 місяців тому

    San Juan? Hurricanes, and I'm not naming the team.