The real reason Columbus doesn't have a pro football team is because if they did, the next thing you know, Cleveland and Cincinnati would want a pro football team too!
When the Chargers were still in San Diego, they had a de facto monopoly on the LA market, mostly using it as a bargaining chip in their ultimately failed quest to replace Jack Murphy Stadium.
@ thanks. I guess that makes sense given the strength of USC, UCLA and the Lakers 12 championships there and 18 total. Magic Johnson, Kobe, Kareem, and others
The taxpayers are very happy that the NFL will not "Give" them a team. The taxpayers can save their billions instead of building a stadium for a billionaire owner.
@@ivanroa5988What stupid comment? And, how DOES business work? I don't know what you're trying to say. Can you explain? Btw, I love reading stupid comments from people that contain 3rd grade grammar while trying to call someone else stupid.
Why would there be? The cost to get a stadium built would be ENORMOUS. And where would they put it? Out in Queens or somewhere else on Long Island? Well maybe I guess but I don't see how that's a whole lot better than Northern New Jersey to be honest.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I’m old enough to remember when the Giants played in Yankee Stadium and the Jets played in Shea Stadium. So both were in NYC proper back in the day. But you’re absolutely correct - it would be cost prohibitive to build a modern football stadium in NYC now.
Columbus is smack dab in the middle of 4 AFC markets Cincinnati Bengals 1 hr 35 minutes away Cleveland Browns 2hrs away Indianapolis Colts 2hrs 35 minutes away Pittsburgh Steelers 2hrs 56 minutes away
@@gavinsheridan4680 Well, the NFL would not have a monopoly in Canada as it would in the US. The NFL is a monopoly... period. Trump tried to start a competitive league and the NFL stopped them from using the stadia... about the only thing I agree with him on, the NFL is a sanctioned monopoly.
@@braddrummonds7389 except his solution to this monopoly was more asshole billionare owners instead of the real solution being fan ownership of teams akin to german clubs
The Longhorns prevent Austin from having an NFL team. They control the city and dont want to give up any money spent by citizens in Austin who spend it on the longhorns to the NFL.
@@mikejacobs7464 they used to play games in Milwaukee sometimes but do they still do that? I was under the impression they stopped after they got good again and could pack Lambeau Field every game.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 The Packers stopped playing in Milwaukee after 1994, since Milwaukee County Stadium was showing its age, and Lambeau Field was renovated to the point where staying in Green Bay full time was more financially viable.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Used to doesn't count. GB is too far away to be considered local. People in Milwaukee want to cheer for the Packers ok sure. But the reality is they are Green Bay's team.
Memphis native living in Nashville now. Came exactly to comment this. Honestly, there’s probably more Cowboys and Steelers fans in Memphis than Titans fans because of this.
I lived in Memphis when that happened. No one wanted to support a team that Nashville was gonna get. We tried for almost 20 years to get a team, and to host a team going to Nashville of all places was a slap in the face. One last thing, the Saints are definitely not the most popular team there.
Technically Memphis did have an NFL team once. Louisville did have an NFL team the 1926 Louisville Colonels. And Columbus did have the Panhandels which joined the NFL in 1920 & folded in 1926.
San Antonio has tried repeatedly to get an NFL franchise. They built a dome under the “if you build it they will come” theory - didn’t work. The Saints relocated there during COVID and they tried to get them to stay - didn’t work. Red McCombs (very wealthy San Antonian) bought the Minnesota Vikings to lay the groundwork for a team in his hometown - didn’t work. I live in San Antonio and it’s weird - it’s a sports town. They support the Spurs, they host march madness tournament rounds, UTSA football and bowl games are popular. I think the league is concerned about dilution. Both the Cowboys and Texans sell a lot of merchandise here…
I too live in San Antonio. Its been a long and painful road this far getting to this point. In my opinion its our poor city planning and leadership that has cost our city an NFL team. . Not investing money decades ago into our local universities, our airport, our local businesses, and our infrastructure has caught up with us. Businesses like AT&T left SA for Dallas, young people left for better jobs and education. . However, the tide has shifted in the last decade. . UTSA and UT health are merging. Our airport is about to undergo a $2.5B renovation, multiple manufacturing and tech jobs are growing within the city. . Lastly there's discussion about PROJECT MARVEL. The construction of a new entertainment district downtown complete with a new SPURS NBA arena. . Rumor is those plans include major upgrades for the Alamodome. I pray the Alamodome does NOT get renovated. Instead SA should save money (3-5 Billion) and have the plan in place for when the next team relocation or expansion occurs. Then once a deal is made, construction begins
@@forgottenplaces9780 I don’t live in Jacksonvill, but I am from Florida. It wouldn’t make sense to add a team in San Antonio lol when another state can have one that doesn’t. Texas isn’t Florida
San Antonio will never get a team as long a Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys. He has already vetoed SA getting a team twice when owners wanted to move their teams here.
It's not the size of Memphis that is a significant factor but the poverty of the population. There aren't enough people who live in Memphis who could afford a ticket to an NFL game and that's why the NFL will never put a team in Memphis.
Gotta think that San Diego will be a prime candidate for another team given how badly the Chargers fans there got screwed. The league seems to favor making that kind of thing right by awarding new franchises.
As someone who lived there for 12 years, St. Louis doesn't care about football. They're the only city that has failed FOUR TIMES. The NFL isn't going back, and aside from a few dozen butthurts, most of the city doesn't even notice, let alone care.
St. Louis couldn't hold on to either of its previous NFL teams, plus it could've had its own expansion franchise back in 1995 (with no long-term connection to a different city), but in '93 there was infighting among potential team investors there, thus the expansion franchise was awarded to Jacksonville instead.
@@HomerSimpson51256 within their level of play they are but if Ohio State's best ever team could play the worst Cleveland or Cincy Team ever the pro teams would still kick the shit out of them. The best college teams might have at most a half a dozen players good enough to start on a pro team. A pro team has 22 such players on the roster.
San Jose already has a team. They're called the 49ers. Oakland will never have a team in ANY league ever again. Sacramento will get a team before Oakland does.
I think the issue with San Antonio or Austin getting an NFL team is less about the power of Jerry Jones and more about the popularity of the Cowboys in Texas. I think a lot of people that have the ability to get a team to those cities recognize it as a risky investment with how difficult it would be to break into that stronghold at a cultural level.
As a Scottish perspective, for what it matters. St Louis, Austin, San Diego and Oklahoma would be my 4 choices. However I’d like to see 8 teams, add in Toronto and another Canadian team (Montreal?) with two others in there.
Oklahoma City would actually make a great NFL city in my opinion. Even with the Oklahoma Sooners somewhat relegating OKC to "de-facto college town status" - the main campus is roughly 20 miles from the city proper - I believe that would only help grow the team's fanbase. The key is to hit the ground running in fielding a competitive team, much like the Thunder did when they came to town. Bonus points if they can sign a few ex-Sooners, or even ex-OK State Cowboys as their fanbase is substantial in their own right.
St Lo has issues with the city not wanting to get sucked into paying for another stadium. They've had two teams abandon them and screw them over and they don't seem eager to test those waters again. But ya know never known. Austin is a no go. The University of Texas football team has one of the largest fanbases in the state and their stadium is literally in downtown Austin (as is the rest of the campus). San Antonio is a better choice since it only has an NBA franchise and no college teams with enormous fanbases. It's also growing almost as fast as Austin and is only a couple of hours drive away. San Diego absolutely should get a team. It's far too large of a city not to have and NFL team, it's a favored location for hosting Super Bowls because of the warm weather in the winter and the former Charger fanbase was a good one that was loyal to a team that wasn't all that good for most of it's time in the city. Additionally the NFL has shown a pattern of getting teams back into markets that have been deserted by previous owners. OK.... well maybe... However that has always been primarily college football focused and would have some of the same issues that Austin does. And outside of the OK City and Tulsa the state is pretty empty. It's also not terribly far away from where the Kansas City Chiefs play.
@@geoffroi-le-HookThat’s the thing. The English Premier League has had and the English Football League has teams in Wales (Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham) and the Scottish Professional Football League has English teams play there, Gretna and long time member in Berwick. Also Monaco plays in the French league too. This does not worry my European way of thinking.
Besides Austin or San Antonio, the other likely cities for potential US based NFL franchises would be Salt Lake City, St. Louis mostly because I think the league owes them a team, and maybe Raleigh Durham If the CFL ever goes under or they finally agreed to have American NFL teams play there then Toronto would be another great candidate. People in Toronto like big-time football they don’t like the CFL
The Raleigh-Durham market is already larger than some NFL markets, but it would be a difficult sell for the NFL given that there are over 140,000 D1 college football seats in the metro among NC State, UNC, and Duke. Maybe when the Triangle reaches 3M it could happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Raleigh is too close to Charlotte and the Eastern part of North Carolina has been part of the Washington fanbase for decades. I grew up there and a ton of kids in school were diehard Washington fans.
@@karnubawax that's not the only reason but it certainly helps. Austin would be a hard sell with UT sucking up so much of the oxygen in the sports market. But a team somewhere on the North East side of San Anton would probably do well.
Population growth and disposable income are the two largest factors on where to move a team. That rules out A LOT of the nation based on these two factors alone... San Antonio seems like one of the few shining spots in the nation with these two factors that's also out of the existing teams exclusive marketing zone...
Sacramento will never get an NFL team even though it's the 20th largest TV market. It's too close to San Francisco... Not as close as San Jose, but still just 90 miles away from SF. Sac has a huge Niners and legacy Raiders fanbase anyway.
San Jose already has an NFL franchise. They are called the San Francisco 49ers. They play in Santa Clara, which is a suburb city immediately adjacent to San Jose...very close to downtown San Jose, in fact.
@@josephbright3946 No, he cited San Jose as a city that "WILL NEVER Get An NFL Team". It's in the title. He should have done a video about "Cities Falsely Claiming They Have An NFL Franchise"...San Francisco could top that list.
@@josephbright3946 Then why did he put San Jose on his list of cities that "will NEVER Get An NFL Franchise"? He said the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Did you actually watch the video?
@claycassin8437 no did you watch the video? He clearly said san jose won't get one because 49ers are in Santa clara. Very clearly. Too close together. I don't think 90% of people did actually watch or pay attention.
@@josephbright3946 I guess you missed my point. They are not the San Francisco 49ers. They are the San Jose 49ers. Santa Clara, if you want to get cute with it and literally name your location. But, San Francisco is far away. Much farther away than many other NFL cities. San Francisco no longer has a team. They are faking it. San Jose does. Did I clarify?
As someone from Louisville, I pretty much agree with your assessment. I feel like we're too much of a college town to ever be serious for a professional team. That may change someday, but I can't see it happening any time soon. Also, it's not just the Cards but the Cats too. One could argue that its more so the latter.
San Jose basically does have an NFL team haha. It’s just “tradition” to keep calling them the San Francisco 49ers but the San Jose airport is right by the stadium
Nobody plays in the Bay Area literally. Santa Clara is a purgatory with the fans suffering in the heat. Albuquerque has had a major drug problem with blue meth but anything is possible. Better Call Saul.
@@carlgemlich1657Stadium sucks in Santa Clara. Team is cool. I don’t know how Santa Clara is not in the Bay Area. I live 3 hours ahead in SC. Never mind.
Expansion? Really, doesn't the NFL already have perennial cellar-dwellers living solely off TV rights? Is there really a need for a further dilution of talent? How many more teams are required to keep balance in the divisions? 4? 8?
They usually add them 2 at a time. For years and years there were divisions that only had 4 teams while other divisions had 5 teams. The standard practice is to add one AFC and one NFC team at a time and they usually (but not always) stick them in the division that makes the most sense geographically. What's been the pattern is to add teams in pairs every 5-7 years until there are enough to form a new division and then reorganize the entire structure of divisions (and sometimes conferences too). In the 60s there was only an East and West division for the NFL and the AFL. Then they added a Central division for both conferences in the 70s. Then in the early 2000s they went to the now current system with an East West North and South division. As to why they want to add more teams obviously so they can make more money. When they hit a certain number of additional teams they will reorganize the playoffs to add more playoff games as well which makes even more money. So far as diluting talent level goes. Well there are 128 FCS teams in the country with an even greater number of FBS teams out there. With over 300 teams to potentially farm talent from I don't think they are going to lower the quality of the product too much by adding more teams any time soon.
Birmingham courted the Patriots in 1968. They knew about the Fenway Park situation and offered to build a football only stadium. Billy Sullivan held out and got Foxboro m
Both San Antonio and St. Louis are hotspots for NFL expansions. You can see the crowd turnouts during UFL games. I don't know why Jacksonville wants to move their team to London when it is a lot more profitable to move them to San Antonio or St. Louis.
@@UnchainedAmerica Florida is more profitable than Texas lol now why would the NFL do that 🤔😆 jags are building a new stadium, google it. By the same guys, who recently build LA’s ..Florida has 3 teams for a reason.
@@moneyonfleek1992 Texas population is growing at a pretty rapid rate and a lot of that growth is in San Anton and Austin (they are only a couple of hours drive from each other).
The owner of the Jags has some connection to London (think he owns a soccer team but don't quote me on that). It's probably not going to happen because the logistics would be a nightmare. The idea of the NFL expanding outside of North America is pretty much a pipedream when you stop to think about how difficult it would be deal with the logistics of a team permanently based in Europe.
Toronto and London.... But... They would have to greatly allow for them to have salary cap adjustments because they would have to pay a lot more for talent to want to come (have you seen the income tax rates in the UK?).
The NBA failed in San Diego twice with the Rockets(Houston) and Clippers(LA), and failed in St.Louis once with the Hawks (Atlanta),The Seattle SuperSonics would be back in the NBA before San Diego and St.Louis.
I think NFL expansion could work with an 18 game season, two bye weeks per team, and shuffle the teams into six 6 team divisions, preserving essential rivalries along the way.
I live in San Antonio and i hate that we get lumped in with Austin. As if its a package deal. Either one city gets a team while the other doesn't. Or we are forced to share a team. Screw that!!! Each city should get its own team. Each city has over a million people and are each growing fast. In my opinion: 4 Texas teams is perfect and would make a killer NFL division, full of rivalries and competition.
If you can easily drive to a game, that’s good enough. Some of us are nowhere close to an NFL city, so if there’s an NFL team an hour away, just take it and count yourself blessed. Don’t get greedy. I hate when areas have more than one team when others have none.
You mention both San Antonio and Austin; and that area along I-35 has grown so much, the southern Austin suburbs are merging into the northern San Antonio suburbs (much as the Philly & NYC suburbs are merging along the Jersey Turnpike around Exit 8A). The area is so massive, it could just about support teams in BOTH San Antonio AND Austin.
The 8 cities that would be in the run and considered in the running should be on the west Coast and central areas. Those teams should be san Diego, Sacramento, portland, st Louis, san Antonio/Austin, OKC, Utah, Vancouver.
@@vladimirdoyle3934 Portland team is the Seahawks 😆 ..San Antonio & Austin doesn’t need a team and would be bad investment. Texas already has 2. Spread the sauce else where. okc only has a PRO team, cus David stern moved the hornets there for a while. when hurricane Katrina happed and saw the output. Okc is a rural town. St. Louis didn’t do the things they needed to keep the rams there. Only city from the list that makes sense is Utah
@moneyonfleek1992 Portland should have a team and it if ur team doesn't play in that state then it ain't yours. And fuck Jerry Jones he has cowgirl fans all over this country in large numbers. The rams were gonna move to LA no matter what that's why there was that 4 year lawsuit that happened. OKC has a capability to hold a team and it would be a great spot to hold a SB. And if u have management interested in playoff regular u get fans, just like what happened with the rams. U don't show up to win and build to win u struggle. SD was robbed and should have a team start in SD not moved there and the fans will show up especially for games against the chargers. The West coast needs more football to survive financially. Not like the league is struggling but it forces other teams to actually support there city.
@@TheEbrietas you get the point, most Pro teams don’t use the city name in the teams branding. **Utah Jazz **Arizona Cardinals **Tennessee Titians those aren’t city’s smart guy
There’s a grand total of 0 people who think any of those cities will get an NFL team any time soon. At least talk about the ridiculous ones people actually propose, like Sacramento, St Louis, or Honolulu.
I can honestly say most people in Memphis do not care about the Titans, or any Nashville based sports team. If Memphis for whatever reason (it would never happen) got an NFL team it would have no problem drawing news fans here seeing as the two cities absolutely hate each other. Not to mention you have several major corporations based in Memphis so it would be too crazy for someone in Memphis to buy and finance an NFL team if Nashville never had a team.
I'm from Memphis love the Titan Vols and University of Memphis....there are a lot of Memphians who like all their in state teams...not sure where y'all getting this data from
@ I uhhhh live in Memphis? Sure there are people who like those teams but for the majority of the city? Nah. It’s the Tigers and like the Cowboys and Steelers.
Even if Albuquerque will never have an NFL team, I will always respect the hell out of them as a city when it comes to sports. Why??? Because they actually named their Triple-A baseball team in reference to a Simpsons episode lol
San Francisco native 🌉 here. 1:40 "...still root for the Raiders...." No! When Al moved then to LA, my Fandom went bye 👋 bye 👋. Meanwhile, the 49ers arose under the late Bill Walsh. Thus, many ex Oakland fans jumped ship 🚢. Any city in Canada 🇨🇦 is subject not to have an NFL team: the CFL exists.
@@rockyracoon3233that's where the Jets will be in the future and besides Brooklyn and Queens are geographically on the Island especially Long island City and that definitely matters
Part of the reason that the A's couldn't move South closer to San Jose was because the Giants already claimed San Jose as their market territory based on an old agreement within MLB. I don't think the same agreement would apply to NFL.
I can't believe there's folks that still believe St.Louis should or will get another NFL team. SMH. The NFL got exactly what they wanted by moving the Rams back to LA into the new corporate headquarters stadium, increasing the value of the team, meanwhile expanding the fan base of the Chiefs to the whole state of Missouri including the St. Louis metro area. The St.Louis department stores all sell Chiefs apparel and memorabilia while the folks buy and wear it all over town. The local network sports coverage always includes the Chiefs the same way they always did the Rams and the Big Red. Chief signs and logos are displayed everywhere. The city now has the Battlehawks who play at the dome where the Rams played. And the city also settled themselves with a major league soccer team. Built a new stadium for that. Nah, St. Louis has been turned into Chiefs nation, and most of the NFL fan base there have fallen for it.
Yea I was aware of that. I applied my comment after reading many here that were bringing up St. Louis. I agree with your analysis on the cities you mentioned.
@@TS-wh4ey great comment, never knew Of all u wrote. Just like I read a comment, sayin Portland needs a team. Pretty sure it’s the same Situation ..Portland residents support the Seahawks
@@moneyonfleek1992 The driving distance between Portland and Seattle is just shy of three hours. The driving distance between KC and St. Louis is almost four hours. Not that it makes a big difference, but I can't imagine the NFL awarding a franchise to Portland when they were perfectly satisfied with moving the Rams out of St. Louis, forcing the Chiefs onto the abandoned fan base, from a city four hours away on the other side of the state. IMO
@@tollboothjason If the NFL decides they want another team in Texas they are going to get another team in Texas whether Jerry likes it or not. Like the video said he is only one vote out of 32.
I doubt any city in Texas gets another team, other than the Houston area the cowboys dominate the whole state. Even el paso wouldn't support an nfl franchise its jerryland out here.
I'm typically a guy who loves to play Madden and move a team to Orlando, but I have to admit... I only think that itself is believable if it's Tampa or Jacksonville. No teams from outside the state will ever move here, I am confident of that, and I don't see Orlando getting an expansion team unless they expand to 40 teams along the way. (I think Brooklyn is more believable in-game, and that's saying something -- typically moving Washington and not JUST because I can then change the name.)
I’m a biased Okie but I believe Oklahoma City would work well. The negatives are low state income and proximity to Dallas/KC but past that Oklahoma is a football crazy state. Tulsa and OKC combined metro areas are 2.4 million and less than 1.5 hours apart. They have no problem filling up 2 major college football stadiums each Saturday. The only pro team in the state (OKC Thunder) is known to have the best home crowd fan base in the NBA.
If Oklahoma City were to get an NFL team they would need a dome capable of withstanding strong tornado force winds. It would be a good football fit, provided the metro population is stable enough.
I could see Vancouver , Toronto , Montreal , London , Salt Lake City , Oklahoma City , Portland , St Louis , San Antonio , or Hartford getting an NFL Team
I can see a team in Richmond, as that area has grown tremendously, and would draw fans from up the I-95 corridor as far north as the DC exurb of Fredericksburg, as well in the I-64 corridor between Charlottesville and Norfolk.
Red McCombs from San Antonio bought the Minnesota Vikings in 1998, and many people in the Alamo City believed that he would move the Vikings. It didn’t happen. Austin is too dominated by the University of Texas. No chance of an NFL team here anytime soon.
I have couple of cities that should be on here. - Sarasota Sarasota doesn’t have a NFL team is because of its close proximity to Tampa which is home city of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Sarasota is smaller than Tampa in terms of population. Sarasota does have a lot of fans that support the Buccaneers. Sarasota is well known for golfing despite the football culture and that local golfing culture is manly popular with the city’s older demographic and affluent populations. - Duluth-Superior aka “Twin Ports” These two cities already have fanbases on both sides of the area with Vikings having fans in Duluth and Superior which is across the bridge from Duluth does have loyalty with the Packers. Duluth used to have a NFL football team called the Duluth Eskimos which folded in 1924 and was one of short lived teams, and the Eskimos are connected to history of the Vikings due to the owners. The Vikings did tried to revive the Eskimos name for throwback uniforms for league’s 100th anniversary and this proposal was scrapped due to naming controversy at the time. As a result the Vikings abandoned the Eskimos uniforms in favor of purple people eaters uniform.
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The NFL has a serious problem. Youth football participation in the U.S. is declining because parents have legitimate safety concerns about the sport, especially in regards to brain injury. So, why is the NFL talking about expansion when the league won't have the pool in the future to maintain the talent level for the current teams in the league?
San Diego (Metro 3.3M, ranked 18th) has a larger market than Saint Louis (Metro 2.8M, ranked 23rd) and San Antonio (Metro 2.7M, ranked 24th). So just based on market, San Diego and Saint Louis should get the next 2 expansion teams. However, (eventually) I see the NFL expanding to 40 teams, with a whole 4 team division in Europe (London for sure, maybe another UK team, and 2 teams in Germany). Then they'll need 4 more teams from North America: San Diego, Saint Louis, San Antonio or Austin, and then possibly Portland or Salt Lake City. I think the NFL needs more teams in the northwest (currently only has Seattle).
St Louis isn’t going to lift a finger or offer a dime to help the nfl. Any future team in STL will have to pay for everything and that just isn’t going to happen.
@@jasonkoch3182 I think that is the way of the NFL, going to need a rich owner (or owner group) in most cases to foot the bill for a new team and stadium.
@4:50 Memphis indeed probably would never get a NFL team but it should be noted that FedEx's Fred Smith and his family (including son Arthur, former Falcons head coach and current Steelers OC) is likely on the shortlist of potential NFL team owners whenever another team does come up for sale
Memphis was on the running for awhile. I remember in the early 90's the finalists were Memphis, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Baltimore. Always felt bad they got left out. Would have really helped the city i believe.
Dude if we got a team besides Nashville it would have been so great, we more than likely would have still got an NBA team and having both the NFL and NBA here when our population was larger than Nashville would definitely helped out our city.
Any city that would cough up $3 -$5 billion for a new stadium and facilities can snare an NFL team. The sheer greed of the league and it's owners would put a team in Alaska if they could make enough money out of it. Until 10 years ago Las Vegas was a no-no, but they got a team so I'd never say never if enough money was on the table.
If the NFL ever goes international, it'd be the Jaguars moving to England. The Khans have a lot of ties to England, not to mention all the trips they already make. It's just a matter of time.
I think you just about covered it. College football is so big in the south it has stadiums few NFL fans could fill. I think things are good the way they are
On paper, yes; it has the population and growth that could attract the NFL. In practice, no, because of the juggernauts of the Utah Utes and BYU Cougars (aka the Holy War) as well as an active push for an MLB franchise in Utah.
First of all, go buckeyes I see you're a big buckeye fan and I'm from the area as well. Second, I think you are right on on all those cities. They do make sense now. There's a couple other cities I've wondered like Oklahoma City or salt lake or Portland. Wondering what your thoughts are or if those would be good for some teams. There are some other cities I can't think of
Jones was instrumental in arm-twisting the other owners to allow Stan Kroenke moving the Rams back to Los Angeles. Clark Hunt also supported it because it made his Chiefs the only team in Missouri.
Louisville is constantly bickering over pro hoops, but I have yet to hear mention among leaders for football. So add to your list of reasons that they don’t want one.
I think Sacramento, Ca would do well with over half a million in the city and 2.5 million in the area. It may never happen because the Bay Area is too close.
You forgot: Helena, Boseman, Bismarck, Pierre, Spokane, Boise, Oklahoma City, Fresno, Sacramento, Portland, Eugene, Salt Lake City, Wichita, South Bend, Gary, Columbus, Lexington, Greensboro, Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Birmingham, Tallahese, Orlando, Savannah, Richmond ...
Louisville is too small of a market that is not growing. Also, a new arena will need to be built. The downtown KFC arena is unfortunately outdated by current standards. But then again, New Orleans and Memphis have teams. Neither one is growing, even lower than Louisville.
I think you greatly underestimate how much pull and influence Jerry Jones has on the league and it's owners. He's pretty much the reason/catalyst that got Stan Kroenke and the Rams back to LA. As long as he's living there won't be teams in Austin or San Antonio.
ZERO percent chance San Antonio will ever get a team. It’s a one sport city. And that’s the spurs. Not to mention, people there are Cowboys fans. And they have a VERY small TV market. Austin would be chosen over SA. Also, you obviously have no idea how much power Jerry Jones has. Maybe he’s just one owner, but he is also the owner of the most valuable sports franchise in the world
@ still irrelevant that San Antonio can’t support an NFL team. I lived there for a long time. It was always talked about, never came close to happening.
@ 24/32 owners have to ok it. That being said, it’s been talked about going to San Antonio with a team. Never came close. When I lived there it was an every year thing. Austin, yes. San Antonio, no
Birmingham has always been considered for an NFL team, but they now have a professional team in the Birmingham Stallions which has won 3 straight USFL Championships.
It's not true that Louisville wouldn't support an NFL team. The NFL is very popular here. The majority are not fans of the Bengals, or the Colts, like so many out of towners seem to think. Those that are would drop them in a heartbeat if we had our own team.
Milwaukee may never get their own NFL franchise, Even though the "Packers" had a successful run winning over 60% of their games in the city of Milwaukee.
Uhhhh....I believe South Texas has a football team. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the Houston Texans play in southern Texas. But I could be wrong, although right now, they are the bane of the Colts existence.....
The real reason Columbus doesn't have a pro football team is because if they did, the next thing you know, Cleveland and Cincinnati would want a pro football team too!
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I think their players salaries are pretty comparable between the three teams.
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San Jose has an NFL team! The 49ers are about 8 miles away. They might as well be called the Bay Area 49ers.
San Francisco ever having an NFL team again is actually a more interesting question than San Jose.
@@boogitybear2283 I say San Jose 49ers
The Bay Area is one media market so they are the Bay Area’s team.
This is true. I wish they had built a stadium in SF
🤷 Your point who cares we have other sports growing Columbus metro area 14th largest city. I get tired of population loss not here🤷
Los Angeles went years without an NFL team and most folks didn't give a rip.
@@jim2376 🤣 facts
When the Chargers were still in San Diego, they had a de facto monopoly on the LA market, mostly using it as a bargaining chip in their ultimately failed quest to replace Jack Murphy Stadium.
@@jim2376 they’ve got 2, through fairly nefarious means and they give even less
Than a darn
That's because LA is mostly a college football city, plus baseball and basketball.
@ thanks. I guess that makes sense given the strength of USC, UCLA and the Lakers 12 championships there and 18 total. Magic Johnson, Kobe, Kareem, and others
The taxpayers are very happy that the NFL will not "Give" them a team. The taxpayers can save their billions instead of building a stadium for a billionaire owner.
I love reading this stupid comments of people who doesn't understand how businesses work 😂
@@ivanroa5988What stupid comment? And, how DOES business work? I don't know what you're trying to say. Can you explain? Btw, I love reading stupid comments from people that contain 3rd grade grammar while trying to call someone else stupid.
Cute! Tell me more about economics
Prediction: There will never be an NFL team in New York City proper.
Why would there be? The cost to get a stadium built would be ENORMOUS. And where would they put it? Out in Queens or somewhere else on Long Island? Well maybe I guess but I don't see how that's a whole lot better than Northern New Jersey to be honest.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I’m old enough to remember when the Giants played in Yankee Stadium and the Jets played in Shea Stadium. So both were in NYC proper back in the day. But you’re absolutely correct - it would be cost prohibitive to build a modern football stadium in NYC now.
@@OldRustySteeleI am old enough to remember 1975 when the Jets and the Giants both played in Shea along with the Mets and Yankees.
@@alphax4785 what’s a NY city proper? ..I’ma just google it lol nvm
NYCFC's new stadium, which will seat 25,000, is going to cost almost $800 million.
Columbus is smack dab in the middle of 4 AFC markets
Cincinnati Bengals 1 hr 35 minutes away
Cleveland Browns 2hrs away
Indianapolis Colts 2hrs 35 minutes away
Pittsburgh Steelers 2hrs 56 minutes away
@@wilderac2250 they have something much better in Ohio State
Also not that far away from the Detroit Lions.
Idk how Pittsburgh has a team that place is rural and slow pace of life 🥱
@@moneyonfleek1992 Pittsburgh was a booming metropolis of steel manufacturing in its heyday. The Steelers are an old traditional franchise
I should retire j. Columbus. So much football tk be seen. In a few years I'd see all 32 NFL teams live.
Let's be real, if the CFL didn't exist. There would be a team in Toronto
If the NFL wanted to enter a market, a lesser sports league’s presence wouldn’t deter them. Its more about Buffalo’s proximity.
@@gavinsheridan4680 yeah no, the buffalo sabres and the toronto maple leafs coexist, just fine. An nfl team would absolutely work in toronto.
@@gavinsheridan4680 Well, the NFL would not have a monopoly in Canada as it would in the US. The NFL is a monopoly... period. Trump tried to start a competitive league and the NFL stopped them from using the stadia... about the only thing I agree with him on, the NFL is a sanctioned monopoly.
@@braddrummonds7389 except his solution to this monopoly was more asshole billionare owners instead of the real solution being fan ownership of teams akin to german clubs
If the NFL wanted a team in Toronto, the CFL would not exist the next day
The Longhorns prevent Austin from having an NFL team. They control the city and dont want to give up any money spent by citizens in Austin who spend it on the longhorns to the NFL.
I dont think they have a say lol, plus theres plenty of people moving there that arent longhorn fans anyway
Plus, not a large media market
@forgottenplaces9780 dude then your a fool. Yes we all know they don't have a veto but to basically try and ignore UT is a fools errand.
Jerry Jones and the McNairs will definitely block it too
I pretty much agree on all of them. Sadly my hometown of Milwaukee would also be on that list given the Packers and Bears are just too close.
Truthfully the Green Bay Packers are Milwaukee’s NFL team with 3 games being Milwaukee season ticket games.
@@mikejacobs7464 they used to play games in Milwaukee sometimes but do they still do that? I was under the impression they stopped after they got good again and could pack Lambeau Field every game.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 The Packers stopped playing in Milwaukee after 1994, since Milwaukee County Stadium was showing its age, and Lambeau Field was renovated to the point where staying in Green Bay full time was more financially viable.
@@henryca03 thanks for the clarification. I knew I hadn't heard about them playing in Milwaukee for decades but I never did hear why.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Used to doesn't count. GB is too far away to be considered local. People in Milwaukee want to cheer for the Packers ok sure. But the reality is they are Green Bay's team.
I bet the Oilers knowing they were ultimately headed to Nashville is why they didn’t draw in Memphis.
Exactly. The saying in Memphis was: Our dream, their team.
Why didn't they just stay in Houston a couple more seasons? The turnout in Memphis was even worse.
@@dvferyance Bud Adams burnt bridges on his way out of Houston.
Memphis native living in Nashville now. Came exactly to comment this. Honestly, there’s probably more Cowboys and Steelers fans in Memphis than Titans fans because of this.
I lived in Memphis when that happened. No one wanted to support a team that Nashville was gonna get. We tried for almost 20 years to get a team, and to host a team going to Nashville of all places was a slap in the face. One last thing, the Saints are definitely not the most popular team there.
Technically Memphis did have an NFL team once. Louisville did have an NFL team the 1926 Louisville Colonels. And Columbus did have the Panhandels which joined the NFL in 1920 & folded in 1926.
These cities are fortunate to not have teams, stay that way!
Guess you don't like money. Interesting. Tell me about the cardboard box you live in.
San Antonio has tried repeatedly to get an NFL franchise. They built a dome under the “if you build it they will come” theory - didn’t work. The Saints relocated there during COVID and they tried to get them to stay - didn’t work. Red McCombs (very wealthy San Antonian) bought the Minnesota Vikings to lay the groundwork for a team in his hometown - didn’t work. I live in San Antonio and it’s weird - it’s a sports town. They support the Spurs, they host march madness tournament rounds, UTSA football and bowl games are popular. I think the league is concerned about dilution. Both the Cowboys and Texans sell a lot of merchandise here…
I too live in San Antonio. Its been a long and painful road this far getting to this point. In my opinion its our poor city planning and leadership that has cost our city an NFL team.
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Not investing money decades ago into our local universities, our airport, our local businesses, and our infrastructure has caught up with us. Businesses like AT&T left SA for Dallas, young people left for better jobs and education.
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However, the tide has shifted in the last decade.
. UTSA and UT health are merging. Our airport is about to undergo a $2.5B renovation, multiple manufacturing and tech jobs are growing within the city.
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Lastly there's discussion about PROJECT MARVEL. The construction of a new entertainment district downtown complete with a new SPURS NBA arena.
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Rumor is those plans include major upgrades for the Alamodome. I pray the Alamodome does NOT get renovated. Instead SA should save money (3-5 Billion) and have the plan in place for when the next team relocation or expansion occurs. Then once a deal is made, construction begins
Theres so many more people in san antonio and austin than places like jacksonville and buffalo, its hard to believe it couldnt work
@@forgottenplaces9780 I don’t live in Jacksonvill, but I am from Florida. It wouldn’t make sense to add a team in San Antonio lol when another state can have one that doesn’t. Texas isn’t Florida
San Antonio will never get a team as long a Jerry Jones owns the Cowboys. He has already vetoed SA getting a team twice when owners wanted to move their teams here.
Saints played a few of their games in San Antonio after Katrina. They did not leave New Orleans during Covid.
San Diego and St Louis should get expansion teams
San Diego should get their football team back.
Chargers should return to San Diego since they have a new owner now
St Louis yes San Diego no unless the Chargers move back.
@@dvferyance Chargers got a new owner now so their is a chance to do so
@@dreamcage1801the Spanos family still own 69% of the Chargers
San Jose and Santa Clara are a mile apart
Yep, they are.
San Jose and Santa Clara directly abut each other. The Valley Fair mall straddles the border.
I feel like a few of these cities might get a team if the NFL had a minor league
One could argue that, due to NIL, NCAA football is “minor league football.”
@@VoidDWG if it were to ever start one the Browns would be moved down to that league.
USFL is essentially minor league to nfl. Merged with xfl not too long ago. And cities like Birmingham al and st Louis have teams
Know what I think? The NFL doesn’t need expansion. 32 teams is a balanced, square amount that enables direct division rivalries.
Yes, there already are too many bad qbs playing as it is lol
I think it should expand…but include a relegation system like Euro soccer to keep teams from tanking.
It's not the size of Memphis that is a significant factor but the poverty of the population. There aren't enough people who live in Memphis who could afford a ticket to an NFL game and that's why the NFL will never put a team in Memphis.
new orleans is poorer then memphis and smaller it has a team..why?
@@michealhughes9413Legacy team.
Hogwash. If the team is good, fans will come. The Grizzlies sell out FedEx Forum during playoff games.
Two cities I'd LIKE To get a good team are two cities that got screwed ... St Louis and San Diego
Gotta think that San Diego will be a prime candidate for another team given how badly the Chargers fans there got screwed. The league seems to favor making that kind of thing right by awarding new franchises.
@@Xmetalfanx Orlando fl
As someone who lived there for 12 years, St. Louis doesn't care about football. They're the only city that has failed FOUR TIMES. The NFL isn't going back, and aside from a few dozen butthurts, most of the city doesn't even notice, let alone care.
St. Louis couldn't hold on to either of its previous NFL teams, plus it could've had its own expansion franchise back in 1995 (with no long-term connection to a different city), but in '93 there was infighting among potential team investors there, thus the expansion franchise was awarded to Jacksonville instead.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916The city of San Diego will likely never approve funding for a new stadium.
Columbus has a professional team, it's called Ohio State
*college team not professional
@@HomerSimpson51256 within their level of play they are but if Ohio State's best ever team could play the worst Cleveland or Cincy Team ever the pro teams would still kick the shit out of them. The best college teams might have at most a half a dozen players good enough to start on a pro team. A pro team has 22 such players on the roster.
I've heard of them.....they were destroyed by my ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE boys and ALWAYS over rated.
@ didn’t you guys lose to Vanderbilt
@dominicbahantka7826 yes and still winning....more national championships than anyone Including the SUCKeyes
San Jose already has a team. They're called the 49ers. Oakland will never have a team in ANY league ever again. Sacramento will get a team before Oakland does.
I think the issue with San Antonio or Austin getting an NFL team is less about the power of Jerry Jones and more about the popularity of the Cowboys in Texas. I think a lot of people that have the ability to get a team to those cities recognize it as a risky investment with how difficult it would be to break into that stronghold at a cultural level.
As a Scottish perspective, for what it matters.
St Louis, Austin, San Diego and Oklahoma would be my 4 choices. However I’d like to see 8 teams, add in Toronto and another Canadian team (Montreal?) with two others in there.
Oklahoma City would actually make a great NFL city in my opinion. Even with the Oklahoma Sooners somewhat relegating OKC to "de-facto college town status" - the main campus is roughly 20 miles from the city proper - I believe that would only help grow the team's fanbase. The key is to hit the ground running in fielding a competitive team, much like the Thunder did when they came to town. Bonus points if they can sign a few ex-Sooners, or even ex-OK State Cowboys as their fanbase is substantial in their own right.
St Lo has issues with the city not wanting to get sucked into paying for another stadium. They've had two teams abandon them and screw them over and they don't seem eager to test those waters again. But ya know never known.
Austin is a no go. The University of Texas football team has one of the largest fanbases in the state and their stadium is literally in downtown Austin (as is the rest of the campus). San Antonio is a better choice since it only has an NBA franchise and no college teams with enormous fanbases. It's also growing almost as fast as Austin and is only a couple of hours drive away.
San Diego absolutely should get a team. It's far too large of a city not to have and NFL team, it's a favored location for hosting Super Bowls because of the warm weather in the winter and the former Charger fanbase was a good one that was loyal to a team that wasn't all that good for most of it's time in the city. Additionally the NFL has shown a pattern of getting teams back into markets that have been deserted by previous owners.
OK.... well maybe... However that has always been primarily college football focused and would have some of the same issues that Austin does. And outside of the OK City and Tulsa the state is pretty empty. It's also not terribly far away from where the Kansas City Chiefs play.
The CFL would never allow a full-time Canadian NFL team. It would be like having an English Premier League team in Edinburgh or Aberdeen.
They want to put a team in London but I don't think that would work because of distance and time zones.
@@geoffroi-le-HookThat’s the thing. The English Premier League has had and the English Football League has teams in Wales (Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham) and the Scottish Professional Football League has English teams play there, Gretna and long time member in Berwick.
Also Monaco plays in the French league too.
This does not worry my European way of thinking.
Besides Austin or San Antonio, the other likely cities for potential US based NFL franchises would be Salt Lake City, St. Louis mostly because I think the league owes them a team, and maybe Raleigh Durham
If the CFL ever goes under or they finally agreed to have American NFL teams play there then Toronto would be another great candidate. People in Toronto like big-time football they don’t like the CFL
The Raleigh-Durham market is already larger than some NFL markets, but it would be a difficult sell for the NFL given that there are over 140,000 D1 college football seats in the metro among NC State, UNC, and Duke. Maybe when the Triangle reaches 3M it could happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
@@johnlabus7359 The only reason San Antonia is a good pick is because it doesn't have a huge college base.
Raleigh is too close to Charlotte and the Eastern part of North Carolina has been part of the Washington fanbase for decades. I grew up there and a ton of kids in school were diehard Washington fans.
@@karnubawax that's not the only reason but it certainly helps. Austin would be a hard sell with UT sucking up so much of the oxygen in the sports market. But a team somewhere on the North East side of San Anton would probably do well.
I did forget about San Diego. They probably will get a team to in the near future. Portland, Oregon is another candidate.
No team will ever move now that the threat of moving to Los Angeles is gone.
San Antonio has just become the new Los Angeles. And when they get a team, another city will take their place.
Population growth and disposable income are the two largest factors on where to move a team. That rules out A LOT of the nation based on these two factors alone... San Antonio seems like one of the few shining spots in the nation with these two factors that's also out of the existing teams exclusive marketing zone...
Sacramento will never get an NFL team even though it's the 20th largest TV market. It's too close to San Francisco... Not as close as San Jose, but still just 90 miles away from SF. Sac has a huge Niners and legacy Raiders fanbase anyway.
San Jose already has an NFL franchise. They are called the San Francisco 49ers. They play in Santa Clara, which is a suburb city immediately adjacent to San Jose...very close to downtown San Jose, in fact.
He said that
@@josephbright3946 No, he cited San Jose as a city that "WILL NEVER Get An NFL Team". It's in the title. He should have done a video about "Cities Falsely Claiming They Have An NFL Franchise"...San Francisco could top that list.
@@josephbright3946 Then why did he put San Jose on his list of cities that "will NEVER Get An NFL Franchise"? He said the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Did you actually watch the video?
@claycassin8437 no did you watch the video? He clearly said san jose won't get one because 49ers are in Santa clara. Very clearly. Too close together. I don't think 90% of people did actually watch or pay attention.
@@josephbright3946 I guess you missed my point. They are not the San Francisco 49ers. They are the San Jose 49ers. Santa Clara, if you want to get cute with it and literally name your location. But, San Francisco is far away. Much farther away than many other NFL cities. San Francisco no longer has a team. They are faking it. San Jose does. Did I clarify?
As someone from Louisville, I pretty much agree with your assessment. I feel like we're too much of a college town to ever be serious for a professional team. That may change someday, but I can't see it happening any time soon.
Also, it's not just the Cards but the Cats too. One could argue that its more so the latter.
I think Louisville would get a basketball team if anything. Mainly because Cincinnati doesn't have a team but I'm not so sure.
2:40 - Hey they've got the Isotopes already so all good.
GO 'TOPES!!
San Jose basically does have an NFL team haha. It’s just “tradition” to keep calling them the San Francisco 49ers but the San Jose airport is right by the stadium
It's more like down the street and across the freeway. But Great America is across the street!
Cleveland will never get an NFL franchise!!!
Cue rim shot.
You’re an idiot
Nobody plays in the Bay Area literally. Santa Clara is a purgatory with the fans suffering in the heat. Albuquerque has had a major drug problem with blue meth but anything is possible. Better Call Saul.
How is Santa Clara not in the bay.
@@carlgemlich1657Stadium sucks in Santa Clara. Team is cool. I don’t know how Santa Clara is not in the Bay Area. I live 3 hours ahead in SC. Never mind.
Expansion? Really, doesn't the NFL already have perennial cellar-dwellers living solely off TV rights? Is there really a need for a further dilution of talent? How many more teams are required to keep balance in the divisions? 4? 8?
They usually add them 2 at a time. For years and years there were divisions that only had 4 teams while other divisions had 5 teams. The standard practice is to add one AFC and one NFC team at a time and they usually (but not always) stick them in the division that makes the most sense geographically. What's been the pattern is to add teams in pairs every 5-7 years until there are enough to form a new division and then reorganize the entire structure of divisions (and sometimes conferences too). In the 60s there was only an East and West division for the NFL and the AFL. Then they added a Central division for both conferences in the 70s. Then in the early 2000s they went to the now current system with an East West North and South division. As to why they want to add more teams obviously so they can make more money. When they hit a certain number of additional teams they will reorganize the playoffs to add more playoff games as well which makes even more money. So far as diluting talent level goes. Well there are 128 FCS teams in the country with an even greater number of FBS teams out there. With over 300 teams to potentially farm talent from I don't think they are going to lower the quality of the product too much by adding more teams any time soon.
I agree about the talent situation. Especially at certain positions. Plus each team plays six games in their own division.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Birmingham AL. lol.
Birmingham courted the Patriots in 1968. They knew about the Fenway Park situation and offered to build a football only stadium. Billy Sullivan held out and got Foxboro m
No NFL team is going to play in very old Legion Field
@@davidlafleche1142They played one game against the Jets in 1968 in Birmingham and that was it
Bham probably doesn't have enough on the city to meet the profile. Idk. Would have to build a new stadium for sure
@@GR-bn3xj Well it has a metro over 1 million. Or at least that's what I have been told. That's why I thought it would make this list. lol.
You don't know Jerry's power when it comes to politicians in Texas or the amount of pull he has within the NFL power structure
Both San Antonio and St. Louis are hotspots for NFL expansions. You can see the crowd turnouts during UFL games. I don't know why Jacksonville wants to move their team to London when it is a lot more profitable to move them to San Antonio or St. Louis.
@@UnchainedAmerica Florida is more profitable than Texas lol now why would the NFL do that 🤔😆 jags are building a new stadium, google it. By the same guys, who recently build LA’s ..Florida has 3 teams for a reason.
What sense does it makes, too add another team in Texas ? Isn’t Houston the most recent Expansion team? Same year Andre Johnson was drafted
@@moneyonfleek1992 Texas population is growing at a pretty rapid rate and a lot of that growth is in San Anton and Austin (they are only a couple of hours drive from each other).
The owner of the Jags has some connection to London (think he owns a soccer team but don't quote me on that). It's probably not going to happen because the logistics would be a nightmare. The idea of the NFL expanding outside of North America is pretty much a pipedream when you stop to think about how difficult it would be deal with the logistics of a team permanently based in Europe.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 true, I agree with everything u said
Toronto and London.... But... They would have to greatly allow for them to have salary cap adjustments because they would have to pay a lot more for talent to want to come (have you seen the income tax rates in the UK?).
San Diego and St. Louis need an NBA team again
@ I say both NHL and NBA. After that SD will do everything in their power to get the chargers back to their home.
StL left in 1968 SD left in 1971 and 1984 if they haven't got an NBA team by now they never will
@ different climate and never too late to change the narrative
The NBA failed in San Diego twice with the Rockets(Houston) and Clippers(LA), and failed in St.Louis once with the Hawks (Atlanta),The Seattle SuperSonics would be back in the NBA before San Diego and St.Louis.
Ar least this year San Diego got the clippers back in the form of a gkeauge team.
7:49-8:15 Do you wanna bet? Jerry Jones has more power than you think. Plus he has more connections and influence on other NFL Owners.
Is Portland Oregon viable?
The Seahawks have a large fan base there so I am skeptical.
No NFL ready stadium that seats 65, 000 or more
Oregon SHOULD NOT GET A TEAM WHATSOEVER. It is ALREADY BAD ENOUGH Portland, Oregon has a team for the NBA & MLS.
I think NFL expansion could work with an 18 game season, two bye weeks per team, and shuffle the teams into six 6 team divisions, preserving essential rivalries along the way.
I hope not, that would be too much, there just isnt enough talent for 36 teams
I live in San Antonio and i hate that we get lumped in with Austin. As if its a package deal. Either one city gets a team while the other doesn't.
Or we are forced to share a team.
Screw that!!! Each city should get its own team. Each city has over a million people and are each growing fast.
In my opinion: 4 Texas teams is perfect and would make a killer NFL division, full of rivalries and competition.
@@keeganbrown9967 Texas isn’t Florida 😆
If you can easily drive to a game, that’s good enough. Some of us are nowhere close to an NFL city, so if there’s an NFL team an hour away, just take it and count yourself blessed. Don’t get greedy. I hate when areas have more than one team when others have none.
You mention both San Antonio and Austin; and that area along I-35 has grown so much, the southern Austin suburbs are merging into the northern San Antonio suburbs (much as the Philly & NYC suburbs are merging along the Jersey Turnpike around Exit 8A). The area is so massive, it could just about support teams in BOTH San Antonio AND Austin.
The real question is why does St L not have either an NBA or NFL team
STL isn't big enough for the big 4 franchises.
@@chrisjudd6 They already have 2.
And it's the 23rd largest metro in the country, and they don't have any market near by.
@@chrisjudd6They used to have an NFL team, twice.
@stevensuarez4843 I'm 43. I'm well aware of that. My point is NFL failed twice in less than 40 years in STL
@@chrisjudd6 how does Minneapolis do it then
If the NFL were to choose a city to play, it would be San Antonio!
The 8 cities that would be in the run and considered in the running should be on the west Coast and central areas. Those teams should be san Diego, Sacramento, portland, st Louis, san Antonio/Austin, OKC, Utah, Vancouver.
@@vladimirdoyle3934 Portland team is the Seahawks 😆 ..San Antonio & Austin doesn’t need a team and would be bad investment. Texas already has 2. Spread the sauce else where. okc only has a PRO team, cus David stern moved the hornets there for a while. when hurricane Katrina happed and saw the output. Okc is a rural town. St. Louis didn’t do the things they needed to keep the rams there. Only city from the list that makes sense is Utah
@moneyonfleek1992 Portland should have a team and it if ur team doesn't play in that state then it ain't yours. And fuck Jerry Jones he has cowgirl fans all over this country in large numbers. The rams were gonna move to LA no matter what that's why there was that 4 year lawsuit that happened. OKC has a capability to hold a team and it would be a great spot to hold a SB. And if u have management interested in playoff regular u get fans, just like what happened with the rams. U don't show up to win and build to win u struggle. SD was robbed and should have a team start in SD not moved there and the fans will show up especially for games against the chargers. The West coast needs more football to survive financially. Not like the league is struggling but it forces other teams to actually support there city.
@@moneyonfleek1992first of all, Utah isn’t a city lmao
@@TheEbrietas you get the point, most Pro teams don’t use the city name in the teams branding. **Utah Jazz **Arizona Cardinals **Tennessee Titians those aren’t city’s smart guy
@@TheEbrietas and this year! the NHL just added a NEW expansion team ..literally called “UTAH”
There’s a grand total of 0 people who think any of those cities will get an NFL team any time soon. At least talk about the ridiculous ones people actually propose, like Sacramento, St Louis, or Honolulu.
What about Salt Lake city?
Big town and nearest teams are 400mi (vegas) and 500mi (denver)
I could see that one happening…
It's the only option that makes sense.
Playing sports there on a Sunday???? Ain't gonna happen
I can honestly say most people in Memphis do not care about the Titans, or any Nashville based sports team.
If Memphis for whatever reason (it would never happen) got an NFL team it would have no problem drawing news fans here seeing as the two cities absolutely hate each other.
Not to mention you have several major corporations based in Memphis so it would be too crazy for someone in Memphis to buy and finance an NFL team if Nashville never had a team.
Many in Nashville don't care about the Titans. The Tennessee Vols rule the state! The Titans are like the minor leagues.
@ most people in Memphis also don’t care about the Vols.
I'm from Memphis love the Titan
Vols and University of Memphis....there are a lot of Memphians who like all their in state teams...not sure where y'all getting this data from
@ I uhhhh live in Memphis? Sure there are people who like those teams but for the majority of the city? Nah. It’s the Tigers and like the Cowboys and Steelers.
@LoneCourier2281 yeah old heads like the cupcakes and Steelers...but there are some who do like the Titans
Even if Albuquerque will never have an NFL team, I will always respect the hell out of them as a city when it comes to sports. Why???
Because they actually named their Triple-A baseball team in reference to a Simpsons episode lol
@@Mr.E723 what is the name of it
@@GR-bn3xj Isotopes
@@GR-bn3xj Albuquerque Isotopes. Nice AAA park. I think they even have a statue of Homer out in center field.
Well that and New Mexico is one of the nations leaders in nuclear science.
In that episode, the mayor of Albuquerque wanted the Dallas Cowboys to relocate there.
San Francisco native 🌉 here.
1:40 "...still root for the Raiders...." No! When Al moved then to LA, my Fandom went bye 👋 bye 👋. Meanwhile, the 49ers arose under the late Bill Walsh. Thus, many ex Oakland fans jumped ship 🚢.
Any city in Canada 🇨🇦 is subject not to have an NFL team: the CFL exists.
Gonna go with a technicality and say they’ll never put an NFL stadium in NYC proper ever again, there is just no space for it.
Long Island?
@@rockyracoon3233 NIMBY land? No chance either.
@@rockyracoon3233that's where the Jets will be in the future and besides Brooklyn and Queens are geographically on the Island especially Long island City and that definitely matters
Part of the reason that the A's couldn't move South closer to San Jose was because the Giants already claimed San Jose as their market territory based on an old agreement within MLB. I don't think the same agreement would apply to NFL.
I can't believe there's folks that still believe St.Louis should or will get another NFL team. SMH.
The NFL got exactly what they wanted by moving the Rams back to LA into the new corporate headquarters stadium, increasing the value of the team, meanwhile expanding the fan base of the Chiefs to the whole state of Missouri including the St. Louis metro area. The St.Louis department stores all sell Chiefs apparel and memorabilia while the folks buy and wear it all over town. The local network sports coverage always includes the Chiefs the same way they always did the Rams and the Big Red. Chief signs and logos are displayed everywhere.
The city now has the Battlehawks who play at the dome where the Rams played. And the city also settled themselves with a major league soccer team. Built a new stadium for that.
Nah, St. Louis has been turned into Chiefs nation, and most of the NFL fan base there have fallen for it.
I was thinking of putting st louis on here but I wanted to focus on cities that have never had a team
Yea I was aware of that. I applied my comment after reading many here that were bringing up St. Louis. I agree with your analysis on the cities you mentioned.
@@TS-wh4ey great comment, never knew
Of all u wrote. Just like I read a comment, sayin Portland needs a team. Pretty sure it’s the same
Situation ..Portland residents support the Seahawks
@@moneyonfleek1992
The driving distance between Portland and Seattle is just shy of three hours. The driving distance between KC and St. Louis is almost four hours. Not that it makes a big difference, but I can't imagine the NFL awarding a franchise to Portland when they were perfectly satisfied with moving the Rams out of St. Louis, forcing the Chiefs onto the abandoned fan base, from a city four hours away on the other side of the state. IMO
Liar! The stupid chiefs are hated in St Louis because they voted for the cards and rams to leave
Elon Musk should put a team in Austin. Call them the Texas X’s
Jerry Jones won't let Austin or San Antonio get a team.
@@tollboothjasonI’m not even from Texas and he pisses me off for that.
@@tollboothjason If the NFL decides they want another team in Texas they are going to get another team in Texas whether Jerry likes it or not. Like the video said he is only one vote out of 32.
Or Exes, like the song.
I doubt any city in Texas gets another team, other than the Houston area the cowboys dominate the whole state. Even el paso wouldn't support an nfl franchise its jerryland out here.
I'm typically a guy who loves to play Madden and move a team to Orlando, but I have to admit... I only think that itself is believable if it's Tampa or Jacksonville. No teams from outside the state will ever move here, I am confident of that, and I don't see Orlando getting an expansion team unless they expand to 40 teams along the way. (I think Brooklyn is more believable in-game, and that's saying something -- typically moving Washington and not JUST because I can then change the name.)
St. Louis will never get one again.
They don't deserve one. Aside from a few dozen butthurts, most of the city didn't even notice when the rams left.
@deansch6089 why would they want another NFL team after the Rams screwed over the St Louis taxpayers?
@@deansch6089wrong
I’m a biased Okie but I believe Oklahoma City would work well. The negatives are low state income and proximity to Dallas/KC but past that Oklahoma is a football crazy state. Tulsa and OKC combined metro areas are 2.4 million and less than 1.5 hours apart. They have no problem filling up 2 major college football stadiums each Saturday. The only pro team in the state (OKC Thunder) is known to have the best home crowd fan base in the NBA.
If Oklahoma City were to get an NFL team they would need a dome capable of withstanding strong tornado force winds. It would be a good football fit, provided the metro population is stable enough.
I could see Vancouver , Toronto , Montreal , London , Salt Lake City , Oklahoma City , Portland , St Louis , San Antonio , or Hartford getting an NFL Team
I can see a team in Richmond, as that area has grown tremendously, and would draw fans from up the I-95 corridor as far north as the DC exurb of Fredericksburg, as well in the I-64 corridor between Charlottesville and Norfolk.
Red McCombs from San Antonio bought the Minnesota Vikings in 1998, and many people in the Alamo City believed that he would move the Vikings. It didn’t happen.
Austin is too dominated by the University of Texas. No chance of an NFL team here anytime soon.
I have couple of cities that should be on here.
- Sarasota
Sarasota doesn’t have a NFL team is because of its close proximity to Tampa which is home city of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Sarasota is smaller than Tampa in terms of population. Sarasota does have a lot of fans that support the Buccaneers. Sarasota is well known for golfing despite the football culture and that local golfing culture is manly popular with the city’s older demographic and affluent populations.
- Duluth-Superior aka “Twin Ports”
These two cities already have fanbases on both sides of the area with Vikings having fans in Duluth and Superior which is across the bridge from Duluth does have loyalty with the Packers. Duluth used to have a NFL football team called the Duluth Eskimos which folded in 1924 and was one of short lived teams, and the Eskimos are connected to history of the Vikings due to the owners. The Vikings did tried to revive the Eskimos name for throwback uniforms for league’s 100th anniversary and this proposal was scrapped due to naming controversy at the time. As a result the Vikings abandoned the Eskimos uniforms in favor of purple people eaters uniform.
When is the State of New Jersey getting their own NFL football 🏈 team??? ☹️
Just remember this, folks. ☝️ There is only ONE NFL football 🏈 team in the State of New York. The Buffalo Bills 🦬 (Village of Orchard Park, Erie County, New York). 😃👍
YEAH RIGHT! I'll take the Jets or giants over Your heard of buffaloes any day.
The NFL has a serious problem. Youth football participation in the U.S. is declining because parents have legitimate safety concerns about the sport, especially in regards to brain injury. So, why is the NFL talking about expansion when the league won't have the pool in the future to maintain the talent level for the current teams in the league?
San Jose HAS a team, San Fransisco does not have a team. the way you present this is just nonsense.
Will New York City, Los Angeles, Dallas, or Washington DC get a team on their soil.
Cleveland will never get an NFL team
Browns?
@@timpowell1429 LOL Sarcasm is completely wasted on some people.
@@JohnOdermott lol
Neither will Baltimore
@@leesalawitch1386 huh?
Richmond or the Norfolk area. Of course, you would have to pay off the Washington Football Team for lost market share.
St. Louis & San Antonio will get the next 2 expansion teams those are the last big football markets that don't have an NFL. team in my opinion .
San Antonio isn't getting a team
They should but as of now I see no big plans by the NFL to expand. Mayve when Godell is gone.
San Diego (Metro 3.3M, ranked 18th) has a larger market than Saint Louis (Metro 2.8M, ranked 23rd) and San Antonio (Metro 2.7M, ranked 24th). So just based on market, San Diego and Saint Louis should get the next 2 expansion teams. However, (eventually) I see the NFL expanding to 40 teams, with a whole 4 team division in Europe (London for sure, maybe another UK team, and 2 teams in Germany). Then they'll need 4 more teams from North America: San Diego, Saint Louis, San Antonio or Austin, and then possibly Portland or Salt Lake City. I think the NFL needs more teams in the northwest (currently only has Seattle).
St Louis isn’t going to lift a finger or offer a dime to help the nfl. Any future team in STL will have to pay for everything and that just isn’t going to happen.
@@jasonkoch3182 I think that is the way of the NFL, going to need a rich owner (or owner group) in most cases to foot the bill for a new team and stadium.
@4:50 Memphis indeed probably would never get a NFL team but it should be noted that FedEx's Fred Smith and his family (including son Arthur, former Falcons head coach and current Steelers OC) is likely on the shortlist of potential NFL team owners whenever another team does come up for sale
Memphis was on the running for awhile. I remember in the early 90's the finalists were Memphis, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Baltimore. Always felt bad they got left out. Would have really helped the city i believe.
Dude if we got a team besides Nashville it would have been so great, we more than likely would have still got an NBA team and having both the NFL and NBA here when our population was larger than Nashville would definitely helped out our city.
Something bigger coming to Memphis.....watch what I tell ya.
@TommyTomTompkins What would be bigger?
Any city that would cough up $3 -$5 billion for a new stadium and facilities can snare an NFL team. The sheer greed of the league and it's owners would put a team in Alaska if they could make enough money out of it. Until 10 years ago Las Vegas was a no-no, but they got a team so I'd never say never if enough money was on the table.
If the NFL ever goes international, it'd be the Jaguars moving to England. The Khans have a lot of ties to England, not to mention all the trips they already make. It's just a matter of time.
Forget about that, Jax just had a total stadium renovation approved
A look, a dumbass comment about the Jags moving to England. Haven’t heard that constantly for the last 15 years
There won't ever be a NFL team in Europe they just need to bring back the NFL Europe and call it a day
It won't happen but if it does, the NFL is fucked. It's a horrible idea.
I think you just about covered it. College football is so big in the south it has stadiums few NFL fans could fill. I think things are good the way they are
Let’s add 4! They could play each other twice and then be the 17th game for the other teams! Portland, San Antonio, St. Louis, and San Diego!
I heard Birmingham Alabama thrown around a bit when I lived there awhile back.
Since the 49ers basically play in San Jose, it should've been replaced with Portland, OR.
Portland does NOT Deserve to have ANY PRO TEAM. Neither does ANYWHERE ELSE in Oregon!
I mean San Jose does have a team in a way so why would they have two teams literally right next to them
Yes since one could argue San Jose is more of a NFL city than San Francisco.
As a Nashvillian I'm always thankfull that we have an NFL team. Also most people in Memphis are either cowboys or steelers fans
Grew up in Memphis (live in Nashville now). Can confirm
@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1 yes definitely not the Saints. By a long shot. I wish Memphis would get a team. The Memphis/Nashville rivalry would be intense.
I heard most ppl in Memphis won't root for the titans since they used to play there and left
@@great-one0389that is true
@@great-one0389most people in Memphis absolutely cannot fucking stand Nashville sports teams.
I wouldn't go to San Jose for front row seats to the second coming of Christ
Could Salt Lake-Provo and that whole huge north to south conurbation along the Salt Lake ever get one?
Not with a NBA and NHL team now.
If they get an MLB expansion team not a chance. Not a big enough market for 5 pro teams.
On paper, yes; it has the population and growth that could attract the NFL. In practice, no, because of the juggernauts of the Utah Utes and BYU Cougars (aka the Holy War) as well as an active push for an MLB franchise in Utah.
First of all, go buckeyes I see you're a big buckeye fan and I'm from the area as well. Second, I think you are right on on all those cities. They do make sense now. There's a couple other cities I've wondered like Oklahoma City or salt lake or Portland. Wondering what your thoughts are or if those would be good for some teams. There are some other cities I can't think of
Jerry Jones maybe only 1 of 32 owners but he has more power than all of the other owners and Godell combined.
I'd have to argue that Robert Kraft has just as much pull with the owners as Jerry Jones
Jerry doesn’t even crack the top 5 richest NFL owners, he definitely has the best location for football though
Jones was instrumental in arm-twisting the other owners to allow Stan Kroenke moving the Rams back to Los Angeles. Clark Hunt also supported it because it made his Chiefs the only team in Missouri.
No, Jerry just has a larger mouth. One that needs to be super glued shut.
He was the only Pepsi team when the rest of the league were Coke teams
Louisville is constantly bickering over pro hoops, but I have yet to hear mention among leaders for football. So add to your list of reasons that they don’t want one.
Bay Area losing population??
Is that a surprise l? Both my daughters left the Bay Area and moved to Texas and Arizona respectively 2 years ago
Losing their minds.
They’re moving to Sacramento
@@sjchevalier07 And Reno, which is now just a San Francisco suburb.
@@tmak26b most ppl from cail moved to Phoenix 🤣 Around 2021
I think Sacramento, Ca would do well with over half a million in the city and 2.5 million in the area. It may never happen because the Bay Area is too close.
You forgot:
Helena, Boseman, Bismarck, Pierre, Spokane, Boise, Oklahoma City, Fresno, Sacramento, Portland, Eugene, Salt Lake City, Wichita, South Bend, Gary, Columbus, Lexington, Greensboro, Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Birmingham, Tallahese, Orlando, Savannah, Richmond
...
You forgot Des Moines.
The NFL will never grant a team to a city with a woman's name.
Portland, Oregon might get an NFL team one day, but definitely not Portland, Maine.
What about Omaha?
Don’t forget Beaumont!
The one you mentioned on here that brought me that surprise Albuquerque. New Mexico
Louisville will get an NBA team in the near future either by expansion or by a relocated New Orleans Pelicans franchise .
Louisville is too small of a market that is not growing. Also, a new arena will need to be built. The downtown KFC arena is unfortunately outdated by current standards. But then again, New Orleans and Memphis have teams. Neither one is growing, even lower than Louisville.
Expansion
@ an arena is already built and it’s NBA ready too
I could see Louisville getting an NBA team but that would be it for pro sports there.
@dvferyance maybe or possibly get a mlb team too
I think you greatly underestimate how much pull and influence Jerry Jones has on the league and it's owners. He's pretty much the reason/catalyst that got Stan Kroenke and the Rams back to LA. As long as he's living there won't be teams in Austin or San Antonio.
ZERO percent chance San Antonio will ever get a team. It’s a one sport city. And that’s the spurs.
Not to mention, people there are Cowboys fans. And they have a VERY small TV market. Austin would be chosen over SA.
Also, you obviously have no idea how much power Jerry Jones has. Maybe he’s just one owner, but he is also the owner of the most valuable sports franchise in the world
But Jerry Jones is in his 80's he aint going to be around too much longer.
Jerry Jones can't stop a third Texas NFL team on his own; he would have to convince 8 other owners to vote against it.
@ still irrelevant that San Antonio can’t support an NFL team. I lived there for a long time. It was always talked about, never came close to happening.
@ 24/32 owners have to ok it. That being said, it’s been talked about going to San Antonio with a team. Never came close. When I lived there it was an every year thing.
Austin, yes. San Antonio, no
Birmingham has always been considered for an NFL team, but they now have a professional team in the Birmingham Stallions which has won 3 straight USFL Championships.
It's not true that Louisville wouldn't support an NFL team. The NFL is very popular here. The majority are not fans of the Bengals, or the Colts, like so many out of towners seem to think. Those that are would drop them in a heartbeat if we had our own team.
memphis showboats? san antonio brahmas? pro football team or nfl team?
I can see a team in Columbus, as it would be like Baltimore in between DC and Philly, which is less distance than between Cleveland and Cincy.
Milwaukee may never get their own NFL franchise, Even though the "Packers" had a successful run winning over 60% of their games in the city of Milwaukee.
good job. I am from Texas . You are right about Jerry. nobody likes him and if a team came to San Antonio or North Austin it would be a HIT.
Uhhhh....I believe South Texas has a football team. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the Houston Texans play in southern Texas. But I could be wrong, although right now, they are the bane of the Colts existence.....
Santa Clara where the 49ers play is right next to the San Jose international airport 😂😂😂