As an OKC fan from OKC, honestly nobody considers the supersonics part of the Thunder. We just don't care. I hope Seattle gets a new Sonics team. But it's important to remember, the ONLY MAJOR PRO SPORT in Oklahoma is the Thunder. We are just glad to have a team and that's why we are fanatics about it. I wish we got our own team from expansion but it happened how it happened.
@@eyewatch2see77 Not about second chances it's about where the fan base for basketball is, and fans don't forget when you steal their team from them. Baltimore Colts anyone?
@@blacksaintsaens wrong!! this aint got nothing to do with a "fan base" .. each of the 8 teams who want to be included, ALL have a fan base .. duh!! THIS is a very lengthy process and it's a process that's complicated to people like you .. (there's a whole lot of details involved) there are 8 different Locations that have to come up with 7-billion dollars, IF they want a team .. THEN there's a bidding process and the HIGHEST bidders will enter an EXPANSION DRAFT in order to be chosen .. (all 8 will NOT be chosen) in the END each existing nba team, will lose players in order to fill the rosters of the expansion teams that were selected ..
If the NBA expands to Mexico, it could replicate the transformative effect seen in Canada. Before the NBA expanded to Toronto and the late Vancouver Grizzlies, in the 90's NBA only had 2-4 Canadians like 2-time MVP Steve Nash, Samuel Dalembert, Jamal Magloire, and Rick Fox. The NBA now boasts 24 Canadian players and 12 more in the G-league during the 2023-24 season. Canadian players like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jamal Murray, RJ Barrett, Andrew Wiggins, Dillion Brooks, Sheldon Sharpe, Luguentz Dort, Benedict Mathurin, Andrew Nembhard, Dwight Powell, Kelly Olynyk, Brandon Clarke, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Delano Banton, Trey Lyles, Caleb Houstan, Oshae Brissett and Tristan Thompson and six other. The expansion to Canada has significantly increased the league's presence in Canada and brought in a wealth of talent who would have chosen a different sport if not for the NBA in Canada. A similar expansion to Mexico could have a similar effect, bringing in new talent and expanding the global reach of the NBA.
There's no chance that the NBA expands to Mexico City. Some of the problems with that include, but not limited to, high elevation, high crime rates, language barrier, many American families of NBA players not wanting to live in Mexico, traveling time between Mexico City and teams from super far away cities (e.g., Boston, New York, Brooklyn & Toronto) being disadvantageous, and basketball not being a favorite sport amongst many Mexicans when you compare basketball to baseball or association football a.k.a. soccer, or lucha libre.
@@TyrellGordon no one knows which of those 5 locations will be the actual EXPANSION teams .. it would be FAIR to the locations that NEVER had a team, to actually have one for the FIRST time, because they too deserve the opportunity to have a team.
@@eyewatch2see77 I’m not denying that, I think it would be cool for a brand new city to get a team. I personally think Vegas will get the next expansion team, but it’s hard for me to not see Seattle as the next city after Vegas to get one
@@eyewatch2see77 you've got to be a buttfucking OKC fan who lives in that dusty shit hole. guaranteed. there's no other reason you've left so many duplicate comments like The Sonics fucked your Mom and forgot to help raise you.
Its not happening. It's really complicated but replacing the Sonics would lose their owners money. you would need shove office space and its infrastructure out the way to make room for the NBA. And in most cities that's reasonable but Seattles downtown is so valuable that the NBA wouldn't make as much money. That's why Howard Schultz got off them.
@@voiceofreason2674a Seattle expansion team would obviously use Climate Pledge Arena, no need to make room when there’s a state of the art arena already in the city.
*Seattle Washington had their chance already* (they dont get a 2nd chance to have a team) *it's somebody else's turn NOW* Las Vegas has EVERY sports team, EXCEPT >the NBA give Las Vegas their missing piece
Seattle and Vegas will be added, Minnesota will move to the Eastern conference to be able to be more geographically related in their division (Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit). The league will have 4 teams per division, 4 divisions per conference. I think they would go Eastern Boston Philly NY Brooklyn Cleveland Toronto Indiana Washington Atlanta Miami Orlando Charlotte Minnesota Milwaukee Detroit Chicago Western LAL LAC Phoenix Las Vegas Seattle Portland Golden State Sacramento Denver Memphis Utah OKC Dallas Houston San Antonio New Orleans
This is how it should go. I’m from Minneapolis and the wolves are way closer to Milwaukee and Chicago than any western conference cities. I could drive to Milwaukee in 4 hours and to Chicago in 6. Takes me 11 hours to drive to Memphis or OKC.
I think you’re on the right track but I think the NBA should just get rid of divisions altogether. Since the format change to just the best 8 teams and then to the play in divisions have been meaningless except for scheduling. I think the NBA should just go Eastern and Western Conference and while making schedules try to keep some of those division rivals alive like Lakers/Clippers, Philly/New York, Heat/Magic etc. That’s just my opinion because I think it makes expansion easier so you don’t have to balance divisions just conferences.
@@MrRebelMan360 bro what, the texas teams NEED to be together. It would make much more sense to be in a division with geographical rivals. The Grizzlies division would be spread out, but it would make sense for them to play teams like OKC
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1.) Seattle 2.) Vancouver Vegas still has a lot of obstacles to overcome still. The two obvious choices have to be Seattle and Vancouver. Both cities got robbed for smaller markets. Both cities with an established fan base and it geographically aligns the NBA alot better. MAKE IT RIGHT ADAM SILVER!!
@@rickthekid5552 Memphis or New Orleans since they're the closes to the east. Memphis would be cool to move to the east if Vancouver is added to the west so there's another rival in the championships. There's also a chance for a Canadian championship between Toronto vs Vancouver.
I've always liked the idea of adding more teams out west so we can bring teams that historically have been out west but should really be east (such as the pelicans or grizzlies) to the eastern conference. I think this would also help to balance out the two conferences as well
@@seroccoprime2774 yes and then the rest they can pick and choose. After Seattle I would want Louisville and St. Louis as eastern conference expansion teams.
Just so you know: From what everyone is saying, it appears that Vegas and Seattle are teams 31 & 32, but if the NBA eventually expands to 36, I see Mexico City as LOCK for the 33rd or 34th team!!! Mexico City is larger than New York City, with over 22 million people living there. (over eight times larger than Vegas) Mexico City has 10's thousands of filthy rich people in areas of the city as beautiful as any city in the USA (the area of Polanco is like Beverly Hills with better food). Mexico City, from a player standpoint, has fantastic restaurants. Mexico City has more top 50 restaurants in the WORLD than any US city, including NYC. As for safety, Mexico City's murder rate is lower than 23 of the 30 NBA cities in the NBA so serious crime is not an issue. For example, the murder rate in Memphis, Detroit, Cleveland, and Philadelphia is 8 to 9 times the rate of Mexico City. Mexico City already has a G-league team and is among the top in attendance. Expanding to Mexico opens the market to 133 million Mexicans and is a doorway to the rest of Latin America. Mexico City is only under 4 hours and 40 minutes by plane to NYC and 4 hours to LA, so distance is fine. As for altitude, the NBA has played over 30 NBA exhibition and regular season games there over the last 20 years (the NBA wouldn't play that many games there IF NO INTEREST) without altitude being an issue for players in those games, including the present G-league team. I have visited Mexico City 3 times for work, and altitude was never an issue. I am no athlete, so NBA players should have ZERO issues dealing with altitude (as players in the G-league). Adam Silver has repeatedly mentioned Mexico City as the next wave of expansion cities if and when the NBA expands beyond 32
There will be a team in Europe before there's ever a team in Mexico. 🤷 The insurance costs of traveling players and staff there regularly just make it a complete no-go financially.
@@Cooe.there will never ever be an NBA team in Europe. The Euroleage is too established and it would kill the growth of basketball in a lot of those countries.
@@Not_Sal This is absolute nonsense. First of all, the NBA doesn't give a shit about Euroleague. (Just like the entire world outside of Europe doesn't). Second of all Adam Silver isn't an idiot. Europe is a MAJOR growth opportunity ripe for the taking. NBA basketball and money wouldn't kill off growth, it would ignite it like a rocket. Your obvious self fart huffing European elitism is very apparent though lol. 🙄
They’ll need it sooner than later. It isn’t just “oh cool my city is getting a NBA team” now, it’s also “this team has five max level players and their rookie bench are averaging 17-18 a game when the starter is out.” Like you said, they NEED it.
I think the logical move would be Vegas and then either Seattle or Vancouver and then move NOLA and Memphis to the east. If they wanted to do something a bit bolder than Mexico City would be a great option as its a HUGE untapped market.
This was done really well! For you to be so young u were able to put together the history of everything really well! Definitely subbed keep up the good work!
As a life long Sonics fan, I partly agree. the NBA is a buisness for the owners, that's how they make their money. The city of Seattle wouldn't give the team a new arena. So, the city of Seattle gets part of the blame.
Yeah I get why the primary focus is to expand within america because that's where the organization resides but come on Canada is a big part to the birth and history of the game, Canada deserves another team, I don't want to be 50 by the time Canada gets another team in another 20+ years at the rate of expansion from the last one
Video is rad!! Killed that. Imo tho Oakland took the A’s and the Warriors from Philly back in the day. The Warriors one hurts as a Philly fan cuz they kept all the Philly championships and Wilt Chamberlain and the Raiders were back and forth from Oakland to LA over the years. Sucks but 2/3 of those teams aren’t even originally Oakland. S/O Philly and the Owls lmao
As a Oregonian and Blazers guy, don't let anyone tell you that we aren't just as much fans of the Sonics, and vise versa. Those are the lies of our fan bases, but deep down we all love both teams equally. #BringBackOurSonics #Sternzilla
All they need to do realistically is get deals finalized with seattle and LV future owners and governments of the city, and then annouce them at the same time or close to each other, and move new orleans to the eastern conference (where i think it should of been all along) and then it would be a perfect 16 and 16 in each conference
I think Minnesota makes much more sense to move to the east, it would have to travel less with the Bulls, Bucks, Pistons, & Pacers pretty close by while the Pelicans would have way worse travel if they went to the east.
Montreal Quebec Canadá would be a perfect nba city, as well as Seattle, Baltimore, Vancouver Las Vegas, San Diego, Kansas City, Louisville, Pittsburg or even another team in New York City or specifically a New Jersey team, you could Make arguments for so many places
the Nets just moved from New Jersey to Brooklyn because New Jersey didn't give them a new arena. That's the same reason why the Sonics left Seattle for OKC. Seattle has a new arena. Why would they put another team in New Jersey with no new arena?
The 2 smartest options are Vancouver and Seattle, both had teams taken from them, both would have lots of fans, both are big markets, both are in the actual northwest to help out teams like Minnesota who can now move to a conference which actually makes sense for them to be In , I think there’s 0 debate here, Vegas can come later
Las Vegas has "every single sports team" that there is to have, they're only missing 1 > an NBA team .. (which is why they'll be the perfect location for an NBA expansion team) duh!!
I have lived in Oregon for 23 years. But, I lived west of Seattle, two different times, for a total of 14 1/2 years beforehand. When I moved here, my loyalties were set to the state of Washington. I have remained true. The Huskies, Seahawks, Sonics, Kraken, Sounders, and Mariners are all my favorite teams in their respective sports leagues and levels. I lived in Alaska from 95 to 99, but didn't get into hockey much because Seattle just had the Thunderbirds. Now that they got the Kraken, I like hockey! I hope they bring back the Sonics so I'll have a favorite NBA team again!!!
I think the cool thing that this video pointed out is the continuation of the historic trend of NHL franchises being the impetus for places getting NBA teams since the arena is able to be switched easily.
We all know how Centre Bell can break players' ears: you only need to look at the last NBA games in there. Montreal is big enough as a market to make it work. Only, the biggest obstacle is the ownership. Sure, much has been made of what made Montreal unattractive to players (horrible weather and taxation; language is not as big of a deal since living in Montreal without knowing French is feasible on a NBA salary, just don't expect to live anywhere in the city) and it will probably force Montreal into the luxury tax, and maybe even first apron...
I sincerely believe the hold-up is that they would have move two Western Conference teams to the Eastern Conference (assuming the two chosen cities are Seattle and Las Vegas). Logically the two teams that would be considered is between Minnesota, Memphis, or New Orleans. Even though New Orleans is technically further East than Minnesota, most of the teams within proximity to the Wolves are East teams, whereas all the Texas teams are West, and they're much closer to New Orleans. So the two chosen teams should be Memphis and Minnesota. Minnesota in the East now would become an immediate Finals contender, and a few Memphis teams in the 2000s/2010s might have spoiled for the Finals. I don't know if the other owners would want that. I think they like the status quo.
little late, but this is great for your first vid, id reccomend adding text when quoting somebody, and when you cut to yourself, try not to have your script off to the side as it can be pretty noticeable. But seriously, interesting topic and solid editing!
The talent pool in the NBA is currently the strongest it has ever been. In the 2023-24 season, 140 foreign-born players (25%). In contrast, in 1990, there were only 21 foreign-born players (4.5%). The number of American-born players has decreased slightly (17 less), with 421 in 2023-24 compared to 438 in 1990, despite a larger league size (30 teams now versus 27 in 1990). This decline in American-born players is noteworthy, given the significant increase in the US population by 95 million since 1990. The rest of the world produces more talented NBA players, 120 more foreign-born players than in 1990. This suggests the league's overall talent level has grown and could potentially expand to 36 teams.
This was a great video and very informative. It is time to see the NBA expand. I would love to see the NBA back in Seattle and in Vegas. The problem I see with having an expansion team in Seattle is the fact that it would take years for the franchise to see any real success and I’m not sure that city can take on or accept a loosing franchise. The fact that there is not any generational players coming out of the draft any time soon as well as the lack of star free agents would leave Seattle as a bottom feeder for many years. Now as for expanding to Vegas… this would be a fantastic for the NBA. Vegas is quickly becoming a sports Meca. I could see plenty of players wanting to play in Vegas. I don’t think it will take very long at all for Vegas team to be successful. The one factor that I can’t see is that Vegas won’t have a team until LeBron James retires. Simply because LeBron cannot own a team and play for another team buried and everybody knows that LeBron Would be the key component to bring Vegas to the NBA. As much as people don’t wanna hear it I can see the NBA, expanding to Vegas and Mexico City before Seattle gets their team back. A team in Mexico City would not have such a high demand for a quick successful team. This would allow the NBA to cross the southern border and start a whole new market. Much like they did and Canada. The demand would not be so high for success considering the people of Mexico City would be happy to watch the game.
The new cities should be Seattle and St. Louis. Seattle is essentially ensured, and St. Louis has atrongly proved itself as a sports city along with being a large dead spot on the map
its not happening we can barely get people too come too canadiens games. And the people that would come too games live in the west island and other suburbs. our upside is our transit
For those of you who don't know, the Oakland A's move to Vegas is NOT complete. In fact, they don't have an agreement on an arena. As such, the Oakland A's will be playing in a minor league ballpark in the middle of Sacramento for AT LEAST two seasons.
While the pool of super stars is only marginally better on a per team basis, the pool of starter caliber talent has increased by at least 5 or 6 times over the past 20 years. Now days, players' prospects for playing time are based more around fit and coaching decisions than actual skill, as the 6th best and 12th best players on any given team are basically the same in talent and skill level. The league has expanded roster sizes to accommodate, and it has also become more lax towards allowing star players "rest", knowing that there is less of a drop off in talent and that it gives more players the minutes needed to show that talent. The overflow of talent is so great that foreign leagues have secured NBA starter level talent much more than ever before, and the league has less interest in giving the youngest and oldest players the minutes and opportunities it once did, forcing many younger players to stay in college or go overseas or play in the G-League, and older players to retire earlier or go overseas, where they once would've been given a bigger role on an NBA team. This proves the league can easily absorb at least two more teams with no noticeable drop off in quality per team.
I think expansion will be quite good for prospects. Every new team adds roughly 20 thousand new player minutes per year, because teams are too talented at this moment to wait for currently bad young guys to maybe be good. More minutes in general and more bad teams will help get young prospects minutes and opportunity.
Adding more teams would be good for high paying players with the new cba. More guys wouldn’t have to take pay cuts and they could also get more opportunity. Plus there would be less super teams. Not to mention I would just be excited to see what kind of names they come up with.
Most likely, the expansion cities will be Seattle, Las Vegas in the West and probably a toss up with Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Nashville, St.Louis and Montreal as the biggest contenders for a team in the East. (Buffalo won't happen because of how close they are to Toronto and Baltimore won't happen because of DC and Philly). And yes, it will change everything as it currently is in the NBA. Expansion always does. Which is a good thing. The league would get stale if it didn't change some things now and then. Though, I am sure there are a few things we can say we wish would come back. Kansas City and San Diego could eventually get teams again as well. Though, I have a feeling that Memphis is going to want to keep St.Louis and Nashville free if they decide to move out of Memphis, just simply because there is a lot more money in either market if they go there and I know they are going to want to get a new arena in the near future.
Im Australian and i can say for sure there is no competition between the NBL and the NBA the truth is we do love basketball but not as much as AFL or Rugby and much more importantly we dont invest money in to sports teams the same as you guys do and thats in any sport to use afl as an example the first every player to sign a million dollar contract was in 2007 and AFL started in 1896 the current highest payed AFL playe makes 1.5 million and NBL players earn around 400 thousand if they're good and i believe the highest paid is on 850 thousand so your are very correct in saying internationally atleast for the NBL there is no competition we just couldn't match the talent and money of the NBA and probably never will we just don't commercialise sports the same as the USA
@@Himmyjewett it was won in 1979 they were the Seattle Supersonics they didn't become the Thunder until 2008 unless you know something I don't where KD won a championship before he joined the Warriors
It wouldn’t physically be the Sonics, but everyone would say it’s the Sonics, because it would be a expansion team, they wouldn’t be getting their history back
I get that the league wants to expand into Seattle and Las Vegas, but doing so will make it so that they’re an uneven number of teams in each conference. Will they finally make New Orleans an Eastern Conference team? Especially since they’re on the eastern part of the US. This is the biggest question for me.
Considering the Raiders moved to Las Vegas and the A's are in the process, is it too far fetched to think that Vegas would be awarded the Sonics licensing and branding? Las Vegas Sonics could be something..
When the Sonics comeback that rivalry with OKC is going to be good
As an OKC fan from OKC, honestly nobody considers the supersonics part of the Thunder. We just don't care. I hope Seattle gets a new Sonics team.
But it's important to remember, the ONLY MAJOR PRO SPORT in Oklahoma is the Thunder. We are just glad to have a team and that's why we are fanatics about it.
I wish we got our own team from expansion but it happened how it happened.
Seattle Washington had their chance already
(they dont get a 2nd chance to have a team)
it's somebody else's turn NOW
@@eyewatch2see77 Not about second chances it's about where the fan base for basketball is, and fans don't forget when you steal their team from them. Baltimore Colts anyone?
@@blacksaintsaens no 2nd chances
go research the REAL history on WHY Seattle dont have a team ...
@@blacksaintsaens wrong!!
this aint got nothing to do with a "fan base" .. each of the 8 teams who want to be included, ALL have a fan base .. duh!!
THIS is a very lengthy process
and it's a process that's complicated to people like you ..
(there's a whole lot of details involved)
there are 8 different Locations that have to come up with 7-billion dollars, IF they want a team ..
THEN there's a bidding process and the HIGHEST bidders will enter an
EXPANSION DRAFT in order to be chosen .. (all 8 will NOT be chosen)
in the END each existing nba team, will lose players in order to fill the rosters of the expansion teams that were selected ..
If the NBA expands to Mexico, it could replicate the transformative effect seen in Canada. Before the NBA expanded to Toronto and the late Vancouver Grizzlies, in the 90's NBA only had 2-4 Canadians like 2-time MVP Steve Nash, Samuel Dalembert, Jamal Magloire, and Rick Fox. The NBA now boasts 24 Canadian players and 12 more in the G-league during the 2023-24 season. Canadian players like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jamal Murray, RJ Barrett, Andrew Wiggins, Dillion Brooks, Sheldon Sharpe, Luguentz Dort, Benedict Mathurin, Andrew Nembhard, Dwight Powell, Kelly Olynyk, Brandon Clarke, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Delano Banton, Trey Lyles, Caleb Houstan, Oshae Brissett and Tristan Thompson and six other. The expansion to Canada has significantly increased the league's presence in Canada and brought in a wealth of talent who would have chosen a different sport if not for the NBA in Canada. A similar expansion to Mexico could have a similar effect, bringing in new talent and expanding the global reach of the NBA.
Ain’t no 5’5 Mexican hooper makin the league bro.. but u right tho
There's no chance that the NBA expands to Mexico City. Some of the problems with that include, but not limited to, high elevation, high crime rates, language barrier, many American families of NBA players not wanting to live in Mexico, traveling time between Mexico City and teams from super far away cities (e.g., Boston, New York, Brooklyn & Toronto) being disadvantageous, and basketball not being a favorite sport amongst many Mexicans when you compare basketball to baseball or association football a.k.a. soccer, or lucha libre.
Diego Sanchez jersey would be crazy.
ChatGPT
@@SilasSinclair-c4i what about ChatGBT. I wrote it myself and researched the Canadians in the NBA as I am Canadian.
Seattle supersonic jerseys would go hard
been there done that
(no 2nd chances)
they had their turn
@@eyewatch2see77idk about you but I think they’ll get their second chance eventually. Might not be now but I can def see it
@@TyrellGordon no one knows
which of those 5 locations will be the actual EXPANSION teams ..
it would be FAIR to the locations that NEVER had a team, to actually have one for the FIRST time, because they too deserve the opportunity to have a team.
@@eyewatch2see77 I’m not denying that, I think it would be cool for a brand new city to get a team. I personally think Vegas will get the next expansion team, but it’s hard for me to not see Seattle as the next city after Vegas to get one
@@eyewatch2see77 you've got to be a buttfucking OKC fan who lives in that dusty shit hole. guaranteed. there's no other reason you've left so many duplicate comments like The Sonics fucked your Mom and forgot to help raise you.
Bring back the Seattle Supersonics!
Its gonna be Vegas unfortunately
Its not happening. It's really complicated but replacing the Sonics would lose their owners money. you would need shove office space and its infrastructure out the way to make room for the NBA. And in most cities that's reasonable but Seattles downtown is so valuable that the NBA wouldn't make as much money. That's why Howard Schultz got off them.
@@voiceofreason2674a Seattle expansion team would obviously use Climate Pledge Arena, no need to make room when there’s a state of the art arena already in the city.
Nah
*Seattle Washington had their chance already*
(they dont get a 2nd chance to have a team)
*it's somebody else's turn NOW*
Las Vegas has EVERY sports team,
EXCEPT >the NBA
give Las Vegas their missing piece
Seattle and Vegas will be added, Minnesota will move to the Eastern conference to be able to be more geographically related in their division (Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit). The league will have 4 teams per division, 4 divisions per conference. I think they would go
Eastern
Boston Philly NY Brooklyn
Cleveland Toronto Indiana Washington
Atlanta Miami Orlando Charlotte
Minnesota Milwaukee Detroit Chicago
Western
LAL LAC Phoenix Las Vegas
Seattle Portland Golden State Sacramento
Denver Memphis Utah OKC
Dallas Houston San Antonio New Orleans
This is how it should go.
I’m from Minneapolis and the wolves are way closer to Milwaukee and Chicago than any western conference cities.
I could drive to Milwaukee in 4 hours and to Chicago in 6.
Takes me 11 hours to drive to Memphis or OKC.
I think you’re on the right track but I think the NBA should just get rid of divisions altogether. Since the format change to just the best 8 teams and then to the play in divisions have been meaningless except for scheduling. I think the NBA should just go Eastern and Western Conference and while making schedules try to keep some of those division rivals alive like Lakers/Clippers, Philly/New York, Heat/Magic etc. That’s just my opinion because I think it makes expansion easier so you don’t have to balance divisions just conferences.
I agree but would swap Brooklyn and DC
Why Memphis in with Denver and Utah? It’s closest to NOLA and should be in a division with them. Split the Texas teams up
@@MrRebelMan360 bro what, the texas teams NEED to be together. It would make much more sense to be in a division with geographical rivals. The Grizzlies division would be spread out, but it would make sense for them to play teams like OKC
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Thank you!
AGREED!!!
@tiaralee#der
If Mexico gets a team San Antonio is gonna be a battle ground
✔a Mexico City nba team .. (yes)
I'm here for the Tijuana Putos
@@zibberebbizdon’t let FIFA hear you use that word
If the NBA expands to the SuperSonics Kevin Durant should sign a one-year or a 1 day deal just to retire with them
More like a 10-day contract...
1.) Seattle
2.) Vancouver
Vegas still has a lot of obstacles to overcome still. The two obvious choices have to be Seattle and Vancouver. Both cities got robbed for smaller markets. Both cities with an established fan base and it geographically aligns the NBA alot better.
MAKE IT RIGHT ADAM SILVER!!
Yes 😊
Nah, cuz Vancouver has a problem with its own population right now
@@Neotoxy_ How so??
Both teams would be in the west which west team would you make move to east
@@rickthekid5552 Memphis or New Orleans since they're the closes to the east.
Memphis would be cool to move to the east if Vancouver is added to the west so there's another rival in the championships. There's also a chance for a Canadian championship between Toronto vs Vancouver.
I like the way you present your personal opinion on the topic here and there. This is a great video. You’re gonna be big one day if you keep at it!
Right. Like this video was shockingly good and well presented
Other cities deserve a NBA team too like Louisville, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, San Diego and St. Louis.
I've always liked the idea of adding more teams out west so we can bring teams that historically have been out west but should really be east (such as the pelicans or grizzlies) to the eastern conference. I think this would also help to balance out the two conferences as well
@@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 Timberwolves definitely
Get the Sonics back in Seattle first
@@seroccoprime2774 yes and then the rest they can pick and choose. After Seattle I would want Louisville and St. Louis as eastern conference expansion teams.
Kc and San Diego have had teams before.
Damn what a great and complete video. Keep up the good work dude!
Just so you know: From what everyone is saying, it appears that Vegas and Seattle are teams 31 & 32, but if the NBA eventually expands to 36, I see Mexico City as LOCK for the 33rd or 34th team!!! Mexico City is larger than New York City, with over 22 million people living there. (over eight times larger than Vegas) Mexico City has 10's thousands of filthy rich people in areas of the city as beautiful as any city in the USA (the area of Polanco is like Beverly Hills with better food). Mexico City, from a player standpoint, has fantastic restaurants. Mexico City has more top 50 restaurants in the WORLD than any US city, including NYC. As for safety, Mexico City's murder rate is lower than 23 of the 30 NBA cities in the NBA so serious crime is not an issue. For example, the murder rate in Memphis, Detroit, Cleveland, and Philadelphia is 8 to 9 times the rate of Mexico City. Mexico City already has a G-league team and is among the top in attendance. Expanding to Mexico opens the market to 133 million Mexicans and is a doorway to the rest of Latin America. Mexico City is only under 4 hours and 40 minutes by plane to NYC and 4 hours to LA, so distance is fine. As for altitude, the NBA has played over 30 NBA exhibition and regular season games there over the last 20 years (the NBA wouldn't play that many games there IF NO INTEREST) without altitude being an issue for players in those games, including the present G-league team. I have visited Mexico City 3 times for work, and altitude was never an issue. I am no athlete, so NBA players should have ZERO issues dealing with altitude (as players in the G-league). Adam Silver has repeatedly mentioned Mexico City as the next wave of expansion cities if and when the NBA expands beyond 32
There will be a team in Europe before there's ever a team in Mexico. 🤷 The insurance costs of traveling players and staff there regularly just make it a complete no-go financially.
There never will be a team from Europe in the nba for at least the next 20 years, the nba would rather move to richer Middle East than europe
@@Cooe.there will never ever be an NBA team in Europe. The Euroleage is too established and it would kill the growth of basketball in a lot of those countries.
@@Not_Sal This is absolute nonsense. First of all, the NBA doesn't give a shit about Euroleague. (Just like the entire world outside of Europe doesn't). Second of all Adam Silver isn't an idiot. Europe is a MAJOR growth opportunity ripe for the taking. NBA basketball and money wouldn't kill off growth, it would ignite it like a rocket. Your obvious self fart huffing European elitism is very apparent though lol. 🙄
mexico city is literally like LA but in mexico
This is an amazing first video - keep it up! The doodle drawings are a nice touch. I subscribed.
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League expanded when Jordan badbulls in 90s when the talent pool wasn't even that big but now team got hella talent expansion makes sense needs it
They’ll need it sooner than later. It isn’t just “oh cool my city is getting a NBA team” now, it’s also “this team has five max level players and their rookie bench are averaging 17-18 a game when the starter is out.” Like you said, they NEED it.
Nice content dude! Very impressive for one of your first videos! I’m very impressed with the composition and found footage used.
I think the logical move would be Vegas and then either Seattle or Vancouver and then move NOLA and Memphis to the east. If they wanted to do something a bit bolder than Mexico City would be a great option as its a HUGE untapped market.
This video just earned u a sub. Very well written and spoken. Keep it up more success is on the way!💪🏿
Not sure if you mentioned this, but Vegas seems to be the indefinite home for the In-Season Tournament.
Las Vegas is the HOME of "every single sport" that there is ..
there's only 1 missing > an NBA team ..
Love the background music
What sonic soundtrack is that from again?
Nice research and delivery. Keep up the good work
This was done really well! For you to be so young u were able to put together the history of everything really well! Definitely subbed keep up the good work!
So glad I found your channel! Super informative.
Very well put together video man, will be subscribing for more content!
great video breaking down the history of how we got here. shoutout to the pokemon BGM and alchemist beats in the background
Seattle, Vegas, KC, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Montreal. 36 teams, 6 divisions of 6
Take out Montreal and put in Louisville instead
@@dreamcage1801 no
@@Justfrank_0 why not
@@dreamcage1801 Montreal need one man
@@Justfrank_0 I understand that but silver said that it's unlikely that international cities are going to get expanded
The Sonic 2 Casino Night music while talking about Vegas. Genius! 😂
Bro looks like Xavi Simmons
Mexico City team would have so much aura.
The beat choice in this video is elite. Family Business, E. Colli, That’s That, etc.
excellent narration and writing. Good job. Also, Go Owls!
Super awesome video man. Well spoken, researched, and informative!!! Subscribed
Seattle had their team stolen. Blame goes to Stern for allowing it to happen
As a life long Sonics fan, I partly agree. the NBA is a buisness for the owners, that's how they make their money. The city of Seattle wouldn't give the team a new arena. So, the city of Seattle gets part of the blame.
CANADA NEED A SECOND TEAM. Montreal x Toronto rivalries would feed families man
Yeah I get why the primary focus is to expand within america because that's where the organization resides but come on Canada is a big part to the birth and history of the game, Canada deserves another team, I don't want to be 50 by the time Canada gets another team in another 20+ years at the rate of expansion from the last one
This is a great video bro I like how you put everything together 💯🙏🏽💪🏽
Thumbs up and subscribed my guy hope you the best in your career 👌
Video is rad!! Killed that. Imo tho Oakland took the A’s and the Warriors from Philly back in the day. The Warriors one hurts as a Philly fan cuz they kept all the Philly championships and Wilt Chamberlain and the Raiders were back and forth from Oakland to LA over the years. Sucks but 2/3 of those teams aren’t even originally Oakland. S/O Philly and the Owls lmao
Great video
As a Oregonian and Blazers guy, don't let anyone tell you that we aren't just as much fans of the Sonics, and vise versa. Those are the lies of our fan bases, but deep down we all love both teams equally. #BringBackOurSonics #Sternzilla
I've lived in Salem for 23. But, I grew up partly in Washington. I am loyal to the Seattle teams! I want that I-5 rivalry to come back!!!!
Great video with informative insights on the NBA's future!
Great video, very well done.
is that DOOM in the background? good vid bro👍
What a great video. No clue how old you are but this video was way past 4 years. You didn’t excellent job, but I am now subscribing.
I love that you used the Casino Night theme from Sonic 2 for the background music for the Vegas portion of the video
All they need to do realistically is get deals finalized with seattle and LV future owners and governments of the city, and then annouce them at the same time or close to each other, and move new orleans to the eastern conference (where i think it should of been all along) and then it would be a perfect 16 and 16 in each conference
I think Minnesota makes much more sense to move to the east, it would have to travel less with the Bulls, Bucks, Pistons, & Pacers pretty close by while the Pelicans would have way worse travel if they went to the east.
Didn’t expect to see so much footage of my Maine Celtics in this vid but it was quite welcomed. Great vid.
I dont feel bad for oakland! California has like 18 teams or some shit in the 4 major leagues.
Montreal Quebec Canadá would be a perfect nba city, as well as Seattle, Baltimore, Vancouver Las Vegas, San Diego, Kansas City, Louisville, Pittsburg or even another team in New York City or specifically a New Jersey team, you could
Make arguments for so many places
the Nets just moved from New Jersey to Brooklyn because New Jersey didn't give them a new arena. That's the same reason why the Sonics left Seattle for OKC. Seattle has a new arena. Why would they put another team in New Jersey with no new arena?
Nice job researching this.
glad this video is blowing up bro
Absolute banger of an analysis. Great job brother!
Great video - very well done!
Let's get you to 1,000 subs and monetization, my man. Keep it up!
Sonics v Thunder is going to be an intense feud for certain as well as the return of the i5 rivalry with the Portland Trail Blazers.
didnt think about that... 😮
This is great. Keep it up, young man!
The 2 smartest options are Vancouver and Seattle, both had teams taken from them, both would have lots of fans, both are big markets, both are in the actual northwest to help out teams like Minnesota who can now move to a conference which actually makes sense for them to be In , I think there’s 0 debate here, Vegas can come later
Vancouver and Seattle
both had NBA teams in the past
(there's no 2nd chances)
a location that NEVER had an NBA team
would be a FAIR focal point ..
Las Vegas has "every single sports team" that there is to have,
they're only missing 1 > an NBA team ..
(which is why they'll be the perfect location for an NBA expansion team) duh!!
I have lived in Oregon for 23 years. But, I lived west of Seattle, two different times, for a total of 14 1/2 years beforehand. When I moved here, my loyalties were set to the state of Washington. I have remained true. The Huskies, Seahawks, Sonics, Kraken, Sounders, and Mariners are all my favorite teams in their respective sports leagues and levels. I lived in Alaska from 95 to 99, but didn't get into hockey much because Seattle just had the Thunderbirds. Now that they got the Kraken, I like hockey! I hope they bring back the Sonics so I'll have a favorite NBA team again!!!
I think the cool thing that this video pointed out is the continuation of the historic trend of NHL franchises being the impetus for places getting NBA teams since the arena is able to be switched easily.
Mexico please…. I could rep two teams
You live in Mexico?
@@TommyTomTompkins yea home here and home there why
#DaBulls
Great first video. I’m going to start using “I don’t have a horse in this fight”
*the actual saying IS* > i dont have a horse in this RACE
Montreal with an nba team would be sick
We all know how Centre Bell can break players' ears: you only need to look at the last NBA games in there. Montreal is big enough as a market to make it work.
Only, the biggest obstacle is the ownership.
Sure, much has been made of what made Montreal unattractive to players (horrible weather and taxation; language is not as big of a deal since living in Montreal without knowing French is feasible on a NBA salary, just don't expect to live anywhere in the city) and it will probably force Montreal into the luxury tax, and maybe even first apron...
I’m saying, they need to make it happen man
Fantastic essay and video, kid! Hope your English teachers are proud 😅
As a Northern Kentuckian, I would love to see a team in either Louisville or Cincinnati.
A video this good with only 260 subs is crazy, good work man
Bro, don't feel bad for Oakland fans. They still have every pro sport locally. They just have to travel 15 minutes further to see it.
Imagine if the Sonics come back and win the championship before OKC💀
That'd be peak basketball
Excellent video!
If they're going to add two more, one has to be Seattle Supersonics!
I sincerely believe the hold-up is that they would have move two Western Conference teams to the Eastern Conference (assuming the two chosen cities are Seattle and Las Vegas). Logically the two teams that would be considered is between Minnesota, Memphis, or New Orleans. Even though New Orleans is technically further East than Minnesota, most of the teams within proximity to the Wolves are East teams, whereas all the Texas teams are West, and they're much closer to New Orleans. So the two chosen teams should be Memphis and Minnesota. Minnesota in the East now would become an immediate Finals contender, and a few Memphis teams in the 2000s/2010s might have spoiled for the Finals. I don't know if the other owners would want that. I think they like the status quo.
Ja Morant with Zac Edey JJJ is a better team than ant man Gobert and Conley.... They are much greater team if they stay healthy.
😂 I hear that Sonic stage music playing 👍
little late, but this is great for your first vid, id reccomend adding text when quoting somebody, and when you cut to yourself, try not to have your script off to the side as it can be pretty noticeable. But seriously, interesting topic and solid editing!
We need more teams now seriously
Well edited/made video I shall say
As a Thunder Fan im wishing for Seattle to get a Explanation team. If for all else to end any curse that maybe on them.
there will be NO second chances
(seattle already had an NBA team in the past)
@@eyewatch2see77 all the rumors are that Las Vegas and Seattle are the top two choices for NBA expansion!
@@tahuyachris rumors LOL!!!
get you some FACTS ..
The talent pool in the NBA is currently the strongest it has ever been. In the 2023-24 season, 140 foreign-born players (25%). In contrast, in 1990, there were only 21 foreign-born players (4.5%). The number of American-born players has decreased slightly (17 less), with 421 in 2023-24 compared to 438 in 1990, despite a larger league size (30 teams now versus 27 in 1990). This decline in American-born players is noteworthy, given the significant increase in the US population by 95 million since 1990. The rest of the world produces more talented NBA players, 120 more foreign-born players than in 1990. This suggests the league's overall talent level has grown and could potentially expand to 36 teams.
Seattle, Mexico City, Las Vegas, Vancouver
I fw ur videos dawg. Keep it up
This was a great video and very informative. It is time to see the NBA expand. I would love to see the NBA back in Seattle and in Vegas. The problem I see with having an expansion team in Seattle is the fact that it would take years for the franchise to see any real success and I’m not sure that city can take on or accept a loosing franchise. The fact that there is not any generational players coming out of the draft any time soon as well as the lack of star free agents would leave Seattle as a bottom feeder for many years.
Now as for expanding to Vegas… this would be a fantastic for the NBA. Vegas is quickly becoming a sports Meca. I could see plenty of players wanting to play in Vegas. I don’t think it will take very long at all for Vegas team to be successful. The one factor that I can’t see is that Vegas won’t have a team until LeBron James retires. Simply because LeBron cannot own a team and play for another team buried and everybody knows that LeBron Would be the key component to bring Vegas to the NBA. As much as people don’t wanna hear it I can see the NBA, expanding to Vegas and Mexico City before Seattle gets their team back. A team in Mexico City would not have such a high demand for a quick successful team. This would allow the NBA to cross the southern border and start a whole new market. Much like they did and Canada. The demand would not be so high for success considering the people of Mexico City would be happy to watch the game.
I still say Louisville needs a team, great basketball market and die hard fans, they deserve something!
*@fiftyfourpts* 👍
you perfected THAT presentation
(im subscribing to your channel)
If they go Seattle and Nevada, what teams are being pushed into the east? Gotta have balance
The new cities should be Seattle and St. Louis. Seattle is essentially ensured, and St. Louis has atrongly proved itself as a sports city along with being a large dead spot on the map
We need a team in Montreal
its not happening we can barely get people too come too canadiens games. And the people that would come too games live in the west island and other suburbs. our upside is our transit
@@simonrappoport3678not even true. Most Habs games are sold out!
@@simonrappoport3678 they’re not even good are they?
For those of you who don't know, the Oakland A's move to Vegas is NOT complete. In fact, they don't have an agreement on an arena. As such, the Oakland A's will be playing in a minor league ballpark in the middle of Sacramento for AT LEAST two seasons.
great video 👍
While the pool of super stars is only marginally better on a per team basis, the pool of starter caliber talent has increased by at least 5 or 6 times over the past 20 years. Now days, players' prospects for playing time are based more around fit and coaching decisions than actual skill, as the 6th best and 12th best players on any given team are basically the same in talent and skill level. The league has expanded roster sizes to accommodate, and it has also become more lax towards allowing star players "rest", knowing that there is less of a drop off in talent and that it gives more players the minutes needed to show that talent. The overflow of talent is so great that foreign leagues have secured NBA starter level talent much more than ever before, and the league has less interest in giving the youngest and oldest players the minutes and opportunities it once did, forcing many younger players to stay in college or go overseas or play in the G-League, and older players to retire earlier or go overseas, where they once would've been given a bigger role on an NBA team. This proves the league can easily absorb at least two more teams with no noticeable drop off in quality per team.
I wanna see Mexico and Vegas get a team
👍
I think expansion will be quite good for prospects. Every new team adds roughly 20 thousand new player minutes per year, because teams are too talented at this moment to wait for currently bad young guys to maybe be good.
More minutes in general and more bad teams will help get young prospects minutes and opportunity.
Adding more teams would be good for high paying players with the new cba. More guys wouldn’t have to take pay cuts and they could also get more opportunity. Plus there would be less super teams. Not to mention I would just be excited to see what kind of names they come up with.
We all know its going to be Vegas and Seattle. Adam basically confirmed it in an interview
Most likely, the expansion cities will be Seattle, Las Vegas in the West and probably a toss up with Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Nashville, St.Louis and Montreal as the biggest contenders for a team in the East. (Buffalo won't happen because of how close they are to Toronto and Baltimore won't happen because of DC and Philly).
And yes, it will change everything as it currently is in the NBA. Expansion always does.
Which is a good thing. The league would get stale if it didn't change some things now and then.
Though, I am sure there are a few things we can say we wish would come back.
Kansas City and San Diego could eventually get teams again as well. Though, I have a feeling that Memphis is going to want to keep St.Louis and Nashville free if they decide to move out of Memphis, just simply because there is a lot more money in either market if they go there and I know they are going to want to get a new arena in the near future.
theyre not going to expand by that much. 32 to match the NFL seattle Vancouver vegas realistically and redefine the conferences and divisions
Im Australian and i can say for sure there is no competition between the NBL and the NBA the truth is we do love basketball but not as much as AFL or Rugby and much more importantly we dont invest money in to sports teams the same as you guys do and thats in any sport to use afl as an example the first every player to sign a million dollar contract was in 2007 and AFL started in 1896 the current highest payed AFL playe makes 1.5 million and NBL players earn around 400 thousand if they're good and i believe the highest paid is on 850 thousand so your are very correct in saying internationally atleast for the NBL there is no competition we just couldn't match the talent and money of the NBA and probably never will we just don't commercialise sports the same as the USA
If the Sonics do come back do they get their title back?
Nope
@@ammarnapata2193 why not it's their championship
@@1highvelocity1 no it's okcs
@@Himmyjewett it was won in 1979 they were the Seattle Supersonics they didn't become the Thunder until 2008 unless you know something I don't where KD won a championship before he joined the Warriors
It wouldn’t physically be the Sonics, but everyone would say it’s the Sonics, because it would be a expansion team, they wouldn’t be getting their history back
The dialog and the durag... you gonna get a lot of "articulate" good shiza young.
I get that the league wants to expand into Seattle and Las Vegas, but doing so will make it so that they’re an uneven number of teams in each conference. Will they finally make New Orleans an Eastern Conference team? Especially since they’re on the eastern part of the US. This is the biggest question for me.
moving memphis to the east too will be great imo!
Considering the Raiders moved to Las Vegas and the A's are in the process, is it too far fetched to think that Vegas would be awarded the Sonics licensing and branding? Las Vegas Sonics could be something..
I want this to happen, so my Wolves get moved to the East
Put a team in Louisville, St. Louis and San Diego too
great vid bro 👌
w vid bruh keep up it up