Except it's NOT the truth. The truth is that each American state is a sovereign nation by original intent, while the Union among them was only one _agency_,, while the principal nationality belonged to the People of the individual state-- i.e. by law, each state is a separate sovereign nation, and its _People_ the ruling sovereigns; meanwhile the USA was just like the EU, and secession by the CSA was just like Brexit by the UK. Get it?
I agree Tom, the only thing that looks odd in what you wrote, is that a nation is A People, not a country (geographical) for instance the Japanese people, the Swedish people, the Southern people, etc are all peoples. Where as Florida, California, Texas, New Hampshire, etc. are countries. In that a country is a body of land. For instance the CSA as you mentioned was a Confederacy comprised of 13 or 11 sovereign countries of a similar people (The Southern People).
Ahhhhh!!!!! I've been looking for this ever since I read the Article Tom woods referenced about Ron Paul. Jeff Deist!!!! Please continue you mission!!!! you're changing the world one guy and gal at a time!!!!
I know I’m commenting on a six year old video. I’ve seen many presentations by Jeff Diest over the years and I’ve liked all of them, but this one stands out as my #1 favorite. It is both motivational and inspiring yet practical and hopeful by presenting specific, realistic, actionable ways we can all achieve greater freedom. Bravo, Jeff! 👍🏻👏🏻
Taxes are lower. You are not forced to have your children in school. You can own guns more easier. The state is more decentralized. They are not part of EU. They haven't participated in any worse for a very long time. Language might be the only problem or at least the biggest :P
An excellent speech with a list of practical measures that we can all take to get the state out of our lives on a personal level. I enjoyed it very much.
An Excellent playlist of Mises Institute speeches, by some of the most intellectual minds in the modern "liberty movement". Nullification without the means and desire to back it up is just a half-baked solution that always ends us back into the same place that we started in.
Excellent breakdown of the elements supporting the natural origin of secession right out of the gate, will continue with the rest of the lecture- more comment forthcoming lol
To his further point- as Buckminster Fuller said “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
My UA-cam channel "Divide and Diversify" play list is all about secession. My idea is to have a web site, like one of those dating sites where you can fill out your political profile and then find like minded others to start to built your own nation based on common ideology. We should be divided along ideological lines.
+Ed Waggoner Sr. (Papatch) Competitive currencies like bitcoin are a viable option for seceding from dollars or any other fiat currency. Barter or direct exchange is too inefficient for any society.
RonPaul Revered I too am a Bitcoin fan, but more for the protocol than the use of Bitcoin as money. I see the Bitcoin protocol tied to gold and or silver as a winning combination. I not sure I want "money" to be purely virtual. One thing I am sure we agree on is this: get the government out of money and let the market decide.
@12:37 -- Calling Waco "a tiny group of freaks" seems to be defeating our own purpose. Like he said earlier in his talk, secession starts at the individual level and then moves out from there. Pointing to such a movement and labeling it "a group of freaks" is exactly what the Feds did.
I like most his ideas for personal secession( like being self-sufficient in food), but the part about television will be too hard for me. I do not watch the news( CNN is boring ), but comedic television is hard to resist. I also cannot miss Shark Week!
I suggest the implementation of The Right of Self Determination as mentioned in The Law of Nations as the correct method for this task. It is how the founders did it, formerly called the right of exile. Secession will not work, as there is no constitution and never was, sad as that may sound. What we have is a bank pretending to be a government pretending to offer government services folks. Nothing is what it seems. Promise.
I agree with the following, but the rest sounds sketchy. " I suggest the implementation of The Right of Self Determination as mentioned in The Law of Nations as the correct method for this task."
They must have heard his comment about Salt Lake City / Provo Utah... too many Californians have moved here in droves and they brought their voting patterns with them.
I suspect the militarization of the police and the millions of rounds of Ammo purchased by Homeland Security is not for your benefit it is your intention to change anything. I suspect many US Citizens are leaving the USA (officially and unofficially). They aren't going to "waste" their time trying to salvage the USS Titanic. The ship (Titanic) was dead as soon as it hit the iceberg and our system is just as dead. History will eventually pinpoint the iceberg moment. The Beauty of the US Constitution is that it establishes a VERY Limited Federal/Central government with anything not specifically listed (duties of the Federal branches) to fall under the sphere of influence of the State or the Individual, which gives the average citizen much more influence and control over what happens in their State or Town. In 1913, the beginning of the end...The Federal Income Tax was implemented the same year we were given the Federal Reserve. Wouldn't it be great if you were able to set up a 6% annuity for you and your future generations on Trillions of dollars in perpetuity? Andrew Jackson (7th US President) recognized that the banksters were evil - bankers have stated several times over history that they would destroy civilization rather than let go of their control over it. (They tried to assassinate Jackson as a result) People haven't changed over the years. We all have similar motivations and desires. Do NOT doubt the evil that runs the world today. Eventually you will have to make a choice...acquiesce or resist...but most people today are running, looking for a way to bide their time hoping this blows over...while these few who control everything consolidate their power Money is not evil, but as the Bible states "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." Judas Iscariot sold out Jesus Christ for 30 pieces of silver. Our politicians are just as bad or worse when they sold out America for their pound of flesh. Peace!
Why is it sad? Because it is not mainstream? It will never be in the current dumb society that we live now. People need to be intelligent to listen and apply such philosophy and we are overall far from it.
Or go Galt. There are many ways to minimize the one's cross-section to the trajectory of government. It would be great to have many more ways as more and more people embrace the principle of a highly limited government made legitimate only to the extent that its only function is to protect our many and broad individual rights.
He's totally wrong. Secession provides a mechanism for RECOURSE, without which the People are bound unconditionally to obey federal dictates; and it was by secession from the Confederated USA that the Constitution was established among the states-- and by secession it was to be ENFORCED, with the People of each state seceding from the Union at the last resort. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?
Wow, that is one powerful speech. Kudos! Best liberty speech I've heard in at least a year.
Tom Woods killed it.
Eric21ND Wow, I agree, Tom knocked it out of the park too! I'd suggest the two together gets my vote for the best hour of liberty speech in years.
***** That would be great!
You will be remembered as a legend for your courage to speak Truth Jeff.
Except it's NOT the truth. The truth is that each American state is a sovereign nation by original intent, while the Union among them was only one _agency_,, while the principal nationality belonged to the People of the individual state-- i.e. by law, each state is a separate sovereign nation, and its _People_ the ruling sovereigns; meanwhile the USA was just like the EU, and secession by the CSA was just like Brexit by the UK.
Get it?
I agree Tom, the only thing that looks odd in what you wrote, is that a nation is A People, not a country (geographical) for instance the Japanese people, the Swedish people, the Southern people, etc are all peoples. Where as Florida, California, Texas, New Hampshire, etc. are countries. In that a country is a body of land. For instance the CSA as you mentioned was a Confederacy comprised of 13 or 11 sovereign countries of a similar people (The Southern People).
Ahhhhh!!!!! I've been looking for this ever since I read the Article Tom woods referenced about Ron Paul.
Jeff Deist!!!! Please continue you mission!!!! you're changing the world one guy and gal at a time!!!!
I know I’m commenting on a six year old video. I’ve seen many presentations by Jeff Diest over the years and I’ve liked all of them, but this one stands out as my #1 favorite. It is both motivational and inspiring yet practical and hopeful by presenting specific, realistic, actionable ways we can all achieve greater freedom. Bravo, Jeff! 👍🏻👏🏻
Only makes sense to break away from injustice.
Swedish citizen here. Really getting sick of the marxism here. I hope I can manage to get a US work visa / green card when I finish university.
Simon Ulander what about Switzerland?
That would be better than Sweden but I'm not sure.
Taxes are lower. You are not forced to have your children in school. You can own guns more easier. The state is more decentralized. They are not part of EU. They haven't participated in any worse for a very long time.
Language might be the only problem or at least the biggest :P
Anders Hass I've only briefly visited Lucerne, but it was very nice. Would love to go back again someday.
I saw what is happening in Sweden, it's horrifying.
Breath of fresh air.
Brilliant, timely and thorough.
I absolutely loved this talk! Been feeling like this for years.
If enough States stop sending representatives and senators to Washington D.C. and also Federal tax money then the Federal government will fall.
Damn.
That's going straight into my audio library - very insightful, very powerful.
An excellent speech with a list of practical measures that we can all take to get the state out of our lives on a personal level. I enjoyed it very much.
An Excellent playlist of Mises Institute speeches, by some of the most intellectual minds in the modern "liberty movement". Nullification without the means and desire to back it up is just a half-baked solution that always ends us back into the same place that we started in.
excellent thought-provoking talk
Still, one of the most important truths that more people should hear and understand
Excellent breakdown of the elements supporting the natural origin of secession right out of the gate, will continue with the rest of the lecture- more comment forthcoming lol
GO Jeff, GO! MISES MISES MISES!
Nothing like fresh Mises Media. 100 seeds ***** misesmedia
To his further point- as Buckminster Fuller said “You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
Great talking and viva la resistance
Very well said, love it.
USA - NOT one nation, indivisable.
Great opener Jeff! Well done!
He made a lot of good points!!
My UA-cam channel "Divide and Diversify" play list is all about secession. My idea is to have a web site, like one of those dating sites where you can fill out your political profile and then find like minded others to start to built your own nation based on common ideology. We should be divided along ideological lines.
Wonderful!
In my opinion jury nullification should be a very important element in the secession movement along with barter and alternative mediums of exchange.
+Ed Waggoner Sr. (Papatch) Competitive currencies like bitcoin are a viable option for seceding from dollars or any other fiat currency. Barter or direct exchange is too inefficient for any society.
RonPaul Revered I too am a Bitcoin fan, but more for the protocol than the use of Bitcoin as money. I see the Bitcoin protocol tied to gold and or silver as a winning combination. I not sure I want "money" to be purely virtual. One thing I am sure we agree on is this: get the government out of money and let the market decide.
Awesome!
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4:14
7:00
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11:05
.17:32 philosophy of paternalism vs. absolute self-determinism
@12:37 -- Calling Waco "a tiny group of freaks" seems to be defeating our own purpose. Like he said earlier in his talk, secession starts at the individual level and then moves out from there. Pointing to such a movement and labeling it "a group of freaks" is exactly what the Feds did.
I mean to be fair ... They were freaks. Doesn't mean the feds were correct but they were fucked in the head
You got me! I know that's not much but you guys have me committed. But I need a plan
The South, fighting terrorists since 1861!
10:17 don’t water down message for approval from those hardwired to oppose us
20:00 steps to seceding at home
The rise and fall of empire. This is not going to end well.
don’t need to convince us, we need practical path to implement it.
We need to secede but we also need to join up with parts of Canada and save our oppressed Canuck brothers and sisters.
I like most his ideas for personal secession( like being self-sufficient in food), but the part about television will be too hard for me. I do not watch the news( CNN is boring ), but comedic television is hard to resist. I also cannot miss Shark Week!
CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC needs independence !
If there's succession Salt Lake City better be separate from Provo, I don't need that in my life Jeff.
👍👍
I suggest the implementation of The Right of Self Determination as mentioned in The Law of Nations as the correct method for this task. It is how the founders did it, formerly called the right of exile. Secession will not work, as there is no constitution and never was, sad as that may sound. What we have is a bank pretending to be a government pretending to offer government services folks. Nothing is what it seems. Promise.
I agree with the following, but the rest sounds sketchy. "
I suggest the implementation of The Right of Self Determination as mentioned in The Law of Nations as the correct method for this task."
at 15:30 that comment didn't age well
They must have heard his comment about Salt Lake City / Provo Utah... too many Californians have moved here in droves and they brought their voting patterns with them.
I am serious, serious! Give me some concrete ideas.
I suspect the militarization of the police and the millions of rounds of Ammo purchased by Homeland Security is not for your benefit it is your intention to change anything.
I suspect many US Citizens are leaving the USA (officially and unofficially). They aren't going to "waste" their time trying to salvage the USS Titanic. The ship (Titanic) was dead as soon as it hit the iceberg and our system is just as dead. History will eventually pinpoint the iceberg moment.
The Beauty of the US Constitution is that it establishes a VERY Limited Federal/Central government with anything not specifically listed (duties of the Federal branches) to fall under the sphere of influence of the State or the Individual, which gives the average citizen much more influence and control over what happens in their State or Town.
In 1913, the beginning of the end...The Federal Income Tax was implemented the same year we were given the Federal Reserve.
Wouldn't it be great if you were able to set up a 6% annuity for you and your future generations on Trillions of dollars in perpetuity?
Andrew Jackson (7th US President) recognized that the banksters were evil - bankers have stated several times over history that they would destroy civilization rather than let go of their control over it. (They tried to assassinate Jackson as a result)
People haven't changed over the years. We all have similar motivations and desires. Do NOT doubt the evil that runs the world today. Eventually you will have to make a choice...acquiesce or resist...but most people today are running, looking for a way to bide their time hoping this blows over...while these few who control everything consolidate their power
Money is not evil, but as the Bible states "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
Judas Iscariot sold out Jesus Christ for 30 pieces of silver. Our politicians are just as bad or worse when they sold out America for their pound of flesh.
Peace!
20:45 ditch FOX
13:53
come to Idaho in mass.....
He's a genius because it is hard to compress so much insanity in twenty minutes.
sad to realize that such philosophical lightweights walk among us.
Why is it sad? Because it is not mainstream? It will never be in the current dumb society that we live now. People need to be intelligent to listen and apply such philosophy and we are overall far from it.
Or go Galt. There are many ways to minimize the one's cross-section to the trajectory of government. It would be great to have many more ways as more and more people embrace the principle of a highly limited government made legitimate only to the extent that its only function is to protect our many and broad individual rights.
He's totally wrong. Secession provides a mechanism for RECOURSE, without which the People are bound unconditionally to obey federal dictates; and it was by secession from the Confederated USA that the Constitution was established among the states-- and by secession it was to be ENFORCED, with the People of each state seceding from the Union at the last resort.
HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?
What the fuck is up with that cheesy music at the end.
Speaker is far from reality. Sounds a little immature in approach.