@COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 But *Diversity Is Our Strength* is it not? Or maybe diversity is a strength for the political tyrants who sit atop the spoils of diversity! It's a strength for Justin Trudeau and Sadiq Khan, but it's a weakness for those over whom they rule.
@COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 Why we need to work towards peaceful separation. Let people who want to live in a state where racial equality is a opened ended never ending blank check on white taxpayers that is never going to produce an equal outcome, as it is now, have their own country where they can dump all kinds of financial resources on blacks to make them feel morally superior.
Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses. Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. HL Mencken
@samyoung2000paris Really rich for an ethno-nationalist to be calling other people weak, seeing as ethno-nationalism has always been packaged with rampant statism and even outright socialism, which is really just savage tribalism and parasitism. The state is for the weak willed and weak minded.
I read HHH's Democracy shortly after it was published (and purchased from the Mises Institute, I might add). It lives up to and exceeds the hype Jeff gives it here and I highly recommend it.
Although I enjoyed the talk, there's a few glaring flaws from my perspective that would perhaps add to the conversation. "Conspriacy Theories" is you will. Wars make big money for the self-styled owners of the planet. And food for the demons. Bankers finance both sides, at interest, with funds created out of nothing. The trucks bypassing the Maginot Line on the blitzkrieg to Paris had Ford Engines beneath the hood. The Lutwaffe couldn't have flown at altitude over London without the assistance of the Standard Oil Company and their lead anti-knock fuel additive which was sold through an intermediary until 1944 - 45. WWI was initiated by the killing of an "Arch Duke" in a power play between "royal" gangsters. There's a pattern to their malevolent actions, and the means that they maneuver circumstances to gain their desired result. Frequently, the Hegelian Dialectic is utilized Thesis, Anti-thesis Synthesis - or as described by a speaker of some renown - Problem Reaction Solution. And it seems as if the propensity to awaken to damn near anything if you have been mesmerized is the sole responsibility of the individual. At least considering how many people I have found unwilling to spend 10 minutes online and gain the knowledge for themselves that the masks are detrimental to their health physically and won't protect anyone from a viral infection. (Well, maybe Herpes Simplex 1) No-one seems willing to do the research on the implications of The Act of 1871 when the Constitution was amended illegally changing the word "of" to the word "for" and how we became chattel and collateral and that without permission of disclosure someone took it on themselves to exchange our innate and enumerated rights and our position as sovereigns for privileges and citizenship. Just one more thing. You cannot have a nation without defensible borders and our nation is in dire straits if the theft of the election is allowed to stand. I am betting that the globalist's brainwashed minions will be hitting the streets as soon as the announcement is made that everybody in the media and most of DC and the voting machines and the tabulating machines and the Democratic machines in big Democratic cities, and the poll workers (literate and illiterate) and the poll-worker trainers, and the drivers and the printing companies, and the mail thieves, and the dog that voted for Joe Biden with a paw-print were all just "glitches" and it sure is a good thing that the censorship on "Social Media" kept "fake news" to a minimum by manipulating the minds of its users and removing the accounts of anyone disagreeing with the set narrative due to "community guidelines." And maybe - If he's not simply acting the part. (I don't believe that whatsoever but refuse to be close-minded) President Trump can return to dismantling the corporation and draining the swamp and finishing the wall and begin the long task of restoring the Republic. Or... we'll be eating bugs and socially-distancing in tiny stack -n-pack living-pods being administered by an A.l. and Franz, the head of the World Economic Forum who isn't a Nazi at all.
@john cake I'd say it violates the NAP; uses the "law" to force an individual to do something they don't want to do. And that's regardless of the *reason* the baker doesn't want to do it; everyone should have complete rights to their own labor. I also don't understand why a buyer wouldn't choose to give their business to someone who actually wants it. It was truly a ridiculous case.
@john cake Of course it was. And like I said, everyone should have full rights to their own labor. We use our bodies to perform our labor = our bodies are our own property. I just included violating NAP on top of violating property rights, is all.
@@TheRKae - and yet so many people who thought Trump was too far Left voted for Johnson, and all at the risk of letting hillary win, with zero chance of Johnson winning - all for the sake of "my conscience". Freedom be damned......my conscience is all that matters. How many of them actually knew Johnson's position on all the major issues? No, he was just "anyone but Trump."
I have tons of book references including opinions, case laws, philosophies and government documents and reports that SHOW that the United States is NOT a country, is NOT, America, but is a creation of the Free, Sovereign and Independent States, of the confederacy under the Articles of confederation (no repealing clause for the AOC can be found which is a requirement to repeal any law), that the federal government is LIMITED not only in power but to LANDS in which they can make laws. They are suppose to do what they do for the defenCe of the “people at large” (not We the People of the United States), without actually intruding upon them or their rights. Those federal lands are the DEPENDENT states and CANNOT secede from the union or become an independent state or plant its own flag (thin blue line) and those federal states are mainly military reservations and the seat of government. People at large therefore derive a benefit without being intruded upon. We the people of the United States are oath takers, they give up natural rights for a bill of rights and all they do is for the defenCe and tranquility of the People at large. Notice the feds changed defenCe as shown in the constitution, old French for fortification, to defenSe latin for vengeance.
We DO NOT live in a Democracy! We live in a Republic.. You pledge allegiance to the Republic. The Constitution, the Bill if Rights, The Declaration of Independance, none of these mention Democracy or use that word! They do mention the Republic.. Why? Because I have Rights! God given Rights!..
If you have God-given rights, why then rely upon fictitious contracts to (supposedly) secure them? _You pledge allegiance to the Republic. The Constitution, the Bill if Rights, The Declaration of Independance._ A pledge to a piece of paper is invalid in law. To be valid, a pledge (i.e. contract) must be made between/among specific individuals. Have you entered such a contract vis-a-vis' the People of the United States, or any legitimate agent thereof?
@@seankennedy4284 I don't. I didn't write the Constitution, nor am I a Party to that contract. However, my "Public Servants" are! They take an "Oath of Office" declaring they will follow that Contract. However, sometimes they're forgetful, so as the People, sometimes we must remind them.
@@fidelpamplona7887 Awesome! However, by including yourself among "the People," a designation stipulated in said contract (Constitution), you are counting yourself as a party to that contract. Just sayin'.
@@seankennedy4284 no, We the People are the beneficiaries of the Trust. The various Government Officers act as Trustees and Executors. Unfortunately, sometimes people volunteer to be a Trustee, which allows a Judge or Prosecutor to become a Beneficiary. In fact most if the people in jail have made that mistake..
"If some sadist wanted to produce a process, that every four years created more bads than our current system, I don't know how you'd do it" That's why a lot of us are starting to think it that is possible and some sadists did exactly that. The Davos crowd calls it "the great reset"
One 'waste' of the democratic system that I don't often see discussed is the waste of human energy. There are a lot of people who would otherwise put in a lot of work to improve their local or wider communities but instead invest their energies into getting their party elected. For some, the motivation is power over others, but for many people, they perceive this as the best way to help people. That investment of time and money could instead go into private charitable hospitals and insurance schemes for the poor, the unfortunate or even the irresponsible - but in my country we end up shouting at each other over the need for government to give NHS workers a raise at a time when many have been forced out of work and seen their businesses and lives destroyed. The impulse to help others has often been captured by politics. The mother who may once have organised an event at school in order to raise funds for the poorest children, can now invest her energy in raising funds for a political candidate that promises to help the poorest children. Another problem is that when the state is so powerful, you almost have to care about politics. After all, we can't let the power of the state fall into the hands of the evil opposition party! I read a pamphlet written by the socialist Oscar Wilde where he condemned charity as a distraction for the middle classes. His point was that by doing charity they can feel they are solving a problem but they are being distracted from the required structural change to a socialist system. Of course, this was written at a time before many of the socialist-like systems we have since put in place across the world. I found this pamphlet when I was confronted with this attitude in an otherwise decent man who saw the necessity and existence of charity as evidence of a failure of government (we were discussing "food banks" in the UK). This is precisely backwards: government is a distraction from actually helping people through industry, community and charity. The diversion of private charity to political non-solutions is a great evil. I'm not well read, so I assume this has been written about at length.
I have long said that here in Canada the Prime Minister is only elected by a quarter of the population and that we don't need representative democracy just more people voting in our democracy !
I'm kinda new to this LP thing. I hear a lot of them talk on how democracy doesn't and can't work. But I've yet to hear a good alternative to it. I've heard Moldbugs approach but that's about it.
I'm a Democrat because I registered that way when I was young and have never bothered to change it. I live in New Mexico and when it was time for us to vote for a presidential candidate there was only one person on the ballot. Everyone else had dropped out. So, I really had no choice. I had no vote because the choice had already been made. That's not democracy.
I really think that if ppl would just stop participating, let 70 million ppl just not vote, it’ll put it in perspective. There’s no better way to prove to them their vote doesn’t matter then to have them stop doing it and see the same nonsense continue anyway.
I love how the people who hate Marxism the most give the most compelling historical arguments for it. Here Deist (how in any universe other than one controlled by a divine watchmaker with a sharp sense of humor, can the name of a foundingfatherquotingclassicalliberal be literally "deist"? (though I'm sure it rhymes with Geist, German for ghost, as in ghost of Christmas past, great ghost of Adam Smith, and ghost of pagan prophets and all manner of diaphanous doctrines)) gives a historical sweep from pure simple capitalism to market capitalism to stall-stuffed guilt ridden grotesque capitalism to cracking floor top heavy seismically susceptible capitalism to socially splintered succubistic psychosis. May the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Von Mises help us!
I have tons of book references including opinions, case laws, philosophies and government documents and reports that SHOW that the United States is NOT a country, is NOT, America, but is a creation of the Free, Sovereign and Independent States, of the confederacy under the Articles of confederation (no repealing clause for the AOC can be found which is a requirement to repeal any law), that the federal government is LIMITED not only in power but to LANDS in which they can make laws. They are suppose to do what they do for the defenCe of the “people at large” (not We the People of the United States), without actually intruding upon them or their rights. Those federal lands are the DEPENDENT states and CANNOT secede from the union or become an independent state or plant its own flag (thin blue line) and those federal states are mainly military reservations and the seat of government. People at large therefore derive a benefit without being intruded upon. We the people of the United States are oath takers, they give up natural rights for a bill of rights and all they do is for the defenCe and tranquility of the People at large. Notice the feds changed defenCe as shown in the constitution, old French for fortification, to defenSe latin for vengeance.
*_A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with a result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:_* . *_From Bondage to Spiritual Faith_* . *_From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage_* . *_From Courage to Liberty_* . *_From Liberty to Abundance_* . *_From Abundance to Selfishness_* . *_From Selfishness to Complacency_* . *_From Complacency to Apathy_* . *_From Apathy to Dependency_* . *_From Dependency back into Bondage_* ~ Alexander Fraser Tytler 18th century Historian and Jurist *_Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide._* ~ John Adams *_A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine._* ~ Thomas Jefferson *_The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not._* ~ Thomas Jefferson *_Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death._* ~ James Madison *_Democracy becomes a government of bullies tempered by editors._* ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson *_By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms -- elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest -- will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and it's highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit._* ~ Aldous Huxley *_The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting._* ~ Charles Bukowski *_Democracy: In which you say what you like and do what you're told._* ~ Dave Barry *_As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_What is any political campaign save a concerted effort to turn out a set of politicians who are admittedly bad and put in a set who are thought to be better. The former assumption, I believe is always sound; the latter is just as certainly false. For if experience teaches us anything at all it teaches us this: that a good politician, under democracy, is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_The highfalutin aims of democracy, whether real or imaginary, are always assumed to be identical with its achievements. This, of course, is sheer hallucination. Not one of those aims, not even the aim of giving every adult a vote, has been realized. It has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule, and both commonly succeed, and are right._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard._* ~ H.L. Mencken *_Democracy encourages the majority to decide things about which the majority is blissfully ignorant._* ~ John Simon *_Bureaucracy is not an obstacle to democracy but an inevitable complement to it._* ~ Joseph A. Schumpeter *_It is not true that democracy will always safeguard freedom of conscience better than autocracy. Witness the most famous of all trials. Pilate was, from the standpoint of the Jews, certainly the representative of autocracy. Yet he tried to protect freedom. And he yielded to a democracy._* ~ Joseph A. Schumpeter *_Democracy is the road to socialism._* ~ Karl Marx *_Democracy and Socialism are inseparable._* ~ Vladimir Ilich Lenin *_Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people._* ~ Oscar Wilde *_The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter._* ~ Winston Churchill *_In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme. & It is also in the interests of a tyrant to keep his people poor, so that they may not be able to afford the cost of protecting themselves by arms and be so occupied with their daily tasks that they have no time for rebellion._* ~ Aristotle
Divide and conquer. Divide et impera. The actual rulers want the slaves divided. They made us all go to mandatory indoctrination camps as children so we would learn two lessons well - Obedience to authority and Credulity in whatever people in authority tell us.
Havel's writings are brilliant and well worth reading. There is a paperback called "Living in Truth" that contains "Power of the Powerless" and other essential essays.
Germany as well as the US are under the boot of money in the hand of few. This produces an alienated government listening to a handful of people who are caught in prosperous careers. So where is the real choice then ?
Democracy is "Nice" Mob-Rule for those less fortunate or disenfranchised, or so it's sales-pitched as promised.......never ends up that way because of "Authoritarianism". Whether the boot is on the right foot or the left foot is not as important as the neck-crushing force with which it is invariably implemented & used.
Correct me if I am wrong but as I understand it the principle of the 'individual' is from Bharat and tens of thousands of years old. It is also likely the core of every other pre-religious society. Could we possibly win over more people by pointing out that the Austrian School is reinvigorating this notion of the individual, rather than it's creator. Could we possibly "enlighten" collectivists by pointing out that it is 'individualism' that unites us cross culturally and across time.
Collectivism isn't the trouble with our society, because Americans are culturally individualist. The issue is that Americans are very gullible to ideologies that make them think they are acting in their best interests, but are actually in the best interets of a select few very rich men in Washington.
Did Deist really say this? "In a libertarian society, there is no commons or public space. There are property lines, not borders. When it comes to real property and physical movement across such real property, there are owners, guests, licensees, business invitees and trespassers - not legal and illegal immigrants.” So, no more borders, citizenship, human rights or freedom to travel either?
No commons?"To allow the market mechanism to be the sole director of the fate of human beings and their natural environment ...would result in the demolition of society.” ~ Karl Polanyi, 1944
brilliant and quirky and self revealing.. good gosh veil lifting for us all.. but scapegoats are a plenty and distractions increase.. luckily no one reads my emails i send out.. LOL
Well said. Whats more amazing is that the info referencing google and Facebook being state institutions and funded by military (Amazon included) is everywhere and easy to find but to many still sleep
Instead of continually pointing out only the obvious bads, why not instead highlight the glorious benefits of the anarcho-capitalist alternative? In other words, replace the all-too-familiar dour and gray vision with a hopeful, vibrant, and inspiring one.
what is this guy advocating? Easy to critique our system; hard to come up with reasonable, and workable solutions. I'm not seeing a coherent thesis or argument here.
The speech is directed at people who are already very immersed in the subject matter, if you want to know more you will have to study Austrian economics and its philisophical ties to American liberalism as it was originally conceived in the 18th century. He is not critiquing the system just for the sake of being a critic, most of these people would rather spend their lives doing anything else but discussing politics, people at the Mises institute and "austro-libertarians" in general take the view that the 20th century was one gigantic lie and nothing but a slow descent into the madness of various forms of social engineering and central planning. We are on the precipice of a once in 300 year sovereign debt crisis that will upend the world and lead to a total failure of the public sector throughout the world, and it is very likely that the U.S. will be forced by sheer circumstance to return to federalism or possibly even secession and balkanization. The system isn't just "flawed", its collapse is a foregone conclusion.
It seems this guy missed the founding principle. We are not a democracy in the sense that the voters can vote for what they want. The Declaration points out the role of governments are to secure our unalienable rights. So "just" power is securing rights. When the democracy votes to violate our unalienable rights, government is not suppose to do it.That would be unjust power. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" It is written clearly. The system would work if people understood it. Learn how it works before throwing the baby out with the bath water.
World War I the first war about ideology or principle? He needs to study a little history... Leaving aside the ancient world we have the crusades and all the wars against the Turks to save Europe. We have the Thirty Years War fought between Protestants and Catholics... We have the American Revolution... the French Revolution... I mean, seriously, to say that principle was not a primary motive in any of these is ridiculous. In fact, the only wars WORTH fighting are wars of principle.
“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.“ Winston Churchill.
@COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 But *Diversity Is Our Strength* is it not? Or maybe diversity is a strength for the political tyrants who sit atop the spoils of diversity! It's a strength for Justin Trudeau and Sadiq Khan, but it's a weakness for those over whom they rule.
@COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 Why we need to work towards peaceful separation. Let people who want to live in a state where racial equality is a opened ended never ending blank check on white taxpayers that is never going to produce an equal outcome, as it is now, have their own country where they can dump all kinds of financial resources on blacks to make them feel morally superior.
Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.
Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
HL Mencken
democracy is equality's fool's gold
@whatajoke333 I agree 100%.
Well said.
And the pursuit of social and economic racial equality is destroying western civilization.
The longer that I live life, the more libertarian I become.
It’s not libertarians fault that Trump lost. I voted trump btw
@samyoung2000paris Really rich for an ethno-nationalist to be calling other people weak, seeing as ethno-nationalism has always been packaged with rampant statism and even outright socialism, which is really just savage tribalism and parasitism. The state is for the weak willed and weak minded.
Welcome to the slow path to anarchy!
@@coletrain5667 Crypto Anarchy.
@john cake and when it comes to not participating in establishment proxy wars we haven't had one like him in over 40 years.
We are not a Democracy. We are a Representative Republic.
We want neither.
I needed this talk so much. Thank you, Jeff.
Jeff has really matured as a speaker. So funny, and yet so captivating and provocative.
I read HHH's Democracy shortly after it was published (and purchased from the Mises Institute, I might add). It lives up to and exceeds the hype Jeff gives it here and I highly recommend it.
Although I enjoyed the talk, there's a few glaring flaws from my perspective that would perhaps add to the conversation. "Conspriacy Theories" is you will.
Wars make big money for the self-styled owners of the planet. And food for the demons. Bankers finance both sides, at interest, with funds created out of nothing. The trucks bypassing the Maginot Line on the blitzkrieg to Paris had Ford Engines beneath the hood. The Lutwaffe couldn't have flown at altitude over London without the assistance of the Standard Oil Company and their lead anti-knock fuel additive which was sold through an intermediary until 1944 - 45. WWI was initiated by the killing of an "Arch Duke" in a power play between "royal" gangsters.
There's a pattern to their malevolent actions, and the means that they maneuver circumstances to gain their desired result. Frequently, the Hegelian Dialectic is utilized Thesis, Anti-thesis Synthesis - or as described by a speaker of some renown - Problem Reaction Solution. And it seems as if the propensity to awaken to damn near anything if you have been mesmerized is the sole responsibility of the individual. At least considering how many people I have found unwilling to spend 10 minutes online and gain the knowledge for themselves that the masks are detrimental to their health physically and won't protect anyone from a viral infection. (Well, maybe Herpes Simplex 1)
No-one seems willing to do the research on the implications of The Act of 1871 when the Constitution was amended illegally changing the word "of" to the word "for" and how we became chattel and collateral and that without permission of disclosure someone took it on themselves to exchange our innate and enumerated rights and our position as sovereigns for privileges and citizenship.
Just one more thing. You cannot have a nation without defensible borders and our nation is in dire straits if the theft of the election is allowed to stand.
I am betting that the globalist's brainwashed minions will be hitting the streets as soon as the announcement is made that everybody in the media and most of DC and the voting machines and the tabulating machines and the Democratic machines in big Democratic cities, and the poll workers (literate and illiterate) and the poll-worker trainers, and the drivers and the printing companies, and the mail thieves, and the dog that voted for Joe Biden with a paw-print were all just "glitches" and it sure is a good thing that the censorship on "Social Media" kept "fake news" to a minimum by manipulating the minds of its users and removing the accounts of anyone disagreeing with the set narrative due to "community guidelines."
And maybe - If he's not simply acting the part. (I don't believe that whatsoever but refuse to be close-minded) President Trump can return to dismantling the corporation and draining the swamp and finishing the wall and begin the long task of restoring the Republic.
Or... we'll be eating bugs and socially-distancing in tiny stack -n-pack living-pods being administered by an A.l. and Franz, the head of the World Economic Forum who isn't a Nazi at all.
deist is the best. weekly podcast would be amazing
I was a registered Libertarian for many years. But in 2016 Gary Johnson came out in favor of mandatory vaccinations.
What the hell?! No thank you :(
He also thought that bakers should be forced by law to make gay wedding cakes. Gary Johnson is about as "libertarian" as King George III.
The LP has become totaIIy woketarded.
@john cake I'd say it violates the NAP; uses the "law" to force an individual to do something they don't want to do.
And that's regardless of the *reason* the baker doesn't want to do it; everyone should have complete rights to their own labor.
I also don't understand why a buyer wouldn't choose to give their business to someone who actually wants it.
It was truly a ridiculous case.
@john cake Of course it was. And like I said, everyone should have full rights to their own labor. We use our bodies to perform our labor = our bodies are our own property. I just included violating NAP on top of violating property rights, is all.
@@TheRKae - and yet so many people who thought Trump was too far Left voted for Johnson, and all at the risk of letting hillary win, with zero chance of Johnson winning - all for the sake of "my conscience". Freedom be damned......my conscience is all that matters. How many of them actually knew Johnson's position on all the major issues? No, he was just "anyone but Trump."
How much of my paid in federal income taxes are being weaponized against my interests and my values?
Has anyone actually argued both those points in a court of law?
@@bestfriendhank1424 we're meant to assume its all good?
Surely nobody would agree 100% so good question
Jeff is the man!
"Democracy" = "People Rule" (demos kratos)
But the 'People' are the 'Public', and the 'Public' is the State.
So Democracy is "State Rule".
Good to see you here TIK!
I have tons of book references including opinions, case laws, philosophies and government documents and reports that SHOW that the United States is NOT a country, is NOT, America, but is a creation of the Free, Sovereign and Independent States, of the confederacy under the Articles of confederation (no repealing clause for the AOC can be found which is a requirement to repeal any law), that the federal government is LIMITED not only in power but to LANDS in which they can make laws. They are suppose to do what they do for the defenCe of the “people at large” (not We the People of the United States), without actually intruding upon them or their rights. Those federal lands are the DEPENDENT states and CANNOT secede from the union or become an independent state or plant its own flag (thin blue line) and those federal states are mainly military reservations and the seat of government.
People at large therefore derive a benefit without being intruded upon. We the people of the United States are oath takers, they give up natural rights for a bill of rights and all they do is for the defenCe and tranquility of the People at large.
Notice the feds changed defenCe as shown in the constitution, old French for fortification, to defenSe latin for vengeance.
The people are not the state. That's a Hobbesian myth.
We DO NOT live in a Democracy! We live in a Republic.. You pledge allegiance to the Republic. The Constitution, the Bill if Rights, The Declaration of Independance, none of these mention Democracy or use that word! They do mention the Republic.. Why? Because I have Rights! God given Rights!..
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If you have God-given rights, why then rely upon fictitious contracts to (supposedly) secure them?
_You pledge allegiance to the Republic. The Constitution, the Bill if Rights, The Declaration of Independance._ A pledge to a piece of paper is invalid in law. To be valid, a pledge (i.e. contract) must be made between/among specific individuals. Have you entered such a contract vis-a-vis' the People of the United States, or any legitimate agent thereof?
@@seankennedy4284 I don't. I didn't write the Constitution, nor am I a Party to that contract. However, my "Public Servants" are! They take an "Oath of Office" declaring they will follow that Contract. However, sometimes they're forgetful, so as the People, sometimes we must remind them.
@@fidelpamplona7887 Awesome! However, by including yourself among "the People," a designation stipulated in said contract (Constitution), you are counting yourself as a party to that contract. Just sayin'.
@@seankennedy4284 no, We the People are the beneficiaries of the Trust. The various Government Officers act as Trustees and Executors. Unfortunately, sometimes people volunteer to be a Trustee, which allows a Judge or Prosecutor to become a Beneficiary. In fact most if the people in jail have made that mistake..
"If some sadist wanted to produce a process, that every four years created more bads than our current system, I don't know how you'd do it"
That's why a lot of us are starting to think it that is possible and some sadists did exactly that. The Davos crowd calls it "the great reset"
Democracy is two wolves and one lamb deciding what's for dinner.
Our system is one wolf telling a pack of sheep what's for dinner.
When Jeff Diest steps up to the plate, I’ve gotten used to a home run, and here he goes again!
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10:00 Here's the link to the essay www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/1979/01/the-power-of-the-powerless.pdf
Thank you
Thank you for posting. Great discussion and excellent thoughts.
A voice of reason
Jeff is a legend
Cogent and to the point. Great talk!
I like libertarianism but I feel like too many people use it as an excuse to ride the fence. That's not going to cut it any more.
One 'waste' of the democratic system that I don't often see discussed is the waste of human energy. There are a lot of people who would otherwise put in a lot of work to improve their local or wider communities but instead invest their energies into getting their party elected. For some, the motivation is power over others, but for many people, they perceive this as the best way to help people. That investment of time and money could instead go into private charitable hospitals and insurance schemes for the poor, the unfortunate or even the irresponsible - but in my country we end up shouting at each other over the need for government to give NHS workers a raise at a time when many have been forced out of work and seen their businesses and lives destroyed.
The impulse to help others has often been captured by politics. The mother who may once have organised an event at school in order to raise funds for the poorest children, can now invest her energy in raising funds for a political candidate that promises to help the poorest children.
Another problem is that when the state is so powerful, you almost have to care about politics. After all, we can't let the power of the state fall into the hands of the evil opposition party!
I read a pamphlet written by the socialist Oscar Wilde where he condemned charity as a distraction for the middle classes. His point was that by doing charity they can feel they are solving a problem but they are being distracted from the required structural change to a socialist system. Of course, this was written at a time before many of the socialist-like systems we have since put in place across the world. I found this pamphlet when I was confronted with this attitude in an otherwise decent man who saw the necessity and existence of charity as evidence of a failure of government (we were discussing "food banks" in the UK). This is precisely backwards: government is a distraction from actually helping people through industry, community and charity. The diversion of private charity to political non-solutions is a great evil.
I'm not well read, so I assume this has been written about at length.
Jeff Deist "the preacher"
Democracy: The God That Failed is a 2001 book by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, containing a series of thirteen essays on the subject of democracy.
I have long said that here in Canada the Prime Minister is only elected by a quarter of the population and that we don't need representative democracy just more people voting in our democracy !
I'm kinda new to this LP thing. I hear a lot of them talk on how democracy doesn't and can't work. But I've yet to hear a good alternative to it. I've heard Moldbugs approach but that's about it.
Shine your light , darkness is not very bright.
Great speech...
I'm a Democrat because I registered that way when I was young and have never bothered to change it. I live in New Mexico and when it was time for us to vote for a presidential candidate there was only one person on the ballot. Everyone else had dropped out. So, I really had no choice. I had no vote because the choice had already been made. That's not democracy.
Spot on lecture
I love this guy.
I really think that if ppl would just stop participating, let 70 million ppl just not vote, it’ll put it in perspective. There’s no better way to prove to them their vote doesn’t matter then to have them stop doing it and see the same nonsense continue anyway.
No libertarian or voluntarist should participate in these sham “elections”. You’re only legitimizing them.
It's the same end effect. Not voting isn't going to wake anyone up by itself. I think politics is accelerating fast enough ut may happen organically.
I love how the people who hate Marxism the most give the most compelling historical arguments for it. Here Deist (how in any universe other than one controlled by a divine watchmaker with a sharp sense of humor, can the name of a foundingfatherquotingclassicalliberal be literally "deist"? (though I'm sure it rhymes with Geist, German for ghost, as in ghost of Christmas past, great ghost of Adam Smith, and ghost of pagan prophets and all manner of diaphanous doctrines)) gives a historical sweep from pure simple capitalism to market capitalism to stall-stuffed guilt ridden grotesque capitalism to cracking floor top heavy seismically susceptible capitalism to socially splintered succubistic psychosis. May the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Von Mises help us!
I have tons of book references including opinions, case laws, philosophies and government documents and reports that SHOW that the United States is NOT a country, is NOT, America, but is a creation of the Free, Sovereign and Independent States, of the confederacy under the Articles of confederation (no repealing clause for the AOC can be found which is a requirement to repeal any law), that the federal government is LIMITED not only in power but to LANDS in which they can make laws. They are suppose to do what they do for the defenCe of the “people at large” (not We the People of the United States), without actually intruding upon them or their rights. Those federal lands are the DEPENDENT states and CANNOT secede from the union or become an independent state or plant its own flag (thin blue line) and those federal states are mainly military reservations and the seat of government.
People at large therefore derive a benefit without being intruded upon. We the people of the United States are oath takers, they give up natural rights for a bill of rights and all they do is for the defenCe and tranquility of the People at large.
Notice the feds changed defenCe as shown in the constitution, old French for fortification, to defenSe latin for vengeance.
*_A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with a result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:_*
. *_From Bondage to Spiritual Faith_*
. *_From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage_*
. *_From Courage to Liberty_*
. *_From Liberty to Abundance_*
. *_From Abundance to Selfishness_*
. *_From Selfishness to Complacency_*
. *_From Complacency to Apathy_*
. *_From Apathy to Dependency_*
. *_From Dependency back into Bondage_*
~ Alexander Fraser Tytler
18th century Historian and Jurist
*_Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide._*
~ John Adams
*_A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine._*
~ Thomas Jefferson
*_The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not._*
~ Thomas Jefferson
*_Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death._*
~ James Madison
*_Democracy becomes a government of bullies tempered by editors._*
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
*_By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms -- elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest -- will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and it's highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit._*
~ Aldous Huxley
*_The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting._*
~ Charles Bukowski
*_Democracy: In which you say what you like and do what you're told._*
~ Dave Barry
*_As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_What is any political campaign save a concerted effort to turn out a set of politicians who are admittedly bad and put in a set who are thought to be better. The former assumption, I believe is always sound; the latter is just as certainly false. For if experience teaches us anything at all it teaches us this: that a good politician, under democracy, is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_The highfalutin aims of democracy, whether real or imaginary, are always assumed to be identical with its achievements. This, of course, is sheer hallucination. Not one of those aims, not even the aim of giving every adult a vote, has been realized. It has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule, and both commonly succeed, and are right._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_Democracy encourages the majority to decide things about which the majority is blissfully ignorant._*
~ John Simon
*_Bureaucracy is not an obstacle to democracy but an inevitable complement to it._*
~ Joseph A. Schumpeter
*_It is not true that democracy will always safeguard freedom of conscience better than autocracy. Witness the most famous of all trials. Pilate was, from the standpoint of the Jews, certainly the representative of autocracy. Yet he tried to protect freedom. And he yielded to a democracy._*
~ Joseph A. Schumpeter
*_Democracy is the road to socialism._*
~ Karl Marx
*_Democracy and Socialism are inseparable._*
~ Vladimir Ilich Lenin
*_Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people._*
~ Oscar Wilde
*_The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter._*
~ Winston Churchill
*_In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme. & It is also in the interests of a tyrant to keep his people poor, so that they may not be able to afford the cost of protecting themselves by arms and be so occupied with their daily tasks that they have no time for rebellion._*
~ Aristotle
I'm seeing more bald people there then a Patrick Stewart convention
Divide and conquer. Divide et impera. The actual rulers want the slaves divided. They made us all go to mandatory indoctrination camps as children so we would learn two lessons well - Obedience to authority and Credulity in whatever people in authority tell us.
Havel's writings are brilliant and well worth reading. There is a paperback called "Living in Truth" that contains "Power of the Powerless" and other essential essays.
Oh, and a cracking lecture from Mr. Deist. Thank you sir!
I guess what Vaclav Havel was talking about was a system Czechs and balances ?
All brilliant, but especially @18:22 ;-))
Jeff Deist for President...of my local syndicate.
Germany as well as the US are under the boot of money in the hand of few. This produces an alienated government listening to a handful of people who are caught in prosperous careers.
So where is the real choice then ?
15:38 Based
Exactly. I wonder how many people know what nation means. I think Deist does. If he worded this less carefully he might have been booed off the stage
Deist/Woods 2024
Democracy is "Nice" Mob-Rule for those less fortunate or disenfranchised, or so it's sales-pitched as promised.......never ends up that way because of "Authoritarianism". Whether the boot is on the right foot or the left foot is not as important as the neck-crushing force with which it is invariably implemented & used.
Correct me if I am wrong but as I understand it the principle of the 'individual' is from Bharat and tens of thousands of years old. It is also likely the core of every other pre-religious society. Could we possibly win over more people by pointing out that the Austrian School is reinvigorating this notion of the individual, rather than it's creator. Could we possibly "enlighten" collectivists by pointing out that it is 'individualism' that unites us cross culturally and across time.
Collectivism isn't the trouble with our society, because Americans are culturally individualist. The issue is that Americans are very gullible to ideologies that make them think they are acting in their best interests, but are actually in the best interets of a select few very rich men in Washington.
Scandinavia is starting to look good...except I suck at languages. 🤪
They do accept it... when their side wins.
Anyone else think he sounds like heroine Bob from SLC punk?
Did Deist really say this?
"In a libertarian society, there is no commons or public space. There are property lines, not borders. When it comes to real property and physical movement across such real property, there are owners, guests, licensees, business invitees and trespassers - not legal and illegal immigrants.” So, no more borders, citizenship, human rights or freedom to travel either?
No commons?"To allow the market mechanism to be the sole director of the fate of human beings and their natural environment ...would result in the demolition of society.” ~ Karl Polanyi, 1944
brilliant and quirky and self revealing.. good gosh veil lifting for us all.. but scapegoats are a plenty and distractions increase.. luckily no one reads my emails i send out.. LOL
Mises LP takeover 2021
Oooooh I like the new haircut.
Is Democracy: The God That Failed available in Hardcover?
Yes, but it will set you back a large chunk of chage. amz.run/3vtW
We got it in xylophone
Well said. Whats more amazing is that the info referencing google and Facebook being state institutions and funded by military (Amazon included) is everywhere and easy to find but to many still sleep
But I thought we were a republic... 🤔
Yes, we have a democratic republic.
TRUMP 2020!
And you end up with 60 percent of 300,000,000 , ,,, over 180,000,000 voters or more, not on board with today's political landscape.....
Instead of continually pointing out only the obvious bads, why not instead highlight the glorious benefits of the anarcho-capitalist alternative? In other words, replace the all-too-familiar dour and gray vision with a hopeful, vibrant, and inspiring one.
A good presenter but he tends towards vagueness and flattery of the audience. But some of the ideas he puts forward are interesting and novel.
sounds like brainwashing----
Communism...coming to a town near you.
what is this guy advocating? Easy to critique our system; hard to come up with reasonable, and workable solutions. I'm not seeing a coherent thesis or argument here.
The speech is directed at people who are already very immersed in the subject matter, if you want to know more you will have to study Austrian economics and its philisophical ties to American liberalism as it was originally conceived in the 18th century. He is not critiquing the system just for the sake of being a critic, most of these people would rather spend their lives doing anything else but discussing politics, people at the Mises institute and "austro-libertarians" in general take the view that the 20th century was one gigantic lie and nothing but a slow descent into the madness of various forms of social engineering and central planning. We are on the precipice of a once in 300 year sovereign debt crisis that will upend the world and lead to a total failure of the public sector throughout the world, and it is very likely that the U.S. will be forced by sheer circumstance to return to federalism or possibly even secession and balkanization. The system isn't just "flawed", its collapse is a foregone conclusion.
@@coletrain5667 Thank goodness.
It seems this guy missed the founding principle.
We are not a democracy in the sense that the voters can vote for what they want. The Declaration points out the role of governments are to secure our unalienable rights. So "just" power is securing rights. When the democracy votes to violate our unalienable rights, government is not suppose to do it.That would be unjust power.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights,
Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
It is written clearly. The system would work if people understood it. Learn how it works before throwing the baby out with the bath water.
World War I the first war about ideology or principle? He needs to study a little history... Leaving aside the ancient world we have the crusades and all the wars against the Turks to save Europe. We have the Thirty Years War fought between Protestants and Catholics... We have the American Revolution... the French Revolution... I mean, seriously, to say that principle was not a primary motive in any of these is ridiculous. In fact, the only wars WORTH fighting are wars of principle.
it can't be verbalized? Learn more words.
Was thinking the same thing