Julebukk: Pagan Origins of the Christmas Goat
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The Yule goat is a Scandinavian and Northern European Yule and Christmas symbol and tradition. Its origin is from Germanic paganism and has existed in many variants during Scandinavian history.
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The Yule goat's origins go back to ancient Pagan festivals. The 'cornus' element in Capricorn's name refers to the cornucopia or 'horn of plenty' with its promise of a bountiful harvest to come. While its origins are unclear, a popular theory is that the celebration of the goat is connected to worship of the Norse god Thor, who rode the sky in a chariot drawn by two goats, Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr. The last sheaf of grain bundled in the harvest was credited with magical properties as the spirit of the harvest and saved for the Yule celebrations, called among other things Yule goat.
I was literally just researching goats 5 minutes ago. Algorithm reading my mind now.
In mid Sweden, we have a lot of pictures and stories from around late 1800s to early 1900s where people dressed up as the Yule goat and pranked people, talking about the goat throwing chopped wood through the door if the family had acted badly. They hanged the tree from the ceiling instead of putting it in a "foot", and there was no Santa Claus _(later with Santa, the goat brought coal instead to naughty kids and Santa had presents)._ Just a lot of food, with the most important, a whole, cooked pig with it's apple in it's mouth at the center of the table.
That’s interesting, we in Holland had exactly the same tradition, but in more recent times it was changed to a moor called “black pete” and some people schmink their faces black and are Saint Nicholas helpers who bring the presents from the Saint to the good children (in the olden days when people weren’t such wimps, the bad children got “de roe” a stick where Pete would smack the naughty children with, sometimes throwing them in the bag of Sinterklaas and bring them to Spain, where he is from). Fun to hear how all Germanic countries have this in common!
My father had a goat that was put on the Christmas tree every year. He never explained what that was about he may not have known however I am grateful that you have explained it now I understand why my father had a Christmas goat. I don't know where that goat is is now I kind of wish that I had it
I like how you educate these stories on your channel.
Plus goats are the coolest most fun animals when you know them! Thank you for your enjoyable videos. 🌲
I remember in childhood we had to go Julebukk on January 13, we dressed up as little devils or fantasy animals, knocked on doors and sang carols about hope and happiness.
That’s my dad’s birthday. Haha. What’s the association with Julebukk?
Just starting to explore Norse paganism. I have always identified with my Danish ancestry (ancestors came from what is now Westjutland - just found out that they came from what is described as a locality - it’s too small to qualify as a village!). Just bought my first Jullebukke - thanks for the video - it helped to place this tradition into context.
I am an American but my family is Scandinavian and I grew up in a Scandinavian area in Kansas. I grew up with everything Scandinavian and I have all my Yule goats. My friends think it's strange when They see my goats and Dala horses. I would love to have them eat a Yule dinner with my family, it would be shocking. We also celebrate the end of the wheat harvest at the end of July.
I am the same , but my family was from Worcester, Ma. I still do all of the Swedish Christmas traditions
I’m from Holland and when going out years ago I met a gorgeous girl at a local pub with the blondest hair (even by Dutch standards) and the brightest blue eyes. I remember she was from North-Dakota, and that didn’t surprise me at all knowing that a couple of northern states (also Minnesota) are very Scandinavian!
I wonder if there is a connection with the Capricorn star sign, as that is represented by a goat (sea goat specifically) and if there is a meaning behind why the goat is used as that sign around this time of year.
I was thinking the same thing. Capricorn is the sign of the sun in late December, after the winter solstice. Seems plausible.
I started with 3 goats, ended with 13 .. not an animal I'd want to eat, they're way too smart and have such great personalities!
I adore my goat! I will never eat goat either, mind you i have chickens and absolutely adore them too! However i still eat SOME chicken rarely. I much prefer beef in taste, recently had sheep and that was delicious too!!
If you look close enough to life, this goes for every single creature in existence. :)
@@jordyromanko-sc6igof course. You have to thank the gods, God, the universe, for the bounty/life that is provided at each meal. Not just a Christian idea.
My sister raises minis, show goats, too cute, except for the rams! Smelly boys
The Julbock is a Christmas favourite . I love how pagan it looks.
Look up Scythian Horse. You should see an image with a very distinct hooked headdress.
Exactly the video I needed! I sent one of these to my best friend in the states together with traditional Scandinavian "Jul" treats, so now I can link this video that explains what that tiny ornament is 👍
I watched this the day you released it and I went to the site straight away and ordered two of the julebukk. They just arrived and I LOVE them!! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I love your content, keep up the great work!!
FYI: Varg (Vikernes) has a new book that came out today. It's called "Reflections II". A follow up to "Reflections on European Mythology & Polytheism". In case any one is interested. I've enjoyed his other books.
Love your channel, Thor!
P.S. Just bought a Julebukk from your channel for my wife. Thanks for the suggestion.
I would like to thank you for sending me the julebukk Micheal. I put it right next to my other one, so now I have both teeth-Grinder and teeth- thin. I hope you have a wonderful vetrsólhvarf as well as Yule my friend. Thank you again bröder!
I finally got my Yule goat, and a Krampus ornament. Now if only I could find my Gnome in a Home😞
thank you on your research and knowledge on the past, which I for one should be brought back to the forefront of consciousness. BTW, have a great solstice when you get to it !! that goes to everyone :)
Hey dude, recent follower, appreciate all the content so far and look forward to more! Hyped for new a new video! Gives me ThuleanPerspective vibes and thats awesome!
In Norway some people still go "julebukk" during romjul. Children dress up as nisser, go from door to door and sing and get candy.
I have raised goats for a while and one time i had bought two baby goats the woman gave me the information about them along with the date they were born and it turned outs that they were born on the eve of yule 2020 the same yule that i had swore an oath to thor and both of these goats were twin brothers and they were both pure white im very blessed to still own them an it shattered and disbelief for my native faith that i had.
We have the straw goats and other straw ornaments! The best ones to unpack every year, like presents!
Lovely video thank you so much for explaining these traditions, I am recently exploring my pagan roots as well. Goats are a very important spirit animal for this reason. 💖🕊️☮️
In Finland it has parallel meaning as Santa is Joulupukki in Finnish translating as Yule buck in English.
Kuksi kaksi
Great video! Really loved the info , excited for the next one you mentioned❤
Your videos are so positive & interesting, thanks 🌷
My family is Norwegian-American and emigrated from Norway in the 1860's. I inherited my Julebukk from my great-grandmother. We never stopped practicing the mix of Christianity and paganism that we brought over with us. Even though it is more often practiced in Sweden, I would love to see a discussion of the pagan origins of Santa Lucia and the darker origins of the Tomte or Nisse.
Always greatful for a superb channel 🙌
I hadn't watch your channel in quite a while, it's amazing how you've improved, I'm loving the new videos so incredibly much! also, the store is great, would have loved to get some of these Julebukk, I hope next year will bring real spending money for me :)
The Julebock is also my favorite.
I also love the background music. Where is it from?
Ty for continuing your amazing videos my friend…. I hope life is treating you very well 😎 ✌️ ❤️
My two male pygmy goats are badasses, have to order some of those tree decorations, very cool man
I also have a young buck!
Just got 2 of them many thanks
Very interesting and informative! 😮 awesome video!
Thanks for the video ⚔️
Glædelig jul fra Danmark!
Like them . Going to have to get some .
"What do we have?" "A neck! A neck"
Cornish ceremony over last sheaf of wheat harvested.
Goat is delicious because they're browsers they taste a lot like venison
I'm planning to make my own julboks
Thanks, it give so good meaning to get words on the julebuk but is to small 😂😂 them you have. here in denmark to with others figurere"fader jul" father of yule and "nisse" elf, more like helpers/spirits in farms in the old time🙏🙏 thanks and waiting for the next video👏👍 always a pleasure to watch
Wheat and oat straw were seen as being symbols of abundance and prosperity b/c grain was the most hardy and abundant crop. It was also feed and bedding for livestock during the winter months, mattress stuffing for humans, and it would be spread around the base of winter crops to keep the soil insulated (like how people use dried leaves or mulch in their gardens now). 🥰
Hailsa! Gonna make some for Yule this year. Glad Yule!
I was born on Krampus, keep it going Thor, tak for the great video🎉
I read that the star constellation Gemini used to be twin goats? Maybe there's something there to discover.
I remember my family having one, but I don’t remember what happened to it. lol!
Can you imagine the conversation between Thor and Odin?
Odin: “You’re going to take the gifts to the children.”
Thor: “Why is it my job?”
Odin: “Maybe you shouldn’t have befriended the goats who deliver the gifts.”
Thor: “Well, now I’m gonna eat them.”
Odin: “Then you’ll have to resurrect them so they can deliver the gifts. So just suck it up, kiddo, and deliver the damn gifts!”
Thor: *stomps off, mumbling to himself*
Hands Loki a Krampus suit
I have a julbuk next to my Christmas tree.
Where do you buy these? Lovely for Winter Solstice Xmas. 😊
Our Norwegian Nisse and the Swedish Tomte, have you made up any thougts about they could be aspekts or remains of the old tuftekall or haugbonde, the first setteler on the farm? In respect beer would be set by Haugen, and it could bring bad luck not to. Makes my thoughts go to fjøsnissen and bringing porridge to him at Jul.
The Theory I Predominantly Believe Is That Its Capricorn and Aries pulling the heavens across the sky.
What is the music in the background?
So what's with the Dalarna horse, then?
Isn’t red a color associated with Thor?
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Hie ! God Jul !!!
I would say that the goat is both tanngnjost and tanngrisner but also heidrunn the goat on the rooftop of valhöll whos udders the mead of the gods and einherjar comes from
Aren't most holidays originally pagan, at least in part?
Before the Christmas tree was called a Christmas tree, what was it called? Same question for the wreath?
My mother was half swedish back ground
an important correction: dolmens and menhirs are not celtic. In fact, they are much older, most of them dating back to the megalithic culture of neolithic Europe. Some later stone circles, such as Stonehenge, have been built by Indo-European people, but still in times long before we can speak about any 'celtic' cultures.
Have you ever seen the recreation of Scythian horses with the head dresses?
0:13 every time I see this image with the chariot pulled by goats it makes me think of the Scythian Horses with the hooked head dresses.
Also, I call Christmas “Arminius Day.”
Those Norwegian Spruce from Teutoberg are now the tree of choice for community Christmas trees.
And then when you know he put the three legionary Aquilas he captured at the tops of the three tallest Norwegian Spruce in the forest…
Oh, and even the words and symbol of the Christmas Tree itself is actually SUPER Esoteric and related to the Triple Crown, which is mastery of body, mind and spirit. Arminius accomplished a literal triple crown by destroying 3 full legions and seizing their Aquilas. There’s a hand symbol for the five pointed star which is also a symbol of the triple crown.
You make a C with your index and thumb and then the middle ring and pinky are the number 3. So C3 on both hands, then put them together and you have a five pointed star.
Love your work, have a wonderful Yule, my brother.
6:58 holy crap that’s on the nose. Definitely look up a Scythian Horse. Google search will give you the image with the headdress as the first result.
The Gothic Migrations to the west actually begin with a migration south from Scandinavia right into the heartland of Scythia. You don’t let that many people move to your capital without them being YOUR people, you know what I mean?
And then there’s Rok Runestone in Ostergotland which specifically mentions Theodoric the Great, Rex Gotho.
Wulfilla’s Gothic Bible features Futhark letters, I know offhand that the symbol for the number 900 is the Futhark letter T.
Actually, I am of Slavic origins, and I have to say this is a first time I've heared about "Devac". Are you sure you have double checked the sources?
Got a feeling Teeth Grinder goat is the one with the wonkey leg. Poor thing.
We should start saying European tradition, would get more 'christians' to embrace traditions of their people.
I have 3 out in the yard. With a Norwegian flag in one and 🇫🇮 and 🇸🇪 and have about 12 nisse or tomte, hanging in the tree. Im going to add a Mjölnir around the neck of one goat now, and it says Jól yule in little flags with nissie's on them im the only American in my neighborhood that has Scandinavian decorations, people are probably wtf is that lol.
Hott Damn !! Woo
Odin was father christmas. The House-God - Hus-tomten was actually more accepted and a replacer for the Julbock due to the church. Christianity made every pagan symbol that could not be integrated into christian tradition the symbols of satan. The snake of wisdom, The wise-old lady became satans handymen, Her symbol the pentagram became the symbol of Satan, Thors goats, the Julbock became the face of Satan, Frejas black cats became the cat of the witch and bad luck. Even Jultomten got ridiculed. In Sweden we say "Tomtar på loftet" about someone we deem crazy. But Lucia and Jultomten could be associated with Lucia in Italy, the christian saint and S:t Nicolaus.
And, in the modern age, the Goat has been heralded as, possibly, being the Greatest Of All Time!
Vanangians of Kievan Rus
I also believe the goats are appetite and aggression.
I fucking love the Yule goat. I prefer it to Santa. I would much rather receive my Christmas presents from a goat.
I have a big one standing in my kitchen. 😎
We are Scandinavian also but never did the goat, we got a goat for Christmas once so kinda we did? 😂
I'm just starting my quest into paganism but I'm confused by the reference in many videos to Christmas. I thought Yule predated Christmas and that the celebration of true Christmas was just that..Christ mas or mass. Could you speak to this, please?
How do you Chritianise something Pagan,pagan is Pagan
I'm so stupid. I always thought it was Heidrun and that chrismas was about welcoming dead relatives from the other side. I never thought of christmas as a thing to bring the dead back to life. Thats a new one. Still today in Sweden even after 100 years of socialism christmas is about family and the one day everyone tries to get home ro be with their relatives. But for the old norse it was about raising the dead?
Yeah. I see now how everything thought to be a mirror of the realm of the dead now is considered to be about? Nissen/tomten was thought to go between the worlds but now it's something else. Wtf?
Is this some part of the "Viking were Muslims, trans, gay" university/museum thing?
Whoa buddy, isnt something from Sweden a no go? Norway all the way! Lol jk
the earth ís flat, not a spinning ball. there is no "space"
The engravings over the top of the text and your own face while you talk are annoying.
Thor was originally a black man!
It's true! I saw the same netflex documentary.