Viking & Germanic DNA in Different Countries: History vs DNA
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
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Haplogroup I & Haplogroup I1 % in the various European countries
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00:00- Intro
03:30- Scandinavia
04:54- Iceland
05:40- Baltic
07:00- Germany
07:36- Britain
08:55- France
11:00- Italy
13:00- East
Haplogroup I is a human mitochondrial DNA haplogroup. It is believed to have originated about 21,000 years ago, during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) period in West Asia. Haplogroup I is found at moderate to low frequencies in East Africa, Europe, West Asia and South Asia. Haplogroup I-M253, also known as I1, is a Y chromosome haplogroup. I-M253 is found at its highest density in Northern Europe and other countries that experienced extensive migration from Northern Europe, either in the Migration Period, the Viking Age, or modern times. It is found in all places invaded by the Norse.During the modern era, significant I-M253 populations have also taken root in immigrant nations and former European colonies such as the United States, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
Sicily was conquered by the Normans in 999 AD which would explain the data from there
They actually conquered all of Southern Italy and created the Kingdom of Naple, they were sailing for Rome but got lost
Wrong, it was the Lombards who took over Italy after the fall of the Roman empire, the Norman's showed up later. Fun fact, first time the mohamedians tried to take Medina, the Lombard stomped their ass, and were going to chase them to their homeland and wipe them off the earth, but it was the Norman's who talked them out of it. Soon as the Lombard got tired of running things and allowed Charlemagne to take over, that's when Medina fell.
If I'm not mistaken, didn't the vandals have sicily for little while?
Was it the Vandals who created the modern Sardinian?
The vandals for sure!!!
You may not like it but for me it’s fascinating. So - thanks!
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Apparently DNA testing for recreational purposes is not legal in France, only for medical, scientific or judicial purposes, so this could effect the score of Germanic/Viking haplogroups.
Not legal, but come on, everyone can do one. I have. I have both Germanic (predominant, closest matches being Cherusci) and Celtic genes. The thing about Genetix tests is you realize that ethnicity is bogus. We are Europeans first and foremost. Tracing ancestry has brought me all other Europe, from the Balkans to Iceland. Nationalities are just artificial frontiers and language, but your genes come from everywhere.
@@jp16k92 well said
@@jp16k92yes I agree it’s possible to get test done (I live in France but I could get test kit sent to family in uK) but the test suppliers are banned from selling kits to French residents. All I’m saying is that because of the fact that the French test much less than every other EU country, the ethnicity percentages could be skewed.
@@Angryhippo9117 that, indeed, is a possibility. To the best of my knowledge, the only company that doesn’t sell kits in France is Ancestry. The others do via their websites. However, you’re pointing a very important point that, I believe, isn’t necessarily reserved to France, that is the sample size. It is also the main issue with ancient ancestry tests. A sampling of population isn’t necessarily representative of the population as a whole. I guess we have to be content with what's available at the moment. It’s already a huge leap forward in determining our ancestry, provided you take it with a grain of salt! 🤫
@@jp16k92 of course our genes come from everywhere if we go back far enough. But there is a difference between having African ancestors 10,000 years ago and African ancestors 100 years ago.
Thanks for sharing the video I hope it helps people in the future with good information
As always brother great insightful content on your channel. Love your stuff keep it up. Much love to our European Kinfolk 🇺🇲❤️🇳🇴🇪🇺
I loved this ❤ super interesting. Thanks 😊
I'm sorry but I have done two dna tests now and have found them utterly fascinating.
I had done my genealogy for 30 years and all my known ancestry was in the UK . Until I did a dna test and discovered I had a strand of Finnish and loads of Finnish dna matches. It's been a joy to research. 🙂
i just recently took a dna test and found in my recent ancestry they say 2.5%Finnish which is a puzzler roughly at the 3xgreat grandparent level (roughly 1785 to about 1825 in my family history). the only Finn i am aware of is or was b ca 1625-35 and part of the New Sweden colony.
I tested my parents (well, why not? I was interested in my father's maternal lineage) and despite being 100% German for recent generations, the company tagged my father as close to half from the British Isles. After further thought and research, I think it ties in with the Germanic migration to the British Isles, since that 'further research' indicated that 1200 years ago there's a strong genetic link to Denmark and Southern Sweden, so yes, those Norsemen really got around and their descendants didn't stay in one place either.
There were a couple other interesting things that are really lost in the mists of time, but interesting that a genetic signature still shows up thousands of years later.
@@deadcatbounce3124 In Yorkshire specifically the York area is where all the viking ancestors are, they trace their ancestors to Denmark and Southern Sweden. The rest of the vikings where no doubt wiped out in the Harrying of the North. The Angles and Saxon spread didnt have much Scandinavian at all, but I think the Fimbulwinter/Ragnarok 536AD brought a lot more people down from up north into Denmark and so on.
Why you sorry
Love the genetic/ethnic content 🔥
that's a fascinating video.. I'm learning so much about haplogroups.
I love Germanic people, one of my best friends is a Dane
Can you do a video on the Visigoths and Ostrogoths. Especially theodoric the 1st vs the huns
I think you might be mixing up what a haplogroup is. It only passes through the male line, so irish women taken to iceland would not make a differance.
(Correction: Y-DNA paternal haplogroups)
Yeah I see this mistake often
Yes plus Haplo I is commonly accepted as being pre indo European so was only transported with the Germanic intermix cheers. Haplo I from Sherwood England
Everything the romans teach about reproduction is deliberately wrong!! Different species males will with interbreeding destroy the females genes mostly at male children, only in girls there is very little left of the victim depending on the type of interbreeding °° So when the other hominids and their hybrids take our women it will exterminate us ://
I have the I1 haplogroup, which surprised me. ❤
@@CheCoker-my9gu which country?
I would like to say haplogroups are less than 1% of your dna but they’re still very useful depending on the topic & of course your opinion.
Haplogroups are useful for tracing the migrations of people.
Orleans is close to where the battle of the Catelaunian fields happened - the battle the turned Atilla back from Western Europe. The armies that fought there included Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Burgundians and others. Some of them maybe stuck around after
Somewhere i read , that into 19th century some newborn babies had the socalled ,mongolisn spot' on their back, also No Wonder.
Well, there's that possibility but also even very briefencounters, often violent, could have left their mark. "Le repos du guerrier" and all that.
The problem I have with haplogroups is that your Y or mt is such a tiny fragment of your overall lineage.
Obviously it may tell you something, but that something can be very misleading if you interpret it as representing all your blood (because it doesn’t).
Yeah. Haplogroups can survive just through random fluctuations in survival and mating where the overall percentage of related DNA to the “original” source population of the haplogroup is tiny. Y-Haplogroups of modern populations are useful, but really need to be considered alongside mt and somatic DNA samples , as well as ancient and medieval samples to build a better picture. Looking simply at Y-haplogroups of modern populations led to a lot of conclusions that turned out to be wrong once more kinds of sampling became possible.
So your problem isn't with haplogroups. Your problem is with how some extremists (very few) interpret it falsely and take it too far.
Haplogroups can tell us a lot, and help us a lot in genealogy and understanding population movements.
There are tons of haplogroup projects on FamilyTreeDNA for example that do wonders. And my own haplogroup helped shed a light on where my Forest Finn ancestors came from.
The more people that get tested, the more we know. Of course you can't take anything at face value. But that's just basic scientific understanding.
That whole identity bs with haplogroups is just a tiny fraction of uninformed people that don't know anything about genetics.
Well said, we're all 100% human
@@PohjanKarhu It’s not just the racial identity extremists though (though that does exist as a percentage of the people who are into Y-Haplogroup studies in particular). But totally down the centre or probably overall liberal scientists made a lot of errors when making deductions about the past based on just Y-Haplogroup data from modern populations that were revealed to be wrong once more kinds of data became available. So overall, taking just Y-Haplogroup data from modern populations to draw conclusions about medieval or ancient population structure, as is done in this video, is not a very sound methodology. Love Thor’s videos, but this needs more different kinds of data incorporated to sure up the conclusions.
Additionally, it really doesn't tell you a lot about any particular cultural observations, likes social status, structure, religious beliefs, etc. Bc it cannot tell you that, but people, both ethnic identitarians and various academics make an astonishing amount of assumptions about the lives and beliefs of this group or that group without much supporting evidence.
❤ Thank you!
Personally, I was shocked at how similar the three different DNA tests I did, were. And how accurate it was to the history of my surnames. I knew I was almost entirely Irish and Scottish, but didn't understand why I was 29%/31%/27% Norwegian. But when I studied all my family surnames it made sense. All my mothers surnames were Scottish clans with Norwegian viking progenitors(MacIver/Morrison/MacLeod/MacLean)and the majority of my fathers surnames are Irish forms of Norse names(MacGofraid/MacCosker/Maguire/Lawson)
so western isles with Donald of the Isles. i have McCuistons, Wylies who apparently lived between the McGregors and McFarlands, Smiths from the Shetlands, Waddells from Ireland either with Bishop Leslie and the protestant ascendancy or there was a Waddell prisoner I think from the Battle of Dunbar who was shipwrecked on northern Ireland and of course stayed.also Crozier which apparently is Gaelic but elusive.
@@rayp-w5930 The McQuistons were started by a Viking and the MacDonalds are probably the largest clan to come from the Norse. They are also members of the Uí Ímair Dynasty along with my MacGofraids, MacLeods, Morrisons, and possibly MacIver.
Finns don't have "more Finno-Ugric dna than anything else". The Siberian genetic component found in Finns averages roughly 8% and larger contributions exist from the Proto-Balts, Proto-Germanics and the old non-Indo-European natives of the northeastern Baltic region.
Also the haplogroup I1 found in Finland has been identified as a unique branch that separated from the rest around 3000 years ago and it along with its subclades are almost exclusively found among Finns (and Sami). It's likely the I1 in Finland is largely not connected to mixing with Germanic speakers and instead they're remnants of the non-Indo-European people who were in the region. These people then mixed and were assimilated with the incoming Uralic speakers carrying the N1 haplogroup. Only 10% or 15% of the I1 in Finland is more closely linked with modern Scandinavians and that portion of I1 in Finland is connected to the Swedish settlement in Finland started during the Middle Ages. And while the Swedish connected I1 is found in the areas Swedes were settled (the western coastal areas), the Finnish I1 is found all around the country.
The main thing that makes Finns unique genetically is not the Siberian genes or lack of "European" ones, it's because ancestral Finns experienced a significant population bottleneck around 4000 years ago leading to the lack of genetic diversity.
Finns are in some ways even the most european, when it comes to ancient european, hunter gatherer european. With balts and scandinavians close behind and being generally similar
Thank you!!!! Finally someone with some common sense.
Finns are 1/4 saami, that's where most of their east asian autosomal comes from.
@@TheM41a Doubt it is most. Estonians average 5% and Volga Finnic groups 11%. Assimilation of Sami increased the Finnish average, but the majority of the Siberian admixture was still from the proto-Finns themselves.
Finngols still have the most Mongoloid as much as Russians considering Other Europeans won't have more than 2-3%
It’s odd you completely left out haplogroups R and N . R would dominate from the Black Sea all the way west to Ireland, increasing in westward pattern while haplogroup N has become quiet huge in modern times, increasing in a north easterly direction from the Baltic Sea
He’s haplogroup I and seems to worship it despite it being a small minority of Germanic dna
@@Wilhelmofdeseret Haplogroup L is an african haplogroup. You might've meant haplogroup I.
@@larsliamvilhelm my bad yea that’s what I meant
@Wilhelmofdeseret he never said he belonged to haplogroup I and has mentioned in multiple videos that he doesn't like DNA tests.
And to claim that haplogroup I is a "minor" Germanic haplogroup is a GROSS understatement. It is THE Germanic haplogroup. R1b & R1a are found amongst Celts and Slavs. I1 is THE Germanic marker.
I'm unsure why haplogroup N would even be mentioned. It's finno-ugric.
@@Wilhelmofdeserethe even says he doesn't give a shit about DNA tests and just does this video for his yt audience lol
R1b-U106 is the most common West Germanic YDNA signature. Less common in the Scandinavian peninsula - apart from SW Norway where is at the same levels as Britain and the western coast of Europe. One documentary claimed that it came to Norway along with R1-L21 from Britain due to the Viking's importation of slaves from Britain. . The R1a haplogroup is common in Scandinavia and in eastern Europe. It was also brought into the British Isles by the Vikings. According to its distribution map it is more common in western and northern Scotland than I1.
That spot in the south of France, as well as in Spain could be the Visigoths
Most likely is, as it seems to be around Toulouse, their capital. And it certainly was not the Franks, who barely settled below the Loire river. And of course the Alsace would be Allemanic as well
@@sebe2255 Exactly, and in the Iberian peninsula there are also this couple spots with 5%, in Galicia could be the Suebi, and in the coastal region of Catalonia the Visigoths again.. The 1% of the rest can be the mixture between Suebi, Goths, Vandals and whatnot...
The Basque people, one the earliest peoples, some were seafaring and trading way before Columbus, and according to one vid, some settled on the west coast of
Britain, in Scotland, Ireland, and Wales... and later joined with Vikings.
Thanks, always appreciate your videos.
Oh, also they have common words with the Finnish language.
What about R-L48.?? I've seen that listed as Anglo-saxon before
I’m confused. Haplogroup l seems not really widespread and dominant. NW Europe is more R haplogroup in my understanding, check out all population and cross check them with the I haplogroup, all low percentages.
R is more difficult to track. He would have to break them off into branches and then splinters.
R1b & R1a really got around. 😆
I'm 64. All I have to do is look at my Swedish grandfather's last drivers license picture when he was 77 and I can see I'm from him. As with my father and my son and daughter.
and thats the ONLY way to really trace your ancestry back, look at your family memebers as far back as its recorded, DNA tests online are just a scam.
Y-DNA is just passed down from father to son, it’s not mean DNA. However, it shows the Germanic male lineage I1, a haplogroup that originated in Scandinavia and north Germany.
R1b, R1a and a Scandinavian subclade of N1c1 can also be carried by a fully genetically Germanic person!
I1 isnt the only germanic lineage, the early anglo-saxons were only about 1/3 I1 with the rest being R1b-U106 or R1b-P312 and subclades of I2a
also haplogroups are only a single chromosome out of 46, so you have to look autosomal "ancestry"
Yes because haplo I is actually pre indo European so was just being transferred through intermix later. Cheers from haplo I1 sherwood England
@@antonyreyn i1 has been found in bell beakers and single grave people its definitely indo-european, just had massive founders effect going into Scandinavia
@@henry1727 thanks that's interesting but check out the coment on here from Finland in which they point out the highest province with I1 has only 0.38 percent Swedish speakers. They say the I1 was pre IE and that echoes what I have heard. Cheers
@@antonyreyn thats a myth that has been dispelled, the spread of i1 coincides with R1b and R1a its indo european. the natives were I2a NOT i1
@@henry1727 hi the comment from Finland was by Krisu Ola if u want to see it, how come they say I1 and are not IEuro but Fino ugrian? Cheers
I find it all fascinating, so thanks. My dna shows I have 26% Scandinavian 😂 so on St. Patrick's day I'll drink to the mixture of it all ❤
I'm a finn from the western Finland, from the Southern Ostrobothnia, yet having over 95% germanic and scandinavian genes on me from the both parental sides, respectively. 😊
I reckon the amount of Viking blood pumping through Palermo might just be because Harald Hardrada, a varangian at the time, despite attacking the island on behalf of the Byzantine seems to have been a mostly welcome conqueror and that might have borne some good fruit down there.
That would be exciting to see actually
This goes back more to the Normans.
@@RackerPaS They ruled for a couple hundred years.
@@RackerPaS Harald (and other Varangians) was in Sicily at the very time the Normans were starting to get established, and fought with them against Saracens in Sicily and later - unsuccessfully - against them when they revolted against the Byzantines - indeed Harald fought alongside and against Robert de Guiscard's elder half-brother William Iron Arm. However at that time most of the fighting was in the east of SIcily around Syracuse; Palermo was still firmly in Saracen hands. That only changed after Robert's conquests, by which time Harald was long back in Norway and the expeditionary part of the Varangian guard had been stuck in the very heel of Italy near Otranto for years.
@@dionb5276 The Varangian Guard was just a military unit and the personal protection force of the Byzantine rulers. Of course, this was also used in Sicily and Harald, later King of Norway, led it. But we're not talking about military operations here, but rather about a very clearly present Nordic DNA in Sicily. A long-standing kingdom is more likely. As we know, these were the French Normans. Only a constant transmission from as many carriers as possible leaves such a DNA trace and not a few warriors who were there for a few weeks.
@@cathjj840 Correct.
Western Norway has a different DNA due to migration from the North down the coast, from the Stone Age. Among others, we have haplogroup Q ancestors from Siberia, and so we are distant cousins to the Native Americans. That is why we share some shamanic traditions.
Well said my friend, we really do imagine if America was founded under the Gods ? 🤷🏾♂️ definitely would be something interesting
Haplogroup Q is from the Huns. Attila's army is predominantly Ostrogoths and Scythians, Huns were the organizers and leaders of the Hunno-Gothic Confederate.
Attila's father is a Bulgar but his mother is a Scythian, his wife is from Gothic origin. After his death, his two elder sons and daughter remained in the West with their adherents, the youngest Ernik returned to his grandmothers lands, in what is now Ukraine, and founded Magna Bulgaria.
.Attila is not the name of that guy, it's a nick and means 'daddy' (see 'vati' Germ, 'tati' Bulg.) from 'Atta' old Gothic, 'Ata ' Turkic = father. His real name is Avitohol.
The original Bulgars (not to be identified with modern Bulgarians) are not Hazars or other Turkic tribe. They are an ancient Korean tribe mixed with Buryats and Tocharians. Bulgars were the leaders and organizers of Xiong-nu and that's why when the Chinese came first in the conflict with the Confederate, kicked them
out of Asia.
Now on my finger there's a gold ring that I've found in our garden. On the ring there are two parallel lines crossed with other two parallels. In old Gothic symbolism the sign means' To help you Earth and water, Sky and fire'. Check it up.
@@aporist There are at least two subclads of haplogroup Q in Europe. One is believed to come from the Huns. The other, first found in Western Norway, is more closely related to the subclads found in America, and split from them either in Siberia or even in Beringia during the Beringian standstill.
You're right, there are more than two subclads of Q. Seems those Q-guys knew that there's a continent beyond the ocean and together with the Goths 'discovered' America before Columbus.@@acenname
Brooo what's the intro song?
Sicily was also part of the VANDAL empire… it’s weird to me this map doesn’t show more on that side
First, I had an autosomal dna test and I found loads of realtives in the USA, both on my father's and mother's side. I also have done the mt-dna test. My haplogroup is H11a1. It points towards Sweden and Finland, also common in the Neatherlands and Denmark. Ties in with some of the autosomal results too. All in all if you do your geneology, dna testing is a great help.
I think the Visigoth kingdom in southern France and Spain may help explain the density of I haplogroup in the Provence of France. The Vandals also settled in northwestern Spain, so perhaps…
Well .. kind of / I1 is a very useful marker of 'germanic' patrilineal dna particularly when looking at low resolutions - people with 'R1b' and 'R1a' were also 'germanic/viking' - however it is not useful to talk about R1b like you can I1 as it is much much broad. As you can be R1b and be basque, Indian, or African or even the Egyptian boy-king Tutankhamun. To be accurate it would need to be R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106). For R1a - R1a1a. With I1 making up a 45% at its peak in scandinavia the remaining patrilineal is R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106) and R1a1a. The culture grew out of the 3 main groups that is how the culture developed - not by I1 in isolation - Scandinavian Hunter Gatherer (SHG) populations were a mix of R1b, I2, R1a and some others. There has never been a population of solely I1 in Scandinavia - the R1b and R1a were always there beside it. So where you see I1 in Europe you can probably double the amount of germanic/viking numbers to account for R1b1a1a2a1a1 and R1a1a.
I was thinking this. I was confused for a minute.
I knew someone would address it in the comments.
I do know that the tallest people in Northern Europe test at the highest level on Yamnya ancestry.
Which makes a lot of sense about how they would have been perceived by smaller populations back then .
Even though all people were much shorter, they would have been robust intimidating men… and most likely some of the women 😆
Thank you.
The source for this I1 map also has other maps that might be more useful. For example, there is a Germanic Y-DNA map that seems to correspond more closely with what percentage of the DNA in a given region comes from Germanic people versus Celtic or Slavic people. It lists lower Saxony, Germany and other parts of northern Germany, Frisia, and Scandinavia in the 75+% range, which is more useful than the paltry percentages shown in those regions here.
There are a small group of Normans that were in Sicily and Cypress, but also sporadically throughout Mid to Late Roman Empire (just before and during migration period of 2-9th CE) had several Germanic peoples joing auxiliaries and the military and would have been enough to keep the genes going. Plus just about anywhere recessive genes will pop up. Some Asians are born Naturally redhead due to distant Scithian DNA
My brother and I took DNA tests and those came back as predominately "Norwegian" Our family came from England, Ireland,
Scotland and the area near Frankfurt Germany. When we began to study the history of the areas within the British Isles
where our family originated; we realized that these were areas that had been settled by the Vikings. We weren't sure about
the predominance of Vikings around Frankfurt Germany. This video was enlightening. Thank you. (subscribed)
My advice, if you can afford it, would be to have DNA tests from more than one company.
Please do a video about the Sami and the Vikings in the viking age. It is hard to find much information and so many people mistake a lot of facts :) Would love that!
According to a danish research I2 was dominant in Scandinavia but went extinct. I1 is a bottle neck surviver.
I wouldn't call I1 Germanic.
I1 and R1b are
Right there are also subclades associated with R1b and R1a. My purely paternal branch with Sweden ancestry is R1b. The "maternal" lines associated are I1.
@@karriewelborn7167 I1 is paternal as well.
So is I2 and is part of WHG ancestry.
Allentoft have great work on its presence in pre historical south Scandinavia
Yes it's pre indo European
11:43 Normans conquered Sicily
Italy case: yes you are right about your assumption but the map in dark blue was a little bit more accurate than the one with group I1.
It’s all little bit more east and more south.
Frederick Red Beard, legendary Suebi King settled the capital of his kingdom in Andria (Puglia near Brindisi, folks might know the famous octagonal fortress which belonged to him), the kingdom lasted a few centuries while the capital was later moved to Sicily and later ended up in Naples when the kingdom of Naples was built from the ashes of the kingdom of Frederick II Red Beard.
Now this kingdom was basically all south part of the boot + Sicily.
…Knowing Italian culture, I believe there was a lot of interbreeding between nobles and regular folks… that’s how these light features are still so present in the South, more occasional there than common I would say but still well spread. Sicily was also conquered by the Normans like someone else here said and during Rinasciment became popular vacation spot where Noble families from England, France, and Astro-Hungary had their summer estates.
I'm fullblood dutch. I have researched my ancestry from my mother and father line back almost 600 years. (i have Frankish, Saxon and Frisian blood so all major dutch tribes from the early middle ages) ) But when i did a DNA test they say i'm 58% scandinavian and 42% English and no Northern europe. So i understand your aversion of DNA tests.
The DNA of the North Sea Germanic people is almost identical to that of North Germanic people. I1 went almost to the Harz. You have no English ancestry, just a high match. This means that you are probably descended primarily from Saxons and Angli with a Frisian/Franconian admixture. Many Saxons also became Frisians because they immigrated to this area after 300 after the population there declined sharply.
Im approximately half English from the south. And the rest mixed British. what is the probability that I don't have any Germanic ancestry?@@RackerPaS
@@Teutonick143 There must be a mix-up there. In particular, we are talking about Old Saxony in northern Germany.
The first DNA tests were simple and showed areas of match without a familial connection. If a southern German had Celtic genes, Ireland or Shottland was shown to him, without taking into account that Celts were also in southern Germany.
@@Teutonick143 But to answer your question directly, the likelihood is slim.
You also have to consider the algorithm that the testing company uses when assigning regions, they typically only go back 400-500 years to see how the dominants haplos were distributed at that time. Since you're primarily Germanic, they decided to assign you areas that just might have had a slightly higher percent match on whatever markers that company uses; a different company might use different markers and have a different reference database.
My father's results were a similar puzzle, it came back as close to 50% British Isles (what? we're Scottish?) when everything for generations was German; I ultimately attributed it to successful ancestors whose progeny moved all around the Baltic and North Seas, and some of those ancestors were 1000, 2000 or more years ago, yet their genetic signature still shows up today.
I'm from the region of Molise, the capiital of this Region Campobasso was found by the longobards. In the Molise region (east of Rome) we have one of the highest percentage of I Haplogroup in Italy (province of Campobasso) approx. 15-20 %. I am blond and blue-eyed, my mother is blond with green eyes. My father was blond when he was younger, but has brown eyes. My brother is blond with brown eyes. My grandmother had red hair. Both on the father's side and on the mother's side have almost half light eye color (blue or green) Hair color e1/3 blond 2/3 dark. Blond or blue eyes is nothing unusual for us, but we are a small region with only 300000 inhabitants, so small groups of immigrants have had a large influx. Other villages of Longobard origin in my region: Morrone del Sannio, Santa Maria del Molise, Petrella, Trivento, Larino, Colli al Volturno, Cerro al Volturno, Scapoli, S. Maria Oliveto, Roccamandolfi, Colletorto (my mother is from there), Guardialfiera, Castelgiudice, Civitacampomarano, S.Maritino in Pensilis,, the place Roccamandolfi comes from the Longobard name Mangulf. Longobard countesses in Italy were precisely in Molise until 1100 AD. Civitate sul Fortore (1053). Some say that the conquest of Boiano is linked to the first military campaigns of Robert Guiscard, who penetrated, bypassing the Matese massif, into the Lombard county. The conquered area will be assigned, as is customary, to one of the most valuable knights, Rudolph de Moulins. The latter (1054) signed an important document desired by Guiscard, in favor of the Trinity of Venosa. Rodolfo was succeeded by Guidmondo, perhaps his son, who married Emma d'Eboli. From them will be born Rodolfo II, future count. Of the De Moulins family, later called De Molisio, the best known personage is Hugh I, son of Rudolph II. With him the county of Boiano became an important center controlling a territory that was extended to the east (Toro and San Giovanni in Galdo) while on the other side he also succeeded in annexing the county of Venafro. In 1105 he fought against the Borrello counts, becoming lord of Pietrabbondante and Trivento, the last Lombard counties. Hugh's lands come to encompass a large territory of strategic importance, dependent partly on the duchy of Apulia and partly on the principality of Capua. Typical surnames of longobard origin in my region: Loffreda, Lombardi, Stamberga, Molinaro, Rodolfo, Oddo, Raimondo, Ruggero, Staffoli etc. etc By the way, the Normans brought I haplogroup to Sicily (province of Palermo and Trapani) there are quite a few people with red hair, yes in Sicily.
My great grand daddy was also haplogroup I1a , his surname is Kalac , the meaning of his surname is connected with smelting iron
Place where he come from Montenegro is called Gusnica also connected with the German word Guss or the word gissen which means to smelt in English
Very cool info, cheers from Haplo I1 sherwood England
Among Bosniaks there are around 109 families that hold haplogroup I1a. The highest concentration of haplogroup I 1a is found in the city of Zvornik that is situated beside river of Drina that was a boundary between East and West Roman empire
I was under the impression that I1 broke off from I2 in the Balkans and I1 then goes west into Italy and Spain and then moves back East up through France and Denmark into Norway and Sweden - leaving early I1 remnants in Italy Spain Albania Serbia - I don't think their I1 was later - it was way earlier
It is still a big puzzle
But the fact is I2a is more numerous than I1a in the Balkans
Those who have I1a P109 still speculate that their ancestors arrived 900 years ago because their TMRCA is not older
@@user-nk4dp4yd4d I suppose as the data comes in over time we'll figure it out - it is interesting in a way as to why some people leave and some people stay - manifesting in different haplogroups and their more specific sub groups - were they more adventurous or more disruptive ? and the physical differences are less relevant to me than the psychological differences
The algo is really screwing me on my Norse magic and beliefs… I just don’t see you at all anymore. I’m going back to just specifically checking in weekly. Good to see you again fren.
Do a video on Dwarves in the sources and your own personal thoughts on them!
My grandparents were recent immigrants to the usa. I can tell you when i was a young adult it was still the culture to only marry within that immigrant group. I caught a lot of flak from my family for not adhering to this. I have over 80% Scandinavian dna with the I haplogroups well represented. No doesn't mean I'm a Viking. Just that my ancestry comes from northern Europe. I have fish allergies but i thought that was odd with my ancestry coming from people with a lot of fish in their diet. I looked up fish allergies and found it Scandinavian people have the highest number of fish allergies in the world. Anyhow. Another interesting video. Thank you.
Real I does not mean viking, but germanic °° We real germans were also the same origins, we have still I2 variant older than I1 same as in Sweden °° These romans plus roman hybrids together with the slavics do this ultra evil cruelest genocide against us with genetic swamping deleterious hybridization forceful interracial reproduction outbreeding eugenics and other mass war crimes against humanity as executions, pillaging, starvation as a method of warfare …We were the same I1 and I2 variants as the scandinavians!! Bro, we are your fathers, son normally must help us last germanics in germanistan where this evil cruel genocide takes place right now ://
It makes sense what you said about the people looking different in that area of high density i1 in Scandinavia ... If you watch the movie Hawaii Oslo ..it seems to give a good impression of the people in the main I1 haplogroup area in Scandinavia. ive noticed my phenotype seems most common in that area( southwest sweden/ oslo area ) Fridtjof Nansen,Anders Breivik😬,Trond Espen Seim,Jan Gunnar Røise ,Morten Faldaas..good examples i think of that area..
very interestingly there's a city in Portugal (where im from) with a lot of viking traditions (runes, stones, the boat, blonde, blue eyed people, etc)
Are you keeping the name a secret?
R1a - yp5598. Ancestors from Oslo Norway. Theoretical path was through the baltics, Germany and Denmark then norway around the year 100 ce possibly.
Brother I'm portuguese, few years ago I made a DNA test, I have 5% Germanic and 2% Finland and North west Russia the rest is Celtic and Iberian
Thank you for the information. He didn’t even bothered to talk about the Iberian peninsula…
Cool info brother cheers from I1 sherwood England
Calling I1 a germanic hapologroup is inaccurate because it originated before Indo European migrations, who introduced the proto Germanic language.
As far as Viking DNA is concerned, certainly a large proportion would be I1, especially from Sweden. However there would also be large proportions of r1a and r1b (indo European haplogroups)
Hello man, could you maybe do a video about Anatolian paganism? Like from the Hittites Lydians maybe trojans or some stuff, I’m half turkish and looking into my Anatolian roots
Attention! In southern Italy the Normans had also a conquered an own Kingdom. And kingdom of Naples was from about 1200 to 1268 ruled by swabian Hohenstaufen dynasty. This is may be the reason swabian people ( i am swabian) ate some food similar to italian food, when italian food was unknown in Germany. Examples: Nudeln/ Pasta, Spätzle/ Spazzulla, Maultaschen/ Ravioli, Tortellini, Dätscher, Deie, Dinnet/ Pizza.
Cool, it's theorised that Swaffham in Norfolk comes from the Swabbians. Cheers from Sherwood England
@@antonyreyn : Sherwood Forrest? Nottingham? Somewhere i read that the english settlement name ending ,-ingham' means , Settlement of ....' , so Nottingham would be , Settlement/ Farm of Nott'. In my swabian Homeregion the most common settlements name ending is. ,-ingen', meaning , Settlement of ....s men/ retinue'. So maybe the Not far away village Notzingen may BE means the Same than Nottingham, when this is true. Also in Bavaria there is a town Ochsenfurt, means Ox(en)ford in english. Ox an Ochs ( dialects of southern Germany ) is spoken the same. But that Baltimore was founded by a man from nearby village Baltmannsweiler is a lokal joke
@@brittakriep2938 very intereting info thanks,yes nottingham but our founder was actual Snotti which has a negative sound in English so they changed it. But I also wonder about the ING because of the God Ingvi and Anglo Saxon is called Ingaevone. Cheers
R-1a and T-2b here. We share DNA with the famous Bj581 gravesite on Bjorko island, Sweden. Interesting to note, the Birka viking woman does not appear to be Swedish, although my ancestors are Scandinavian - Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and Finnish, but T-2b is more German and may suggest that the Bjorko island viking gravesite Bj581 was actually a foreigner from mainland Europe.
Bro what are you gabbering about? Western Norway is less I1 because it’s much more R1B. Why do you forget to mention R1 throughout this video? That “intermarriage” in western Norway is I1 mixing with R1 not mixing with “Portuguese and Spanish sailors” lmao 🤦🏻♂️
Like Iceland, Norway had genetic contributions from the British Isles.
I too find this interesting. Especially with how much the Norse spread out over time. And then there was the time they were part of the Varangian Guard. I think the fascination comes from the "Vikings" and it's associated type shows. Plus it's just plain neat, especially to this group.
Hi,
I come from Montenegro
We have tribes called Novljani and Drobnjaks, they have haplogroup I1a P109.
My father in law has this haplogroup, In Ottoman times in the Balkans they held titles such as pashas and begs
Cool stuff
Also btw England (more so in the south, east and south east) is predominantly anglo Saxon and overall more Germanic. Average Englishman is 40% anglo Saxon and around 20% Celtic with the rest being a bit of Scandinavian and French/german.
the Anglo-Saxon dna is very similar to modern day Danes and Dutch, so it's quite difficult to say how much is Danish Viking dna and how much is Anglo-Saxon because the Angles and Jutes came from Denmark and Saxons from the Netherlands plus northern Germany, but Northern Germany reads as Danes because it was part of Denmark
@@veronicajensen7690 yeah exactly, it’s hard enough to differentiate Celtic and Germanics but it’s obviously a lot more easier to than angles, Saxons, jutes, frisians, Danes and the other Germanics.
@jonnyneace8928 every region in England on average is about 37% anglo Saxon and 20% Celtic. This is very true, you can search it up and you will be met with various sources saying that exact thing.
@jonnyneace8928 yeah that’s why I said English are more Germanic, because the angles, jutes, Saxons, Frisian’s and Danes all have the exact same dna.
The Viking raids went up the rivers in France. These included the Seine, the Loire, and the Garonne Rivers among other tributaries. The Normans picked up from there. The Norman lion is featured on many of the provincial crests of these valleys onto the Massif Central. That explains the DNA. R1B was the major Y haplogroup of the Germano-Celts.
Goths and Normans migrated to and conquered parts of Italy. Both raided Sicily. The Normans even established the Kingdom of Sicily. Perhaps the Lombards even went there at one point as well. It is likely that Visigoths and later Normans had the same effect on southern France.
The lombards ruled Italy for well over 200 years after the Roman empire fell. The Norman's showed up later, and were tolerated, but they did not rule anything, until we decided we didn't want to anymore and handed the crown, and keys to the kingdom to Charlemagne. Had we wanted to, we could have easily removed them from existence like we did the vandals. We were tired of the politics and backstabbing though. 14:09
The visigoths are not germanic at all but celtic romanians ( dacians), that got to spread christianity to the germanics.
We are the same ancestory cool. I have the dna with the Spain background 11% but I am 44% scandinavian and the rest is Scottish and Irish ancestors. You are awesome 👌 ❤ thank you for your delegence in your curiosity for knowledge of are ancestors and culture.
This is so interesting. I always thought I was German based on where my grandparents were born. After DNA, I found that I'm a large part Danish and Swedish!
I have haplogroup I2a. Y 4460 also have found some people with Scandinavian ancestry having that
Interesting that my haplogroup was found among Kievan Russ
In the Kievan Russ graves were found the remnants of one nobleman Gleb Swiatoslavich who has my haplotype as well
Haplogroups are interesting in telling something about general population movements, but not really about individuals. Also R1b and R1a are common among Germanic people. The Norman Conquest actually was predominantly French people not Vikings.
The majority of Americans with the Vick surname are Hap Q of the variety often found in Iceland and to a lesser extent in Norway with some in other countries like England and in some central Asian tribes like the Kets. We trace our paternal origins to southwest England. We suspect our paternal origins may have a connection to vik as in Viking (said with a short i in Scandinavia not the long i in English). Our Hap Q may also be a result of some ancient mixing of the Vikings with the Kets as part of going viking in the fringes of Asia.
I like your videos generally but I feel your disdain for DNA testing needs to be reconsidered with some humility. Looking in the mirror is hardly a scientific test....imagine a child of a 100% Norwegian DNA person who married an Asian or African individual looking in the mirror, I doubt they would figure they were of Viking ancestry. I previously thought I was likely 100% Celtic/Anglo Saxon as I was born in north central England and we could trace back 5 generations in the same general area. Looking the mirror showed blue eyes and red brown hair so made sense. However!!! testing showed almost 25% Norwegian on my maternal side. Big surprise. It turns out that my mother's paternal side (name of Nelson, which could or could not indicate scandi background since also common in Ireland) was actually traceable back after 5 generations to the west coast of Lancashire where there are many towns with Scandinavian names (Ormskirk, Formby, Skelmersdale). I have matched genetically on MyHeritage and other site with many distant cousins from that area and also matched to a number of Norwegians distantly. The most likely explanation historically for my genetic profile is an expulsion of Ingimundr, a Norse viking, from Ireland in 902 who settled north of Chester after agreeing with Queen Athelflaed to not attach that town and being given land for settlement. The local genetics shows the persistence of Norse genes to the present day. Without DNA testing I would never have known this fascinating part to my family ancestry. Dr. Stephen Harding has done a lot of research into the viking presence in the Wirral area if you are interested and he has UA-cam videos on the subject. Sincerely......David
there is no thing as "viking ancestry" can u guys stop saying that?
@@Einarr_Norge Agreed.....sorry for the poor phraseology. I show some degree of DNA matching with various peoples who could be labelled as Vikings....including Celtic norse individual in Iceland burial, various Danish skeletons in both UK and Scandinavia, Jutland burials, etc. In other words, a hodge podge of individuals who lived in the so-called Viking age mirroring the fact that 'Vikings' could come from many places. My main point was that it was not possible to determine ancestry based on looks alone and that DNA analysis 'may" be helpful. in my personal case my DNA quite surprising to my family showed evidence of Norwegian ancestry which was completely a surprise but eventually made more believable by finding the more distant family tree coupled with the history compared to the one my parents knew prior to the current surge in genealogy research. Interestingly, my mothers mRNA testing shows a number of hits to Norwegian women too as well as the expected UK ones, as well as Americans that were linked to emigration in the 1700s.
@@Einarr_NorgeYou beat me to that answer 😂
first thanks for the reply because it jogged something in my mem to further look at. I also have Nelson ancestors. Nelson is an interesting surname because it is considered to be a matronymic. if any knows otherwise please post (last looked this up decades ago, so -). it can also be a Scots name, my Nelsons come from the Ulster Scots settlements in Augusta county VA and thence to NC. some germans here and there Welsh Lewises and Boones but very few English in Augusta county at least in the early period. Guin is another ambiguous gaelic surname it means white)
the tests are pretty accurate for me. Went thru two different companies. Im satisfied.
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King Roger in Sicily was Norman and brought his relatives and retainers, and later, (1194-1266), the Hohenstaufen dynasty ruled Sicily, with Frederick II (half Swabian half Sicilian) being the most famous (called Stupor Mundi), he brought retainers and soldiers from Swabia and other parts of Germany. After Charles of Anjou took over with French forces, the Rebellion of the Vespers kicked them out soon after and the Sicilians invited the Catalans (Kingdom Aragon) to take possession of the island. Unfortunately the Castilians eventually inherited the island and basically robbed the wealth of the land and fisheries for centuries.
The vandals also passed through Sicily as well as the Norman conquest
You might enjoy this book as well. The Viking Heart: How Scandinavians Conquered the World
I could imagine the higher percentages on the Balkans is related to trading along the Danube. In Bavaria graves were found where Germanic men were buried with women from the Black Sea region. As trade along the river was important, there might have been a practice of intermarrying to strengthen alliances of tribes that did trade with each other. Because if you look at where on the Balkans the percentage is higher, that seems an area around the Danube.
We had surpising results in our DNA. My mom had her DNA and my brothers from Ancestry. Then for my birthday last year, she got the MyHeritage DNA test for me. The surprising thing was we found Italian DNA in my list instead of french and dunno how that happened. My dad's side is German and French and English (although he wouldn't admit that). My mom's side is pretty much all English and Welsh and a smattering of Scots... She was surprised to find Denmark and Scandinavian DNA. We figured it has something to do with Vikings, but still haven't really proved it. Maybe that's where the Italian came from too. I dunno. DNA is so confusing.
I dont understand, on several dna tests i am roughly 50% scandinavian, 30% english snd the rest other european ancestry but my haplogroup is e1b1b which is african in descent! Im so confused lol
jews? 😅😅
@@an0nycat meaning?
Hi your Haplogroup is only a minute % of your Dna - example over 500 years you have approx 200,000 ancestors but only 20 direct haplogroup paternal ancestors. So the test is right just an interesting anomaly to your overall results. Cheers from Sherwood England
What about spain?
Nirmands were in Sicília… but notice Galicia and Nort Portugal there were Suevii, above Visigoths.
I'm brazilian, but I have green eyes, red beard and very pale skin. Unfortunately I cant afford a DNA test right now, but I dont know any brazilian native or african ancestry in my family's history. My father family comes from Netherlands and mainly Portugal. My mother's family (which my phenotype resembles the most) come from Switzerland, Northern Italy (Trento) and Spain. I'm trying to find my path into pagan spirituality and I don't feel right following brazilian african cults as I may not have any family ancestry on it (it just feels disrespectful) but I was born in Brazil, not in europe. From all the countries my family came from, the celtic people were present in the past. Would it be legit to follow a celtic pagan path? Even tho I live in a very different culture?
Excellent video! I'm an American of British ancestry. According to my DNA I'm 7% Norwegian and 5% Danish however accurate that may actually be. I do have a lot of distant Norman ancestry .
Haplogroup I1 is spredaed not only because of the Goths on the Balkans, as there are many sub groups of I1 there, but also due to Saxons migration there druing the late middle ages around 12 century, even later during the Othoman Empire 14-15 century, which continued to setteled them from Transilvania in it's territopry, for minnig iron and precious or non-ferrous metals, such as silver and copper (actually these were saxon miners, or transilvanian saxons) and to contribute that way to it's economy. This cleary could be seen as a 5% I1 path to the Greek Coast on the White Sea, the places where these metals were mined and saxon meniere's settled. But in general, I1 was spread in these territories due to the Slavs migrations, who are actually descendants of the Ostrogoths who lived in Panonia, mixed with some Baltic tribes from the North and Sarmatian tribes from the Caspian and Carpathian regions.
11:45 I have a book The Viking Warrior The Norse Raiders Who Terrorised Medieval Europe by Ben Hubbard that seems to answer this question. Firstly, long time watcher, occasional commentator, I value your humility and advice in such as not seeking to be a cult leader or a dam online “Gothi” like some state-side cliquish UA-cam sources. Much respect in I remember you stating to doubt everyone. Like the Outlyers of Utgard, our knowledge is our own to adopt, no supervision needed. Also I respect how being asked to do this kind of video is cringey. Anyway, there is accounted Snorri thru this book of a Harald under Yaroslav back in Miklagard Varangian Gaurd days who sacked a Sicilian Castle by fixing tar and splinters to small birds, setting them alight thus the fortress & woods, making light work of the capture. Oh it says it’s Hardrada or our familiar Hagalaz Bjork guy. Hope that helps, I’m guessing it’s in the Heimskringla.🤘🧐☔️
Like all these maps
So, it seems a lot of comments agreed to the vid maker not to take dna test, but then most do exactly knows their haplogroup. Interesting 🤨
1:00 well it depends, the commercial dna testing can be VERY spotty, but my brother and I grew up with a guy who is now a Ph.D genealogist who analyzed our dna personally and confidentially which turned out exactly how we were expecting it to because we already knew a lot about our lineages, but he was able to give us more information about famous and not famous ancestors who have had their dna sequenced, which provided us with some very cool new information. So if you can get a private lab to do your testing you’ll get more accurate analysis and more information from that analysis. The big brands in the field have already been shown to have some problems with their privacy and their methodology, which is a real shame because the science isn’t the problem it’s the companies.
Dude I love your content but sometimes there’s random blips of copyright free video.
My own Y hsplogroup is R1a-CTS3402. My paternal grandfather was from the far southeastern part of the Oberpfälzer Wald, a part of the world called in some circles Bavaria Slavica. Oh, well . .
Sorry to say but argument about Irish women at Iceland is totally wrong. Y-DNA is completely about direct male line, so it has nothing to do with wives' DNA
One can have a haplogroup I1 and be black African or Chinese. Y-Haplogroup may show tribe movements, but not so much on a individual ,Funny how I1 is called Germanic when Germans dominant haplogroup is R1b.
German and germanic are not synonyms.
@@cathjj840 your statement is true, but is a false narrative to the point. I said is funny because the genetic term of I1 is called Germanic when the name Germanic is mostly related to people who speak a Germanic language.
Gotland has also the highest frequency of I1
I1, R1b, R1a, who met, fought, and melded in the greater Germania area from 5000-3000 ybp figured it out. Somehow, the I1 persevered and held their own during the Northern Indo European expansion and became one with them. Much like Amerindian tribes would meld with European colonists 500 years ago across the Americas. It may have been rough in the beginning but it is lost in the past… and here we are…. Still breeding with our cousins from around the world. There is only one race, the human race. Much respect to our out of Africa hominids who helped make the out of Africa homo Sapien colonists who we are: the Neanderthal and Denisovian.
I can fill in for Sicily! A Norman kingdom was founded there by the house of Hauteville, which lasted from 1061 to 1262. It was a beloved dynasty, which held Palermo as the capital, thus explaining the highest presence of that haplogroup exactly where the Norman court was. People are most amazed at knowing that there are waaaay more blonde blue-eyed Sicilians (roughly 1 out of 3-4 people) than dark-skinned ones (in my experience they are roughly 1 out of 20). We're a beautiful genetic mosaic, comprised of Greeks, North Africans, Normans, Italians, Spanish and much more!
Sorry I keep commenting this but can you look into Native American and Viking connections? Heard a lot of the myths match up almost perfectly between each other. Seeing they were there in 1000ad shows there could be real probability of Native American and Vikings interacting and interbreeding
That area in southern France could also be the old visigothic capital that they held before the Franks conquered them in that region
The area in Southern France might be left over from the Visigothic kingdom of Toulouse, before the Franks kicked them out of Gaul and left them with Spain. The area east of Rome could be from the southern branch of the Lombards - Benevento, I believe. The Lombard took over much of Italy except for coastal cities. Once the Romans (Byzantines) reestablished a land connection between Rome and Ravenna the Dukes of Spoleto and Benevento seemed content to be separated from the Lombard king in Northern Italy - They like the fact that they didn't have to pay him taxes and take his orders much. Sicily's spot I believe was the Norman conquest of Sicily during the middle ages. Northwest Spain appears to be where the Suivi settled after moving through Gaul, I believe in the early 400s.
My father was descended from the Scottish Border Clans who are considered to have descended from Normans invited to the area by King David I. My Haplogroup is i1.
As far as I know, haplogroups do not determine your genetics. The most common haplogroup in many European countries is R1b, which is very prominent in several parts of Africa. It's even the most common in Norway, just like in Spain (my country, btw). I'm no expert in genetics, but I think you got this all wrong.
Still love you and all you do. I agree with what you said at the beginning, we need no tests. I know for sure I'm overwhemly Celt, even if my surnames are Germanic. No test needed, just a mirror, family investigation and some history.
May the Gods bless you.
Ya i think you might be right
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Look into who moved into Ethiopia in ancient times
@@DeepDarkSamurai who did? But ye i dont find it odd that r1a or r1b are in africa, the mediterranian was the domestic sea of these haplogroups during roman times to say the least
I was adopted so I can’t look at my family history. These tests are all I have. DNA shows I’m 92 percent Northwest European…England, Ireland, Scotland,Danish, Swedish.
Barely any Norway or Wales. What’s weird is 7 percent parts of Africa which is weird for a 6’ 3” 250 pound blue eyed white guy 🤔.
Funny thing: I know that a few years ago a man from Ukraine took a DNA test, and it turned out that he did not have the standard Slavic haplogroup, but "I". 😅😅
By the way, he lived in a city near the water until 2022...
Interesting. My grandparents came from western Sweden.