In our day, many gatherings have a totemic object, such as a 'talking stick', indicating that this person has a right to be heard. AFAIK democracies would function better if opponents might listen outside their reverberating silos.
Haha, it was a tradition in order for others to respect the speaker, until things got changed much the way of a mask wearing, Brits tend to have an odd way of raising a point across which is named 'Hat toss' Ever since the events unfolding after world war 1, people used hats as a way to respect those fallen, ever since wearing a hat inside of parliament became a law, you must wear a hat to speak across an important message to the Chairman. Nowadays since gender equality and religious individuality it was abolished, not only people found the hat tossing and wear sorta rude, it could also go against anothers gender or religious beliefs let's say, they wore a burka or some other form of religion type of hat, nowadays, it's straighten up the tie and lay down your die, odds Vs evens, who's voice will win type of policy which still goes strong to this day
British Parliament jeering and bickering like children: This is fine. British Parliament putting on a hat to speak: This is absurd. People will think we're childish.
@@user-ig2vf3yl1c it's an intentionally adversarial place, as it should be. part of being adversarial is labelling the other and trading names. i swear, people just like to complain nowadays
Sorry but your motion can not be heard clapping is strictly forbidden in this house chamber, I am going to have to ask you to refrain from such an action.
Honestly this looked pretty baller. The throw, the reception, the flick of the wrist opening the hat, and then to top it off the most rizzed out sitting I've ever seen
Absolutely agree. This was straight up the most courtly and suave introduction to speaking ones own point of conversation. Every society at some point has had this method of speaking in groups. This just so happened to be the most refined cultured introduction I've seen in a courtroom.
@@user-ty2oe8jb9q ok, but here me out, what if we demand that the MP's and fishi rishi as well as the other worthless bastards that i can't remember right now start saying the proper, unfiltered truth...AND wear the funny hat?
Which is sad cause it actually kinda does it's job, especially with the top hat, it's hard to miss whose speaking or that they want to, especially since they still have to exit the forum to cast their votes
If schools can have a talking stick then parliament can have a talking hat. Keeps shit simple, organised and it stops everyone talking over each other and would lead to more shit actually being done
Bring it back. I've seen enough parliamentary debates to know that heckling and mud slinging needs to stop. Politicians behave like children in a sandpit these days.
as an english "person" the only thing good about our politics is these weird out of date laws made up hundreds of years ago for apparently no fucking reason are the only thing about our politics that isnt depressing or frustrating also the speaker of the house has to get dragged into his new seat when he is appointed also a guy titled the black rod has a little ceremony they do where the door of the house of commons is slammed in their face
@@notnotadevstill an improvement. Anything involving those husks doing something that might shuffle them off the mortal coil so someone who actually wants to represent the people and not their rich upper class friends is an improvement lol.
: Have you seen the new bank notes, designed so that nobody will want to use them: So we'll have to use credit cards, then they can change £ into €, which they can easily deny has anything to do with them?
@@GrammarPaladin honestly i just meant the hat lol. There is nothing wrong with interruptions. Wouldn't it have been nice if someone interrupted Hitler in The German Congress/Parliament/Reichstagg? Because man, absolutely silencing people is not democratic at all. Theyre elected for a reason. Maybe some British MP starts spewing pure nonsensical hatred, should we let it go because of the hat? Interruptions should be allowed. Thats why theres a Speaker. America just had a national debate on Representatives in State Congress/Parliaments being silenced by "super majorities" which is a phenomenon only known here really lol like they wouldn't even hear their side of the debate because it was technically unnecessary omfg its horrible. 2 Democrats got impeached then reinstalled as their own replacements it's a mess really. I choose interruptions over autocracy.
Not at all. This isn't what most causes them to be ridiculed. The sad thing is they absolutely need to bring this back because, from what I've seen, it's complete chaos in that room every day now.
@@markopolo1271 It couldn't inject interest into this pit of cretins if they were wearing a hat that projected a hologram of You've Been Framed greatest hits out of the top.
You do realise it was still in this era they shouted a lot. They're the ones who invented that style of talking and "hear hear" blind by nostalgia as always people are. We have clips from thatcher times
I will never understand how hats have gone so out of fashion 😭 a giant step back imo… Ive been watching a lot of WWII documentaries lately and I can’t help but think “Damn those hats and suits back in the day had style…”
They were of a certain class of people, most ordinary people back then had work overalls, sunday best and after work clothes. It wasn't all like peaky blinders and everybody had a suit and everybody just looked better, there was a much more grim reality to how people lived and especially with the little clothes they worn
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Music Well from the footage I’ve seen almost everyone you can see on camera walked around like that in big cities. I’m only talking about the US though. No idea how things were in Europe.
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Musiceven poor people wanted to look good. Nowadays, working people have a hundred outfits from Shein and other crap outlets, back then they have 1 or 2 very good quality outfits to wear when not at work. That would absolutely include a hat! Even farmers wore hats. Nice hats? No, but still hats.
I'd guess it's due to classes being a bigger thing but honestly it's probably also convenience/comfort. Now you can throw on really well made, comfy clothing that's cheap and simple. There's no need for all this hoopla and everyone agrees so it's become the norm to wear basic clothing. I think you'd get the piss taken out of you for dressing fancy but you'd look unique these days at least.
If your comment had been about the hat and Congress, my fellow Americans would have immediately begun arguing about whether the lice were Republican or Democrat.
I think we are now in a position to look back with the benefit of a quarter century's hindsight and say decisively that eliminating the hat requirement has not improved the conduct of Parliament's business.
😂class? That is exactly what has decimated the British NHS, introduced food banks as a necessity and seeks to blame immigrants and the under and unemployed for their greed and corruption.
I love how this actually worked, people would listen to whoever had the hat instead of constant interruptions Politicians help to show us all that adults are still just grown children
@@MaestroAlvis easy to follow the simple as long as its enforced. its like the talking ball. dont have the ball, dont talk. this isnt a bad idea at all, often we get rid of laws for stupidty that we dont question why they there. this wasnt a bad law, just an odd way of doing it.
I had to look it up. Figured some of you might be amused by some further reading. From "Some Traditions and Customs of the House House of Commons Information Office Factsheet G7 8" p7-8 (including the quote from the end of the clip): Alfred Kinnear MP, in 1900, summed up the hat-wearing rules as follows:- "At all times remove your hat on entering the House, and put it on upon taking your seat; and remove it again on rising for whatever purpose. If the MP asks a question he will stand, and with his hat off; and he may receive the answer of the Minister seated and with his hat on. If on a division he should have to challenge the ruling of the chair, he will sit and put his hat on. If he wishes to address the Speaker on a point of order not connected with a division, he will do so standing with his hat off. When he leaves the House to participate in a division he will take his hat off, but will vote with it on. If the Queen sends a message to be read from the chair, the Member will uncover. In short, how to take his seat, how to behave at prayers, and what to do with his hat, form between them the ABC of the parliamentary scholar." To increase their appearance during debates and to be seen more easily, a Member wishing to raise a point of order during a division was, until 1998, required to speak with his hat on. Collapsible top hats were kept for the purpose. This requirement was abolished following recommendations from the Modernisation Select Committee, which stated: “At present, if a Member seeks to raise a point of order during a division, he or she must speak "seated and covered". In practice this means that an opera hat which is kept at each end of the Chamber has to be produced and passed to the Member concerned. This inevitably takes some time, during which the Member frequently seeks to use some other form of covering such as an Order Paper. This particular practice has almost certainly brought the House into greater ridicule than almost any other, particularly since the advent of television. We do not believe that it can be allowed to continue.”
I think I cut that excerpt off before maybe the most interesting paragraph, at least the latter half of it: The Committee also recommended that Members raising such a point of order should do so by standing in the normal way but from a position on the second bench as close to the Chair as possible, so they could be heard by both the Speaker and the Official Report. Male MPs may still not address the House whilst wearing a hat: women Members are exempt from this rule, though the different rules in society generally relating to female hat-wearing may well have caused a few problems when women first sat in the House in the 1920s.
Very interesting! Thanks for the context. The modernisation of things like this is good. Imagine if we were like America and the hat rule was written by some guys 200 years ago and couldn't be realistically changed.
"Particularly since the advent of television" "The peasants can see us and ridicule us for all the stupid shit we do to feel important and Pike a nobleman"
@@buzz1ebee in both countries, the rules of the lower house are controlled by coddes of conduct made by the chambers and easily modifiable. That is why the hoise of representatives changed their code of conduct a few months ago to be more similar to the house of commons
Leaders doing what leaders do. Make everyone that wants to speak to you look like a fool first. Equivalent to making someone sit in a smaller shorter chair to speak with you.
"Everyone shut up I have the talking hat"
Hahaha
😆😆😆😆
nostalgia
The talking hat: "Huffelpuff!"
In our day, many gatherings have a totemic object, such as a 'talking stick', indicating that this person has a right to be heard. AFAIK democracies would function better if opponents might listen outside their reverberating silos.
Nah, bring that shit back. That looks dapper as fuck
And far less ridiculous than calling any of them honourable.
An Illuminati ritual, the mad hatter
No one asked you Yankie doodle
@@Psybodumb yankee
@@Nosh_FeratuI don’t think you know what that means. It doesn’t work in this situation.
Can we petition to bring the hats back?
Yup
I wear a hat like that when go to festivals does that count 😂
Can we petition to just get rid of that room entirely.
Yeah bring back the hats, the big red noses and the long shoes. Make them dress like the circus clowns they actually are.
Collecting signatures …. Me
Bro his swagger onto that sofa and the way he sits on it tells me he is an ancient rizzler.
Brooo lmfao
Senior sigma
That sofa had a small rip (maybe 4 inch ) and only cost 30k to repair. Yeh gov
The way he deploys the hat has such an aura
him flicking the hat, putting it on, and slumping into the seat to talk was about as fly as a politician can get I think
I can't elieve this childish crap is waht goes on in the commons. Tax paying adults must be enraged.
@@benmartin8281nah it’s just you
I’m 4 months too late, lol. Fly as fuck
@@benmartin8281 Cry?
@@benmartin8281do u know what fun is? Or do u just pay taxes and work. Chill man let him talk about what he wants
The hat toss, the way he puts the hat ON and his nonchalant pose really just adds to it.
it doesnt add to it. it is _it_
They can stay home now. The UNs are calling all the shots now..
Perhaps one of the most British things I've ever seen. 😂
I’ve never seen a more British act of government, this was top notch ol bean top notch I do say 🇬🇧
@@squidvis I wouldn't say typically British, more Old Etonian.
Ok but the way he caught the hat, popped it on, sat back and made his statement was way more class than it had any business being.
2 things here. 1: that was probably one of most British things I’ve ever witnessed. And 2: why was that so cool.
you can tell the dude practiced that hat toss.
parliment probably looked like a game of fucking frisbee
Haha, it was a tradition in order for others to respect the speaker, until things got changed much the way of a mask wearing, Brits tend to have an odd way of raising a point across which is named 'Hat toss'
Ever since the events unfolding after world war 1, people used hats as a way to respect those fallen, ever since wearing a hat inside of parliament became a law, you must wear a hat to speak across an important message to the Chairman.
Nowadays since gender equality and religious individuality it was abolished, not only people found the hat tossing and wear sorta rude, it could also go against anothers gender or religious beliefs let's say, they wore a burka or some other form of religion type of hat, nowadays, it's straighten up the tie and lay down your die, odds Vs evens, who's voice will win type of policy which still goes strong to this day
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One would expect so, the hat was kept for the exclusive purpose of allowing an MP to speak, the permission of the Speaker having been granted.
Should have kept this going.
They got their practice throwing around the weak bum boy at boarding school.
British Parliament jeering and bickering like children: This is fine.
British Parliament putting on a hat to speak: This is absurd. People will think we're childish.
Eeer eeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeee
The jeering and bickering is just part and parcel of parliamentary politics. Its better than physically fighting like some other parliaments do
A hat’s silly. Bickering in a place of debate isn’t
@@radicalrodriguez5912Debate in a place of debate isn't silly. But games of trading names, insults, and the us-and-them behaviour definitely is.
@@user-ig2vf3yl1c it's an intentionally adversarial place, as it should be. part of being adversarial is labelling the other and trading names.
i swear, people just like to complain nowadays
he sat down like he's about to drop the most posh pick up line to maddame speaker lol
“Grab the hat tommy boy I gotta spread some laws”
Okay, now THIS has to be the most British thing ever.
Shows how moronic they are.
I thought that the most British thing ever was genocide of the poor through calculated insidiousness
@@jayk3551 too obvious. Vaudevillian votive villainy veritably visably verbose? Verboten.
No actually the most British thing is being Anglo, Scottish, Welsh, Cornish, and Protestant Irish.
@@ezekielwritesstfu
👏🏻 bring 👏🏻 back 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 hat 👏🏻
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This
honestly
Put it in a campaign and I'll for for ya 😂😂
Sorry but your motion can not be heard clapping is strictly forbidden in this house chamber, I am going to have to ask you to refrain from such an action.
This is the most Monty Python looking shenanigans I’ve ever seen 😅
I think the hat rule is really befitting of the British Parliament. Bring it back!
Honestly this looked pretty baller. The throw, the reception, the flick of the wrist opening the hat, and then to top it off the most rizzed out sitting I've ever seen
Was he sticking out his gyatt for the rizzler?
Did you just unironically use the word “rizzed”?
The most British thing ever😂
@@harleyb7880 I could see the founding fathers getting down like this
Absolutely agree. This was straight up the most courtly and suave introduction to speaking ones own point of conversation.
Every society at some point has had this method of speaking in groups. This just so happened to be the most refined cultured introduction I've seen in a courtroom.
NO ONE IS GONNA MENTION HOW SMOOTH THAT MAN WAS WITH IT!?
I'm guessing this is gonna probably go viral like 7 or 8 years later just cos of how smooth he was.
It's literally how every meme starts out
@@maddogbasil A bit like the Theresa May walking meme
Brits always toss items around, same goes with how Australia says many unbelievable swears, it's a fine tradition which shows respect among peers
Exactly! Thought it looked kinda suave.
I know! Catch, hat popped, lounge on bench like a cat. Thats l true parliamentary privilege 🤣🔥
The pose on the sit he made with the sound of his voice is straight up the most IRL version of anime villian intro
okay but that was so cunty the way he popped it out and sat with the flair and everything i love it
Don't show this to Jacob Rees Mogg, he'll want this reinstated immediately.
It's a way of stopping mps talking over each other so he wouldn't want that.
Ngl it would be fun seeing this back again, and it has a purpose too lol
Nanny, fetch one’s hatty forthwith and don’t spare one’s horses.
Don't act like he doesn't know this was a thing. The man is a living fossil of Victorian Britain.
😂😂😂
The swagger in which he put the hat on and sat down, absolutely unparalleled. Bring the rule back.
Mums life that’s my grandpa
not only put it on, but also popped the hat open so easily. Opera hats aren't difficult to open, but he did it so smooth
Hahahh
I mean i would listen to him
@@t2ctproductions824no cap
Omg I would’ve farted in that hat after every single speech 😂😂😂😂❤❤😅
Oh, you sad, sad little creature.
Pathetic.
@@LuznoLindoAt least it’s not gay. 😊
That dude was smooth with that… absolute baller!
Bro took his seat like a fucking *don* 😂
We need to reinstate this rule....
That’s my grandpa mums life
NO. We need those FULCKERS to tell the truth and run the country honestly, and keep the flummery and contrivances to minimum.
I would rather see my neighbor's house smeared in dogshit than reinstate this rule
@@user-ty2oe8jb9q ok, but here me out, what if we demand that the MP's and fishi rishi as well as the other worthless bastards that i can't remember right now start saying the proper, unfiltered truth...AND wear the funny hat?
@@user-ty2oe8jb9qthe people who did this were honest.
bring it back,these funny old things are what make a culture.
And that's exactly what they want to destroy.
Which is sad cause it actually kinda does it's job, especially with the top hat, it's hard to miss whose speaking or that they want to, especially since they still have to exit the forum to cast their votes
No such thing as white ppl culture
If schools can have a talking stick then parliament can have a talking hat. Keeps shit simple, organised and it stops everyone talking over each other and would lead to more shit actually being done
I think the British Parliament and British judges should bring back the funny whigs
This dude’s accent makes the hat. Makes me think: “Of course he’d have that hat on, just listen to his accent.”
Bring it back. I've seen enough parliamentary debates to know that heckling and mud slinging needs to stop. Politicians behave like children in a sandpit these days.
As an American, I find the UK parliament far more entertaining than the US Congress. 😂
as an english "person" the only thing good about our politics is these weird out of date laws made up hundreds of years ago for apparently no fucking reason are the only thing about our politics that isnt depressing or frustrating
also the speaker of the house has to get dragged into his new seat when he is appointed
also a guy titled the black rod has a little ceremony they do where the door of the house of commons is slammed in their face
Same
Look up best of flint Michigan congress and you’ll change your mind I promise to god
@@bradley7013 eh sadly it's silly but, no sa much as the UK, over reacting yes but, not entertaining
I love the house of commons. Not so much half the tossers in there.
This would make the House of Commons a lot more civilised, no yelling without the fancy hat
it only applied to points of order and not debate
@@notnotadevso during a point of order no one can speak
@@notnotadevstill an improvement. Anything involving those husks doing something that might shuffle them off the mortal coil so someone who actually wants to represent the people and not their rich upper class friends is an improvement lol.
I'm American, but you guys need to bring this shit back
Lice: I’mma wreak havoc all up in here
I love this. They should have kept it. It's like a talking pillow.
You saying our government are all banging each other?
No! He obviously doesn't agree with wearing it. Makes him look leprechauno!
Proposing a vote on scrapping Pound Sterling (Aqri Communitaire)!
Hang on..... A talking PILLOW????? This raises so many questions
And far less ridiculous than calling any of them honourable.
: Have you seen the new bank notes, designed so that nobody will want to use them: So we'll have to use credit cards, then they can change £ into €, which they can easily deny has anything to do with them?
what a fun rule. Shame they got rid of it
Terrible for democracy
@@shonenjumpmagneto Isn't the house of commons filled with way more interruptions today than a few decades ago?
@@GrammarPaladin honestly i just meant the hat lol. There is nothing wrong with interruptions. Wouldn't it have been nice if someone interrupted Hitler in The German Congress/Parliament/Reichstagg? Because man, absolutely silencing people is not democratic at all. Theyre elected for a reason. Maybe some British MP starts spewing pure nonsensical hatred, should we let it go because of the hat? Interruptions should be allowed. Thats why theres a Speaker.
America just had a national debate on Representatives in State Congress/Parliaments being silenced by "super majorities" which is a phenomenon only known here really lol like they wouldn't even hear their side of the debate because it was technically unnecessary omfg its horrible. 2 Democrats got impeached then reinstalled as their own replacements it's a mess really.
I choose interruptions over autocracy.
@@shonenjumpmagneto How?
@@shonenjumpmagneto they are not a democracy they are a constitutional monarchy The people are not citizens they are subjects of the crown
Tradition is important, bring this back its awesome.
Very nonchalant and rather classy way of sitting! 😂
If you think this is what most causes them to be ridiculed, you haven't been paying attention.
Not at all. This isn't what most causes them to be ridiculed. The sad thing is they absolutely need to bring this back because, from what I've seen, it's complete chaos in that room every day now.
“Minister Of Silly Hats”
Well, that tops it off 😂
That sounds like a monty python sketch
“…Into greater ridicule”
Surely you must mean greater swagger because that MP casually expands the top hat and reclines onto the settee. What a dandy.
Where did he go, he turned invisable 😂😂😂
We need to reinstate this rule immediately
😅🤣🤣
Honestly though might as well add a little bit of spice into listening to them drivel on
@@markopolo1271 It couldn't inject interest into this pit of cretins if they were wearing a hat that projected a hologram of You've Been Framed greatest hits out of the top.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 same dude honestly but if I had to watch it I'd atleast want the hat to make a return
bring this back fr
1) funny
2) u cant interrupt without the hat
The way he sat back in the bench was so powerful
I'm willing to bet that in recent memory, this will prove to be the least worthy of ridicule thing the House is known for.
As an American I can appreciate how UK parliament is equally as useless as the US legislature but they at least make the effort to be interesting.
The perk of being a country of 4 countries rather than a federation of 50 states and 85,000 local council halls.
Don't do yourself down Mr American, your legislature is significantly more useless than ours.
Parliament are extremely useful.... At enriching their bank accounts. How dare you
Just Watch PMQ’s and you’ll have a laugh.
@@rainbowappleslice At least there's a weekly session were the executive is held to account. In the US, POTUS gives a speech once a year.
I like it, helps prevent interruptions, helps everyone know who is talking, and it’s probably really exciting to get the hat.
Adults can do that without putting on a hat, obviously not the English
That's what I thought too; there can be a lot of people in the room. And it works!
The rule does still prevail, but now it's a piece of paper.
@@StuartBrownlie Yeh parliament gets rather heated
@@StuartBrownliekinda hard to tell if you’re only staring at the back of their head. At least when they have the hat on you know it’s them.
@@StuartBrownlie u never have had a discussion with more then 3 people and it shows.
The way he slid into that seat though....classic.
I want to swear this man in as President right now, but he has to keep the hat on for the whole four years. 😂
It's upsetting that top hats and other hats no longer make up a part of fine attire.
Society has gone down the toilet since hats went out of fashion. And I don't mean baseball caps worn backwards - that's what 5 year olds wear.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Caring what's sitting on one's head is the downfall of humanity. Grow up. It's about what's in one's head.
@@TheManOfReason. He was clearly being sarcasting and mocking me
Hats seem to be making a bit of a comeback. Let's hope that the effing Tories never do.
@@sandormccann2546 Baldness is rampant!
Now they just have to hold the conch shell when it's their turn to speak, correct?
Hold the what??
All hail the magic conch!
@@Rialagmaread lord of the flies
Conch shell from splatoon??
@@amanda-we9fvthankfully someone got it haha
Thats actually a brilliant way of controlling the floor. They should have never gotten rid of it. What a bad decision.
This is the best thing I've seen all day
As an American, I’m jealous why can’t we have a special hat we toss around? we demand our politicians share a top hat too!
Someone would find it either threatening or unconstitutional knowing how petty the senate is
@@bencurran3204Still not as bad as congress right now. Atleast senators can mostly get along and be bipartisan when it matters most.
@@cadennorris960 The senate is part of congress.
@@allbirdsareedible Yeah I meant senate is better than the house
@@cadennorris960it must not ever matter unless they are sending money overseas
They shouldn’t have ever stopped this practice.
The position he adopts after putting on the hat is killing me😂
God please bring back the hat. "Thank you" as he puts it on like an absolute gentleman. Amazing, I'd listen to him.
Given how chaotic parliament is now, and how cool that hat throw looked, I vote we bring this back
"Good day, sir..."
"But..."
"I SAID good day, sir!"
The way he popped to that into its open position and just fell across that chair was magic😂
The very polite thank you, when he smashes the dust off the hat is crazy! Bring back the hat
Well, I don't hear hundreds of MP's shouting at each other like we do today
Hear, hear...
@@REAL2222ful or as it is currently, "errruuuyaaaheyyyyy"
You do realise it was still in this era they shouted a lot. They're the ones who invented that style of talking and "hear hear" blind by nostalgia as always people are. We have clips from thatcher times
I will never understand how hats have gone so out of fashion 😭 a giant step back imo… Ive been watching a lot of WWII documentaries lately and I can’t help but think “Damn those hats and suits back in the day had style…”
They were of a certain class of people, most ordinary people back then had work overalls, sunday best and after work clothes.
It wasn't all like peaky blinders and everybody had a suit and everybody just looked better, there was a much more grim reality to how people lived and especially with the little clothes they worn
EXACTLY! I don't care who sees it, I'll still dress like that now
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Music Well from the footage I’ve seen almost everyone you can see on camera walked around like that in big cities. I’m only talking about the US though. No idea how things were in Europe.
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Musiceven poor people wanted to look good. Nowadays, working people have a hundred outfits from Shein and other crap outlets, back then they have 1 or 2 very good quality outfits to wear when not at work. That would absolutely include a hat! Even farmers wore hats. Nice hats? No, but still hats.
I'd guess it's due to classes being a bigger thing but honestly it's probably also convenience/comfort. Now you can throw on really well made, comfy clothing that's cheap and simple. There's no need for all this hoopla and everyone agrees so it's become the norm to wear basic clothing. I think you'd get the piss taken out of you for dressing fancy but you'd look unique these days at least.
Dude sits back down with style 😂
Love the old ways that give culture its depth and flavor-
I actually like these old traditions.
To be fair, this sorta makes sense.
It makes it easy to spot who is raising the point in the house in order direct attention too.
probably the initial reason they did it lol
Okay, but he looked dapper as hell doing that.
We need the Sorting Hat to be able to sort this shit out today
I wonder if it ever spread head lice around Parliament.
There certainly are lice in Parliament
One can only hope.
@@yookeemookee The Liberal Democrats used to lick it clean so that they could say they were vital to UK politics.
If your comment had been about the hat and Congress, my fellow Americans would have immediately begun arguing about whether the lice were Republican or Democrat.
@@yookeemookee ahahahahahah great joke dude.
Without the hat, all they're really left with is their snake oil suits
I feel bad for all the snakes that were killed to get all the oil needed for those suits. R.I.P snakes, you didn't deserve that cruel treatment.
Can confirm. Washington, DC native.
Forget the hat. I couldn't sit like that and have a honest conversation.
That looks like a comedic skit 😂😂😂
I think we are now in a position to look back with the benefit of a quarter century's hindsight and say decisively that eliminating the hat requirement has not improved the conduct of Parliament's business.
Honestly we should have kept this as the house of commons are becoming more like a class room every year
It's the speakers job to keep order in the house IMHO we should have a few hefty types acting as bailiffs to help keep order.
@@user-ty2oe8jb9qthe serjeant at arms, their deputy and doormen are responsible for physical order, should the speaker require it
It is these foibles that gives Britain its culture.
Thats the best thing Ive ever seen. I'd vote for anyone who promised to bring this back.
Love that rule. Gives us some intrigue and class. Who cares if it’s antiquated, that’s how we like it.
😂class? That is exactly what has decimated the British NHS, introduced food banks as a necessity and seeks to blame immigrants and the under and unemployed for their greed and corruption.
It might be the fact that its an antiquated rule that gives it its class. Something modern society has forgotten
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Can't deny there was a flair to the way he whipped on that hat.
Disband the house of Commons and the house of Lords its 2023 lets have a REPUBLIC! Get rid of these CLOWNS who are ruining our country
BRING IT BACK ! We want OLD BRITAIN BACK ! 🇬🇧
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What’s Britain?? I thought it was called West Pakistan...
This rule was the most British and hilarious thing ever, bring it back
Ohhhhh…So this is why people play frisbee. So they can do this cool shit! Never made sense till today.
TBH....The Hat thing was DOPE AF.....💯
I love how this actually worked, people would listen to whoever had the hat instead of constant interruptions
Politicians help to show us all that adults are still just grown children
Did it work? Wouldn't everyone come with the minimal legal definition of a hat?
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easy to follow the simple as long as its enforced. its like the talking ball. dont have the ball, dont talk. this isnt a bad idea at all, often we get rid of laws for stupidty that we dont question why they there. this wasnt a bad law, just an odd way of doing it.
I do find it kind of cute, not going to lie.
@@MaestroAlvis Was most likely a requirement to have that specific hat. You likely weren't allowed to bring one in.
@@MaestroAlvis Yes I'm thinking I would just wear a 4 leaf clover as a hat 🙉
Bring back the hats. Look at the skills on that throw, it's artful.
yeah but he needs work on his catching. he catched like a nerd letting it hit his chest
I love this as it shuts everyone else up for a moment.
He snuck the immunity idol.
“Ridicule” what? Looking handsome, presentable, & FASHIONABLE? Ridicule i think I might make into a compliment, good sir!
This tradition must be kept! It's absolutely boss!
"Point of order Madame Speaker"...
"POINT OF ORDER YOU HEATHENS!"...
he's crossing his legs like he's having a chit chat over some ale at the local pub with his mates.
Bro was SO SMOOTH with it
I had to look it up. Figured some of you might be amused by some further reading.
From "Some Traditions and Customs of the House House of Commons Information Office Factsheet G7 8" p7-8 (including the quote from the end of the clip):
Alfred Kinnear MP, in 1900, summed up the hat-wearing rules as follows:-
"At all times remove your hat on entering the House, and put it on upon taking your
seat; and remove it again on rising for whatever purpose. If the MP asks a question
he will stand, and with his hat off; and he may receive the answer of the Minister
seated and with his hat on. If on a division he should have to challenge the ruling
of the chair, he will sit and put his hat on. If he wishes to address the Speaker on
a point of order not connected with a division, he will do so standing with his hat
off. When he leaves the House to participate in a division he will take his hat off,
but will vote with it on. If the Queen sends a message to be read from the chair,
the Member will uncover. In short, how to take his seat, how to behave at prayers,
and what to do with his hat, form between them the ABC of the parliamentary
scholar."
To increase their appearance during debates and to be seen more easily, a Member wishing to
raise a point of order during a division was, until 1998, required to speak with his hat on.
Collapsible top hats were kept for the purpose. This requirement was abolished following
recommendations from the Modernisation Select Committee, which stated:
“At present, if a Member seeks to raise a point of order during a division, he or she must
speak "seated and covered". In practice this means that an opera hat which is kept at
each end of the Chamber has to be produced and passed to the Member concerned. This
inevitably takes some time, during which the Member frequently seeks to use some other
form of covering such as an Order Paper. This particular practice has almost certainly
brought the House into greater ridicule than almost any other, particularly since the
advent of television. We do not believe that it can be allowed to continue.”
I think I cut that excerpt off before maybe the most interesting paragraph, at least the latter half of it:
The Committee also recommended that Members raising such a point of order should do so by
standing in the normal way but from a position on the second bench as close to the Chair as possible, so they could be heard by both the Speaker and the Official Report. Male MPs may still not address the House whilst wearing a hat: women Members are exempt from this rule, though the different rules in society generally relating to female hat-wearing may well have caused a few problems when women first sat in the House in the 1920s.
Very interesting! Thanks for the context. The modernisation of things like this is good. Imagine if we were like America and the hat rule was written by some guys 200 years ago and couldn't be realistically changed.
"Particularly since the advent of television"
"The peasants can see us and ridicule us for all the stupid shit we do to feel important and Pike a nobleman"
oooh ok this explains why I remembed seeing people covering their head with a sheet of paper way back in the mid nineties.
@@buzz1ebee in both countries, the rules of the lower house are controlled by coddes of conduct made by the chambers and easily modifiable. That is why the hoise of representatives changed their code of conduct a few months ago to be more similar to the house of commons
We need this in the states. Classy stuff.
Bros so cold with the hat. 🥶 That gentlemanly swagger fr go hard.
Bring this rule back
Once he dons the hat he sits on the bench nonchalantly, chatting like he’s in the park on a lovely summers day 😅
Leaders doing what leaders do. Make everyone that wants to speak to you look like a fool first. Equivalent to making someone sit in a smaller shorter chair to speak with you.
I think it's a fantastic idea and should be brought back, especially to unruly parliaments such as that of South Africa
Bring back the drip. Embrace tradition