Quietly Quitting The Church of England!
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Vicars are quietly quitting the Church of England, but they are not leaving!
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00:00 Introduction
02:40 The tension of being a priest at this time!
13:00 CEEC Spiritual Oversight
16:03 The Society of St Wilfred and St Hilda
17:37 What is the future?
As an Vicar in Australia I quietly quit, heart broken but convinced I could not stand with a church leadership walking away from 2 thousand years of orthodox truth found in scripture. I wish you well, 2 years on it’s the best decision I ever made.
Blessings
Stu
The Lord Blesses those who Honor Him and His Word alone!
Have all the Anglican churches in Australia walked away from orthodox truth?Edit. How does one know if the church one is attending is still following orthodox truth? Is there lists of these churches ?
In New Zealand our local parish church just fizzled and closed doors. Very sad.
That happened at least 30 years ago unfortunatel😢. Happily orthodox for 28 years.
Ask to see an orthodox priest. It's easy to find. There are plenty of Greek orthodox parishes in Australia.
I am a member of the Church of England and the Church in England. I was Christened in 1954 and I can read the Scriptures and 39 Articles and BCP as well as any Bishop or Archbishop can. If the hierarchy is apostate then they have no more authority than I have. The High Priest is Jesus and He has my loyalty. Maranatha.
Time to leave and join a proper church
Agreed. Though some will accuse us of being 'legalistic' for standing on Sola Scriptura, and the 39 Articles, which shouldn't be changes, jot and tittle (as for the BCP, there is a fine line between right worship and religiosity, so I am somewhat ambiguous about it).
Anyway, if we are so accused, then they have pin that on the Triune G-d! I would think He'd have something to say about that.
@@robertmiller1299 Do you think that leaving will help , and where to go? If the orthodox leave then the heterodox have the institution. The church then successively split. Christ only has one body.
@@chrismaguire3667 Ex church of England (Which I call "the cult of England") , now leaning ECFCE or main FCE (due to the Vanishing of Presbyterianism in the 1970s except for the FPCS who are too Legalist even for me and that is from someone who can be extremely Puritanical at times!!) , and personally Hold to:
All 5 Solae. Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Solus Christus, and Soli Deo Gloria.
All 5 Point of Grace. Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, Perseverance of the Saints. ("Five Point Calvinism"/ The Faith once delivered unto the Saints!)
The Apostolic, Nicene and Athanasian Creeds.
The Authorised Version of the Holy Scriptures (KJV1900) , but also open to ESV, NASB, LSB, NKJV, MEV, and NLT.
Scriptural Inerrancy and Infallibility as per the 1978 Council of Chicago (which was Presided over by a Reformed Anglican, J.I. Packer, let us not Forget, it is a Reformed Anglican Doctrine, not a Reformed Baptist one!)
Literal Genesis, Young Earth Creationist.
Open to both Flat or Round Earth. Leaning Flat.
The 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith.
The 95 Theses of Martin Luther.
John Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion.
The Heidelberg Catechism.
The 39 Articles of Religion 1571 as Expounded upon in the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith (I consider them as Partner Documents with Westminster 1646 being something of an Exegesis on the 39 Articles in many Places)
The 1619 Canons of Dort.
The 1647 Westminster Shorter and Larger Catechisms.
"Low Church" Liturgy Combining Elements of the 1619 Church Orders of Dort, the 1648 Westminster Standards and Directives, and the 1662 Book of Common Prayer. However, I am also Very Open to full 1662 "High Church" Liturgy, but also to Full 1648 "Lords Day Only and with Exclusive Psalmody" Non-Liturgical Presbyterian Worship. Accepting Guidance on that Matter.
Strict Traditional Cessationism! all forms of "Charismaticism/pentecostalism" are Voodoo Witchcraft via Azusa Street and are to result in Church Discipline!
That Lay Readers, Vicars, Deacons, Elders, Presbyters and Bishops must be Heterosexual, Politically conservative (not one shred of Liberalism or Social Marxism), Biological Males of Good Standing, living their lives in as close accordance to the New Testament Scriptures as Possible for a Sinner saved by Faith. Women may not exceed the rank of Laity. Strictly Patriarchal Complementarian.
Women are to be Silent in Church and are not to speak at all unless Permitted to Speak by the Elders in order to give Communion Vow, or Join Congregational Psalmody, Hymns, or Prayers. However I accept I could be being Legalist on that one and am Open to Correction if so!
No one is to speak when the Vicar or Elders are Preaching so they are not Disturbed.
The Regulative Principle of Worship in its 1662-1928 "Moderate" Format. (No Dancing in the Sanctuary, No Movies in the Sanctuary, No Rolling around on the floor, No Shouting, No Props, No Clapping, Hands may only be raised in Prayer, all Prayers to be conducted in English (No "tongues" which are to be treated as a Sign of Demonic Possession!) Music Limited to Pre 1928 Reformed Hymns with a Single Mechanical Piano or Organ for Accompaniment and Unaccompanied Old Testament Psalmody, Optional Giving (forced "tithes" being the Damnable Heresy of Judaizing) Congregation to be Silent during Preaching, Congregation must bow their heads during the reading of the Holy Scripture... note Shouting or Clapping in the form of Stimming from an Autistic or Disabled Person is to Exempted and Tolerated!)
Weekly Communion but with a Strictly Fenced Table as Per Calvin's Institutes.
Strict and Total Forbiddance on LGBTQ+ individuals even being allowed into the Church Building unless they Repent, Believe the Gospel, get saved, and become Single and Celibate, or, by Miracle of God, as it can and does sometimes Happen as He wills, Heterosexual.
Strict Biblical Separation, only Fellowshipping with Reformed/Calvinian Churches.
Strictly Pro-Life Politics.
Strictly Pro-Israel Politics, the Church is Grafted into the Israel of God, it has not replaced it.
Strict Views that CRT, Feminism, Liberalism, and other such forms of Secular Political Rhetorics beinng viewed the Doctrines of Demons and are to be Shunned to the uttermost by the Church!
Political conservatism with State being Subservient to the Reformed Church as per the Long Parliament and the Puritans (Moderate Christian Nationalism)
A Future Pope who is none other than Caesar Nero Raised from the Dead (Nero Redivivus) as Antichrist, Rome as the Whore of Babylon and Mother of Harlots.
Pre-Millennial Eschatology. Unsure however on Either Historic "Endure to the last Day" Pre-Millennialism, or Pre-Tribulation Rapture as taught, to my Surprise, by Saint Irenaeus of Lyon. However, Eschatology being a very Doubtful Disputation indeed and a Secondary Issue at most.
Yes, I do often get accused of Legalism, but that is because I have a Fiery Zeal for God, and am heavily inspired by John MacArthur, Robert Charles Sproul Sr, Voddie Baucham, Justin Peters, James Inell Packer, Arthur Walkington Pink (who I am convinced was on the Autism Spectrum like I am), Jon Edwards, George Whitefield, Augustus Toplady, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, John Charles Ryle, John Newton, John Owen, Jeremiah Burroughs, John Knox, John Calvin, Thomas Cranmore, and Saint Augustine of Hippo. Old School Reformed basically!
@@robertmiller1299 like the late Queen’s Chaplain Gavin Ashenden,
I left the Episcopal Church (American Anglican) over 20 years ago, when they consecrated an openly and actively gay minister to be the Bishop in my diocese (New Hampshire). Apart from one funeral, I have not stepped foot in that church since.
I didn't leave the church - it left me.
I left theEpuscopal Church too. I am now a born again Christian. It saddens that the church has now embraced worldly princans and has turned its back on the Bible.
The church has always been there for sinners. But sinners are supposed to repent and change, not change the church to allow the sin.
I never thought of it that way, you're correct.
The Church of England gave up on the gospel and now believes in unicorns and rainbows
True this is why are no longer going to Church. I mean my local church in Thurmaston, Leicestershire couldn't care less about its people.
The Cof E always believed in unicorns and rainbows. Not a real church. Read Vatican II
Those who wed the spirit of the present age would be widowed in the next
The rainbow is in the bible, the sign to remind God not to flood the world again. I think unicorns are mentioned twice.
You are correct
I retired from active C of E ministry 3 years ago. Since retiring I have held the Bishop's licence to preach and lead services. When LLF was introduced I returned my licence and told the Bishop that I wish to resign from ministry as a result of LLF
Good on you. I do not know if I will stay with the Church of England, but would be good to state that as the reason. For me I can’t see any other reason to want to leave.
Bless you for taking a stand and sticking to your conviction.
Our vicar felt convicted to leave the Church of England... he has just finished his gardening leave and is now allowed to lead our new church - Christ Church South Devon as from this Sunday! We hope to come under the 'Anglican Mission in England' Diocese which is holding fast to doctrinal truths and is linked with GAFCON... representing 80% majority of Anglicans worldwide. We are really looking forward to coming under Godly, respectable Bishops and happy that our vicar will now find support from a network of likeminded leaders rather than adversity at every turn!
Is that Paignton? I am in Torquay! 🌞
You made the right move, in God's providence. The Church of England has decided to follow the gods of personal peace and affluence; they have made a truce with the world instead of running the race of faith and standing against the powers and principalities.
Sounds good
I made that move here in France and am part of the embryonic AMiE church here. The best thing spiritually I have done in my 71 years of belonging to the C of E. Blessings to you and follow your heart and Scripture. Chris x
Where in south Devon are you?
Less than 7% of People are dictating to the other 93%..
It’s Soo Heartbreaking, Our God knows what’s in your heart Reverend.. Dan… Keep on the Armour of God! 🙏🏻
Not as much as 7%; it's just 1.5%
keep on your armour and fight for the truth of the gospel.
The church was infiltrated back in the day of Christ. False prophets with their doctrines of demons have deceived many the apex of which "strong delusion" will culminate in the "revealing" of the man of sin. (2 Thess 2) And the whole world will follow after the beast (Rev 13.3), which is the soul object of "the church", which is now dovetailing into ecumenism, or "the golden age of lucifer" on the earth.
@@godisreality7014 some say the beast is Islam..
@@speaktruth9313 Esau ("the jew") utilizing Ishmael ("the muslim") against the Children of Jacob-israel, who are still scattered. The pertinent questions are: who starts the wars and who prints the money? And the answer is not Ishmael. Nor is it Jacob-Israel ("white trash").
When looking for a new church, the Anglican were not even on the list, I will not sit under false teachers who celebrate the works of the flesh and call it the fruit of the spirit.
Return home dear prodigal son : to the orthodox Church.
@@Hope_Boat the Orthodox have a bad understanding of human nature, sin, the atonement and do not do systematic theology.
@@jonathankotyk3075 Thank you brother for seeing the speck in our eye. You are right we are focused on conserving the orthodox faith, sacraments, liturgy, rather that thinking about complicated matters.
Also we are aware of our intellectual limits and and maybe that's why we refrained to judge others as heretics and burn them alive. Also we are too limited to move the other direction and we do not dare to kiss the Quran. I am a simple orthodox christian and I don't have a clue about human nature, sin, the atonement and do not do systematic theology. That's why I follow what the Holy Fathers told us, as they knew better that us. I just pray the Lord to forgive my sins.
Kyrie eleison.
@@Hope_Boat Amen!
@@Hope_Boat the Orthodox has the same internal conflict one finds within Catholicism and Protestantism, my issue is when any church teaches anything contrary to Scripture, and certain things taught within Orthodoxy scratch them from my list. Ancestral sin for instance is not consistent with Scripture.
Continued prayers for you Rev Dan as you hold fast to God's word. I trust you know God's blessing and strength as you stay true to your calling. Be assured that despite the challenges you face you are an encouragement to many.
Thanks!
@@monoinglesWould you consider the steps of Gavin Ashenden and Michael Nazri-Ali?
@@jeremiahong248 Anyone who joins Rome has joined the Whore of Babylon and the Mother of Harlots, has surrendered to the Antichrist (the Pope) and has proven themselves to be Apostate, Unsaved, and Never known by Christ. See the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith. I am sorry to be so Condemning, but, the 1646 Westminster Confession is Clear on that, and I dare not go against it!
I am a Roman Catholic, a lay person. I disregard totally all messages that are against the doctrine of the church. I got to mass receive Holy Communion and pray putting my faith in God.
Reverend Dan pray, put your faith and trust in God and ask Him for guidance. He is the only one we answer to. And in all honesty follow your heart. Something that you already know, anyway.
I shall remember you in my prayers.
But you're aware that the current pope seems determined to turn the Catholic Church into a woke liberal church and has recently approved the blessing of same se couples, even though the Vatican offers us a highly convoluted explanation as to why this is not the case.
@@patrickcarey5318 He needs to go . The church had a good leader in Pope Benedict . But , many of the priests were not good either with money or with children . I feel Catholics need to leave Vatican 2 wich has been a disaster. And return to the Latin Mass and all that entailed
@@patrickcarey5318 of course I am fully aware of where the current pope is leadind the Church therefore I am not even listening to him.
@patrickcarey5318 The so-called blessing is for individual souls not as a couple. So don't misrepresent the Fiducia Supplicans.
What this lovely Priest is talking about is the same thing we are experiencing in the Catholic Church. Isolated. One foot in front of the other; remain true to Apostolic teaching.
Do take care of yourself. You are important in the grand scheme of things, and there is no point in running yourself into the ground! Hopefully you will find support from under, and alongside, rather than over. God bless you.
Well, this is pure pride. There is, as we all know, a fall coming. I've heard of this before. It will collapse.
Bless you Dan. Hold fast
Leaving the CofE and joining the Free Church of England was the best decision I ever made.
Apart from asking her to marry you! 😁
You are a BLESSING to soo many, I wish I lived closer to your Church!
God Bless and give you Grace and Strength!
Jenny ✝️🙏🏻
You made the right decision. The Church of England has gone over the precipice into outright paganism, and has left orthodox Christianity behind. They are mockers of God and no place for Christians to receive and live out discipleship.
Return to the One True Church established by Jesus Christ.
@@chucklumb3500 Well yes I can happily go along with that although to date I'm not sure I have detected in Brett a desire to become a Baptist pastor ...
We have similar issues in Finland, the biggest "national" church - the Lutheran Church in Finland - is leaving classical christianity and almost all priests are female priestess and most of them are woke liberal teologians so they have started to bless same sex marriages even if it's not allowed by the official churches dogma but the bishops have decided that they will not take actions against woke priests. Many real biblical christians are confused and they feel they have no place in that church. Now all conservative and classical christians should cooperate and make contacts and ecumenical relationships internationally. Perhaps we could start a new biblical league or union of congregations and have some short of a new body of Christ and the real church.
Google Operation Reconquista :)
@@nupnorth be careful, this too is a false dialectic.
The uniformity of the great falling away proves it has been orchestrated for centuries from within. Wherever two or three are gathered together in His name, there are moles among them, like Judas. Messiah Jesus Christ always avoided crowds and seldom, if ever, spoke of a "church". And Peter most certainly is not the "rock" (Deut 32.31), only Messiah is the true rock and cornerstone. (Isaiah 28.16 etc) Messiah came to the individual as he was, ready to receive Him. So it is today. To be a true Christian you must take up your cross and follow only Him.
In Finland you lucky enough to have Orthodox Church of Finland that is not ordaining female priests and do no preach wordly doctrines. Time too come home to the Church established by Our Lord in Jerusalem and saint Peter in Antioch. Babylon is falling before you very eyes. "Come out of her my people" said the voice from heaven as saint John of Patmos told us.
Kyrie eleison.
@@Hope_Boat Does your church teach that Messiah is the "lion of the tribe of Judah"? and that Esau is the chosen people?
Pastoral Evangelist I "retired" in late 2021 but am very active in my new local church and am seeking to help people I meet to find Jesus. I have PTO in two dioceses as I live on the border, both with orthodox bishops. What we need to remember is that we must care for the people in our charge and not abandon them; let the hierarchy try and force us out rather than us quit. THEY are the ones at fault; THEY chose a course of action to divide the House of bishops, to divide synod, to divide parishes. As John Dunnett said, "they've thrown a grenade into every parish." So do we run away or take our stand? those bishops who are pursuing heresy will find it blowing up in their faces in the end. Jesus will build His church. Yes Rev Dan, there's lots of us who have little respect for erring bishops: Many years ago I said that my bishop always fulfils my expectations. I expect nothing. So found support and help via others, which helped me prosper in ministry and blessed the people. Bishops frankly are pretty irrelevant to the local church - I've been in parishes where they don't even know who the bishop is... But we are called to preach the gospel, in season and out of season: I've preached to more than 500 people in the last 8 weeks, probably 90% non churchgoers, at funerals, and some are starting to ask the questions of life. Handing in my PTO would leave them to the secular celebrants. So let's walk with The Lord while we can. Luther in the 1500s faced a monolithic monster in the then RC church; yet the Reformation swept the continent because when God is on the move no human being can stop Him. I'm praying for revival in our land, which comes through you and me, and it will leave the heretics high and dry....
As a pastor I understand what your saying but it’s so very hard to overcome leadership when they are basically backslid , I think the best course of action is to address the concerns of the leadership to your congregation and then turn in your credentials and start another work that aligns with the scriptures, you will have a core of believers with you and the financial support you are going to need to keep the work going , gather with you other pastors who are the same as you and just begin again
you are dealing in "the church" with the hierarchy of satan. If you come out of her (Rev 18.4), you can still help people.
The bishops it appears are leading the flock astray … I’ve yet to see a scriptural justification for LLF
There is none. Not one verse. We are to be sacrifically loving and compassionate, but Jesus also, having forgiven her sin after she repented at His feet, told her to "go and sin NO MORE." ( emphasis mine). Love come hand-in-hand with G-d's justness. Things often take time to change in people,,and G-d's longsuffering is great, but cups of sin will overflow, as Sodom and Gomorrah discovered, despite being given time to change.
Stay, or step, out of His Grace, and one will walk slap-bang into the Law and it's expectations - and demands for breaking it. Paul breaks it down in Romans 1-11.
But we have the Holy Spirit to help us change from glory to glory to become more like Jesus, *not Him become more like us or the World!* To try and shape Him to *our* image is simply wrong.
As Jeremiah was taught, the clay cannot tell the potter what it will be, and G-d, the Potter, doesn't make mistakes, no matter what.
Even cracked pots, like me, can let His light shine out.
@@chrismaguire3667 John 7:53-8:11 is spurious text. It is not in the earliest manuscripts we have but only appeared in later ones, no doubt added by someone who heard the "story" and found it rather nice and something Jesus might well say and do. However, regardless of the nice message it portrays, it was not penned by John. Research what I've said, you'll find it to be true.
@@TheRealPureBlood Well, it's not me you have to convince, is it. As Paul wrote, I know of what I am persuaded. He would have taken homosexual people outside of the city of Jerusalem, or wherever, and had them stoned to death, as a Pharisee.
After he came to Christ, he didn't. He repented and changed.
The John 8:1-11 is included in the text. Take it or leave it, but 'spurious'? It may have been 'added in' later as by someone as a 'nice story', but there it is. And why only in John? Do you think it's a gnosticism? If so, then why was it added?
If one agrees that the Holy Spirit is the final arbiter of Scripture, wouldn't one accept that it might be in the later manuscripts for a purpose?
After all, an adulterous woman, especially, would just as equally been dragged off to be stoned to death by those Pharisees and any other sinner who was 'caught in the act', according to the Law, but she wasn't. You know the story and the outcome.
Would you rather it be totally disregarded and left out altogether? Still, as I say, it's not me you need to convince in the end, is it? Shalom.
@@chrismaguire3667 If it were meant to be there, don't you think God would have inspired John to write it down in the first place? Or did God make an error? Did he forget? It's the Gospel according to John, not the Gospel according to John and some random bloke a few hundred years later.
The original King James version has many spurious verses which have been added later, often to back up a non-scriptural idea which suited the person adding it. Fortunately today, many Bible versions are omitting these dubious verses, including the passage from John 7:53 to 8:11.
@@TheRealPureBlood And many Bibles have other verses taken out over the centuries because they didn't fit the political or cultural milieu of the time. Indeed, the Book of Revelation was taken out of canonical Sceipture because it was deemed too fantastical, frightening, non-understandable and even too political to be in, but here we are, and good thing too!
So, what is your reason, your *real* reason, why you don't want it in? Really? I don't want an answer; as I wrote you, and others, have to answer to G-d the Father for yourself. And don't you think that the Holy Spirit can't use anything in Scripture to reach someone, in and out of the Church Politic, no matter the particular canonical translation?
This is my last word on this - I shan't reply to anything else on the topic. I shall simply wish you G-d's blessings, and we will be able to discuss this in due course under our fig trees when we meet in Glory. Shalom.
The Church of England has gone apostate. 😢😢😢
It must be extremely difficult to be a Church of England Priest in a Church which is becoming increasingly apostate and arguably unchristian.
I left the CofE last year having been baptized into the Scottish Episcopalian Church as a child 50 years ago.
I didn't leave the Church, my Christianity hasn't changed... the Church left me. The politicization, the assault on traditional values, the persecution of conservatives within the Church. The appointment of Bishops who have never been parish priests.
There are no GAFCON congregations near me or FCoE, I live in rural Northumberland. Fortunately Northumberland has an indigenous and ancient Catholic community which survived the tribulations of the last 500 years, so I became a Roman Catholic.
Now, the Roman Church is not without its challenges at the moment BUT the existence of the Magisterium makes it very difficult for the Vatican to make the sort of changes Welby does, which appear to mirror whatever The Guardian's pet project is at the time.
CofE --> Roman Catholic = Frying Pan --> Fire.
@TheRealPureBlood nope.. this won't happen. The current pope is an issue, he's tried to implement the same policy as the CofE but it falls very far shirt if what he wants to do. The Magisterium, of which there is no equivalent, in the Anglican Church, means it is very very difficult for a Pope to change things and certainly not quickly. Out of all the western Churches, the Catholic one is the best protected against wokeism, even if we have a socialist Pope, due to the structure of its governance. The big question will come at the next Conclave.
@@HarryFlashmanVC Not what I meant. The fact is that both the CofE and Catholicism are so riddled with false doctrines and traditions that neither of them have a good standing with God.
I hope your faith enriched and walk closer to God with all the sacraments. You are warmly welcome.
I cannot see how a Bible believing Christian can remain in the Church of England. Faithfulness to God is more important than faithfulness to an apostate institution.
The "church" has always been anti-Christ and the mask is now slipping.
Why not join us in the Catholic Church? Married, ordained C of E priests are always welcome, and not much training is needed as you already know your stuff!
You mean the Novus Ordo, not the Catholic Church. What would be the point of them doing that? The Novus Ordo is exactly the same, so they wouldn't even notice the difference.
They aren't welcome. Only through the ordinariate route.
You can conduct Baptisms but that's about it.
I think the Methodist church or Free church Emannuel is his best option
@@annamack5823 I think you mean the high C of E. Their "mass" apes the Novus Ordo or perhaps its visa versa.
Far from evident. Needs washing clean. As snow. ❤️🙏❤️
For an Anglican priest to join the Catholic Church, they must want to become Catholic; not just want to leave the CofE: this is true even for the ordinate.
Keep doing this channel. My dear late father joined the C of E in 1952 and died in office at a young age. He would be standing out against these leaders. We are in Bishop Martyn Snow's jurisdiction and last year left the C of E church . I am shocked at what he is now doing. Not a shepherd! Sad given his family background
I am a member of the CofE and blessed with a Bishop (Guildford) who holds to the authority of Scripture and the historic teaching of the church. Even so, how long can we stay in a church whose leadership, from the Archbishops downwards is, institutionally, leading us into grave error without any scriptural justification? The contortions the House of Bishops has been going through to promote same-sex marriage whilst pretending that it does not impact on the teaching on Holy Matrimony is indicative of a leadership that has lost its way. This doesn't end well for the CofE.
Was your bishop one of the four who voted against llf?
St Thomas Becket was martyred (violently murdered) in Canterbury Cathedral standing up to the Truth under the authority of God.
Pray to St Thomas for courage & strength. Take self inventory, sharing only with those who are trustworthy and hand all these human sufferings over to God. 🙏
If you worry about trust in the Bible please only pray to the Father through Jesus Christ. St Thomas can do nothing for you.
We are also told to pray to the Father in Jesus Name, because Jesus is our intercessor who sits on the right hand of God the Father interceding for we who believe. Nowhere in Scripture are we told to pray to a dead man, no matter whether he did a martr or not. Only God receives our prayers, through Jesus.
Jesus told us who to pray to, 'Our Father who art in heaven." Matthew 6:9-11
"There is one Mediator between God and man, the Lord Jesus Christ".
1 Timothy 2:5
"God is our refuge and strength, an ever present help in time of trouble." Psalm 46:1
God bless you and guide you into all Truth, Jesus. Much love and blessings. 🙏❤️
@@eshiestrik2756 Well put.
do what is the right thing to do.
We don't need to pray to "saints", we can pray directly to God and He will provide.❤
I now attend a Free Evangelical Church.
I now attend the Holy Orthodox Church
Yes, good for you! 🙏🏻
So do I, I have joined an active Elim church, which is strong and growing!
Thanks Dan tremendous videos and as a non Anglican you inform alot of us around these really complex and confusing issues. I wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury's office, with a very strong letter raising the issue that the hierarchy were heading into gross error away from the truth of scripture.
Rev Dan, interview Professor Rosaria Butterfield on your podcast!
She’s so knowledgeable and Loves The Lord God dearly!
I admire you greatly, God is our refuge and Our Strength!
I second this-Rosaria Butterfield is the genuine article and her testimony makes for a gripping and inspiring story of God's active grace in our lives through Christ.
I really do sympathise with your situation. It sounds painful and awkward. I feel your bishops have gone rogue rather than you. Remaining faithful to God must be difficult and this must make it even more so. Regular social meetings with other ministers might help you feel less alone in your struggle to find balance but your bishops owe you loyalty as much as you do to them, imo. Take strength from the Lord and know that you are on the right path.
I can't understand how any vicar with any level of integrity could serve under some of the bishops we have today. How did a man who is not only divorced, but also a vocal supporter of what is detestable to God, be evn considered for such a position? Even if the barrel were being scraped, surely they could have found someone setting a better example.
I’m not surprised Archbishop Welby has destroyed the church as far as I’m concerned.
But he cannot destroy the Orthodox Church and that is where many of us are taking flight to ☦
Yes, Welby has a lot to answer for, a traitor ?
I belong to a church in the Gafcon Diocese of the Southern Cross Brisbane, Australia, and we have doubled in size in one year! We are starting to get total non believers attending with friends. It is very exciting to be in Gafcon! Our pastor left our very liberal Diocese, took a big risk with his income, but one year on, we have moved into "mission" mode!
You are lucky enough to have lots of Greek orthodox parishes in Australia. Come out of Babylon and come back home to the ancient Church established by our Lord Jesus in Jerusalem and saint Peter in Antioch.
The one holy Catholic and apostolic awaits you.
Really? you mean with the marxist gay loving, bible hating pope? How so?
Not too fast. I don't know which side to choose, east or west. And now the west is splitting in gay or not gay.
I am delighted to be a part of the Free Church of England. Everyone is welcome at Christ Church in Harlesden, NW10 8UG. Sunday service 10am. Lovely Christian atmosphere and flock, wonderful Fr Calvin Robinson currently Minister in Charge. Please join us and be true to scripture as you worship.
It is so sad but the writing has been on the wall for a long time. No unity can exist when Truth has been manipulated to the point of becoming deliberate deception. "A house divided against itself cannot stand".
The devil said to the church, "I don't like you".
The church said, "I can change".
Not the orthodox Church. We never change.☦
I left the Anglican church in Australia. Now I attend two orthodox churches, one in the Reformed tradition, one in the pentecostal tradition. There's lots of orthadoxy outside of the Anglicans.
Praise the Lord☦
IC XC
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☦CHRIST IS RISEN
I would love it if, when you refer to an article or document in the video, you gave a link to them in either the description or a pinned comment. Thanks for your great work and God bless you.
I have just done it! I was in a rush to get to our youth group earlier!
Christians who stay true to the Gospel have, and always will adapt and stay resolute against a society determined to undermine and destroy Christian values etc.
We shouldn't feel the need to be loyal to some brick and mortar building, or denomination just because it's close to our hearts and has sentimental value. Instead, our loyalty should be towards our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus not CofE. Because He is eternal, our local parish isn't.
If these institutions no longer preach the true Gospel, then quite frankly, the quicker they crumble, the better.
A new church with a real Bible believing congregation will rise from the rubble of what's left of the CofE.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree: he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon." Psalm 92:12
God bless you all.
From South Africa: It was with surprised that through watching your blog as a Catholic lay person it was apparent that the blessing of same sex unions or irregular unions has been dictated to us as well. Many of us as Catholics cannot square this blessing on request for those in this type union, (we cannot call it marriage, it is not)
As you have mentioned: biblically it is clear these unions are not justified nor permitted . At the end of Mass there is a general blessing of congregant's, no one knows what moral state we are in.
Having two family members who are priest, I would say to you do not leave, just say to those who request a blessing: " go to Mass, we do the blessings at the end of mass".
Your ending "Quietly Quitting The Church of England" don't do what Catholics bishops did in England at the the time of king Henry VIII.
God Bless you Sir, your family and parishioners , your sincerity in doing the right thing is evident.
And as bishops slip into apostasy, the sheep are not being fed.
Well said
Babylon is falling. "Come out of her my people" said the voice from heaven. It's time to be insightful and return to the true one Church that never changed according to the times.
Kyrie eleison.
As the late Billy Graham once said: "When you join the perfect church it is no longer perfect."
No danger of the C of E falling into that category
So pleased I joined the Roman Catholic Church. Come home Rev. Dan. God Bless.
To the Roman Church blessing same sex relationships...
@@nuns8126 Pope Francis is a closet liberal protestant
RCChurch with its pontifex maximus has been apostate for 1650 years. They add stuff to the word of God
From a blackened pan to a blackened pot.
Its not only the CoE, its every church, including Vatican, Mormon, JW, or the corner pop-up church run by a Nigerian 'pastor'. God will honor you for your courage and moral conviction. Stand strong, tougher times are coming. I respect you for your courage to do what is right, even though it may cause tough times. God has no use for cowards - He needs men (and women) like you. May God bless you with courage, strength, wisdom and all your physical needs. You made my day, thank you!
I left the CoFE last year and have been received into the Orthodox Church, the UK’s original tradition.
There are many of us who are moving to the Eastern Orthodox Church at the moment, thank you for your encouragement ☦☦☦
My grandparents left the C of E in the early 1900! They joined the congregatiomal church. My late dad grew up in the congregational church so did we.
Blessings Dan
Here's a bit of my story. Wonderfully converted at the age of 20 in 1980 in Inner city Birmingham God led me to Christchurch Summerfield, in Edgbaston. I was not from a church background. The vicar was a good man, born-again and evangelical; great; I was growing, etc. One Sunday after about 6 months I visited my mother on Sunday morning and so happened to watch Songs of Praise (or something similar) on tv. An interview was going on with some bishop called David Jenkins. As I watched and listened I was both amazed and horrified
at what he was saying re not believing in the physical resurrection etc. I left the Anglican Church 5 years later. I always felt sorry for that vicar and angry at the archbishop etc. for not doing their jobs and throwing out the wolves.
There are Reformed Anglican churches in the United States that are conservative and 100% follow the scriptures. Praying for you. You are not alone!
Surely Vicars are in a powerful position … to PREACH the word of God. THIS IS contending. I understand the quandary over the structure of authority. But ultimately we are each under Christ. Stay focused on Him and stay faithful to Him. God will make the way.
God will make a way - but clergy aren't always in a powerful position because revisionist bishops and archdeacons and the like can use their 'flying monkeys' and 'enablers' in parishes and benefices to thwart orthodox ministers.
@@davidrudd2215 That sounds awful. I suppose what I am thinking is that vicars have the power of the pulpit. If they preach faithfully and true, then their flocks ( even though they are technically the bishops’ flocks) will thrive. My husband and I moved from Aldershot( where we were blessed with wonderful preaching and doctrinally sound anglicans) to Norfolk, which is quite different… revisionist stronghold I would say… we have heard some really wishy washy preaching… and poor discipling. But God is good. He has moved the vicar on, who had arrived just before us, in a way that was completely unexpected. He WILL make a way for His people if we stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths; ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and we will find rest for our souls Jer 6v16.
@@kathrynvessey4659 I do agree that God will make a way, but (without saying too much!) a revisionist hierarchy really can and do make life difficult.
This popped up and I don't know why (I'm Jewish) , but what matters is what G-d says, not what people say, what does the bible say? What does G-d think about this problem. What happened when Avraham went with the angels to rescue Lot....What did the angel do to Sodom and Gomorrah?
I gave you a like 😎
Who is G-d? 🤔
A few Anglican clergymen became Antiochian Orthodox when they felt this way in the past..
I think they are not disappointed.
People, have we forgotten the Pharisees during Jesus time? They are still around we under test, who do you obey?
Westminster Abbey used to be a Benedictine Abbey before King Henry 8th. Frankly, most of Cathedrals in England were Catholic Cathedrals until Henry the 8th.
Mate, the C of E has been going this way for years. When an evangelical incumbent is succeeded by a lesbian living with her girlfriend - with a resulting decimation of the church. And since when have bishops pastored their clergy? In which year did your phone ring with a bishop saying 'how are you?'
I agree. It is all a theater for control.
The Lord Jesus Christ bless you, Rev Dan. And God bless your family, and all you meet and come in contact with.
I believe we are in the final days before Christ comes. “Those who endure to the end will be saved.”
please explain why is the LLF . . .
Thank you for the content
We are only answerable to God .Talk to God the creator and you will get answered no sincere prayer goes unanswered imo.God Bless you.🙏💕😢💔
In Canada some vicars leave the church and take some parishioners with them and set up on their own in A house the parishioners all club together and bring food etc to help them get started.
We joined the Anglican Network in Canada in 2009 which is part of Anglican Church of North America because the Anglican Church of Canada walked away from biblical truth
It must be that schisms will come in order that those approved will become manifest.
I am not in CoE so dont understand all the hierarchy and structure. Looking from the outside, I have to say that if the bishops truly wanted to care for those who cannot go along with LLF they could have done so by now. I think that having not got anywhere so far is telling. Is it possible they are hoping you will get weary and give up? Whatever the situation, the time is coming when folk will have to decide. The status quo 4ight now is totally destructive. My prayers are with you Rev Dan, & those others in your position.
If you look into the scriptures you will see there is no hierachy in Christianity. We have one head of the Congregation, Jesus Christ. He said that there is but one Teacher, the rest of us are all brothers. Always remember: _There is no heirachy in the Christian congregations!_ Sure, there are brothers who take the lead (no females) but they follow scriptural direction, not their own personal thoughts.
I gave up on the CoE - as I could see that the liberals have taken over and this gay blessings was one of the final straws. I joined the Ordinariate - you get old fashioned Anglican liturgy - and I had a very warm welcome indeed. I commend it to you.
I just left the Ordinariate and joined the Holy Orthodox Church - you get old fashion Apostolic/post Apostolic liturgy - and I had a very warm welcome indeed. I very much commend it to you.
The RC Anglican ordinariate is under pope Francis. The heretic who blesses same sex relationships. Please jump out of that mess.
Come inquire at the Orthodox Christian Church.
Dan. We are praying for you. Hold fast. Remember who your anchor is...
The COE has shot itself in the foot it has no creadibility, I'll leave it there.!
What can anyone expect of a “Church” that was founded by a Freemason King Henry VIII who wanted a divorce from his wife and the Catholic Church said no? Just return to the only Church that holds the truth. Help those of us in the remnant Church as we watch our beloved Church collapse under satanic forces, however we know Christ will never allow his pilgrim church in earth to fall entirely. We have that promise.
For centuries now this church has changed the rules that are set in stone by our King Jesus Christ and this is how this Church was formed. Take the only true path and end the division.
I’m an American and used to be an Episcopalian, but I had to leave the church because I watched the church going the way of John Spong
I enjoyed seeing our local minister in the cafe. I wonder if more street preaching and public prayers in cafes might be a good idea.
what i think its interesting here... and I've said this to others before, is that when CoE priests go out in their collars, when people see them in cafes etc, this uniform invites conversation and is a very useful tool of outreach that doesn't require a whole lot of prep. I say this because my Anglican ministers wear "normal" clothes all the time, and I cant help but think that if they wore their collars at the petrol station and the coffee shop (and at church!) this would be a very important witness to the world.
The day after my mum died, my wife dragged me to the church she had just started to attend. I was an atheist at the time and she didn't want me to be at home alone; I didn't want to go but went because she insisted! During the whole service I was saying things to myself about the guy leading the service. They weren't good things as you could imagine! After the service, my wife brought the vicar over to introduce him to me. The vicar wasn't the same guy leading the service. I was hating on the wrong guy, all because the vicar didn't wear a dog collar! That was an important lesson to me, long before I became a vicar myself!
@DavidMartin-ym2e @monoingles @HenryLeslieGraham I can say, as a curate I was expected to create some new form of ministry and mission during my curacy. I came up with Local Pub Ministry! Both myself and the other curate would head down to the pubs in town, twice a week, wearing our collars but with 'ordinary' clothes, walk in and order a couple of drinks. Before I became a Christian I was a pagan and used to drinking in pubs! We would sit down and it wouldn't be long before people would come and chat to us. Surprisingly, perhaps, no one was abusive. It was one of the most enjoyable and rewarding forms of ministry. People sometimes even offered to buy us a drink. I remember one chap who was drowning his sorrows after losing his wife and whose funeral we had taken the week before. He was so glad to see us and we managed to have a good chat with him and we kept in touch. If we had not been there, this would not have happened. It is an area of ministry that I still try and engage with. I will always wear my collar when visiting cafes, pubs, clubs, etc, because as you say, people like to see that and they will often ask for prayers or a blessing - simply because we are there and available and appear normal!
If I may ask. What was your take away/lesson from that? Rev Dan?
I’m imagining it was a bit more than judging a book by its cover?
but I think we are all blessed by the fact that you went to church that day even though it was very difficult under extraordinary circumstances.
But the Lord in His wisdom uses all things to reach out to us his lost sheep. Truly He loves us all
I dont follow any "organized "Religion anymore...Hebrews; chp.8..verses10 /13. .I do enjoy following Rev Dan... thanks..
Start a Home Church just as modeled in the Book of Acts.
Clearest argument for the disestablishment of church and state. The benefits and status of a marriage should be defined by the state. Then groups can determine their own rules outside of that framework and individuals can decide whether or not to join such groups.
I would recommend you to come to the Catholic church. You can be a priest there even if you are married in this special case.
Aren't they going the same way.The pope is apostate😢
@@user-qb1qr1sh5t The pope called the gender ideology the ugliest danger of this time and ha says abortion is like hiring a hitman. Most news about what the pope says is just taking everything out of context and misrepresenting the Catholic teachings.
@@user-qb1qr1sh5t The pope is just a man. He can't change the doctrines of the church.
We gone off the rails since ordaining women etc
This!! Totally agree.
And there's a simple solution. If women are taking the lead in any way, leave! Any denomination which has females leading the congregation is going against the word of God. There is no debating this as 1 Timothy 2:11, 12 makes it clear, as does 1 Corinthians 14:33-35. Let them have their God-dishonouring practices while you get yourself away from it all, away from these apostate styles of faith which God groups under the name of Babylon the Great.
You ordained women because you had *already* gone off the rails.
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Am laughing. As a fulfilled, female, Anglican, priest, I know how much we have given to the church. We love God, we are filled with the Spirit, and we lead others to Christ in our own way. Blessings!
People need constancy in these changing times - not bishops keeping up with trends which go against the words of the bible. Being a vicar is hard enough without being forced to speak with forked tongue or resign. We all know the de-stabilisation of institutions of trust is the agenda but I don't understand what leverage is being used against the bishops. What's next, inclusion of MAPs?
Mat.12: 25-26 came to my mind while listening to you Dan. How can God bless the Cof E when as an organisation it is flouting what God has has clearly said. I feel for you and other faithful members of your denomination.
Absolutely. Like many no doubt, we feel on a knife edge, not knowing which way the leadership team will go, but expecting them to go down the route of LLF. Our last village Church is doing the resigned but still operating within the CofE thing. We are worshipping and members now returned to the town by moving closer after 18 months out (back in the village after 11 years worshipping in the town). We go because our family are worshipping there but know that sadly it cannot last and are members of our previous small group but members at arm's length because sooner or later we will have to leave the CofE. We are disgusted that the majority of the Bishops have chosen to go with the (unbiblical) pastoral decision, rejecting the Biblical truth and deeply and disastrously dividing the Church.
A sea of confusion. Part the waters and walk tbrough to the one true Catholic and apostolic church .
The Bishop of Leicester wants to keep as many people in the church as possible. Then go back to the old ways!!!
Im shattered over the Archbishop of Canterbury destruction of our beloved church of England
I no longer attend the Anglican Church in Australia, even though community is important how do you stay in a church which goes directly against the teachings of the bible? Is this part of the great falling away that is prophesied? When does a christian stop being a christian? We can do all the good works under the sun, but if we don’t believe Gods words then are we the strange fire that God does not accept?
Susan, come out of her, that you partake not of her sins and receive not of her plagues. Rev 18.3
the true sheep are few and far between. And false teachings are the lynchpin of false x-tianity.
Once there's a vacuum left spiritually and the church loses sight of it core beliefs its going to crumble. Yet other faith systems will fill that vacuum that's anti Christianity .May our God give you wisdom and strength and keep your family safe in jesus name amen
A few years ago.... George Macdonald left the Scottish church. And Jesus allows it. We need to grow closer to Him, not get perfect in keeping our own rituals.
How can you quietly quit when you are broadcasting it to the whole world on UA-cam?
I have found the Reformed Presbyterian church to be the closest to following the Bible amongst many I tried out, & have been so happy with their doctrine & preaching. I was brought up in the Free Evangelical church in England, then when in Australia we went to Baptist churches. As a teen I left the church, but God was faithful & brought me back in my early 30’s. I went to Pentecostal/Charismatic churches for a while, but found too much false teachings in them, & never agreed with the ‘prosperity gospel’. God miraculously led me to a Presbyterian minister, who confirmed all that I’d been reading in many books I felt God had led me to read. I only wanted the TRUTH. I prayed & begged God to lead me to ONLY the truth, over & over again. I did not want to be deceived. That was my heart’s desire - only His truth. Years later, I still feel the Reformed Presbyterian church is as close as we’ll get here on earth. No church is perfect because we’re all sinners in a fallen world. However, I know I have found my earthly spiritual church here & the teaching is so solid, biblical, & not watered down. I praise my Lord Jesus Christ. 💙🙏✝️🇬🇧🇦🇺
I am not a practising Christian but just someone who studies the Bible and it baffles me how these people and you may I add can stay with a organisation that contradicts what almighty God has ordained .
Good for you. Keep thinking like that and you'll eventually find the true Christians. The moment someone tries to teach you something which is not in line with scripture, leave and look elsewhere. When you ask a question, make them answer you using the Bible. Their own personal thoughts and doctrines are irrelevant.
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thanks for the advice, who in your opinion or which organisation comes closest to the truth ?
@@peter3835 Good question....to which I do have the answer. However, there's an opportunity here to let your faith be well boosted.
In all faith and sincerity, ask God to show you. Reference my comment in your prayers if you want to and ask him - no, beg him - if what I am telling you is the truth and is in line with his will, to make it known to you, to send someone to you, or for you to meet someone who will tell you about it. If what I say is true, and you petition God with all sincerity, then it will happen. When you do speak with someone, show them my post and ask if they agree with it. Don't search for the person/people, God WILL make them known to you. Just keep asking, show your faith in him by continually asking him for direction. He'll see your persistence and he WILL answer you.
I could tell you, but if you do it this way and come back to me and I agree with your findings, what a boost that will be for both you and me! You might think it's a cop-out from me but it's not. I'm doing it this way so that no one can influence your opinion. No matter which faith/denomination I might mention, there would be dozens trying to put you off each one. Please, rely on God. To those who genuinely seek him, he WILL make himself known. ☺
Well, maybe Almighty God, the true God, did not "ordain" it. Real Sheep are hard to come by and false teachers are ubiquitous.
@@peter3835 The hierarchy of satan rules the earth, including the "church", which IS "the state". Messiah was even tempted by satan, who said, "bow down to me and I will give you all of this".
I refer to day 5 of the DIVINE MERCY NOVENA as taught by Jesus to St Faustina that reads....Those who have separated themselves from my Church cause me the greatest passion. Jesus asks that we pray for those souls that they be reunited with His Church.
I think ministers whe fear becoming 'lone wolves' if they in practice move out from being under a bishop who is in favour of LLF have inverted who the real wolves are, namely the bishop.
Not only that as shepherds of the local flock they are obligated to guard the flock from these wolves, not submit to them. What is the point of following the bishops into same deception they are in themselves?
This past Sunday our parish screened The Philadelphia Eleven. The film explored the issues of God/Father, the whiteness and maleness of the church in the 1970’s. The support for the Philadelphia Eleven were supported by the Black Panthers and a gay coalition. What emerged was that we are all children of God. Being inclusive is loving. Jesus’ love is about loving people where they are. I hold the Church of England in my prayers. All denominations evolve as the culture evolves. Schism is not the answer.
I wonder where these "new" doctrines "emerged" from.
Two passages from Matthew 7. Verses 13-14, the narrow gate. Verses 15-20 A tree and it's fruit. 'A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.'
Jeremiah 2:13 speaks of the apostasy within the Church 'broken cisterns that can hold no water. Verse 19 also states 'Your evil will chastise you, and your apostasy will reprove you.'
Revelation 3 speaks of the Church of Laodicea. Laodicea in greek means opinions. Verses 15-18 is an accurate summation of the state of the church.
As someone who was baptised into the Church of England in 1962, I have read my bible and that is the guidance I need. I left my church because what I was hearing in a sermon, wasn't doctrine, and I often disagreed with what was being said as relates to scripture. Hebrews 5 verse 12-13.
The warning come out of her means the "church". I´ve been reading my Bible for 10 years now and with the help of the holy spirit have been learning much more now than I ever learned at church. They have the keys to go in, but they neither enter, nor do the false teachers want their sheep to go through. Luke 11.52
I would say that the action of those Bishops make your oath null and void. To uphold your oath to an antichrist goes against God.
Why have vicars started to call themselves priests? Are they Protestants or Roman Catholics?
The Church of England will return to the Mother Church where it belongs: The Catholic Church.
England was Catholic before King Henry the 8th.
“To be deep in history is to cease to be protestant.” - John Henry Newman-
England had its own church long before Roman Catholicism came to this isle.We should go back to the Celtic church.
Good to hear your WORD! I am Catholic but essentially a Christian - follower of JC hopefully Chosen by him to be so. What is L?LF. Surely not all the bishops can be in agreement with what you don't? It suggests them believing the human is over the devine. Adamants? - is almost imputed or computed.
It is a bad representation to the country when they see the Archbisop and other bishops supposedly representing christianity in this country with the stuff that they do. Not only do they rattle christianity but give licence to the world to act accordingly.
Anglican church is simply Catholicism lite.
Church of England Ministers truly representing Jesus and congregations are welcome to pray in the Catholic Church in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
Your prayers will enter into a much deeper personal union with the presence of Jesus before you.
It's amazing, it is as if I was listening to a Roman Catholic priest who is rightly disappointed by the current pontificate. It is as if the wicked leaders of both churches deliberately synchronised their evil agenda. This cannot be a coincidence, Mr Bergoglio, and Mr Welby know what they are doing and whose servants they are, and their master can only be one who hates Jesus Christ of Nazareth and despises His Sacrifice.
It's certainly not a coincidence, since both the CofE and the Novus Ordo are Protestant "churches". Why would you expect them to be different? All Protestantism is of the Devil.
Quietly leaving only enables the clergy. If you all walked out ensemble at the same weekend those church leaders would have no people to justify holding their positions.
I left the Anglican communion years ago (I am now Muslim), but I still feel great pain when I see the institution imploding with such speed. Has there ever been such a collapse in the history of Christianity? Do the bishops not fear the wrath of God descending on them because of what they have done? Will there be no punishment for the mass conversion to woke narcissism?
Christ is calling you back to your first love. There are churches in the UK that are real churches of Christ Jesus and not synagogues of Satan. Repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand!
Very sorry to hear you have left the fold of Jesus. And you really say your first love Jesus ,is not God? How do you reconcile yourself to this grave mistake and blasphemy against Jesus the Savior of the world, the one who suffered and bled and died for your salvation? Are you really for 72 virgins for martyrdom..imagine the virgin as she learns she needs to give sex for eternity.. how could you trade this for Jesus… oh the very thought that you could leave Jesus who loves you so much and gave himself for you!
Surely it is true that you never even knew Him.
Punishment and judgement is coming sadly. But also to others who turn from truth.
Will the last person out of the anglicans please turn of the light .