This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 60-part teaching series Foundations: An Overview of Systematic Theology. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series...
Let us not forget that In Isaiah 64:6 we read that” But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags”. We believers are Justified, sanctified and eventually at His coming, will be glorified, all done by the grace of our LORD. Hallowed be Your Holy name, for ever and ever. Amen.❤️✝️🙏📖
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When you really love someone you listen to them (and not only on Sunday); you want to know them better with each passing day. You care about what they care about: what makes them happy, sad or angry. If someone disrespects them you rise to their defense. You delight in them and all that they do and you never EVER misquote them, use them or their words to satisfy your needs or to win an argument; only to abandon them when they are no longer needed.... Why do so many who call themselves Christians, treat God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as if they are nothing more than a napkin that they pick up when they need one, and discard when they don't?
They're not born-again and given a new nature. T hey have mot been translated from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of His dear Son. The LORD will say to them in that day "Depart from me, I NEVER knew you".
The biblical definition of love changes depending on your place in God's hierarchy. God > Jesus > Man > Women > children > animals Loving those higher than you is: Obeying (John 14: 15) "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." Loving those lower than you is: Patience and kindness, etc. (1 Cor 13: 4-7) "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
Thank you Dr sproul for such a beautiful message.. 🙏🏽✝️i am from India, one fine day when the Lord times is ready i will meet you up there there in Heaven.
Sadly this man died of COPD R.C. and John MacArthur didn't believe exactly the same. But they had great respect for each other Their Q n A's are Epic to listen to
And sometimes it really becomes difficult and confusing . The HYPER GRACE theology I get. When Watching Pilgrims progress I see Pilgrim running from his own family. Our LORD Jesus said He came to bring a sword and not peace in a man's own household. It seems to me, a very thin line. Both my son and daughter got married in a catholic church, I disagreed. We both grew up in this American Christianity. I'm convinced otherwise. And I read The SCRIPTURES and find no commen ground with my wife. Don't get me wrong she has great theology. But seems to say she has peace with God and yet when our kids come by, all she seems to express, is to make sure they are happy. They talk about the next best thing.
A question of logic - I understand that if you’re converted you will change, but if you find yourself changing what assurance is there that the change is the result of conversion?
For me , The conversion was not the change. The change was when I realised I wanted to be converted. Conversion or not , logically your trying to change regardless , your actions will tell . I've found dry fasting extremely powerful, to get closer to god .
John, you make an excellent point. I have worked in small country churches. Many of the members have gone to church their whole life and Many are "saved" young but then in later life, end up questioning their born-again salvation experience. If I understand your question in light of my previous statement: what is the difference between friut of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer and the actions of an unsaved person who, because of close proximity to, and constant exposure of, godly people and biblical teaching over time acts like a believer? Is this an accurate way to word your question? Both look to be "biblical" but one is being "changed" by the Power of God. Would it be accurate to say that the unsaved one is being changed by his own will power or by societal pressure to conform to an acceptable standard? As a pastor, one of my greatest challenges, is to not make the saved think themselves lost and not cause the lost to think themselves are saved. In my personal experience, I was saved at 28, and therefore had a LOT of worldly baggage. You would had to look closely for friut. But if you looked closely, you would have seen change. Love of the Word of God, conviction over ungodly actions AND thoughts, desire to be around other believers and a want to go to church and worship. BUT all of the so called outward evidence can be evidences of how you were raised and not proof of the work of the Holy Spirit. Would you say this is close to what you are asking?
I ges the very confusing part of this to me is that he say sanctification is nessisary for salvation and that God does his part and we do our part. Then he said several times that our part is work. Just dont see how that is not teaching works rightiosnes then.
God does His part in Justification and we do our part with the help of the Holy Spirit in sanctification. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
@paulbaran4796 yes, but my point is, sproul, mcarther, and others say our part is hard, work, dificult etc. And they say that without that one is not saved, but then on the other hand they will say of course salvation is all God's work I think that where many get confused.
being very basic here, fruit generally represents behavior. Just as an example, this is what happened to me before and after I was saved: before, never felt guilty after sinning or the need to repent, never read the Bible, never prayed, never actively tried to cut sin out of my life, or even thought about doing so. After, now I feel the full weight of conviction of my own sinfulness and repent anytime I sin, whether in thought or in action (John 16 : 8, Matthew 3 : 8), now I read my Bible every single day (2 Timothy 3 : 16-17, Hebrews 4 : 12), now I pray constantly (Luke 18 : 1, 1 Thessalonians 5 : 17), now I work constantly to try and reduce the sin in my life (Romans 8 : 13, Ephesians 4 : 22-24). Like Dr. Sproul said, we put forth active effort while at the same time, we know we can't achieve any of this without the Holy Spirit helping us, who is actively working all of this behavior, (fruit), in us to make us more and more like our Savior Jesus Christ (John 17 : 17, 2 Corinthians 3 : 17-18). And of course this wouldn't be complete without walking in love (John 13 : 34-35, Galatians 5 : 22-23, Colossians 3 : 12-14) Hope this helps, sorry it ended up being so long!
If you want to know what to sanctify from and sanctify to; get to know the bible very well. You can start from the gospel of John, then study the letters of the apostles from Paul in Romans thru John of Revelations. I have read thru the whole bible (from genesis to revelation) many times, I would advise every one to do the same. This admonishment is from Jesus Himself: John 17 verses13 to 19 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Sola Scriptura, teaches us that Abraham believed and obeyed God in Genesis chapter 12, and chapter 13, before he was justified in Genesis chapter 15, as Hebrews chapter 11v8, Abraham when he was called to go out to the place that he would receive for a inheritance obeyed and went out and went out not knowing where he was going, and not only did he obey God but He was blessed by God by Melchisedec who was the Priest of the most high God, who blessed Abraham with bread and wine in Genesis chapter 14, but in Hebrews 7v1-3, is a eternal priest, because He is without father or mother , without beginning or end of life, and King of Righteousness and Peace. So the Eternal One who is eternal righteousness , blesses Abraham in Genesis chapter 14, before he before he is justified by faith in Genesis chapter 15v6. This means that the God of Glory appeared to Abraham in Acts 7v2, and Abraham believed and obeyed God, in Genesis 12, and Hebrews chapter 11v8, and was blessed by the eternal priest of the most High God who it the king of righteousness, and then gives this eternal king a tenth of the spoils of the war he had waged to rescue righteous Lot How tragic to be guided by mere men instead of sola scriptura
Human is defined as hew man fallen man. If one is redeemed is one human. Yes biologically but if one is to state "I am just human" that is a contradiction in terms. Words have meaning let us speak in truth.
He is correct but he still doesn't understand the depth of what he teaches. His terms are correct. We cannot produce holiness. It is the power of the holy spirit working in us. This is our deep relationship w the Holy Spirit that is achieved by daily prayer and not simply mentally acknowledging the information or theology. Blessings
That doesn't even make logical sense. If you're a Christian, by definition, you are already "predestined", "elected", and "saved." There's no such thing as Christians in hell. Good grief.
@@Yesica1993 I tell you not many will enter the narrow gate which leads to salvation but the broad gate which leads to destruction And when the time comes they will say Lord Lord,In your name we cast out demons ,heal the sick and do your works,The Lord will say get away from me you workers of inquities,I never knew you.
Here's my take on that- it's not that God predestined anyone because God is outside of "time". He's seen it all from the beginning. He's already seen the "ending", therefore already knows who is going to put their faith in the Lord even before they are born. I think "predestined" is slightly misunderstood because of this. God bless you friend.
This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 60-part teaching series Foundations: An Overview of Systematic Theology. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series...
thanks. 🎉 done
Let us not forget that In Isaiah 64:6 we read that” But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags”. We believers are Justified, sanctified and eventually at His coming, will be glorified, all done by the grace of our LORD. Hallowed be Your Holy name, for ever and ever. Amen.❤️✝️🙏📖
@@olgaburgos7780 He has already come and died at the cross at golgotha to redeem us of our sins
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For future reference; the 'periods' at the end of the sentence cause the link not to work. If your sentence 'ends' with a link, you must leave the period (.) Off the end of the sentence. God bless.
When you really love someone you listen to them (and not only on Sunday); you want to know them better with each passing day. You care about what they care about: what makes them happy, sad or angry. If someone disrespects them you rise to their defense. You delight in them and all that they do and you never EVER misquote them, use them or their words to satisfy your needs or to win an argument; only to abandon them when they are no longer needed.... Why do so many who call themselves Christians, treat God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as if they are nothing more than a napkin that they pick up when they need one, and discard when they don't?
They're not born-again and given a new nature. T
hey have mot been translated from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of His dear Son.
The LORD will say to them in that day "Depart from me, I NEVER knew you".
Can Man really love like that? I think not!! If so divorces would be non-existent…
@@marcusburnett7225 not the old man Marcus,only a born again Christian ‼️
Read Erik Metaxas's New book, Letter to the American Church.
The biblical definition of love changes depending on your place in God's hierarchy.
God > Jesus > Man > Women > children > animals
Loving those higher than you is: Obeying
(John 14: 15)
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."
Loving those lower than you is: Patience and kindness, etc.
(1 Cor 13: 4-7)
"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
RC Sproul’s wisdom is a real treasure for believers.
God bless you for this ministry.
Thank you Dr sproul for such a beautiful message.. 🙏🏽✝️i am from India, one fine day when the Lord times is ready i will meet you up there there in Heaven.
rc was/is the best reformed teacher.
thank you Lord for the ministry of rc sproul
Very well explained! People critisizing this man is really not well
"What's on your partially sanctified mind?" Love it!
This is powerful, thank you Lord for this brother amen
Wow, magnificent teachings. Looking forward to learning more.
This was captivating to watch! Thank you Ligonier!
This was so excellent. Thank you for posting this.
Wondeful Message!
Timeless teachings!
Thank you❤️🙏
NEVER EVER GIVE UP ON OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,……….. WHY?,…….. BECAUSE HE NEVER GAVE UP ON US,……. AMEN
We never give up, because the holy Spirit of God, working in us.
Thank you.
RC, the Biblical detective😊
Amen!!! Right on point Correct.
Sadly this man died of COPD
R.C. and John MacArthur didn't believe
exactly the same.
But they had great respect for each other
Their Q n A's are Epic to listen to
Hello and bless you all
Good message
Blessing.
I've experienced this, almost exactly
And sometimes it really becomes difficult and confusing . The HYPER GRACE theology I get. When Watching Pilgrims progress I see Pilgrim running from his own family. Our LORD Jesus said He came to bring a sword and not peace in a man's own household. It seems to me, a very thin line. Both my son and daughter got married in a catholic church, I disagreed. We both grew up in this American Christianity. I'm convinced otherwise. And I read The SCRIPTURES and find no commen ground with my wife. Don't get me wrong she has great theology. But seems to say she has peace with God and yet when our kids come by, all she seems to express, is to make sure they are happy. They talk about the next best thing.
The husband sanctifies the wife and the wife sanctifies the husband. Obey God not man be bold for the Lord.
Amen
❤️❤️❤️
A question of logic - I understand that if you’re converted you will change, but if you find yourself changing what assurance is there that the change is the result of conversion?
For me , The conversion was not the change. The change was when I realised I wanted to be converted. Conversion or not , logically your trying to change regardless , your actions will tell .
I've found dry fasting extremely powerful, to get closer to god .
John, you make an excellent point. I have worked in small country churches. Many of the members have gone to church their whole life and Many are "saved" young but then in later life, end up questioning their born-again salvation experience.
If I understand your question in light of my previous statement: what is the difference between friut of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer and the actions of an unsaved person who, because of close proximity to, and constant exposure of, godly people and biblical teaching over time acts like a believer? Is this an accurate way to word your question?
Both look to be "biblical" but one is being "changed" by the Power of God.
Would it be accurate to say that the unsaved one is being changed by his own will power or by societal pressure to conform to an acceptable standard?
As a pastor, one of my greatest challenges, is to not make the saved think themselves lost and not cause the lost to think themselves are saved.
In my personal experience, I was saved at 28, and therefore had a LOT of worldly baggage. You would had to look closely for friut. But if you looked closely, you would have seen change. Love of the Word of God, conviction over ungodly actions AND thoughts, desire to be around other believers and a want to go to church and worship. BUT all of the so called outward evidence can be evidences of how you were raised and not proof of the work of the Holy Spirit.
Would you say this is close to what you are asking?
I ges the very confusing part of this to me is that he say sanctification is nessisary for salvation and that God does his part and we do our part. Then he said several times that our part is work. Just dont see how that is not teaching works rightiosnes then.
God does His part in Justification and we do our part with the help of the Holy Spirit in sanctification.
Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
@paulbaran4796 yes, but my point is, sproul, mcarther, and others say our part is hard, work, dificult etc. And they say that without that one is not saved, but then on the other hand they will say of course salvation is all God's work I think that where many get confused.
The scriptures make it very clear that they walk hand in hand...or if you will, one follows the other.
How would one quantify " no fruit whatsoever" i mean even poeple with bad things in thier life do some good things also.
being very basic here, fruit generally represents behavior. Just as an example, this is what happened to me before and after I was saved: before, never felt guilty after sinning or the need to repent, never read the Bible, never prayed, never actively tried to cut sin out of my life, or even thought about doing so. After, now I feel the full weight of conviction of my own sinfulness and repent anytime I sin, whether in thought or in action (John 16 : 8, Matthew 3 : 8), now I read my Bible every single day (2 Timothy 3 : 16-17, Hebrews 4 : 12), now I pray constantly (Luke 18 : 1, 1 Thessalonians 5 : 17), now I work constantly to try and reduce the sin in my life (Romans 8 : 13, Ephesians 4 : 22-24). Like Dr. Sproul said, we put forth active effort while at the same time, we know we can't achieve any of this without the Holy Spirit helping us, who is actively working all of this behavior, (fruit), in us to make us more and more like our Savior Jesus Christ (John 17 : 17, 2 Corinthians 3 : 17-18). And of course this wouldn't be complete without walking in love (John 13 : 34-35, Galatians 5 : 22-23, Colossians 3 : 12-14) Hope this helps, sorry it ended up being so long!
If you want to know what to sanctify from and sanctify to; get to know the bible very well. You can start from the gospel of John, then study the letters of the apostles from Paul in Romans thru John of Revelations. I have read thru the whole bible (from genesis to revelation) many times, I would advise every one to do the same.
This admonishment is from Jesus Himself: John 17 verses13 to 19
And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Sola Scriptura, teaches us that Abraham believed and obeyed God in Genesis chapter 12, and chapter 13, before he was justified in Genesis chapter 15, as Hebrews chapter 11v8, Abraham when he was called to go out to the place that he would receive for a inheritance obeyed and went out and went out not knowing where he was going, and not only did he obey God but He was blessed by God by Melchisedec who was the Priest of the most high God, who blessed Abraham with bread and wine in Genesis chapter 14, but in Hebrews 7v1-3, is a eternal priest, because He is without father or mother , without beginning or end of life, and King of Righteousness and Peace. So the Eternal One who is eternal righteousness , blesses Abraham in Genesis chapter 14, before he before he is justified by faith in Genesis chapter 15v6.
This means that the God of Glory appeared to Abraham in Acts 7v2, and Abraham believed and obeyed God, in Genesis 12, and Hebrews chapter 11v8, and was blessed by the eternal priest of the most High God who it the king of righteousness, and then gives this eternal king a tenth of the spoils of the war he had waged to rescue righteous Lot
How tragic to be guided by mere men instead of sola scriptura
Human is defined as hew man fallen man. If one is redeemed is one human. Yes biologically but if one is to state "I am just human" that is a contradiction in terms. Words have meaning let us speak in truth.
He is correct but he still doesn't understand the depth of what he teaches. His terms are correct. We cannot produce holiness. It is the power of the holy spirit working in us. This is our deep relationship w the Holy Spirit that is achieved by daily prayer and not simply mentally acknowledging the information or theology. Blessings
Not all Christians will enter Heaven as God had predestined and elected those whom are saved and true believers
That doesn't even make logical sense. If you're a Christian, by definition, you are already "predestined", "elected", and "saved." There's no such thing as Christians in hell. Good grief.
What's that you said, please?
@@Yesica1993 I tell you not many will enter the narrow gate which leads to salvation but the broad gate which leads to destruction And when the time comes they will say Lord Lord,In your name we cast out demons ,heal the sick and do your works,The Lord will say get away from me you workers of inquities,I never knew you.
@@robertmize327 I will simplify it in this way,The Lord chooses and changes the hearts of men to faith
Here's my take on that- it's not that God predestined anyone because God is outside of "time". He's seen it all from the beginning. He's already seen the "ending", therefore already knows who is going to put their faith in the Lord even before they are born. I think "predestined" is slightly misunderstood because of this. God bless you friend.