I love how these three agree with each other so much, goes to show how preachers in general need a well rounded and balanced view of grace, justification and sanctification, that they can articulate to the brethren they're shepherding
When we sin God cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Christ is raised up to intercede for us, for our justification, and through his blood this is made possible. Justification is all our lives not a once and done event. We are not saved until the last day. Obedience is not just sanctification. That is the mess of Calvinism. Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Jesus did not obey the law for us, we must walk in the righteousness of the law, which is the obedience of faith, just like Abraham. Romans explains why we have no condemnation and it is not Christ's righteousness. It is our sins washed but it is also our walking in obedience, which is righteousness. Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. So the whole world received the blessing of salvation in Christ because of Abrahams obedience of faith but we do not have to love God and obey him for our salvation? We must be righteous and it is our righteousness empowered the the Holy Spirit. When God said he would put his Spirit in us to allow us to walk in his laws he wasn't kidding. 1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
The Grace of God is given to us to transform us and to do good works that in the final judgement will be rewarded with eternal life. This is not from us (natural powers), but from God through Christ Jesus our Lord! This whole picture truly brings glory to God!
The key to understanding justification and sanctification is to be "In Christ". In Christ the believer is justified and is also sanctified. Salvation requires one to be in Christ. To be in Christ necessitates sanctification.
Just as the Spirit enables justification, He enables sanctification and glorification. This work is conveyed in our obedience. It's all God, then it's our obedience. This order is crucial!
I am currently feeling as excited about sanctification as I was about justification some ten years ago when I started to understand gospel truth . What justification gave me enables my sanctification, God works in us with our cooperation. If he is putting his hand on an area of my life I should let him do the sanctification work and not be okay living forever with something God wants to fix
God's grace saves us from both the guilt and the grip of sin. Grace saves is from the penalty of sin AND the power of sin. Grace is a miracle what God can do for us that we can't do for ourselves. Thank you for a good discussion.
If you love Me you will keep My commandments. A statement of fact, not of action. Who are those who love God, those whom He gives to Christ. We love Him because He first loved us. Teach people who they are in Christ like Paul did.
Grace is the backbone of sanctification and justification. Neither one is possible without God, impossible with our own strengths or striving. Good works come from sanctification, not the other way around
I so appreciate this discussion. So many of these questions and concepts have been flying around in my head lately, it's good to know I'm not alone in thinking them. I'm also of the opinion that John Wesley was on to something with Christian Perfection (that is, if you can hear him and not so much his interpreters). Wesley believed that a person could be so completely sanctified that they attain to a life totally free from sin, where love is the chief motivation of the heart, and where joy and peace and every Christian virtue is present. This does not negate the possibility of sin, only that through constant abiding, we "walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to Him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God."
There is no controversy! The Church Fathers know best... Justification and Sanctification go "hand in hand", therefore salvation (Justification) has an initial, progressive (sanctification) and final steps, it's a process!
I do not believe that salvation is a two step process (justification and sanctification) salvation thru faith alone (justification) what is our guide to salvation? God's word, faith. call to holy living (sanctification). what is our guide to holy living? God's word, The Holy Spirit's leading my proof of salvation does not require sanctification is the thief on the cross who believed Jesus was the messiah (savior) was saved by faith. He can't follow or be slave to the flesh (old nature) that time because he's about to die physically, he can't even do good works. sanctification is the next step in the christian life after regeneration and justification. Continue in the Love and Grace of God.
Justification is a reconciliation process while sanctification is a purifying/cleansing process. To be justified, you need to accept Jesus as Lord and savior this accepting the fact that he died for your sins while sanctification has to do with a conscious turning away from all that it's sinful as you study and understand the scriptures daily.
The word 'sanctify' and related words mean set apart. Most frequently in the NT speak of this as a completed action in the past. See 1 Cor 1:2 and 6:11. Hence because we are set apart we seek to be like our saviour. Most teaching on this subject is plain wrong.
I think anytime I hear people saying we must sanctify really makes me uneasy. when I hear we must it seems we are putting our trust in we, not he! We are sanctified by faith in Christ. Its done to us.
This is an old comment so your views may have changed. But I would say that a Christian who properly gets the depth and breadth of the miracle of life wants to do all the good works of deep, meaningful prayer, worship, study, fasting, sacraments, devotion, obedience, etc IN GRATITUDE and Faith (better translated as TRUST) which all then helps us to Trust Him all the more and trust ourselves less! :)
The concept of justification. As in any mathematical equations, if you get the formula wrong everything follows wrong thus the end result will be wrong. You're a sinner, all have sinned. the verdict, guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Here comes JC, pardoned you. Judicial pardon, final, your slate is clean, every single sin forgiven. Then u die at the same time. Conclusion: you go straight to heaven. Good. The problem is, you didn't die, you're still living. And as you keep on living u cannot avoid sinning, maybe small maybe big. In the end, what do you need??? Another pardon???
Pursue holiness without wich no one will see the lord is talking about believers testimony meaning no one will see the lord in your life the amount of good we do can only flow from our assurance no to gain assurance
It’s actually quite simple. We see from Hebrews chapter 2 the connection between the *_fear of death_* and *_bondage to the devil._* Where a man is subject to the fear of death, he *_will_* be subject to this bondage. The only cure for this is the assurance we have through justification from all things, by faith. Justification does not require sanctification. It’s the other way around. *_And EVERY man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure_* (1st John 3:3) Notice this verse is not a commandment, but a promise. It doesn’t require our participation. We are sanctified by hope. And this hope can only be ours when we can *_rest_* safe in the knowledge that our salvation is settled forever. This also puts away the silly “license to sin” argument. “Every man” means exactly what it says, *_EVERY_* man. Not some. Not most. All. But when christians lose sight of this hope, this is where problems come in. False teachers who preach against assurance, bringing christians back under the fear of death through false doctrines of works.
I have some what to say about this matter: I believe as stated in the bible that we are washed, sanctified and justified for the kingdom 1) washed- by the blood once we accept Christ but wait, now we have to prove what we say is true for it is a race not for the swift. 2) we prove our words of our mouth and heart through the fire. When we bear the cross, when the storm come do we still believe or was the seed not sown on good ground.. Once e have been tested and not found wanting then.... 3) we are justified when our belief is found to be true, Abraham belief was counted for righteousness... His belief had to be proven not just by his words. God said get away from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you.... For God to know you... You have to Prove our log and we do this by doing His will. So yes the right order is WASHED THEN SANCTIFIED THEN JUSTIFIED.... and not justified and then sanctified. All this is grace.... It is the process of GRACE. Blessing to you from a simple student of the word.
Salvation was Purchased by Jesus on the cross, he didn’t put a down payment and leave you with the rest, on a pay as you go! He Said “IT IS FINISHED!” Every true believer receives the Holy Spirit, how much you nurture and cooperate with him determines the works in your life, if there are no workes, that is no change in your life, then oddes are you didn’t receive the Holy Spirit, which means you weren’t born again, regenerated, thus still need to be saved by Gods Grace through Your Faith in his work on the cross. Nothing you do saves you, or keeps you saved, your works are for sanctification, NOT Justification.
@William Walker Here is something you may enjoy reading.>>> Consequently, the very idea of faith in Jesus Christ is fused with the obligation to holiness, justice, and truth. Within such an objective lies the sanctifying work of “the law of the Spirit of life” (Romans 8:2). See Rom 8:1-4. Therefore, no Christian can rightly be called Lawless. See 1 Cor 9:21 where Paul identifies “the Law of Christ” which has continental sanctifying plausibility for all Christians. Note: "Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works" (Titus 2:13-14). Here we have the quality and intent of sanctification. Necessarily, while justification and sanctification coexist together, the sanctified / saved life is strictly a work of the Spirit (Phil 1:6; 1 Thess 5:23-24)-through grace we are made the proponent. In 2 Cor 6:17 we are summoned to: Therefore, come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord; do not touch any unclean thing, and I will welcome you. When this Old Testament summons (Isa 52:11; Ezek 20:41) is echoed to the New Testament Church, it is not to be mistaken as an additional prerequisite necessary for salvation [faith plus works]. No, rather this is a call to “the saved” to concur with the sanctifying work of the Spirit as we have already been welcomed in Christ. See 2 Cor 7:1. Hence, Paul reminds the Corinthians that they ARE God’s temple [saved in the present tense]-individually and collectively. Relatively, we are His people with a permanent place with Christ in eternity.
I have been thinking a lot about salvation and it's funny how we don't see the full picture of salvation that is - Justification, Sanctification and Glorification. It seems to me that we are having a Christianity that is seeking only Justification and Glorification without the Sanctifying work of the Holy Ghost. Now, we should be careful that we do not get hung on one aspect for if we focus on Sanctification without Justification, we get into works Salvation if we seek Justification and Glorification only, that is humanism. Romans 8:28-30 shows us the working of God through our salvation and if God is not working, I would be hard pressed to say it may be He never started for He who begun a good work in you, shall bring it into completion. 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
I almost do not want to admit that I am a Christian in the Catholic tradition. But because I am Catholic, I have a strong opinion that if an error or an imbalance is to be made in one's faith, the imbalance must favor the side of justification. Unfortunately, in my tradition sanctification is everything; justification is seldom even preached upon. When a person, as myself, comes to believe that Christ is our righteousness the whole matter of sanctification is put into its proper place. Understanding sanctification does not compare to believing in our Justification by Christ. I have seen from both Catholics and Evangelicals serious hangups about "their" creed (i.e. blood vs works, or justification vs sanctification), as if their creed is faith. IMO, a creed or a formula that describes Jesus Christ is not the same as faith in what Christ has done.
This comment is four years old so not sure if you have gone deeper in this. The Church has always taught that justification and sanctification are inseparable. That we are justified by God’s Grace alone through Baptism which forgives all sin and makes us clean. We don’t even have to make a decision to receive this Grace. And then the life of the Catholic is filled with good works to help us learn to know, love, trust, serve and worship him. This is sanctification. The catechism spells all this out beautifully! Most Catholics don’t really understand this and so we see the Protestant world as maybe getting this right but our Faith already has the correct teaching. We as lay people just need to learn it fully and then teach it properly (we can’t depend on our dear Priests to do it all). Blessings.
Means just that justified from all sins romansv3 ,: 21 - 26 sanctified to set apart for service that what the meaning of sanctify to purify oneself in a growing sense good news
God grace is the causes of justification and sanctification.. The grace of God in the baptism justified a man conversion of faith TITUS 3:5-7 man cooperate God grace by doing good works TITUS 3:8-9
It is a work of the Holy Spirit which requires our cooperation, which cooperation should flow naturally from our new nature in Christ. When Paul says for us to walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh it implies that though we are justified and have a new nature we can still give room to sin. I think the more we grow in our walk with Jesus the more we get just as excited about sanctification as we are about justification .
Yes! Both! But we have free will to Trust Him it not. For me and my family and for the sake of others I will “work hard” to learn to Trust Him more each day. All by His power and all for His glory. I learn to trust me less and Him more.
Are there different degrees of holiness? I view holiness as you either are holy or you are not. That being said none of us are without sin. Being sanctified is being set apart from the world. We can be set apart for good works or any number of plans God has for us. Ultimately that does not make me holy. I am seen as holy because of my standing in Christ. His righteousness is imputed to me, though I still struggle with sin on a daily basis.
Wow can you see what happens when you believe that you are justified by grace by God alone. We need the grace of Jesus also to be saved. Two declarations of justification. God justifies us for faith in Christ, but Christ justifies us for our good works. Romans 4:25 is pivotal in Romans which is the gospel of obedience to faith, Jesus was delivered for our offences and raised for our justification. We need to be justified by Christ through sanctification of the Holy Spirit, else even though Jesus died on the cross, we would still be dead in our sins as 1 Corinthians 15:17.
But what do you mean by “made right” by justification? what is the affect on the human as a result of justification? once you use the word “imputed” you must account for the Catholic perspective on justification ...
I don't agree with progressive sanctification, because we already fully sanctified by Jesus on the cross. We can only live in holiness but cannot added holiness to our life, we can not become more holy because of what we do in our live.
The Reformed have made his far more complicated than it was ever meant to be. Our salvation is contingent on sanctification. This is why Paul said to _Christians_ in the book of Romans, "If you sow to the flesh, you will die." So long as the Reformed believe an unqualified sola-fide they will feel the difficulty of explaining how works can be necessary in the life of a Christian.
+John6forty-eight --While I seriously disagree with your summary, I would just add that Rome will always fall short of perfect and perpetual obedience and be forced to finish their own "finished" work of Christ in Purgatory.
Or like Paul who said that "_He_ must fill up that which was lacking in Christ's afflictions." If you begin with a presupposition, and then interpret scripture in light of your assumptions, you will never be able to make sense of verses that do not align with your theology. If Christ's work is finished and you are completely absolved at the moment of your conversion, then why does Christ tell us to "pray like this. . . forgive us our trespasses" ? After conversion there would be no need to ask for a forgiveness already granted. Unless we are in need of continual forgiveness, in which case we would still be owed some chastisement for those venial sins not repented of, even after death.
+John6forty-eight For the same reason the Jews were to perform animal sacrifices, to remain in fellowship with God IN THIS PHYSICAL LIFE. Spiritually, it's a done deal at the moment of belief. Once you are born again spiritually you cannot be unborn. The flesh is the sinful man still living in us and he can do nothing but sin. The spirit is what is born-again and this new man cannot sin. Walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. That also means you can walk in the flesh and fulfill the lusts of the flesh, and doing so will kill the flesh...but the Spirit is saved no matter what.
have you ever ponder why Jesus taught the sermon on the mount or about adultery in divorce and marriage? about loving God and loving men? correction about the temple of God, about the sabbath, and many more teachings?., about Paul's epistles to the churches and brethren; of other apostle's letters and the gospel? yes Justification is by Grace. (saved by grace. God's act) Sanctification is by Grace, in a sense that the Holy Spirit works within the believer and that the believer must walk in the Spirit, renewing of the mind, resisting the devil, faith that is genuine, taking heed according to God's word... all in the help and Grace of the Holy Spirit. It is a process. if the Gospel or the bible is solely justification, then there will be of no need for paul's epistles, peter, james, john's epistles, even Jesus' teachings of how to live the holy life. we are called to be holy because God is Holy. and we cannot do that with our own. We need faith that comes by hearing the word of God, the Holy Spirit that renews our mind, The word of God which is beneficial for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. God calls us to abide in Him, and Him in us (thru the Holy Spirit, Meditating on God's word, prayer)... but i like that they also emphasized that all the warnings and beseeching in the bible are motivated by God's love, and our response is also (should be) motivated by love (thru faith by Grace empowered by the Holy Spirit) **I believe that sanctification is synergism**, is a battle of the flesh or the old nature, and working of the Holy Spirit just like what Paul said Romans chapters 6 & 7. We may fall, but we don't want to continue to lie down in our sinful nature thus the scriptures' warnings and beseeching to the holy living. While **Justification is Monergism** Sanctification is essential in a sense that Christians should not abuse Grace (Romans 6), we have a guideline for genuine faith that produces fruits in James, and Romans, Galatians, in the Gospel, just to name a few. Justification by faith is essential in a sense that no man may boast because of his/her good works we have a guideline for genuine faith that saves in James, and Romans, Galatians, in the Gospel, just to name a few. Again, just to iterate my point. What is the WHOLE purpose of the B.I.B.L.E.? If you study the scripture, most of my claims will be familiar to you. It's not just Justification, but also Sanctification... I also believe that there's also that blessed hope of glorification (i believe to be achieved in heaven / the new heaven and new earth / new jerusalem, rewards such as a place in heaven, various crowns, lordship and reign with Christ, glorfied body)
We are all sinners, even the best of us, and apt to sin again. No one is infallible and thus knows the future. To imply "I've been saved"and gifted with "perseverance" to avoid sin is one thing, but that denies freewill as also a free gift from God. Dan Baker is just one example of a protestant Christian pastor who later became a staunch atheist and anti-Christian. Being baptised or "born again" is like getting married to a beautiful person. Its demands faith, trust and perseverance. Like salvation it is not just saying "i do" it is a lifelong lived experience.
Why only hint at the "other motivations" and the timidity of the words on God's correction? Are we afraid of the antinomian church? God promises to punish us if we do not obey once we have had our sins forgiven and removed--we cannot continue to practice sin with impunity. The difficult, hard and scary warnings are there from Matthew to Revelation. Love and kindness demands our speaking the truth.
Listen, THE primarily issue with this confusion is that people have WRONGLY assumed when Paul says, we are not saved by Works of the Law, that he means we are saved without any effort or obedience. Hogwash! Paul is only making the point that all of the ceremony and external circumcision and ritual are done away with. Jesus still has commands and laws that we must follow. Justification is not a “get out of jail free” card. Justification gives us a right standing with God, from which we, through the Spirits power, willfully engage in our sanctification and crucify the flesh with equal motivations of the promise of blessing and the fear of God.
I'm not a big fan of TGC but I think these guys have hit the nail on the head here. I am reformed and therefore believe in the doctrines of grace however, I have fallen victim to the over emphasis of grace together with the under emphasis of sanctification. This has occasionally led me to comfortably fall back into sin, only to come back in repentance again. Looking back, I can see that the Holy Spirit was rebuking me; which is evidence of both preserving grace and the importance of temporal sanctification, no matter how slow and meandering. Just like the apostles Paul says: "Shall we then continue sinning that grace may abound?" Every time we take our eyes off Jesus and fall into sin, the Holy Spirit convicts us and presents us anew with our crucified saviour which reminds us of the heinousness of sin. Our new nature causes us to desire to do justice (desire to obey the ten commandments), to love mercy (thank God for our justification) and walk humbly with our God (accept His rebuke when it comes). At the end of the day; if we were not destined for growth in sanctification in this life, why on earth would we be convicted of sin in this life?
Thinking you can lose salvation for sin is not trusting in works, it is understanding that grace is conditional upon obedience. Jesus said that it is only if you forgive (a work) that will be forgiven (grace). This does not mean the justification is owed or 'of' works, it is still of grace. The reason Paul wrote on this idea of works righteousness being false is because Jews thought circumcision and other works of the law meant God owed them justification. Obeying Christ for the keeping of forgiveness is not something for which the person can be owed but so many Christians think it is so they reject the warnings and remain lawless. Then they scornfully say the God fearing Christians do not believe in God. Well how do you fear someone you don't believe in? Or they say we do not believe the promise of God? He promised you will go to hell if you do not turn from wilful sin. Do you believe? God is the one that grants salvation-faith, he gives it to those who have a righteous conscience (Rom 2:5 and 14-15).
Where's the Holy Spirit ? The agent of sanctification . You cannot do the things that you would . Do not Grieve the Holy Spirit . They have a purely cognitive view of sanctification .
this is what happens when you add the qualifier "alone " to faith. you end up excluding sanctification making it optional but not really necessary. these speakers are confused because they violated scripture by adding to it something that isn't in the text.
There is no controversy! The Church Fathers know best... Justification and Sanctification go "hand in hand", therefore salvation (Justification) is a process!
I agree. There should be no controversy. But once you have Christ in your heart you have been Justified. It is sanctification that is a lifetime process because we are sinners. Our "Label" of being a non-believer is taken away and we become new. Justification is a event while sanctification is a process.
The imputed righteousness of Christ comes after sanctification, it is that easy, Read 1 Peter 1:2. After becoming a believer, and sanctification of the Spirit, then obedience, are before the sprinkling of the blood of Christ on the mercy seat for us individually. Grace is mercy, it is a judgement not an attitude or feeling, and it has to be given strictly as specified in the gospels including Romans. God is not your judge, but Christ is, we shall be judged.
Grace isn't Mercy. Mercy is a person not getting what they deserve. So where I deserve punishment, I don't get punished because of mercy. Grace is getting what you don't deserve. I can't earn or work for salvation, it's a gift. They go hand in hand but they're very different. We're not saved by mercy, we're saved by grace
The gospel is not solely justification ? No way, this is false teaching, the gospel is solely justification. If you look at the old testament, the whole economy of sacrifices was to atone for sins. Sacrifices did not improve a person or make them better or make them sin less, they forgave sins, plain and simple. And so does Christ, Hebrews is clear how Christ's sacrifice is more perfect, it allows to have a perfect conscience towards God (have assurance that all our sins past present and future have been taken away at the cross). This is justification, it is the gospel. Our good works (sanctification) are not the gospel. With that said good works always follow justification, not necessarily outwardly but inwardly in that a christian has an attitude of repentance like the tax collector when he said "God have mercy on me a sinner" and went justified. Defining sanctification as performance is extremely dangerous, white washed tombs do not go to heaven. A christian may perform worse than an unbeliever outwardly, but God looks at the heart, and a christian has a clean heart because of faith, not because of good works.
Protestant beliefs are contradictory and self refuting which means it cannot be of God. Belief 1) Good works is only a fruit or sign of salvation Belief 2) Man will always produce bad fruit (sin) Conclusion: No Protestant is saved because they will always produce bad fruit
What a bunch of nonsense. They don't even define justification or sanctification. What bloviating! Go run a school or a hospital, do the work that Jesus told you to do, and stop wasting time and money on such nonsense conversations that mean nothing.
John 14:15 If You love me, keep my commandments. This guy said keep my commands. The word must not be altered. The commandments are the 10 that God wrote in STONE. The Devil has deceived many into thinking that Sunday is God's Sabbath. He is a God that does not change. The Sabbath is a sign between God and his people and it is Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. The commandments are Love, the first 5 to God the second 5 to man.
Constance you quote one of many verses of obedience towards salvation, from reading the NT clearly we need to show a change in our lives, dedication to not sin and do good. Yet as this video showed pastors are careful not to require obedience to commandments for Salvation, just a casual appreciation of 'finished works by Jesus on the cross' as salvation, and nothing we need do towards salvation. Romans is the gospel of obedience to faith for Christians, backed by John, James and Peter having obedience as essential for Salvation. Even Jude 1:20-21 has the need for communion with the Holy Ghost, and mercy of Jesus Christ for eternal life. Romans clearly informs me that we need two justifications, two declarations of righteousness, as Romans 3:25 & 3:26. The righteousness of God for faith in Christ, and the righteousness of Christ for our good works of faith. Faith being complete trust and obedience.
I disagree. Self reflection and good works is not pietism. Pietism is a twisting if what they are saying such as hyper-calvinism is a twisting of pure Calvinism.
sanctification is not necessary for salvation and we don't have to grow in holiness. Ask Samson, a hero of the faith mentioned in Hebrews 11, instead of growing in holiness he went into a prostitute and the holy spirit left him, yet he is in heaven right now. Sanctification is not an aspect of salvation. Luther had it right that justification is by grace through faith, sanctification on the other hand are the spontaneous works that the holy spirit does in the Christian. The gospel equals justification, when we are freed from the guilt of sin, yes we are freed from the power of sin. But this are not separate, once our guilt is taken away, sin automatically loses its power. Justification produces sanctification automatically, spontaneously. The apostle Paul clearly taught that the power of sin is the law, saw as soon as our sins are forgiven and we are not under the law, sin loses its power instantly but this is the result of not being under the law. The power of sin is the law taught Paul in his letter to the Corinthians, also Romans 7 shows the same thing.
Thank you for this teaching.. God replaces our affections for his own, this is the progressive work of Grace
I love how these three agree with each other so much, goes to show how preachers in general need a well rounded and balanced view of grace, justification and sanctification, that they can articulate to the brethren they're shepherding
Justification is the saving agent, it saves a soul from sin. Sanctification purges the carnal nature of man.
When we sin God cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Christ is raised up to intercede for us, for our justification, and through his blood this is made possible. Justification is all our lives not a once and done event. We are not saved until the last day. Obedience is not just sanctification. That is the mess of Calvinism. Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Jesus did not obey the law for us, we must walk in the righteousness of the law, which is the obedience of faith, just like Abraham. Romans explains why we have no condemnation and it is not Christ's righteousness. It is our sins washed but it is also our walking in obedience, which is righteousness.
Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
So the whole world received the blessing of salvation in Christ because of Abrahams obedience of faith but we do not have to love God and obey him for our salvation?
We must be righteous and it is our righteousness empowered the the Holy Spirit. When God said he would put his Spirit in us to allow us to walk in his laws he wasn't kidding.
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Amen and thank you for simplifying further.
The Grace of God is given to us to transform us and to do good works that in the final judgement will be rewarded with eternal life. This is not from us (natural powers), but from God through Christ Jesus our Lord! This whole picture truly brings glory to God!
The key to understanding justification and sanctification is to be "In Christ". In Christ the believer is justified and is also sanctified. Salvation requires one to be in Christ. To be in Christ necessitates sanctification.
Just as the Spirit enables justification, He enables sanctification and glorification. This work is conveyed in our obedience. It's all God, then it's our obedience. This order is crucial!
I am currently feeling as excited about sanctification as I was about justification some ten years ago when I started to understand gospel truth . What justification gave me enables my sanctification, God works in us with our cooperation. If he is putting his hand on an area of my life I should let him do the sanctification work and not be okay living forever with something God wants to fix
God's grace saves us from both the guilt and the grip of sin. Grace saves is from the penalty of sin AND the power of sin. Grace is a miracle what God can do for us that we can't do for ourselves. Thank you for a good discussion.
If you love Me you will keep My commandments. A statement of fact, not of action. Who are those who love God, those whom He gives to Christ. We love Him because He first loved us.
Teach people who they are in Christ like Paul did.
Grace is the backbone of sanctification and justification. Neither one is possible without God, impossible with our own strengths or striving. Good works come from sanctification, not the other way around
I so appreciate this discussion. So many of these questions and concepts have been flying around in my head lately, it's good to know I'm not alone in thinking them.
I'm also of the opinion that John Wesley was on to something with Christian Perfection (that is, if you can hear him and not so much his interpreters). Wesley believed that a person could be so completely sanctified that they attain to a life totally free from sin, where love is the chief motivation of the heart, and where joy and peace and every Christian virtue is present. This does not negate the possibility of sin, only that through constant abiding, we "walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to Him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God."
Hebrews 10 14 says for by one offering he hath perfected for ever those that " are" sanctified. We are sanctified at the moment of justification.
According to these gentlemen, the Catholic Church had it correct all along!
It is time to unite all Christians again!
Three pastors explore the tricky-and controversial-connection between justification and sanctification.
#justification #sanctification
There is no controversy! The Church Fathers know best... Justification and Sanctification go "hand in hand", therefore salvation (Justification) has an initial, progressive (sanctification) and final steps, it's a process!
I do not believe that salvation is a two step process (justification and sanctification)
salvation thru faith alone (justification) what is our guide to salvation? God's word, faith.
call to holy living (sanctification). what is our guide to holy living? God's word, The Holy Spirit's leading
my proof of salvation does not require sanctification is the thief on the cross who believed Jesus was the messiah (savior) was saved by faith. He can't follow or be slave to the flesh (old nature) that time because he's about to die physically, he can't even do good works.
sanctification is the next step in the christian life after regeneration and justification. Continue in the Love and Grace of God.
Justification is a reconciliation process while sanctification is a purifying/cleansing process. To be justified, you need to accept Jesus as Lord and savior this accepting the fact that he died for your sins while sanctification has to do with a conscious turning away from all that it's sinful as you study and understand the scriptures daily.
Thank you for making it clear
Amen
Amen and thank you for the clarity.
The word 'sanctify' and related words mean set apart. Most frequently in the NT speak of this as a completed action in the past. See 1 Cor 1:2 and 6:11. Hence because we are set apart we seek to be like our saviour. Most teaching on this subject is plain wrong.
It's about time we see someone teaching that forgiveness, CANNOT be OBTAINED WITHOUT a life of REPENTANCE.
they mentioned and quoted "go and sin no more"
I think anytime I hear people saying we must sanctify really makes me uneasy. when I hear we must it seems we are putting our trust in we, not he! We are sanctified by faith in Christ. Its done to us.
This is an old comment so your views may have changed.
But I would say that a Christian who properly gets the depth and breadth of the miracle of life wants to do all the good works of deep, meaningful prayer, worship, study, fasting, sacraments, devotion, obedience, etc IN GRATITUDE and Faith (better translated as TRUST) which all then helps us to Trust Him all the more and trust ourselves less! :)
We believe in sanctification that flows from our justification. Works are the fruit of an already declaration. We live from assurance not for it.
For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
The concept of justification. As in any mathematical equations, if you get the formula wrong everything follows wrong thus the end result will be wrong. You're a sinner, all have sinned. the verdict, guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Here comes JC, pardoned you. Judicial pardon, final, your slate is clean, every single sin forgiven. Then u die at the same time. Conclusion: you go straight to heaven. Good. The problem is, you didn't die, you're still living. And as you keep on living u cannot avoid sinning, maybe small maybe big. In the end, what do you need??? Another pardon???
Pursue holiness without wich no one will see the lord is talking about believers testimony meaning no one will see the lord in your life the amount of good we do can only flow from our assurance no to gain assurance
It’s actually quite simple. We see from Hebrews chapter 2 the connection between the *_fear of death_* and *_bondage to the devil._* Where a man is subject to the fear of death, he *_will_* be subject to this bondage. The only cure for this is the assurance we have through justification from all things, by faith. Justification does not require sanctification. It’s the other way around.
*_And EVERY man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure_*
(1st John 3:3)
Notice this verse is not a commandment, but a promise. It doesn’t require our participation. We are sanctified by hope. And this hope can only be ours when we can *_rest_* safe in the knowledge that our salvation is settled forever. This also puts away the silly “license to sin” argument. “Every man” means exactly what it says, *_EVERY_* man.
Not some. Not most. All.
But when christians lose sight of this hope, this is where problems come in. False teachers who preach against assurance, bringing christians back under the fear of death through false doctrines of works.
I have some what to say about this matter: I believe as stated in the bible that we are washed, sanctified and justified for the kingdom 1) washed- by the blood once we accept Christ but wait, now we have to prove what we say is true for it is a race not for the swift.
2) we prove our words of our mouth and heart through the fire. When we bear the cross, when the storm come do we still believe or was the seed not sown on good ground.. Once e have been tested and not found wanting then....
3) we are justified when our belief is found to be true, Abraham belief was counted for righteousness... His belief had to be proven not just by his words. God said get away from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you.... For God to know you... You have to Prove our log and we do this by doing His will. So yes the right order is WASHED THEN SANCTIFIED THEN JUSTIFIED.... and not justified and then sanctified. All this is grace.... It is the process of GRACE. Blessing to you from a simple student of the word.
+propheticrevelation --If all of that is true, then how could Paul use the past tense of "justified" in Romans 5:1?
Thanks for that God bless you👋🏼
Salvation was Purchased by Jesus on the cross, he didn’t put a down payment and leave you with the rest, on a pay as you go! He Said “IT IS FINISHED!” Every true believer receives the Holy Spirit, how much you nurture and cooperate with him determines the works in your life, if there are no workes, that is no change in your life, then oddes are you didn’t receive the Holy Spirit, which means you weren’t born again, regenerated, thus still need to be saved by Gods Grace through Your Faith in his work on the cross. Nothing you do saves you, or keeps you saved, your works are for sanctification, NOT Justification.
Well put!
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@William Walker Here is something you may enjoy reading.>>> Consequently, the very idea of faith in Jesus Christ is fused with the obligation to holiness, justice, and truth. Within such an objective lies the sanctifying work of “the law of the Spirit of life” (Romans 8:2). See Rom 8:1-4. Therefore, no Christian can rightly be called Lawless. See 1 Cor 9:21 where Paul identifies “the Law of Christ” which has continental sanctifying plausibility for all Christians. Note: "Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works" (Titus 2:13-14). Here we have the quality and intent of sanctification. Necessarily, while justification and sanctification coexist together, the sanctified / saved life is strictly a work of the Spirit (Phil 1:6; 1 Thess 5:23-24)-through grace we are made the proponent. In 2 Cor 6:17 we are summoned to: Therefore, come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord; do not touch any unclean thing, and I will welcome you. When this Old Testament summons (Isa 52:11; Ezek 20:41) is echoed to the New Testament Church, it is not to be mistaken as an additional prerequisite necessary for salvation [faith plus works]. No, rather this is a call to “the saved” to concur with the sanctifying work of the Spirit as we have already been welcomed in Christ. See 2 Cor 7:1. Hence, Paul reminds the Corinthians that they ARE God’s temple [saved in the present tense]-individually and collectively. Relatively, we are His people with a permanent place with Christ in eternity.
I have been thinking a lot about salvation and it's funny how we don't see the full picture of salvation that is - Justification, Sanctification and Glorification.
It seems to me that we are having a Christianity that is seeking only Justification and Glorification without the Sanctifying work of the Holy Ghost.
Now, we should be careful that we do not get hung on one aspect for if we focus on Sanctification without Justification, we get into works Salvation if we seek Justification and Glorification only, that is humanism.
Romans 8:28-30 shows us the working of God through our salvation and if God is not working, I would be hard pressed to say it may be He never started for He who begun a good work in you, shall bring it into completion.
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
It's all down to Christ salvation is a gift.
I almost do not want to admit that I am a Christian in the Catholic tradition. But because I am Catholic, I have a strong opinion that if an error or an imbalance is to be made in one's faith, the imbalance must favor the side of justification. Unfortunately, in my tradition sanctification is everything; justification is seldom even preached upon. When a person, as myself, comes to believe that Christ is our righteousness the whole matter of sanctification is put into its proper place. Understanding sanctification does not compare to believing in our Justification by Christ. I have seen from both Catholics and Evangelicals serious hangups about "their" creed (i.e. blood vs works, or justification vs sanctification), as if their creed is faith. IMO, a creed or a formula that describes Jesus Christ is not the same as faith in what Christ has done.
This comment is four years old so not sure if you have gone deeper in this.
The Church has always taught that justification and sanctification are inseparable.
That we are justified by God’s Grace alone through Baptism which forgives all sin and makes us clean. We don’t even have to make a decision to receive this Grace.
And then the life of the Catholic is filled with good works to help us learn to know, love, trust, serve and worship him. This is sanctification.
The catechism spells all this out beautifully!
Most Catholics don’t really understand this and so we see the Protestant world as maybe getting this right but our Faith already has the correct teaching. We as lay people just need to learn it fully and then teach it properly (we can’t depend on our dear Priests to do it all).
Blessings.
eternal life jutstification is free
sanctification discipleship costly but we should strive be more like Jesus
What does that mean?
Means just that justified from all sins romansv3 ,: 21 - 26 sanctified to set apart for service that what the meaning of sanctify to purify oneself in a growing sense good news
God grace is the causes of justification and sanctification.. The grace of God in the baptism justified a man conversion of faith TITUS 3:5-7 man cooperate God grace by doing good works TITUS 3:8-9
Sanctification grows inside us.
So do we see sanctification as something we do ourselves or is it a work of the Spirit?
It is a work of the Holy Spirit which requires our cooperation, which cooperation should flow naturally from our new nature in Christ. When Paul says for us to walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh it implies that though we are justified and have a new nature we can still give room to sin. I think the more we grow in our walk with Jesus the more we get just as excited about sanctification as we are about justification .
@@TheTale28 I agree.
Yes! Both!
But we have free will to Trust Him it not.
For me and my family and for the sake of others I will “work hard” to learn to Trust Him more each day. All by His power and all for His glory.
I learn to trust me less and Him more.
Are there different degrees of holiness? I view holiness as you either are holy or you are not. That being said none of us are without sin. Being sanctified is being set apart from the world. We can be set apart for good works or any number of plans God has for us. Ultimately that does not make me holy. I am seen as holy because of my standing in Christ. His righteousness is imputed to me, though I still struggle with sin on a daily basis.
Wow can you see what happens when you believe that you are justified by grace by God alone. We need the grace of Jesus also to be saved. Two declarations of justification. God justifies us for faith in Christ, but Christ justifies us for our good works. Romans 4:25 is pivotal in Romans which is the gospel of obedience to faith, Jesus was delivered for our offences and raised for our justification. We need to be justified by Christ through sanctification of the Holy Spirit, else even though Jesus died on the cross, we would still be dead in our sins as 1 Corinthians 15:17.
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But what do you mean by “made right” by justification? what is the affect on the human as a result of justification? once you use the word “imputed” you must account for the Catholic perspective on justification ...
I don't agree with progressive sanctification, because we already fully sanctified by Jesus on the cross. We can only live in holiness but cannot added holiness to our life, we can not become more holy because of what we do in our live.
I didn't get anything. I will do a deep study later.😅
The Reformed have made his far more complicated than it was ever meant to be. Our salvation is contingent on sanctification. This is why Paul said to _Christians_ in the book of Romans, "If you sow to the flesh, you will die." So long as the Reformed believe an unqualified sola-fide they will feel the difficulty of explaining how works can be necessary in the life of a Christian.
+John6forty-eight --While I seriously disagree with your summary, I would just add that Rome will always fall short of perfect and perpetual obedience and be forced to finish their own "finished" work of Christ in Purgatory.
Or like Paul who said that "_He_ must fill up that which was lacking in Christ's afflictions."
If you begin with a presupposition, and then interpret scripture in light of your assumptions, you will never be able to make sense of verses that do not align with your theology.
If Christ's work is finished and you are completely absolved at the moment of your conversion, then why does Christ tell us to "pray like this. . . forgive us our trespasses" ?
After conversion there would be no need to ask for a forgiveness already granted. Unless we are in need of continual forgiveness, in which case we would still be owed some chastisement for those venial sins not repented of, even after death.
+John6forty-eight For the same reason the Jews were to perform animal sacrifices, to remain in fellowship with God IN THIS PHYSICAL LIFE. Spiritually, it's a done deal at the moment of belief. Once you are born again spiritually you cannot be unborn. The flesh is the sinful man still living in us and he can do nothing but sin. The spirit is what is born-again and this new man cannot sin. Walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. That also means you can walk in the flesh and fulfill the lusts of the flesh, and doing so will kill the flesh...but the Spirit is saved no matter what.
So, you're gnostic?
John6forty-eight not sure where you got that from. I'm Baptist
Where in the Bible does it say the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us?
2 Cor 5:21, "For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (ESV)
Nataly Osores This does not mention imputation. It does not not say we become righteous through imputation.
have you ever ponder why Jesus taught the sermon on the mount or about adultery in divorce and marriage? about loving God and loving men? correction about the temple of God, about the sabbath, and many more teachings?., about Paul's epistles to the churches and brethren; of other apostle's letters and the gospel?
yes Justification is by Grace. (saved by grace. God's act)
Sanctification is by Grace, in a sense that the Holy Spirit works within the believer and that the believer must walk in the Spirit, renewing of the mind, resisting the devil, faith that is genuine, taking heed according to God's word... all in the help and Grace of the Holy Spirit. It is a process. if the Gospel or the bible is solely justification, then there will be of no need for paul's epistles, peter, james, john's epistles, even Jesus' teachings of how to live the holy life.
we are called to be holy because God is Holy. and we cannot do that with our own. We need faith that comes by hearing the word of God, the Holy Spirit that renews our mind, The word of God which is beneficial for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. God calls us to abide in Him, and Him in us (thru the Holy Spirit, Meditating on God's word, prayer)...
but i like that they also emphasized that all the warnings and beseeching in the bible are motivated by God's love, and our response is also (should be) motivated by love (thru faith by Grace empowered by the Holy Spirit)
**I believe that sanctification is synergism**, is a battle of the flesh or the old nature, and working of the Holy Spirit just like what Paul said Romans chapters 6 & 7. We may fall, but we don't want to continue to lie down in our sinful nature thus the scriptures' warnings and beseeching to the holy living. While **Justification is Monergism**
Sanctification is essential in a sense that Christians should not abuse Grace (Romans 6), we have a guideline for genuine faith that produces fruits in James, and Romans, Galatians, in the Gospel, just to name a few.
Justification by faith is essential in a sense that no man may boast because of his/her good works we have a guideline for genuine faith that saves in James, and Romans, Galatians, in the Gospel, just to name a few.
Again, just to iterate my point. What is the WHOLE purpose of the B.I.B.L.E.? If you study the scripture, most of my claims will be familiar to you. It's not just Justification, but also Sanctification... I also believe that there's also that blessed hope of glorification (i believe to be achieved in heaven / the new heaven and new earth / new jerusalem, rewards such as a place in heaven, various crowns, lordship and reign with Christ, glorfied body)
Wow.... well said I've been blessed to this because im confused of this two... thank you for sharing your wisdom... God bless you.
We are all sinners, even the best of us, and apt to sin again. No one is infallible and thus knows the future. To imply "I've been saved"and gifted with "perseverance" to avoid sin is one thing, but that denies freewill as also a free gift from God. Dan Baker is just one example of a protestant Christian pastor who later became a staunch atheist and anti-Christian. Being baptised or "born again" is like getting married to a beautiful person. Its demands faith, trust and perseverance. Like salvation it is not just saying "i do" it is a lifelong lived experience.
Justification comes to us and makes Samctification possible afterwards.
Why only hint at the "other motivations" and the timidity of the words on God's correction? Are we afraid of the antinomian church? God promises to punish us if we do not obey once we have had our sins forgiven and removed--we cannot continue to practice sin with impunity. The difficult, hard and scary warnings are there from Matthew to Revelation. Love and kindness demands our speaking the truth.
Listen, THE primarily issue with this confusion is that people have WRONGLY assumed when Paul says, we are not saved by Works of the Law, that he means we are saved without any effort or obedience. Hogwash! Paul is only making the point that all of the ceremony and external circumcision and ritual are done away with. Jesus still has commands and laws that we must follow. Justification is not a “get out of jail free” card. Justification gives us a right standing with God, from which we, through the Spirits power, willfully engage in our sanctification and crucify the flesh with equal motivations of the promise of blessing and the fear of God.
I'm not a big fan of TGC but I think these guys have hit the nail on the head here.
I am reformed and therefore believe in the doctrines of grace however, I have fallen victim to the over emphasis of grace together with the under emphasis of sanctification. This has occasionally led me to comfortably fall back into sin, only to come back in repentance again. Looking back, I can see that the Holy Spirit was rebuking me; which is evidence of both preserving grace and the importance of temporal sanctification, no matter how slow and meandering.
Just like the apostles Paul says:
"Shall we then continue sinning that grace may abound?"
Every time we take our eyes off Jesus and fall into sin, the Holy Spirit convicts us and presents us anew with our crucified saviour which reminds us of the heinousness of sin.
Our new nature causes us to desire to do justice (desire to obey the ten commandments), to love mercy (thank God for our justification) and walk humbly with our God (accept His rebuke when it comes).
At the end of the day; if we were not destined for growth in sanctification in this life, why on earth would we be convicted of sin in this life?
Wow, how confused are Christians?
Thinking you can lose salvation for sin is not trusting in works, it is understanding that grace is conditional upon obedience. Jesus said that it is only if you forgive (a work) that will be forgiven (grace). This does not mean the justification is owed or 'of' works, it is still of grace. The reason Paul wrote on this idea of works righteousness being false is because Jews thought circumcision and other works of the law meant God owed them justification. Obeying Christ for the keeping of forgiveness is not something for which the person can be owed but so many Christians think it is so they reject the warnings and remain lawless. Then they scornfully say the God fearing Christians do not believe in God. Well how do you fear someone you don't believe in? Or they say we do not believe the promise of God? He promised you will go to hell if you do not turn from wilful sin. Do you believe? God is the one that grants salvation-faith, he gives it to those who have a righteous conscience (Rom 2:5 and 14-15).
Where's the Holy Spirit ? The agent of sanctification . You cannot do the things that you would . Do not Grieve the Holy Spirit . They have a purely cognitive view of sanctification .
this is what happens when you add the qualifier "alone " to faith. you end up excluding sanctification making it optional but not really necessary. these speakers are confused because they violated scripture by adding to it something that isn't in the text.
There is no controversy! The Church Fathers know best... Justification and Sanctification go "hand in hand", therefore salvation (Justification) is a process!
I agree. There should be no controversy. But once you have Christ in your heart you have been Justified. It is sanctification that is a lifetime process because we are sinners. Our "Label" of being a non-believer is taken away and we become new. Justification is a event while sanctification is a process.
Confusing people. There is not such thing as progressive sanctification. TRANSFORMATION AND PURIFICATION much better Biblical.
The imputed righteousness of Christ comes after sanctification, it is that easy,
Read 1 Peter 1:2. After becoming a believer, and sanctification of the Spirit, then obedience, are before the sprinkling of the blood of Christ on the mercy seat for us individually.
Grace is mercy, it is a judgement not an attitude or feeling, and it has to be given strictly as specified in the gospels including Romans. God is not your judge, but Christ is, we shall be judged.
Grace isn't Mercy. Mercy is a person not getting what they deserve. So where I deserve punishment, I don't get punished because of mercy. Grace is getting what you don't deserve. I can't earn or work for salvation, it's a gift. They go hand in hand but they're very different. We're not saved by mercy, we're saved by grace
The gospel is not solely justification ? No way, this is false teaching, the gospel is solely justification. If you look at the old testament, the whole economy of sacrifices was to atone for sins. Sacrifices did not improve a person or make them better or make them sin less, they forgave sins, plain and simple. And so does Christ, Hebrews is clear how Christ's sacrifice is more perfect, it allows to have a perfect conscience towards God (have assurance that all our sins past present and future have been taken away at the cross). This is justification, it is the gospel. Our good works (sanctification) are not the gospel. With that said good works always follow justification, not necessarily outwardly but inwardly in that a christian has an attitude of repentance like the tax collector when he said "God have mercy on me a sinner" and went justified. Defining sanctification as performance is extremely dangerous, white washed tombs do not go to heaven. A christian may perform worse than an unbeliever outwardly, but God looks at the heart, and a christian has a clean heart because of faith, not because of good works.
Protestant beliefs are contradictory and self refuting which means it cannot be of God.
Belief 1) Good works is only a fruit or sign of salvation
Belief 2) Man will always produce bad fruit (sin)
Conclusion: No Protestant is saved because they will always produce bad fruit
What a bunch of nonsense. They don't even define justification or sanctification. What bloviating! Go run a school or a hospital, do the work that Jesus told you to do, and stop wasting time and money on such nonsense conversations that mean nothing.
John 14:15 If You love me, keep my commandments. This guy said keep my commands. The word must not be altered. The commandments are the 10 that God wrote in STONE. The Devil has deceived many into thinking that Sunday is God's Sabbath. He is a God that does not change. The Sabbath is a sign between God and his people and it is Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. The commandments are Love, the first 5 to God the second 5 to man.
Constance you quote one of many verses of obedience towards salvation, from reading the NT clearly we need to show a change in our lives, dedication to not sin and do good. Yet as this video showed pastors are careful not to require obedience to commandments for Salvation, just a casual appreciation of 'finished works by Jesus on the cross' as salvation, and nothing we need do towards salvation.
Romans is the gospel of obedience to faith for Christians, backed by John, James and Peter having obedience as essential for Salvation. Even Jude 1:20-21 has the need for communion with the Holy Ghost, and mercy of Jesus Christ for eternal life.
Romans clearly informs me that we need two justifications, two declarations of righteousness, as Romans 3:25 & 3:26. The righteousness of God for faith in Christ, and the righteousness of Christ for our good works of faith. Faith being complete trust and obedience.
Boy do I not like Young - he is a full-blown classic Pietist.
I disagree. Self reflection and good works is not pietism. Pietism is a twisting if what they are saying such as hyper-calvinism is a twisting of pure Calvinism.
@@chancha807 Pietism is all about self-monitoring - self-works evaluation.
sanctification is not necessary for salvation and we don't have to grow in holiness. Ask Samson, a hero of the faith mentioned in Hebrews 11, instead of growing in holiness he went into a prostitute and the holy spirit left him, yet he is in heaven right now. Sanctification is not an aspect of salvation. Luther had it right that justification is by grace through faith, sanctification on the other hand are the spontaneous works that the holy spirit does in the Christian. The gospel equals justification, when we are freed from the guilt of sin, yes we are freed from the power of sin. But this are not separate, once our guilt is taken away, sin automatically loses its power. Justification produces sanctification automatically, spontaneously. The apostle Paul clearly taught that the power of sin is the law, saw as soon as our sins are forgiven and we are not under the law, sin loses its power instantly but this is the result of not being under the law. The power of sin is the law taught Paul in his letter to the Corinthians, also Romans 7 shows the same thing.