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You should, I have 3! 6 overall though. I’ve owned different model LC8 engines and thumpers and they’ve been nothing but reliable and fun! I’m not sure why they have misconception of being unreliable. Super easy to wrench on, which is important for me because proper maintenance is everything
Same here with Boun Vi, I have a 2 & on 990 SMT done 150kkm. Did 42k in a year few years back as daily use & 700km long distance every weekend for a year & had been absolutely bulletproof.
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr I haven't ridden the 790's yet, but I've owned the 1190 RC8, 1190 ADV-R and my favorite engine this far, the 1290 SD-GT. Amazing how they have that much power and intoxicating torque!
Cross between Enduro and Naked sports is perfect hybrid model, One cannot go wrong with This one. Perfect for occasional touring (on & off road) And tackling urban environment with naked bike style riding. Perfect! Nice Review Though.
If I was asked to choose between adaptive cruise or blind-spot, I think I'd take the blind-spot option. Everything else looks good, will be testing when we are released back into the wild.
It is a perfect year to be a motorcyclist... so many adventure touring options and middle weight bikes as well. This KTM finally looks good, not so praying mantis.
I owned a 2015 Multistrada. It was a POS. Incompetent suspension - wanted to do tank slappies all the time. Throttle maps meant any old lady could out drag you at the lights. Parts made out of cocoa tin. Ludicrously expensive repairs. An oil pan full of metal shavings - the longest 3/16 inch. I now have a 1290 SAS - great bike.
I was all keen for my next upgrade to be an AT. This bike has changed my mind. KTM reliability still concerns me so will wait a year to see how this bike fares. Current bike still has life in it so no hurry.
I would rather have a 1290 Adv S without all the tech and regular WP Suspension. Less things to go wrong and I don’t need a TFT. Also the price would be a little cheaper. I would buy it in a heartbeat!
I share your thoughts. The answer would have been an 1190, but they only sold it in the US as the R model. The cost of switching it to S spec would have been prohibitive, so I got a 1290 SAS and so far so good. I expect one day it will cost me a fortune, but right now it is a quick, competent, easy bike to ride, or if I turn off the traction control, a complete hooligan.
I’m ambivalent about the adaptive cruise control in my car; think I’ll pass for a bike. It begs the question: Who, or more importantly what, is being given control? Not all electronics are created to enhance the riding experience.
The rear blindspot radar is interesting but the Ducati multistrada drinks fuel at twice the rate of the KTM and most other bikes in its class. I will be picking up one of these KTMs soon.
Hey Motobob, really liked your review of the Triumph Trident. When are you doing a ride review of the 1290 SAS ? Maybe add some spice with direct comparison with competitor bikes from Ducati & BMW ?
I’d love it for sure, an excellent package in a highly desirable motorcycle and a great price. Only challenge for me using my bike on a daily 120 mile commute is reliability and maintenance of that chain/sprocket which is where my current GSA ticks all the boxes👍Even if it’s a £4K premium to the KTM🤔
Great vid as always. This bike is the pinnacle of something... I just don’t know what. All this tech is great on a road bike, but there’s a mega amount of electronics to go wrong on a world crossing ADV no? Who is this bike for? Plus Bret Tkacs is having issues with his KTM.
Awesome rig. Buy it because the adaptive cruise is on GREAT bike. Not because it's (currently) the cheapest way to experience it. The tech will trickle down to more affordable bikes very soon.
Great video! I would love to own a KTM again but really nervous about their reliability after the issues and poor customer service I had with my 1190. They should really offer a 3yr warranty like BMW to help put your mind at ease. Be keen to see if they have fixed the excessive heat problem coming of the rear cylinder and exhaust header.
KTM sell an insulated rear header, but it is $420. I removed mine and wrapped it in DEI EXO tape. Problem solved for $40. I think the shock might also appreciate the reduced heat.
@@bikeryder757 yeah, very nice indeed. But is it worth the money? Also I don't like the sandbag designs I had a small hope it wouldnt follow the non lc8 adventures. Also now I am more interested in the norden 901 but I am addicted to the 1290s power.
You didn't tell one of the most important thing which is the NEW AIR BOX DESIGN, so you no longer need to remove the tank to access to the air filter. Radar is a gimmick, you missing the bigger picture.
Hey Manfred, I’m in AUS and keen on this bike. When are you expecting to get your bike? The dealer I spoke to in Sydney on global launch day didn’t even know the new model was coming out..
I wish KTM would do something to eliminate the horrible heat coming form the engine to the rider seat. I soled my 2019 just because of that and bought an s1000xr. Other then that it was an amazing machine. I do live in southern California so this doesn't really apply to the UK guests here. CHEERS
Remove the rear header. Pay KTM $420 for an insulated one, or wrap the original in DEI EXO for $40 and put it back. Problem solved. My SAS lives in Southern California, too.
Hope its a bit lower than my 2017 only thing I struggle with , love the bike done only 8000 miles on it hope they give me a fair trade in though , we've tried other bikes nothing comes close to the 1290 ktm it does everything just hope the new one comes up to scratch fingers crossed.
I only ever used Sport and Off-road. You really don’t need Rain, that’s what your wrist is for. The suspension on the earlier models is incredible, so having real time adjustment will be fantastic...it’s really the best suspension. WP is so much better than the Japanese offerings and Öhlins as well. Active cruise? No thanks.
At 5'9" KTM's have been intimidating to me to try and hop on them. I do of course, but I've only show-roomed them, not actually demo-ridden one. The multistrada is a total gasoline pig, and I don't know what Duc was thinking...that bike is out of the picture for any long rides. I'll go look at this one, and check the seats out, but I'm thinking it's still going to be a taller rider's bike. The engine on these KTMs is probably better actually than the BMW variable valve thing...Even Suzuki has them beat in that category. But, I fit like a glove in the Beemer seat. It makes a big difference.
Like all the effort to keep up with BMW 1250 GS & Ducati Multistrada v4S, but it just looks cheap compared to either of those two. I like the new Multistrada, & think it's worth the extra $$
Personally I like riding my 1290, so I always switch off ABS and traction control, don’t have a quick shifter and have used cruise control once. I think the art of riding a bike is slowly disappearing
@@trevormillard1339 true but I’ve never driven that car in the rain either. But, rain on a bike is not a huge issue. When I had my BMW K75s I drove all over the east coast of the US for many years.
@@kwak1k umm I don't think so we cannot confine others or tell them to give up riding everyone has their own choices some like the raw riding feel with no interference some like these creature comforts all in all they belong to the same community
it probably depends on the height of the rider. if you are short, you select low, and the bike then auto-adjusts the preload in a range around that "low" setting if you are tall, you select high, and it auto-adjusts around a higher setting.
Bougth, a software scooter with a crazy beast of 160 hp with a mental torque at 3000. That is the most beautiful, confortable mental crazy powerfull and easy bike you can have in your life. Bye Bye GS, DUCATI old stuff. that is a perfect bike, never though possible to build.
I must admit my three Yamahas were far and away my most reliable bikes, but now I have a 1290 SAS because the Super Tenere was too boring. One day it will probably cost me an arm and a leg, but it is great fun.
in my country gs adv,v4 multistrada and new ktm adv. will have the same price with a gap 1-2000 euro which is nonsense when we talk for bikes costing over 20k euro.The ktm will have no luck,cannot be competitive to bmw and duc,the historical sales talk.
Are you seriously telling me we need all this technology ? If you want it and can afford it I guess go for it but it’s almost getting dangerous where the rider “feels” safer so switches off to a degree negating the benefits. Cars have been going this way for years and are not making better drivers. Only my opinion of course. 👍
All it needs now is self-deploying training wheels... Since the bike basically drives itself, might as well go all the way and not have to balance it either. Wouldn't want any of those fat, middle aged buyers of these bikes to actually feel like they are getting off the couch to do anything.... would we? 🙄
I just don't see the point of cruise control. Modern motorcyclists are getting lazy. Stay awake. The less technology the better. That is one hideous bike.
Being that KTM has a hardcore off-road heritage, that would never ever happen, lol. Aside from maintenance, what benefit do you see going to shaft drive?
@@boonboom3528 Tbh; maintenance is probably the only real plus for me.....maybe also a more direct feel to the rear wheel and reduced noise (but that´s minimum) I had many chain driven bikes and lubing them was always a bit of a pain.
@@julianlewis4305 I hear that the self oiling devices work really well but I hear you, cleaning the spokes on my 1190 Adventure and 500 EXC are a pain to clean, especially if you are OCD, lol
Just a shame they don't have optional colour schemes other than that hideous orange. It's also a shame they suffer from lame reliability and rip customers off for quick shifters and other software already installed on their bikes. Wouldn't have one given, thanks.
Absolutely loathe adaptive cruise control on cars...but on bikes???? They must have lost their minds....next thing they show movies on that TFT....Wacko times are upon us!
Disagree. Im 165cm Or 5'5". Im tippy toes at the old multistrada at 850mm seat height. This beast is 849mm. Skills can be learned before jumping to this. Im confident at 1 foot down, sliding my butt. I suggest watching jocelin snow. Shes 5 feet i think. Rides the 1200gsa well.
@@sefisredtv8991 i know what you mean ! but i hate slide on my but every single time and tippy toes with my wife on the back plus camping gears for 2 of us i need to be at least 1 foot down comfortably and 2 feet planted on the ground when i need it !! So now don't get me wrong i can ride the tallest bike no problem which i did many times since 2002 but now i like to be lazy and comfortable.... i by the way i actually 1.67 👍cheers 🍻
I'm not even looking at adv bikes. Motobob is just a good reviewer. Always watch his videos.
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Have to admit, it looks fabulous! My god it's the 1st time I am considering a KTM.
same 100% to me...🤣
You should, I have 3! 6 overall though. I’ve owned different model LC8 engines and thumpers and they’ve been nothing but reliable and fun! I’m not sure why they have misconception of being unreliable. Super easy to wrench on, which is important for me because proper maintenance is everything
Same here with Boun Vi, I have a 2 & on 990 SMT done 150kkm. Did 42k in a year few years back as daily use & 700km long distance every weekend for a year & had been absolutely bulletproof.
@@boonboom3528
The 790 engine is crap with so many faults, not good enough on such an expensive bike.
The 950 LC8 engine was good.
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr I haven't ridden the 790's yet, but I've owned the 1190 RC8, 1190 ADV-R and my favorite engine this far, the 1290 SD-GT. Amazing how they have that much power and intoxicating torque!
Respect for the stunt rider that got those shots.
Cross between Enduro and Naked sports is perfect hybrid model, One cannot go wrong with This one. Perfect for occasional touring (on & off road) And tackling urban environment with naked bike style riding. Perfect! Nice Review Though.
I'm excited about this update as this is on the top of my list for an adventure bike purchase next year. Great channel, great video.
KTMs big bikes are scary looking , terrifying machines. That is why I love mine one
1:48 dude's on another level . .
I sold my soul to KTM in 2018. Never looking back. I have owned every bike on wheels in the 30 years; the super adv s is HANDS DOWN the best.
If I was asked to choose between adaptive cruise or blind-spot, I think I'd take the blind-spot option. Everything else looks good, will be testing when we are released back into the wild.
Nice to know what will be available on the Gen 3 Super Duke GT
Great vid. Very clear. Well done for not mentioning the looks - we can decide that ourselves. Thanks!
It is a perfect year to be a motorcyclist... so many adventure touring options and middle weight bikes as well. This KTM finally looks good, not so praying mantis.
I owned a 2015 Multistrada. It was a POS. Incompetent suspension - wanted to do tank slappies all the time. Throttle maps meant any old lady could out drag you at the lights. Parts made out of cocoa tin. Ludicrously expensive repairs. An oil pan full of metal shavings - the longest 3/16 inch. I now have a 1290 SAS - great bike.
I was all keen for my next upgrade to be an AT. This bike has changed my mind. KTM reliability still concerns me so will wait a year to see how this bike fares. Current bike still has life in it so no hurry.
I would rather have a 1290 Adv S without all the tech and regular WP Suspension. Less things to go wrong and I don’t need a TFT. Also the price would be a little cheaper. I would buy it in a heartbeat!
I share your thoughts. The answer would have been an 1190, but they only sold it in the US as the R model. The cost of switching it to S spec would have been prohibitive, so I got a 1290 SAS and so far so good. I expect one day it will cost me a fortune, but right now it is a quick, competent, easy bike to ride, or if I turn off the traction control, a complete hooligan.
I’m ambivalent about the adaptive cruise control in my car; think I’ll pass for a bike. It begs the question: Who, or more importantly what, is being given control? Not all electronics are created to enhance the riding experience.
The rear blindspot radar is interesting but the Ducati multistrada drinks fuel at twice the rate of the KTM and most other bikes in its class. I will be picking up one of these KTMs soon.
Any bike with features that allow me to "mentally switch off" is not the bike for me. Riding is Zen to me.
Awesome review Bob! Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
Hey Motobob, really liked your review of the Triumph Trident. When are you doing a ride review of the 1290 SAS ? Maybe add some spice with direct comparison with competitor bikes from Ducati & BMW ?
I wonder if the adaptive cruise control will work if the black boxes have mud on them. 🤔
Great, fast overview. 👍
Saving for this 1290 SAS . Period.
I’d love it for sure, an excellent package in a highly desirable motorcycle and a great price. Only challenge for me using my bike on a daily 120 mile commute is reliability and maintenance of that chain/sprocket which is where my current GSA ticks all the boxes👍Even if it’s a £4K premium to the KTM🤔
Great vid as always. This bike is the pinnacle of something... I just don’t know what. All this tech is great on a road bike, but there’s a mega amount of electronics to go wrong on a world crossing ADV no? Who is this bike for? Plus Bret Tkacs is having issues with his KTM.
Awesome rig. Buy it because the adaptive cruise is on GREAT bike. Not because it's (currently) the cheapest way to experience it. The tech will trickle down to more affordable bikes very soon.
Gorgeous Bike! It is making me think about trading my 2015 1290 SA to this new one
Great video motobob 😇👍
Nice price. Don't need the radar, but very interested in the active suspension. What's the warranty on the new KTM (let's face it, it will be needed)?
2 very exciting years.
Great video! I would love to own a KTM again but really nervous about their reliability after the issues and poor customer service I had with my 1190. They should really offer a 3yr warranty like BMW to help put your mind at ease. Be keen to see if they have fixed the excessive heat problem coming of the rear cylinder and exhaust header.
KTM sell an insulated rear header, but it is $420. I removed mine and wrapped it in DEI EXO tape. Problem solved for $40. I think the shock might also appreciate the reduced heat.
Now you should have a 5 years warranty from KTM
I have a 2018SAS love it. My only question is should I upgrade???
Same here and nope.. unless you don't know what to do with the money
@@nickab9719 I was thinking the same as you. I don't need more off-road capabilities. The updated electronics would be nice but not necessary
@@bikeryder757 yeah, very nice indeed. But is it worth the money? Also I don't like the sandbag designs I had a small hope it wouldnt follow the non lc8 adventures. Also now I am more interested in the norden 901 but I am addicted to the 1290s power.
You didn't tell one of the most important thing which is the NEW AIR BOX DESIGN, so you no longer need to remove the tank to access to the air filter. Radar is a gimmick, you missing the bigger picture.
I’ve ordered probably the first one in oz can’t wait 🥰😃
Hey Manfred, I’m in AUS and keen on this bike. When are you expecting to get your bike? The dealer I spoke to in Sydney on global launch day didn’t even know the new model was coming out..
@@derekbrand7127 When I spoke to them I didn’t know either or they were just hiding something I think I get it April
@@manfred3018 thanks and enjoy!
I wish KTM would do something to eliminate the horrible heat coming form the engine to the rider seat.
I soled my 2019 just because of that and bought an s1000xr.
Other then that it was an amazing machine.
I do live in southern California so this doesn't really apply to the UK guests here. CHEERS
Remove the rear header. Pay KTM $420 for an insulated one, or wrap the original in DEI EXO for $40 and put it back. Problem solved. My SAS lives in Southern California, too.
Hope its a bit lower than my 2017 only thing I struggle with , love the bike done only 8000 miles on it hope they give me a fair trade in though , we've tried other bikes nothing comes close to the 1290 ktm it does everything just hope the new one comes up to scratch fingers crossed.
When is the review for super adventure S coming?
This week. It's been filmed, just need time to finish the edit.
Good review, and very best product knowledge, adventure bike its always be interest for every traveller biker
WHAT A BEAUTY !!!!
Nice video, thank you.
I only ever used Sport and Off-road. You really don’t need Rain, that’s what your wrist is for.
The suspension on the earlier models is incredible, so having real time adjustment will be fantastic...it’s really the best suspension. WP is so much better than the Japanese offerings and Öhlins as well. Active cruise? No thanks.
ktm guys goes mad! radar and magnetic suspension on adv bike?! where stiffer frame and improved reliability?
Really good package, but im kind of hyped about hayabusa, which is going to be announced on feb 4th or 5th
Does the £15000 include quick shifter,heated grips,hill start,luggage,auto blipped,and have they extended the warranty. 3 years Bmw 4 years ducati .?
Er...........no.
good alternative to the Ducati Multistrada
That bike has a face only a mother could love..
Not even KTM can lure me into a new bike away from my Super Adventure T.
My 2018 ktm 1290s just got stolen, I did t like this new look until I saw the finished product so it’s back on the maybe list
Why they shortened the daytime running light (DLR)??????? The bike still is looking good, but, I liked that front.
Why would KTM skip on the bind spot radar. Doesn't make sense.
Rear radar on the Ducati..? That's what mirrors are used for...
Will you make an 890 video ?
Do you ride motorbikes or just do voice overs?
Riding vids will start again soon, but we’ve got a covid lockdown and snow atm 🤷♂️
Suspension is good. But it does not even come close to the ESA on the GS.
At 5'9" KTM's have been intimidating to me to try and hop on them. I do of course, but I've only show-roomed them, not actually demo-ridden one. The multistrada is a total gasoline pig, and I don't know what Duc was thinking...that bike is out of the picture for any long rides. I'll go look at this one, and check the seats out, but I'm thinking it's still going to be a taller rider's bike. The engine on these KTMs is probably better actually than the BMW variable valve thing...Even Suzuki has them beat in that category. But, I fit like a glove in the Beemer seat. It makes a big difference.
Nice bike.
Like all the effort to keep up with BMW 1250 GS & Ducati Multistrada v4S, but it just looks cheap compared to either of those two. I like the new Multistrada, & think it's worth the extra $$
Looks mean and decent price 👍🏼
With Tech pack and heated gripsWe are looking around £16,400
Love it!
To think this bike cost just £995 more than my 1190 did nearly 8 years ago ... how do they do all that new tech for that price ????
I''ll keep my r1250GS!!
The beast in adv version
If Duke 390 and Darth Vader had a child.
Personally I like riding my 1290, so I always switch off ABS and traction control, don’t have a quick shifter and have used cruise control once. I think the art of riding a bike is slowly disappearing
I use my SAS cruise control often on freeways for a more relaxing ride - love it.
@@67daltonknox out of all the mods I do like that one the best
I'll be visiting a dealer to take a closer look.
When I watch these videos it makes me want to sell my muscle car and go back to riding!
Until it rains that is
@@trevormillard1339 true but I’ve never driven that car in the rain either. But, rain on a bike is not a huge issue. When I had my BMW K75s I drove all over the east coast of the US for many years.
Hands down KTM destroyed the competition...
Technology has come a long way now we having autonomous tech on the bikes
Ridiculous isn't it. People who buy into this should give up riding,
@@kwak1k umm I don't think so we cannot confine others or tell them to give up riding everyone has their own choices some like the raw riding feel with no interference some like these creature comforts all in all they belong to the same community
Sounds extremely expensive to fix... Learn to ride and you won’t need all them fancy buttons lol
Man and we wonder why the price of the big bikes is going through the roof
PCPs
So the “auto“ leveling system has three settings low, medium and high? Who can make up this crap LOL
it probably depends on the height of the rider.
if you are short, you select low, and the bike then auto-adjusts the preload in a range around that "low" setting
if you are tall, you select high, and it auto-adjusts around a higher setting.
God I love KTM
Dear God, the headlight is even taller.
I wanted a 1090 but since they axed it I'm going to pass... too many things that can go wrong...
Bougth, a software scooter with a crazy beast of 160 hp with a mental torque at 3000. That is the most beautiful, confortable mental crazy powerfull and easy bike you can have in your life. Bye Bye GS, DUCATI old stuff. that is a perfect bike, never though possible to build.
More shit to go wrong 👍
Give it a few more years and biking culture would be like just sit on the bike enter the destination the bike shall do the rest.
A spoke wheel option for S model will make this bike best selling! Ducati and BMW already does that. C'mon KTM.
There is at powerparts. Just saw it a while ago
Apparently KTM ‘s are not very reliable bikes. I go with Japanese makers. They can be a bit boring but...
I must admit my three Yamahas were far and away my most reliable bikes, but now I have a 1290 SAS because the Super Tenere was too boring. One day it will probably cost me an arm and a leg, but it is great fun.
in my country gs adv,v4 multistrada and new ktm adv. will have the same price with a gap 1-2000 euro which is nonsense when we talk for bikes costing over 20k euro.The ktm will have no luck,cannot be competitive to bmw and duc,the historical sales talk.
If it were shaft drive, I'd seriously consider it.
Whereas I would never buy another shaft drive bike - 100lb that I don't want.
KTM or Ducati, BMW is not even on my radar lol. However KTM didnt do shit to the engine so I will keep my 2019 and be happy!
God it’s ugly.. I want one.
Are you seriously telling me we need all this technology ? If you want it and can afford it I guess go for it but it’s almost getting dangerous where the rider “feels” safer so switches off to a degree negating the benefits. Cars have been going this way for years and are not making better drivers. Only my opinion of course. 👍
All it needs now is self-deploying training wheels... Since the bike basically drives itself, might as well go all the way and not have to balance it either. Wouldn't want any of those fat, middle aged buyers of these bikes to actually feel like they are getting off the couch to do anything.... would we? 🙄
Spot on, fat, lazy, bike snob tossers, they're everywhere 😂
I just don't see the point of cruise control. Modern motorcyclists are getting lazy. Stay awake. The less technology the better. That is one hideous bike.
If you have to go a long way on a freeway, it's great. I wouldn't buy another bike without cruise control any more than I would buy a car without it.
As a proud owner of a KTM 1290 super adventure S I don’t like the look of this One that Front headlight looks horrible
I prefer riding motorcycle by myself,. don't need computer for that.
I won´t consider it until it gets a drive-shaft
Being that KTM has a hardcore off-road heritage, that would never ever happen, lol. Aside from maintenance, what benefit do you see going to shaft drive?
@@boonboom3528 Tbh; maintenance is probably the only real plus for me.....maybe also a more direct feel to the rear wheel and reduced noise (but that´s minimum) I had many chain driven bikes and lubing them was always a bit of a pain.
@@julianlewis4305 I hear that the self oiling devices work really well but I hear you, cleaning the spokes on my 1190 Adventure and 500 EXC are a pain to clean, especially if you are OCD, lol
This bike is for sale in Turkey for 22500 £. Ridiculous price.
just wish these bikes werent so tall
Just a shame they don't have optional colour schemes other than that hideous orange. It's also a shame they suffer from lame reliability and rip customers off for quick shifters and other software already installed on their bikes. Wouldn't have one given, thanks.
The long way home rewieved it a day ago :)
Their review wasnt nearly as detailed/informative; it was as though they rushed it to press.
@@rideronthestormc968 it was enough. But the fact remains its not the earliest review as its been told
Absolutely loathe adaptive cruise control on cars...but on bikes???? They must have lost their minds....next thing they show movies on that TFT....Wacko times are upon us!
KTM all the way...
I’ll just wait for Japanese bikes to carry some of this tech it won’t be long....
Hehe.yep
Yep and it will barely make 110 hp and have the fun factor in sex appeal of a beached walrus
@@Captndarty But at least I’ll be riding it, not stuck at home with a zillion electronic problems and oil leaks
KTM!
Keep Taking Money!
@@kwak1k Don't had any problems so far. But if you don't like, go see something else.
Thd point is you can only buy this bike if you're 6' tall 🤔
Disagree. Im 165cm Or 5'5". Im tippy toes at the old multistrada at 850mm seat height. This beast is 849mm. Skills can be learned before jumping to this. Im confident at 1 foot down, sliding my butt.
I suggest watching jocelin snow. Shes 5 feet i think. Rides the 1200gsa well.
@@sefisredtv8991 i know what you mean ! but i hate slide on my but every single time and tippy toes with my wife on the back plus camping gears for 2 of us i need to be at least 1 foot down comfortably and 2 feet planted on the ground when i need it !! So now don't get me wrong i can ride the tallest bike no problem which i did many times since 2002 but now i like to be lazy and comfortable.... i by the way i actually 1.67 👍cheers 🍻
They are very advance with very advanced price
It looks awfull, and knowing ktm it will have lots of problems.
The LC8 950 was the last good motor they made.
Looks far to complicated