Fall of Nargothrond - Children Of Hurin - Middle Earth #2.9 DOCUMENTARY

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  • @WizardsandWarriors
    @WizardsandWarriors  Рік тому +19

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    • @Sandbarfight
      @Sandbarfight Рік тому

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      @me0101001000 Рік тому

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    • @richardthomas9497
      @richardthomas9497 Рік тому

      Thank you for the update of Túrin Turambar. I once again recommend anime/manga as a source for future lore videos.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +1

      This was a nice video. But when's your next Sci-Fi coming?

    • @redxhand
      @redxhand Рік тому +2

      Still waiting for Arslan and Altair record 👀

  • @alexandersturnn4530
    @alexandersturnn4530 Рік тому +213

    There is really only one way to summarize this whole affair:
    "Dammit, Turin..."

    • @ParleLeVu
      @ParleLeVu Рік тому +7

      Turin's greatest enemy is his stupidity.
      But he is not alone. Beleg could have tried waking Turin BEFORE cutting the rope, because you never know. Orodreth could actually think logically ("a much greater force than mine got wiped, maybe I shouldn't challenge those who wiped it") and not compromise his strong position. The bridge-building is so god damn dumb I can't even fathom it. Annihilation will follow if they fail and the bridge stands, so they BOTH attack a much greater force AND make the bridge a freaking monument to craftsmanship. It's like playing russian roulette with 4 bullets and pulling the trigger 3 times. And later on Turin goes mad and kills himself because he banged his sister. Why? I mean, disgusting, but she's not pregnant or anything. You have nothing to live for because you were tricked into doing something you think is vile? Why not just effing gather yourself and use your insane might to kill every servant of the dark lord you see? At least that will make up for some of your mistakes.

    • @alexandersturnn4530
      @alexandersturnn4530 Рік тому +12

      @@ParleLeVu Actually, she was pregnant. And killed herself for it when Glaurung told her the truth AND she thought Turin was dead.
      But that wasn't the only reason Turin killed himself, there were a myriad of others.

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger Рік тому +83

    Amazing. Shows how Tolkien thought of pride, regardless of its intent.

    • @EgoEroTergum
      @EgoEroTergum Рік тому +10

      The road to Hell...

    • @vimalpatel4060
      @vimalpatel4060 Рік тому

      Hey, Christopher, thanks for the comment. This made me think of why chest day everyday would be like, beware folks. Wonder if burly men, with burly eyes, a thing in Tolkien's days, were mass gymnasium's a reality as it is for us? I promise of this is related to pride, puffed up nature, narrow mindedness.

    • @Vandelberger
      @Vandelberger Рік тому +1

      @@vimalpatel4060 yes, gyms have always been a thing. Gladiators, for example, ate a large amount of beans and protein to bulk up. It was for protection of organs as well as just looks.

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed Рік тому +134

    Yeah, one shouldn't invite this guy to their house. He will probably charm your family, and then convince them to do something really stupid.

    • @mgeldarion58
      @mgeldarion58 Рік тому +32

      And worst of all, with best and most noble intentions in his mind.
      Still a jerk, though.

    • @BigMikey1776
      @BigMikey1776 Рік тому +2

      Money on your dresser is missing and your daughter is knocked up I’ve seen it many times…

    • @localneo-graphic4647
      @localneo-graphic4647 2 дні тому

      King was a total bitch though, I mean he was warned by an emissary of Cirdan with a message from a LITERAL GOD that their location was compromised and to gtfo of Nargothrond, and the king was conflicted between upsetting his guest or watching his entire kingdom die, and he chose the latter lmao.

  • @myriadmediamusings
    @myriadmediamusings Рік тому +62

    Been awaiting yet dreading this part, both because this series on the First Age has been great so far and because of the horrifically tragic moments that happen in the Children of Hurin.

  • @Rockstar-bq5fm
    @Rockstar-bq5fm Рік тому +33

    Probably my favourite Tolkien story strangely enough. All his work is masterful but this is such a different and tragic anomaly to the rest of his work it stands quite unique for me

  • @EgoEroTergum
    @EgoEroTergum Рік тому +27

    CoH is my favorite Tolkien story. It's the most like an ancient Norse saga - the heroes are strong, and emotional, and deeply flawed; and the villains are powerful and dangerous in ways that the heroes cannot defend against.

  • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
    @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Рік тому +47

    Turin, what an epic tale. I definitely think that "The Children of Hurin" should be made into a movie.. such a riveting tale

    • @tarmynastyr
      @tarmynastyr Рік тому +13

      If it gets made, I hope Jackson does it and not Amazon.

    • @Santirata
      @Santirata Рік тому +5

      Could work as a 2-3 season show also!

    • @dougmartin2007
      @dougmartin2007 Рік тому +7

      Possibly. The audience will have to be ready for a tragic hero. I would fear test audiences don't get that the pride of Turin is a bad thing, and rewrites turn him into the modern hero who is always right, never gets hurt, and kicks all ass with no setbacks.

    • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
      @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Рік тому +1

      @@dougmartin2007 it's a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @corvus2512
      @corvus2512 Рік тому +2

      I was actually thinking the same, this would make a great TV series but then I remembered who would be making it and how they absolutely butchered that other LOTR show which will remain nameless..... perhaps it’s better Tolkien’s works are left on the pages and not touched by incompetent and talentless hacks.... not worth the risk

  • @minatodroger7890
    @minatodroger7890 Рік тому +26

    And poor Hurin had to watch all of this

  • @johnsmead5096
    @johnsmead5096 Рік тому +144

    turin: *rips the top off of a beer, chugs it, eats the can* "morgoth aint sh!t. I can take him."
    gwindor: "dude thats a terri-"
    orodreth: "shut up, nerd! cant you see this guy f@cks?"

  • @hodgrix
    @hodgrix Рік тому +18

    Glaurung is the coolest thing ever lol. He's a very classical big bad dragon (not like a modern subversion) yet his twisted cunning is psychologically absolutely thrilling. How much is he his own autonomous being and how much is the very voice of Morgoth himself speaking through the dragon..
    Love the artwork as always!!!

    • @Kyle-qd2sy
      @Kyle-qd2sy Рік тому +3

      I have to imagine that while he operates under Morgoth's will, he still is autonomous and capable of making his own choices. From what I remember Glaurung disobeyed Morgoth and went out of Angband to attack the elves before he was fully grown, so there seems to be some level of independence there.

    • @dromankass8655
      @dromankass8655 11 місяців тому +2

      The dragon spell that Glaurung wove that so ensnared and trapped Turin, in the books Smaug attempted something similar the second time Bilbo ventured into his lair, and it almost worked, Bilbo was on the verge of removing this Ring and trotting out of the secret passage when the came to his senses and manged to shake it off.
      Also while Glaurung's victory was a success for Morgoth, he kind of lost his most powerful chess piece as a result. Because Glaurung took over the ruined halls of Nargothrond and all it's treasure, and made it his new lair. Basically the dragon then refused further orders from Morgoth as he was quite content to guard his treasure hoard and not involve himself further in the conquest of Middle-Earth.

  • @josephrichardson5186
    @josephrichardson5186 Рік тому +119

    Man, Tùrin makes Oedipus’s life look fun

    • @beasttheredknight5741
      @beasttheredknight5741 Рік тому +1

      Who's that?

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 Рік тому +1

      @@beasttheredknight5741 Proto-Freud...

    • @beasttheredknight5741
      @beasttheredknight5741 Рік тому +1

      @@jonbaxter2254 what proto freud?

    • @mgeldarion58
      @mgeldarion58 Рік тому

      @@beasttheredknight5741 the guy who was destined to murder his father and marry mother, so he ran away from the family to safeguard his parents, during his journeys accidentally murdered a king, was crowned at his place and married his milf queen as well.
      He did not know he had been adopted.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Рік тому +2

      @@beasttheredknight5741 the first guy who fell in love w his mom

  • @outrider44
    @outrider44 Рік тому +11

    Every time Turin changes his name, take a shot!

    • @Mert_Yanik
      @Mert_Yanik Рік тому +1

      So my kidney failed me need a New one

  • @SchaffyD
    @SchaffyD Рік тому +11

    This series of yours on Middle-earth is my favourite by far. Excellent work.

  • @mowm88
    @mowm88 Рік тому +5

    I like where Turgon walks by Tuor, two ships in the knight so to speak, but that's their only encounter.

    • @richardthomas9497
      @richardthomas9497 Рік тому +1

      You're talking about Túrin and Tuor crossing paths in the night?

  • @Docre_T
    @Docre_T Рік тому +4

    One of the greatest stories ever told by humanity

  • @richardthomas9497
    @richardthomas9497 Рік тому +8

    Interestingly the Elves that warned Orodreth and Túrin to destroy the bridge were Gelmir and Arminas, bringing the Valar Ulmo's warning of Nargothrond's fall.
    On their journey they had crossed paths with Túrin's cousin Tuor. During the threats and insults exchanged between the Elves and Túrin, they said he didn't have the bearings of the House of Hador, whereas Tuor did. Túrin took this insult about the appearance of his mother's dark hair, as the People of Hador had blond hair. The Elves corrected him it was not about appearance but the lack of noble character of his house.

  • @maganechikujoin2020
    @maganechikujoin2020 Рік тому +12

    Elves : We got unbeatable army and Commander.
    Glaurung : Let me introduce myself once more.
    Elves : I guess we burn. (No plan to take on Dragon just ignore him and let army burn.....)

  • @deron2203
    @deron2203 Рік тому +14

    I love this series so much. I can't wait for more episodes!

  • @samanyupalthi
    @samanyupalthi Рік тому +17

    Turin turambar's life is so awful! Watching his father taken away in battle! Loosing his homeland! Seperation from his family, fleeing his foster home! Going with rougue bandits whom he leads to death, getting captured by orcs! Killing his best friend with his own hands! Having to quarell with his freind! Failing the battle and protecting the people and then put into spell by a Dragon! (More to come while poor Hurin watches it all from Angband)

  • @desmondd1984
    @desmondd1984 Рік тому +5

    Fantastic video. Definitely the most tragic of all of Tolkien's stories.

  • @ArrivaAzazello
    @ArrivaAzazello Рік тому +4

    Remarkable fact turin never ever followed friends advices. He thought he new better. But trusted an evil beast without a doubt when glaurung told him to save his mother and sister and desert finduilas. There was something wrong with him from the beginning.

  • @rufusshinra9124
    @rufusshinra9124 Рік тому +3

    An excellent episode, thank you, the Lord of the Rings has a rich history that I only hope the world will know someday.

  • @FoundingChambers
    @FoundingChambers Рік тому +2

    When I see these pop up in my feed I get so excited!

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli Рік тому +2

    Fantastic.. looking forward to the next parts

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 Рік тому +7

    “ well met Dragon..”
    Turin-

  • @halocemagnum8351
    @halocemagnum8351 Рік тому +1

    tbh these first age videos are the only vids from this channel I watch. I like them so much.

  • @benjaminnye3715
    @benjaminnye3715 Рік тому +5

    Please keep making videos of the 1st 2nd and 3rd age they are very good and I have enjoyed them all

  • @MattGreerMusic
    @MattGreerMusic Місяць тому

    Glaurung's evil felt perhaps the most intense and palpable of any antagonist in Arda.

  • @EnclaveEmily
    @EnclaveEmily Рік тому +2

    "All Notifications" -> no notification.
    Christ almighty.

  • @vircervoteksisto5038
    @vircervoteksisto5038 Рік тому

    Of all the sad tales of the first age of Middle Earth, the tale of Hurin and Turin are by far the most tragic.

  • @dododimitrov9657
    @dododimitrov9657 Рік тому +7

    How can these series be more entertaining that Amazon Tv million budget show.

    • @332ndcompany5
      @332ndcompany5 2 місяці тому

      Pride is my guess. Even Galadriel’s brother Finrod I had not recognized in the show because they’d done such a poor job of explaining who he is 😢

    • @332ndcompany5
      @332ndcompany5 2 місяці тому

      You know it’s like since he fought Sauron, who was in the form of a werewolf, barehanded they could’ve alluded to that or shown some sort of flashback.

  • @avolto4822
    @avolto4822 Рік тому +2

    Weep weep for the Children of Hurin

  • @thebirdbrand
    @thebirdbrand Рік тому

    I love that the “Bro Code” exists even in Middle Earth

  • @sounakchatterjer4158
    @sounakchatterjer4158 Рік тому +2

    Great art as always

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel Рік тому +2

    dayum these videos are just gorgeous

  • @ClaudiuJrJ
    @ClaudiuJrJ Рік тому +1

    When this is all and done,you have to make a video of Dagor Dagorath

  • @shehansenanayaka3046
    @shehansenanayaka3046 Рік тому

    Amzing this documentary series is one of the best for fantasy genre. I love these content. Brilliantly made. All the animations are superb. Brilliant. I also downloaded and watched this videos. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️.

  • @michasalamon8315
    @michasalamon8315 Рік тому +3

    Never clicked a video faster yet.

  • @Laucron
    @Laucron Рік тому +2

    "b-but the good guys always win in tolkien's work"

  • @MichaelSmith-ij2ut
    @MichaelSmith-ij2ut Рік тому

    The artwork for Glaurung is he truly terrifying

  • @lordforages8319
    @lordforages8319 Рік тому +2

    If there's a live adaptation for this I vouch for Jon Bernthal could play turin perfectly

  • @ahmedalausta1401
    @ahmedalausta1401 Рік тому +2

    love this series

  • @bmoney2011
    @bmoney2011 Рік тому

    The Lord of Water spoke,
    In the silence, words of wisdom.
    "I've seen the end of all,
    Be aware, the storm gets closer."

    • @thekiatty6953
      @thekiatty6953 Рік тому

      But shall I leave my friends alone?
      Hidden in my twilight hall?
      For though the world is lost in fire,
      Surely there is a way to turn it back

  • @thebirdbrand
    @thebirdbrand Рік тому

    K&G+W&W=Perfection!! 👌🏼😇

  • @jeandasilva253
    @jeandasilva253 Рік тому +1

    no words.....u guys r the best!!!! the silmarillion change my life!! I have a son called Tuor

  • @calyonrubio6173
    @calyonrubio6173 Рік тому

    My Valar, Tolkien Enterprise take a look here. Look this work, man, is very good animated and narrated. This is the kind of stuffs could be a very good commerciable +18 serie or an long animation.Congrats man, I liked a lot. Cheers from Chile!

  • @parasf2984
    @parasf2984 Рік тому

    Very beautifully explained

  • @Sandbarfight
    @Sandbarfight Рік тому +2

    Thank you

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Рік тому +4

    Bruh, wish for Stargate videos soon

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude777 Рік тому

    What a tragic mess. This is good stuff.

  • @sageofcaledor8188
    @sageofcaledor8188 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the excellent video. In this part, I weep a lot. From the death of Turni's friend, the fall of a kingdom, and it will get worse from there.
    Looking forward to the next video!
    One question. I heard somewhere Turin and the elves did some damage to the forces of Morgoth in the area before he sent the dragon. Is that a misreading of the information? Cause it said, the elves admired Turin's prowess with his sword in battle.

  • @svagglaorde4387
    @svagglaorde4387 Рік тому +9

    Insert Berserk Theme for Turin.

    • @jaieregilmore971
      @jaieregilmore971 11 місяців тому

      If Turin have the dragonslayer it would had been epic.

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Рік тому +1

    Turin: The "Aule" of the Edain...

  • @MuratKeremOzcan
    @MuratKeremOzcan Рік тому

    Love it! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @Santirata
    @Santirata Рік тому +2

    Absolutely love the content here and on Kings and Generals! That said, please please please research the pronunciation of names prior to recording the video. May seem like a small thing but takes me out of it. That small additonal detail and care would make these videos perfect. Thanks!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Рік тому

    Great stuff!⚔🧙🐉

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 Рік тому +6

    Based on his works, I wonder if Tolkien was depressed when he wrote "The Children Of Hurin"?

    • @richardthomas9497
      @richardthomas9497 Рік тому

      I wonder the same thing when Hideaki Anno made Neon Genesis Evangelion.

    • @ryancruz1876
      @ryancruz1876 11 місяців тому

      No. It’s loosely inspired by the story of Kullervo from the Kalevala, which is equally as tragic and depressing, but which is written in the beautiful language of Finnish.

  • @njwilksy
    @njwilksy Рік тому +1

    nice

  • @maddogbasil
    @maddogbasil Рік тому +9

    Count down until we see the next Mongol Alternate History Video
    👇

  • @Gandalf50Shades
    @Gandalf50Shades Рік тому +4

    Little known fact, but Turin is actually short for "You're a damned TOOL, RIN!"

  • @highfalutinman
    @highfalutinman 8 місяців тому

    Turin was cursed, not just with pure doom but also hubris to the point of stupidity

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 Рік тому

    Love The vid

  • @santiagovisci2899
    @santiagovisci2899 Рік тому

    We need 40K

  • @samankucher5117
    @samankucher5117 Рік тому

    epic :)

  • @nigellanjuat3294
    @nigellanjuat3294 Рік тому

    True 💯

  • @00martoneniris86
    @00martoneniris86 Рік тому +2

    Coud you do an video about the great hyperspace war

    • @richardthomas9497
      @richardthomas9497 Рік тому

      The details only exist in the original Expanded Universe/Legends.

  • @commanderstark5932
    @commanderstark5932 Рік тому

    Try 14 of asking the channel to (for April fools) cover the paintball war from community

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 Рік тому +1

    this is amazing, just when I'm reading through Children Of Hurin for the first time. Please keep Amazon away from this.

  • @tomsawyer1648
    @tomsawyer1648 7 місяців тому

    Masking your accidental past as blood stained 🤔

  • @boid9761
    @boid9761 Рік тому

    Inb4 they make a 40k video

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Рік тому

    will you wizards and warriors make what if about real star trek tonight yes are no

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Рік тому

    will wizards and warriors make what if about real star trek tonight yes are no

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- Рік тому

    👏👍

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Рік тому

    A

  • @dorothyiwantwinniepoohinin1991

    will you wizards and warriors make real star trek today yes are no

  • @tubickkema3009
    @tubickkema3009 Рік тому

    Can you do only alternate history and not this ?

    • @vladdracula8103
      @vladdracula8103 Рік тому +4

      That's a terrible idea, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Рік тому

    will you wizards and warriors make what if about real star trek tonight yes are no

  • @dorothyiwantwinniepoohinin1991

    will you wizards and warriors make real star trek today yes are no