GEN 1 vs 2 vs 3 RAPTOR SHOOTOUT // Is The V8 Still King?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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In this episode, we battle ALL THREE of the Ford F150 Raptor Generations in a 3 way shoot out comparison!
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Chapters:
0:00 | Intro
0:31 | Exterior
1:47 | Interior
5:22 | Engine & Transmission // Powertrain
7:36 | Nuts & Bolts // Chassis
12:03 | 0-60, Launch, Road Test & Dynamics
19:56 | Hill Test - Off Road
21:29 | Trail Control Demonstration
22:44 | Conclusions
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Special ordered a 6.2 gen 1 with no options. Out the door for 43k. Best truck I ever owned. Still own it.
Wow, base price now is probably what, $88-90,000?
I watch these videos and every time I'm convinced gen 1 is the best regardless what the people in the video say.
@@relicgamer2137 After doing research Now I have my eyes on Gen1 Raptor for long term!
Thats the way to do it
I bet you can turn around and still get low 30k’s if it’s in good condition and has like than 150k on the odometer!
As a gen 1 owner, I can say Im keeping it forever. I love the 6.2L and the 6R80 trans, ive got quite a few mods and it performs better than stock at 184K miles. Awesome truck.
What kinda mods did you do? Just got one of my own and looking to do some myself.
Gen 2 hands down for me is the one I’d choose
If it had the 6.2 . The gen 2 to me has a more aggressive appeal
I just purchased a MINT Gen 2 2018 with 40K miles on it for 39,000! My friend bought a 2018 with 60K miles on it last year for 59K (extended warranty). The markets have finally come back down to earth. Thank goodness
Thank goodness!
It's being reliable for you? I want one badly
I'm currently looking for one too. But the prices are around the 50-60k mark for same like miles. Has it been reliable ? Hoping to get one in July.
This is what I'm looking to do!! How did you find it? Any selling platforms that helped you out?
when I was in 9th gradee these first came out. A kid at my schools dad had oneand hearing that v8 coming to pick him up was insane. Picked up the Gen 2 about a year ago and I'll probably have this thing until my kids can drive. Best truck out there!
Gen 1 all day, you can upgrade suspension anytime and infotainment system... it might be old but it still an asS kicker but Gen 2 style interior and exterior is brilliant... If I had the money I'll do a 6.2L supercharge swap on Gen 2 👌🏽
That might be the perfect truck
I definitely second this lol
We have a 2017 Raptor, bought used (1 owner) in mint condition. Anderson Composite carbon front fenders, Method bead locks and we put an MPT tune (a couple options...91, 93) and simply love the truck. The V6 Twin Turbo Ecoboost now puts out 590 HP, 640 Ft LBS Torque on the 93 tune and is so much fun. We've put so many off road miles on it...Mojave, Moab, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana...it just rips.
My only complaint, if I have any...is it just doesn't sound like a good ol' V8 motor. Man V8's just have that certain rumble, sound...makes me want to get a 2024 Raptor R but just can't justify spending the money on one when I love our 2017!!!
One thing you forgot about the Gen 1 running in the baha 1000. While Ford goal was to simply finish the race, the raptor didn't finish last. Yes it actual faired better than some of the purpose built trophy trucks that raced that day.
Great side by side comparison. I’ve toyed with the thought of upgrading to a new Rap, but I think my Gen Juan is here to stay!
Having just purchased my Gen 3 with 35's in Code Orange, I can honestly say I am 100% satisfied. Thanks for the great review. Information only , no ridiculous music or annoying constant loud laughing, only great information. Thanks again.
Great video! Your original review of the Gen 1 convinced me to buy a low mileage 2012 model last year. I have absolutely no regrets. Can’t wait for a review of the R!
That is awesome! We actually sold ours after we shot this episode… and already miss it. Enjoy yours! And stay tuned for the R review 🤘
@@TexasTruckChannel had to let one go to afford the r eh?
@@darkfire8615 Not a raptor but I have an 11 6.2L Platinum max tow. Look forward to driving it every day! Extremely reliable too!
@@TexasTruckChannelwhy did you sell the gen 1? Just curious
I prefer the headlights on the Gen 2 Raptor over the Gen 3
Great video boys . I got a gen 2 just few days ago I went back and forth between gen 2ans3 I just liked gen 2 looked best To me . Yes I would like exhaust sounds of gen 1 but can’t have it all
Great video guys! Just picked up a Gen 2 and loving it.
I feel like the Gen 3 looks the best, especially in the front end, but I can help but love that 6.2 in the Gen 1, such a beast
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Yeah, if feel like the gen 3 looks like the gen 1 with the modernism of the gen 2. It’s definitely the best of both worlds. But the gen 1 with the v8 can’t be beat. And In my opinion, I kinda don’t like the looks of the gen 2, I don’t know why.
Very thorough, honest review. I owned a 17 & 18 Gen 2. And now own a 22 Gen 3. They have all been my daily drivers and I have off loaded all three extensively. The only thing I think you missed in the comparison is the huge difference the rear coils makes in the ride and performance of the Gen 3, especially off road. I'm my opinion that by far is the biggest upgrade they made in the Gen 3's. And it's much more important than the exhaust options, which I love.
The axle wrap and wheel hop that came with the rear leafs on the Gen 2's is the major reason that Ford detuned the Gen 2's. So people wouldn't be ripping the rear ends out from under the trucks.
With the 5 link suspension Ford engineers tuned the Gen 3's more aggressively, from the Factory. That's why you see the big difference in 0-60 times. Even though the trucks make the same HP and torque on paper. By the way, the problems with the 10 speed transmission that you mention can be resolved completely with a good tune and TCM.
I'm running a Cobb Accessport and custom tunes and TCM from GooseTuned. Who specializes in tuning these trucks. My 93 MAP provides me with another 100 HP and 80 fps of torque, at the tires. But I decided to install 1050CC injectors so I can run E85. Which gives me roughly another 50 HP and 40fps of torque, at the tires, over the 93 tune. It is a completely different beast and driving experience!
Take both the Gen 2 and Gen 3 off road. Where you are running them over whoops and around corners at speed. And I think you will agree that the five link rear suspension is the biggest upgrade over the two trucks. In my opinion, it's a game changer off road!
Great video, I had a 2014,2017,2018 and went back to a 2013. Cam Phaser issues were notorious for me. I currently have 130k on my Gen1 and it's solid as hell. I do miss some of the visuals of the gen2 but I still prefer the gen1 overall. Swapped out my steering wheel from a gen2 and changed the infotainment system and that's it for the interior for me.
Thanks for sharing, sounds like you have found the sweet spot. We have since sold our Gen 1 that is featured here, and miss it routinely. It had 170K when we sold it and it felt fresh still. You have lots of life left in yours!
I’m dealing with the cam phaser thing now in my GEN two raptor. It’s a 2018 with with 40,000 miles thinking about trading it in for a GEN 3
@@dancellana6002it’s a simple fix, not a big deal.
@@thesaifcreations9111there’s nothing simple about the fix. Don’t lie to people.
Currently in the market for a gen 1, I've had nothing but issues out of my last 3.5 ecoboost and everyone I know with the 3.5 has issues. If the 3.5 in my last f150 didn't leave such a bad taste in my mouth I'd be going for gen 2 all day long. They look so good
243,000 on my Gen 1 effing love that truck
What issues were you having in your ecoboost? Mine has 187k miles no issues
I like the Gen3 the best. The catch is if I went raptor shopping, I would shop for a Gen2 because the gen3 is out of my price range.
You guys are awesome, I've had all three and I think this 23' is the best by far! loving it.
Thanks! We felt the same way after spending time with all 3.
Awesome video men! Love every bit of it!
Thanks Matt!!
Great comparison I just got a gen 3 love it, it also has active headlights that adjust up and down and turn side to side with the steering wheel so cool
Absolutely, we are in a raptor R this week with the same lights. They are so good!
My BMW 06 550i had those.. amazing how much tech raptors have.. Toyota will probably start using those in 2032 😂😂😂.. Gen2 owner here.. love it
Thank you guys, great video based on your knowledge and passion.
I had a 2018 Gen 2 loaded in black and it was my favorite vehicle of all time. I absolutely loved it. It didn’t have live valve shocks though and I also wanted to run 37s so I traded it in on a Gen 3 loaded in black on 37s this week. OMG! Way more difference than you guys are giving credit. It’s night and day. I feel like I’m driving in a cloud. There’s no comparison. Maybe it’s the 37s that’s making the difference. But the power is more in your face. The traction is way better in the rear and feels planted now. Sound system is way better. Exhaust is killer. I took off from my office yesterday and my staff ran to the window to see who it was that made that awesome race car sound. The texted me saying it was awesome. Haha. Ford nailed it with this one. I have no reason to pay another $70k for the R. I’m so happy with this truck so far. It just makes me want to go fast all the time. 😂😎👍
Is it reliable? How many miles? I'm seriously thinking of getting one
@@alainvargas4927 just get it but get the 37s. I’m impressed everytime I get in it. The suspension is about as good as it gets for factory. No issues here but it’s new. 3500 miles so far.
Great video gang!!!! Lot of useful stuff in here!!
Thanks!
This was a great video, thanks for making!!
You bet, thanks for watching!
I just got a ruby red metallic crew cab gen 1 raptor a few days ago, I love it!
Never owned a truck and your video helped out a lot. Thank you and Merry Christmas 🎄
We love to hear that. Fingers crossed that you end up in a raptor. Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas!
@@TexasTruckChannel Dealership has a slot for me. Need your guys help. I’ve seen a bunch of videos about moonroof fails. I’m not a fan of them. Dealership says people expect them. I don’t want one. What would you guys do?
Great Video! I'm currently trying to decide between a gen1 and 2 (gen 3 is out of budget). This really helped. Subscribed!
Awesome! Happy hunting, there is no wrong answer there.
Which gen did you get?
In the market rn
Gen2. Engine growl wasn't enough when I drove both. Gen2 is so much fun. Guessing gen3 is even better. Will find out one day. I knew going in what needed to be "repaired" (Cams, Sunroof) and just negotiated that on the price. Been very happy and love it. Its a special vehicle IMO. @@mojeda2129
What did you end up with?
The Gen 1 Raptor looks like a Giant Cough Drop tablet 😮
Looks goofy ..like a kicker football helmet
Just got a gen 1 2012 today ! And man I love this thing ! I don’t care about how fast it is because I have a corvette for that but man I tested 5 raptors and gen 1 was the best and also price wise
I was pretty skeptical about the 3.5 but I just traded my 2016 with 275k on the clock, couple throttle bodies and turbo oil pipes is all I ever replaced. That motor is solid..
Love my gen 2. I wish it had the exhaust and exhaust button and suspension button. Also a custom drive mode like the gen 3 would be nice. Of course the newest sync and screen would be nice but the one in the gen 2 is fine tbh
Had gen2 now have gen3. Both are excellent. My favorite trucks. Borla makes a fine exhaust for gen 2
Gen 1 is the best
amazing video guys, thank you.
Thanks for watching! We can’t wait for our next Raptor review.
@@TexasTruckChannel it would be nice to see a video on what to check when buying a pre own ford raptor.
Thank you fellows. Im looking to by Gen 1 soon.
You bet. Happy hunting. We miss our Gen 1 all the time.
Great review
just picked up a 14 in mint condition low miles ...stoked :)
How the heck do you guys only have 15k subs. Y’all’s video quality had me thinking you guys had at least 500k subs, hands down the best raptor comparison video I’ve seen.
Thank you so much! Sadly it takes time to grow without click bait tactics, which we just can't bring ourselves todo. Thanks for watching, and feel free to share/subscribe, that helps us alot!
@@TexasTruckChannel Maaaaan, thank you so much for not using gimmick clickbait tactics. I hate seeing so many channels "selling soul" just to get a click. Hats off to you gentlemen! 🙌🏻
@@TexasTruckChannel : It might not count for much but you got another new sub today. I always like when I find good channels that are based here in TX. It was nice to see a review of all 3 generations of Raptors back to back. It was exactly the video I was hoping to find.
I went and did the raptor assault in utah with my brother n law a couple months ago as he just bought the gen3 and we ran it threw all kind of paces including jumping it and it really is more than a glorified F150 like what i used to think that being said im going to pick up a gen1 in a couple of days for myself it is awsome all kinds of goodies on it and very well taken care of im sold on the raptor for sure.
Great and very informative 👍 🙏
Thanks!
just got a gen 2 about 3 weeks ago and i love it..
I just got a gen two like a week ago, I feel you. It's a lot of fun. Not as squishy as I expected but idgaf it mobs
That gen 2 rips!
I have a Gen 3 and OMG it's insane for awesome. Best built truck ever.
Well done
2010 Gen 1 here. Love my SVT 6.2 V8❤️🔥
Congrats on that!
My truck had the 6.2 and I concur, given to us from God😂. Great video y’all! Looks like y’all are located pretty close to me!
AMEN on the 6.2. Are you in DFW?
@@TexasTruckChannel I’m in stephenville so not too far away!
Can’t live without the tech in the Gen3. From the controls on the wheel, to the Sync 3 with wireless apple CarPlay.
Does the gen3 have the 2014-16 tailgate, lights and side mirrors?
Gen 2 is by far best looking.
I am looking for a Gen 1. Can’t afford more than that, but I am glad to know it’s not too far off even from the gen 3
I have a 2011 gen 1, not only the best truck I’ve ever owned but, the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I’m sure it will continue to serve who ever I pass it on to
Nice videos guys. Can you compare strictly off-road ride quality of the gen 2 and gen 3? I would like to see how the 5 link coil suspension differs from the leaf springs on the gen 2.
Oh sure, the truth is that they both ride great off road. Most of that is due to the live valve shocks. As far as the leaf vs coil springs go, the coils are slightly more linear throughout the suspension travel. But honestly we were shocked at how similar the Gen 2 and Gen 3 rode both on and off road.
My gen 2 jumps and hops really bad in the rear end over the smallest road imperfection even with low tyre pressure
I would never get rid of my gen 1, to much of a damn good truck
I just bought a gen 3 and love it coming from a 2018 gen 2 !
Congrats!
Raptor gen2 best looking
Best bang for the buck
Gen2 simply best truck
I don't think it's hard to realize the suspension gets MUCH better with each generation. Gen 1 has a rear buck that can be dangerous over large bumps, Gen 2 is significantly better, and I had to upgrade my Gen 2 shocks to handle almost as good as a stock Gen 3.
Great video. We need to collab on some tuned vs stock Raptors.
Sounds great. Shoot us a note when you have a minute: BrakeCheckShow@gmail.com
Going to need to do this when the Raptor R drops and the 5.2 V8, it's just adding the boost to a V8!
Absolutely!
Same exact truck. Just 1.5 seconds faster 0-60 and a deeper exhaust sound. All that for $60k more.
@@jeffm8882 not same truck, suspension changes too.
LOVE my Avalanche Gray '17!
Might be the perfect color!
Avalanche Gray is my favorite color!
I am in deep love in gen 2. I wish I could afford one and ship it to europe.. i love big cars and the front on mk2 is the most stylish one :)
Good video, hmmmm kind of expecting a bigger hill!! 😂 That's like a driveway!
Thanks! Raptors are good at making hills look like driveways.
The Ecoboost has issues with the turbos going out and destroying the engine. At least that's been my experience. Cam phasers are also a common failure of that engine. I prefer the look and feel of the gen 2 though.
Gen 1 was and will always be the best Raptor. Its a tank and they sound is amazing.
I've got a 2014 special edition and I absolutely love this truck. Only truck I would trade it for is a new Raptor R. Gotta have that V8
I’ll choose a gen 1 even over a raptor r, I love the simplicity of a gen 1
Ahhh hell no…
Raptor R all day..
that’s like saying you’d rather a VW beetle over a Porsche 911 turbo…. Because it’s simpler….
Is the ecoboost trustable on the gen 2? Im thinking of buying one but its an ecoboost so i have doubts about it, since i would have to trade in my 15 coyote f150 for that raptor
Gen 2 looks just as new from the out as the gen 3
My husband had a gen 1 when we were just boyfriend and girlfriend, a Gen 2 when we were engaged, and now owns a gen 3 when we are married lol. Every F-150 Raptor gen has been a major part of my life, since my late teens! 🤗. I have had so many great adventures in those trucks! I'm looking forward to owning a Ranger Raptor!
I love the gen 2 as well, because it looks best!
That is awesome!
Love my gen 1 . On 37” the 6.2 will downshift from a roll and still burn the tires .
GEN 2 !!!
love my 2013 6.2 raptor! Yeah not great mileage, but not why I bought it! My dream truck! Yeah, the faster you go, the smoother it is. But the engine is much more dependaple!
gen 2 and gen 3 raptors all pull 0-60 in 5~ seconds. weights and everything are all very similar between 2 and 3 so there's no reason the 3 would pull a faster time with the same guts and weight. Gen 2 is sexy af. Gen 3 looks softer. my biggest complaint is that the gen 2 doesnt have the folding shifter or exhaust tuner.
Gen 2 you can adjust the steering and shocks. Gen3 you just add on to it
Thanks for the comparo guys. How dailyable is the gen 1? Does it suck for long highway cruises? Looking for a fun pickup truck. Only hauling needs would be dirtbikes in the bed or camping/surfing gear
They are all great at long trips. Super comfy with climate controlled seats available in all. We used our Gen 1 for about 8 trips to Houston a year with no complaint. Thanks for watching 🤟
I have all the fun on the planet, hauling my rooftop tent in my SVT 2012,, where my Raptor will not go, my dirt bike will. Have fun go Offroad 🤙🏻🇨🇦
That is awesome! Thanks for watching.
I’m going to start using that word, bench marked. I didn’t copy my work i bench marked it off of previous data. 😂
😂
Great video, fun to watch. Was surprised the Gen 3 was a whole second quicker to 60 than Gen 2. Wonder what Ford did to that tune.🤔. Don't like that Gen 3 has the locked out computers, bad news for tuning. Currently looking at Supercab Gen 2s but beginning to get psyched out by the cam phaser issues people are reporting. Is this a widespread issue?? That could be a deal breaker for me. Like the Gen 1 Raptors too but mpg is terrible for a daily and they are so heavy. I hear those 2.5 Fox shocks don't hold up and need to be rebuilt often. Probably needs 3.0 upgrade.
Just did phasers...again. Can comfirm its why Im going back to a Gen 1. I love the truck but god damn the engine is absolutely hot garbage up here in Canada.
perfect !
Everything I've heard, read and seen is that the 2020 is the most reliable of the gen 2. The early issues with the v-6 were resolved
As a 2020 owner.... I love the sound... of the metal I listen to as the exhaust notes hit.... in fact... sometimes.... I'll turn down the radio to hear those turbos suck freedom... Sorry you have to make up for something in your round edge Alt Nation V8
Don't care how much lighter or faster the new ones are, still sticking with the V8.
I agree that I’d rather a V8 if given a choice.
But I wouldn’t rather own a gen 1 over a gen 2 or 3.
I actually don’t mind the Gen 3 exhaust note. (Gen 2 is lame)
But the better V8 exhaust note alone isn’t more important than the rest of the improvements made.
I’d rather the aluminum rust free body, better performance, and better styling (Gen 2 is best exterior Gen 3 is best interior).
Can you compare 2020 Shelby Raptor to a 22 Raptor thinking of trading in by Shelby
Good review for someone looking into getting a raptor, whatever gen lol.
Thanks!
O HAY MOTORES DE RAPTOR QUE TENGAN MENOS HP??
O ESPOR LA ALTURA A NIVEL DEL MAR
O QUE? ES QUE NO SE QUE SISTEMA TRAEN LAS RAPTOR.
GRACIAS
I like all of them. However, Ive heard a lot of gen 2 owners have sold and went back to gen 1 strictly for reliability. The 6.2 is bulletproof compared to the ecoboost. With that said, I just purchased a gen 1 2013 Roush Raptor in Terrain color last week and it's a beast. But honestly, I love all raptors. Gen 3 obviously is the most refined.
Congrats on the roush raptor! The 6.2 with boost is no joke.
Me and my dad both have gen 2’s he has 121,000 miles on his with no issues. Mine has 187,000 also has never had any issues still on original turbos. About to sell mine to upgrade to the gen 3
Gen3 looks good, I like the increased size of the ambient lights, they look brighter too. The gen2 still look better but the interior feels dated for 2022 standards.
If gen 1 had a gen 2 wheel it would be the best
What can you do to make the Gen2 sound more aggressive?
V8 swap it
I had the Gen2, it is unreliable. At least mine was. I never had cam phaser problems, but I had transmissions problems, sun roof problems, two oil pans replaced (leaked - granted mine was a 17 with the plastic pan), radiator leaked, driver window motor, synch crapped out. I'm sure there's more, but that's what I remember. Just bought a Gen 1 today with 48k miles, pretty sure I paid more than the original sticker. Fingers crossed it's more reliable than my gen 2 was. Even if it isn't, it sounds SOOOOOOOOO much better with the 6.2.
Has it been more reliable?! I REALLY want a gen 2…. But I’d much prefer the reliability of gen 1
Trail control is a one pedal drive system. It requires throttle control but no brakes. Otherwise this was a great video!
My Gen 1 is just a reliable beast of a truck....
Gen 1 !!!!!
Does the first gen have booking differential ?
Yes, it has a locking rear diff, and optional torsen limited slip front axle.
Gen 1
Gen1 or 2 supper cab.
The R is next review right. Seen a few reviews that say it's better than the TRX.
Stay tuned!
Why compare a low end gen 1 with high end newer gens? For those not familiar the 13-14 gen 1 roush package comes supercharged. You’re comparing a twin turbo v6 with a stock v8..the last gen 1s featured a much better screen, front camera, manual shift, tailgate step and a few other things Im forgetting. A gen 1 13-14 supercharged is the holy grail imo
Just to clear a few things up here, the Gen 1 that we used in this episode had every single option available from Ford in 2012. The Gen 1 Roush Raptors are often mistaken as a factory option. They were not, and ford never sold a Gen 1 with boost. Every Roush Raptor that you see is an add on from Roush, not an option from the Ford factory. We are comparing a stock V8 verses some stock twin turbo V6's. The 13/14 units had an updated sync system and head lights, other than that, they are identical to the 11/12 units. Including the gear toggle on the shifter. All that being said, you are right! The boosted 13/14 is freaking sweeeeeeeet! And we loved the Gen 1 enough to own it for 5 years. Thanks for watching.
@@TexasTruckChannel just to clarify your clarification a little more, gen1 13-14 also had a reinforced rear section on the frame rails due to them bending also the torsen front diff became standard option, factory beadlocks became optional, also in 13 terrain color became available and 14 ruby red became available, also the roush Raptors although was a "add on /option" they could be ordered directly from select dealers. I know because I ordered mine in 2013 from a dealer... and there's more to add, but great comparison
I'd go with 3 Gen SuperCab R :)
Looking to order Gen 3. The whole V8 or nothing just blows my mind
Amen, and congrats on the order, you will love the Gen 3.
They are missing the 1Gen, is there a model before those, why didn't they put it in?
The 1st Gen is the silver one.
Gen 3 is stunning
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