Kyle, I've watched your videos for maybe 18 months. I'm a diehard combustion engine guy but enthusiastic about what electric vehicles can do. I've never seen one of your videos and said to my self that I have switch to an electric vehicle....until today. For the first time, even before the video reached the point where you interviewed Nicole, I was sold. I put down a deposit for a reservation on the Scout Traveler EREV. It was the right combination of style, functionality, and ability to have that small combustion engine to save your a$$ when you need it and you know you're gonna need it at some point. After your conversation with Nicole, it made me even more enthusiastic about Scout. I am hopeful that in 2-3 years, I'll be able to purchase my first EV, a Scout Traveler!
I wouldn't call it a combustion engine, but a gas generator that can charge the EV battery as you drive. That's the difference between PHEV and EREV. Cheers
I own a BMW i3 and I think this is the ultimate vehicle, just wish they had a lower spec at a lower cost. Having an engine in the back is the ULTIMATE key to the new generation of travel. Yes, if you only go back and forth to work and the grocery store all electric is fine. If you want to travel, tow, use the vehicle for utility, this is perfect.
Totally agree! I remember when she worked for Rivian and talked through some of the initial UX when the R1T was about to launch! She's a HUGE asset for the Scout Motors brand
A couple of items that I would like to see coming are -built in dash cams -exterior LED lights that are replaceable, without having to change the entire lense. Bring back the replaceable bulb -Full sized spare tire -built in air compressor -coil springs, air suspension doesn't last long in the colder climates, very expensive to repair
I think that's what they are trying to do. He mentioned the screen not being taller over the dash. I think they are trying to keep the original dash look from the old trucks. It would make it look a little to modern if the extended the screen. Also, like the Rivians, they are geared towards outdoorsy feel so you wouldn't want a screen taking up the view. Kind of an out of sight out of mind situation. I like the truck for the most part, but there are some things I hope they change. Maybe make the center part of the seat fold down so you can use it as an armrest like some of the current trucks have.
@@Member00101 a few other reviewers have indicated that this will be a part of the bench seat option. now to what level, if/when brought to market, only time will tell.
As an owner of a 72 and 74 Scout, I loved the design. Glad to see they are bringing it back. Sorry I won't be able to afford one though. I bought mine from the International dealer in Missoula, MT.........he was the best car dealer I ever dealt with........bar none.
The first truck I remember my father having was the International Travelall. Amazing vehicle. We pulled a camper all over the country. It was an SUV before SUVs were a thing.
Missoula Truck Sales was great! Dad ordered a new 70 Travelall from the dealer in East Grand Forks, MN before he retired from the AF, swapping it straight across for a 72 heavy 1/2 ton 4wd pickup, and finally told me that he recovered from the urge to rescue IH Light Line trucks after building his livestock puller ranch truck, a 75 1-ton American LaFrance international surplus from Missoula County Airport. I bought a '71 Scout II from that area in 1996, crawled all over it with Dad's supervision to tighten every nut, bolt, and screw before driving 2600 miles home to Cordova, Alaska that September. I'd visit with people who'd approach the Scout on my way home, exclaiming that they loved theirs, though it rusted apart. RIP, Rust In Peace/Place. (IH didn't paint the interiors of body panels with rustproofing until 1979.) I was enamored with the seating position when I rode in a 74 Scout II up Miller Creek, with a good view from the raised rear seat.
@@charlesbranch4120 Great story..........I used my two Scouts to hunt all over the Missoula area and loved every minute of it. Still miss it to this day.
I was a senior in high school in 1979. Some of my friends had 4x4's. I couldn't afford a truck but the one I wanted was the Scout. Never bought one but have been following Scout restorer channels for the last 5 years. Rivians excited me because they looked like Scouts and the biz side of me thought it was genius that RJ bought the closed Mitsubishi factory for a fraction of the value, to build vehicles. Did not yet purchase an R1 but did get my reservation for an R2. Now that VW and Rivian are working together on systems, and seeing the prototype Scout (and finally having cash) I'm going to reserve a Scout for myself. I usually only buy used and never first generation, but both R2 for around town and a Scout to head up to Sedona, AZ are worth breaking my "rules" to me. Hey, my Dad built an electric mini-bike for me when I was 12. I've been an EV guy for 5 decades!
I am biased as a Rivian owner, but that being said, I am not sure why you are surprised with how far they have come. Despite some differences (range extender, tactile switches, etc) they have looked at what Rivian has done successfully and followed suit. From a near production ready prototype, to building a community, to hitting that rugged yet refined balance. I just personally think they are very similar. I wish Scout the best of luck, I think they look great, but do feel like they are direct competitors with Rivian despite what the Scout team is saying.
You have to think of the Rivian as starting from the premium/luxury space and working backwards to bring off-road ability to it's adventure-minded audience. Scout is starting from the opposite end - full off-road capability and building upward to give their audience more features and comfort.
As a die hard Tesla fan and investor, I have to say I am absolutely in love with this design. I wish more than anything Tesla would break out of their mold and produce something like this. The styling for me is spot ON! 😘
We watch Kyle from the other side of the ocean ( Europe ) since he started tests and eventually got a Rivian truck.. Shout out and big love for both Rivian & Scout we really wish this joint-venture partnership to grow strong & fast to extend over here to Europe we can not wait enough for any of these cool brands that produce such awesome customer oriented vehicles.. from all models and versions both brands officially unveil & presented : Rivian R2 & Scout Traveler are our favorites !
As a Tesla fan and investor, you should know they'll never make anything like this. Tesla knows nothing about design and are not very creative. They also live iPads and no buttons. They're the opposite of this.
@@MikeHewittTesla is going to lose massive market share in the US because el Presidente Musk is the absolute pinnacle of douchebags - oh and then there's the >1000 legit cases of wrongful death that are due to Musk being too cheap to pay for lidar detectors for their autopilot death-traps. Plus here we are still building cars out of plastic so all the little gear drive motors fail within 5 years, and then there's the rusting "stainless-steel" panels that the Cyberfockker is made of 😂. Nothing says entitled idiot-douchebag quite like a Tesla.
I ordered the Traveler EREV love the look and design. My Dad had a Scout II. We took that up mountain trails in Alaska where others wouldn't go. crossed rivers, creeks drove on the tundra hunting. They did a good job with the buttons, I don't all screens. Buttons are best for a rugged veh. Needs 18's with the 35s. Seats are great don't make them high like the scrappy new trucks where you can't see behind you. Had a Silverado and you look back and just see a high headrest in the way. This will be the pinnacle of new offroad.
Totally agree with the lower seat backs. The headrests will do their job in an accident... leave the seats low if possible with flush headrest when not in use in the center seats if possible, which will allow for much better overall visibility.
In the early 1960s my family of 4 had a 1/2 cab red and white SCOUT as our only vehicle. Our father purchased it at Rowe’s garage in Phillips, Maine. She and I spent countless hours riding in the back of that vehicle in all seasons (including Maine winters). Many memories, including the time our blankets were set on fire by a cigarette butt our father threw out the window while we were traveling to Rangeley to go smelting. That scout was tough and reliable. Never let us done in the backwoods of western Maine Best luck to the new Scout generation. Hope you meet and surpass your legacy
@@Json918buying and service is two different things. My truck was bought at one dealer and is serviced at another. As they mentioned, there is a good chance VE dealers are the Scout service centers.
@@mydroneadventures8807 Which is a great thing because Rivian's big issue is their service centers are too spread out and it's hard to get them repaired
I am too young to have ever known Scout, but I absolutely love the styling. Nothing else matches that classic style, even the new Broncos don't look "Bronco" enough. If it can deliver, it's top of the list for my next EV.
I'm a 58 yr old OFF ROADER and MECHANIC (44 yrs exp) as well. And I can tell you from firsthand experience there are a few things that are similar between this "NEW VERSION" and the "LEGENDARY ORIGINAL VERSION" (Especially with the "I-H SCOUT II"): (1) (DEAD GIVEAWAY HERE) TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE REAR SIDE WIDOWS ON THE SUV. The original is the same as the old, (2) SPARE TIRE and GAS CAN MOUNT, (3) SEATS, (4) SCOUTS WERE VERY WELL KNOWN FOR HAVING A POSITRACK REAR ON THEM AS WELL, BOTH OLD AND THIS NEW, But now if they do come out with GAS MOTORS for this NEW SCOUT only time will tell. Also as well the original SCOUT also had a DIESEL MOTOR as well optional, But the DIESEL MOTOR equipped SCOUTS didn't sell very well. 🤔 But if so I do wonder if they will have the same size motors (METRIC SIZES unlike the original CUBIC INCH SIZES of old of course) As the original SCOUT had. Also the NUTS, BOLTS, ETC will be of METRIC SIZES and not the FRACTIONAL TYPE of old as well of course. 🤔 Likewise I doubt it seriously, but often wonder if BODY PANELS, BUMPERS, ETC of the new might interchange with that of the old? If so, a lot of folks in the future might be watching for one of these newer to get tired and swap them in some of their ANTIQUE SCOUTS as well, 😮OH THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE FOR MANY OTHER SCOUT LOVERS LIKE MYSELF!! The point is like he said: This is still 2 years away and a lot can and will happen between now and then. But as for my tired old antique loving GREASE MONKEYS (Old phrase for a MECHANIC) HIDE: I LOVE IT, AND WOULD LOVE A SHOT AT TRYING IT OUT BEFORE I GO TO THAT: "GREAT GREASE MONKEYS SHOP IN THE SKY."
My dad was one of those guys who named his cars - In 1970s Alaska, his International Scout was named “Lurch” because of its herky-jerky shifter. That thing could go anywhere and could still start when tires were freezing to the ground! The weirdest feature I remember were the twin independent controls for the front wipers - impossible to synchronize! :-). This new Scout looks to be a worthy successor.
Kyle, I wish you mentioned to the software manager the importance of having charging data while charging. Things like how many kw the car is requesting, how many kw the charger is giving, the amps, the voltage, battery temperature. Also things like battery state of health and battery preconditioning. Is it gonna have a heat pump or not. I feel like too many things were needed to be asked about. We need the UI to show us more data so we know and be able to optimize the range
The Scout Traveler really tugs on my heartstrings. Back in 1970, at the age of 14, I learned to drive with my Uncle John, in his '69 Scout. He'd shift the gears for me on the 4-speed and I would work the pedals and steer. I will never forget that experience! I am a 69-year old retiring professional, who uses his (owned since brand new) 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 Overland Ecodiesel (currently has 109K miles) w/ Offroad Adventure II Pkg (w/ rear LSD/low-range locker), Adjustable Air Suspension, Mopar Rock-Sliders, various Chief Products additional bashplates, a few other off-road protective features underneath and on top, and extensive recovery gear, to travel regularly from southern Michigan up north to my cabin located in northern Michigan on a river, where I hunt, fish, use as a base camp to go rock hunting with my wife, and spend time to just relax. We also travel extensively throughout Michigan's Upper Peninsula in the diesel Jeep. The new Scout Traveler with range extender appears to be EXACTLY what I have been looking for to eventually replace my diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee. Friends in California already own several different EVs (Teslas, Lexus, Kia, Rivian, Mustang), including a Rivian RS1 Quad Motor. My friends here in Michigan who own (or have in the past owned) EVs are much less enamoured with the EV ownership experience, to say the least. However, I have already placed a reservation deposit on a Scout Traveler with Range Extender!
I hasd asked Rivian prior to thier vehicle being in full production about having a bench seat up front. They asked why, I stayed why. Never made it to a production vehicle. Love seeing a bench in this. Hope it stays to production.
The scout marketing team deserves a raise. I don’t care how much they pay them. They’ve done an incredible job uniting nostalgia with innovation and outdoor identities!
Great video. I was interested in the SUV before now I'm wildly excited! Nichole did a phenomenal job explaining the overall philosophy and UI. I noticed at 41:20 that Apple CarPlay is one of the connectivity options, glad to see it.
Personally, I think a big thing that will differentiate Rivian from Scout is the type of buyers they draw in. There will be overlap, but I've seen a lot of people who have never considered buying an electric vehicle (myself included) really get excited about the Scouts. Especially because of the Harvester add-on. That, when you add-in their old school nostalgia and user serviceability, and Scout seems to bridge the gap between old school car and ICE lovers, while Rivian seems to nail the futuristic angle more and appeal to tech and EV enthusiasts a lot. In short, I think Scout is going to convert a lot of people who would never otherwise choose an EV, and who would never buy a Rivian.
@@jlaw1901Scouts literally just look exactly like rivians with different lights. Both companies will take each others sales and neither will succeed both are low production vehicles. Rivian has been around longer than 10 years and have NEVER made a single dollar in profit. In fact they burn through 1 billion in cash per QUARTER. They are on a one way track to bankruptcy and getting on blended knee to take money from VW shows that
This 💯. I don't fit in fully with the demographic for Rivian owners, but I have a launch green R1T. Love the truck but I'd never go hang out at a Rivian hub. If Scout makes it I will for sure switch.
This company gives me early Tesla vibes when everyone was just in love and excited with the mission/product. On the day of reveal I immediately ordered a Traveler EV. Wish I could have both actually but I’ll start with the Traveler. The last time I was this excited for a vehicle was when Model3 was announced and yes that was my first EV in 2019. Still have it too. Let’s go Scout!
@@zandercerlong9693not every car has a use case, they are focusing this on off road, putting more effort in the driver feel would be better for the target audience vs the exact opposite tech.
One of my top features I wanted on the Cybertruck was the bench seat and they totally blew it. LOVE bench seats!!! Reminds me of my dad's 1984 Chevrolet truck!
Some feedback for the Scout team: I basically will not own a Tesla, due to the fully (ish) digital cockpit and controls. This late 50’s dude need buttons and easy tactile ergonomically placed controls for heat, cooling, and, you know … cup holders… LOL. Also, some folks in my age group have “Older eyes”. Seriously, i would love to be able to increase the text size on whatever UI you develop! (Sucks getting old, the the alternative isn’t so great either… :) Also, kudos on the decision not to use dealers. I absolutely hate that experience, to the point where i would rather buy a used vehicle from a private seller rather than go through it again. As an old Scout owner I must say…. Both designs look awesome. Can’t wait to see the production models rolling off the line!
Good feedback. But beware the “no dealer” model. I had a Rivian R1S and the closest service center was a 5 hour drive away. If something minor or major went wrong with my vehicle, I would either have to drive it (or if a major problem, tow it!) over a mountain pass >350 miles away. Or I would have to wait for their mobile service team to get me on their schedule. The couple times that happened, I was 2-3 months out on their schedule. All to say, having a nearby dealership that has a service department is a major advantage enjoyed by most established car brands. Newcomers like the Scout will surely have horrible service capabilities unless they grow to massive scale…which I don’t know if that’ll ever happen given how niche they are. Rivian started niche and continues to grow…but only because they are massively going in debt to do so and getting handouts from the government (or better put, handouts from we taxpayers). The Scout looks great and will be cool…but a risky vehicle to buy for sure. Newcomers always have problems with fit and finish problems and often have critical flaws that arise…and how do you get those resolved if they don’t have a robust service network?!
In general, I really like the look of the Scout more than the R2, though I think the Scout is a little too big. But I was actually really impressed with the thoughtfulness that went into the tech. Being able to slide the controls to the other side on the screen is REALLY smart, but not something I've ever really thought about before. If they actually manage to get a bench seat in a production model, I may go for a Scout over the R2, after all!
Internal combustion and electric pair really well together and complement each other. We’ll probably reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere faster with hybrids, plug-in, hybrids and EREVs. Pure EV’s work on a smaller platform, but just looking at something like the Silverado EV shows how the weight becomes a problem very quickly.
As a former i3 owner I can tell you that any ICE range extended vehicle has all the standard servicing requirements of a normal ICE. As those motors are normally smaller, they have to work hard. It effectively negate any low/non-service advantage that BEVs enjoy.
We have been driving a Volt for 5ish years. There were years where it was 90%. Brake maintenance is lower, oil changes are more infrequent and we spent a lot less on gas. It really depends on how often you can drive without gas. I hope they make it diesel.
indeed, the i3rex generator was poorly thought out, as clearly underdimensioned, and it has to run inefficiently at high revs most of time to provide enough power
I tow & I'm not owning 2 vehicles. I'm using ICE 100% of the time or until I get a ranger extender where I can use it only 5-10% of the time. You guys need to get out of the way of progress because its not "perfect". You're not perfect either, get over it. How much towing did you do with an i3? 0. If you want to protest, go protest charging stations that aren't all pull through.
@@fnamelname3391, I tow too. I agree the Range Extender will be key. We will see how the specs come out. The Ram looks like it could work too. It’s not just range, but that many remote locations have no DCFC.
My Dad had a Scout when I was in grammar school and remember it on the driveway in NY. Rugged! Loved that vibe! To see this again does bring positive feelings! And oh my such a great effort of VW-USA and Rivian and that US history - seems they all start to 'get it'!!
Scout really looks super interesting, love that the software, it is looking top notch, so important. I think for an initial view they have nailed it in many aspects!
Or noted the aficionados that replaced the body with aftermarket fiberglass parts, members of SIMTA, the Scout & International Motor Truck Association, Vintage Truck magazine, and more...
Scout was very popular when i was younger. Ft Wayne had a international factory back then. 0-40 mph they were fun. At highway speed not so much. Hope this brand works out.
Just so you all know they have been developing this for about three or four years now. VW bought Scout in 2021 & shortly after that they announced that these were going to be the first two vehicles. In reality they probably have been working on it for a few years before that but at the very least it’s going on four years and by 2027 it would be a six year timeframe.
Great Video as always. Really impressed with what Scout showed at CES. Having the on board generator option will be huge for people that are worried about transitioning to a full EV. I personally would rather have the pure electric model to not have the maint of the gas generator so really happy they are planning both options. The interior looks amazing. Love the 70s throwback with modern touches. Really hoping they can keep that design for production. The bench seat in the Terra is really cool. Like the UI ideas where you can move the controls by the passenger and make it easy for them to enter stuff into the GPS and control the music. The satellite connectivity is really neat too. Moved my R2 deposit over towards a Traveler. Really looking forward to these.
I read on another post that by the time this comes out, battery technology should be near 500/600 miles..making the gas extender an extra complication. I kinda agree.
I agree that I don't think the extra complication will be worth it for most people. I don't agree that we will see vehicles of this size with a 600 mile range in two years.... especially from a "new" company. Even the expensive porsche stuff that just came out isn't close to there yet....
Yeah, I reserved the Harvester option, but I think there is a solid chance I change my mind, it's going to depend heavily on how the next few years go with the advancement of batteries and charging infrastructure.
In the last 10 years battery tech has only improved density by 85%. So in 2 years we are looking at the change of maybe 15% in density. With 33s or 35s density would need to 300% of the current battery to make the EREV not relevant.
Sold! I have my money down on the EV. I have an ID4 but this is my new truck. Can't wait! I want Hemi Orange with a Tan Interior. :) Let them know we want to be able to use our truck as a power source, in case of emergency. I live in LA and we have just dealt with a major emergency, I'm sure you've heard. It would have been great to be able to keep out basic electrical needs going by connecting to our EV!
@@otavongryf1379 I thought there were tariffs that and other onerous regulations that prevented Chinese EVs from being sold here? Although technically I do drive a Chinese EV, I have a Volvo c40 which is a geely cma platform car.
true... but the Chinese EVs i see are really impressive in some ways and HALF fucking baked in others. or maybe Chinese tastes just differ to mine... but the details on these scouts appeal for sure.
As a Gen Xer I love this design.We are the only generation to grow up in both an analog and digital world. From Tonka trucks to video games to personal computers and then cell phones. We grew up through it all and this reminds me of each of those times all wrapped in to one beautiful package. I remember the International Scout fondly. Both the interior and exterior of these new Scouts are near perfect. Rugged looking and off-road capable. I've always hated the Rivian headlights so when I saw these I was happy. These new Scouts seem to hit on everything that I and other Gen Xers want in an electric vehicle. Don't discount this demographic. We have disposable income and this is a player in my opinion. I call that interior "business casual". What a great mix of materials and colors. I especially like the center console and arm rest design. Unlike Kyle, I prefer the screens to be integrated into the dash and not sticking up above the dash. Might be an OCD thing on my part. I think raising the middle of the dash to match the geometry of the accessory mount might look good while being able to fit a taller screen in that space. I would also like smaller bezels to increase screen size. A matte or non-glare screen would also be preferable and aesthetically would align better with the non-glare physical components. I use a non-glare TCL NXTFRAME tv as a monitor in my home office and I will never go back to a screen with glare. The UX itself looks to be amazing. I'll be interested to see how the placement of the hvac vents work being under the screen. I think it might be genius as it might cool the driver and passenger down without drying out their eyes. As for the extended range gas motor, I'm all for it. Who doesn't love an off-road EV with a jerry can on the back? I bought a Tesla because it's fun to drive and I like the instant torque, speed, and safety. I don't own it because of the environment as the electricity for the chargers has to come from somewhere but that's another discussion. Having a gas motor or what basically sounds like a generator just to charge the batteries is a game changer in my opinion. No transmissions or other components to worry about as its function appears only to be charging. I say get rid of the frunks in all EVs and install gas powered motors with fuel tanks large enough to double the range to 700 miles or more. Carrying extra fuel for longer off-road camping trips would be a great way to charge back to full before ever leaving camp. I'm curious what the MPG equivalent will be on the motor ie how many miles of charge can 1 gallon of gas provide. I'll continue to watch videos and reviews leading up to the 2027 launch and if everything still seems positive I will buy one for sure. Bravo to the Scout team! I'm sad this is the year that I decided not to go to CES. By the way, if the Scout team is reading this, I can be bought. My consulting services are available :)
Funnily, lve gone from Rotring Ink pen in the late '70s as an Architect who predicted the AutoCad machine in late October '83 to now awaiting my CYBRTRK and 4 CYBERCABS ( 102 VW/ Porsche cars since '81 )
These things are soooo cool....I love me a Bronco, K5 blazerish, scout truck/suv. I can REALLY enjoy your long videos. They have so much good content. I can't always enjoy long videos but yours......I can fully enjoy.
Direct buying from the automaker is a huge plus. Everyone hates the hours that you have to spend in a dealership buying a vehicle. I spent over 3 hours in a dealership when I bought a vehicle for cash with no financing needed!!!! In this day and age dealerships just waste too much of our precious time.
I like just going in, testing a car, and driving it home the same day. Not really comfortable spending $50k online without getting to see the physical vehicle for months.
I have heard on media in Germany that Rivian tore down a Audi Q6 and retro fitted computers and software and made a fully drivable vehicle in 3 months, which is mightily impressive. So, 2 years to finalize the Scout? Yeah, I think they can do that.
That's the nice thing about how Scout is offering choices. 350 miles gets you a long way off road. But those who tow and do overland have the EREV option. I'm curious how the take rate will change over the course of several years of production. A lot of pre-orders for the EREV over BEV. will EREV owners find that range anxiety is overblown for them and go for a BEV after a while? The pre-order take rate may also be explained by the fact the only other EREV of this type in America is the Ram, so those interested in EREVs are just jumping on the pre-order due to lack of choice
@deansmits006 unless one tows long distance or goes far out off grid, EREV won't be needed as charging infrastructure improves. I would expect BEV take rate to increase over the next few years.
I think we forget about VIA motors about 15 years ago who was at the time headed by bob lutz who was the father of the Chevy volt. They started the movement of an electric truck/van that was ran with a gasoline generator which ran at a constant RPM to power the battery/electric motor. I see EREV’s as a child of that idea.
Looks great! Noticed that it's missing overhead grab handles to get inside. Also, the rear seat should have B-pillar vents. Agree with Kyle that the rear seatbacks look a bit low and would like to be able to drop the seat bottom down a bit more (as a tall guy). Hoping for heated rear seats and an electric pano roof shade, AND bidirectional V2H/V2G through the NACS port that will work with a Quasar 2, DCBel Ara, etc.
Vehicle to Home would be amazing for this. If you have a power outage you could keep the house running off the battery but if needed you still have the range extender.
If they get this right, this is the first EV that I am sure I will buy. The large-enough battery and the range extender with this being intended for off-road use is brilliant. I’d love a Rivian, but I live in Minnesota and go to areas for offeoading with no fast charging and would be scared to do this with the Rivian. This would also be brilliant to have the range extender to also allow for off-grid and extended off-grid use, including for using the range extender to keep the battery powered when using electric appliances powered from the cars battery.
Excellent update, thanks -- we had an International Harvester Travelall when I was a kid, and Scouts were always tres cool. Also: 25 years as a UX designer, I can vouch for two things: it's VERY exciting to have a brand take UX integration so seriously, and Nicole is a rock star.
A friend of mine in my local Rivian club is a (former) employee. Rivian originally had plans for a full-size R1 truck and a LWV R1S, some rumored online to be called the R1X, you can find patents sketched out online. They told employees that development stopped to fully focus on R2 for scaling since money was getting tight and market conditions weren’t right for a more expensive model. I like how VW is differentiating it with an EREV powertrain, it’s more rugged, a little larger, great design
They need to just quit charging so much for little electric motors and a some batteries. EVs are glorified golf carts and *should* cost far less than a standard car/truck with a ICE engine.
Agree on two fronts: 1) Direct buy from manufacturer is preferred and 2) Yeah aggressive schedule to produce. However, Volkswagen Porsche came up with a 918 hybrid electric and a very short order and sold them all out. I don’t know that you’ll get the same engineers or the same people working on it, but they put their mind to it, they can do some amazing stuff. Can’t say I would even consider a regular VW, but I would definitely have a lot of interest in this.
Agree, finally. But I hope it has a fold down arm rest. Can you believe Kyle wants to put a dog in the front seat!? Imagine the smell and the mud. Gross.
Kyle - during your interview with Nicole she talked about merging the physical/tactile buttons with the digital interface. Scout should consider talking to dealers/integrators that work with lighting and/or audio/video smart systems. I sell/install/program smart-home lighting systems; the balance between the physical lighting-control buttons and the app/touch-screen interface is an important one when striking a balance for homeowners. Especially those homeowners who are new to smart-systems in their homes. A good integrator would be a good source for an outside-the-box view of merging physical and digital.
I see why Kyle says he wants a REX in this vehicle, but personally I would prefer it was EV only and all effort is placed on improving the charging network, especially for those with trailers. It is a cool car for sure, but I would never consider going back to an ICE car in any form. That's just me of course and I understand Kyle's perspective. All the best.
I'm glad they are offering it as an option and people can choose which version to get based on their own needs. Options are great for consumers! Personally, I would just get the battery only version....but that's all I need.
I'm with you 100%. Improve the charging infrastructure. Increase battery density and capacity. Offer the range extender as part of a tow package for those who need it.
I think that is the goal. Initially, EREV offerings will be popular, especially for those towing and over landing. But EV should become more popular as the charging infrastructure gets good, and people become less range anxious
Terra request - a rear camera that works with the tailgate down, either on the top of the gate like Super Duty or keep it in the bumper. I frequently haul long materials and lose the use of the camera when I have to put the tailgate down. Great video, can't wait for more.
Love the direct to consumer sales with dedicated showrooms and the balance of tactile buttons with elegant software systems. In my next vehicle I want the intuitive navigation of menus so I can focus on driving safely
One thing I want all EV startups to create is “zombie mode”. A super basic screen layout that covers only necessary vehicle functionality and never changes. Make it go offline entirely and make this the default mode after some sort of hard reset. That way if you go out of business we won’t be stuck with a bunch of obnoxious glitches. But you can market it as the mode for all post apocalypse scenarios 😂
@ love it, much more positive spin. I was thinking you make the car a zombie, but that’s a little bit of a downer. Luck favors the prepared and if you buy a car from a startup, you’ll need all the luck you can get
Burning question in my mind. Can the Harvester get the Scout home if there is a battery failure? @EdisonMotors is doing a good job with their Semi truck and making sure they can keep going even when there is a failure of some sort. I believe they had to go with a different motor controller or generator controller to get this to work. So if Scout Motors wants to have this redundancy, NOW would be the time to design this in.
My take at the end of the video…. Pluses… Bench seat (hopefully a 40-20-40 with flip down), dog,camp,sleep mode, no big ass screen going over the dash line, option of an extender (not sure I’ll do yet), an actual spare tire, appears they aren’t showing a low profile tire, the Scout like speedo, Minus …. That they might be entertaining including internet influencers in development testing, that steering wheel, rear located charging port, appears to not be the easiest to get in and out of (that will be the biggest killer of a sale, too high a leg lift or cramped drivers seat for the taller,larger, differently abled). My comments to the Scout team…. Looks like a great start! As a person that actually drove or owned from the original Scout with the 4cyl and full lockers to the Scout then Scout II, my hope is that the focus remains on the practicality and capability. Don’t go to low profile wheel and tires for looks! Don’t listen to crazy requests for software features that do not age well at the expense of features that are useful like intelligent ways to do vehicle pre or in-use conditioning of battery using full feature phone apps (including an option for Apple or Android CarPlay integration). Have an actual AM/FM radio. Have a mechanical key capability for lock and unlocking the vehicle and compartments (batteries fail keys don’t). Have a base interior that reflects those of us that have muddy dogs and haul things that may be slimy or wet and smelly (Ford nailed it with the Pro). And please please remember that there is a very broad diversity of body types and degrees of capabilities, so remember that all of the other features and capabilities of your vehicles will be moot if the potential buyer finds it difficult to get in or out of the vehicle (or the passengers that they may need to transport).
As a huge believer in backing into parking spaces I like the rear mounted charging port. Apple CarPlay was on the screen at 41:20 as one of the connectivity options, presumably Android Auto will also be there.
@ since these are vehicles that are far more likely to be pulling a trailer and very few CPOs are actually installing pull thru stalls, then I say bow to the reality that lacking pull thru stalls you will always be unhitching to use a back into stall model.
@@michaelwitkiewicz7052 Yup, we are excited about this explicitly to pull a travel trailer. The range extender should remove the need to recharge while hitched, just buy gasoline. Seems to me pulling in forward while hitched won't really work either since you'll block the driving lane. We are also on the preorder list for a Pebble Flow trailer. It can be remotely moved while unhitched, so it can be backed into a stall and charge both at the same time! Single axle, dual motor, so it can spin around the center of the axle to get into tight spots.
@ point is there are places that you can stick your nose in an end stall and not block traffic significantly with a trailer but I’ve never seen one where you can do the same with a cybertruck or Silverado port location. Except of course a drive thru which are relatively rare except at the very newest locations. I drive a Lightning and I do tow occasionally so I pay attention to this on my regular road trips route as I will be towing on this route later this year.
I reserved both as well with the range extenders. I just hope they can stick with their proposed prices so I can afford at least one of them! I learned how to drive in a 73 Scout II so no stranger to the brand and legacy. I absolutely love what the design team has created and wish them the best at getting this to market on time. Looking forward to the development as they progress!
Love this and wish it was available now. I am a 46 year old car enthusiast (so maybe older than your average demographic), my first car was a 1973 Travellal (does it count as a first car if I was never able to drive it?) Later I owned a 73 Scout II that I loved despite it being broken in many ways. I love the idea of a E REV. This might be a Might be a replacement for my 1997 Land Cruiser 80 series (and maybe he Audi). A Rivian couldn't do it. I have to carry extra gas when I go offroad as I might be offroad for hundreds of miles and multiple days and pull an offroad teardrop trailer. I love the look, even better than a Bronco. One thing I can't agree on is I rarely want a truck to have a lower seat. One thing I don't like about most Toyotas....I have plenty of head room, but my 36" inseam feels constricted. Also despite being totally into tech, I want physical buttons, I hate having to go into menus to do anything.....maybe I am just not good at multi-tasking, but I can't drive and do that at the same time.
@@Jordan_Schiefer Have there been any updates on the dealership lawsuit from the VW dealers trying to stop Scout from selling directly? Would absolutely hate for such a cool revival to stifled by the cabal of middlemen....
I agree that controls need to be operable without more than a very brief glance. This allows the driver to stay aware of the driving environment while still making necessary changes to the cabin environment. This is EXTREMELY important.
Our next EV will be a Rivian because no dealership non sense. After our 500e fiasco never again. The Scout products are a bit overkill for our needs but so so awesome
Tesla is the only way to go, full use of the Charging network and the cars drive themselves like 95% of the time having a private Chauffeur is the ultimate luxury
@ the factory to build the R3 isn’t even built yet that care wont be in your driveway for 3-4 years IF Rivne doesnt go bankrupt by then as they are burning 1 billion in cash per quarter with no path to profitability with their current models
@ I’m not sure why you are arguing but okay? The more EV choice the better. I spend a considerable amount of time in Europe and get depressed with the offerings here in Canada..
We want continuous updates for new features and stability. Maintain positioning of buttons as best you can though. Do not fall for your customer's requests when it comes to software, that's how unwanted bloat happens.
This is a going to be a monster hit if VW/Rivian/Scout can pull it off like the concept seen here. In the suggestions department; i prefer my vehicles to have the essentials but I really prefer simplicity over having all the bells and whistles. Consider a "base" model that's really aimed at people like me who want an honest truck but hold the frills. There's a distinction to be made between having everything you need and nothing you don't and just plain decontented. No one wants to buy a vehicle and be reminded that they didn't get this or that feature. Anyway, this is one exciting truck and i can't wait to drive one!
Kyle, I've watched your videos for maybe 18 months. I'm a diehard combustion engine guy but enthusiastic about what electric vehicles can do. I've never seen one of your videos and said to my self that I have switch to an electric vehicle....until today. For the first time, even before the video reached the point where you interviewed Nicole, I was sold. I put down a deposit for a reservation on the Scout Traveler EREV. It was the right combination of style, functionality, and ability to have that small combustion engine to save your a$$ when you need it and you know you're gonna need it at some point. After your conversation with Nicole, it made me even more enthusiastic about Scout. I am hopeful that in 2-3 years, I'll be able to purchase my first EV, a Scout Traveler!
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I wouldn't call it a combustion engine, but a gas generator that can charge the EV battery as you drive. That's the difference between PHEV and EREV. Cheers
I own a BMW i3 and I think this is the ultimate vehicle, just wish they had a lower spec at a lower cost. Having an engine in the back is the ULTIMATE key to the new generation of travel. Yes, if you only go back and forth to work and the grocery store all electric is fine. If you want to travel, tow, use the vehicle for utility, this is perfect.
@ every modern engine is combustion.
Nicole was awesome! Scout has some real ones working for them.
Totally agree! I remember when she worked for Rivian and talked through some of the initial UX when the R1T was about to launch! She's a HUGE asset for the Scout Motors brand
“Real” what? She should be knowledgeable, she is part of design team
@@readinessmediaAnd a good communicator!
A couple of items that I would like to see coming are
-built in dash cams
-exterior LED lights that are replaceable, without having to change the entire lense. Bring back the replaceable bulb
-Full sized spare tire
-built in air compressor
-coil springs, air suspension doesn't last long in the colder climates, very expensive to repair
The interior, the bench seat and the steering wheel, all make me think of a 70s interior modernized for the current day, and I don't hate it
I think that's what they are trying to do. He mentioned the screen not being taller over the dash. I think they are trying to keep the original dash look from the old trucks. It would make it look a little to modern if the extended the screen. Also, like the Rivians, they are geared towards outdoorsy feel so you wouldn't want a screen taking up the view. Kind of an out of sight out of mind situation. I like the truck for the most part, but there are some things I hope they change. Maybe make the center part of the seat fold down so you can use it as an armrest like some of the current trucks have.
@@Member00101 a few other reviewers have indicated that this will be a part of the bench seat option. now to what level, if/when brought to market, only time will tell.
@@Member00101 he actually says in this video that it has a center section that folds down--it just wasn't operational yet on the display model.
One of the Best looking truch interiors I ever seen 🤷🏽♂️
If it weren't marketed towards those who were still buying cars in the 70s, sure
As an owner of a 72 and 74 Scout, I loved the design. Glad to see they are bringing it back. Sorry I won't be able to afford one though. I bought mine from the International dealer in Missoula, MT.........he was the best car dealer I ever dealt with........bar none.
The first truck I remember my father having was the International Travelall. Amazing vehicle. We pulled a camper all over the country. It was an SUV before SUVs were a thing.
Missoula Truck Sales was great! Dad ordered a new 70 Travelall from the dealer in East Grand Forks, MN before he retired from the AF, swapping it straight across for a 72 heavy 1/2 ton 4wd pickup, and finally told me that he recovered from the urge to rescue IH Light Line trucks after building his livestock puller ranch truck, a 75 1-ton American LaFrance international surplus from Missoula County Airport. I bought a '71 Scout II from that area in 1996, crawled all over it with Dad's supervision to tighten every nut, bolt, and screw before driving 2600 miles home to Cordova, Alaska that September. I'd visit with people who'd approach the Scout on my way home, exclaiming that they loved theirs, though it rusted apart. RIP, Rust In Peace/Place. (IH didn't paint the interiors of body panels with rustproofing until 1979.) I was enamored with the seating position when I rode in a 74 Scout II up Miller Creek, with a good view from the raised rear seat.
@@charlesbranch4120 Great story..........I used my two Scouts to hunt all over the Missoula area and loved every minute of it. Still miss it to this day.
The only thing that “they” are “bringing back” is the name, Scout. That’s it, just the name.
Nice
I was a senior in high school in 1979. Some of my friends had 4x4's. I couldn't afford a truck but the one I wanted was the Scout. Never bought one but have been following Scout restorer channels for the last 5 years. Rivians excited me because they looked like Scouts and the biz side of me thought it was genius that RJ bought the closed Mitsubishi factory for a fraction of the value, to build vehicles. Did not yet purchase an R1 but did get my reservation for an R2. Now that VW and Rivian are working together on systems, and seeing the prototype Scout (and finally having cash) I'm going to reserve a Scout for myself. I usually only buy used and never first generation, but both R2 for around town and a Scout to head up to Sedona, AZ are worth breaking my "rules" to me. Hey, my Dad built an electric mini-bike for me when I was 12. I've been an EV guy for 5 decades!
Reserved my Traveller SUV with gas generator.
I am biased as a Rivian owner, but that being said, I am not sure why you are surprised with how far they have come. Despite some differences (range extender, tactile switches, etc) they have looked at what Rivian has done successfully and followed suit. From a near production ready prototype, to building a community, to hitting that rugged yet refined balance. I just personally think they are very similar. I wish Scout the best of luck, I think they look great, but do feel like they are direct competitors with Rivian despite what the Scout team is saying.
Rivian may make more money off the technology they license to Scout than from vehicle sales.
Rivians look like modern Scouts as much as these do.
@@GeeDeeBird doubt it. This isn't going to be a high volume vehicle. There's not enough trust in the brand staying in business.
@@GeeDeeBirdtheir net profit per vehicle is at about -$38,000 in last quarter, so yeah, it's not hard to earn more than a loss
You have to think of the Rivian as starting from the premium/luxury space and working backwards to bring off-road ability to it's adventure-minded audience. Scout is starting from the opposite end - full off-road capability and building upward to give their audience more features and comfort.
As a die hard Tesla fan and investor, I have to say I am absolutely in love with this design. I wish more than anything Tesla would break out of their mold and produce something like this. The styling for me is spot ON! 😘
We watch Kyle from the other side of the ocean ( Europe ) since he started tests and eventually got a Rivian truck.. Shout out and big love for both Rivian & Scout we really wish this joint-venture partnership to grow strong & fast to extend over here to Europe we can not wait enough for any of these cool brands that produce such awesome customer oriented vehicles.. from all models and versions both brands officially unveil & presented : Rivian R2 & Scout Traveler are our favorites !
As a Tesla fan and investor, you should know they'll never make anything like this. Tesla knows nothing about design and are not very creative. They also live iPads and no buttons. They're the opposite of this.
@@brianmccann5375 Haha ok. What’s the best selling car in the world again? Oh yeah it’s a Tesla. I guess the world disagrees but do you
@@MikeHewitt That doesn't mean it doesn't look like shit.
@@MikeHewittTesla is going to lose massive market share in the US because el Presidente Musk is the absolute pinnacle of douchebags - oh and then there's the >1000 legit cases of wrongful death that are due to Musk being too cheap to pay for lidar detectors for their autopilot death-traps. Plus here we are still building cars out of plastic so all the little gear drive motors fail within 5 years, and then there's the rusting "stainless-steel" panels that the Cyberfockker is made of 😂. Nothing says entitled idiot-douchebag quite like a Tesla.
I ordered the Traveler EREV love the look and design. My Dad had a Scout II. We took that up mountain trails in Alaska where others wouldn't go. crossed rivers, creeks drove on the tundra hunting. They did a good job with the buttons, I don't all screens. Buttons are best for a rugged veh. Needs 18's with the 35s. Seats are great don't make them high like the scrappy new trucks where you can't see behind you. Had a Silverado and you look back and just see a high headrest in the way.
This will be the pinnacle of new offroad.
Totally agree with the lower seat backs. The headrests will do their job in an accident... leave the seats low if possible with flush headrest when not in use in the center seats if possible, which will allow for much better overall visibility.
In the early 1960s my family of 4 had a 1/2 cab red and white SCOUT as our only vehicle. Our father purchased it at Rowe’s garage in Phillips, Maine. She and I spent countless hours riding in the back of that vehicle in all seasons (including Maine winters). Many memories, including the time our blankets were set on fire by a cigarette butt our father threw out the window while we were traveling to Rangeley to go smelting. That scout was tough and reliable. Never let us done in the backwoods of western Maine
Best luck to the new Scout generation. Hope you meet and surpass your legacy
Note she refers to my sister
Definitely want to buy direct from Scout! NO DEALER!
@@Json918buying and service is two different things. My truck was bought at one dealer and is serviced at another. As they mentioned, there is a good chance VE dealers are the Scout service centers.
@@mydroneadventures8807 Which is a great thing because Rivian's big issue is their service centers are too spread out and it's hard to get them repaired
I am too young to have ever known Scout, but I absolutely love the styling. Nothing else matches that classic style, even the new Broncos don't look "Bronco" enough. If it can deliver, it's top of the list for my next EV.
The bronco was based off of the scout
I'm a 58 yr old
OFF ROADER and
MECHANIC (44 yrs exp) as well.
And I can tell you from firsthand experience there are a few things that are similar between this
"NEW VERSION" and the
"LEGENDARY ORIGINAL VERSION"
(Especially with the "I-H SCOUT II"):
(1) (DEAD GIVEAWAY HERE)
TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE
REAR SIDE WIDOWS ON THE SUV.
The original is the same as the old,
(2) SPARE TIRE and GAS CAN MOUNT,
(3) SEATS,
(4) SCOUTS WERE VERY WELL KNOWN
FOR HAVING A POSITRACK REAR
ON THEM AS WELL,
BOTH OLD AND THIS NEW,
But now if they do come out with
GAS MOTORS for this NEW SCOUT
only time will tell.
Also as well the original SCOUT also had a DIESEL MOTOR as well optional,
But the DIESEL MOTOR equipped SCOUTS didn't sell very well.
🤔 But if so I do wonder if they will have the same size motors
(METRIC SIZES unlike the original
CUBIC INCH SIZES of old of course)
As the original SCOUT had.
Also the NUTS, BOLTS, ETC will be of
METRIC SIZES and not the FRACTIONAL TYPE of old as well of course.
🤔 Likewise I doubt it seriously, but often wonder if BODY PANELS, BUMPERS, ETC of the new might interchange with that of the old?
If so, a lot of folks in the future might be watching for one of these newer to get tired and swap them in some of their ANTIQUE SCOUTS as well,
😮OH THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE FOR MANY OTHER SCOUT LOVERS LIKE MYSELF!!
The point is like he said:
This is still 2 years away and a lot can and will happen between now and then.
But as for my tired old antique loving GREASE MONKEYS
(Old phrase for a MECHANIC) HIDE:
I LOVE IT, AND WOULD LOVE A SHOT AT TRYING IT OUT BEFORE I GO TO THAT:
"GREAT GREASE MONKEYS SHOP IN THE SKY."
My dad was one of those guys who named his cars - In 1970s Alaska, his International Scout was named “Lurch” because of its herky-jerky shifter. That thing could go anywhere and could still start when tires were freezing to the ground! The weirdest feature I remember were the twin independent controls for the front wipers - impossible to synchronize! :-). This new Scout looks to be a worthy successor.
Kyle, I wish you mentioned to the software manager the importance of having charging data while charging. Things like how many kw the car is requesting, how many kw the charger is giving, the amps, the voltage, battery temperature. Also things like battery state of health and battery preconditioning. Is it gonna have a heat pump or not. I feel like too many things were needed to be asked about. We need the UI to show us more data so we know and be able to optimize the range
CONGRATULATIONS on being the goto Youtubber for EV -related content.
The Scout Traveler really tugs on my heartstrings. Back in 1970, at the age of 14, I learned to drive with my Uncle John, in his '69 Scout. He'd shift the gears for me on the 4-speed and I would work the pedals and steer. I will never forget that experience! I am a 69-year old retiring professional, who uses his (owned since brand new) 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 Overland Ecodiesel (currently has 109K miles) w/ Offroad Adventure II Pkg (w/ rear LSD/low-range locker), Adjustable Air Suspension, Mopar Rock-Sliders, various Chief Products additional bashplates, a few other off-road protective features underneath and on top, and extensive recovery gear, to travel regularly from southern Michigan up north to my cabin located in northern Michigan on a river, where I hunt, fish, use as a base camp to go rock hunting with my wife, and spend time to just relax. We also travel extensively throughout Michigan's Upper Peninsula in the diesel Jeep. The new Scout Traveler with range extender appears to be EXACTLY what I have been looking for to eventually replace my diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee. Friends in California already own several different EVs (Teslas, Lexus, Kia, Rivian, Mustang), including a Rivian RS1 Quad Motor. My friends here in Michigan who own (or have in the past owned) EVs are much less enamoured with the EV ownership experience, to say the least. However, I have already placed a reservation deposit on a Scout Traveler with Range Extender!
I hasd asked Rivian prior to thier vehicle being in full production about having a bench seat up front. They asked why, I stayed why. Never made it to a production vehicle. Love seeing a bench in this. Hope it stays to production.
The scout marketing team deserves a raise. I don’t care how much they pay them. They’ve done an incredible job uniting nostalgia with innovation and outdoor identities!
Great video. I was interested in the SUV before now I'm wildly excited! Nichole did a phenomenal job explaining the overall philosophy and UI. I noticed at 41:20 that Apple CarPlay is one of the connectivity options, glad to see it.
No one under 60 will have much affinity for the brand lineage but the execution of design here is awesome
Personally, I think a big thing that will differentiate Rivian from Scout is the type of buyers they draw in. There will be overlap, but I've seen a lot of people who have never considered buying an electric vehicle (myself included) really get excited about the Scouts. Especially because of the Harvester add-on. That, when you add-in their old school nostalgia and user serviceability, and Scout seems to bridge the gap between old school car and ICE lovers, while Rivian seems to nail the futuristic angle more and appeal to tech and EV enthusiasts a lot.
In short, I think Scout is going to convert a lot of people who would never otherwise choose an EV, and who would never buy a Rivian.
It doesn’t hurt that the Scouts are some of the best looking vehicles ever
Their biggest hurdle will be consumer confidence that they'll stay in business...again
@@jlaw1901Scouts literally just look exactly like rivians with different lights. Both companies will take each others sales and neither will succeed both are low production vehicles. Rivian has been around longer than 10 years and have NEVER made a single dollar in profit. In fact they burn through 1 billion in cash per QUARTER. They are on a one way track to bankruptcy and getting on blended knee to take money from VW shows that
This 💯. I don't fit in fully with the demographic for Rivian owners, but I have a launch green R1T. Love the truck but I'd never go hang out at a Rivian hub. If Scout makes it I will for sure switch.
@@veganpottertheveganthey are backed by VW.
Props to the design lady. She is very articulate. Very good at answering questions concisely.
This company gives me early Tesla vibes when everyone was just in love and excited with the mission/product. On the day of reveal I immediately ordered a Traveler EV. Wish I could have both actually but I’ll start with the Traveler. The last time I was this excited for a vehicle was when Model3 was announced and yes that was my first EV in 2019. Still have it too. Let’s go Scout!
Hope they can stay in business. They better hurry up and license self driving from tesla any car manufacturer without it wont survive
@@zandercerlong9693not every car has a use case, they are focusing this on off road, putting more effort in the driver feel would be better for the target audience vs the exact opposite tech.
One of my top features I wanted on the Cybertruck was the bench seat and they totally blew it. LOVE bench seats!!! Reminds me of my dad's 1984 Chevrolet truck!
I hope these vehicles come to Australia. Also, loved the UX interview with Nicole. So cool to see the development of the UI.
Terra and Traveler names are perfect and make complete sense since more people travel in SUVs than trucks in general.
Some feedback for the Scout team: I basically will not own a Tesla, due to the fully (ish) digital cockpit and controls. This late 50’s dude need buttons and easy tactile ergonomically placed controls for heat, cooling, and, you know … cup holders… LOL. Also, some folks in my age group have “Older eyes”. Seriously, i would love to be able to increase the text size on whatever UI you develop! (Sucks getting old, the the alternative isn’t so great either… :) Also, kudos on the decision not to use dealers. I absolutely hate that experience, to the point where i would rather buy a used vehicle from a private seller rather than go through it again. As an old Scout owner I must say…. Both designs look awesome. Can’t wait to see the production models rolling off the line!
Ditto.
Good feedback. But beware the “no dealer” model. I had a Rivian R1S and the closest service center was a 5 hour drive away. If something minor or major went wrong with my vehicle, I would either have to drive it (or if a major problem, tow it!) over a mountain pass >350 miles away. Or I would have to wait for their mobile service team to get me on their schedule. The couple times that happened, I was 2-3 months out on their schedule.
All to say, having a nearby dealership that has a service department is a major advantage enjoyed by most established car brands. Newcomers like the Scout will surely have horrible service capabilities unless they grow to massive scale…which I don’t know if that’ll ever happen given how niche they are. Rivian started niche and continues to grow…but only because they are massively going in debt to do so and getting handouts from the government (or better put, handouts from we taxpayers).
The Scout looks great and will be cool…but a risky vehicle to buy for sure. Newcomers always have problems with fit and finish problems and often have critical flaws that arise…and how do you get those resolved if they don’t have a robust service network?!
In general, I really like the look of the Scout more than the R2, though I think the Scout is a little too big. But I was actually really impressed with the thoughtfulness that went into the tech. Being able to slide the controls to the other side on the screen is REALLY smart, but not something I've ever really thought about before. If they actually manage to get a bench seat in a production model, I may go for a Scout over the R2, after all!
Blythewood SC here, the plant is coming along nicely.
Internal combustion and electric pair really well together and complement each other. We’ll probably reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere faster with hybrids, plug-in, hybrids and EREVs. Pure EV’s work on a smaller platform, but just looking at something like the Silverado EV shows how the weight becomes a problem very quickly.
As a former i3 owner I can tell you that any ICE range extended vehicle has all the standard servicing requirements of a normal ICE. As those motors are normally smaller, they have to work hard. It effectively negate any low/non-service advantage that BEVs enjoy.
We have been driving a Volt for 5ish years. There were years where it was 90%. Brake maintenance is lower, oil changes are more infrequent and we spent a lot less on gas. It really depends on how often you can drive without gas. I hope they make it diesel.
indeed, the i3rex generator was poorly thought out, as clearly underdimensioned, and it has to run inefficiently at high revs most of time to provide enough power
The "fuel refresh" mode on our PHEV is infuriating.
I tow & I'm not owning 2 vehicles. I'm using ICE 100% of the time or until I get a ranger extender where I can use it only 5-10% of the time. You guys need to get out of the way of progress because its not "perfect". You're not perfect either, get over it. How much towing did you do with an i3? 0. If you want to protest, go protest charging stations that aren't all pull through.
@@fnamelname3391, I tow too. I agree the Range Extender will be key. We will see how the specs come out. The Ram looks like it could work too. It’s not just range, but that many remote locations have no DCFC.
My Dad had a Scout when I was in grammar school and remember it on the driveway in NY. Rugged! Loved that vibe! To see this again does bring positive feelings! And oh my such a great effort of VW-USA and Rivian and that US history - seems they all start to 'get it'!!
Absolutely love the UI. Incredibly thoughtful and thorough considering that they are still at least 2 years from launch.
That’s cause it’s Rivian’s software.
Scout really looks super interesting, love that the software, it is looking top notch, so important. I think for an initial view they have nailed it in many aspects!
"Scouts always come back." I see that someone has never played age of empires... lol
Or noted the aficionados that replaced the body with aftermarket fiberglass parts, members of SIMTA, the Scout & International Motor Truck Association, Vintage Truck magazine, and more...
😂
Scout was very popular when i was younger. Ft Wayne had a international factory back then. 0-40 mph they were fun. At highway speed not so much. Hope this brand works out.
Just so you all know they have been developing this for about three or four years now. VW bought Scout in 2021 & shortly after that they announced that these were going to be the first two vehicles. In reality they probably have been working on it for a few years before that but at the very least it’s going on four years and by 2027 it would be a six year timeframe.
Ich hoffe er kommt auch nach Deutschland . Noch nie hat mich ein Auto spontan so begeistert ❤
The content with the ux designer was incredible !!!!
Great Video as always. Really impressed with what Scout showed at CES. Having the on board generator option will be huge for people that are worried about transitioning to a full EV. I personally would rather have the pure electric model to not have the maint of the gas generator so really happy they are planning both options. The interior looks amazing. Love the 70s throwback with modern touches. Really hoping they can keep that design for production. The bench seat in the Terra is really cool. Like the UI ideas where you can move the controls by the passenger and make it easy for them to enter stuff into the GPS and control the music. The satellite connectivity is really neat too. Moved my R2 deposit over towards a Traveler. Really looking forward to these.
my 2nd VW ID.4 lease ends right around when Scout becomes available...perfect timing ... hope they make their deadlines.
EREVs make so much sense for trucks and large suvs
I read on another post that by the time this comes out, battery technology should be near 500/600 miles..making the gas extender an extra complication.
I kinda agree.
I agree that I don't think the extra complication will be worth it for most people. I don't agree that we will see vehicles of this size with a 600 mile range in two years.... especially from a "new" company. Even the expensive porsche stuff that just came out isn't close to there yet....
Yeah, I reserved the Harvester option, but I think there is a solid chance I change my mind, it's going to depend heavily on how the next few years go with the advancement of batteries and charging infrastructure.
Not going to happen until Solid State come out.
In the last 10 years battery tech has only improved density by 85%. So in 2 years we are looking at the change of maybe 15% in density. With 33s or 35s density would need to 300% of the current battery to make the EREV not relevant.
Volkswagen has a production deal with QuantumScape for mass producing their solid state batteries. I am super curious to see what comes out of that.
Sold! I have my money down on the EV. I have an ID4 but this is my new truck. Can't wait! I want Hemi Orange with a Tan Interior. :)
Let them know we want to be able to use our truck as a power source, in case of emergency. I live in LA and we have just dealt with a major emergency, I'm sure you've heard. It would have been great to be able to keep out basic electrical needs going by connecting to our EV!
That SUV is beautiful and the thoughtfulness of the UI is certainly appreciated!
Put my deposit in for the Traveler the day it was unveiled. Hope there aren’t major delays. I’ll be ready for this thing in 2 years!
2 years away? that's why the Chinese ev manufacturers are kicking everyone's butt, the Chinese would produce these in 12 months or less at this stage.
Buy Chinese then
Maybe for an already existing factory, this is a new company, they have no infrastructure.
@@otavongryf1379 I thought there were tariffs that and other onerous regulations that prevented Chinese EVs from being sold here? Although technically I do drive a Chinese EV, I have a Volvo c40 which is a geely cma platform car.
true... but the Chinese EVs i see are really impressive in some ways and HALF fucking baked in others. or maybe Chinese tastes just differ to mine... but the details on these scouts appeal for sure.
I don’t get how they will hit that price point stuff with that size of a battery
As a Gen Xer I love this design.We are the only generation to grow up in both an analog and digital world. From Tonka trucks to video games to personal computers and then cell phones. We grew up through it all and this reminds me of each of those times all wrapped in to one beautiful package. I remember the International Scout fondly. Both the interior and exterior of these new Scouts are near perfect. Rugged looking and off-road capable. I've always hated the Rivian headlights so when I saw these I was happy. These new Scouts seem to hit on everything that I and other Gen Xers want in an electric vehicle. Don't discount this demographic. We have disposable income and this is a player in my opinion. I call that interior "business casual". What a great mix of materials and colors. I especially like the center console and arm rest design. Unlike Kyle, I prefer the screens to be integrated into the dash and not sticking up above the dash. Might be an OCD thing on my part. I think raising the middle of the dash to match the geometry of the accessory mount might look good while being able to fit a taller screen in that space. I would also like smaller bezels to increase screen size. A matte or non-glare screen would also be preferable and aesthetically would align better with the non-glare physical components. I use a non-glare TCL NXTFRAME tv as a monitor in my home office and I will never go back to a screen with glare. The UX itself looks to be amazing. I'll be interested to see how the placement of the hvac vents work being under the screen. I think it might be genius as it might cool the driver and passenger down without drying out their eyes. As for the extended range gas motor, I'm all for it. Who doesn't love an off-road EV with a jerry can on the back? I bought a Tesla because it's fun to drive and I like the instant torque, speed, and safety. I don't own it because of the environment as the electricity for the chargers has to come from somewhere but that's another discussion. Having a gas motor or what basically sounds like a generator just to charge the batteries is a game changer in my opinion. No transmissions or other components to worry about as its function appears only to be charging. I say get rid of the frunks in all EVs and install gas powered motors with fuel tanks large enough to double the range to 700 miles or more. Carrying extra fuel for longer off-road camping trips would be a great way to charge back to full before ever leaving camp. I'm curious what the MPG equivalent will be on the motor ie how many miles of charge can 1 gallon of gas provide. I'll continue to watch videos and reviews leading up to the 2027 launch and if everything still seems positive I will buy one for sure. Bravo to the Scout team! I'm sad this is the year that I decided not to go to CES. By the way, if the Scout team is reading this, I can be bought. My consulting services are available :)
Funnily, lve gone from Rotring Ink pen in the late '70s as an Architect who predicted the AutoCad machine in late October '83 to now awaiting my CYBRTRK and 4 CYBERCABS ( 102 VW/ Porsche cars since '81 )
Wow what a great video. I know it is early but MAN this thing looks really great. Nice job.
These things are soooo cool....I love me a Bronco, K5 blazerish, scout truck/suv. I can REALLY enjoy your long videos. They have so much good content. I can't always enjoy long videos but yours......I can fully enjoy.
Direct buying from the automaker is a huge plus. Everyone hates the hours that you have to spend in a dealership buying a vehicle. I spent over 3 hours in a dealership when I bought a vehicle for cash with no financing needed!!!! In this day and age dealerships just waste too much of our precious time.
I like just going in, testing a car, and driving it home the same day. Not really comfortable spending $50k online without getting to see the physical vehicle for months.
Nicole is so knowledgeable. What an asset to Scout.
It’s her job to know…. Would you be saying the same if she was just a white male?
It’s her job to be knowledgeable …. If she was a white male would you be posting this?
17:35 "as infrastructure is today" but we're talking about a vehicle delivered in 2027
As a current Rivian R1T owner im hyped for my Scout Terra harvester. Put my reservation down as soon as it went live
I have heard on media in Germany that Rivian tore down a Audi Q6 and retro fitted computers and software and made a fully drivable vehicle in 3 months, which is mightily impressive. So, 2 years to finalize the Scout? Yeah, I think they can do that.
Scout, A right hand drive version, for New Zealand and Australia.
This is the vehicle we need down there.
I'll even put a hefty deposit down on one.
Put in a reservation for the BEV SUV. 800V and 350 miles is perfect for our needs
That's the nice thing about how Scout is offering choices. 350 miles gets you a long way off road. But those who tow and do overland have the EREV option. I'm curious how the take rate will change over the course of several years of production. A lot of pre-orders for the EREV over BEV. will EREV owners find that range anxiety is overblown for them and go for a BEV after a while? The pre-order take rate may also be explained by the fact the only other EREV of this type in America is the Ram, so those interested in EREVs are just jumping on the pre-order due to lack of choice
@deansmits006 unless one tows long distance or goes far out off grid, EREV won't be needed as charging infrastructure improves. I would expect BEV take rate to increase over the next few years.
I think we forget about VIA motors about 15 years ago who was at the time headed by bob lutz who was the father of the Chevy volt. They started the movement of an electric truck/van that was ran with a gasoline generator which ran at a constant RPM to power the battery/electric motor.
I see EREV’s as a child of that idea.
Looks great! Noticed that it's missing overhead grab handles to get inside. Also, the rear seat should have B-pillar vents. Agree with Kyle that the rear seatbacks look a bit low and would like to be able to drop the seat bottom down a bit more (as a tall guy). Hoping for heated rear seats and an electric pano roof shade, AND bidirectional V2H/V2G through the NACS port that will work with a Quasar 2, DCBel Ara, etc.
Vehicle to Home would be amazing for this. If you have a power outage you could keep the house running off the battery but if needed you still have the range extender.
Bench seats, range extender, I'm sold.
My 1972 Scout was a BEAST.
I drove it all over the Baja
In the 70s
This is exactly what I plan to do with the one I ordered. I have a buddy that put an order in as well and he's in for doing it with me.
I drive a 70s king cab long international harvester I drive while I worked on my uncle's farm... I loved that thing, I would love one of these
If they get this right, this is the first EV that I am sure I will buy. The large-enough battery and the range extender with this being intended for off-road use is brilliant. I’d love a Rivian, but I live in Minnesota and go to areas for offeoading with no fast charging and would be scared to do this with the Rivian. This would also be brilliant to have the range extender to also allow for off-grid and extended off-grid use, including for using the range extender to keep the battery powered when using electric appliances powered from the cars battery.
Good luck with an EV in cold-azzed Minnesota
Excellent update, thanks -- we had an International Harvester Travelall when I was a kid, and Scouts were always tres cool.
Also: 25 years as a UX designer, I can vouch for two things: it's VERY exciting to have a brand take UX integration so seriously, and Nicole is a rock star.
A friend of mine in my local Rivian club is a (former) employee. Rivian originally had plans for a full-size R1 truck and a LWV R1S, some rumored online to be called the R1X, you can find patents sketched out online. They told employees that development stopped to fully focus on R2 for scaling since money was getting tight and market conditions weren’t right for a more expensive model.
I like how VW is differentiating it with an EREV powertrain, it’s more rugged, a little larger, great design
They need to just quit charging so much for little electric motors and a some batteries. EVs are glorified golf carts and *should* cost far less than a standard car/truck with a ICE engine.
Agree on two fronts: 1) Direct buy from manufacturer is preferred and 2) Yeah aggressive schedule to produce. However, Volkswagen Porsche came up with a 918 hybrid electric and a very short order and sold them all out. I don’t know that you’ll get the same engineers or the same people working on it, but they put their mind to it, they can do some amazing stuff. Can’t say I would even consider a regular VW, but I would definitely have a lot of interest in this.
I miss having a bench seat in truck. Might be the next truck.
As someone with a bench seat in a truck, I miss having a comfortable seat with usable bolsters and arm rest
Agree, finally. But I hope it has a fold down arm rest. Can you believe Kyle wants to put a dog in the front seat!? Imagine the smell and the mud. Gross.
Would never buy a truck with bench seats - what is this 1972?
@miked.5962 I wish
Kyle - during your interview with Nicole she talked about merging the physical/tactile buttons with the digital interface. Scout should consider talking to dealers/integrators that work with lighting and/or audio/video smart systems. I sell/install/program smart-home lighting systems; the balance between the physical lighting-control buttons and the app/touch-screen interface is an important one when striking a balance for homeowners. Especially those homeowners who are new to smart-systems in their homes. A good integrator would be a good source for an outside-the-box view of merging physical and digital.
I love the styling but I wish there was an EV truck that was closer to the size of a Ford Maverick rather than a full size truck.
ngl, that front bench seat is what won me over
I see why Kyle says he wants a REX in this vehicle, but personally I would prefer it was EV only and all effort is placed on improving the charging network, especially for those with trailers. It is a cool car for sure, but I would never consider going back to an ICE car in any form. That's just me of course and I understand Kyle's perspective. All the best.
I'm glad they are offering it as an option and people can choose which version to get based on their own needs. Options are great for consumers! Personally, I would just get the battery only version....but that's all I need.
I agree with you completely
I'm with you 100%. Improve the charging infrastructure. Increase battery density and capacity. Offer the range extender as part of a tow package for those who need it.
I think that is the goal. Initially, EREV offerings will be popular, especially for those towing and over landing. But EV should become more popular as the charging infrastructure gets good, and people become less range anxious
Terra request - a rear camera that works with the tailgate down, either on the top of the gate like Super Duty or keep it in the bumper. I frequently haul long materials and lose the use of the camera when I have to put the tailgate down. Great video, can't wait for more.
This brand caught the perfect balance between old and new school. Absolutely perfect balance. This thing is gorgeous.
I don’t know that it’s perfect, but it’s clear that they are making a serious effort to. And that’s a good thing!
Love the direct to consumer sales with dedicated showrooms and the balance of tactile buttons with elegant software systems. In my next vehicle I want the intuitive navigation of menus so I can focus on driving safely
That Scout Traveller is seriously cool!
Having a concept with functioning software is pretty amazing.
I saw dealers are already suing Scout over the direct to consumer model so I hope Scout wins the lawsuit since I don’t like to deal with dealerships
It looks AMAZING!!! This is what I like!!!!!
One thing I want all EV startups to create is “zombie mode”. A super basic screen layout that covers only necessary vehicle functionality and never changes. Make it go offline entirely and make this the default mode after some sort of hard reset. That way if you go out of business we won’t be stuck with a bunch of obnoxious glitches. But you can market it as the mode for all post apocalypse scenarios 😂
Call it Prepper mode, not Zombie Mode. Zombies are so yesterday
@ love it, much more positive spin. I was thinking you make the car a zombie, but that’s a little bit of a downer. Luck favors the prepared and if you buy a car from a startup, you’ll need all the luck you can get
This is a good idea.
I was sold just with the design! I’m definitely sold now!
Burning question in my mind. Can the Harvester get the Scout home if there is a battery failure? @EdisonMotors is doing a good job with their Semi truck and making sure they can keep going even when there is a failure of some sort. I believe they had to go with a different motor controller or generator controller to get this to work. So if Scout Motors wants to have this redundancy, NOW would be the time to design this in.
No. There is no transmission and no mechanical means by which the harvester motor can drive the wheels.
As an owner of a 65 Scout and a Tesla, I am so excited! Scout it out!
My take at the end of the video….
Pluses… Bench seat (hopefully a 40-20-40 with flip down), dog,camp,sleep mode, no big ass screen going over the dash line, option of an extender (not sure I’ll do yet), an actual spare tire, appears they aren’t showing a low profile tire, the Scout like speedo,
Minus …. That they might be entertaining including internet influencers in development testing, that steering wheel, rear located charging port, appears to not be the easiest to get in and out of (that will be the biggest killer of a sale, too high a leg lift or cramped drivers seat for the taller,larger, differently abled).
My comments to the Scout team…. Looks like a great start! As a person that actually drove or owned from the original Scout with the 4cyl and full lockers to the Scout then Scout II, my hope is that the focus remains on the practicality and capability. Don’t go to low profile wheel and tires for looks! Don’t listen to crazy requests for software features that do not age well at the expense of features that are useful like intelligent ways to do vehicle pre or in-use conditioning of battery using full feature phone apps (including an option for Apple or Android CarPlay integration). Have an actual AM/FM radio. Have a mechanical key capability for lock and unlocking the vehicle and compartments (batteries fail keys don’t). Have a base interior that reflects those of us that have muddy dogs and haul things that may be slimy or wet and smelly (Ford nailed it with the Pro). And please please remember that there is a very broad diversity of body types and degrees of capabilities, so remember that all of the other features and capabilities of your vehicles will be moot if the potential buyer finds it difficult to get in or out of the vehicle (or the passengers that they may need to transport).
As a huge believer in backing into parking spaces I like the rear mounted charging port. Apple CarPlay was on the screen at 41:20 as one of the connectivity options, presumably Android Auto will also be there.
@ since these are vehicles that are far more likely to be pulling a trailer and very few CPOs are actually installing pull thru stalls, then I say bow to the reality that lacking pull thru stalls you will always be unhitching to use a back into stall model.
@@michaelwitkiewicz7052 Yup, we are excited about this explicitly to pull a travel trailer. The range extender should remove the need to recharge while hitched, just buy gasoline. Seems to me pulling in forward while hitched won't really work either since you'll block the driving lane. We are also on the preorder list for a Pebble Flow trailer. It can be remotely moved while unhitched, so it can be backed into a stall and charge both at the same time! Single axle, dual motor, so it can spin around the center of the axle to get into tight spots.
@ point is there are places that you can stick your nose in an end stall and not block traffic significantly with a trailer but I’ve never seen one where you can do the same with a cybertruck or Silverado port location. Except of course a drive thru which are relatively rare except at the very newest locations. I drive a Lightning and I do tow occasionally so I pay attention to this on my regular road trips route as I will be towing on this route later this year.
I reserved both as well with the range extenders. I just hope they can stick with their proposed prices so I can afford at least one of them! I learned how to drive in a 73 Scout II so no stranger to the brand and legacy. I absolutely love what the design team has created and wish them the best at getting this to market on time. Looking forward to the development as they progress!
I’m not an EV guy but this thing is peaking my interest contrary to my other comment
Fun fact: it’s spelled “piquing” in this case.
@ it could be peak as in high up lol
i was sold a month ago…made my reservation!
Love this and wish it was available now. I am a 46 year old car enthusiast (so maybe older than your average demographic), my first car was a 1973 Travellal (does it count as a first car if I was never able to drive it?) Later I owned a 73 Scout II that I loved despite it being broken in many ways. I love the idea of a E REV. This might be a Might be a replacement for my 1997 Land Cruiser 80 series (and maybe he Audi). A Rivian couldn't do it. I have to carry extra gas when I go offroad as I might be offroad for hundreds of miles and multiple days and pull an offroad teardrop trailer. I love the look, even better than a Bronco. One thing I can't agree on is I rarely want a truck to have a lower seat. One thing I don't like about most Toyotas....I have plenty of head room, but my 36" inseam feels constricted. Also despite being totally into tech, I want physical buttons, I hate having to go into menus to do anything.....maybe I am just not good at multi-tasking, but I can't drive and do that at the same time.
I hope for the direct sales model.
That’s their plan!
@@Jordan_Schiefer Have there been any updates on the dealership lawsuit from the VW dealers trying to stop Scout from selling directly? Would absolutely hate for such a cool revival to stifled by the cabal of middlemen....
EREVs are great for trucks. And cars. Excited for this one in a few years. China has dozens but we can't get those either.
The fact that an unreleased prototype vehicle has pet mode, but the Mach-E still doesn’t. It blows my mind.
Because Ferd
this thing is badass
I agree that controls need to be operable without more than a very brief glance. This allows the driver to stay aware of the driving environment while still making necessary changes to the cabin environment.
This is EXTREMELY important.
First time I’ve seen you guys. Liked. Subscribed. Reserved.
Crazy, when Kyle started talking about the amount of ECUs in "the early 2000s" my mind immediately went to the 2002 750, E65. The "Bangle Butt"
the design is so smart and beautiful
Very excited about this. The range extender is a game changer for a truck.
They nailed the styling and interior design. If Scout can keep the price down, I am considering one of each. Only time will tell.
Our next EV will be a Rivian because no dealership non sense. After our 500e fiasco never again. The Scout products are a bit overkill for our needs but so so awesome
Tesla is the only way to go, full use of the Charging network and the cars drive themselves like 95% of the time having a private Chauffeur is the ultimate luxury
@ charging network is sorta moot point where I live. If Rivian launches the R3 it be the next EV in the driveway.
@ the factory to build the R3 isn’t even built yet that care wont be in your driveway for 3-4 years IF Rivne doesnt go bankrupt by then as they are burning 1 billion in cash per quarter with no path to profitability with their current models
@ I’m not sure why you are arguing but okay? The more EV choice the better. I spend a considerable amount of time in Europe and get depressed with the offerings here in Canada..
scout wasn't really on my radar until watching this video - the range extender is very interesting.
We want continuous updates for new features and stability. Maintain positioning of buttons as best you can though. Do not fall for your customer's requests when it comes to software, that's how unwanted bloat happens.
This is a going to be a monster hit if VW/Rivian/Scout can pull it off like the concept seen here. In the suggestions department; i prefer my vehicles to have the essentials but I really prefer simplicity over having all the bells and whistles. Consider a "base" model that's really aimed at people like me who want an honest truck but hold the frills. There's a distinction to be made between having everything you need and nothing you don't and just plain decontented. No one wants to buy a vehicle and be reminded that they didn't get this or that feature. Anyway, this is one exciting truck and i can't wait to drive one!