PAYDAY 3: Is it a worthy successor?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Payday 3 has been out for a few days now and had a pretty rough go of it. Here's all of John's thoughts on the state of Payday 3.
0:00 Intro
0:21 The UI
4:20 The Music
5:05 The Progression
6:32 Gunplay and Stealth
7:15 The servers and always online
9:55 Outro
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Written, edited, and narrated by John / tuffcooke_
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As heartbreaking as it is, and as much as I love this game. The Online Only situation is the only MAJOR barrier here. I disagree with some of your points when It comes to the progression, however I feel like that is an aspect of the game that "Far enough, some of us will love and hate". However if we cannot even play the game. Then how are we supposed to make those comparisons with eachother? How are we supposed to discuss changes, fixes, and ideas. If we cannot even play the game that we love?
Great video as always bro
Thanks friend. That last point there really opened y eyes. We can't compare because nobody can play. It just isn't working, and I mean that in every way
This is a excellent review that genuinely gives a in depth perspective towards the negatives and positives of this game, tired of all the sponsored people making the game sound perfect with zero flaws when it’s filled with them and had one of the most embarrassing launches of this year.
Thanks a bunch. I hope it can smooth out from here
Really? I’ve seen nothing but negative lmao
@@ScumpIsMyDad the videos sponsored or from partners are all kinda trash, yes they talk about the server issues and no offline mode but they are super ignorant towards missing features and the game lacking in content, and it’s not even UA-camrs some of the biggest post on the subreddit is praising the game from people who have barely even played it, like yes the gameplay is good we all know that but gameplay alone can’t save a game.
It really feels rushed out of the door in so many ways.
There's so many areas where the game shines. I feel like it was less of a rushjob and more like somebody mandated major changes at the eleventh hour
Nice to hear someone finally admit the truth. The game is not horrible, but they took all of the good in Payday 2 and changed it for the worse. Some things you didn't mention, the favor system is terrible. Sometimes you can use them, sometimes you can't. Why am I buying favors from a vendor if I can't use them when I want. Some of the heists have horrible aspects. Like the getaway van in Gold & Sharke being parked in a private area right in front of cameras. A lot of the van positions for stealth missions are horrible and have no alternatives. The lack of weapon mods, like ammo upgrades to increase damage is insane. The hacking where you have to run around and stand in various circles is horrendous. The payouts are not all that great and the value amount increases for difficulty levels is not worth it. The only reason to do higher difficulties is to complete the stupid tasks. Overall it's a decent game with some improvements. Lures were a nice improvement, so was not needing body bags. The ability to jack key cards from people is also an improvement. The lack of skills to increase hacking speed is unfortunate as well.
Great review! Radio silence and lies from Overkill is the exact reason I haven’t bough the game myself. The last years of development ruined my perception of Overkill and the Payday series as a whole. The blaring issues surround the servers, ui and progression is turning me further away from the game. I don’t think I’ll be able to sink in enough hours to even reach the endgame… not that I’d even like to get there, the armour and skill system is lacking compared to Payday 2. Build variety isn’t nearly as good and overkill doesn’t suffice as an endgame difficulty compared to DW/DSOD.
Entirely fair to not want to jump in when the game is like this right now
At 5:50 when you mention C-Stakcs there is something u have gotten wrong. The C-Stacks arent a limited amount u can buy each week, the checkmarks you see is the amount of times they will go up in price. 1 C-Stack maxes out at 1million so for every 1 you want to buy its gonna cost you 1million but you can buy as many as you want. 5 C-Stakcs ive been told caps out at 4 Million and ive been told 10 caps at 9million wich dosent realy make sense since then 5 is the bets option. Just wanted to point it out but i agree that C-Stacks inst that good of a system
Ah my mistake. I was under the impression that once you bought at max price (with all the checkmarks filled) you could not purchase more that week. Thank you very much for the info!
Heist selection should be on a map like PD2 !
personally i would say at its current state(MM issues aside) No, but it can be, they have a lot of work ahead of them and plenty of opportunities to hinder themselves(upcoming MTX stuff)
i also cant help but think the devs took major inspiration from Call Of Duty MW2019 to an unhealthy degree
I don't hate the bars :(
You're a bar
I wish they made a hybrid with numbers on the bars. I also don't hate them, but so many people prefer the numbers, so it's beyond me why overkill didn't just add it as an option. Also, hey RedArcher!
Quick answer: No
good ass video. i dont care about payday in the slightest but you have a really engaging way of serving information and it kept me around until the end
Getting somebody who doesn't care about the topic to sit all the way through might be the highest praise I've ever received as an editor. Thank you so much!
Bravo Starbreeze.
Tbh you only realize some of this stuff later in game like the armor thing which is completely bs and wtf are these bars horrible also I'm leveling up so slow if they want me to complete challenges they should add where I can see challenges within a heist and let me pin certain challenges to show on the side of my screen like sliding 842/1000 meters and yk it goes up as you do it.
Yeah, it takes way too long to figure out some of this "secret" info. I was already leveled into my 50's before I figured out the armor thing. It just doesn't say anything
The game could've also had pre-planning and I think Payday 2's UI is better (and the hud is more unique ofc since I forgot to mention that in my other comment), but I still do love the game! Just wish it grows to be on par or surpass Payday 2 before like Febuary or March
I agree with all of your points! Honestly, I do love the game but the UI needs to be better and as for progression, it's fine but it is annoying to constantly check challenges
As for matchmaking, defo needs to be better
Still gonna play it often, but Payday 3 still has a long way to go, but hopefully surpasses Payday 2 in maybe half a year at most, if not, maybe a year
idk if it’s js me but ads-ing in this game feels so jittery and not smooth at all
Nice review. I have to agree with all you said. I bought the base game on official release day and only played it twice because it's always online and server issues have been constant. I've tried to refund it but because I downloaded it and played it Sony said F-off dude. It's a really poorly designed game and I'm ready to quit even before I really started. In a few years PD3 will most likely worth playing. This is the sad state of gaming today with few exceptions.
I wish they made it a free-to-play, that way refunding wouldn't be an issue and always online and microtransactions would somewhat make sense
Honestly even if the game was good I would still stay far away. The always online no matter how you play, even for solo is nonsensical. Not to mention being forced to register to a service that has nothing to do with anything and only functions as a way to get small goodies as of now. Those freebies must be amazing as again, *forced* to register to even play even if you opt out of anything crossplay or save related. Oh and for Starbreeze to sell your personal data used to sign up for 3rd parties which they even admit to in their privacy policy.
Good review though.
Had a gut feeling not to pre-order n was right
Glad you dodged the bullet, frustrated there was a bullet to be dodged
@@RustyChains I'm glad i only played the second beta, and didn't pre-order
game cool when it works smh it been broken asf on ps5
PS5 players somehow got the short end of the stick when the stick was already broken and on fire. Feel for you
🚮paday3🚮 fund me for an unfinished project...
What a goofy way of deciding on a game's quality. This gameplay and the core loop is fun and satisfying and the heists are good, but the UI sucks and the progression is questionable. Also it's always online. So... it's not a good successor? In what way does PD2 even compete with the gameplay anymore? I thought that was the point of games, to play the game. In that case, what would even make PD3 a worthy successor? Having a perfect launch? Like PD2 didn't have one of the most embarassing and lacklustre launches just as well? You could make this exact same video about PD2 on release and it would have been less laughable because at that point we didn't exactly have a frame of reference for the product, but at this point, we've already seen this song and dance before. PD2 on release was terrible, but nobody was playing it because it was basically an Indie game at that point, so nobody made a big stink about that game's horrible grindy progression on release or it's stupid random difficulty/heist selection, not to mention the fact that PD2 had no real good heists or any good skill tree to even try and pretend it was great. The only upside was that PD2 on launch had Offline Only, which sure, definitely don't see why PD3 couldn't have launched with it. But again, I hardly see how bad servers on launch somehow make the game bad.
This review is just tinted with the stench of salt from a poor first impression, and that's completely unacceptable for what is supposed to be a proper review of the product. If you're just making a video where you're sharing how you dislike that PD3 is this, this and this from a first-time player standpoint, sure, we can argue freely about the new player experience, because Im sure that depending on when people are able to play it they might have had a different experience. It's not like I don't understand why poor servers on launch can piss some people off. But the issue isn't that you're making a video talking about how PD3's servers are horrible. The issue is you're making a video about how PD3 is actually bad and stinky no good, and trying to magic some excuses into existence as to why PD3 is bad, inflating what is ultimately minor problems in the big picture of the game's lifespan, into these huge horrible gamebreaking bugs and problems.
Poor video, poor review.