Im not a plumber but I can do plumbing if i have to. I have a friend who is disabled and on a very small fixed income,so cant afford to hire a plumber. This tool would have come in so handy for me the other day when I had to pull the toilet for her and replace a broken flange. I did all kinds of "rigging" to make the new one flush and secure. Now when I have to do it again (and I will) I know there is a tool to make it possible. Great invention!!!
So I made one of these and it is great. Had to do a little modifying to make it work and when your cutting it is important you stay as straight as you can. He is right about the drill, you won't want to use a cordless. Great idea and I thank you.
I am a CPA and in the topic of plumbing, definitely not a professional. I ignored the warnings and bought one of these today. I think my electric drill is underpowered so it took me longer than 5 minutes. It worked like a champ.. New flange is installed and I am feeling pretty good about it. Not really sure what a plumber would have charged but I didn't want to constrict the 3" pipe and I felt sure that is what one would do.
Lol either he gave in to the pressure or he was lying the whole time and knew that if he said no to the public that we would go looking for it. Makes you think 🤔
Gotta say, seems if you tilt drill a little you would gouge outer diameter of 3 " pipe which makes for a loose fit on the new flange . Have remover a lot of flanges by carefully sawing part way thru and using a big flat screw driver or pry bar inserted into the cut ans breaking away old flange with no damage to pipe.
Obviously you're a couple of real high end plumbers. A guy helps you out and you criticize. You DO NOT need a license to change a floor flange. Now go lay down next to your bowl! And that's a compliment
@@scotthsmith8635 A lot of people wonder "since humans have been walking upright for over 2 million years - how did humans advance so much, so quickly, over the last 150 years?" or equivalently "why were humans so stupid, for so long?" The answer is here, in those replies. It is human nature to 1) acquire an advantage over others 2) never voluntarily surrender that advantage 3) keep the advantage secret I think humans learned, by accident, that if their neighbors had at least as much knowledge as they did, they could help each other out. But for most of human history, (1), (2) and (3) were like a religion. And for some people, they still are a religion. "I advance myself if other people are more ignorant than I am" No, you endanger yourself, because ignorant people are not reliable and not stable. The original idea of free public schools in the U.S. is one of the key reasons our country became the most successful and productive in human history. Knowledge was freely shared. Keeping other people in ignorance is a huge mistake.
Terry Teague ....Good point, I just removed one the old fashion way with minimum damage to the pipe which is encased in a cement floor. I replaced the flange with one with a longer connection. It was 1" longer than the regular flange. Turned out great.
I am trying to remove one from 4" pvc with inside fitting. Got the flange off, but the fitting part is so well glued I cannot get it to separate from the pipe, in spite of cutting many slices into it. What now?
if its a 4" pipe with an inside glue flange, just removed the internal pieces and then get a regular flange and glue it to the outside of the pipe, make room around the area accordingly etc
@7:20 you can see that the bit took a LOT of material off of the outside diameter of the pipe in a very undesirable manner. It thinned the walls of the pipe so much I'm questioning the design of this tool?!
where can i buy that tool i'm in a mess with my rv please let me know I will even pay for over nighting the frieght thank i can;t believe nobody has come up with somthing like this before
So, it's a 3" oatey test plug with a hollow threaded rod instead of the screw and wingnut, and a 3" holesaw with an equal size smooth rod to fit the inside of the threaded rod instead of using a drill bit. Pretty sure you can make this yourself for $10.
I need something for inside of the elbow the up stack is going into. The up stack is male threaded at top end. With about 3 1/2" from the top of the threads to the elbow. Trying to find a new toilet flange with female threads is almost impossible. I just want to drill out the existing riser and replace with a non threaded end. Do you have such a tool?
Score/cut the flange and replace with an inside flange. You don't need to remove the stub of the old flange since you are going inside the pipe. Now, if you need to replace an inside flange then you got an issue.
Great invention. Can't understand why not sell to anyone in need of it. Too bad. Good luck, I guess... EDIT: You can go to the Pipeparana website and buy their similar product no matter what profession you are.
@@lesmach6495 Except, the guide tube adapted to the drain plug to keep everything square for shaky guys like me. May have to modify (Drill out) the drain plug to accept the outside threaded tube. Drain plugs usually have a solid bolt.
This is really cool. I don’t think that style drill would be well suited if the pipe was in a floor because the handle would probably hit the floor. I’d like to see it done with a regular corded drill. And even using a cordless one just to see what he’s talking about.
You can turn the head of the drill 180 degrees so the handle won’t be in the way. Tools can be dangerous in inexperienced hands So please be careful when working with power tools. But you can use a powerful drill with low revs.
He can also remove the angle part of the drill and use it as a regular drill, removing the chuck from the angled part to place at the front of the drill. So this drill offers 3 speeds. 400 rpm 900 rpm and 600 rpm. so choose your speed...
Is there any similar tool that will remove an inside toilet flange fitting from a 4" pvc pipe? Mine appears to be primed and glued so well that I cannot even see where the two come together. I already removed the flange part of the fitting, hoping that I could section the rest of the fitting and coax it off. But no way.
Yes use a 4”. This is not new,, he didn’t invent this.. I’ve been doing this since 1983 when I started plumbing… an old timer showed us… every plumber knows this.. it’s a great technique…. But he did t invent it
Here's the conversation: ED: "We've got to pull off an old 3" toilet flange" AL: "Raze the home then. Bulldoze it. We want to scrap the whole deal and start over. We need to impress this homeowner." ED: "Already have the site preparation guys lined up - they arrive tomorrow with a Caterpillar bulldozer." AL: "Did you pull a permit for the house structure knock-down?" ED: "I pulled a plumbing permit for a new sewer connection" AL: "Haw haw, dang you're smart Ed" ED: "Will the home owner be surprised?" AL: "I sure as heck hope so" .
This guy is doing a great job the only problem is the first piece that he tightened down, in real life there wouldn't be anything to tightened it down to in a real drain. Or am I wrong?
Fuckin genius!! I think the reason he doesn’t sell to the general public because of liability by only selling the license plumber or liability falls on them if they get hurt or if they fuck it up and drill at the wrong angle have to rip out the floor in the ceiling but this IS A GENIUS TOOL!
It is easier, just cut it carefully firs with a saw or saw saw then chip it out with a screw driver, or heat cut with a sharp knife then pull it out with a pair of pliers and you're done
Just to be more specific on the last question, my flange is glued to a street 90. Will it work for that? If you mentioned it in the video and I missed it, I apologize.
1)what I would do is chip around the flange first 3'' to 4'' carefully, not breaking the fitting then just it heat it with heat gun , then sand it and glue the new flange 2) the easiest would be just fix the ring around it with a stainless repair ring and bolt it down
This is a Job For a Professional Plummer not for an Average person because how much is the tool and who is going to Loan you an expensive drill like that one also ? Is Not easy by any means .
I've Jerry rigged something similar to this where I used the same type of plug as a guide for my pilot bit to enlarge a hole around a pipe so that I could get a fitting onto the pipe. Great design. Would a 1/4" pilot bit fit into the guide for this type of application?
He's demonstrating for a 3" sch 40 pipe and 4x3 over the pipe flange removal so the 40096 has been around for a while especially for 4" cast iron. Pipeparana is another tool that was slightly better marketed than this guy's. He's either given up or got bought out or just people can tell how it's made.
The flange-off is available through Locke Plumbing Supply in 5 southern states. If you do not live in one of these states then you can get one shipped to you by calling Woods Plumbing at 405-942-2803.
Wouldn’t this leave the remaining pipe short? The three inches or so you drilled out of the flange? I guess it’s more of a statement. “This would leave you about 3” below where your new flange will sit”
I'm in the same boat. Got the flange off cannot even chisel out the flange fitting from the pipe. They were chemically welded. How did you finally get yours done?
Im not a plumber but I can do plumbing if i have to. I have a friend who is disabled and on a very small fixed income,so cant afford to hire a plumber. This tool would have come in so handy for me the other day when I had to pull the toilet for her and replace a broken flange. I did all kinds of "rigging" to make the new one flush and secure. Now when I have to do it again (and I will) I know there is a tool to make it possible. Great invention!!!
I need one
Good Job Dude you fixed the biggest problem with plastic drain pipes
So I made one of these and it is great. Had to do a little modifying to make it work and when your cutting it is important you stay as straight as you can. He is right about the drill, you won't want to use a cordless. Great idea and I thank you.
What size hole saw did you use?
Great video about flange off demonstration. We learned another plumbing tips from you. Thanks for sharing woodsplumbing!
Excellent video! One of the most articulately explaned videos i've seen!~
I am a CPA and in the topic of plumbing, definitely not a professional. I ignored the warnings and bought one of these today. I think my electric drill is underpowered so it took me longer than 5 minutes. It worked like a champ.. New flange is installed and I am feeling pretty good about it. Not really sure what a plumber would have charged but I didn't want to constrict the 3" pipe and I felt sure that is what one would do.
Ted Norton any real plumber is not going to restrict the flow any real plumber would remove the flange and install a new one
Wow, Marketing genius. i am not going to sell online, to the public.
Found this on Amazon. LoL
Lol either he gave in to the pressure or he was lying the whole time and knew that if he said no to the public that we would go looking for it. Makes you think 🤔
I mean this video is like 12 years old now so..
I have used this. It saved me times. Used Different job sites. Work great 👍. 😊
It's obvious that this guy's never done this in real life, the drill handle would hit the floor before the bit got through.
😆 I was thinking the same thing and it didn't take me long to find it in the comments. Lmao!!!🤣👍👍
I was thinking same
Very clever tool. Simple and quite effective. Congrats, Dennis!
Gotta say, seems if you tilt drill a little you would gouge outer diameter of 3 " pipe which makes for a loose fit on the new flange . Have remover a lot of flanges by carefully sawing part way thru and using a big flat screw driver or pry bar inserted into the cut ans breaking away old flange with no damage to pipe.
Nice video and presentation.
In real operation do watch out for interference between the tool handle and the toilet floor.
Hello Ted,
I am glad that it worked well for you, tell your friends!
I made my own. Thanks for the instructions. It's a dick move to sell to "non licensed" people.
thats what im saying lol what a douche bag
Obviously you're a couple of real high end plumbers. A guy helps you out and you criticize. You DO NOT need a license to change a floor flange. Now go lay down next to your bowl! And that's a compliment
@@scotthsmith8635 A lot of people wonder "since humans have been walking upright for over 2 million years - how did humans advance so much, so quickly, over the last 150 years?" or equivalently "why were humans so stupid, for so long?"
The answer is here, in those replies.
It is human nature to
1) acquire an advantage over others
2) never voluntarily surrender that advantage
3) keep the advantage secret
I think humans learned, by accident, that if their neighbors had at least as much knowledge as they did, they could help each other out.
But for most of human history, (1), (2) and (3) were like a religion.
And for some people, they still are a religion.
"I advance myself if other people are more ignorant than I am"
No, you endanger yourself, because ignorant people are not reliable and not stable.
The original idea of free public schools in the U.S. is one of the key reasons our country became the most successful and productive in human history. Knowledge was freely shared.
Keeping other people in ignorance is a huge mistake.
How about one for 4" pvc with an inside flange. That style is way more common in my neck of the woods. Rarely come across an outside wc flange.
Terry Teague ....Good point, I just removed one the old fashion way with minimum damage to the pipe which is encased in a cement floor. I replaced the flange with one with a longer connection. It was 1" longer than the regular flange. Turned out great.
I am trying to remove one from 4" pvc with inside fitting. Got the flange off, but the fitting part is so well glued I cannot get it to separate from the pipe, in spite of cutting many slices into it. What now?
if its a 4" pipe with an inside glue flange, just removed the internal pieces and then get a regular flange and glue it to the outside of the pipe, make room around the area accordingly etc
Rector seal make a pipe schredder works 1000 times better 1 1/2 2 , 3 ,4 inch works great
The nation that controls flanges, rules the world
Pretty cool setup actually! Would have been cool if you set up a webpage for people buy it from you. Thanks for making the vid anyways
Great demostration.
Instructions unclear. I can hear Chinese music from my toilet now .
@7:20 you can see that the bit took a LOT of material off of the outside diameter of the pipe in a very undesirable manner. It thinned the walls of the pipe so much I'm questioning the design of this tool?!
where can i buy that tool i'm in a mess with my rv please let me know I will even pay for over nighting the frieght thank i can;t believe nobody has come up with somthing like this before
Where can I buy one of these. I need it quickly for a job I'm stuck on. Thanks, Tom
So, it's a 3" oatey test plug with a hollow threaded rod instead of the screw and wingnut, and a 3" holesaw with an equal size smooth rod to fit the inside of the threaded rod instead of using a drill bit. Pretty sure you can make this yourself for $10.
Ok pal
Well if it's not easy to buy then you may as well just build it yourself 🤷♂️
You can and every plumber I work with has been doing this since the beginning of plumbing
@@drainmonkeys385 Figured as much.
Does it come in different sizes to cut out fitting glued inside as well? Cameraman should lube tripod jeez
Will a 4 and a quarter cookie cutter work as well??
what ??? Hello !! I can't hear you
My flange is on a street 90. Will your tool work on those. There is just not a lot of room to install the guide due to the bend of the 90.
Brilliant my friend!
I need something for inside of the elbow the up stack is going into. The up stack is male threaded at top end. With about 3 1/2" from the top of the threads to the elbow. Trying to find a new toilet flange with female threads is almost impossible. I just want to drill out the existing riser and replace with a non threaded end. Do you have such a tool?
I use stainless flange repair rings. Bolt to floor through old flange and good to go.
If you want to sell your product, you should tell us how to purchase it. So, where can I get this??
Amazon but they don't have them in stock and won't any time soon
Wow ! Great Product , Even Better Demo !
Score/cut the flange and replace with an inside flange. You don't need to remove the stub of the old flange since you are going inside the pipe. Now, if you need to replace an inside flange then you got an issue.
epia125 then use flange ring
Thank you so much for this great idea.
What if flange glues inside of 4inch pipe in the cement floor?
Great invention. Can't understand why not sell to anyone in need of it. Too bad. Good luck, I guess...
EDIT: You can go to the Pipeparana website and buy their similar product no matter what profession you are.
+Denny Martin It looks like it is just a floor drain plug and hole saw with a solid rod instead of a drill bit.
I will check out your website.
Denny Martin is it Pipeparana.com?
@@lesmach6495 Except, the guide tube adapted to the drain plug to keep everything square for shaky guys like me. May have to modify (Drill out) the drain plug to accept the outside threaded tube. Drain plugs usually have a solid bolt.
When you have an outside flange you can cut it flush with the floor and then install a 4 by 3 inside of that 4-inch pipe
And just do what he said at the beginning about sawing it in slices and chiseling it. I did one like that today in half the time he did his.
Great invention. Oops, the new flange was bigger than the waste pipe. Isn't that like holding a funnel upside down? Wouldn't that lip catch debris?
What if the flange sit inside the main pipe??
This is really cool. I don’t think that style drill would be well suited if the pipe was in a floor because the handle would probably hit the floor. I’d like to see it done with a regular corded drill. And even using a cordless one just to see what he’s talking about.
You can turn the head of the drill 180 degrees so the handle won’t be in the way. Tools can be dangerous in inexperienced hands So please be careful when working with power tools. But you can use a powerful drill with low revs.
@@pasqualeparente9776I don’t know of too many techs that would use that drill to ream out a flange located in a floor
He can also remove the angle part of the drill and use it as a regular drill, removing the chuck from the angled part to place at the front of the drill. So this drill offers 3 speeds. 400 rpm 900 rpm and 600 rpm. so choose your speed...
How do i get one ?.
Is there any similar tool that will remove an inside toilet flange fitting from a 4" pvc pipe? Mine appears to be primed and glued so well that I cannot even see where the two come together. I already removed the flange part of the fitting, hoping that I could section the rest of the fitting and coax it off. But no way.
use a heat gun
Yes use a 4”. This is not new,, he didn’t invent this.. I’ve been doing this since 1983 when I started plumbing… an old timer showed us… every plumber knows this.. it’s a great technique…. But he did t invent it
He is using an old-style pipe plug as a guide.
I would just tear out the floor and build a new house around it
Man ur genius
Here's the conversation:
ED: "We've got to pull off an old 3" toilet flange"
AL: "Raze the home then. Bulldoze it. We want to scrap the whole deal and start over. We need to impress this homeowner."
ED: "Already have the site preparation guys lined up - they arrive tomorrow with a Caterpillar bulldozer."
AL: "Did you pull a permit for the house structure knock-down?"
ED: "I pulled a plumbing permit for a new sewer connection"
AL: "Haw haw, dang you're smart Ed"
ED: "Will the home owner be surprised?"
AL: "I sure as heck hope so"
.
Cool!......Now do a video on how to fix a noisy tripod!
but if flange is glued inside pipe is there one A tool for that? flange on out side not to bad to fix,
There are videos, but you risk breaking the pipe.
Did you record this on the side of the road? I can hear trafic going by..what the heck?
Ah I see, its in a car port. Neat tool. May have to grab one
This guy is doing a great job the only problem is the first piece that he tightened down, in real life there wouldn't be anything to tightened it down to in a real drain. Or am I wrong?
That 1st piece looks like a modified plug. As one tightens the center nut a rubber gasket swells.
You don't need this crap... Just a standard 3" or 4" hole saw and a floor drain plug you can make your own tool...
Cherne plug
Just replace the centering drill bit with a 1/4" rod to keep from oval'ing the drain plug. Been doing this for years.
Sam Pull can you email me pics of your device? I assume all parts can be got at Home Depot? (Appletekk@telus.net)
Fuckin genius!! I think the reason he doesn’t sell to the general public because of liability by only selling the license plumber or liability falls on them if they get hurt or if they fuck it up and drill at the wrong angle have to rip out the floor in the ceiling but this IS A GENIUS TOOL!
What do you do if the flange fits INSIDE the pipe?? Will this cut through the flange body???
It is easier, just cut it carefully firs with a saw or saw saw then chip it out with a screw driver, or heat cut with a sharp knife then pull it out with a pair of pliers and you're done
Yes, it does. It is pretty much the same procedure, use heat gun cut with a sharp knife then you start peeling it with a pair of pliers
Pretty cool tool. You could use it on other 3" fittings too right?
fiendwithout
where can I get tool at ??
Center device= 3" expansion plug
Lol I said the same thing
...and pretty sure that the nut and "centering guide" is from a lamp.
Is the inside piece a common part?
So it is manufactured but it is not allowed to be sold to the public.
Nice marketing. Guess I will just make my own if you will not sell one to me.
crosstimbers2
I just made one too. That was a dick move to not sell to the public.
crosstimbers2 Cause then its copyright infringement.
It's not copyright infringement to make your own product, but it MIGHT be if you sold it commercially.
Are you talking about Father Flanagan's Boys Town
Mikey Mike … Same comment over and over... I think you made your point... No very clever, but obviously thrills you.
I wonder how this would work if house is on slab with this same flange.. ? Concrete probably would eat up the whole-saw
Where do you get this
You lost me when you started your video with how difficult it will be to buy your tool, so I bailed!!!
you are right go bankrupt not sailing it
thats awesome did you ever end up getting this on the market
Great explanation.
How can I get that
Just to be more specific on the last question, my flange is glued to a street 90. Will it work for that? If you mentioned it in the video and I missed it, I apologize.
1)what I would do is chip around the flange first 3'' to 4'' carefully, not breaking the fitting then just it heat it with heat gun , then sand it and glue the new flange
2) the easiest would be just fix the ring around it with a stainless repair ring and bolt it down
How do I get 1 or 2 ?
what whole sale house sells that item? great idea, i'd like to procure one.
Where can I get the tool at I'm In Illinois
Nice good. I could most definitely use this tool
This is a Job For a Professional Plummer not for an Average person because how much is the tool and who is going to Loan you an expensive drill like that one also ? Is Not easy by any means .
Truly informative, great tool, great demonstration, great everything
Where can you buy one?
I've Jerry rigged something similar to this where I used the same type of plug as a guide for my pilot bit to enlarge a hole around a pipe so that I could get a fitting onto the pipe. Great design. Would a 1/4" pilot bit fit into the guide for this type of application?
Just bought one off Amazon to drill out the old broken flange. It should do the trick nicely once it arrives.
I just bought one too. Hopefully this does the trick...I have two toilets to work on!
Thanks for the video.
I'm sorry, the car went by and I couldn't here you, Flange who?
company opened in 1963 and already in forth generation? geez!
Ez-Flo 40096 4" Push-In Repair Flange took this guy out of business
He's demonstrating for a 3" sch 40 pipe and 4x3 over the pipe flange removal so the 40096 has been around for a while especially for 4" cast iron. Pipeparana is another tool that was slightly better marketed than this guy's. He's either given up or got bought out or just people can tell how it's made.
4" yet!?
I wish I had seen this before I reked what I'm working on
Oh yeah baby. Great tool keep it simple/stupid.
The flange-off is available through Locke Plumbing Supply in 5 southern states. If you do not live in one of these states then you can get one shipped to you by calling Woods Plumbing at 405-942-2803.
Clever invention
Too bad I can't buy this at Lowes
I need them in 3 an 4 inch
Wouldn’t this leave the remaining pipe short? The three inches or so you drilled out of the flange? I guess it’s more of a statement. “This would leave you about 3” below where your new flange will sit”
Obviously u no watchy the whole video..
I can only find it for $100 and its definitely not worth it for that price. Literally takes me 10 minutes to just notch out a flange.
wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just use a rotozip to cut inside the pipe all the way around? looks like a needless product to me.
I like that little gadget
Good call on not making that available to the Gen Pop!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you should fire your advisors!...........
Too bad it wasn't available to help out homeowners instead of plumbers but hey gotta protect your gig I guess
To make a video like this and not give a source for the tool doesn't make sense.
What the hell was that sound at 6:48?
I need this in my life
Well done!
all it is is a 3" gripper and a whole saw bit clearly those two things are not his invention to use
UA-cam has turned into nothing but infomercials. This is a perfect example.
Great idea!
Good luck using a right angle drill unless you flange is 8" off the floor. Want to make real money sell on the web, wholesalers are to stupid.
If you heat it with a hairdryer it will separate.
Dream on, this will not work!!
I'm in the same boat. Got the flange off cannot even chisel out the flange fitting from the pipe. They were chemically welded. How did you finally get yours done?
Cool tool maybe for professional plumbers but, average Joe not so much.
Takes guess work out 👍🏿