I have three Harleys. One is a 94 XL 1200 I've done some things to. When I'm dead and gone someone can have it. ( Newest one is a 2022 Street Bob. Love it!)
Thank you! Yeah I was looking for something like that when I was searching for my first bike but there weren't any. So I decided to fill the void for all my reviews. Thanks again!
Huge softail standard fan. I felt your review was really good. Only items I would add is seat and maybe a small windshield. I just think the regular package, for me, is perfect. Polished engine pieces, I like the exhaust and the air cleaner too. Such a clean design. Thank you for the exposure to this cool bike.
I live in the NYC area and I just got mine and I will say. I love it, it rides smooth and has great speed at 3rd gear. It is definitely worth it, if you're a new rider and new to the Harley family, I say go for it.
Thank you for such kind words! Yeah it takes a lot of try to remember the stats and try to recite them while concentrating on how to ride this bike for the first time haha 😂 But as long as my viewers are enjoying and benefiting from them, I will continue to make em!
Tubeless tires is where it's at. Plug the tire, on the bike, have an electric air pump in your bags, and your on your way again, down the road. Never happen with a tubed bike.
Worked for Harley Davidson a lot of years. I watched the TC motor from start to finish. They had several serious issues that took several years to iron out. Never cared for them. Harley has a definite winner with the M8. I bought a 2022 Street Bob. No regrets!
@@KSMotoCafe well, almost. A two brothers exaust replace the paper filter with a K&N, and Harley's "warranty approved" tune, then ride the sh.,tuffing outta the bike.
Thank you so much~~! Your review very helpful, So I ride my 2022 standard with a smile day by day ~~😃 I put HD windshield, sundowner 2up seat, sissy bar, engine guard ...etc I'm very satisfied with that~~
IMO you do the best reviews. As a new rider myself looking at Harley’s your videos have been great. Hope your channel continues to grow you deserve it !
I agree. I listen to all of them pertaining to my current purchase. New owner of a 2022 Street Bob. This guy pretty much has his shit together. Thanks. 🇺🇸⚔️🍕🍺👍👍
IMO, any M8 bike is a massive, MASSIVE, upgrade from a traditional sportster. I haven’t ridden the standard but I have ridden several other softails and own a Low Rider S which I traded my iron 883 for. The very first time I got on a softail (slim 107) it was a shock to the senses. I knew right then I was trading in my beloved sportster for one of these softails with that M8 engine. Settled on the last ‘21 Low Rider S left on the lot. I absolutely dig that standard. Beautiful bike in every single way. I prefer it to the street bob even with the bigger engine. The 107 is no slouch by any means!
I just rode a Softail slim yesterday. Definitely feel more torque on that than my 1200 Sporty. But not crazy difference. Is it worth trading in my Sporty for it? Nope. But I'd like to have one. I'll probably just buy a used one in few years. What I don't like is the small tank. My XL1200C has a full gallon more gas storage!
@@teslaedison6236 My son has a XL1200C, a ‘96 model. Beautiful bike and lots of fun. Lightweight bike with dual front discs on his. He’s just the opposite. While he absolutely loves his 1200….he’d trade it in for a softail standard in a heartbeat if his credit was good enough.
@@teslaedison6236 there’s a pretty big power difference and having that 6th gear is a game changer especially if you ride on the freeway a lot like I do. As for the tank you still waste more gas on a sportster cus the rmps are running higher. You just don’t know
Had my 2020 about 8 months. Dean-Speed slipons, S&S mini teardrop, fwd controls, led turn signals, red vans grips, custom seat and red plug wires so far. Best bike I have had so far.
I rode both the Street bob and the standard. I couldn't tell the difference in the power-both had plenty to spare. Been on hogs for 40+ years but I am in no way a rider to take advantage of the extra 7 cubes. A better, heavy handed rider might be able to. Power, torque, looks and handling-this bike is like butter. Nice review mate-Thanks.
That was a really good review. The only thing that brings this bike down for me is the small gas tank. I really wish HD would've kept the bigger gas tanks when they made the new Softail line. And now that they've gotten rid of the Sportglide and regular Low Rider, there are even fewer options for a 5-gallon tank :(
@@KSMotoCafe It still is the full package, if you can find a 2018 -2021 Sport Glide, used. Start looking!!! They are out there. I own a 2018, 20k miles on it, still stock, and I wouldn't change anything on this motor, it does everything just perfect, right from the factory, even with the stock 2 into 1 exhaust system.
I bought a 21 street bob about 5 months ago and absolutely love it. I looked at both the standard and the street bob. I liked the 114 engine and the blacked out look better than the chrome. Not that the chrome was bad or the 107 engine seemed lacking to me at all. Both engines have plenty of power. Luckily I was able to fit the slightly more expensive street bob into my budget. If I couldn't I still would have been very happy with the softail standard. Great video! I subscribed. Maybe you can do a street bob in the future?
Thanks for the support Jacob and sharing your journey to the Street Bob 114! I was actually lined up to review the Street Bob on that day but it was sold right when I got there. So they offered me to test the Standard and the Stage 1 Standard instead. Now only the Street Bob and LRS remains to complete my softail reviews but they all seem to sell too quickly!
@@KSMotoCafe the street bob and standard to me have the best value in the softail line up. I love the classic look and luckily the street bob was at the top of my budget and was able to get 1. Honestly out of all the softails it probably would be the bike I would have picked regardless if I could afford I higher priced bike. The only other 2 softails I really liked were the deluxe and the breakout which unfortunately they discontinued in the U.S markets. If they still made either of those bikes last year I might have picked up some more overtime to get the deluxe or breakout! Really enjoy that classic look. The street bob and standard are just larger sporsters IMO. I think if you test ride a street bob 114 you might take it home.
I was looking for either the street bob or the Softail std. The 114 vs the 107 was not in question. Both have great usable power. I do prefer the chrome and spoked wheels. It all came down to the best deal, mileage and how much someone had fiddled with it. For a bike that boasts the MSRP under 14k, I certainly couldn't find one new or used at the local dealerships. High teens for the standard and low 20s for the bob. I figured I saved about 7-8k buying private. 102 miles and the guy knew he made a mid life crisis mistake. He has ridden it twice. Home from the dealership and once to the post office. I watched it on CL and he dropped the price. I was so excited with the bike and the price I didn't insult him by beating him down more. I've had several sporties, shovels and Evo s since the early 80s and this is definitely my favorite. Power, looks and handles like a dream. Love every time I fire it up. Got a custom seat and Dean-Speed slip-ons. Put forward controls the 2nd day. $550 and 2 hours was worth it for these old knees. Love it and definitely sold on the Softail chassis. Thanks for the review my friend.
Hey KS Moto Cafe, the Softail standard is a good ride, all your information presentation was nicely done, and, not too fast, that we "newbie's" couldn't keep up with you. This bike I'll put on my list of "considerable"! Nice work in preparing for this video. Doug🐻🏍️🤓👍⭐⭐⭐
I love your reviews man. Got all my armored gear now. Just paying off debt still. Love getting to see you ride stuff. I got my license but don't want to start test riding bikes till I'm actually ready to buy. Then ill start my real start to my riding life. Only ridden the two days on msf course and felt super comfortable handing the bike after that. When I get my first bike, I'll be doing some cone skills tests on weekends when I get my bike so I get familiar with its handling. Thank you so much for sharing these for those of us a bit behind your skills. You rock, man.
You are definitely taking the right steps on getting your first bike! My advice is to not wait too long because skill fades pretty quickly (right after the MSF course). After riding for 6 months, you will get this false confidence that you are a good rider and will get tempted to start taking more risks. Just watch out for that. My suggestion is to find a cheap used bike ($4-5k) that is a turnkey (don't buy vintage bikes or bikes that need a lot of fixes) and practice on hit it, get used to riding in all weather conditions, all types of roads, and then sell it for your real first bike of your choice!
@@KSMotoCafe yeah. Good point. I'm 44 years old so I feel pretty safe knowing I'm not going to push my envelope of safety. Been riding mountain bikes my whole life and honestly have never cared to learn to do wheelies or anything like that. I'll be happy to just ride like I have my whole life. Plus I dont want to ruin the gear I bought. Found the last joe rocket orange jacket they stopped making and bought it. I already am looking at a third full face helmet I want. Ruroc atlas 4.0 fenrir with gold lens and the Bluetooth insert for music on my phone and navigation. I'm so hooked and know I'm going to be in this for life.
I was a Dyna rider for better than 100k miles. Compare a Twincam soft tail to an M8 soft tail. The M8 really shines! Dynas are rubber mount, not a fair comparison. My Dyna is an Evo. Never was a Twincam fan, I worked for a HD dealership for 19 years. I think Harley has a winner with the M8. We have the same philosophy about windshield. Don't need one.
yeah people who knows engines always praise the M8 over the twincam. The design of twincam dynas also caused the dyna wobble during highspeed turns I hear.
@@KSMotoCafe Hell, I'd praise the Evo over the TC motor. The Dyna had a peculiar two point drive train mounting system and would tend to wallow a bit rode agressively. In 100k miles I tore out two front mounts and one rear. But I was very rough on that bike, and it never left me stuck anywhere. Had a pretty good wreck one night, me and the bike were pretty tore up and it still got me seven miles home. Still have it and it still runs.
It needs a bigger 5 gallon fuel tank. This is the blank canvas version in the softail lineup. A Saddleman Explorer seat, rear foot pegs and an aftermarket fairing, and some aftermarket bags, and you got yourself a light bagger. Another GREAT upgrade for these bikes is get the 56mm TALL rear monoshock off a newer 2022 or 2023 LRS or LRST as a takeoff, to replace the stock 3.5" 43mm travel showa rear shock. Now you'll have 4.5" of rear travel, which is much, much, MUCH easier on your lower back. 65 years old here with a bad lower back and this was the single best improvement to my Sport Glide.
Cool! My ramblings: If I had the money for a Fat Bob my second choice would probably be this blank canvas with the difference in price put towards the lovely mods (and then of course likely going on to pay for the bike twice...) The 107 vs 114 isn't a biggie for me and after a few mods you can end up with a classic clean Harley you can really call your own! Personally I did prefer the spoked wheels on this model though. Nice vid!
Love the bike as it is--- except forward controls are a must for my 62yo knees. $550 and 2 hours fixed that. Found a 2020 on CL with 100 miles on it and a ton cheaper than new or used from the HD shop. Seat is comfy but boring so I'm looking. 3.5 gal tank is plenty and it looks proper on the bike. Info cluster is perfect for me-just the info I need and nothing else. 107 engine has gobs of power and the ride is awesome. Harley owner since 81 and this is the best riding/handling bike I've had. Never had a softail before but I'm sold on it. Had to keep my sporty 72 cuz it's just so badass tho.
yeah buddy! I wish I had started riding sooner. It helps when you have family members who rides. I had no one so I was sheltered from riding a motorcycle until I hit early mid-life crisis lol
Wow, I never would have guessed the softail standard was basically the same size as a Sportster. Hmmm. Making my choice more difficult. I'm looking for something to bop around on, very light passenger duty, and light infrequent touring, why not pick up a dead cheap used Sportster?
I have the 2022 model. 1st gear seems really short and have to quickly change to second to get any sort of speed or torque off the line. Felt like my 21 forty eight was quicker off the mark.
it makes sense that the 48 felt quicker off the mark because sportys have great low end torque. But go watch my stage 1 ride with the Softail Standard. Completely different beast
I've watched alot of bike videos hitting the highway. And I cant help but notice the vibration in your handle bars. I dont think I've ever seen that much vibration from any other bike. I was almost worried for you.
Quite a good and very informative piece compared to most "reviews" on UA-cam that say next to nothing! As far as wind resistance: HUGE difference between them full face helmets compared to a skid kid or even a 3/4 - no comparison. A full face is like a car with a sun roof, no offense So, if you really want the honest wind blast assessment, ditch the full. From southern California - Ride Forever!
thanks for the feedback! Other than the change of the feeling on my face, the wind resistance wouldn't change how it hirs my body. But yeah good analogy about full face helmet being a car with sunroof 😀
@@KSMotoCafe What I'm saying is that the ratio is totally different when comparing the face versus body. The face blast is one that threatens to lift your helmet off your head; bad with a 3/4 but much worse with a shorty/skid lid. But, the lack of feeling "in the wind" is too much of a drawback for many of us true blue to resort to wearing the full face, as that simply takes away too much of the profound experience of being on a motorcycle in the true sense. The only combo to mitigate this (if one is dead set against putting on one of those fly-me-to Mars jobs on) on a Softail or touring platform bike, is to combine a short shield with so called "Fangs" (lower fork mounted deflectors). The shield is bad enough looks wise for many of us, even though you use one that you can see over, but those fangs are hideous, ruining the look of the front-end and with that, the whole bike. But, that combo lets you practically smoke a cigar at 70mph. Aerodynamics is a dark art. The windblast generated on the head comes up from below the tank, creating turbulence that delivers nasty buffeting to the head/helmet. Keep up the good work!
It’s 2022 and IMO Harley Davidson needs to continue to expand on fully liquid cooled engines. Selling and hanging onto 1950’s/1960’s hot air cooled motors that are overly labor intensive, high maintenance with out dated components like pushrods, huge primary chain in oil, and bottom end cams, pushrod lifters and three hole oil fill and drain is dead.
They are expanding but little by little to slowly change the fan base from the old to new. But the air cooled engines like the evolution is not high maintenance or labor intensive. Most people can DIY the work because it is so simple. Only reason it is going put is due to emission standards.
I would love to see some examples of how folks have customized this bike! I really like the blend of chrome and black... although I'd add a little more black......the bars and the exhaust for example....
shaking is part of a "Harley" bike. Without the shake and vibration, this bike wouldn't sell. The new Revolution Max engine bikes however do not shake or vibrate. If you are fond of the shake (like I am), it won't bother your daily ride
go with your gut feeling and what you are comfortable with. If you are physically comfortable with the handling and power of the FXST after a test ride and you don't mind paying the luxury price tag plus harley tax (upgrade mods) on top, then yeah good to go! If you want to develop good riding skills, make mistakes, and learn a bit before going big. Get a used sportster and sell it after you get used to riding!
not sure where you got the idea that it bothers me. I was just point out that there is no wind protection and suggested for those who want protect themselves from it for longer rides, to get a windshield.
@@KSMotoCafe it wasn’t about you. It was a continuation of what you said “if the wind bothers you get a windshield”. It wasn’t meant as a dig to you. Great review. Keep up the good work 🤙🏻
I think the billet wheels were thrown on all the models this year, because the spoke factory is in Taiwan. If you like the Sportster style mag wheels, just swap out to Low Rider S wheels. The Standard's rear fender and swing arm will accommodate the 180 rear tire.
Well i guess it isn't as fast as a Sportster 1200 in the ¼ mile, but at least it costs more and handles like a Greyhound bus. Bonus points, the Milwaukee isn't as reliable as the Evolution, either. So i guess it's great?!
@@KSMotoCafe yeah, you're right. You can still buy a 2022 Sportster with an Evo, but it seems unlikely they'll be offered anymore, after that. It's a sad thing that H-D still hasn't figured out a way to make powerplants they compete with other manufacturers in terms of performance, cost, or reliability. It's even more sad that they can't even match the Evo's legendary reliability, not have any of their offerings since the Evo been so user-friendly as far as ease of modification/repairs go. So, no, I'm not ok. I'm pretty upset. We all know H-D is in dire straits and few (if any) of their current offerings seem capable of turning that around for them. I guess i can take some confirm in knowing that the used market for Sportsters will likely stay strong for a long time to come, alright we can expect prices to jump up quickly once the new ones are officially discontinued.
@@fatrobdouble well said - sportsters (evo ones) will hold its value for awhile and the good condition stock ones will go up in price eventually. You can only buy new sportsters in North America and few countries around the world. Harley Europe, Australia, and parts of Asia was forced to cancel the Evo bikes in 2021 due to strict emission laws. So those countries have been without a Sportster for 2 years (not counting the Sportster S)
@@KSMotoCafe surprisingly enough, ironhead Sportsters ain't cheap in my local market... I guess bc old Harleys are chingón regardless and even though Ironheads are gonna break down easily, they're also fixed easily? But whatever, used Evo Sportsters plentiful and affordable, even ones in good shape with low miles. And ones with mechanical issues, cosmetic issues, even high miles... They're easy to work on and there's a huge supply of used/ aftermarket parts, even rebuilds are about as easy as it gets for a decent-sized 4 stroke... So buying a basketcase might make sense, depending on your goals and garage....
@@dunn-do I hear ya. Yeah keep on learning how to ride confidently on a smaller bike and soon you will conquer any bike out there! You are taking the smart approach by starting slow.
I hate that stupid don't get this as your first bike b.s., Screw that, you will learn on what you get and be fine, don't listen to the a- holes that say that stuff
So I’m looking to get into bikes and I really like the look and aesthetic of this bike would you say it’s a mistake to get this bike? and if so what would you recommend?
Not a mistake, this bike is a great bike. But for a new rider, your chances of dropping it or getting into an accident is a lot higher in your first year of riding. I just believe you should start small and work your way up. Do you lose money doing that? Perhaps but the skills/confidence you gain from learning how to ride on a smaller bike is priceless. Choosing your bike depends on what you want to do as a rider (long travels, daily commutes, off-roading, go fast, go relax, etc); size (short or tall); and style (cruiser, sport, adv). So yeah - if you are looking at harley - I suggest starting with Sportster if you are under 6'
@@KSMotoCafe First, thank you for the reply! I’ll take your advice into consideration and I see the logic in starting small and working your way up for experience since I’ve never really ridden a bike before.I do want a Harley and liked the look of the 22 Soft tail standard that’s what started my interest in bikes.I am under 6’ so I checked out the sportster and it doesn’t look too bad. Are you saying that its more beginner friendly than the standard cause of my size or is it just an easier bike in general?
@@sexyelote2638 have a watch of my Iron 883 reviews or just my earlier episodes. I started riding in the fall of 2020 and my first bike is the Iron 883 (the one you see on my channel banner). Like you, I have never ridden a motorized two wheels and I didnt know how to drive standard. So it was a big challenge for me to get a motorcycle but my hunger for riding outweighed the fear. So I got myself on a MSF course and then started this channel to provide a New Rider experience!
Thanks for watching! Be sure to stick around for the Stage 1 standard review and see if rhe Harley Tax is worth it!
Traded my sportster last month for a 2020 standard. I freaking love the standard
yeah buddy! good choice :)
I have three Harleys. One is a 94 XL 1200 I've done some things to.
When I'm dead and gone someone can have it. ( Newest one is a 2022 Street Bob. Love it!)
really love how you show what you look like on the bike, that’s something i wish everyone would do but i rarely see it. definitely earned a like
Thank you! Yeah I was looking for something like that when I was searching for my first bike but there weren't any. So I decided to fill the void for all my reviews. Thanks again!
Huge softail standard fan. I felt your review was really good. Only items I would add is seat and maybe a small windshield.
I just think the regular package, for me, is perfect. Polished engine pieces, I like the exhaust and the air cleaner too. Such a clean design. Thank you for the exposure to this cool bike.
Thanks for watching! I really enjoyed riding this bike, especially with the stage 1 kit on it - it really opened her up
I live in the NYC area and I just got mine and I will say. I love it, it rides smooth and has great speed at 3rd gear. It is definitely worth it, if you're a new rider and new to the Harley family, I say go for it.
I love the 107 engine. The standard is a great canvass
yeah I really like the smoothness from the 107
Great video and super impressed by how you were able to rattle off a bunch of stats while casually riding! Look forward to more great content 🙌🏽
Thank you for such kind words! Yeah it takes a lot of try to remember the stats and try to recite them while concentrating on how to ride this bike for the first time haha 😂 But as long as my viewers are enjoying and benefiting from them, I will continue to make em!
I think they look much better with spoked wheels. Glad I got mine before they went to the alloy ones. But either way they're great bikes.
thanks for providing your thoughts!
Tubeless tires is where it's at. Plug the tire, on the bike, have an electric air pump in your bags, and your on your way again, down the road. Never happen with a tubed bike.
Worked for Harley Davidson a lot of years. I watched the TC motor from start to finish. They had several serious issues that took several years to iron out. Never cared for them. Harley has a definite winner with the M8.
I bought a 2022 Street Bob.
No regrets!
new street bob is all you need! 114 is plenty
@@KSMotoCafe well, almost.
A two brothers exaust replace the paper filter with a K&N, and Harley's "warranty approved" tune,
then ride the sh.,tuffing outta the bike.
Thank you so much~~!
Your review very helpful,
So I ride my 2022 standard with a smile day by day ~~😃
I put HD windshield, sundowner 2up seat, sissy bar, engine guard ...etc
I'm very satisfied with that~~
I started with the xg500 and I am 6’3 so it was a hard 4 months until I got this one but 2023 luckily it came with some upgrades
IMO you do the best reviews. As a new rider myself looking at Harley’s your videos have been great. Hope your channel continues to grow you deserve it !
wow thanks brother! really appreciate the feedback 😊
I agree. I listen to all of them pertaining to my current purchase.
New owner of a 2022 Street Bob.
This guy pretty much has his shit together. Thanks.
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@@charlesharper7292 nice ! I just test drove a new street bob last week it’s gonna be my next bike too.
IMO, any M8 bike is a massive, MASSIVE, upgrade from a traditional sportster.
I haven’t ridden the standard but I have ridden several other softails and own a Low Rider S which I traded my iron 883 for. The very first time I got on a softail (slim 107) it was a shock to the senses. I knew right then I was trading in my beloved sportster for one of these softails with that M8 engine. Settled on the last ‘21 Low Rider S left on the lot. I absolutely dig that standard. Beautiful bike in every single way. I prefer it to the street bob even with the bigger engine. The 107 is no slouch by any means!
100% agreed. I still am waiting to get on a LRS but at this rate I will never because HD can't keep them in the lot long enough!
I just rode a Softail slim yesterday. Definitely feel more torque on that than my 1200 Sporty. But not crazy difference. Is it worth trading in my Sporty for it? Nope. But I'd like to have one. I'll probably just buy a used one in few years. What I don't like is the small tank. My XL1200C has a full gallon more gas storage!
yeah if you already have the 1200C, you are set for 95% of the type of road riding.
@@teslaedison6236 My son has a XL1200C, a ‘96 model. Beautiful bike and lots of fun. Lightweight bike with dual front discs on his.
He’s just the opposite. While he absolutely loves his 1200….he’d trade it in for a softail standard in a heartbeat if his credit was good enough.
@@teslaedison6236 there’s a pretty big power difference and having that 6th gear is a game changer especially if you ride on the freeway a lot like I do. As for the tank you still waste more gas on a sportster cus the rmps are running higher. You just don’t know
Had my 2020 about 8 months. Dean-Speed slipons, S&S mini teardrop, fwd controls, led turn signals, red vans grips, custom seat and red plug wires so far. Best bike I have had so far.
sounds amazing!
I rode both the Street bob and the standard. I couldn't tell the difference in the power-both had plenty to spare. Been on hogs for 40+ years but I am in no way a rider to take advantage of the extra 7 cubes. A better, heavy handed rider might be able to. Power, torque, looks and handling-this bike is like butter. Nice review mate-Thanks.
thanks for the feedback!
Most underrated softail.
I blame the Street Bob
Softail standard for president
That was a really good review. The only thing that brings this bike down for me is the small gas tank. I really wish HD would've kept the bigger gas tanks when they made the new Softail line. And now that they've gotten rid of the Sportglide and regular Low Rider, there are even fewer options for a 5-gallon tank :(
Yeah sportglide was really the full pkg. But it does help with the bike feeling more lighter when it has 3.6g tank
The low rider tank bolts on I just got a 23 and my gripe was the tank as well
@@KSMotoCafe It still is the full package, if you can find a 2018 -2021 Sport Glide, used. Start looking!!! They are out there. I own a 2018, 20k miles on it, still stock, and I wouldn't change anything on this motor, it does everything just perfect, right from the factory, even with the stock 2 into 1 exhaust system.
Love the pavilion on the street Bob and the symbols on the thingy. 😉
Believe it or not a soft tail was my first True Harley beyond Buell … a simple windshield upgrade made the ride well worth it
yeah I can definitely see how much a windshield could make this bike so much more comfortable!
Keep it up! Quality content right here, bro!
Thank you! Glad few people find it enjoyable 😃
I bought a 21 street bob about 5 months ago and absolutely love it. I looked at both the standard and the street bob. I liked the 114 engine and the blacked out look better than the chrome. Not that the chrome was bad or the 107 engine seemed lacking to me at all. Both engines have plenty of power. Luckily I was able to fit the slightly more expensive street bob into my budget. If I couldn't I still would have been very happy with the softail standard. Great video! I subscribed. Maybe you can do a street bob in the future?
Thanks for the support Jacob and sharing your journey to the Street Bob 114! I was actually lined up to review the Street Bob on that day but it was sold right when I got there. So they offered me to test the Standard and the Stage 1 Standard instead. Now only the Street Bob and LRS remains to complete my softail reviews but they all seem to sell too quickly!
@@KSMotoCafe the street bob and standard to me have the best value in the softail line up. I love the classic look and luckily the street bob was at the top of my budget and was able to get 1. Honestly out of all the softails it probably would be the bike I would have picked regardless if I could afford I higher priced bike. The only other 2 softails I really liked were the deluxe and the breakout which unfortunately they discontinued in the U.S markets. If they still made either of those bikes last year I might have picked up some more overtime to get the deluxe or breakout! Really enjoy that classic look. The street bob and standard are just larger sporsters IMO. I think if you test ride a street bob 114 you might take it home.
@@KSMotoCafe look forward to more videos especially that street bob video! I live in Maine. Your just north of the boarder from me!
I was looking for either the street bob or the Softail std. The 114 vs the 107 was not in question. Both have great usable power. I do prefer the chrome and spoked wheels. It all came down to the best deal, mileage and how much someone had fiddled with it. For a bike that boasts the MSRP under 14k, I certainly couldn't find one new or used at the local dealerships. High teens for the standard and low 20s for the bob. I figured I saved about 7-8k buying private. 102 miles and the guy knew he made a mid life crisis mistake. He has ridden it twice. Home from the dealership and once to the post office. I watched it on CL and he dropped the price. I was so excited with the bike and the price I didn't insult him by beating him down more. I've had several sporties, shovels and Evo s since the early 80s and this is definitely my favorite. Power, looks and handles like a dream. Love every time I fire it up. Got a custom seat and Dean-Speed slip-ons. Put forward controls the 2nd day. $550 and 2 hours was worth it for these old knees. Love it and definitely sold on the Softail chassis. Thanks for the review my friend.
I write this before I have watched but I have definitely been looking at this bike and I’m stoked to see this one 🤟🏼
I think you will enjoy the Stage 1 impression ride more 😀
Hey KS Moto Cafe, the Softail standard is a good ride, all your information presentation was nicely done, and, not too fast, that we "newbie's" couldn't keep up with you. This bike I'll put on my list of "considerable"! Nice work in preparing for this video. Doug🐻🏍️🤓👍⭐⭐⭐
thanks for a nice review!
I love your reviews man. Got all my armored gear now. Just paying off debt still. Love getting to see you ride stuff. I got my license but don't want to start test riding bikes till I'm actually ready to buy. Then ill start my real start to my riding life. Only ridden the two days on msf course and felt super comfortable handing the bike after that. When I get my first bike, I'll be doing some cone skills tests on weekends when I get my bike so I get familiar with its handling. Thank you so much for sharing these for those of us a bit behind your skills. You rock, man.
You are definitely taking the right steps on getting your first bike! My advice is to not wait too long because skill fades pretty quickly (right after the MSF course). After riding for 6 months, you will get this false confidence that you are a good rider and will get tempted to start taking more risks. Just watch out for that. My suggestion is to find a cheap used bike ($4-5k) that is a turnkey (don't buy vintage bikes or bikes that need a lot of fixes) and practice on hit it, get used to riding in all weather conditions, all types of roads, and then sell it for your real first bike of your choice!
@@KSMotoCafe yeah. Good point. I'm 44 years old so I feel pretty safe knowing I'm not going to push my envelope of safety. Been riding mountain bikes my whole life and honestly have never cared to learn to do wheelies or anything like that. I'll be happy to just ride like I have my whole life. Plus I dont want to ruin the gear I bought. Found the last joe rocket orange jacket they stopped making and bought it. I already am looking at a third full face helmet I want. Ruroc atlas 4.0 fenrir with gold lens and the Bluetooth insert for music on my phone and navigation. I'm so hooked and know I'm going to be in this for life.
I was a Dyna rider for better than 100k miles. Compare a Twincam soft tail to an M8 soft tail. The M8 really shines! Dynas are rubber mount, not a fair comparison.
My Dyna is an Evo. Never was a Twincam fan, I worked for a HD dealership for 19 years. I think Harley has a winner with the M8.
We have the same philosophy about windshield. Don't need one.
yeah people who knows engines always praise the M8 over the twincam. The design of twincam dynas also caused the dyna wobble during highspeed turns I hear.
@@KSMotoCafe Hell, I'd praise the Evo over the TC motor. The Dyna had a peculiar two point drive train mounting system and would tend to wallow a bit rode agressively. In 100k miles I tore out two front mounts and one rear. But I was very rough on that bike, and it never left me stuck anywhere. Had a pretty good wreck one night, me and the bike were pretty tore up and it still got me seven miles home. Still have it and it still runs.
It needs a bigger 5 gallon fuel tank. This is the blank canvas version in the softail lineup. A Saddleman Explorer seat, rear foot pegs and an aftermarket fairing, and some aftermarket bags, and you got yourself a light bagger. Another GREAT upgrade for these bikes is get the 56mm TALL rear monoshock off a newer 2022 or 2023 LRS or LRST as a takeoff, to replace the stock 3.5" 43mm travel showa rear shock. Now you'll have 4.5" of rear travel, which is much, much, MUCH easier on your lower back. 65 years old here with a bad lower back and this was the single best improvement to my Sport Glide.
Beautiful update.excellant thank you
thanks for the watch!
Thank you so much for this review. I loved it and I found it very useful.
glad I could help!
That's exactly the video I was looking for thank you from Germany 😁 I think I save 1 year more money and will start on a Softail 👍🏻
danka! Definitely go the used route to save more $$
Cool! My ramblings: If I had the money for a Fat Bob my second choice would probably be this blank canvas with the difference in price put towards the lovely mods (and then of course likely going on to pay for the bike twice...) The 107 vs 114 isn't a biggie for me and after a few mods you can end up with a classic clean Harley you can really call your own! Personally I did prefer the spoked wheels on this model though. Nice vid!
yeah after trying the stage 1 version of this - I had as much thrill on the stage 1 104 as I did on the fat bob
I just won one of these !! Still need to pick it up. Stoked
Love the bike as it is--- except forward controls are a must for my 62yo knees. $550 and 2 hours fixed that. Found a 2020 on CL with 100 miles on it and a ton cheaper than new or used from the HD shop. Seat is comfy but boring so I'm looking. 3.5 gal tank is plenty and it looks proper on the bike. Info cluster is perfect for me-just the info I need and nothing else. 107 engine has gobs of power and the ride is awesome. Harley owner since 81 and this is the best riding/handling bike I've had. Never had a softail before but I'm sold on it. Had to keep my sporty 72 cuz it's just so badass tho.
best review i watched about '22 softail standard. thanks a lot, subbed!
Awesome overview, thanks for making it!
thanks for your time! Cheers 🍻
FYI, passenger PILLION, not pavillion. A pavillion is an open, ornamental garden structure.
Excellent review! Thank you.
no problem! glad you enjoyed it!
Good honest review, Thank you,
you are most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it
Wanted one but it was almost 19k out the door...so ill just watch videos and daydream..great review
me too.. thanks for watching!
I’m 13 but when I’m older Ik I want a Harley my grandad who I live with drives one he keeps it clean at all times
yeah buddy! I wish I had started riding sooner. It helps when you have family members who rides. I had no one so I was sheltered from riding a motorcycle until I hit early mid-life crisis lol
Good boy start young and never quit riding
Great vid, I’ll have to check out the Standard and the street bob this summer
for sure man - they are still selling like hot cakes!
I picked my 2022 last week ..love it !! great bike!!
congrats!!
This, and the Low Rider S, are the only current HD bikes I'm digging. If I actually bought a Harley, I'm almost sure I'd get a vintage bike.
Thanks for this vid ! Great stuff
I went for a 2018 softail slim for the old school features . Don’t think the 103 lacks get up and go but not compared it tbh. Nice review 👍🇬🇧
Slim is such a nice bike man!
Yeah, I hate Harley quit building it.
Was one of my favorites. Looks like it rolled straight outta that old Marlon Brando movie!
Great review !!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great videos mate
thanks man!
Wish the Standard came...standard, with a 5 gal tank (or at least had the option for it, same with the Streey Bob).
One would think for the price, the clutch and front brake lever could be adjustable.
Nice clip
Best damn motorcycle reviewer ever great job buddy love it
aw thanks man - I needed to hear that :)
Good review
Love the exhaust look
This bike is good the only think I don't like it is the financial rate is to high for people with a good credit to high .
I would say all Hd have high rate
I think the 883 just looks better. Maybe if it was blacked out with the wheel from the 883 I would be interested in the standard.
Wow, I never would have guessed the softail standard was basically the same size as a Sportster. Hmmm. Making my choice more difficult. I'm looking for something to bop around on, very light passenger duty, and light infrequent touring, why not pick up a dead cheap used Sportster?
I have the 2022 model. 1st gear seems really short and have to quickly change to second to get any sort of speed or torque off the line. Felt like my 21 forty eight was quicker off the mark.
it makes sense that the 48 felt quicker off the mark because sportys have great low end torque. But go watch my stage 1 ride with the Softail Standard. Completely different beast
@@KSMotoCafe And the weight difference I guess. I'll check out your other video.
The Softail Slim was such a better looking machine!!!!
yes when they cancelled the slim - it was a sad day
@@KSMotoCafe Such a beautiful stripped down bike!!! What were they thinking? I love the Slim!!!
I've watched alot of bike videos hitting the highway. And I cant help but notice the vibration in your handle bars. I dont think I've ever seen that much vibration from any other bike. I was almost worried for you.
I just bought a Nightster. I think after about 2 or 3 years I might switch over to whichever Version of the Soft-tail exists in 2027.
Quite a good and very informative piece compared to most "reviews" on UA-cam that say next to nothing! As far as wind resistance: HUGE difference between them full face helmets compared to a skid kid or even a 3/4 - no comparison. A full face is like a car with a sun roof, no offense So, if you really want the honest wind blast assessment, ditch the full.
From southern California - Ride Forever!
thanks for the feedback! Other than the change of the feeling on my face, the wind resistance wouldn't change how it hirs my body. But yeah good analogy about full face helmet being a car with sunroof 😀
@@KSMotoCafe What I'm saying is that the ratio is totally different when comparing the face versus body. The face blast is one that threatens to lift your helmet off your head; bad with a 3/4 but much worse with a shorty/skid lid. But, the lack of feeling "in the wind" is too much of a drawback for many of us true blue to resort to wearing the full face, as that simply takes away too much of the profound experience of being on a motorcycle in the true sense. The only combo to mitigate this (if one is dead set against putting on one of those fly-me-to Mars jobs on) on a Softail or touring platform bike, is to combine a short shield with so called "Fangs" (lower fork mounted deflectors). The shield is bad enough looks wise for many of us, even though you use one that you can see over, but those fangs are hideous, ruining the look of the front-end and with that, the whole bike. But, that combo lets you practically smoke a cigar at 70mph. Aerodynamics is a dark art. The windblast generated on the head comes up from below the tank, creating turbulence that delivers nasty buffeting to the head/helmet. Keep up the good work!
Like the bike, hate the instrument cluster.
How do you think this bike will handle long distance travels?
better seat and some saddlebags should handle very nicely
Why Harley did tiny 2 inch display that a good question?! Daylight you don't see anything on that display. Very weird
It’s 2022 and IMO Harley Davidson needs to continue to expand on fully liquid cooled engines. Selling and hanging onto 1950’s/1960’s hot air cooled motors that are overly labor intensive, high maintenance with out dated components like pushrods, huge primary chain in oil, and bottom end cams, pushrod lifters and three hole oil fill and drain is dead.
They are expanding but little by little to slowly change the fan base from the old to new. But the air cooled engines like the evolution is not high maintenance or labor intensive. Most people can DIY the work because it is so simple. Only reason it is going put is due to emission standards.
I would love to see some examples of how folks have customized this bike! I really like the blend of chrome and black... although I'd add a little more black......the bars and the exhaust for example....
yeah I might make a collage about that - thanks for the idea
@@KSMotoCafe now that would be awesome! I would definitely watch it.
I don't know man, I see the bike shaking a lot, not sure if it'll be good for a daily driver. Just my opinion
shaking is part of a "Harley" bike. Without the shake and vibration, this bike wouldn't sell. The new Revolution Max engine bikes however do not shake or vibrate. If you are fond of the shake (like I am), it won't bother your daily ride
What is the height of the Ape-Hangers on this bike ?
What if your learning to ride and the dealership talked you into a fxst ?
go with your gut feeling and what you are comfortable with. If you are physically comfortable with the handling and power of the FXST after a test ride and you don't mind paying the luxury price tag plus harley tax (upgrade mods) on top, then yeah good to go! If you want to develop good riding skills, make mistakes, and learn a bit before going big. Get a used sportster and sell it after you get used to riding!
Wait, do you have an 883?
Have to have a windshield. The stock seat is also torture.
What type of windshield?
Can you do the 23??
People telling me to just shell out more for a street bob. Should i? Or is it too much?
streetbob had better bang for the buck but nowadays, they are all overpriced. I would just patiently wait for a nicely used softail for cheaper
@@KSMotoCafe yeah good advice. A new street bob costs about $25k around here
Just got one
hell yeah! congrats!
Whats it redline at
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I want this bike but the digital speedo really puts me off
I really wasn't an eyesore and I got used to it quickly. I can see why they went with the same gauge on the LRS ST
If you ever get the chance would love to see your thoughts on the sportster 48
@@louisjowett3063 Here is the recent revisit of the 48 - ua-cam.com/video/_n5-h_w4Rcc/v-deo.html
If all this wind bothers you, stay in your car. 🤷🏼♂️
not sure where you got the idea that it bothers me. I was just point out that there is no wind protection and suggested for those who want protect themselves from it for longer rides, to get a windshield.
@@KSMotoCafe it wasn’t about you. It was a continuation of what you said “if the wind bothers you get a windshield”. It wasn’t meant as a dig to you. Great review. Keep up the good work 🤙🏻
@@freddyb8955 ah got it. Thanks for clearing it up Freddy. Cheers!
I think sportster style mag wheels would have looked better...
💯 true
I think the billet wheels were thrown on all the models this year, because the spoke factory is in Taiwan.
If you like the Sportster style mag wheels, just swap out to Low Rider S wheels. The Standard's rear fender and swing arm will accommodate the 180 rear tire.
@@deangullberry5148 LRS wheels are 🔥
Can you have a kick start put on it
ummm I think you can mod it as long as you the $$ to custom make the parts unless.. this was a sarcastic question, then... bravo
107 vs 114, not that much difference. Standard tank decal looks better than the ones on the Street Bob.
I agree! less flashy
#harleytax !
a must!
Was this a dare to see how many times could you say my 883?
🤣🤣🤣
2002 review?
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nothing like a sporty
Well i guess it isn't as fast as a Sportster 1200 in the ¼ mile, but at least it costs more and handles like a Greyhound bus. Bonus points, the Milwaukee isn't as reliable as the Evolution, either. So i guess it's great?!
You alright Rob? lol. The Evolution engine is done with and Harley isn't going back on it. Next best thing that is "Harley" is the M8.
@@KSMotoCafe yeah, you're right. You can still buy a 2022 Sportster with an Evo, but it seems unlikely they'll be offered anymore, after that. It's a sad thing that H-D still hasn't figured out a way to make powerplants they compete with other manufacturers in terms of performance, cost, or reliability. It's even more sad that they can't even match the Evo's legendary reliability, not have any of their offerings since the Evo been so user-friendly as far as ease of modification/repairs go.
So, no, I'm not ok. I'm pretty upset. We all know H-D is in dire straits and few (if any) of their current offerings seem capable of turning that around for them. I guess i can take some confirm in knowing that the used market for Sportsters will likely stay strong for a long time to come, alright we can expect prices to jump up quickly once the new ones are officially discontinued.
@@fatrobdouble well said - sportsters (evo ones) will hold its value for awhile and the good condition stock ones will go up in price eventually. You can only buy new sportsters in North America and few countries around the world. Harley Europe, Australia, and parts of Asia was forced to cancel the Evo bikes in 2021 due to strict emission laws. So those countries have been without a Sportster for 2 years (not counting the Sportster S)
@@KSMotoCafe surprisingly enough, ironhead Sportsters ain't cheap in my local market... I guess bc old Harleys are chingón regardless and even though Ironheads are gonna break down easily, they're also fixed easily? But whatever, used Evo Sportsters plentiful and affordable, even ones in good shape with low miles. And ones with mechanical issues, cosmetic issues, even high miles... They're easy to work on and there's a huge supply of used/ aftermarket parts, even rebuilds are about as easy as it gets for a decent-sized 4 stroke... So buying a basketcase might make sense, depending on your goals and garage....
You're tripping.
I wish this had at least a 4 gal fuel tank.
unfortunately you gotta go with Low Rider S to get that 5G tank
@@KSMotoCafe haha sadly I’m too short for it. What do you think is cheaper tank swap for bigger tank on street bob or lowering on Low rider s?
@@dunn-do how tall are you? LRS comes with mid controls and the seat height isn't that tall.
@@KSMotoCafe I’m 5’5”. I’m still learning the one foot down but I just don’t like the feel of it.
@@dunn-do I hear ya. Yeah keep on learning how to ride confidently on a smaller bike and soon you will conquer any bike out there! You are taking the smart approach by starting slow.
that’s not a stage one that’s the stock exhaust!
when did I say this was stage 1? the bike I rode after was stage 1
I hate that stupid don't get this as your first bike b.s., Screw that, you will learn on what you get and be fine, don't listen to the a- holes that say that stuff
Really couldn’t hear the bike 😢
You know you said 2002
possible 😂
No me gustan las ruedas 😢😢😢
I wish i had a dollar for every time he said " iron 883".
lol you would be $30 richer!
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Every time someone making a video says, "Without further ado", that in itself is further ado. SMH
ok 👌
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So I’m looking to get into bikes and I really like the look and aesthetic of this bike would you say it’s a mistake to get this bike? and if so what would you recommend?
Not a mistake, this bike is a great bike. But for a new rider, your chances of dropping it or getting into an accident is a lot higher in your first year of riding. I just believe you should start small and work your way up. Do you lose money doing that? Perhaps but the skills/confidence you gain from learning how to ride on a smaller bike is priceless. Choosing your bike depends on what you want to do as a rider (long travels, daily commutes, off-roading, go fast, go relax, etc); size (short or tall); and style (cruiser, sport, adv). So yeah - if you are looking at harley - I suggest starting with Sportster if you are under 6'
@@KSMotoCafe First, thank you for the reply! I’ll take your advice into consideration and I see the logic in starting small and working your way up for experience since I’ve never really ridden a bike before.I do want a Harley and liked the look of the 22 Soft tail standard that’s what started my interest in bikes.I am under 6’ so I checked out the sportster and it doesn’t look too bad. Are you saying that its more beginner friendly than the standard cause of my size or is it just an easier bike in general?
@@sexyelote2638 have a watch of my Iron 883 reviews or just my earlier episodes. I started riding in the fall of 2020 and my first bike is the Iron 883 (the one you see on my channel banner). Like you, I have never ridden a motorized two wheels and I didnt know how to drive standard. So it was a big challenge for me to get a motorcycle but my hunger for riding outweighed the fear. So I got myself on a MSF course and then started this channel to provide a New Rider experience!
Great review, thanks 😊
Thanks for your time Alex!
Good review
thank you