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It's surprising that there are barely any stories or records shared from global south. South Asian subcontinent for example has many historic queer stories. Same in many places in rest of the Asia, Africa and South America. So many of the things were destroyed by imperialism and colonialism.
@@alternativetime2778The other areas and ethnicities of the world have surely produced stories and records regarding their queer histories as well. It’s unlikely that their histories include much or anything about North America and Europe.
South America was always largely homophobic even today. And yes many records were destroyed but , the people now in power are str8, Christian wo/men that never cared to find it because they only care about the str8, Christian side of history which keeps being shoved down our throats since elementary school.
I think it is important to remember our history. LBGTQ+ history is varied and interesting. It is important to remember LGBTQ+ history and activism began before Stonewall. My one critique is: No one was burned in the Salem witch trials. They were hanged except for Giles Corey. He was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty.
There were some trials before the Salem witch trials that killed hundreds to thousands of women that took place in England, Scotland etc. in which women were burned at the stake. He might have been discussing specifically the Salem trials and accidentally messed up a fact, but I thought this was an interesting thing.
Seeing the super super early depictions of gay couples like the Egyptian ones honestly makes me want to write a story about 2 gay people and their love in ancient times.... I think I'll do that actually, it sounds like a fun little hobby to get started on🤔
My parents were born the year of the Stonewall Riots. The Netherlands legalized gay marriage 2 days after I was born. The US legalized gay marriage my freshman year of high school. Just to give a bit of a time reference. This is very, very recent shit. And yet progress has inched forward extremely slowly.
Fun fact: There's an openly gay K-pop idol named Go Tae-seob who uses the stage name Holland. (He chose it because the Netherlands is also called Holland and they were the first country to legalize same-sex marriage.) I'd say that he's pretty widely known within the K-pop community, though unfortunately some people just know him for being "that one gay K-pop idol," but he's more than just that; he has good music, too. His story is pretty interesting; I'd suggest reading up on him if you like K-pop or generally want to know more about him.
That is not true. The history of people who came before you does not have any impact on the validity of your own identity. Even if there was no history of lgbtq+ acceptance, that wouldn't mean you aren't valid and don't deserve acceptance in the present.
It's so overwhelming having knowledge about the history of LGBT. I believe they also said Philippines was LGBT friendly before the spaniards ever forced their religion, "Christianity" to us, and just imagine if that didn't happened? Will this archipelago with thousands of islands be LGBT friendly? As a gay person myself, gay people are suffering here because of mistreatment towards the community. We also have this eveil, homophobic politician named "Manny Pacquiao" and I just hopes they'll never elect him as president for this upcoming election in May, 2022 because that's pure stupidity, he doesn't think of us as human beings. I have no choice but to immigrate to one of the countries which has same-sex marriage.
fellow filipino here! in some tribal religions (pre-colonial) they had queer gods/goddesses/deities/shamans etc. in general queer people were normalised/common and there were no stigma. though i don’t truly believe that everyone was accepting for various reasons. also i didn’t knew about manny tho
It is still terrifying now, but if you have money in the usa or live in a country with free/affordable healthcare it is at least possible to live with it.
For those who didn’t know, Alexander Hamilton, writer of the constitution, is suspected to be Bisexual, and may have even had a relationship with John Laurens, one of his “close friends”, and even had more enthusiasm describing his love for Laurens then he did describing his own wife! And looking at letter between the two, it is pretty evident, there is a book where you can see all recovered letters
@@TheTrooper1878 you know scrubbing public figures of their identities to make them more comfortable for homophobes to accept and thus allowing them to further appropriate history in order to justify their own bigoted beliefs is bad right?
@@TheTrooper1878 you really have terrible reading comprehension, so I’ll try to dumb this down for you. Mean people like to look up to people like Alexander Hamilton, but don’t like gay people (because they’re mean) so if we make the sexuality of their hero’s easier to see, we take the mean peoples hero’s away from them, and gives them less historical figures to point to when they’re trying to be mean to people. There, now even a 4th grader can understand what I said and how stopping the historical appropriation of queer people by bigots is good.
@@timpullen4941 there are other languages that actually include h in that rule. For example, the Latin words ex and ab change depending on the letter of the next word including h. So “ego ē villā” because there isn’t a vowel or h but “ego ex hortō” because the next word starts with a vowel or h
7:16 I do wonder about the "Trajan as first gay emperor" thing, given that the Ancient Greeks assumed men could be attracted to anyone. Though that would make people like Alexander the Great, who had a documented eunuch lover, two wives, and probably-longterm-male-partner Hephaestion bisexual by our definitions, so maybe that's the distinction? Though there was that Chinese emperor who gave rise to the term "cut sleeve" for gay people when he cut off the sleeve of his robe to avoid waking up his boyfriend, and people in the court apparently thought that was super cute and started imitating him!
Thanks,now I'm sure that I'm normal,well in the past I was bullied because I was friends only with girls,but now I'm in college and I know that I'm bi and I'm sure I'm normal
And so, just skipped over the ancient Greeks, where homosexuality was accepted and celebrated. Also, no mention at all of early Chinese and Indian societies where homosexuality was a common part of life -- right up to the level of the emperor.
Random bi guy here. While the super ancient examples like the cave paintings and such are very significant and interesting because they confirm LGBT people existed back then, it's a bit of a stretch to draw the conclusion that the whole culture was heavily accepting of them. That's like historians and archeologists of the future finding evidence of LGBT people existing in our time period and assuming that everyone in our time period was heavily accepting too. I imagine it was probably nuanced and complicated back then just like nowadays. We'll probably never know definitively though, it is called prehistory for a reason after all. Otherwise, a well made and informative video.
I don't know why but I started tearing up watching this, it's really incredible to hear out history, and what we as a community have accomplished in all these years :')
Literally one of the best intros ever. 💜🦄😅 "KINDA diiicks" 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously, nothing but love and support for the amazing message and work this channel produces (also the period acronyms are amazing and relief-giving.)
@@danielcrafter9349 I am not forcing anything to anyone. It doesn't change the fact that the cabal is inverting/perverting basically everything and yes, I am a transwoman and I am able to question things!
I just want to add about the Nazi time that 1. Lesbians could get send to concentration camps, wearing a black triangle and marked as antisocial. 2. Even after the Nazi regime in Germany the law that made homosexual acts illegal wasn’t lifted. So people who were sent into jail by the Nazis still had to do their time even after Germany was in the hands of the Allies/ had their new democracy. The law remained up until 1994! (It had existed before too, but the Nazis added some parts and pushed actually imprisoning people for it)
@@wannabecake1 from what I heard they were given the least amount of food and the most amount of physical work for some time. I don’t know what it looked like after the first few years when the Nazis got crueler and crueler though.
I'm not saying Jews weren't treated poorly, please understand me. I'm saying - yes, of course Jews were treated terrible. But gay men were discriminated against by BOTH Nazis and Jewish prisoners in concentration camps. Then on the Allies side of the war, gay men were treated terribly there too. So while sure, the Jews had it bad - at least some people were on their side. For gay men, no one was on their side, not even the Jews.
Plato’s philosophy on love was based on same sex relationships! And it was commonly accepted during his time that Achilles and Patroclus from the Iliad were lovers.
All of these dates should be much more well known, but I'd love a much deeper historical dive into these events. Also maybe a less eurocentric take too.
Note: no “witches” were burned in the Salem witch trials, that was a European thing. Punishment in Salem was hanging or essentially stacking rocks on someone until they can’t breathe
1:50 - 2:02, dude, homosexuality did happen back then, we have records of it happening in the early Bible, that doesn't mean it was widely accepted back then, also that may have depicted men playing games together or hanging out, just because there are two men near each other does not mean they are supposed to be depicted as having gay intercourse. Also, if the majority of the world was gay and or "approved" being gay then the world population would be a hell of a lot less than it currently is, considering that there were only about 5 million people back then, if there was a large portion that were gay humans might not have existed today, being gay was an extreme minority of the population back then, and still is today.
First part yes, second part no. You don't know that lol. Besides, your argument bases itself on the assumption that people turn gay. India was very accepting of lgbt before the brits came and they still had a big population.
@@ckaybit dude i'm talking over 11,000 years ago, not 200, and also yes people turn gay, no one is born inherently gay, being gay comes from life experience and discovering you are who you are, and again, 11,600 years ago there were no "big populations" worldwide there were estimated to be about 5 million people. Like i said as well, being gay has ALWAYS been a minority of the population, and all major religions spanning all the way until current date say that being gay is either a sin or something you should not do or act as.
@@smwish6010 Being gay doesn't come inherently from life expierence and "discovering who you are". Its so crazy how people like you can say a flat out opinion as if its a proven fact, especially with no further explanation, sources, or reason.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 nah I mean if you can tell me a legitimate case of someone being born gay with actual proof I'll believe you, but your saying this, watching and believing this video maker's bs so please don't get into "flat out opinion...with no further explanation..." - you
Bro said Ronald Reagan was one of the worst presidents. I don't like him for his homophobia and his actions taken against drugs. But he wasn't one of the worst. That can go to Woodrow Wilson, Nixon, George W Bush, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden.
This was very interesting. I've never looked into our LGBTQ history before and it was nice to learn about, and I'm absolutely shocked that gay marriage has only been legalizd since 2015 in the US
It was lefalized here and there in some states before 2015, but because it was each state’s decision, that meant pretty much no south state had it legal. In 2015 is when it became legal at the federal level, and i remember it happening. Since then still there have been a few “protesters” in government jobs who refused to marry gay couples for “religious reasons”
the sentence "lesbian women [in 1933-45 Germany] were completely free to live however they wanted" (13:34) is simply untrue!!! Please look into the works of historian Claudia Schoppmann
Hi, I'm from Uruguay. I think we were the first ones in America (the continent) to recognise LGBTQ+ civil unions in 2008 and marriages in 2012, along with weed legalization, abortion and other nice things. Though I am heterosexual, I'm proud of every person that fights in order to make a difference and makes me truly happy all the positive things that are happening. We have to make sure to never repeat what other people did in the near past since there are A LOT of things we need to change in order to live in equity. Love knows no gender, color or faith!!!! Peace.
It's sad that its gay ancient history and not the history of love in ancient times. It's sad that we as humans are so ripped apart by small things. Go off king 👑
Its funny to see that humans over history have varying changes in what they perceive as right or wrong Really surprising how something can be right, then wrong, then right again
Okay, let's try this again. As someone who has studied history, a lot, this video is incredibly condescending, you're drawing extremely broad, overarching conclusions with very thin evidence, and some of the stuff you're just making up, because I can't find one credible source that supports you. It's faux-academia, it's wrong, and it's disgusting.
I assure you everything we say in the video is 100% accurate. We list all of our sources in the description of the episode as we do with all episodes. Sorry you have this opinion and sorry you felt this way.
@@PoweredByRainbows Wow, that was a very quick, respectful, and kind reply. Thank you to the whole team. I really appreciate. However, that's also not true, because I read all of the sources cited in the description. There wasn't a single source arguing some phantom changes were made to outlaw gay sexual activity under penalty of death in the Biblical book of Leviticus in 538 B.C.E., (and nobody really can conjecture about it confidently, because there's no evidence of it). The presenter claims the ancient Romans legalized same-sex marriage in 27 B.C.E., but that's also not true. I could not find any of the sources you cited claiming it was true, but I will admit I didn't look extremely thoroughly for it, so one sentence about it may have been thrown into one of the articles. The truth is that Roman law never recognized same-sex marriages, because Roman marriages had a religious significance, similarly to how modern day marriages do. It wasn't that uncommon to see people in some kind of same-sex union of sorts, but (much like how LGBT activist spot hard for gay marriage in the United States, because civil unions and marriages are NOT THE SAME THING) these Roman same sex unions were not marriages. You could say they might be something like concubines, but they weren't married. The presenter claims there were revisions made to the Catholic Bible during the Wycliffe translations, made around 1382 C.E., which somehow changed the meaning of the text from condemning pedophilia to condemning homosexuality, and that these revisions had a huge, long-lasting impact on the way Europeans viewed gay relationships up until this day. Not a single one of your cited sources makes that claim, and-much like the previous claim- it's not true. I'll also point out that you guys misrepresented the Navajo and Lakota ideas of two or five spirited individuals, and combine them with the non-gendered Cherokee language in order to support this idea that native Americans believed in the modern idea of a gender spectrum as we know it today, but one of your sources did say the same thing and that's an idea that a lot of people have just taken and run with so I really can't fault your team above anybody else. Anyway, I hope that helped to clear up any confusion and I look forward to seeing what you all have in store in the future!
For the record, Spain is actually the third country in the world to legalize same sex marriage the 2 of July 2005 and homosexuality was decriminalized the 26 of December 1978
In regards to the burial traditions you mentioned at 2:48 it's important to remember that people do NOT bury themselves. Burial traditions are not easy to interpret and one could just as easily interpret that particular burial in different ways. Perhaps they buried a man as a woman as a final insult to a dead person they didn't like? Perhaps the person was an eunuck/slave and thus not considered fully a man and therefore buried as a woman? Or perhaps the direction had some other religious or cultural significance that we will never know of? If we truly wish to understand ancient peoples we should be careful not to superimpose our modern cultural norms and values on ancient cultures. In regards to examples of homosexual relationships among the royalty; I don't think that says anything about whether or not homosexuality was accepted in society as a whole, even if the examples listed are true and accurate. Societal elites are well known throughout history for being able to do things that were not acceptable for the common plebs to do, including murder, theft, heresy, divorce etc. It does not mean that those things were socially accepted, it just means that those particular individuals were powerful enough that no one could stop them from doing what they wanted. It's also worth remembering that the world in ancient times was not as interconnected as the world is today and it's possible that LGBT+ stuff was accepted in one village but not in the next. A few scattered examples (that are open for interpretation) across a time span of >10 000 years is not enough data to come to any conclusions in regards to LGBT+ acceptance in general in ancient times. But why does it matter? Just because something wasn't accepted in ancient times doesn't mean that it shouldn't be accepted today. I'm about as straight as they come, but I don't give a f*ck what goes on between two consenting adults. But I DO get annoyed when people try to use history and archeology for social or political agendas. Thanks for reading.
I think it would be more scientifically honest to have had the graph start out at neutral, and rise with each of those ancient findings to better demonstrate the ebb and flow of everything. This graph asserts that it was fully accepted until it wasn't, when it is far more likely that it was something that was fluctuant in popularity through the ages (still mostly positive, I imagine, given the closeness of our ancestry with bonobos and chimpanzees). Great video nonetheless, the pacing is quite good for covering so much of history :)
I hope that the Neurodiverse movement can learn some lessons from the LGBTQ+ movement, we aren’t as great at mobilising just yet but we also seek society to just accept us for who we are and give us better and more access to support resources, invisible disabilities remain highly stigmatised and misunderstood, it is quite relevant since the Trans community struggles a lot with depression and suicide, mainly because of mental health stigmatisation and that is just not acceptable in a modern society. ♾ 🏳️🌈 🏳️⚧️ 🇱🇾 Comrades in arms (The last flag is a stand in for the African liberation flag since there isn’t an emoji for it)
"Let not one year pass - I now say to myself - when I do not step one significant century backward. And since there are so many full circles in a man's life, I am firmly convinced that when I have regressed as far as I can possibly go, I shall have actually arrived at a point some years in the wild future, and maybe it won't be so god-awful pure." - Harry Partch
Hello PBR. I need Ur help badly. Out of spite, I rushed coming out to my friends as bi and now some of them are acting provactive towards me. Plz help it would be very much appreciated, I am feeling uncomfortable at the moment. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
If they are acting that way, maybe they aren’t the best friends to have around. Surround yourself with people who will support you and love you unconditionally. And when you can’t find that at home or at school/work, you can always find that here at PBR.
@@PoweredByRainbows Thank you I needed that. I let peer pressure get to me and I couldn't stand up for myself and say what made me uncomfortable to them
Dude it’s still terrible in other counties! You can get killed for it or go to jail in some countries? How do you get ignorant people to stop thinking killing is ever right?
There was a family guy bit on this actually. Quote: "We will have equal rights for all. Except blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims. Uhmm...Everybody who's not a white man. And I mean white-white, so no Italians, no Polish, just people from Ireland, England, and Scotland. But only certain parts of Scotland and Ireland. Just full blooded whites. No, you know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights. Ahhh...America!"
Why was 1st September 1939 chosen? I know that's the start of WWII, but it's a bit random. Dates like 30th January 1933 or 6th May 1933 would've fit better for this topic.
I have a question. If someone what to be a transgender . How can we make sure they r transgender? Is there any test to find it out? What if they regret after they transform? How can see make it sure with clarity? Could you please answer my question or make a video about. I am really curious to know
Heyo! There’s not a test to find out if you’re transgender but you can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, but you don’t have to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria to be transgender. Most people who go through medical transitioning *are* diagnosed with gender dysphoria so they know they’ll be happier if they got surgery to transition. If you only socially transition (not “physically” transitioning) it’s much easier to de-transition if you’re not happy. Hope this helped! :)
if you yourself am struggling with gender intentity try thinking about how: you want to present, how you view yourself, how you want other people to view you and how you'd feel comfortable presenting if you presented as a different gender. Im non-binary/trans masc and if i was born a cis guy i think i would present very different and be much more comfortable than well now
I assume your asking ‘if someone wants to be a different gender to the one they were assigned at birth how do they make sure there transgender?’. If your asking for yourself just test things, maybe ask yourself these questions. Do I want people to view me as male, female or other? How to I want to view myself? What do I feel comfortable as? Ect If you prefer being a different gender to the one assigned at birth, your (most likely) trans. If you discover after transitioning that you don’t want to be that gender anymore you can always transition back but it will be (probably) difficult (unless you don’t want to). I hope this helped, if you need more questions answered or I Didn’t answer your questions just reply and I’ll try answer/correct them. :D
ww2 fact: before the night of long knives the SA leader Ernst Rohm was an openly gay man and hitlers closest friend, and hitler was an ally about it until he realised he could use his homosexuality against him. Ernst was infamously shot by hitler 2nd july 1934
I was never taught about them per say in school but I did know about them. It was mentioned and called bad and that was it. I've read the crucible since I was in 6th grade if that counts.
I support the movement but one thing I hated was when they tried to get a rainbow stripe on the poppy… I love history and them trying too do that shows they know nothing of history and how the poppy works. However I do still support them.
Is it just me or is it odd that the verse in the original Bible’s verse about how pedophilia is wrong uses the wording “boy” making it much easier to be mistranslated? Why didn’t they say “another child” that way even if it was taken literally it would still condemn straight pedophilic situations. It feels as if it was written as “boy” so it could be translated into man later
Hi. If you're doing Trajan, there was a trans Roman Emperor, Elagabalus. Dora Richter was the first MtF GRS operation, 1931, and she was killed by the Nazis (either at the Hirshfeld Institute, or in custody.)
I think that, to be accurate, you should indicate that your earliest rock art should be reckoned as ambiguous: might be gay, might not. It is really very difficult to say.
For those that didn't know, Canada had decriminalized homosexual intimacy in 1969, and fully legalized same-sex marriage across the whole country in 2005. It was legal in Ontario in 2003.
@@rileytubegaming9065 yes they can- you can walk around and see many straight people holding hands without getting side glances, but when it comes to gay people, they get a lot of looks
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in this video ,i wish u put abt transgender culture (hijras), or hope u can make a separate video abt it it would wonderful :))
538 bce biblical reference of adding death as a penalty....where did you source that information?
@@racheal2004 Yeah, hey I wasnt ASKING YOU.. I WAS ASKING THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO. DIDNT YOU READ IT?
@@pv8340 oh my bad sorry
It's surprising that there are barely any stories or records shared from global south. South Asian subcontinent for example has many historic queer stories. Same in many places in rest of the Asia, Africa and South America.
So many of the things were destroyed by imperialism and colonialism.
Yes! A lot of this video was about Christian and White history.
@@alternativetime2778 and mostly male..also there was the thing where he said gay people were treated worse than Jews..
@@alternativetime2778The other areas and ethnicities of the world have surely produced stories and records regarding their queer histories as well. It’s unlikely that their histories include much or anything about North America and Europe.
South America was always largely homophobic even today. And yes many records were destroyed but , the people now in power are str8, Christian wo/men that never cared to find it because they only care about the str8, Christian side of history which keeps being shoved down our throats since elementary school.
Of course it was going well until modern religions appeared. Not surprising at all
Yeah. I’m a gay Christian but a lot of people say I don’t exist 🙃
Tuue!.
Now THAT’s the most honest comment I’ve ever read🏳️🌈🙂🏳️🌈
Nah
@@paper_nezu7571 same lol
"NO! They were roomates! Brothers! Friends! Anything but lovers!"
History hates lovers
Me and my "roommate" agree with this.
Oh my god they were roomates
@@unirarhissa7697 -- Oh no! Not roommates!! 😱😵
I love historic roommates, especially when they were both women, never married, and often went out clubbing in mens clothes
I think it is important to remember our history. LBGTQ+ history is varied and interesting. It is important to remember LGBTQ+ history and activism began before Stonewall. My one critique is: No one was burned in the Salem witch trials. They were hanged except for Giles Corey. He was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty.
And some died in prison
More weight
Honestly being pressed is worse than being burned alive
There were some trials before the Salem witch trials that killed hundreds to thousands of women that took place in England, Scotland etc. in which women were burned at the stake. He might have been discussing specifically the Salem trials and accidentally messed up a fact, but I thought this was an interesting thing.
@@arlaux1099 madlad didn't complain and didn't plea either, just kept saying "more weight"
Seeing the super super early depictions of gay couples like the Egyptian ones honestly makes me want to write a story about 2 gay people and their love in ancient times.... I think I'll do that actually, it sounds like a fun little hobby to get started on🤔
Just don't do anchint Greek ones beacuse uhhhhh that usually involves alot of phedophilia.
@@Demicleas ah yes...."anchint"
@@simbasad2 ah yes… “Phedophilia”
@@Demicleas ah yes...... "beacuse"
@@Demicleas You have some spelling mistakes, but it doesn't matter because I still understand what you are saying.
My parents were born the year of the Stonewall Riots. The Netherlands legalized gay marriage 2 days after I was born. The US legalized gay marriage my freshman year of high school. Just to give a bit of a time reference. This is very, very recent shit. And yet progress has inched forward extremely slowly.
Fun fact: There's an openly gay K-pop idol named Go Tae-seob who uses the stage name Holland. (He chose it because the Netherlands is also called Holland and they were the first country to legalize same-sex marriage.) I'd say that he's pretty widely known within the K-pop community, though unfortunately some people just know him for being "that one gay K-pop idol," but he's more than just that; he has good music, too. His story is pretty interesting; I'd suggest reading up on him if you like K-pop or generally want to know more about him.
Thanks! Without our history, we're nothing.
Indeed
You just gave homophobes the opportunity to reply with “you are”
Look, I know how homophobes think. They’re as clear as glass
@@hiimpeyton671Guess What am i thinking i am no homo
And what does "you are'' do exactly
@@insertname1883 “thanks! Without our history, we’re nothing”
“You are”
Which is saying that we are nothing. Thought that would have been obvious
That is not true. The history of people who came before you does not have any impact on the validity of your own identity. Even if there was no history of lgbtq+ acceptance, that wouldn't mean you aren't valid and don't deserve acceptance in the present.
It's so overwhelming having knowledge about the history of LGBT. I believe they also said Philippines was LGBT friendly before the spaniards ever forced their religion, "Christianity" to us, and just imagine if that didn't happened? Will this archipelago with thousands of islands be LGBT friendly? As a gay person myself, gay people are suffering here because of mistreatment towards the community. We also have this eveil, homophobic politician named "Manny Pacquiao" and I just hopes they'll never elect him as president for this upcoming election in May, 2022 because that's pure stupidity, he doesn't think of us as human beings. I have no choice but to immigrate to one of the countries which has same-sex marriage.
stay safe please 🥺💜
Don't worry, He's best as a boxing champ, rather than a politician.
fellow filipino here! in some tribal religions (pre-colonial) they had queer gods/goddesses/deities/shamans etc. in general queer people were normalised/common and there were no stigma. though i don’t truly believe that everyone was accepting for various reasons. also i didn’t knew about manny tho
Wait what, Manny Pacquiao was homophobic?
17:06
When catching "the gay" was a lot scarier than it is now
It is still terrifying now, but if you have money in the usa or live in a country with free/affordable healthcare it is at least possible to live with it.
For those who didn’t know, Alexander Hamilton, writer of the constitution, is suspected to be Bisexual, and may have even had a relationship with John Laurens, one of his “close friends”, and even had more enthusiasm describing his love for Laurens then he did describing his own wife! And looking at letter between the two, it is pretty evident, there is a book where you can see all recovered letters
And what? How does that affect anything? This is useless rhetoric.
@@TheTrooper1878 you know scrubbing public figures of their identities to make them more comfortable for homophobes to accept and thus allowing them to further appropriate history in order to justify their own bigoted beliefs is bad right?
@@redyeti34 And again, even if he was this kind of person, how does that affect anything. This is still useless rhetoric.
@@TheTrooper1878 you really have terrible reading comprehension, so I’ll try to dumb this down for you.
Mean people like to look up to people like Alexander Hamilton, but don’t like gay people (because they’re mean) so if we make the sexuality of their hero’s easier to see, we take the mean peoples hero’s away from them, and gives them less historical figures to point to when they’re trying to be mean to people.
There, now even a 4th grader can understand what I said and how stopping the historical appropriation of queer people by bigots is good.
@@TheTrooper1878 It's not useless rethoric to investigate history, what was told and what was hidden
As an historian I loved this
The word 'an' only happens before a vowel. AEIOU. Grammatically in this case it should be 'a' .
@@timpullen4941 there are other languages that actually include h in that rule. For example, the Latin words ex and ab change depending on the letter of the next word including h. So “ego ē villā” because there isn’t a vowel or h but “ego ex hortō” because the next word starts with a vowel or h
@@timpullen4941 he's an historian, not a grammar teacher.
Interesting. Although, many "first time...." sentences might be more accurate if "as far as we currently know" where added.
Thanks for this video, im happy and proud for my self as a trans mtf
Me to.
same but as ftm
@@JestrrJack897 I’m also ftm :>
@roliuu I really hope you will get better, be safe❤️
Me too
7:16 I do wonder about the "Trajan as first gay emperor" thing, given that the Ancient Greeks assumed men could be attracted to anyone. Though that would make people like Alexander the Great, who had a documented eunuch lover, two wives, and probably-longterm-male-partner Hephaestion bisexual by our definitions, so maybe that's the distinction? Though there was that Chinese emperor who gave rise to the term "cut sleeve" for gay people when he cut off the sleeve of his robe to avoid waking up his boyfriend, and people in the court apparently thought that was super cute and started imitating him!
Thanks,now I'm sure that I'm normal,well in the past I was bullied because I was friends only with girls,but now I'm in college and I know that I'm bi and I'm sure I'm normal
"In honour of the United Kingdom's LGBTQ History Month"
*Happy British noises*
This is very informative. It doesn’t really account for any homophobic cavemen, because how would we know if they were homophobic?
very nicely edited video! i learned some stuff i didn't even know! do you have a list of sources you use for your videos?
Yes we do, all of our sources are listed in the description of each episode.
And so, just skipped over the ancient Greeks, where homosexuality was accepted and celebrated. Also, no mention at all of early Chinese and Indian societies where homosexuality was a common part of life -- right up to the level of the emperor.
Random bi guy here. While the super ancient examples like the cave paintings and such are very significant and interesting because they confirm LGBT people existed back then, it's a bit of a stretch to draw the conclusion that the whole culture was heavily accepting of them. That's like historians and archeologists of the future finding evidence of LGBT people existing in our time period and assuming that everyone in our time period was heavily accepting too. I imagine it was probably nuanced and complicated back then just like nowadays. We'll probably never know definitively though, it is called prehistory for a reason after all. Otherwise, a well made and informative video.
If that was the kind of history we were learning at school that would of been my favorite subject
I don't know why but I started tearing up watching this, it's really incredible to hear out history, and what we as a community have accomplished in all these years :')
You’ve accomplished being one of the worst groups of people on the planet for centuries. Congrats.
Literally one of the best intros ever. 💜🦄😅 "KINDA diiicks" 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously, nothing but love and support for the amazing message and work this channel produces (also the period acronyms are amazing and relief-giving.)
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
16:13 - Good to see a flag with the right color order (red at the bottom, violet at the top) like it is in the chakra system.
...the flag has literally nothing to do with the chakra system, tho
Why you forcing your spirituality on the rest of us? Right way, indeed!
@@danielcrafter9349 I am not forcing anything to anyone. It doesn't change the fact that the cabal is inverting/perverting basically everything and yes, I am a transwoman and I am able to question things!
I just want to add about the Nazi time that 1. Lesbians could get send to concentration camps, wearing a black triangle and marked as antisocial.
2. Even after the Nazi regime in Germany the law that made homosexual acts illegal wasn’t lifted. So people who were sent into jail by the Nazis still had to do their time even after Germany was in the hands of the Allies/ had their new democracy. The law remained up until 1994! (It had existed before too, but the Nazis added some parts and pushed actually imprisoning people for it)
yea, this is true. But i don't know why he said homosexuals were treated the worst, becuase they were not.
@@wannabecake1 from what I heard they were given the least amount of food and the most amount of physical work for some time. I don’t know what it looked like after the first few years when the Nazis got crueler and crueler though.
im sorry but saying gay men were treated worse than jews is just wrong.
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I'm not saying Jews weren't treated poorly, please understand me. I'm saying - yes, of course Jews were treated terrible. But gay men were discriminated against by BOTH Nazis and Jewish prisoners in concentration camps. Then on the Allies side of the war, gay men were treated terribly there too. So while sure, the Jews had it bad - at least some people were on their side. For gay men, no one was on their side, not even the Jews.
@@PoweredByRainbows am sorry that you have to respond to that Again and Again. I think3that you did well. 👋🏻
SPAIN 🇪🇸 legalized gay marriage = 2005
That had a huge impact worldwide in Europe and in all Latin America including USA.
Plato’s philosophy on love was based on same sex relationships! And it was commonly accepted during his time that Achilles and Patroclus from the Iliad were lovers.
learned so much about lgbt history in 20 mins than school will ever teach you
why would they teach us thsi crap in schools?
@@taviiancu because this crap is important.
@@taviiancu try to learn basic English first. Btw look they are kissing 🥰🥰👩❤️💋👩💏👨❤️💋👨
All of these dates should be much more well known, but I'd love a much deeper historical dive into these events.
Also maybe a less eurocentric take too.
Wow. Less than 15% of countries recognise us as equal human beings. It's better than 0, but it's still a horrible feeling!
Note: no “witches” were burned in the Salem witch trials, that was a European thing. Punishment in Salem was hanging or essentially stacking rocks on someone until they can’t breathe
1:50 - 2:02, dude, homosexuality did happen back then, we have records of it happening in the early Bible, that doesn't mean it was widely accepted back then, also that may have depicted men playing games together or hanging out, just because there are two men near each other does not mean they are supposed to be depicted as having gay intercourse. Also, if the majority of the world was gay and or "approved" being gay then the world population would be a hell of a lot less than it currently is, considering that there were only about 5 million people back then, if there was a large portion that were gay humans might not have existed today, being gay was an extreme minority of the population back then, and still is today.
First part yes, second part no. You don't know that lol. Besides, your argument bases itself on the assumption that people turn gay. India was very accepting of lgbt before the brits came and they still had a big population.
@@ckaybit dude i'm talking over 11,000 years ago, not 200, and also yes people turn gay, no one is born inherently gay, being gay comes from life experience and discovering you are who you are, and again, 11,600 years ago there were no "big populations" worldwide there were estimated to be about 5 million people. Like i said as well, being gay has ALWAYS been a minority of the population, and all major religions spanning all the way until current date say that being gay is either a sin or something you should not do or act as.
@@smwish6010 Being gay doesn't come inherently from life expierence and "discovering who you are". Its so crazy how people like you can say a flat out opinion as if its a proven fact, especially with no further explanation, sources, or reason.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 nah I mean if you can tell me a legitimate case of someone being born gay with actual proof I'll believe you, but your saying this, watching and believing this video maker's bs so please don't get into "flat out opinion...with no further explanation..." - you
Bro said Ronald Reagan was one of the worst presidents. I don't like him for his homophobia and his actions taken against drugs. But he wasn't one of the worst. That can go to Woodrow Wilson, Nixon, George W Bush, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden.
Idk why but learning about gay ancient Egyptians with their kids makes me want to cry 😢
"LgBtQ+ iSnT aPaRt Of HiStOrY"
Lgbtq+ history:
People who say that clearly don’t do research
*is literally history*
This was very interesting. I've never looked into our LGBTQ history before and it was nice to learn about, and I'm absolutely shocked that gay marriage has only been legalizd since 2015 in the US
It was lefalized here and there in some states before 2015, but because it was each state’s decision, that meant pretty much no south state had it legal. In 2015 is when it became legal at the federal level, and i remember it happening. Since then still there have been a few “protesters” in government jobs who refused to marry gay couples for “religious reasons”
Religion. No more need said.
the sentence "lesbian women [in 1933-45 Germany] were completely free to live however they wanted" (13:34) is simply untrue!!! Please look into the works of historian Claudia Schoppmann
Hi, I'm from Uruguay. I think we were the first ones in America (the continent) to recognise LGBTQ+ civil unions in 2008 and marriages in 2012, along with weed legalization, abortion and other nice things.
Though I am heterosexual, I'm proud of every person that fights in order to make a difference and makes me truly happy all the positive things that are happening.
We have to make sure to never repeat what other people did in the near past since there are A LOT of things we need to change in order to live in equity.
Love knows no gender, color or faith!!!! Peace.
No in Canada it was in 2005. And earlier than that for some provinces.
@@Coccinelf oh thank you, I did not know.
assyrian is pronounced “as-syrian”, not “as-ri-an” :)
also, the name “trajan” at the time of emperor trajan was pronounced “try-yan”
Some mfs really think there's no gay people in history
It's sad that its gay ancient history and not the history of love in ancient times. It's sad that we as humans are so ripped apart by small things. Go off king 👑
Very informative, glad I had this video recommended to me :)
as a bisexual living in a country that is mostly homophobic I am so exhausted because of the homophobics and their excuses only for their religions
Him:Gayborhoods. nobody: me:🎵Daniel Tigers Gayborhood(LOL)
The second you mentioned Mafia's buying out bars i knew it was stonewall time
"homosexual men were *by far* treated the worst during the war." 💀
no, just no. they were not.
You are welcome to your opinions.
It's true tho
"Hey, intresting thumbnail, let's watch this video"
...second 35
"...aaaaaand you lost me"
*Wow they open comment section let's see how Comment war began*
Grab 🍿🍿🍿
Sorting by newest and seeing all the brainless people making brain dead comments is my favourite hobby
We don't learn this stuff in schools so thank you for your videos. :)
Its funny to see that humans over history have varying changes in what they perceive as right or wrong
Really surprising how something can be right, then wrong, then right again
Okay, let's try this again. As someone who has studied history, a lot, this video is incredibly condescending, you're drawing extremely broad, overarching conclusions with very thin evidence, and some of the stuff you're just making up, because I can't find one credible source that supports you. It's faux-academia, it's wrong, and it's disgusting.
I assure you everything we say in the video is 100% accurate. We list all of our sources in the description of the episode as we do with all episodes. Sorry you have this opinion and sorry you felt this way.
@@PoweredByRainbows Wow, that was a very quick, respectful, and kind reply. Thank you to the whole team. I really appreciate. However, that's also not true, because I read all of the sources cited in the description. There wasn't a single source arguing some phantom changes were made to outlaw gay sexual activity under penalty of death in the Biblical book of Leviticus in 538 B.C.E., (and nobody really can conjecture about it confidently, because there's no evidence of it).
The presenter claims the ancient Romans legalized same-sex marriage in 27 B.C.E., but that's also not true. I could not find any of the sources you cited claiming it was true, but I will admit I didn't look extremely thoroughly for it, so one sentence about it may have been thrown into one of the articles. The truth is that Roman law never recognized same-sex marriages, because Roman marriages had a religious significance, similarly to how modern day marriages do. It wasn't that uncommon to see people in some kind of same-sex union of sorts, but (much like how LGBT activist spot hard for gay marriage in the United States, because civil unions and marriages are NOT THE SAME THING) these Roman same sex unions were not marriages. You could say they might be something like concubines, but they weren't married.
The presenter claims there were revisions made to the Catholic Bible during the Wycliffe translations, made around 1382 C.E., which somehow changed the meaning of the text from condemning pedophilia to condemning homosexuality, and that these revisions had a huge, long-lasting impact on the way Europeans viewed gay relationships up until this day. Not a single one of your cited sources makes that claim, and-much like the previous claim- it's not true.
I'll also point out that you guys misrepresented the Navajo and Lakota ideas of two or five spirited individuals, and combine them with the non-gendered Cherokee language in order to support this idea that native Americans believed in the modern idea of a gender spectrum as we know it today, but one of your sources did say the same thing and that's an idea that a lot of people have just taken and run with so I really can't fault your team above anybody else.
Anyway, I hope that helped to clear up any confusion and I look forward to seeing what you all have in store in the future!
I thought the “straight white men bad” bit was satire but damn little did I know I’m a homophobic nazi. My bad
For the record, Spain is actually the third country in the world to legalize same sex marriage the 2 of July 2005 and homosexuality was decriminalized the 26 of December 1978
In regards to the burial traditions you mentioned at 2:48 it's important to remember that people do NOT bury themselves. Burial traditions are not easy to interpret and one could just as easily interpret that particular burial in different ways. Perhaps they buried a man as a woman as a final insult to a dead person they didn't like? Perhaps the person was an eunuck/slave and thus not considered fully a man and therefore buried as a woman? Or perhaps the direction had some other religious or cultural significance that we will never know of? If we truly wish to understand ancient peoples we should be careful not to superimpose our modern cultural norms and values on ancient cultures.
In regards to examples of homosexual relationships among the royalty; I don't think that says anything about whether or not homosexuality was accepted in society as a whole, even if the examples listed are true and accurate. Societal elites are well known throughout history for being able to do things that were not acceptable for the common plebs to do, including murder, theft, heresy, divorce etc. It does not mean that those things were socially accepted, it just means that those particular individuals were powerful enough that no one could stop them from doing what they wanted.
It's also worth remembering that the world in ancient times was not as interconnected as the world is today and it's possible that LGBT+ stuff was accepted in one village but not in the next. A few scattered examples (that are open for interpretation) across a time span of >10 000 years is not enough data to come to any conclusions in regards to LGBT+ acceptance in general in ancient times. But why does it matter? Just because something wasn't accepted in ancient times doesn't mean that it shouldn't be accepted today.
I'm about as straight as they come, but I don't give a f*ck what goes on between two consenting adults. But I DO get annoyed when people try to use history and archeology for social or political agendas.
Thanks for reading.
"the agenda"
I cant believe you made a whole video about gay history and didn't include Sapho a very important saphic poet
I think it would be more scientifically honest to have had the graph start out at neutral, and rise with each of those ancient findings to better demonstrate the ebb and flow of everything. This graph asserts that it was fully accepted until it wasn't, when it is far more likely that it was something that was fluctuant in popularity through the ages (still mostly positive, I imagine, given the closeness of our ancestry with bonobos and chimpanzees).
Great video nonetheless, the pacing is quite good for covering so much of history :)
Absolutely amazing video! Subscribed.
I hope that the Neurodiverse movement can learn some lessons from the LGBTQ+ movement, we aren’t as great at mobilising just yet but we also seek society to just accept us for who we are and give us better and more access to support resources, invisible disabilities remain highly stigmatised and misunderstood, it is quite relevant since the Trans community struggles a lot with depression and suicide, mainly because of mental health stigmatisation and that is just not acceptable in a modern society.
♾ 🏳️🌈 🏳️⚧️ 🇱🇾 Comrades in arms
(The last flag is a stand in for the African liberation flag since there isn’t an emoji for it)
4:25 that's so sweet. I wish I could find love like that.
This was such a rollercoaster to watch♥️🧡💛💚💙💜
"Let not one year pass - I now say to myself - when I do not step one significant century backward. And since there are so many full circles in a man's life, I am firmly convinced that when I have regressed as far as I can possibly go, I shall have actually arrived at a point some years in the wild future, and maybe it won't be so god-awful pure."
- Harry Partch
One has to wonder what an alternate reality would look like, where the critical moments in history that lead to this outcome never happened
Hello PBR. I need Ur help badly. Out of spite, I rushed coming out to my friends as bi and now some of them are acting provactive towards me. Plz help it would be very much appreciated, I am feeling uncomfortable at the moment. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
If they are acting that way, maybe they aren’t the best friends to have around. Surround yourself with people who will support you and love you unconditionally. And when you can’t find that at home or at school/work, you can always find that here at PBR.
@@PoweredByRainbows Thank you I needed that. I let peer pressure get to me and I couldn't stand up for myself and say what made me uncomfortable to them
@Sumfkn Bunny im sorry you had that experience. if you need someone to talk to, you can try the comments section of "The New Gayborhood".
Another fun moment in queer history is that the man who invented what we know as computers today, Alex Turing, was gay!
That's practically common knowledge. Don't you have anything lesser known and interesting?
Actually, it was Trajan's successor, Hadrian, who was gay. Trajan was not.
Yes
Actually they were both pretty gay and we have videos on both of them on this channel.
@@PoweredByRainbows 👍
@@PoweredByRainbows ah, ok
so basically humans are fundamentally moral and accepting of all things
Dude it’s still terrible in other counties! You can get killed for it or go to jail in some countries? How do you get ignorant people to stop thinking killing is ever right?
historians be like "these were very good friends"
"they weren't gay they were just friends"
-historians, maybe
Thanks for this video! 💙
17:16
"one of the worst US presidents Ronald Reagon"
James Buchanon and Andrew Johnson: "am I a joke to you"
Reagan was worse than both of those people combined.
America in 1776: Ah yes, freedom for "all"*
*literally everybody that was not a straight white male: b r u h
There was a family guy bit on this actually. Quote: "We will have equal rights for all. Except blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims. Uhmm...Everybody who's not a white man. And I mean white-white, so no Italians, no Polish, just people from Ireland, England, and Scotland. But only certain parts of Scotland and Ireland. Just full blooded whites. No, you know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights. Ahhh...America!"
Why was 1st September 1939 chosen? I know that's the start of WWII, but it's a bit random. Dates like 30th January 1933 or 6th May 1933 would've fit better for this topic.
I have a question. If someone what to be a transgender . How can we make sure they r transgender? Is there any test to find it out? What if they regret after they transform? How can see make it sure with clarity? Could you please answer my question or make a video about. I am really curious to know
There is no test to figure out your gender, you just know, no one else will tell you that you're trans.
you DONT choose to be trans, you just find out what youre comfortable in
Heyo! There’s not a test to find out if you’re transgender but you can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, but you don’t have to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria to be transgender. Most people who go through medical transitioning *are* diagnosed with gender dysphoria so they know they’ll be happier if they got surgery to transition. If you only socially transition (not “physically” transitioning) it’s much easier to de-transition if you’re not happy. Hope this helped! :)
if you yourself am struggling with gender intentity try thinking about how: you want to present, how you view yourself, how you want other people to view you and how you'd feel comfortable presenting if you presented as a different gender.
Im non-binary/trans masc and if i was born a cis guy i think i would present very different and be much more comfortable than well now
I assume your asking ‘if someone wants to be a different gender to the one they were assigned at birth how do they make sure there transgender?’. If your asking for yourself just test things, maybe ask yourself these questions.
Do I want people to view me as male, female or other?
How to I want to view myself?
What do I feel comfortable as?
Ect
If you prefer being a different gender to the one assigned at birth, your (most likely) trans.
If you discover after transitioning that you don’t want to be that gender anymore you can always transition back but it will be (probably) difficult (unless you don’t want to).
I hope this helped, if you need more questions answered or I Didn’t answer your questions just reply and I’ll try answer/correct them. :D
These recommendations ಠ_ಠ
1973 Silvia Rivera speech was a pretty monumental part of our history
you missed the legal codes of hanmubari, which indicate the first instance of homophobia in a society
when cavemen draw better than you
ww2 fact: before the night of long knives the SA leader Ernst Rohm was an openly gay man and hitlers closest friend, and hitler was an ally about it until he realised he could use his homosexuality against him. Ernst was infamously shot by hitler 2nd july 1934
6:07 how do you know this time period? Did they have a written tablet because as far as I know Native American written texts were few and far between
Its more like around this time like if i say the brichorisord was a animal living 75 000 year ago. Hope its Help.
Am I the only one here who never learned about the Salem Witch Trials?
I was never taught about them per say in school but I did know about them.
It was mentioned and called bad and that was it.
I've read the crucible since I was in 6th grade if that counts.
You open the video talking about people erasing parts of history they don't like, then you pull the BCE/CE crap like really
What?
@@PoweredByRainbows you're being a hypocrite. Ignoring the life of Jesus is erasing a part of history you don't like
@@jukeboxjacobw Jesus was gay so why would we overlook him? ua-cam.com/video/7RZ07nJKS4U/v-deo.htmlsi=nvUPn3zTH1B1Pal5
"Roman emperor Tragien"
I support the movement but one thing I hated was when they tried to get a rainbow stripe on the poppy… I love history and them trying too do that shows they know nothing of history and how the poppy works. However I do still support them.
Wasn’t the sign that said “lips that touch liquor shall not touch ours” about the temperance movement?
the spanish inquisition was active up unto the 1800s
Why in Hades was this on me recommended list?
Is it just me or is it odd that the verse in the original Bible’s verse about how pedophilia is wrong uses the wording “boy” making it much easier to be mistranslated? Why didn’t they say “another child” that way even if it was taken literally it would still condemn straight pedophilic situations. It feels as if it was written as “boy” so it could be translated into man later
Well, Gender equality never existed during that time, And also it may have been legal to marry a young girl at the age of 13 or 16.
@@hwaitboii8346 I see, it was a way of looking like they forbade pedophilia while getting away on a technicality
@@hwaitboii8346 That's because life expectancy at birth was a brief 25 years during the Roman Empire.
As of 2022, Chile is the newest country to legalize gay marriage, and Switzerland will soon follow
Hi. If you're doing Trajan, there was a trans Roman Emperor, Elagabalus. Dora Richter was the first MtF GRS operation, 1931, and she was killed by the Nazis (either at the Hirshfeld Institute, or in custody.)
If I start getting recommended gay stuff for watching this ima be sad. Commenting probably doesn’t help either lol
I think that, to be accurate, you should indicate that your earliest rock art should be reckoned as ambiguous: might be gay, might not. It is really very difficult to say.
I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE:
gay john oliver
(edit) just to be clear thats a compliment
17:30 Bruh, my love for the Netherlands just keeps being reinforced everywhere I look!
For those that didn't know, Canada had decriminalized homosexual intimacy in 1969, and fully legalized same-sex marriage across the whole country in 2005. It was legal in Ontario in 2003.
That's fantastic to hear, thank you for sharing!
Wait so does that mean while same-sex marriage is legal, couples can’t show intimacy in public?
@@black369ace7 straight couples can't show intimacy in public either
@@rileytubegaming9065 yes they can- you can walk around and see many straight people holding hands without getting side glances, but when it comes to gay people, they get a lot of looks
@@atlastherando8928 are we talking about the same thing lmao, I'm talking about sex.
This was super informative, thank you so much :)