Some of the places described here are- Royal Tiger Imports J&G sales AIM Surplus Old Western Scrounger What a Country Indianapolis Ordnance Sarco Parts Centerfire Systems Note: Since the posting of the video, some places have sold out or gone up in price. Update: 3/11/2024 the M57s on Old Western Scrounger are under 300 but they don’t come with a mag. Some more expensive ones on their site come with a mag.
@@og_tokyo Yup, me too, at around the same time. The old timers said the supply had dried up and it wasn't like the old days. But looking back it was still pretty good, places like AIM still had a lot of interesting things. I'm not really buying anymore but I still go out to their website now and then.
Royal Tiger has always done right by me. A little bit slow on shipping and customer service for one of the orders I made a couple years ago wasn’t great… but their pricing, availability, and quality is really good!
My neighbor tried to sell me a Chinese SKS for $750 last week. I’m not very old but I do remember when big 5 sold them for $70 - $90. Missed that boat lol
I bought a Chinese SKS in 1985. Out the door with 100 rounds of cheap Chinese Ammo for $69. Had to disassemble the entire gun and soak the barrel and action in kerosene for a week to get the dried up old Cosmoline off of it. Mil Surp used to be a good buy, but now, the vast majority are priced so high it's gone past ridiculous. Why buy a 100 year old rifle, at an artificially inflated price in often calibers that are equally overpriced, when you can get a modern bolt action, with a decent scope for less, in a caliber that's typically more available and usually less expensive? There's a reason the vast majority of these guns have been sitting in government ordinance dumps for 60 to 100 years. I can understand the Militaria Collector mentality, but the These Guns Are Good SHTF Optional Battle Rifle mentality is illogical.
Man i remember back in 1865 i could buy a Colt Dragoon for $15 and all the ammo my mule could carry for a bottle of whiskey and a chaw of tobacco. The good old days. Maybe some comments about where the best prices are in 2024 would be a little more helpful than, once upon a time i bought.... But for the record, once upon a time i bought a 69 Z28 for$500 , my buddy bought a mint 66 GTO for $800 , and my favorite...i bought a 72 Chevelle for $50 because the guy thought he spun a crank bearing but it turned out to be a collapsed lifter.
I bought a crate of ten SKS's back in the mid 90s. They were all unfired condition stored in cosmo, all matching serial numbers, and each one a sequential serial number to the next. I paid 750$ with a 1000 rds of 762. Crazy how prices change. I could near get that much for one of those rifles now.
Back around 1985 I bought a beautiful Enfield No.4 Mk1, built before the war and refurbed in India in 1965. It was $69 at Big 5 Sporting Goods in Santa Barbara CA. A very nice straight shooting rifle!
I bought my mosin m44 carbine (Ishevsk) with side folding bayonet back in the day for $59. Absolutely packed with cosmoline, refurbished in Russia. When it was finally free of cosmoline, the barrel looked new. I think the Czech ammo was $100 for a case of 880. Good times.
I recently bought an Ishevsk carbine as well, and compared to gunbroker prices I feel good about it. Had full rifling, no cosmoline, and no DIY butchering. All in all paid $245 for the rifle plus 200 rounds of non-corrosive ammo. Saw it in a small town gun shop and picked it up the next day 😂😂
Oh yes! I had a C&R back in the day and Southern Ohio Gun had a sale on 91/30's $45 apiece or $55 for hex receivers, free shipping. I bought 10 of them, totally soaked in cosmoline as you say. I still have 8 of them. I gave two away to friends.
I used to buy an SKS for $99 and I got a free 1440rd case of Chinese steel-core 7,62x39 on stripper clips, now that was cheap. I do know those days are gone and not coming back
Good video. I think the future of surplus firearms will shift from the dwindling WWII supply to more modern police surplus. A few years ago an Italian law enforcement agency sold off all their old Beretta 32 acp and 380 acp pistols for $200--300. I got a model 82 in great condition. Also, C&R means at least 50 years old so lots of modern firearms including ARs are becoming C&R and attractive to surplus collectors.
Thing is those C&R ARs aren’t exactly cheap. The days of cheap military surplus are over. Freaky I doubt we’ll see much military surplus other than handguns and the occasional parts kits ever again.
@@jagx234 I mean this entire video is about the last of the cheap milsurps. The low price is also why many people first got into the hobby, at least long ago.
I love my Carcano. It’s the only milsurp I own and the only gun I own my wife likes. I had an SKS I traded stupidly for a PS4 when they first came out, that was a mistake…
I got late in the milsurp about six years ago. Glad the timing was not a total miss. Got a few added to the collection just in time. This is a very slim list.
That was roughly(maybe two years earlier?) the same time for me. picked up two mosins and a yugo m57 Tokarev. I think under 500 total for all 3 at the time. Kind of wish I could go back and buy cases and crates now. On the flip side my 1939 mosin is incredibly cleaned up and looks fantastic. It is a head turner at the range for sure.
I stopped going to gun shows when 100 dollar crowbars were selling for 800 dollars. And if I need T-shirts scented candles, jewelry or windows I can probably get all or some at Walmart or target
I had just turned 18 in Phoenix in the 90s there was a store around the corner from my house that had 3(!) russian sks for $300 or 150$ for 1 rifle. If you got all 3 they added 1000rnds of chinese 762x39. I try not to think about it these days or i cry😂
I just talked to my old boss the other day he had a FFL but got out of the Business years ago but atf gives you ways you can sell old inventory. We are now thinking about pulling out old inventory of surplus firearms we got in in the early 2000s it was originally put aside because we wanted to collect. but the prices are so nuts we really thinking about selling a few
Thats kind of a shady area. They were bought by and for a business, not a private individual. I would definitely contact a lawyer thats familiar with gun laws.@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
I bought a sks for $70 and a mosin for $100. Everything has gotten more expensive. We need to take back the checkbook from the spoiled rotten government.
25 years ago I bought a never issued like new Mosin nagant with a hex receiver made in 1934 complete in the original soviet crate with everything in it for 89.99, best 90 bucks I ever spent.
All matching never issued, looked like it'd never been fired, got an all matching Kar98k in the same condition made in Berlin in 42, SS stamp on it, guns like that were everywhere 20-30 years ago.
I remember $25 SKS rifles. They were wrapped in plastic and bathed in grease that took a while to clean but cheap. The old bolt actions were $15 . The early 80s were great for cheap guns. The AR-15 full auto conversion was $19.95 but nobody wanted them because people thought AR's were crap.
I love historical firearms. I used to do Civil War Cavalry reenacting. People would ask me about the weapons I carried. I would always tell them, "they are as deadly today as they were then."
German 1888 comission rifle. P. Mauser had nothing to do with it, but because of the later Mauser 98 in the same calliber, they are coloquially known as 1888 Mauser.
I do too. About 13 years ago, I saw the big five ad with 99.00 mosins. Went to the local store and the clerk said they were sold out. I ended up walking out with a single shot Rossi 410 for 118.00. Time’s change.
Cz82 and cz83 are seriously slept on guns. I suggest getting an 18lb recoil spring replacement to keep your brass in the same state and reducing recoil. Drop safe and ambidextrous features, polygonal barrel lasts longer too!
Never heard your interesting pronunciation of Carcano before. Not saying it's wrong , just never heard it pronounced that way. By the way how do you pronounce Mozin? Anyway ,thanks for your list ,it gives great suggestions to look at.
Honestly milsurps should be going back down..why buy an sks that goes for $600 -800 when you can buy an AR or an AK for that price..The milsurps being priced like they are makes zero sense..Honestly its just greed..
I just posted a video actually about my M91 Truppe Speciali from Royal Tiger Imports; I’m pleased; paid the extra $50 to ensure it was a “Beretta Gardone” stamped one that has a cleaning rod. They didn’t send the clip with it, but they made things right, so can’t complain.
Surplus firearms should be boycotted until prices come down. Also with our nation tumbling towards civil war, it would be best to invest in a AK or AR platform
Yea that saying is a common sales gimmick! Only partially true imo. Some people wish they would’ve spent the money back then to get the ones that were imported and cheaply priced because as time went on, they’ve went up in value on average. I’ve already built some modern stuff but cost way more than $400
i seen a mosin nagant being sold for $1,500 these gun owners nowadays smoke so much crack they think the older then gun is the more it's worth and i would understand if it was new in the box but these look so beat up and used like wtf 😂
lol yea I’ve seen some Mosin M91/30s still go for around 1k. IMO they aren’t worth anything more than 550. I’ve seen a lot of places have them for 400 or even less than that
good info, better than so many others! yes, I liked and subscribed. Hope to see more great content! BTW, you could be hazardous to my wallet - yes, I have been warned.......
Unfortunate that Nagant revolvers no longer make a list like this. I remember when you could get them - with holster and cleaning kit - in immaculate condition for well under two bills. Wasn't that long ago, actually. To get even more extreme, I still remember when milsurps were practically being given away to good homes back in the 80s (I exaggerate, but not by much) - literal crates of Mosins, like-new British Enfields, the list went on and on. And if you were OK with sporterized, they nearly *were* free. So I honestly can't wrap my head around ANY of this. As much as I enjoy UA-cam, I can't help but think all the "Mosins Actually Rule!" videos over the years had more than a little something to do with this.
@BattlefieldCurator I get it, my dad was an FFL in the 80's and gunshow deals and pawn shop finds etc were great during the years I've been buying. I should do a video saying that I used to buy SKSs for $10. I only have 343 subs, but I bet at least 1 person would claim to have bought them for $5 🤓
I keep trying to talk myself into buying a couple just because they're cheap and maybe someday they will skyrocket like the Mosin. But they're just so ugly, there's no ammo, and the cheap ones currently available are in shit condition
What made the M16 Berthier sporterized at the end? I have one, that looks very similar from a quick glance, and now I am wondering if I should be looking on mine for something.
I had one in the 1970s, 29.00 came with a 30 caliber ammo can full of bulk ammo 6.5, better off for emotion of the better off wy Russian garbage ride, or a Savage Marlin SKS muzzleloader
I'm now 64 years old, that's gotta be twice your age, and I remember when in my 20's I could find mausers and nagants for less than $100, about $80. There was one place near me that had Garands for only $300 and m1 carbines for a scant $169. Surplus ammo for all was abundant and I actually ordered alot from jg sales which has been in business for decades. Grabted alot of the rifles had the rifling pretty well shot out and where worn and abused, but all were still functional. Now the cheapest in worse shape mosin or mauser cost as much or more than some ar 15's. As much as I like and respect old ww2 weapons there's no way I'll pay that kinda money for one
Buying an Sks from big 5 or some company advertising in Shotgun news for $180 or a M1 Garand for $350 was the most affordable and practical rifles to get into wild boar hunting here in northern California when i was in highschool, they are solid and ugly, a true workhorses really, now they are mostly way to expensive for what they are
I remember I bought my Mosin Nagant with my first paycheck back about 15 years ago for $118. Now I look at the prices people want on gunbroker and laugh 😂
the problem with saying a gun is cheap or in this price range on youtube is that all the predatory re sellers go buy em all up with in a day or two in fact it it was only 7 or 8 years ago yt had to step in because gun tubers were saying oh jonny b's gunshop has these x99.99 but you get to the site and all the x99.99 models were gone and all that was left was the 500 dollar model cant remember exactly what rule yt implemented to combat this type on theyre site but it stopped over night and the yt gun community was better for it
I recently bought a surplus No. 1 Mk. III in very good condition for the equivalent of US$75. And there are about 30 SMLE variants in store between US$40 and US$100 equivalent. Some nicely sporterised and some virtually mint and stock configuration.
The BUL Cherokee is an almost part for part copy of the Tanfoglio/EAA Witness pistols. Never owned a BUL but I had a Witness compact in 9mm and it was a good little shooter. It was the first CCW pistol I bought when I turned 21, trigger was a little mushy in DA, but the SA pull was more than adequate, and the gun shot good groups with good ammo, with shit ammo it tended low right. Definitely regret getting rid of that little gun. If the BUL's are as good as the Witness that they copy, they'll be good guns.
I been in this hobby siince 2005. I could get a mint romanian sks for $250 and a mint yugo mauser for same price back then. A nagant ran $100-150 mint and i got a steal on a DOT 1944 KAR98k for $120. Now so many people are in this hobby the prices suck and many places have closed down. Its simply long past the pentacle of this hobby. I can tell you I think J&G bought the nagant batch from an old friend of mine that passed away, probably an estate sale. He had easily a few thousand nagants and thats all he collected, his wife was left to sell them off. I sure miss the days of buying from Southern Ohio Gun or Century when they had the biggest inventory. Times have sadly changed and also many people on auctions will not honor a 03 FFL.
Cool list & cool guns.like & subscribed. Love all of them.rarely met a gun I didn’t like.Doubt I’m alone here.!???.S&W simi auto LE trade ins a while back were a killer deal. I’m more into saving than spending right now. PS. I could go the rest of my life without seeing another optics ready polymer pistol and be fine with that!
I want to know if people are actually paying these absurd amounts for these guns. Are people really paying $600 for a Chinese SKS or $400-1000+ for a Nagant?
I would say that I’ve seen the SKS Type 56 sell for around $500 in my area. I saw a Mosin M91/30 sell for $300 last year and a M91 sell for $400 this year. Those were in South Carolina and Georgia.
Once real surplus ammo dried up and new manufactured ammo went to $16-$20 a box for really anything.. buying surplus doesn’t hold water anymore.. a new bolt gun for $400 or less is a much better deal… if shooting/using is your deal..
I’m too late for cheap Mausers but I am trying to take advantage of the glocks and kits and Carcanos and stuff. Just got to capitalize on what you can get
I bought a Israeli Bul Cherokee..from old Western scrounger.. 300 bucks ..9mm 17rd ..it's my EDC.. also bought Jericho 941 from Mosin crate..for 350.00
Depends on origin and condition. Russian ones are the rare ones. Chinese ones start at like 350-400 and go from there. Alot of SKS value is lost if it doesnt come with its original wood stock or its bayonet. Also, the variants that take magazines from the factory are worth more for sure.
Found a "Used" Zastava M57A (TT33) at a pawn shop for $300 out the door. It was brand new. Whoever bought it I guess shot a mag through it and didn't like it? Idk it had pretty much no wear on it and still had a lot of the original grease on it, also had the original packaging and bits. Chrome version, so it always caught peoples eye any time I'd take it out.
The 1916 spanish mauser converted to 7.62 nato are still 300 and under. The ones still chambered 7mm mauser 1916s are about 350. Bowman arms has cheap parts kits
Yeah I came in late to the game and it sucks, can't believe I'm thinking of getting an m16A1 kit for 750. Any experience with the ones from Atlantic firearms?
No sorry, I did not get one from Atlantic. I get mine from What-a-Country. I analyzed the pros and cons of Atlantic, Apex parts, and What A Country… What a Country was the winner! ua-cam.com/video/v_la4qkTJBg/v-deo.htmlsi=9_vuAzxYEX6LyTuK
Good presentation. And I just bought a Yugo M48A for $319 - a bit over your $300 mark but close enough. I was really glad to find it. I thought they were all gone from the online retailers.
@@BattlefieldCurator As a follow up - I received my Yugo from Centerfire Systems - all matching numbers (surprise) - def has seen action and the bore was a sewer pipe - reminded me of the Turk Mauser 39's back in the day... I have been able to clean it though - and the bore is starting to look good. Thankfully, because this is a shooter.
I cut up a beautiful one about 8 years ago to make a 45 win mag. It has a 1.25" dia 25" long barrel with a 30 carbine mag stuck up through the floorplate. The stock wast quite wide enough for a barrel channel, so it's just cut off at the front of the receiver.
@@BattlefieldCurator I think it will thanks. One thing I do if the accuracy is off is to freshen up the crown with a 45 degree chamfering tool with pilot. I've found that works wonders on old milsurps. So many have the rifling terminus worn on one side usually from the cleaning rod being used improperly.
I’m up in Canada, I’ve got a carcano calvary carbine and they are pretty slick if you get a nice one. Good round and the rifle is nice and small, light weight.
My first hunting rifle in 1972 was a 7.35 Terni/Carcano and I took my first deer with it and my uncle took his first deer with the same rifle years before.
That’s pretty awesome. Every time I have taken out my 7.35 Carcano, I haven’t seen a deer. The milsurps in my collection that have taken a deer were the M1 Carbine and my son used a Spoerterized No4 Mk1*. I really want to try again next year with the Carcano in 7.35, it’s such a light, short and handy rifle.
I've got a Polish underfolder semi-auto AK receiver I've never done anything with. I see whatacountry has polish underfolder parts kits. Not under $300, but if I can dig that receiver out of the parts bin it may be time to build something up out of it.
In regards to the bul cherokee, they have new ones for sale around 350 or less at times, i have the compact and full size. The single action is pretty good but the double action is really spongy with a delayed hammer release if you try to stage the trigger. I love this gun but i bought the new one, i havent bought the old ones.
Some of the places described here are-
Royal Tiger Imports
J&G sales
AIM Surplus
Old Western Scrounger
What a Country
Indianapolis Ordnance
Sarco Parts
Centerfire Systems
Note: Since the posting of the video, some places have sold out or gone up in price.
Update: 3/11/2024 the M57s on Old Western Scrounger are under 300 but they don’t come with a mag. Some more expensive ones on their site come with a mag.
I miss Southern Ohio Gun. They had good stuff at good prices a few years back.
shit, I got so many C&R rifles off aims surplus around 2010.
@@og_tokyo Yup, me too, at around the same time. The old timers said the supply had dried up and it wasn't like the old days. But looking back it was still pretty good, places like AIM still had a lot of interesting things. I'm not really buying anymore but I still go out to their website now and then.
Royal Tiger has always done right by me. A little bit slow on shipping and customer service for one of the orders I made a couple years ago wasn’t great… but their pricing, availability, and quality is really good!
My neighbor tried to sell me a Chinese SKS for $750 last week. I’m not very old but I do remember when big 5 sold them for $70 - $90. Missed that boat lol
Yea $750 is over fair value imo
For a solid Russian sks it would be ok. A good type 56 sks with everything matching $500-$600.
I bought a Chinese SKS in 1985. Out the door with 100 rounds of cheap Chinese Ammo for $69. Had to disassemble the entire gun and soak the barrel and action in kerosene for a week to get the dried up old Cosmoline off of it.
Mil Surp used to be a good buy, but now, the vast majority are priced so high it's gone past ridiculous. Why buy a 100 year old rifle, at an artificially inflated price in often calibers that are equally overpriced, when you can get a modern bolt action, with a decent scope for less, in a caliber that's typically more available and usually less expensive?
There's a reason the vast majority of these guns have been sitting in government ordinance dumps for 60 to 100 years. I can understand the Militaria Collector mentality, but the These Guns Are Good SHTF Optional Battle Rifle mentality is illogical.
I just got one for $200
I got mine for 480$
This dude looks like he’s about to tell me another settlement needs my help.
You did this poor man dirty bro 😂
You killed him bro!
He reminds me of a cross between Brandon Herrera and Adam Baldwin.
He's the guy you talk to for your next story mission
I am dead bro ! Laughing my head off - you aint wrong. Where is that settlement on the map !
Remember when mosin nagant 91's were sold out of trash cans in gun stores for $50 and a case of 440/rounds was $75? Good times...
Not any more
@@haroldbell213 I blame UA-cam.
I remember seeing guys that bought a crate of mosins and replaced the top with glass to make a coffee table
@@trollcare3311blame Obama banning tons of imports. We can't even reimport the M1 garands we built here and sent to Korea.
Think of all the "cheap" guns destroyed in gun buy backs in the past. 😢
Man i remember back in 1865 i could buy a Colt Dragoon for $15 and all the ammo my mule could carry for a bottle of whiskey and a chaw of tobacco. The good old days. Maybe some comments about where the best prices are in 2024 would be a little more helpful than, once upon a time i bought....
But for the record, once upon a time i bought a 69 Z28 for$500 , my buddy bought a mint 66 GTO for $800 , and my favorite...i bought a 72 Chevelle for $50 because the guy thought he spun a crank bearing but it turned out to be a collapsed lifter.
😂
Man, you're stinking old!
I bought a crate of ten SKS's back in the mid 90s. They were all unfired condition stored in cosmo, all matching serial numbers, and each one a sequential serial number to the next. I paid 750$ with a 1000 rds of 762. Crazy how prices change. I could near get that much for one of those rifles now.
Jesus Christ dude, you could arm all your neighbors 😂; must be nice
Ok boomer
Back around 1985 I bought a beautiful Enfield No.4 Mk1, built before the war and refurbed in India in 1965. It was $69 at Big 5 Sporting Goods in Santa Barbara CA. A very nice straight shooting rifle!
I bought my mosin m44 carbine (Ishevsk) with side folding bayonet back in the day for $59. Absolutely packed with cosmoline, refurbished in Russia. When it was finally free of cosmoline, the barrel looked new. I think the Czech ammo was $100 for a case of 880. Good times.
I recently bought an Ishevsk carbine as well, and compared to gunbroker prices I feel good about it. Had full rifling, no cosmoline, and no DIY butchering. All in all paid $245 for the rifle plus 200 rounds of non-corrosive ammo. Saw it in a small town gun shop and picked it up the next day 😂😂
That m44 is an absolute thunderbolt and with even basic ammo will penetrate serious steel plate. That was a good rifle I had one for years.
Oh yes! I had a C&R back in the day and Southern Ohio Gun had a sale on 91/30's $45 apiece or $55 for hex receivers, free shipping. I bought 10 of them, totally soaked in cosmoline as you say. I still have 8 of them. I gave two away to friends.
I just love the M44.. Got a kick but that's Ok. I see them for around 700 bucks if in really good shape.
@@gavingreene13that's an absolute steal if you actually paid that
I used to buy an SKS for $99 and I got a free 1440rd case of Chinese steel-core 7,62x39 on stripper clips, now that was cheap. I do know those days are gone and not coming back
You’d be surprised how quickly those days can come back.
Good video. I think the future of surplus firearms will shift from the dwindling WWII supply to more modern police surplus. A few years ago an Italian law enforcement agency sold off all their old Beretta 32 acp and 380 acp pistols for $200--300. I got a model 82 in great condition. Also, C&R means at least 50 years old so lots of modern firearms including ARs are becoming C&R and attractive to surplus collectors.
Yea I’m definitely seeing a lot of those police surplus guns as of the last year over military surplus
Thing is those C&R ARs aren’t exactly cheap.
The days of cheap military surplus are over. Freaky I doubt we’ll see much military surplus other than handguns and the occasional parts kits ever again.
@huntersmith761 yeah, they're actually quite a bit more expensive than new ones. C&R =/= inexpensive or easier to find/get
Edit: Swype fail
@@jagx234 I mean this entire video is about the last of the cheap milsurps. The low price is also why many people first got into the hobby, at least long ago.
I love my Carcano. It’s the only milsurp I own and the only gun I own my wife likes. I had an SKS I traded stupidly for a PS4 when they first came out, that was a mistake…
What caliber is that rifle?
@@ronnygilmore65586.5x52… it’s kinda hard to find the ammo for it but you can find PPU ammo that works pretty well in it.
Ouch! Well glad you and your wife enjoy the Carcano! Steinel ammo very well made and accurate shooting loads.
@@ronnygilmore6558 6.5×52mm Carcano
you traded an sks rifle for a a fuckin playstation? Thats not ok to even consider😂
I got late in the milsurp about six years ago. Glad the timing was not a total miss. Got a few added to the collection just in time. This is a very slim list.
Nice!
That was roughly(maybe two years earlier?) the same time for me. picked up two mosins and a yugo m57 Tokarev. I think under 500 total for all 3 at the time. Kind of wish I could go back and buy cases and crates now. On the flip side my 1939 mosin is incredibly cleaned up and looks fantastic. It is a head turner at the range for sure.
Ad says : 1942 Carcano...never fired. Dropped only once.
Having cheep surplus weapons means nothing if you cant get cheap surplus ammo.
I stopped going to gun shows when 100 dollar crowbars were selling for 800 dollars. And if I need T-shirts scented candles, jewelry or windows I can probably get all or some at Walmart or target
I had just turned 18 in Phoenix in the 90s there was a store around the corner from my house that had 3(!) russian sks for $300 or 150$ for 1 rifle.
If you got all 3 they added 1000rnds of chinese 762x39.
I try not to think about it these days or i cry😂
Lol
you're making me cry by proxy
I had a Romanian Tokarev and I loved that thing. It was my carry piece for a long time
Nice!
I haven't seen one in a long time
Nice find
I also recommend the pm63 kits. Going for less than $200
I just talked to my old boss the other day he had a FFL but got out of the Business years ago but atf gives you ways you can sell old inventory. We are now thinking about pulling out old inventory of surplus firearms we got in in the early 2000s it was originally put aside because we wanted to collect. but the prices are so nuts we really thinking about selling a few
Very interesting.
"gives" if it pleases the "king" 🤦🏻♀️
Wouldn’t that just be private sales then? No need to involve the ATF.
Thats kind of a shady area. They were bought by and for a business, not a private individual. I would definitely contact a lawyer thats familiar with gun laws.@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
Let's us know when you post these! Like gun broker or guns of america online.
You can make a Glock 22 a Glock 17 or a Glock 31. Not to mention you have the gun the upgrades or conversions you can do one part at a time.
I bought a sks for $70 and a mosin for $100. Everything has gotten more expensive. We need to take back the checkbook from the spoiled rotten government.
25 years ago I bought a never issued like new Mosin nagant with a hex receiver made in 1934 complete in the original soviet crate with everything in it for 89.99, best 90 bucks I ever spent.
Probably refurbished for storage/ export.
All matching never issued, looked like it'd never been fired, got an all matching Kar98k in the same condition made in Berlin in 42, SS stamp on it, guns like that were everywhere 20-30 years ago.
@@jasonashley4579so jealous
@@jasonashley4579based
I remember $25 SKS rifles. They were wrapped in plastic and bathed in grease that took a while to clean but cheap. The old bolt actions were $15 . The early 80s were great for cheap guns. The AR-15 full auto conversion was $19.95 but nobody wanted them because people thought AR's were crap.
m1 carbines
Being born in the 2000’s is hell, I salivate when people tell me about buying guns under $300
I love historical firearms. I used to do Civil War Cavalry reenacting. People would ask me about the weapons I carried. I would always tell them, "they are as deadly today as they were then."
Yep!
I picked up an 1888 Mauser (to many years ago to say) from the old Wolco store for 39.99. Rife Still barks out 1.5 MOA today.
Nice! Yea I’ve got a many old rifles that still put very good shot groups on paper
1888 Mauser ?!?!?
German 1888 comission rifle. P. Mauser had nothing to do with it, but because of the later Mauser 98 in the same calliber, they are coloquially known as 1888 Mauser.
@@squidy4082 Yes. The one that has a full bbl shroud, 30inch bbl. U know it?
@@travhammer I’ve seen them before but that’s awesome, I’m jealous lol
I remember seeing mosins on the big 5 catalog for $200-300, kicking myself for letting those slip by.
Brother I bought them back when they were 58$
@@bobborlog1677yeah 79.99 at Roses department store with slings cleaning kits and bayonet. Sometimes a can of ammo.
@@bobborlog1677 yeah and the Lee Enfields and Springfield 1903 were like $100
I too remember when I was a child.
I do too. About 13 years ago, I saw the big five ad with 99.00 mosins. Went to the local store and the clerk said they were sold out. I ended up walking out with a single shot Rossi 410 for 118.00. Time’s change.
Cz 82 will go the route the beretta 84 and 85 went. Grab one while you can boys!!
Friend used a carcano carbine for deer rifle for years . Light , low recoil , accurate enough, easy handling . They got a poor rep that was undeserved
Yep and a lot of rumors surrounding the Carcano family of rifles and carbines
A deer is just a oversized goat
You can often find Spanish Mauser’s in the $300-$400 range in good condition on Gun Broker.
Cz82 and cz83 are seriously slept on guns. I suggest getting an 18lb recoil spring replacement to keep your brass in the same state and reducing recoil. Drop safe and ambidextrous features, polygonal barrel lasts longer too!
Greatly appreciate your input!
I checked 2 weeks after this video came out and the guns are already more expensive!
Just wish someone could make reproductions of some of these old guns😢
Ammo for the Carcano is hard to find and expensive, so probably not a good shtf or teotwawki choice.
Yep, way better rifles and carbines than a Carcano for shtf
Never heard your interesting pronunciation of Carcano before. Not saying it's wrong , just never heard it pronounced that way. By the way how do you pronounce Mozin? Anyway ,thanks for your list ,it gives great suggestions to look at.
Honestly milsurps should be going back down..why buy an sks that goes for $600 -800 when you can buy an AR or an AK for that price..The milsurps being priced like they are makes zero sense..Honestly its just greed..
I just posted a video actually about my M91 Truppe Speciali from Royal Tiger Imports; I’m pleased; paid the extra $50 to ensure it was a “Beretta Gardone” stamped one that has a cleaning rod. They didn’t send the clip with it, but they made things right, so can’t complain.
Awesome! I just watched it. I’m kinda considering one myself
Nice I also carry one of my CZ 82's on occasion as well!
Right on 🍻
I might need a sten
Surplus firearms should be boycotted until prices come down. Also with our nation tumbling towards civil war, it would be best to invest in a AK or AR platform
Every rifle is the last cheap rifle we will ever see. 🤣 Spend like $100 more and build a modern military rifle.
Yea that saying is a common sales gimmick! Only partially true imo. Some people wish they would’ve spent the money back then to get the ones that were imported and cheaply priced because as time went on, they’ve went up in value on average. I’ve already built some modern stuff but cost way more than $400
Pro tip: buy Glock 22 for $279, then go to Brownells and buy an $89 9mm barrel. Badda bing badda boom
Nice!
6:17 no one uses level 2 body armor anymore
i seen a mosin nagant being sold for $1,500 these gun owners nowadays smoke so much crack they think the older then gun is the more it's worth and i would understand if it was new in the box but these look so beat up and used like wtf 😂
lol yea I’ve seen some Mosin M91/30s still go for around 1k. IMO they aren’t worth anything more than 550. I’ve seen a lot of places have them for 400 or even less than that
Crack heads done traded their wares
good info, better than so many others! yes, I liked and subscribed. Hope to see more great content!
BTW, you could be hazardous to my wallet - yes, I have been warned.......
lol thanks 😁🍻
7.62x25 defeats level 3a on first shot
I actually have all those, except the glock. Let's not forget the Romanian TTC, also available at a few vendors.
Ah ok, I must have missed the Romanian ones. I figured they are still out there as well
Unfortunate that Nagant revolvers no longer make a list like this. I remember when you could get them - with holster and cleaning kit - in immaculate condition for well under two bills. Wasn't that long ago, actually. To get even more extreme, I still remember when milsurps were practically being given away to good homes back in the 80s (I exaggerate, but not by much) - literal crates of Mosins, like-new British Enfields, the list went on and on. And if you were OK with sporterized, they nearly *were* free. So I honestly can't wrap my head around ANY of this. As much as I enjoy UA-cam, I can't help but think all the "Mosins Actually Rule!" videos over the years had more than a little something to do with this.
Who tf cares what you paid whenever? This video isn't about deals "then". Stupid comments about I only paid ____. Good for you. Who cares?
😂Those are probably the most common type of comments I see on videos
@BattlefieldCurator I get it, my dad was an FFL in the 80's and gunshow deals and pawn shop finds etc were great during the years I've been buying. I should do a video saying that I used to buy SKSs for $10. I only have 343 subs, but I bet at least 1 person would claim to have bought them for $5 🤓
The carcono just doesn't interest me for that price id rather just buy a ruger american scout rifle
I keep trying to talk myself into buying a couple just because they're cheap and maybe someday they will skyrocket like the Mosin. But they're just so ugly, there's no ammo, and the cheap ones currently available are in shit condition
Got my M44 back in 2008 after pawning a gold chain I found at my University. $85 sticker price at Big 5 :(
What made the M16 Berthier sporterized at the end? I have one, that looks very similar from a quick glance, and now I am wondering if I should be looking on mine for something.
I had one in the 1970s, 29.00 came with a 30 caliber ammo can full of bulk ammo 6.5, better off for emotion of the better off wy Russian garbage ride, or a Savage Marlin SKS muzzleloader
I'm now 64 years old, that's gotta be twice your age, and I remember when in my 20's I could find mausers and nagants for less than $100, about $80. There was one place near me that had Garands for only $300 and m1 carbines for a scant $169. Surplus ammo for all was abundant and I actually ordered alot from jg sales which has been in business for decades. Grabted alot of the rifles had the rifling pretty well shot out and where worn and abused, but all were still functional. Now the cheapest in worse shape mosin or mauser cost as much or more than some ar 15's. As much as I like and respect old ww2 weapons there's no way I'll pay that kinda money for one
I remember not that long ago one could get a mosin nagant and a tin of ammo for 299. Itnwasna 4th of July sale.
Sure you can buy them. Because there's zero ammo for them
Buying an Sks from big 5 or some company advertising in Shotgun news for $180 or a M1 Garand for $350 was the most affordable and practical rifles to get into wild boar hunting here in northern California when i was in highschool, they are solid and ugly, a true workhorses really, now they are mostly way to expensive for what they are
I remember I bought my Mosin Nagant with my first paycheck back about 15 years ago for $118.
Now I look at the prices people want on gunbroker and laugh 😂
the problem with saying a gun is cheap or in this price range on youtube is that all the predatory re sellers go buy em all up with in a day or two in fact it it was only 7 or 8 years ago yt had to step in because gun tubers were saying oh jonny b's gunshop has these x99.99 but you get to the site and all the x99.99 models were gone and all that was left was the 500 dollar model cant remember exactly what rule yt implemented to combat this type on theyre site but it stopped over night
and the yt gun community was better for it
Cz82 and 83 are absolute gems. And the 83 shoots 380acp which has a great supply
I recently bought a surplus No. 1 Mk. III in very good condition for the equivalent of US$75. And there are about 30 SMLE variants in store between US$40 and US$100 equivalent. Some nicely sporterised and some virtually mint and stock configuration.
Very nice! I’m guessing these shops are out of a different country.
I have a cz70, and its a gread carry gun. Its so comfortable i sometimes forget i have it on. I cant imagain the 50 being much different
Mislurps and even Saturday night specials go for $500 an up in the gun shows
Carcano = accent on the second syllable. Car-CAN-o. At least use proper Italian.
Not to long back i saw 303 brit rifles for like 150 to 200...dang old age i forgot where... maybe jg sales..😕
I think those might have been the drill purpose rifles you saw
Blud thought he could dress like Bill Williamson and I wouldn't notice.
Ahhh yes the carcano... most famous for uh....Dallas😅
The carcano was actualy used as far back as the boxer revolution.
I’m glad I was old enough to be able to catch the tail end of the surplus gun golden age.
The BUL Cherokee is an almost part for part copy of the Tanfoglio/EAA Witness pistols. Never owned a BUL but I had a Witness compact in 9mm and it was a good little shooter. It was the first CCW pistol I bought when I turned 21, trigger was a little mushy in DA, but the SA pull was more than adequate, and the gun shot good groups with good ammo, with shit ammo it tended low right. Definitely regret getting rid of that little gun. If the BUL's are as good as the Witness that they copy, they'll be good guns.
Cár-Kahnô is how your pronounce it
Ten years ago $300 was worth a LOT more. 7.62x25 is harder to find and cost a lot more than even a few years ago.
Yes
The M57 at Old Western Scrounger (swindler) that is under $300 DOESN’T COME WITH A MAGAZINE!
Thanks for letting me know. A small detail that shouldn’t have been discovered when making the video. I’ll update the pinned comment.
@@BattlefieldCurator the ones with magazines are much more.
I been in this hobby siince 2005. I could get a mint romanian sks for $250 and a mint yugo mauser for same price back then. A nagant ran $100-150 mint and i got a steal on a DOT 1944 KAR98k for $120. Now so many people are in this hobby the prices suck and many places have closed down. Its simply long past the pentacle of this hobby. I can tell you I think J&G bought the nagant batch from an old friend of mine that passed away, probably an estate sale. He had easily a few thousand nagants and thats all he collected, his wife was left to sell them off. I sure miss the days of buying from Southern Ohio Gun or Century when they had the biggest inventory. Times have sadly changed and also many people on auctions will not honor a 03 FFL.
Ahhhh yea I saw all those Mosins on their website… so overpriced imo
Cool list & cool guns.like & subscribed. Love all of them.rarely met a gun I didn’t like.Doubt I’m alone here.!???.S&W simi auto LE trade ins a while back were a killer deal. I’m more into saving than spending right now.
PS. I could go the rest of my life without seeing another optics ready polymer pistol and be fine with that!
I think a lot of collectors have stepped back and started saving more than spending
Sten mk 3 was really easy to build. I recommend the challenge
Might have to do it this year
It’s kinda funny how much work goes into making it semi auto only compared to building it as originally designed.
I want to know if people are actually paying these absurd amounts for these guns. Are people really paying $600 for a Chinese SKS or $400-1000+ for a Nagant?
I would say that I’ve seen the SKS Type 56 sell for around $500 in my area. I saw a Mosin M91/30 sell for $300 last year and a M91 sell for $400 this year. Those were in South Carolina and Georgia.
I wish we'd start importing from russia again
lol with what’s going on in the world, I don’t see that happening anytime soon
@BattlefieldCurator with what's going on in the news not necessarily the world
I had a SKS in the early 90s cost 💲 79 😂😂😂
Who remembers the $150 m1 carbines?
But ammo will cost as much as the rifles
That will change as more firearms are sold. Production increases as demand increases.
I have a bul cherokee but I paid 500 for it at Range USA...I love it it feels and looks like my Mapp1.
Awesome! Thanks for your input
Once real surplus ammo dried up and new manufactured ammo went to $16-$20 a box for really anything.. buying surplus doesn’t hold water anymore.. a new bolt gun for $400 or less is a much better deal… if shooting/using is your deal..
I’m too late for cheap Mausers but I am trying to take advantage of the glocks and kits and Carcanos and stuff. Just got to capitalize on what you can get
Also cheap ARs. We are definitely in the age of the good cheap AR15
7.62x25 always intrigued me, 2880 rnd crates for almost nothing. I thought they'd never sell out and alas, what a fool i was
I sometimes look at older forum posts… you weren’t the only one that thought that
I bought a Israeli Bul Cherokee..from old Western scrounger.. 300 bucks ..9mm 17rd ..it's my EDC.. also bought Jericho 941 from Mosin crate..for 350.00
Awesome!
I bought an SKS some years ago for $275. I wonder how much they are going for now days?
750-1100 depending
I’ve seen them recently as low as 545 and as high as 1k.
good to know-@@BattlefieldCurator
Depends on origin and condition. Russian ones are the rare ones. Chinese ones start at like 350-400 and go from there. Alot of SKS value is lost if it doesnt come with its original wood stock or its bayonet. Also, the variants that take magazines from the factory are worth more for sure.
I remember years ago fleet farm had a pile of AK for 250 or 300 bucks should of gotten one.
Found a "Used" Zastava M57A (TT33) at a pawn shop for $300 out the door. It was brand new. Whoever bought it I guess shot a mag through it and didn't like it? Idk it had pretty much no wear on it and still had a lot of the original grease on it, also had the original packaging and bits. Chrome version, so it always caught peoples eye any time I'd take it out.
The 1916 spanish mauser converted to 7.62 nato are still 300 and under. The ones still chambered 7mm mauser 1916s are about 350.
Bowman arms has cheap parts kits
Thanks for the info!
@BattlefieldCurator no problem. Thanks for all your content helping collectors navigate the surplus collecting. Well what it ie now any way.
@@bad74maverick1I enjoy it 😁🍻
Yugo M70 pistols from RGuns for $225. Im not sure if they are C&R. They should be since Yugoslavia no longer exists.
Yeah I came in late to the game and it sucks, can't believe I'm thinking of getting an m16A1 kit for 750. Any experience with the ones from Atlantic firearms?
No sorry, I did not get one from Atlantic. I get mine from What-a-Country. I analyzed the pros and cons of Atlantic, Apex parts, and What A Country… What a Country was the winner! ua-cam.com/video/v_la4qkTJBg/v-deo.htmlsi=9_vuAzxYEX6LyTuK
Who tee who has a vid on the BUL .
Good presentation. And I just bought a Yugo M48A for $319 - a bit over your $300 mark but close enough. I was really glad to find it. I thought they were all gone from the online retailers.
That’s pretty good… someone told me that Atlantic Firearms got some surplus M48s and they have them for 750
@@BattlefieldCurator As a follow up - I received my Yugo from Centerfire Systems - all matching numbers (surprise) - def has seen action and the bore was a sewer pipe - reminded me of the Turk Mauser 39's back in the day... I have been able to clean it though - and the bore is starting to look good. Thankfully, because this is a shooter.
I cut up a beautiful one about 8 years ago to make a 45 win mag. It has a 1.25" dia 25" long barrel with a 30 carbine mag stuck up through the floorplate. The stock wast quite wide enough for a barrel channel, so it's just cut off at the front of the receiver.
@@theoriginalOSOKhope it works out for ya
@@BattlefieldCurator I think it will thanks. One thing I do if the accuracy is off is to freshen up the crown with a 45 degree chamfering tool with pilot. I've found that works wonders on old milsurps. So many have the rifling terminus worn on one side usually from the cleaning rod being used improperly.
Lol this guy has kingcobrajfs energy
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I’m up in Canada, I’ve got a carcano calvary carbine and they are pretty slick if you get a nice one. Good round and the rifle is nice and small, light weight.
My first hunting rifle in 1972 was a 7.35 Terni/Carcano and I took my first deer with it and my uncle took his first deer with the same rifle years before.
That’s pretty awesome. Every time I have taken out my 7.35 Carcano, I haven’t seen a deer. The milsurps in my collection that have taken a deer were the M1 Carbine and my son used a Spoerterized No4 Mk1*. I really want to try again next year with the Carcano in 7.35, it’s such a light, short and handy rifle.
I too have a 7.35 Carcano short rifle. Hard to find ammo but it's a sweet rifle, much lighter than my Turkish Mauser
I love my CZ50. Great shooter even with the crappy military style sites. The CZ70 is a slight upgrade and takes the same mags
I've got a Polish underfolder semi-auto AK receiver I've never done anything with. I see whatacountry has polish underfolder parts kits. Not under $300, but if I can dig that receiver out of the parts bin it may be time to build something up out of it.
In 1964 you could pick up just about any milsurp rifle for under $20.00. Lee Enfields were selling for $12.95.
In regards to the bul cherokee, they have new ones for sale around 350 or less at times, i have the compact and full size. The single action is pretty good but the double action is really spongy with a delayed hammer release if you try to stage the trigger. I love this gun but i bought the new one, i havent bought the old ones.
Ah ok thanks for your input