What is Ayanokoji Kiyotaka's True Goal?

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  • @shenigen7161
    @shenigen7161 Рік тому +54

    I expect him to join Class D-previous class B. He is creating a bond with Ichinose and in last year exam Horikita vs Ichinose determined at unanimous exam. I think Kiyopon is trying to make a class that can beat him by boosting Horikita class. He will have a showdown and try to prove that White Room is the world's most efficient facility but in fact hope for a defeat by the own class he created.

    • @crxmix7602
      @crxmix7602 11 місяців тому +3

      No he wants to prove his dad wrong that white room is not the best

    • @b.mohit_kumar_09
      @b.mohit_kumar_09 11 місяців тому +10

      ​@@crxmix7602 That's what he meant, though somewhat indirect

    • @jroam2659
      @jroam2659 9 місяців тому +4

      Agree, His for sure manipulating his class growth by guiding them. He did mention he will help Horikita's class get to class A, but he didn't mention anything about helping them graduate. Sakayanagi true goal is to challenge ayanokoji so theres no way she would be happy with him joining her class the same goes with Ryuen. Ichinose goal is to reach class A and also be with Koji. Basically training people to defeat him to prove something with the white room. Super excited to see everyones reaction once Koji starts playing the game.

    • @vasavimedchalam8904
      @vasavimedchalam8904 4 місяці тому

      I think his true goal is to beat the s system... Which means he will make every student in his year graduate in class A... Remember when manabu asked him to leave something behind for the students. That is his ultimate goal

  • @jasonj5292
    @jasonj5292 Рік тому +22

    year 2 9.5 really did a great job at setting the scene for the upcoming volumes to end year 2. from the increasing number of people starting to realize ayanokoji is better than he lets on and the definite explosions coming up. There will definatly be a big change and dynamic coming up because there will definatly be big names expelled and ayanokoji is going to have more eyes on him as well.

  • @ValleyRivers
    @ValleyRivers Рік тому +16

    COTE YEAR2 Has been really Great to read, Kinugasa has been setting up, planting seeds and foreshadowing Crazy events that will take place in future volumes. People say year2 hasn’t been good or Entertaining Kinugasa writing has been lacking and that’s far from the truth. Kinugasa got something cooking with this story, some if not most people aren’t seeing the bigger picture. I can’t wait too see what he has in stored for us
    Kiyotaka Cooking as well

  • @Junmitis
    @Junmitis Рік тому +27

    He wants to build Horikita into the person who can defeat him and prove his father's methods wrong

    • @jasonj5292
      @jasonj5292 Рік тому +13

      thats doubtful she will never be anywhere close to his intelligence or physical abilities

    • @handlemoment
      @handlemoment Рік тому +2

      @@jasonj5292 she will soon surpass manabu already you know

    • @handlemoment
      @handlemoment Рік тому +1

      @@jasonj5292 but yeah koenji beating ayanokoji is more realistic

    • @jasonj5292
      @jasonj5292 Рік тому +8

      @@handlemoment I doubt she will pass manabu anytime soon I mean we also don't know too much about his capabilities. but for sure Horikita will never pass him physically maybe intellectually but defiantly never even close physically.

    • @user-kb5yx4io1b
      @user-kb5yx4io1b Рік тому +2

      @@jasonj5292 we are not considering 1 vs 1 battle but class battle though. Horikita gets chance to defeat Ayanogogi.

  • @mkzero7461
    @mkzero7461 Рік тому +29

    If I remember correctly Sakayangi has a protection point from the y1v10 so don't think she will be expelled anytime soon

    • @afzalmiah7389
      @afzalmiah7389 Рік тому +4

      Protection points are invalid on some exams so don't think she won't get expelled lol

    • @kiyokouji999
      @kiyokouji999 Рік тому +5

      @@afzalmiah7389 Nope. Protection point is only disabled when you fight within your own class ,like class poll exam or unanimous special exam. But in the inter class battle, protection point will not be disabled. It's like a weapon. Currently,Class D has 1 protection point, class C has 0 protection point,class B and class A has 2 protection point each.

    • @almdmrgamer3134
      @almdmrgamer3134 11 місяців тому

      @@kiyokouji999 can you tell me who has the protection points from every class

    • @kiyokouji999
      @kiyokouji999 11 місяців тому +5

      @@almdmrgamer3134 Sure.
      Class D: Kaneda(1 protection point)
      Class C: no one
      Class B: Horikita Suzune (1 pp),koenji Rokusuke (1 pp)
      Class B: Sakayanagi Arisu (2 pp)

    • @afzalmiah7389
      @afzalmiah7389 11 місяців тому

      @@kiyokouji999 That’s not necessarily how it works. In y2v5 they had an option to get a protection point or not and we didn’t see pov of other 3 classes. We dont know if arisu got 1 or 2, Ryuuen got 1 or 0, and if Honami got 1 or 0 but most likely 0.
      Your theory is wrong

  • @ripurmum2119
    @ripurmum2119 Рік тому +6

    Great Video! What remains is the question, why the school (probably) decided to instruct Kiryuin from the third year's class B to give information about the danger of the upcoming exam to a class b student while a class D student told Ryuuen about it. Also Kiryuin mentions that someone from Class B got expelled last year, which Kiyotaka found very odd. Probably Ryuuen was told that someone from Class C was expelled. Maybe the school wants the students to prepare for a potential sacrifice of one of their classmates. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on the matter.

  • @fallenaeon7084
    @fallenaeon7084 6 місяців тому +2

    You can crucify me for this one but nonetheless here is my take.
    Short answer: Kiyo just wanted to live a peaceful and a normal life.
    Long answer: Kiyotaka wanted to live like a normal human but in the grand scheme of things he has to defeat the very thing that made him in the first place, the White Room and his own father, not by outrunning them but by COMPLETELY shutting them down. Why and how?
    Firstly for me while I believe that Kiyotaka can outrun his creators off his back he doesnt want to live in world where Humans were being governed by emotionless and broken hyperintelligent superhumans similar to him created by the White Room and how is he going to that?
    The answer lies on the very people that his father sees nothing more but flawed imperfect humans, his own Classmates and for me he no longer sees them as tools to be disposed off on a meat grinder but rather as Tools capable of carrying out his will by succeeding him, his Inheritors, for in behind the scenes Kiyotaka has been secretly grooming his own friends to become the better versions of father's broken creations including himself because for me, since Kiyotaka was created as the Smartest Kid in the block, I believe that Kiyotaka knew that he is not an ideal candidate to rule over Mankind and saw that the people of the Outside World has, for the lack of better words, a secret ingredient that the products of White Room will never had that can be the key for the betterment of Human Race and he intends to use that to change his Classmates into something greater that the world has yet to see without sacrificing their Humanity and succeed before his father and the agents of White Room could do.
    In other words it was similar to a Nuclear Arms race but instead of 2 Countries competing for superweapons it was between a father and a son and instead of having the most powerful nuclear weapons it was an army of who has the better supersoldiers and should Kiyotaka succeed in placing his "friends" at the top of the world as Mankind's greatest leaders, the White Room and everything that they have created had created would lose its value and crumble in the very eyes of his own father caused by the very dream that he wanted to instill on his son that is NOT according his design and should that happen in the end Kiyotaka can now finally live his dream to walk among the masses not as a flawed man-made god but as a Human in a world that he himself had created through his irreplacable tools.

  • @anonymous_1013
    @anonymous_1013 Рік тому +7

    If Arisu gets expelled im dropping the whole thing. In the last volume Ayano asked Arisu if she could turn her romantic feelings into a stronger emotion. Arisu understood that and thats exactly what she would do. No way in hell will she get outsmarted by Ryuen..Ryuen could deal her damage but not as great as expulsion. As for the class transfer, Kiyo has had interactions with both Arisu and Ichinose's class. So we cant make judgement based on interactions .In my theory Ayano will likely join Ichinose's class. Why? Coz there isn't any diff in points between Arisu and Horikita's classes ,so there wont be much for Kiyo to do. Why? To test the class he created(Horikita's class) he will need to overpower them using a class thats on the verge of collapse(Ichinose's class).Personally, i hate Horikita and Chabashira bcoz they want to use him only to get to class A but that hasn't made my judgement clouded.....Thank you.I am but another COTE fan..

    • @NuchaReviews
      @NuchaReviews  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, the chances of Ayanokoji moving to Ichinoose class is still the highest. Thanks for the comment

    • @anonymous_1013
      @anonymous_1013 Рік тому +1

      @@NuchaReviews keep up the good content😋.Cant wait for october 25th..

    • @adamdragonace3988
      @adamdragonace3988 10 місяців тому

      Why do you hate those two? Just curious.

  • @PrysterZ
    @PrysterZ Рік тому +2

    Great Video!
    As always Ayanokoji being the puppeteer.

  • @kiyokouji999
    @kiyokouji999 Рік тому +13

    My prediction after reading this volume....
    1. There will be two more special exam before the final exam. Ryuuen will beat Sakayanagi in one of them in a direct confrontation and also will win the 2 nd special exam of third time again Horikita or ichinose.
    2. Horikita's class is likely to be in the middle in these 2 special exam. Ichinose may win 1 and lose 1. Finally,class A will most likely to be in the bottom in upcoming 2 special exam. That will result a balance of all 4 classes.
    3. Then,we will see some character development of Arisu. In the second year final exam, Sakayanagi will beat Ryuuen by large margin and Horikita will beat ichinose by a close margin.
    4. Ayanokoji will either win a class transfer ticket or he will get private points from ichinose.
    5. The students that are likely to get expelled in the 3 Rd term are...... Hiyori Shiina, Tokitou Hiroya,Morofogi Rika (class D).... Shiranami chihiro from class C ...... Karuizawa Kei, Maya Satou, shinohara Satsuki from class B and Sakayanagi losing one of her protection point.
    The final Ranking before the third year would be ...
    1. Class A( Sakayanagi) with around 1300 cp
    2. Class B ( Horikita) with Around 1250 CP
    3. Class C( Ryuuen) with around 800 cp
    4. Class D( Ichinose) with around 750 cp.

    • @DominikDavis-lf7wy
      @DominikDavis-lf7wy Рік тому +5

      That would be definitely interesting and I wouldn’t mind Kei and some others being expelled so I can have either my Ichinose ship or horikita ship. Actually, why not both🗿

    • @Bboy7211
      @Bboy7211 Рік тому +1

      I agree with almost everything but I don't think those class b characters will get expelled. Its more likely that maezono will get expelled.

    • @kiyokouji999
      @kiyokouji999 Рік тому +6

      @@Bboy7211 From,Y2V9.5 ,It is hinted that Sato might get expelled. In y2V7, when Nagumo threatened Ayanokoji to expel Kei, Ayanokoji said that he doesn't care and that will only help him clear the mess. Meaning Kei also has chance from expulsion. Besides, shinohara is the worst student overall in class B. Sakura was expelled in Y2V5 and her expulsion was hinted in Y2V4.5 ,so yes... The only characters that are safe from expulsion are...
      Class A: Sakayanagi
      Class B: Suzune, Kushida, Hirata, Sudo, Ayanokoji
      Class C; Ichinose (Cause the promise is after year final exam. So,if she is no dorm at that time ,she is not expelled),Kanzaki,Mako Amikura (Possible connection with Shiro)
      Class D; Ryuuen, Katsuragi,kaneda

    • @bookcollector25
      @bookcollector25 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kiyokouji999
      From a more "technical" point of view:
      Ichinose is safe because she has protection points from the 91 praise votes she received in Y1V10, so she is safe like Sakayanagi.
      Hiyori is also on the saved list. She has great importance in the academic part of the class, just like Katsuragi currently. They have the best grades in the OAA. Ryuen would never let Hiyori be expelled, as she is fundamental to the class, especially because Hiyori has a heart willing to help for the good of the class, even though she loves spending time alone.
      [Fix: The exception is the fact that the Sakayanagi Faction keeps a better eye on Hiyori (because of their recent meeting). It could be that Sakayanagi either wants to expel Hiyori to reduce academic strength, or wants to buy Hiyori into her class in hypothesis, as Hiyori has been in this type of dialogue. Besides, Sakayanagi would know how to manipulate and use Hiyori, if she were her leader ]

    • @kiyokouji999
      @kiyokouji999 11 місяців тому +1

      @@bookcollector25 ichinose lost her protection point in event selection exam against Ryuuen.

  • @LOKMENTiR
    @LOKMENTiR 4 місяці тому +1

    At the end of chap 0 his father said that his boss is forcing him to close the W.R and transfer his loyalty to other boss, this boss create this school and who already create a environment like the w.r with more beneficial results i think kounji come from it, in the other hand this school has system s whitch have some mastery his father wanna use his son as a spy to catch some info so he can beat his bosses, and for kiyo to develop, but kiyo have other goals and plans he wanna learn how to be a human with feelings cuz he never lived somthing like that in the w.r, and he wanna prove that his father is wrong and there is people who can beat kiyo, cuz his father see ayano as his masterpiece that can't existe twice, so ayano in his 3 years was forming students to grow so they can put him in danger or simply beat him.

  • @RBMapleLeaf
    @RBMapleLeaf Місяць тому

    Now about the expulsions. While yes I see Karuizawa being in a dangerous position. I can see Kushida as well but from what I've been noticing Horikita appears to want to keep Kushida but if I do remember vividly is that. If she does betray the class or throw them under the bus.
    She's out.

  • @user-en8tt4uu3g
    @user-en8tt4uu3g Рік тому +10

    What if Sakayanagi loses to Ryūen, but Ayanokōji saves her from being expelled and she ends up being transferred to Ichinose's class?

    • @EliJang-dq3yf
      @EliJang-dq3yf 7 місяців тому

      Sakayanagi still has the protection from getting expelled I think

    • @araobalate
      @araobalate 2 місяці тому

      ​@@EliJang-dq3yfprotection points are used to avoid from getting expelled.
      But what if the person that holds it wants to leave the school? Are they going to stop her?

    • @EliJang-dq3yf
      @EliJang-dq3yf 2 місяці тому

      @@araobalate idk, why would she want to leave?

  • @MOOOMAlrahil
    @MOOOMAlrahil Рік тому +8

    Ichinose's obsession with Kiyo is a red flag for her expulsion

    • @David-bv1pj
      @David-bv1pj 5 місяців тому

      You think kinsuga would expell a fan favorite character?

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf Місяць тому

      ​@@David-bv1pjYou can make the same point in the case of Karuizawa. I don't necessarily like it but with how events have affected her. She is as what was said in a dangerous position.
      But at the same time this is conflicting since I still have questions does she still have control over all the girls which I still believe she does.
      If Karuizawa does and I mean DOES get expelled it will cause chaos within the Class B camp for obvious reasons and it will provide instability
      It's the same thing with Hirata as well
      Interestingly from the video they say Kushida is unlikely to be expelled but I can see her probability of expulsion to increase but she better be lucky Horikita is sparing her.
      But I do remember at some point Kushida being warned that if she does betray the class no question she is getting expelled.
      So if she does something well... That does affect the integrity of the class
      She's outta here.

  • @luthandojijana
    @luthandojijana 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe That Sakayanagi would win the bet. This is because she is indirectly having a rematch with Kiyotaka Ayanokoji. May I also mention that Sakayanagi didn't show her full capabikity yet. I think she is also holding back

  • @thetigerrex5586
    @thetigerrex5586 10 місяців тому +2

    i have a feeling that nagumos classmates in class A might get expelled. since thats one of the way ayanokoji can get nagumo back by making them lose class points because of expulsion of students get you lower class points. And class B year 3 woulf be class A again.

  • @AventSir
    @AventSir Рік тому +4

    🗣💯

  • @Hjking1
    @Hjking1 8 місяців тому +3

    Kushida is going to be expelled

  • @katsu6513
    @katsu6513 Рік тому +2

    I like the idea of him actually trying to exploit the school itself more than expelling opps

  • @Golden_Ki
    @Golden_Ki 7 місяців тому +1

    no,ig he is not leaving his class,ayanojoki never delay his promisses.

  • @TheHandHistoryVault
    @TheHandHistoryVault 10 місяців тому +1

    The author will not place Kiyotaka in Class A if the transfer happens. Simply due to Sakayanagi confessing to Kiyo and wanting to take him on to prove herself to him.

  • @fable7372
    @fable7372 Рік тому +3

    This discussion single handedly made me excited for the next volume,I can't wait.i don't think expulsion any key charecters in horikita class will get expelled(horikita,harata,sudo)so karuizawa has a good chance at being expelled

  • @yellow5740
    @yellow5740 Рік тому +3

  • @garlicbread5547
    @garlicbread5547 6 місяців тому +1

    I believe hes gonna create his own class and try and prove the white room wrong by not reaching class A even though he put all his knowledge to the test

  • @bayazwow
    @bayazwow 6 місяців тому +1

    Unfortunately it is inevitable that Horikita will be a Mary Sue in the story

  • @Lulugu
    @Lulugu Рік тому +1

    0:02 who is the girl to the right?

    • @NuchaReviews
      @NuchaReviews  Рік тому +3

      She’s Mori Nene from Horikitas class

  • @mastergamerprobest5155
    @mastergamerprobest5155 Рік тому +2

    When next mushoku tensei video nucha senpai

    • @NuchaReviews
      @NuchaReviews  Рік тому

      Maybe sometime soon, as always thanks for the comment

  • @Diablo-rd4ow
    @Diablo-rd4ow 5 місяців тому +1

    Regarding Sakayanagi Arisu being expelled when fighting Ryuen, it isn't likely because Arisu still has protection point from the vote exam (where Yamauchi is getting expelled). The chess match between Kiyo & Arisu ended with Arisu's victory thus she kept her protection point and Kiyo lost his.

    • @NuchaReviews
      @NuchaReviews  5 місяців тому

      The loser of the fight between Arisu and Ryuen will have to voluntarily leave the school so protection point won't matter

  • @ShadoWolfe
    @ShadoWolfe Рік тому

    Dude, what mic you use!

    • @NuchaReviews
      @NuchaReviews  Рік тому

      I use a Fifine condenser microphone, gotta upgrade soon....

    • @ShadoWolfe
      @ShadoWolfe Рік тому +1

      @@NuchaReviews Oh alri, thanks man!

  • @sannjogsos3009
    @sannjogsos3009 Рік тому +1

    Yo guys did Ayanokouji clap sakayangi in v9 or v10? I don't remember

    • @dreamworks2084
      @dreamworks2084 11 місяців тому +1

      Bro what 😭

    • @sannjogsos3009
      @sannjogsos3009 11 місяців тому

      @@dreamworks2084 fr bro he clapped her, i just dont remember when

    • @TheHandHistoryVault
      @TheHandHistoryVault 10 місяців тому

      ​@@sannjogsos3009Bruh you okay? He didn't. She was in his room but nothing happened lol.