Brexit explained: What is the problem with the Irish border?

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  • Northern Ireland is the smallest nation in the UK, but the border with the Republic of Ireland could become one of the biggest parts of the Brexit negotiations. So why is the Irish border so important?
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  • @Dannydantimpat
    @Dannydantimpat 5 років тому +291

    Ireland wasn’t always part of “Britain “
    It was and is a totally separate Island , a totally separate people, a totally separate culture .
    It was colonized. by England and they sent people from England and the Scottish lowlands to take over the fertile lands that the Native Irish had been forcibly removed from .
    These people that came over to Ireland kept theirselves separate , which was what the Westminster government wanted and they believed they were superior to the Irish.
    Ireland has never accepted Westminster rule in Ireland and every generation has rebelled against the colonizers.
    Eventually , about 100 years ago ,
    The British government realized they couldn’t ever impose their unwanted ways and rule in Ireland and agreed to vacate , but not before partitioning the Island and giving their planters offspring an artificial majority in the north eastern part of Ireland .
    This was and is the root cause of the conflict in Ireland ,
    Once again , Westminster hasn’t been able to do what it wants to do with Brexit because of its involvement in Irish affairs ..
    Perhaps there is such a thing as Karma .

    • @Desmondwalsh1
      @Desmondwalsh1 5 років тому +16

      Ireland Scotland and Wales have same DNA and similar Cultures.

    • @Dannydantimpat
      @Dannydantimpat 5 років тому +31

      @Protestant
      We don’t worship a human woman .
      Isn’t ye guys that “worship “ the human woman that you call the “ Queen “ of England.
      Remember she goes to the bathroom every day just like all others .
      Also , you seem to be throwing insults at Catholics ( which I’m not) but it wouldn’t have been too long ago that all of your ancestors were Catholics .
      Some of your ancestors started to protest about certain issues in the Catholic Church that they weren’t happy with and later those “protesters” become known as
      Protest- ants ( Protestants)
      It’s good to study real History., it broadens the mind a lot .

    • @Dannydantimpat
      @Dannydantimpat 5 років тому +12

      @Protestant
      So the difference of the protesters ( Protestants) ( all of who were formerly descendants of Catholics) with these Protestant men head bowed and Protestant women genuflecting in front of a human woman ( Queenie Liz )
      That is something to be admired .? ( not’)

    • @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín
      @Saoirse_don_Phalaistín 4 роки тому +1

      @ Which part is incorrect?

    • @williampatrickfagan7590
      @williampatrickfagan7590 4 роки тому +12

      It still is not part of Britain. Never was, never will be. Apart of United Kingdom of G B AND N Ireland.
      NOT part of U K Including N Ireland.
      Unionists think of themselves as being British.
      They are no more British than my Polish cleaner.
      Even she understands the difference between G B and N irl

  • @Dischordian
    @Dischordian 5 років тому +155

    oh my god this ignorance of the video is astounding. the violence broke out late 60's as a result of the human rights of catholics to vote and work and be protected from protestant violence not being satisfied by the British government.

    • @Grugthegruggr
      @Grugthegruggr 5 років тому +8

      Finally someone said it

    • @williampatrickfagan7590
      @williampatrickfagan7590 4 роки тому +3

      True, very true. It was thr only way Unionists maintained their majority.

    • @tyronefox3528
      @tyronefox3528 4 роки тому +1

      Yeh from that statement he needs to start from scratch.. But it’s in the past and I don’t know really but what about you guys in the comments. Do you not think that England would prefer to just give it back?? And will there be madness on the news every week with the unionists losing the plot over them leaving the UK?? Not looking for an argument by the way.. haha

    • @dontworryimnotastalker5486
      @dontworryimnotastalker5486 4 роки тому +4

      @@tyronefox3528 unionists would lose their minds and that’s not understatement, currently there are loyalist paramilitaries threatening staff at the sea border that is now there because of Brexit. It also isn’t allowed to go that way because of the good Friday agreement means that the majority of Northern Ireland has to vote for a united Ireland which I think is pretty fair. The catholic’s started civil rights protests in the 60s and were ignored by government and I’m pretty sure protesters were killed by police and that kicked off the violence in the troubles which is treated like a both sides did bad things let’s not speak of it but it still confuses me that that is the response to a legitimate government doing things of the same scale as literal terrorists.

  • @PeterMcgahan
    @PeterMcgahan 5 років тому +68

    nearly choked with this propoganda. If thats how people are educated openly about Ireland, what happens behind closed doors.

    • @alfonshasel1995
      @alfonshasel1995 3 роки тому

      Care to elaborate?

    • @flynnandres9533
      @flynnandres9533 3 роки тому

      i know I am kind of off topic but does anybody know a good website to watch new tv shows online?

    • @santiagoezekiel8268
      @santiagoezekiel8268 3 роки тому

      @Flynn Andres I dunno I would suggest Flixportal. just google after it:P -santiago

    • @flynnandres9533
      @flynnandres9533 3 роки тому

      @Santiago Ezekiel thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D I really appreciate it!

    • @santiagoezekiel8268
      @santiagoezekiel8268 3 роки тому

      @Flynn Andres happy to help :D

  • @macjim
    @macjim 6 років тому +47

    Uhm... Ireland was an independent country before being invaded by ‘Britain’, more than the 100 years ago you mentioned, you made it sound like they were not before regaining their independence...
    and the Isle of Man is a dependency and not part of the uk... it’s a self governing country

    • @korytoombs886
      @korytoombs886 3 роки тому +3

      Calm down, this is an over simplified video to explain it to people with 5 minute attention spans.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 роки тому

      Not true. Ireland was not name of our country that's what Spanish n Mediterranean pirates called it so maybe these EU need returning to base. Heugonot refugees from Europe brought great skills

  • @gavinhillick
    @gavinhillick 6 років тому +743

    British soldiers "clashed with republicans". Not to mention collaborating with loyalist paramilitaries and murdering unarmed civilians.

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 6 років тому +75

      Yea but they conveniently leave that out one of the biggest atrocities of the troubles was the 1974 Dublin Monaghan bombings which were almost certainly Mi6 carried out but still 44 years later the British government still refuses to release the documents

    • @DFxAngelz
      @DFxAngelz 6 років тому +15

      They didn’t conveniently leave that out, it’s a video about the border so not sure what you were going to expect except a speedy summary of the last 100 years.

    • @timhunt2137
      @timhunt2137 6 років тому +3

      Gavin Hillick a

    • @johnbest4513
      @johnbest4513 6 років тому +2

      UVF and UDA are rising.

    • @dannyboy5517
      @dannyboy5517 6 років тому +2

      Very well said These people never search for the truth Are we going there again?

  • @mrfreeman9727
    @mrfreeman9727 5 років тому +198

    It's not a Irish border, it's a British border in ireland

    • @circlethecube6411
      @circlethecube6411 5 років тому +1

      Veganism Kills it is British u glass of chicken blood

    • @ioannisimansola7115
      @ioannisimansola7115 5 років тому +1

      Wait to judge BREXIT ....after the Irish problem is faced. There maybe those who will regret the doing without some thinking before .Boris has not proven his views

    • @caleb4790
      @caleb4790 4 роки тому +1

      mr FreeMan it’s in Northern Ireland and Ireland two diffrent counties

    • @Buildbeautiful
      @Buildbeautiful 3 роки тому +2

      @@caleb4790 northern Irelands days are numbered

    • @Buildbeautiful
      @Buildbeautiful 3 роки тому

      @@circlethecube6411 say that in english

  • @elizabethmunson2129
    @elizabethmunson2129 5 років тому +160

    I have a solution. Give Ireland back to the Irish ☘️

    • @Grugthegruggr
      @Grugthegruggr 5 років тому +22

      I wholeheartedly agree

    • @1969Mizori
      @1969Mizori 5 років тому

      Crazy idea!

    • @bobrussell3602
      @bobrussell3602 5 років тому +8

      @@1969Mizori Why do you think it's a crazy idea ?

    • @GaraGambini
      @GaraGambini 5 років тому +5

      Never mind the MAJORITY that wants to remain part of the UK eh?

    • @catsnmi270
      @catsnmi270 5 років тому +2

      I presume you mean Northern Ireland? What do you think the people of NI would say to that?

  • @S0mewhat_Damaged
    @S0mewhat_Damaged 6 років тому +300

    1:50 What this video failed to mention was that before Britain "ruled" Ireland, we ruled ourselves.

    • @immortaltyrant2474
      @immortaltyrant2474 5 років тому +31

      No, Ireland was divided into many kingdoms. The British united them as a whole.

    • @sloppymcslops954
      @sloppymcslops954 5 років тому +16

      Yeah, the concept of 'we' in terms of nationhood is often a colonial invention

    • @a1guy524
      @a1guy524 5 років тому

      @gamer uploads cheers to that mate

    • @Craig-we7un
      @Craig-we7un 5 років тому +4

      Go back to junior cert history man , and learn about home rule crisis.......

    • @sloppymcslops954
      @sloppymcslops954 5 років тому

      @@Craig-we7un no you wrong

  • @123YMR
    @123YMR 5 років тому +56

    You forgot to mention the threat of violence from loyalists (loyal to the English crown) you only mentioned threat of violence from Irish Nationalists. Also no mention of the "Plantation of Ulster" Very biased.

    • @thewingedhussar4188
      @thewingedhussar4188 4 роки тому +1

      They did
      An yep its still a problem
      An some how no deal brexit (according to mr idiot prime Minister) 🙄 is supposed to fix it.
      Lol sure
      But hey Ireland 🇮🇪 is getting all its land back at least

    • @hemsinghpanwar6470
      @hemsinghpanwar6470 4 роки тому

      Yep they did at 2:00

    • @yourlocalramen1660
      @yourlocalramen1660 3 роки тому +5

      @@hemsinghpanwar6470 ... They didn't he just talked about how the Brits partioned Ireland and how it's entirely the fault of Irish Militias that there's violence in the North, despite the fact that a majority of the IRA's targets were military groups, while a majority of the UDA and British Military targets were civialian.
      Breakdown of those deaths:
      Of those killed by British security forces:
      186 (~51.2%) were civilians
      146 (~40.2%) were members of republican paramilitaries
      18 (~5.0%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
      13 (~3.6%) were fellow members of the British security forces
      Of those killed by republican paramilitaries:
      1080 (~52.5%) were members/former members of the British security forces
      721 (~35.1%) were civilians
      188 (~9.2%) were members of republican paramilitaries
      57 (~2.8%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
      11 (~0.5%) were members of the Irish security forces
      Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries:
      878 (~85.5%) were civilians
      94 (~9.2%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
      41 (~4.0%) were members of republican paramilitaries
      14 (~1.4%) were members of the British security forces

  • @annagilda1
    @annagilda1 6 років тому +232

    "What's the problem with the Irish border?"
    Britain. That's the problem with the border that YOU imposed. 100 years later, here you are again, imposing your will across our Island.

    • @triestodrum2215
      @triestodrum2215 6 років тому +10

      Northern Ireland is part of the UK and that is really it. :-)

    • @ItsDeffoScott
      @ItsDeffoScott 6 років тому +1

      @Brendan Gavaghan Doubt it. I bet a united Ireland still keeps the sweetheart deals, favoured trade, and bailout money in your head

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 6 років тому +3

      Ah we bad British explain if we are the ones causing a problem why we have laws which allow any Irish National to live work and own property inside the UK. The EU and the Irish Republic have refused to say if they will do the same after we leave the EU. The UK government did not impose the Border your leaders agreed to it as the other option would have been a full war between Northern Ireland and the new Irish Republic with 100,00- peoples of this island dead. The border was created by you leaving the UK We in Northern Ireland did not go anywhere we chose to remain where we were part of the UK. How ever I would agree many parts of Northern Ireland should be handed over to the Irish Republic and a few smaller parts of the Irish Republic should be handed back. The British government should also follow the Irish Republics example and issue British Passports with in the Irish Republic.

    • @williamfrancis5367
      @williamfrancis5367 6 років тому +7

      Imposed? It was part of the Anglo Irish treaty of 1922, The Irish leaders signed it!!! Furthermore you do what makes you entitled to tell the Northern Irish they shouldn't be part of the UK? That kind of Irish nationalism is why the Ulster Scots, were so keen not to resist the Home Rule movement.

    • @LOGOS422
      @LOGOS422 6 років тому +7

      @@williamfrancis5367 Unionists have a majority in county Antrim and north county Down. Every other county in Ulster, let alone the rest of Ireland, vote Nationalist. So unionism has basically already lost but like a zombie, it will keep hanging on until the border poll in the next decade puts it out of its misery. Funny part is the most miserable people who suffer from unionism are unionists.

  • @vercoda9997
    @vercoda9997 6 років тому +413

    I'm from a Border town, and grew up with currencies, friends, events and politics split between both territories. I also grew up during The Troubles, with terrorism affecting people I knew, and endless experiences of nervous Squaddies swinging a gun in my face. I have other Border links, too, so it's fair to say I grasp the related issues very, very clearly.
    As such, I'm sorry to say that the vast majority of British people - or should I say, English people - know nothing about the North, and care even less. I've long, long since stopped being surprised at the often shocking knowledge many such people have about the North, and the Border, which is just something that it seems the vast majority of British people associate with a problem 'over there' associated with the deeply unloved, unwanted part of the United Kingdom, rather than being a distinct problem for the body politic as a whole to overcome.
    To this day, and this is where I Am shocked, the vast majority of Brexiteers either entirely ignore even acknowledging that the Border represents a significant, complex problem, or else they casually, blithely shrug it off as a trifling matter of no consequence and Why Haven't We Left The EU Yet?!
    You'd almost despair at the almost proud ignorance on display, but that's just the way of it. Northern Ireland voted by a majority to stay in the EU, with the Northern Irish grasping the political, economic and societal harm that Brexit represents. But their will to remain has seen them required to sacrifice themselves, seemingly so that Nigel and pals can gad about, throwing shapes, free entirely of the consequence and impact of Brexit 'over there'.
    No wonder it's been such a chaotic farce, to date, even ignoring the DUP's games as a minority propping up political corpse Mrs May, to enact a future that the majority in Northern Ireland democratically oppose.
    It would be a farce if it wasn't such a tragedy...

    • @MoontownMoss
      @MoontownMoss 6 років тому +19

      Best comment.

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому +25

      Ver Coda
      Northern Ireland voted for the United Kingdom as a whole to stay in the EU. The United Kingdom as whole voted to leave.
      You are very quick to blame English people for not understanding the issue before the vote, but clearly the same can be said of people in Northern Ireland. How come the percentage of remain voters in NI went up after the outcome was known, and all the talk about backstops etc started up? Surely they should have been more attuned to the issues than English people, but they weren't, were they, or the percentage would not have increased. I was in NI before and after the vote, and not one person mentioned the border as a factor in their decision to remain. One person lived one side of the border and worked on the other and even he was not bothered.
      Just some context for you: people in London couldn't give a hoot if Birmingham announced they were going to go independent of the rest of the UK so it should not surprise you that they are not overly upset about Northern Ireland - it really isn't personal.

    • @eoinenglish7659
      @eoinenglish7659 6 років тому +6

      Well said Ver Coda

    • @jmcc8156
      @jmcc8156 6 років тому +18

      Ver coda
      Don't you think that perhaps what they can't quite grasp is, 'How can it possibly be true that there will be violence and terrorism in Northern Ireland if there is a customs border?' In fairness, it is not rational is it? But then again, as you know, nothing that happened in Northern Ireland was rational: people wanted basic civil rights available everywhere else in the UK, these were denied, and then, for reasons beyond understanding, it escalated into mindless violence that no one seemed able to stop. It achieved nothing except to leave 3,700 people dead, thousands injured, and a legacy of hatred, fear and suspicion between the two communities that still exists in some parts to this day. There was nothing normal about it that makes it easy to understand. People in England don't understand it because they don't go around killing each other with the sustained madness that existed in Northern Ireland during that time. Not understanding is not the same as not caring.
      www.tate.org.uk/art/archive/items/tga-201020-5-4/atkinson-colour-photograph-of-a-billboard-illustrating-the-number-of-people-killed-during

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 6 років тому +31

      @@jmcc8156 well the origins of the troubles started in Spring 1968 when a peaceful Irish civil rights March in the north took place aka the Irish Spring they wanted the abuse and discrimination they had suffered for decades to end and the Unionists refused then some people believed the only way to get equal treatment was to fight for it then In 1969 the troubles begun and I honestly believe had the troubles not happened the abuse and discrimination would still be happening it was only after the fighting started that the global world turned its attention to the North sending reporters there to find out what was happening they then learned of many story's of decades long abuse and discrimination inc Gerrymandering and massive failings by the British government in Westminster to provide equality for the Catholic minority and after 29 years 1998 was when the Troubles ended in the Good Friday Agreement and 20 years later we have had considerably stable peace of course the troubles was a horrible time but people need to remember the British government themselves on numerous occasions collaborated with loyalist militia's to kill innocent civilians and many to this day do not understand why the troubles happened even tho when you look into it its very clear to see and I know you won't like this but I 100% believe the only reason we have equal rights in the north was because we rose up

  • @fauldsb
    @fauldsb 6 років тому +548

    You need to go back a lot more than 100 years...

    • @davidgrover5996
      @davidgrover5996 6 років тому +57

      fauldsb, That would tend to screw up their dishonest narrative.

    • @declanmcardle
      @declanmcardle 5 років тому +30

      1199 would be a good start...

    • @davidhughes5125
      @davidhughes5125 5 років тому +10

      YEAH our day will come

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 5 років тому +46

      Yep. All the way back to the plantations of ulster in the 1600s. Thats really where all of these problems started

    • @johnmeyler8080
      @johnmeyler8080 5 років тому +2

      fauldsb t

  • @spaghettieastern88
    @spaghettieastern88 6 років тому +425

    I've seen so many videos and I am surprised that the UK still has no idea what is going on in Northern Ireland and why it's so important. Can't tell if it's ignorance or stupidity

    • @CyclingInKilkenny
      @CyclingInKilkenny 6 років тому +101

      It's ignorance, they barely learn about Ireland in school. In comparison people in Ireland learn lots about the UK and Europe.
      It's scary that people in the UK exist that still think the entire island of Ireland is owned by the UK.... Ignorance beyond belief.

    • @roscobhoy
      @roscobhoy 6 років тому +41

      @@CyclingInKilkenny try changing northern irish sterling anywhere in the uk. The result are hilarious........

    • @philipjbenjamin
      @philipjbenjamin 6 років тому +7

      Matt McDyre These issues are very complex. If you don’t struggle to keep the details of just this issue in your head you are a much brighter person than me. This is why videos such as this one are so helpful. And to my amazement we have here a news organisation offering to make the news easier to understand. To do their job. Let’s be positive, encourage and make the most of this!

    • @TheNoobPube
      @TheNoobPube 6 років тому +27

      @@CyclingInKilkenny I don't know anyone in England who thinks the UK owns all of ireland. I know alot however who don't even know northern island is part of the uk

    • @reggie42012
      @reggie42012 6 років тому +2

      @Adolf Shitler no worries, I'll be put the kettle on for your expected arrival. We'll have loads of surprises to share with you over a cuppa

  • @daramcgrath
    @daramcgrath 6 років тому +164

    It is not the Irish Border. It is the British border in Ireland. The British put it there in 1922. Get the facts right!

    • @ItsDeffoScott
      @ItsDeffoScott 6 років тому +6

      Wrong

    • @fionawilliams6276
      @fionawilliams6276 6 років тому +8

      @@ItsDeffoScott
      Then who made the border, if it was not the British?
      Santa Clause?

    • @ernestrogen4639
      @ernestrogen4639 6 років тому +10

      Ah here we go again Republican lies changing history. Your leaders agreed to the irish Border when they divided Ireland when most of its British regs from Ireland where fighting Germany. You agreed to the border instead of fighting a full internal war which would have left 100,000 dead in this country. Pity you republicans dont like to tell the truth about our history.

    • @susn1987
      @susn1987 6 років тому +6

      @@ernestrogen4639 bullshit, they were threatened with war if they didn't agree. It was forced on them, you jingoistic madmen just understand the difference.

    • @janroach1852
      @janroach1852 6 років тому +3

      Now Michael Collins of the IRA who was negotiating the deal did not have a choice. In fact he was gunned down by the IRA for signing that treaty. It was either split the country and take most of it or continue to be occupied. He made the devil's bargain and I believe he made the right choice. Basically, though, I believe the IRA made the decision so they could live to fight another day.

  • @rycooder9486
    @rycooder9486 5 років тому +130

    Mother Nature already put a free flow border between UK and Ireland...here representing the EU..it tis called the Irish Sea

    • @blindtherapper2470
      @blindtherapper2470 5 років тому +2

      @Veganism Kills
      1) "...and that is a fact"
      Umm, no, it's not unless you can magically predict the future.
      2) The Irish didn't take Ireland from the Scots because Scots emerged later (9th century) as a mix of Gaels (which already included the Irish) and Pictish people who ruled over Ireland and Pictland respectively... what you say is impossible and historically incorrect.

    • @blindtherapper2470
      @blindtherapper2470 5 років тому +1

      @Veganism Kills
      1) no, its fucking not, you can't forsee the future and every idiot who ever studied history knows that everything's possible and that history is full of "impossible" things and events. I suggest you open up a dictionary and look up the word "fact", you obviously don't know the meaning
      2) what do you mean with "we"? Are you northern IRISH with an identity crysis? A scotsman who has no clue about general history? An Englishman who is talking just because of one-sided national politics?
      3) how can I not refute anything you said? Do you suffer from a lack of sleep? If the Scottish people came centuries after the irish, in what right mind could the irish steal ireland, the territory named after them which was also the cradle of their culture, from them?
      Sound more like you're talking out of blind nationalism rather than logics or knowledge.

  • @ultanbeare
    @ultanbeare 6 років тому +656

    Not the Irish border it's the British border in Ireland ... our border is the beach .

    • @czarzenana5125
      @czarzenana5125 6 років тому +31

      No technically you are wrong. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain and therefor the border with Ireland is not of Britain, but of the UK. You could call it the Irish border of the UK or the Northern Irish border of Ireland or the UK border of the Republic of Ireland. It depends from which side you look at it. A border is not *in* a country.

    • @joannebridgetsimpson6260
      @joannebridgetsimpson6260 6 років тому +35

      @@czarzenana5125 You are wrong, the Irish constitution claims the right of the people of Ireland to ALL of the Island of Ireland - the border is one imposed by the british - which is why it is the British (possessive) boarder in Ireland.

    • @gavinhillick
      @gavinhillick 6 років тому +22

      @@czarzenana5125 It's a border in Ireland imposed by Brits: the British border in Ireland

    • @patrickdoyle9304
      @patrickdoyle9304 6 років тому +1

      You read that quip in the paper didn't you? Get your own material

    • @joannebridgetsimpson6260
      @joannebridgetsimpson6260 6 років тому +2

      @@patrickdoyle9304 does it make the statement less accurate?

  • @bosoerjadi2838
    @bosoerjadi2838 5 років тому +45

    Because the English decided by referendum that NI should leave the EU against its will, then it might be equally fair that the Northern Irish should decide by referendum what kind of backstop they'd prefer: the entire UK part of "a" customs union or the border in the Irish Sea.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 роки тому

      Not true..NI is part of uk

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 роки тому

      One brexit for all UK citizens

    • @sharonprice42
      @sharonprice42 Рік тому

      ​@@jojams2000N.Ireland and Scotland chose to remain. The people of London also chose to remain .

    • @sharonprice42
      @sharonprice42 Рік тому

      ​@joprocter4573 Why not let the ones who want to remain , remain .Cameron made a mistake

  • @MsCuisle
    @MsCuisle 5 років тому +50

    Give Northern Ireland back to the Irish. The Brita stole northern Ireland from the Irish. GIVE IT BACK

    • @Ricky911_
      @Ricky911_ 5 років тому +5

      Besides the majority of Northern Ireland voted to stay in the eu

    • @bennyrico4205
      @bennyrico4205 5 років тому

      thanks for that, SO,TRUE

    • @bennyrico4205
      @bennyrico4205 5 років тому

      correct, thanks for that

    • @ronholfly
      @ronholfly 5 років тому +1

      Cuisle Mise An obvious answer to this problem.

    • @mongomoonbladder8023
      @mongomoonbladder8023 5 років тому +1

      Make me same statement to an Orangeman, see what reply you get.

  • @niallowens6312
    @niallowens6312 6 років тому +118

    The north is already treated differently from the rest of the uk when it comes to abortion and gay marriage, tell the dup either they get with the uk on ALL laws or accept being treated differently

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому +5

      Niall Owens
      Yes Niall, if only Northern Ireland had both of those things all their problems would be gone.

    • @niallowens6312
      @niallowens6312 6 років тому +10

      @@jmac1152 Not the point, they (the DUP) want to be an exception when it comes to religious things but not when it comes to others. Either they get all the exceptions or none of them; give the DUP a taste of their own medicine (ie blackmail)

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому +1

      @@niallowens6312
      It was my point, regardless of whether or not it was yours.

    • @niallowens6312
      @niallowens6312 6 років тому +4

      @@jmac1152You made a flippant point that them having an exception from UK law on religious issues was irrelevant; it's not irrelevant because it's leverage to be used against them and the counter to any "no special deals" for Northern Ireland Brexiter bullshit. I wonder which the DUP would be more against; having to leave stop blocking laws because of their medieval religious beliefs or keeping the current trade arrangements which would actually benefit the North's economy substantially post-Brexit?

    • @seunalabi7686
      @seunalabi7686 6 років тому +4

      @@niallowens6312 is Of course your friendly enlightened Atheist who graciously shares his enlightened ideals with you and if you don't accept them freely well you better be made to accept it through any means or laws necessary, because FREEDOM!!!. Well done on taking the punch out of the Medieval word. You and other people like you obviously have no idea what the period was like, but OK just keep repeating it, if you say something long enough it'll become true

  • @emmaconroy5060
    @emmaconroy5060 6 років тому +27

    Northern Ireland is not London.
    Northern Ireland is not Dublin.
    There is a legal document stating this that no one seems to know about. If you're curious I believe -BELIEVE - it has something to do with the Good Friday Agreement.

    • @Fitlad75
      @Fitlad75 5 років тому +2

      It's the northern Irish fault they don't have an Assembly the past few years, not the british government!

  • @chadvlad69
    @chadvlad69 5 років тому +10

    Let's face it, Ireland SHOULD be united.

  • @Nickbaldeagle02
    @Nickbaldeagle02 6 років тому +84

    A video on why the public should not have been given a vote on something they know absolutely nothing about would be useful.

    • @firstname4865
      @firstname4865 6 років тому +4

      Lol the privilege of never been effected by the eu in a negative way. Remonaers are clueless

    • @ironhawk175
      @ironhawk175 6 років тому +7

      @@firstname4865 not sure if you mean Romanians, remainors or even Romans, if your going to make a point at least include basic grammar.

    • @ItsDeffoScott
      @ItsDeffoScott 6 років тому +3

      @@firstname4865 That's got nothing to do with the EU. If you're referring to Rotherham none of those men came from another EU country. You've just backed up his point, you aren't informed enough to vote on this.

    • @ItsDeffoScott
      @ItsDeffoScott 6 років тому +4

      @@firstname4865 Cite your sources that they're refugees? I bet they aren't and I bet you can't. And FYI you can't just walk into the UK. You keep showing yourself to be woefully stupid, nothing backed by logic, just made up tired Conservative talking points.

    • @Gruxxan
      @Gruxxan 6 років тому +2

      dont you think its a terrible reflection on the EU if the people whom it governs know nothing about it? if the public know nothing at all about, that to me is a very good reason not be part of it. unless the electorate being kept like sheep in the dark is desirable to you, and carry on voting for the things they are told to vote for because its 'for the best'. sounds like prelude to dictatorship to me.

  • @SkyEcho7
    @SkyEcho7 6 років тому +32

    You'd have thought the Tory Eurosceptics would have had to have a well developed WORKABLE plan for this BEFORE an EURef was allowed to be presented to the people 😶
    Failing that ... What was offered should have been REALISTIC!
    You missed a couple of vital points of information...
    1) the GFA/BA is a legally binding international agreement that was ONLY possible because both the UK & RoI were IN the EU.
    2) part of the GFA/BA is that the people of Northern Ireland have the RIGHT to be:
    a) British citizens
    b) Irish citizens
    c) British & Irish citizens
    b & c are protected by the ECHR & ECJ
    This is particularly important because the last time the Tories were in government lead by Thatcher they imprisoned people WITHOUT TRIAL!

    • @eoinenglish7659
      @eoinenglish7659 6 років тому +1

      Dead right.

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 6 років тому

      Absolutely spot on

    • @dinerouk
      @dinerouk 5 років тому +1

      It's been made a problem due to the EU and Ireland wanting to stop or at least, delay our exit from the EU.

  • @darkshinigami9438
    @darkshinigami9438 6 років тому +40

    Why not returning Northern Ireland to Ireland?? Problem solved. Greetings from France

    • @rkevo9112
      @rkevo9112 6 років тому +1

      the demographs are changing back in a way that it will happen soon

    • @darkshinigami9438
      @darkshinigami9438 6 років тому +2

      @anny791 Yep, except Kosovo is Serbia. But I agree Northern Ireland is Ireland.

    • @rivolinho
      @rivolinho 6 років тому +4

      @Jonathan NI.Loyalist Its always been Irish. You fuckers are just squatters who we havent been able to get rid of........................yet.

    • @willimations277
      @willimations277 6 років тому +1

      I wish it was that simple...

    • @binhilabi
      @binhilabi 6 років тому

      +Dark Shinigami long live Kosovo

  • @snowman01
    @snowman01 5 років тому +12

    Isn't avoiding a hard border denial? Northern Ireland is either British or Irish, stop pretending it's both

    • @liverturcxdanpavs
      @liverturcxdanpavs 5 років тому +3

      That's a very obtuse remark.

    • @BrianMcGuirkBMG
      @BrianMcGuirkBMG 4 роки тому +1

      Not denial. The Good Friday Agreement is an agreement between all the parties involved that there will be no hard border. It also sets out that citizens in Northern Ireland are free to choose to be either British or Irish or both. They are entitled to have Irish or British passports, or both. The generosity of brexiters to grant permission to NI to join the Ireland is simply a laughable demonstration of large scale indifference combined with ignorance.

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 5 років тому +21

    Ireland reunited , Scotland and Wales independent, and England annexed by France. That's the best case scenario.

    • @TheSegert
      @TheSegert 5 років тому +2

      you forgot something. France nuked. there that settles it.

    • @mscbijles1256
      @mscbijles1256 5 років тому

      @@TheSegert For whom or what would that be the best scenario?

    • @TheSegert
      @TheSegert 5 років тому +3

      @@mscbijles1256 For the world

    • @wiggyam1268
      @wiggyam1268 5 років тому

      @@mscbijles1256 stop being a lib. france deserves it

    • @heinrichhimmler8664
      @heinrichhimmler8664 5 років тому +2

      Gutten Morgan Britain

  • @grantorino2325
    @grantorino2325 6 років тому +61

    Great video!
    I'd just like to point something out, concerning your map, however: The Isle of Man 🇮🇲 is not now, nor has ever been, part of the European Union. 🇪🇺

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz 5 років тому +2

      How on *earth* do you survive??!!?!

    • @badboimatt675
      @badboimatt675 5 років тому +1

      @@mogznwaz he's just showing you that there is a place in the UK that functions perfectly well without a backstop or border checks... if you're smart it will also show you how evil Europe is.. use war as a pawn ehh? You'll see in the future when your vote and you mean nothing at all in any way whatsoever

    • @davefloyd9443
      @davefloyd9443 5 років тому +7

      @@badboimatt675 IOM is not and never has been part of Great Britain.
      It is self governing and claims the oldest Parliament in the world, The Tynwald (979AD)
      It is a British Protectorate, but makes, polices and prosecutes its own laws.
      Its not in the EU but it doesn't have a land border so Brexit not an issue for their legislature.

    • @Patmofar
      @Patmofar 5 років тому +2

      @@badboimatt675 The only problem with your Farage, Brexiteer 'fact' is the inconvenient truth that the Isle of Man is NOT a part of the UK just as it is not a part of the EU either. You used the word smart in your comment, you most certainly are not smart. Fool. You don't even speak proper English.

    • @Patmofar
      @Patmofar 5 років тому +2

      @YoubouZeke The Isle of Man is a Crown dependency but is NOT a part of either England nor the UK and it has not been ruled by the Earl of Derby since 1594. It has its own parliament, the Tynwald, the oldest continuous Parliament in the world.

  • @sakiyaabdi1842
    @sakiyaabdi1842 5 років тому +92

    I've been watching the news for 2years and never understood anything🙄🤔, thanks for simplifying this 😆👍🏽

    • @BMF604
      @BMF604 5 років тому +18

      Sakiya Abdi be careful with these online videos claiming to explain political situations. They contain the most propaganda I have ever seen in online videos trying to sway your opinion in one direction or the other.

    • @fullenglishbreakfast3289
      @fullenglishbreakfast3289 5 років тому +4

      Don't believe anything the main stream media tells you it's all bullshit

    • @jimmyramsay8005
      @jimmyramsay8005 3 роки тому

      @@BMF604 where is the propaganda in this video?

  • @JHatLpool
    @JHatLpool 6 років тому +24

    There is one minor error in this film. In the shading of the map, the Isle of Man is shown to be within the EU. Of course, it is not. So, for example, capital punishment is still permissible in the Isle of Man (e. g. hanging) if found guilty of an act which would is deemed a crime by a Manx court. Capital punishment is not allowed within a member state within in the EU.
    The fact that the IOM allows far more flexible banking regulations also means that it is unlikely that the IOM would become an EU member state for the foreseeable future.
    I just thought that I would point that out to you all.

    • @monithorburn1301
      @monithorburn1301 5 років тому +2

      Lucky IOM!!

    • @TheIamIrving
      @TheIamIrving 5 років тому +2

      @@monithorburn1301 Capital punishment on the IOM was formally abolished in 1993. Nobody had been executed since 1872.

  • @tosh_thedude
    @tosh_thedude 5 років тому +37

    Its not an Irish Border. Its an English border in Ireland. Fact! #channel4

    • @saschacat
      @saschacat 5 років тому +1

      Yeah so do the people of Northern Ireland want to be out of the UK?

    • @tosh_thedude
      @tosh_thedude 5 років тому +3

      @@saschacat yes, so 65% of people voted to remain in the EU. That doesnt take away from the fact its an english border in Ireland.

    • @Fitlad75
      @Fitlad75 5 років тому

      Idiot, the border was agreed with the republic. I'm sure a unified Ireland is innevitable one day. If they wanted to leave the UK that's entirely up to them, nothing is stopping them.

    • @badboimatt675
      @badboimatt675 5 років тому +2

      @@Fitlad75 Of course it is inevitable, as more real Irish go over to Northern Ireland the "people's vote" will of course go the unification way. Those English who went and stole the land of Ireland 100's of years ago will not be able to keep breeding at the same rate... Unification and war is indeed inevitable, it's when not if.
      Will that vote be respected tho? Now that is the question

    • @davefloyd9443
      @davefloyd9443 5 років тому +1

      @@badboimatt675 War? Inevitable? Jeez, grow up, how many more people do you think need to die before these lines on a map are removed?

  • @philipberthiaume2314
    @philipberthiaume2314 6 років тому +4

    It's unsolvable, Britain is lost control. When I first heard of Brexit, my very first assumption was Scotland was going to hold another referendum for independence and second: Ireland was going to be a huge problem. I never thought that brexit would win because of these.

  • @peterstill3760
    @peterstill3760 6 років тому +12

    The solution offered by the EU is the only sensible one. Contrary to what the Tories say, it does not mean putting a border in the sea between the UK and NI. For one thing NI is the UK. For a second, checking trade at the ports is the only logical and practical thing to do, since there are only a limited number of ports, and does not entail putting down a border whereas putting a physical border would be costly and inefficient. This should not have been a problem where it not the DUP. The DUP is a crazy bunch who fight to keep NI within the UK. But NI is the UK. All this is craziness graduating to the state level. The next logical thing would be to call for an election and hope that the new house can strike a reasonable deal. But wait, Corbyn could win and that would not be good. But would that be worse than the current situation, ie the government being taken hostage by the DUP ? Not so clear.

    • @victorcheck
      @victorcheck 6 років тому +1

      Wouldn't be the first time Unionists over here dictated terms to a UK government. They have a long track record of that dating back to 1912. The fear is that in all but one of those occasions, the UK side capitulated to them.

    • @elizabethhoare44
      @elizabethhoare44 6 років тому

      YOU ARE AS THICK AS 2 SHORT PLANKS,PETER GOD BLESS YOU

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 роки тому

      What about 3 yrs hostage before by beret squad

  • @IgorTerrible
    @IgorTerrible 5 років тому +10

    The "Fences and Checkpoints" were a response to the troubles, not the cause as the video implies at 1:09

    • @Snaakie83
      @Snaakie83 5 років тому +1

      That's not what he says...he says that people don't want the borders back.

    • @FrightfulAccountant
      @FrightfulAccountant 5 років тому

      The Berlin Wall also was a response to certain troubles, but that does not mean people in Berlin would want their wall back, any time soon...

    • @christymurphiesplumsmurphi6112
      @christymurphiesplumsmurphi6112 5 років тому

      Fences?? response to the troubles??? what are you talking about? your ignorance is off the scale...have you ever been here...no thought not...LOL

  • @jeroenjansen2709
    @jeroenjansen2709 5 років тому +7

    I regard the Irish as my friends by default. I am for a united Ireland.

  • @005AGIMA
    @005AGIMA 6 років тому +4

    I hadn't thought about this until I visited Ireland and NI last year, and then it hit me. Brexit could send Ireland/NI way back to a place it should have never needed to endure. I Live in Australia now, but am originally from England and grew up in the times of the bombings and terrorism. I'm from the generation that knows why British railway stations dont have rubbish bins on the platform. Given I don't live there anymore I'm fairly neutral on Brexit, but I guess I lean toward it a little. HOWEVER the Ireland/NI Issue is a really complicated and potentially devastating one. There should NEVER be a hard boarder ever again.

  • @Jim54_
    @Jim54_ Рік тому +1

    When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
    This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
    People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since…

  • @jimbo2262
    @jimbo2262 5 років тому +13

    I have a very simple solution to this problem: Dissolve the United Kingdom, let Northern Ireland secede and then unify with the Republic of Ireland. Let Scotland gain independence, rename the country England and Wales (a bit like Serbia and Montnegro 16 years ago). If Wales wants to become an independent country in the future, they can leave the union too. Countries merge and split throughout human history, it's not a big deal really.

    • @tomoxfford
      @tomoxfford 5 років тому +4

      NI already have the option of leaving the UK, they just need to vote on it and the UK govt promised (over 20 years ago) to accept any such result. NI should be left in the customs union with the EU and the Unionists should accept that as the best possible compromise, particularly as most of NI voted to remain in the EU.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz 5 років тому +2

      Yes, so why is it such a big deal if the UK wants to leave the EU 'project'? Oh yes I know, because it needs our money!

  • @MrProzacmilkshake
    @MrProzacmilkshake 5 років тому +67

    give Ireland back to the Irish

    • @someguysomewhere100
      @someguysomewhere100 5 років тому +4

      That would be so easy if the people of northern Ireland didn't want to remain British, but they do..... You can't handover an area to another country without the permission of the people living there.

    • @tobalaba
      @tobalaba 5 років тому

      @e james they will

    • @MrArthurGiles
      @MrArthurGiles 5 років тому +5

      MrProzacmilkshake, what you are really saying is give NI to the EU, don´t you think the Protestants in NI are human ? Don´t Protestants have any say in their country´s future ? It´s the EU that is stirring up trouble as part of THEIR empire building, Eire is already in the hands of a foreigner who bows low to Brussels.
      If you´ve got nothing good to say - don´t say anything.

    • @seatosea6184
      @seatosea6184 5 років тому

      U.K. should absorb Irland, then adopt the China/Hong Kong model...One U.K., two systems.

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz 5 років тому +3

      Ireland is already Irish. The Northern Irish are still Irish!!!

  •  5 років тому +1

    Historically, UK made borders of many countries - Middle East, India. Etc. If Brexit happens, probably time for Northern Ireland to become Independent or unite with Ireland.

  • @jens9308
    @jens9308 6 років тому +3

    I think you need to go back more than 100 years. Ireland became a union with Britain in the 1800, up till then it was under military occupation. The invasion of Ireland started with Henry VIII, followed by ethnic cleansing under Elizebeth and final conquest by act of union in 1800. The majority of Irish people have never accepted English presence in Ireland, hence the troubles and the unnatural border.

  • @BrendanGuildea
    @BrendanGuildea 6 років тому +12

    Thank you!!! I never understood what the backstop was until now. Bit of a Catch-22 on a number of fronts for poor Teresa! Bless!

  • @qwertykeyboard7640
    @qwertykeyboard7640 2 роки тому +1

    The point of the Good Friday agreement was that the status of Northern Ireland could not be changed without the consent of all the people on both Northern Ireland and Southern ireland. This included their membership of the European Union. Northern Ireland status within the United Kingdom has been different ever since then. Brexit simply highlighted the difference. The Unionist voted for the Good Friday agreement partly because their majority was coming to an end and they wanted to protect their status within the uk it just so happened that is what against them The UK government has no legal jurisdiction to change the status of Northern Ireland. The fact the uk changed its status within Europe is nothing to do with Northern Ireland. It is only agreement that is keeping Northern Ireland at peace. Both the The United Nations and the United States are cosignatures to all this agreement. Entire uk is more likely to break up before this agreement is broken. The UK including Northern Ireland has several differences and laws amongst the constituent States already Abortion and gay marriage is illegal in the North Open Ireland bank accounts cannot be access from England There is already differences between Northern Ireland Scotland Wales and England. And fyi Ireland was never been always British. The British govement has attempted to invade and Pacify this island on and off for the last 900 years. They attempted various methods including forfeiture and regrant plantation especially in the north east. Starvation laws against the majority religion deportation to far flung colony. Althpugh there are people here of british desenct they are in the minority. Ij yhe south they have integrated peacefully and learnt our culture. Ireland has a uniquely differant race culture and sports from the uk. The unionists who have been here for approx 400 years only reason to exist was to usurp and act as Britain's whip hand over the irish. Without that identity they have nothing and are noone. They also fear terribly revenge attacks by the natives should any United Republic happen. The fact is the south has all backgrounds and all life together peacefully

  • @sebastiankallenbach332
    @sebastiankallenbach332 5 років тому +10

    Fact check: Ireland was part of the United Kingdom NOT part of Britain (duh). In fact it was the (forced) union with Ireland that engendered the term 'UK'.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 років тому +1

      In Italy we usually refer to the UK as simply England.

    • @veronicathomas485
      @veronicathomas485 5 років тому +3

      @@arx3516 That is what is worrying to the Scots, Welsh and residents in the North of Ireland. We lose our individual identities.

  • @rkevo9112
    @rkevo9112 6 років тому +12

    brexit is a british problem, as is the border. neither were caused by the irish or the eu.

  • @whiterhino5027
    @whiterhino5027 5 років тому +7

    We will build a great wall on our southern border. And we're going to make Ireland pay for that wall.

  • @MCGreen13
    @MCGreen13 6 років тому +25

    No mention of the fact the UK already signed up to the backstop and are just now back peddling?
    Or how the onus is on the British to maintain the soft border as guaranteed in the GFA?
    Or how NI voted against brexit?
    Or how the DUP certainly do not represent all unionists?

    • @GorinRedspear
      @GorinRedspear 6 років тому +2

      What, facts? Who needs facts when we can sit down and have tea and a biscuit and feel superior to all non-British?

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 5 років тому +2

      Arlene Foster going on about "the people of Northern Ireland" as though they overwhelmingly support Brexit and the DUP's approach to Brexit when they overwhelmingly voted Remain, she's talking through a hole in her head.
      It's people like her and the ERG who culdn't care less about peace in Northern Ireland that have put the Good Criday Agreement at risk as long as they get the most extreme of hard Brexits they want.

  • @tigressnsnow
    @tigressnsnow 5 років тому +3

    Unite the north with the south. The Irish lived like this before. They can do this again. Get rid of the border. A united Ireland will be great. They can squabble amongst themselves like all other countries. Catholics & Protestants live side by side everywhere. Stop the nonsense and the division.

  • @HobbittMan64
    @HobbittMan64 3 роки тому +5

    Little historical inaccuracy: Ireland split before the Republic of Ireland was independent because during the war, the parliament in Westminster passed the Irish home rule bill which split Ireland into two, Southern Ireland and Northern Ireland, which would both be part of the uk and had their own parliaments. One in Belfast and one in Dublin.

    • @loulou2817
      @loulou2817 Рік тому

      Eh, no - back to school for you.

  • @Turtytreeandaturd
    @Turtytreeandaturd 6 років тому +69

    I'm still to find the 48kmh sign post..😁

    • @MR.Mehran61
      @MR.Mehran61 6 років тому +1

      LOL

    • @mokkorista
      @mokkorista 6 років тому +8

      Coz it's 50 :P

    • @PanglossDr
      @PanglossDr 6 років тому +7

      Someone got a calculator for his birthday

  • @lenahughes7867
    @lenahughes7867 6 років тому +13

    The problem lies with UK entirely

  • @columbannon9134
    @columbannon9134 5 років тому +4

    Ireland was never a part if Britain, all of Ireland was ruled by England. 100 years ago all of Ireland could have been independent, if they had not listened to the protestants in the north, Ireland would have been today United and without these problems that came when then island was split.

    • @columbannon9134
      @columbannon9134 5 років тому

      @Veganism Kills the Scots was an old Irish tribe during the time of Irish kings such as Uí Néill known as Imperatar Scottarum (emperor of the Scotts)that later had invaded the Picts, and later left a foot print that Scotland is named after. SO SCOTLAND IS IRISH

  • @rationalword1907
    @rationalword1907 6 років тому +24

    Using the terms "Britain" and "UK" interchangeably doesn't gibe me confidence that this is a good piece of journalism.

    • @eoinenglish7659
      @eoinenglish7659 5 років тому +1

      Fair point.

    • @ulicadluga
      @ulicadluga 5 років тому +2

      There are all sorts of idiosyncracies when it comes to giving this part of the world names. The term "Britain" is linked to "British". During the troubles the "Nationalists" were fighting the "British" (troops etc.)
      Technically Ireland is part of the "British Isles", I suppose most Unionists consider themselves British. Thus "Britain" is not a clearly defined term and encompasses self-identification. For the Romans the "Britanii" were just one of the islands' tribes.
      The United Kingdom is a contractual construct based on treaties between different people's, governments and rulers of parts of the British Isles.
      Thus I see nothing terribly wrong in interchanging the terms "Britain" and "United Kingdom" when even the smartest politicians, historians and the general public cannot be absolutely certain about their aptness - mainly because "British" history is quite muddle.

  • @paulphilipempey1
    @paulphilipempey1 5 років тому +4

    Nicely done! Straightforward and concise. Thanks for the download.

  • @tomjeffersonwasright2288
    @tomjeffersonwasright2288 6 років тому +1

    Correction. Ireland was always a complete and single country…..until Britain invaded and conquered the smaller, weaker country, in order to rob its resources. And when Irish freedom lovers booted out the Brits from most of Ireland, the part that remained enslaved was still a part of Ireland occupied by the UK. It is the imperialism of the British that is the problem, NOT the freedom loving citizens of the free Irish Republic.

  • @poli4869
    @poli4869 5 років тому +5

    Nothern Ireland should belong to Ireland, not Britstan!

  • @Richard-r7u6c
    @Richard-r7u6c 6 років тому +9

    Whether you like May or not, being the pm isn't easy right now

    • @ironhawk175
      @ironhawk175 6 років тому +2

      she's an alien in human skin

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 6 років тому

      Why do you think Cameron left, and most of the Tory hotshots at the time refused the job?

  • @PressEntertainmentLLC
    @PressEntertainmentLLC 9 місяців тому +1

    Ireland has created Bretix before a Bretix was thought of ,why is colonialism debt and dependency?????

  • @ThomasTheWankEngine1
    @ThomasTheWankEngine1 5 років тому +9

    Ireland before it was part of the The United Kingdom, was just Ireland... Get your facts right. I don't care for ANY politics by the way. Just don't warp history. It is what it is I believe.

  • @user46346bdtgry
    @user46346bdtgry 6 років тому +13

    NI is already treated differently from the rest of the UK in many ways, from flag bearing to gay rights to abortion.
    I’m sick of the DUP being obstructionist. They either let NI be treated the same & get all the benefits of progression, or DUP accept they want to be treated differently and sea border is brought in

    • @edwardtanner6393
      @edwardtanner6393 6 років тому +1

      Joe id rather we be treated like the rest of the uk.

    • @mikesmith8278
      @mikesmith8278 6 років тому

      Nedd to abort Ireland and flush all down the dunny like a baby feutus,

    • @edwardtanner6393
      @edwardtanner6393 6 років тому

      @@mikesmith8278 didnt say that when there was two world wars to fight...

    • @Grugthegruggr
      @Grugthegruggr 5 років тому

      @@mikesmith8278 ouch.. maybe if abortion was legal at the time your mum was pregnant with you, we wouldn't have this bigotry mess that can't spell 'need'

    • @clancywiggam
      @clancywiggam 3 роки тому

      @@mikesmith8278 Nice spelling, Mike.

  • @mogznwaz
    @mogznwaz 5 років тому +1

    I can't believe so many Irish people go on about land 'stolen' from them 1000 years ago. That's like the English complaining about France because of the Normans, who slaughtered all the locals, or the Romans who slaughtered the pagans and imposed Christianity, or Norway because of the Vikings. The Vikings came they marauded and now they are indistinguishable as 'British' because that's just how it was. This historical revisionism is absolutely pointless unless it's within living memory.

  • @public.public
    @public.public 3 роки тому +3

    The problem is brexit. Not the border.

  • @philippenachtergal6077
    @philippenachtergal6077 5 років тому +3

    A border would risk "troubles" not just "because borders do" but because the good Friday agreement explicitly states that there will be "no new checks" at the border. So no physical border and no automated software checks either if you follow the agreement to the letter. And if you don't follow it to the letter, the risk is huge because there are still plenty of people that have kind of accepted the agreement but still resent it for one reason or another.

  • @frenchcookingschool
    @frenchcookingschool 6 років тому

    Tell how a democratic vote for Irish independence was ignored by Britain almost 100 years ago and why now this British border is biting back!

  • @scully0105
    @scully0105 6 років тому +5

    The border between Northern Irealnd and the Republic of Ireland is ~500 Km. Use the metric system to measure distances.

    • @allenwilliams1306
      @allenwilliams1306 5 років тому

      Why?

    • @dianamaioru497
      @dianamaioru497 5 років тому +1

      @Allen Williams
      Because everyone in the world except the USA use it! Yes- even the UK officially.

  • @gabrielorsi3599
    @gabrielorsi3599 5 років тому +11

    Hahaha that's a VERY British-centric view... Ireland came into existence under British rule? No mention of how Ulster became unionist?
    Let's not forget how the Irish border is the sea, the issue is with a British border in Ireland.
    Good luck sinking on your own.

    • @PeterNgola
      @PeterNgola 5 років тому

      No I think we'll do just fine thank you.

  • @thisrandomdude2880
    @thisrandomdude2880 6 років тому +1

    Ireland, the Middle-East, the Indian subcontinent, like, ALL of Africa, what did the British NOT mess up?

  • @mjw12345
    @mjw12345 6 років тому +12

    As usual, Channel 4 excellent. Thanks for making it blatantly clear, it was NOT, NEVER was, a religious war. It was a war of loyalties to London or Dublin. To present it as a religious war was/is extremely useful to London, washing their hands of responsibilities for immense violation of human rights that they countenanced since 1922.
    As for Ireland also exiting the EU: grow up!
    Ireland has been involved in the idea of Europe for 1500 years - schools, monasteries, missionaries. Ireland safeguarded the treasures of Europe during the darkest ages, Latin and Ancient Greek. In our time, it was Ireland that established Erasmus so all the young people - even without any financial means - could study everywhere in member states. More than 90% Irish are for this immense New Europe that is the emergent EU. Sure, every hour of every day must be devoted to making a better EU and there are ongoing catastrophes with neo-Fascists on the prowl or in control (Poland, Hungary, Czech) - there needs a mechanism for expulsion.

    • @eoinenglish7659
      @eoinenglish7659 6 років тому

      Good post. Totally agree.

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому

      The mechanism for expulsion is article 50....ironically.

    • @willimations277
      @willimations277 6 років тому

      It's sad I had to scroll down this far to see a reasonable comment. Thank you!

    • @caleb4790
      @caleb4790 5 років тому +1

      U speak some bull , ireland want eu for 1500 years ,they still thought the earth was flat

  • @mat7279
    @mat7279 6 років тому +4

    The most northern point on the island of ireland is in the republic of Ireland so it makes no the sense to call the country southern Ireland.

  • @nickrad6966
    @nickrad6966 5 років тому +1

    How are Ireland an independent sovereign nation, anyway? I don't understand how the IRA, Irish nationalists etc don't despise Brussels, although they aren't controlled militarily, their debt was bought by the EU and they are controlled monetarily. This is the 21st century mode of empire. They have no currency and their laws are devolved power from a superseding foreign empire. Please explain how this differs from British rule... Purely because the Irish chose to be controlled, rather than forced? They still aren't truly independent, and this new border situation will go from a non-existent border between EU and EU to a border between UK and the EU...

    • @nickrad6966
      @nickrad6966 5 років тому

      @@IHeartDublin My point still stands, Britain ruled by force, the EU rules by Irish choice. You still aren't independent and never will be.

  • @michaelportaloo1981
    @michaelportaloo1981 6 років тому +17

    Thanks, the background music really helped me listen to the words.

  • @alexisentonfire
    @alexisentonfire 5 років тому +56

    There's no such thing as an Irish boarder, its a British boarder in Ireland. dammit

    • @catsnmi270
      @catsnmi270 5 років тому +3

      Border!

    • @tosh_thedude
      @tosh_thedude 5 років тому

      Exactly

    • @catsnmi270
      @catsnmi270 5 років тому

      @@tosh_thedude Now, now, boys, stop arguing and mind your language in front of the children!

    • @rycooder9486
      @rycooder9486 5 років тому

      Tis true!....

    • @rycooder9486
      @rycooder9486 5 років тому

      @e james King James I presume

  • @lilyi9794
    @lilyi9794 6 років тому +1

    So many things wrong in this video and these comments. You need to be so educated before you talk about Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

  • @goldenoak8164
    @goldenoak8164 5 років тому +5

    Interesting, but there are too many background sound effects which are distracting.

  • @GaryMorris82
    @GaryMorris82 6 років тому +6

    The British politicians forgot they partitioned the Island of Ireland nearly a hundred years ago.

    • @davidclark1952
      @davidclark1952 5 років тому

      Gary Morris was not only British Irish too

    • @neiljennings1556
      @neiljennings1556 5 років тому

      Northern Irish politicians were complicit at the behest of Protestants, please do not blur history with patriotism

    • @neiljennings1556
      @neiljennings1556 5 років тому

      @Johnny R I am Scottish and the English army went through Scotland after the uprising here and killed every boy and Man they came across, the politicians and Clans both let our countries down, so when you say ''You Brits'' I think you need a history lesson

    • @neiljennings1556
      @neiljennings1556 5 років тому

      @Johnny R I'm pretty sure it was you that lectured me, I just showed you a different perspective. You cannot blame migration for you'r problems, that is a whole other topic. But you have to admit, there is hatred among you'r own people, you probably have more walls than Trump, and children are learning to hate because of their parents hatred, as a Christian country you have traveled as far from 'love you'r neighbour' as is possible. If you are born in Ireland then you are an Irishman, no matter where you'r forefathers came from. The British army were in Ireland at the behest of Irish Politicians, and I am on no-ones side here just stating historical facts. We have our own issues in Scotland over 'Brexit' and I'm guessing Independence will come one day, I am non-political, but I do know what's going on in the World.

    • @neiljennings1556
      @neiljennings1556 5 років тому

      @Johnny R Our Histories both have horror stories and both our peoples were pawns in Political games. You cannot blame migration whatever the politics of it, Scotland was carved up and given to those 'loyal to the crown' and to this day hundreds of thousands of acres and stately homes belong to the 'English' Lairds etc. but during Independence do you think they will be 'thrown out' of Scotland? As for you'r beef with 'Brits' in Ireland, who do you mean exactly?

  • @TT_1221
    @TT_1221 5 років тому

    This isn't about Nationalist or Unionist in Northern Ireland. British media still don't get it. The N Ireland border runs mostly through private property, that's why it cant function as an EU frontier. When it was put there 100 years ago, a "boundary commission" was set up. They were to revisit the issue and redraw it to make it more "workable". They never did, and it remained on county boundary lines ever since, i.e Private property. Its unlike any other EU frontier in Eastern Europe. This border cant protect the EU common market and remaking it a hard border would break the Belfast Peace treaty. The UK didn't do their homework before calling the Brexit referendum!!

  • @neomonk5668
    @neomonk5668 5 років тому +5

    Hello from the US. Thanks for the insight. Peace.

  • @johngreene1690
    @johngreene1690 6 років тому +14

    Not nearly good enough to explain the british imposed border in Ireland, its sensitivities and injustices. Desperately poor understanding of these issues in GB politics and wider public. The border was imposed by Westminster at huge human sacrifice. now they want Europe to pretend its not there!

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому

      @Paulo Chan I know that's what he meant, but it was barely a border in real term for many of the years leading up to 1968.

    • @johngreene1690
      @johngreene1690 6 років тому

      J Mac. Partition is a policy of the brits since 1921 resulting in a border. How on earth could a boarder be re introduced in 1968? Enough of it silly talk

    • @jmac1152
      @jmac1152 6 років тому

      @@johngreene1690
      The border that is referenced via the GFA is, in reality, the security installations that the army used to stop terrorist nipping across the border. That is the border I am referring to. The 1921 has existed since 1921 but it still exists today even if it can not be easily seen.

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 5 років тому

      The words snd actions of the tory government, the ERG, Farage and the DUP in confidence and supply arrangment with the tories since 2017 general election to allow the tories cling to power ever since the referendum have more or less ripped up the good friday agreement.
      None of them could care less about peace in Northern Ireland. Yet they all keep blaming everybody else but themselves. If the terror returms to Northern Ireland and bombing again on the UK mainland, it will be their fault for paving the way for it to return.

  • @tommasosantojanni
    @tommasosantojanni 5 років тому +1

    Why can't Britain propose to leave the border open, upholding the Good Friday Agreement, and let Ireland & the EU take the blame for closing it?

    • @tommasosantojanni
      @tommasosantojanni 5 років тому +1

      @Dylan O'HaraIt is an unnecessary complication to try to solve both unification and Brexit together or asking the UK to relinquish sovereignty over Northern Ireland.
      The Good Friday Agreement has already addressed unification. If I'm not wrong, this will happen by referendum once majorities shift. Basically, if I understand correctly, the Good Friday Agreement leaves it up to the People of Northern Ireland to determine their future and governance.
      My point is to let the EU and Ireland assume the responsibility for their choices.
      My question is why can't the UK leave the EU and leave the border completely open. Let the Irish government put up customs' checks and borders.

  • @arianrhodhyde7482
    @arianrhodhyde7482 6 років тому +8

    No explanation as to why the UK kept the north? And no mention of the systematic discrimination against catholics in the north that prompted the civil rights movement and exacerbated the troubles?

    • @triestodrum2215
      @triestodrum2215 6 років тому +1

      And the nationalists never done anything wrong. Perfect people. All the unionists fault. Catch yourself on.

    • @lakerosseau1346
      @lakerosseau1346 6 років тому +2

      It was the northern Irish that kept you from speaking German because you were afraid to fight Naziism . You also treated the veterans like animals. I guess killing is only good if it is against Protestants. Hitler was a Roman Catholic, Himmler also,and most Nazis.

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 5 років тому

      It's the unionists from both sides of the Irish sea that have been unilaterally ripping up the Good Friday Agreement. Yet they are blaming everybody else but themselves.

  • @HarlridersCVOIreland
    @HarlridersCVOIreland 6 років тому +16

    What do I have, said the fine old woman
    What do I have, this proud old woman did say
    I have four green fields, each one was a jewel
    But strangers came and tried to take them from me
    I have fine strong sons, who fought to save my jewels
    They fought and they died, and that was my grief said she
    Long time ago, said the fine old woman
    Long time ago, this proud old woman did say
    There was war and death, plundering and pillage
    My children starved, by mountain, valley and sea
    And their wailing cries, they shook the very heavens
    My four green fields ran red with their blood, said she
    What have I now, said the fine old woman
    What have I now, this proud old woman did say
    I have four green fields, one of them's in bondage
    In stranger's hands, that tried to take it from me
    But my sons had sons, as brave as were their fathers
    My fourth green field will bloom once again said she

    • @neiljennings1556
      @neiljennings1556 5 років тому

      I s this a song about Scotland? if not it should be

  • @ginnerize
    @ginnerize 5 років тому +2

    Make N Ireland part of the Republic of Ireland Then if the troubles start again it is a Republic Of Ireland EU problem. Irish and EU troops can walk the streets, NOT British troops..

    • @christymurphiesplumsmurphi6112
      @christymurphiesplumsmurphi6112 5 років тому

      there won't be any troubles here again thanks to the withdrawal the Brits and the Good Friday Agreement..and yes make Northern Ireland part of republic ireland...LOL! thats what the conflict was about you ignoramus!!

  • @svarthelikoptern
    @svarthelikoptern 6 років тому +15

    Get a feeling we were DUPed?

  • @smilerx8672
    @smilerx8672 5 років тому +12

    Its not an Irish border, its a british border put in Irish land. Look at the map ffs!! Absolute clowns to not understand this 🙈😂😂

    • @REBORNCENTRALGaming
      @REBORNCENTRALGaming 5 років тому +1

      Its not Britain, its Irish just under British control.

  • @johnrandle8365
    @johnrandle8365 3 роки тому +1

    The thing is the UK is trying to get into the EU through the back door if the UK can remove the protocol which seems highly unlikely seeing as they have SIGNED TO AGREE TO THE PROTOCOL, The Idea is to get UK goods without restrictions into NI then Slip them through into EU without any problem I am sure the EU is aware of this and will continue to hold up its part in dealing with the UK?

  • @rycooder9486
    @rycooder9486 5 років тому +7

    Gee..maybe if evryone stayed on their own island...or half island Miss UK, end of problem.

  • @terrestrialjellyfish
    @terrestrialjellyfish 5 років тому +7

    We want more of these cartoons explaining Brexit!!! They are the best, I show them to my students to get a better glimpse of the problem. Could you do one with updates now that May has left and BoJo is in?

    • @KarenMVCA
      @KarenMVCA 5 років тому

      BoJo may not be in much longer.

  • @malcolmtas5601
    @malcolmtas5601 5 років тому +1

    As an Australian, what I get out of this is: (a) no-one wants a border, and (b) after Brexit the EU will want to put tariffs on UK goods.
    Why is this a British problem? If the EU wants to put tariffs on UK goods, then it is up to them to find a way to do it. It will be no skin off Britain's nose if unregulated commerce occurs between the UK and the EU. If Ireland doesn't want a border, then they can either leave the EU as well (something I would advise) or else leave the trade with the UK unregulated, even if it gets up the nose of Brussels. In any case, it is not Britain's problem.

    • @dankjae
      @dankjae 5 років тому

      You have no knowledge of International trade do you? According to WTO Rules, third nations HAVE to put tariffs on others (all non-trade agreement countries) goods, especially Imports to usually protect internal suppliers, the only way to avoid tariffs is to have a free-trade agreement, which the UK and EU have failed to achieve. The EU doesn't really want to put tariffs, but as the UK becomes a third-nation OUTSIDE THE EU, the EU has no control what the UK does with its regulation, the UK could drastically change regulation to what would be illegal in the EU, therefore requiring checks to check goods and collect tariffs (to protect their businesses). The UK has said it may just cut import tariffs on goods (under WTO from EVERY NATION), hurting British Farmers, but the EU won't let the same happen to their farmers etc. No country who desires an independent trade policy like the UK and EU would simply allow a black market to happen normally as theoretically all regulation could be avoided and would damage their economies.
      Ireland doesn't need to leave the EU just because the UK did, Ireland is no longer the UK's puppet and will stand for what it wants. Ireland has overwhelmingly supported the EU more than the UK. Brexit is a British issue, Ireland will only sit and watch. Plus the worse that can happen to Ireland is you know, the Jobs Brexit brings to Ireland, possible Unification and increased influence as the only english-speaking nation in the EU.

  • @janroach1852
    @janroach1852 6 років тому +6

    They have to honor the Good Friday agreement. No hard borders in Northern Ireland. Seems to be unacceptable to the British but the hard border should be the Irish sea. Let them conduct customs on the U.K. proper. We in the USA do. Stop using Northern Ireland as a buffer. If they do make a hard border, that may be a gift to the Irish people who want reunification. Because the Unionists, while sympathetic to remaining in Britain (even though, technically, it is Irish territory) may change their tune and wish to stay with Ireland in the EU once the great economic pain of this decision hits. Best to avoid the question altogether and leave things as they are in Northern Ireland. Things are working out well now. Britain split the country and appropriated a piece of it. That has not turned out to be a wise decision.

    • @robinbailey7460
      @robinbailey7460 6 років тому

      "No hard borders in Northern Ireland. Seems to be unacceptable to the British" - No one wants a hard border but the EU , UK and Ireland can't agree on ways to make it stay a 'soft border.' Perhaps as an uneducated African I was taught the wrong cause of the Irish conflict. I was taught that the issues arose over conflict between Protestant and Catholic religious groups. The North being Protestant. Organised Religion (not Faith) has a lot to answer for: The spark that ignites many conflicts around the globe.

    • @robinbailey7460
      @robinbailey7460 6 років тому

      "We in the USA do" Re Borders. Why do many Americans (US) know better than anyone else? You should let Irish Americans have their own State and Government. Whose territory is the North American continent? It should belong the Native American Nations, not the invaders from other continents.

  • @valeriepvi3667
    @valeriepvi3667 5 років тому +8

    Historically many nations have been torn apart against their will and interest for various reasons -wars, invasions, greater powers political games. But that is a painful trauma that never will vanished.

  • @vinaydivakaran1651
    @vinaydivakaran1651 4 роки тому +1

    Crisp and clear info,kudos..

  • @danknecoarc7174
    @danknecoarc7174 5 років тому +10

    Brexit: *happens*
    The I.R.A: it’s rewind time.

  • @jennajalling3734
    @jennajalling3734 3 роки тому +7

    I thought you did such a good job explaining this. I grasped this really easily, and at the start of this video, all I knew was that there was such a thing called the Irish Backstop. Thanks a lot!

    • @BadDubII
      @BadDubII 2 роки тому +2

      I mean they left out some key details around Irelands history

  • @almadden
    @almadden 6 років тому +2

    I refer to your comment at 1:47. Ireland has never been part of Britain.
    We were occupied by the British as were lots of other counties around
    the world but we were never part of Britain. Also don't like the way you infer that Ireland is somehow stopping your exit . Britain created this mess not Ireland .

  • @Rick_Cleland
    @Rick_Cleland 6 років тому +7

    Gerry Adams killed my goldfish.

    • @roscobhoy
      @roscobhoy 6 років тому +3

      He might have cooked it. Tiocaidh ar Dinnear

    • @fintanstack2154
      @fintanstack2154 6 років тому +4

      Rick Cleek Was it a hate crime against an Orange fish ?

  • @kamsingh3260
    @kamsingh3260 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Irish brethren in the struggle. Your man udham Singh eternally grateful for your assistance. Singh owes you one.

  • @tanyastephens3187
    @tanyastephens3187 5 років тому +1

    Very useful indeed. Thank you.

  • @jamesb-ys1wz
    @jamesb-ys1wz 5 років тому +8

    Yeah my family were Catholic Northen Irish and we still want a united ireland

  • @TheSegert
    @TheSegert 5 років тому +9

    simple give the land back to its people. The irish.

  • @tomoxfford
    @tomoxfford 5 років тому +1

    In 1998 the UK promised to accept the result of any referendum held in Northern Ireland to leave the UK and re-form the island of Ireland. The fact that most people in the comments seem to think the UK should just hand back NI does not mean it could do even if it wanted to.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 роки тому

      Such a decision should not be made by EU citizens vote in NI or Ireland vote in NI. It should only be done by Northern Irish. And as serious as leaving a country should have strict minium of 75% of the vote of just ni.

    • @loulou2817
      @loulou2817 2 роки тому

      @Jo Procter As per the GFA, it will be voted on by the 32 counties & 50+% will be the minimum vote in both NI/Ireland. Only NI/Irish citizens are classed as electorates and able to vote.

  • @mickeencrua
    @mickeencrua 5 років тому +3

    You are seriously mistaken in the information you are broadcasting. The Good Friday/Belfast Agreement did not get rid of Customs checks. The necessity for Intra Community Customs procedures was abolished by the enactment of the Single European Act in 1993. This was five years before the Good Friday/Belfast Agreement. Between 1993 and 1998, the only restrictions on movement in Northern Ireland were imposed by the British Army. You may be able to correct this in any further article you plan to publish.